Now people's knees are not shaking yet, must loon.
When the tapering fading and reversal of this one sided unsustainable monetary policy, experience tells us that something big will happen. Get ready......
When we faced a similar situation the last round with subprime staring as our faces, we also didnt believe that something big was gonna happen.
Good or bad, i leave it to your imagination.
But i rather not take my chances on the bull side for now....
Maybe later but not yet.
Let the knees shake and the teeth clatter....
In the meantime, huat ah!
I agree with you. The next coming one is going to be big, bigger than the one in 2008.
haha 2% u really believe? let me use a simple heartlander daily basket - 2 coffees, 2 slices of bread, 1 portion kaya, 1 fishball noodles, 1 cai png, 1 fruit, 1 return mrt ride.
jus for coffee, 5 yrs ago mayb 80-90c but now I thk min $1. dun even need to go into other necessities like utilities, groceries, Telco, GP visits and on and on...
Why you use my example without asking me?
Tapering starts next Wed. CountdownI agree with you. The next coming one is going to be big, bigger than the one in 2008.
Tapering starts next Wed. Countdown
Any website link to the news?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/
Its not confirm but seems Bernanke cannot tahan anymore n will taper
Edited by Felipe, 14 September 2013 - 06:27 PM.
The more PM Lee tries to reassure the market everthing is ok and the more anti debt measures MAS put in weeks after weeks, the more worried I get. There is a lot more debt in the system now. Not sure if I should liquidate more of my holdings.
Heh heh heh....
Its ok dont worry
We are bullet proof.
Everyone else can crash and burn , we will not be affected.
If not much loan then can keep.The more PM Lee tries to reassure the market everthing is ok and the more anti debt measures MAS put in weeks after weeks, the more worried I get. There is a lot more debt in the system now. Not sure if I should liquidate more of my holdings.
The more PM Lee tries to reassure the market everthing is ok and the more anti debt measures MAS put in weeks after weeks, the more worried I get. There is a lot more debt in the system now. Not sure if I should liquidate more of my holdings.
Actually the more measures MAS put, you should get less worry as that would reduce the impact should economic crisis were to happen. I mean if MAS did not out in so many measures, what do you think will be the price of property now? The only thing that is not good is because to me MAS will always be 1 step slower than market as market forces changes very fast. I mean to implement something takes time, and by the time it is implemented, it will already be so far slow behind.
Edited by Yewheng, 14 September 2013 - 07:50 PM.
Just a matter of time. Now is see who has timing right. Last person at the party will be left with all the mess.Can try
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/
Its not confirm but seems Bernanke cannot tahan anymore n will taper
We are openActually the more measures MAS put, you should get less worry as that would reduce the impact should economic crisis were to happen. I mean if MAS did not out in so many measures l, what do you think will be the price of property now? The only thing that is not good is because to me MAS will always be 1 step slower than market as market forces changes very fast, but to implement something takes time, and by the time it is implemented, it will already be so far slow behind.
We are open
legseconomy, no matter what you do, the reduction to external factors is limited. Still will be affected jia lat jia lat one. You just watch.
Thats what I feel also. But at least MAS is doing something about it.
Actually the more measures MAS put, you should get less worry as that would reduce the impact should economic crisis were to happen. I mean if MAS did not out in so many measures, what do you think will be the price of property now? The only thing that is not good is because to me MAS will always be 1 step slower than market as market forces changes very fast. I mean to implement something takes time, and by the time it is implemented, it will already be so far slow behind.
I am worried because I think they are behind the curve and are now trying to catch up, hence the supposedly new permanent measures (debt service ratio and cap on unsecured credit) in the last 6 months or so....
I am worried because I think they are behind the curve and are now trying to catch up, hence the supposedly new permanent measures (debt service ratio and cap on unsecured credit) in the last 6 months or so....
That is why I keep saying no matter what they do, they will always be 1 step behind market forces one..
Heh heh heh....
Its ok dont worry
We are bullet proof.
Everyone else can crash and burn , we will not be affected.
eh u shaddap lah..i know u waiting for fire sale.......
ssssh hor, me too......
eh u shaddap lah..i know u waiting for fire sale.......
ssssh hor, me too......
I got no money, fire sale also no use.
Economy up also no impact.
Crash also doesnt bother me.
Everyday i just eat my curry bun from the HdB bakery.
Drink soya bean milk from hawker center.
One day one day pass.....
Its ok.
I got no money, fire sale also no use.
Economy up also no impact.
Crash also doesnt bother me.
Everyday i just eat my curry bun from the HdB bakery.
Drink soya bean milk from hawker center.
One day one day pass.....
Its ok.
KNN you waiting to buy Ron's house right? So that you can fly and land and park your helicopter right?
KNN you waiting to buy Ron's house right? So that you can fly and land and park your helicopter right?
I cant afford to be your neighbor lah......
Rental softening and the higher interest rate is e perfect storm at the door step already. Those who buy few years back also cannot sell due to the ssd. So caught in a tight position. Sell now also cannot due to ssd,sell later also scare cannot sell and rent. Those with property still under construction even worse with their money stuck with no returns.
Heh heh heh....
Its ok dont worry
We are bullet proof.
Everyone else can crash and burn , we will not be affected.
Based on last 20 years history....
borrower or lender (lack of regulation on unsecured loans)
in hk movie we always see when a gambler lost all his capital, magically a good friend will come and lend him money ...
similarly lehman brother toxic bond
yes, no one pointing a gun to the greedy people to buy these bond but selling the toxic bond aggressively is as guilty
Edited by Wt_know, 15 September 2013 - 11:45 AM.
who is more guilty?
borrower or lender (lack of regulation on unsecured loans)
in hk movie we always see when a gambler lost all his capital, magically a good friend will come and lend him money ...
similarly lehman brother toxic bond
yes, no one pointing a gun to the greedy people to buy these bond but selling the toxic bond aggressively is as guilty
Who is more guilty?
Those who are in debt will say the lender is more guilty (so many cases already with the casinos)
Those who are no in debt will say the borrower is guilty (so many here who are oon oon chiak bee hoon)
So which side do we want to be?
Do we want to be told whether we can do this or that?
Can we take responsibility of our own finances?
Those who buy a car priced more than their half year salary obviously cant unless got cash behind pahpah
*stirring*
Edited by Throttle2, 15 September 2013 - 11:58 AM.
Mine is one year salary and already got people say I siao.
That's why I always had no choice but to buy second hand cars... Cos my salary only can afford second hand cars...
2nd hand Porsche, Merc, BmwWah! Your standard so high ah... Half year salary...
Mine is one year salary and already got people say I siao.
That's why I always had no choice but to buy second hand cars... Cos my salary only can afford second hand cars...
home for stay = 5 year salary
property for investment = depends on rental yield and potential capital appreciation ... no risk no gain
a $250K mid level conti selling like roti prata
a $1.25M 99LH condo pigeon hole selling like hot cake
means singaporean salary is smelly smelly $250K per annum ... huat ah !!!
Wah! Your standard so high ah... Half year salary...
Mine is one year salary and already got people say I siao.
That's why I always had no choice but to buy second hand cars... Cos my salary only can afford second hand cars...
Edited by Wt_know, 15 September 2013 - 08:21 PM.
Summers withdraws from race to succeed Bernanke at Fed
Edited by Goldbug, 16 September 2013 - 09:23 AM.
http://www.straitsti...ke-fed-20130916
Summers withdraws from race to succeed Bernanke at Fed
buy buy buy stocks! dont say i never say!
spore property no $2000psft no sell ... huat ah!!!
buy buy buy stocks! dont say i never say!
Edited by Wt_know, 16 September 2013 - 09:46 AM.
why? QE 4, 5 ,6 coming?
spore property no $2000psft no sell ... huat ah!!!
combo of yellen likely new Fed head, DJIA & SPX technicals not overbought short term. mthly SPX chart's RSI hasnt hit d falling resistance line yet, means higher prices soon IMO before a solid fall. Big crash is def coming it cld mths before any action so meanwhile its bullish until then. My view is strictly macro, doesnt apply to insider trading by SGX penny ctrs lol
Im a keynesian fan so this applies.
Edited by Duckduck, 16 September 2013 - 09:58 AM.
http://www.straitsti...ke-fed-20130916
Summers withdraws from race to succeed Bernanke at Fed
http://www.businessi...thdrawal-2013-9
Expect USD to further weaken... so it is even not a good time to look into currency that is in USD denominated.
http://www.businessi...thdrawal-2013-9
Expect USD to further weaken... so it is even not a good time to look into currency that is in USD denominated.
just beware thats US economy is recovering so US bond yields r rising so b careful on USD pullbacks. they wont print $ forever imo as theyve talked abt scaling down QE n eventually cancellation of ZIRP later on.
Edited by Duckduck, 16 September 2013 - 10:19 AM.
just beware thats US economy is recovering so US bond yields r rising so b careful on USD pullbacks. they wont print $ forever imo as theyve talked abt scaling down QE n eventually cancellation of ZIRP later on.
i'm puzzled how do they pay the bill if they don't print money?
they still print
pre Lehman...
Fed lend the money to the US government
US treasury floats the bonds to be sold in the mkts
post Lehman
Fed lend the money to the US government
US treasury floats the bonds and the Fed buys the bonds
just beware thats US economy is recovering so US bond yields r rising so b careful on USD pullbacks. they wont print $ forever imo as theyve talked abt scaling down QE n eventually cancellation of ZIRP later on.
Ya as if so easy can just pull back, you know if pull back what will happen ?? The whole process will picia lobang, and it will have a domino effect. I mean the whole world now too rely on $ printing and want more, if reduce, the impact will sure be felt and the propaganda of US is recovering is just government do some tweak in how it derive and calculation does not reflect the true reflection on what is actually happening but just wanted to show the good figures so the world still have confidence in them, but sooner or later the picia will sure lobang.
Edited by Yewheng, 16 September 2013 - 10:39 AM.
Ya as if so easy can just pull back, you know if pull back what will happen ?? The whole process will picia lobang, and it will have a domino effect. I mean the whole world now too rely on $ printing and want more, if reduce, the impact will sure be felt and the propaganda of US is recovering is just government do some tweak in how it derive and calculation does not reflect the true reflection on what is actually happening but just wanted to show the good figures so the world still have confidence in them, but sooner or later the picia will sure lobang.
isn't everybody doing the same thing
it's just a matter of who got more chips to call whose bluff
isn't everybody doing the same thing
it's just a matter of who got more chips to call whose bluff
Ya..
sooner or later the picia will sure lobang.
yup i oso duno when will happen. im not into prediction as im not fortune teller. I just respect fibonacci #s & technicals, as well as macro stuff like Fed chair appts, war etc.
I only worried for my bto
Edited by Staff69, 16 September 2013 - 10:56 AM.
given the same situation, I think there will be chaos in India and China
So someone say tuesday will increase interest rate and all will burn in hell...........so now no?
last 30 days alot drama,
won't know until the last minute
considering that US citizens have fire arms, US government has done a pretty good job in keeping every one in line despite high unemployment rate, and manipulating the financial to keep themselves a float
given the same situation, I think there will be chaos in India and China
US right to own guns have been ard a century plus its a huge country so ethnic n racial segregation is present n tolerated, unlike SG where we need to garmen to set ethnic HDB quota coz we're like sardine all squeeze together.
india has rapists, china has body parts traffickers lol
US right to own guns have been ard a century plus its a huge country so ethnic n racial segregation is present n tolerated, unlike SG where we need to garmen to set ethnic HDB quota coz we're like sardine all squeeze together.
india has rapists, china has body parts traffickers lol
you think an unemployed american worker lives a better life collecting welfare, or a PRC who works 12 hours in the factory everyday?
you think an unemployed american worker lives a better life collecting welfare, or a PRC who works 12 hours in the factory everyday?
considering d amt of drugs they take n street gangs everywhere, i duno which is better lol.
Wah! Your standard so high ah... Half year salary...
Mine is one year salary and already got people say I siao.
That's why I always had no choice but to buy second hand cars... Cos my salary only can afford second hand cars...
Be os you got cash behind mah......
Two years salary alsonoproblem
Be os you got cash behind mah......
Two years salary alsonoproblem
LJ lah, what cash behind? Open my ass and cash come out ah?
So someone say tuesday will increase interest rate and all will burn in hell...........so now no?
I only worried for my bto
as long as your bto is for your own stay and not investment...bochap lah..go up/down still stay there ya?
only concern is to keep the job & income coming in.
as long as your bto is for your own stay and not investment...bochap lah..go up/down still stay there ya?
only concern is to keep the job & income coming in.
That is the problem with most of us.
Without the job and income, how long can we survive?
I call this "hand to mouth" living.
A never-ending cycle that is difficult to break out of, a kind of modern slavery.
We should all try to cut down on spending and start saving more than we spend.
That means, save 70% of salary, spend 30%.
Fark the sports car, fark the big house, fark all that unnecessary s--t that you don't need.
The problem with us Singaporeans is that we are all too caught up with spending future money, wanting bigger better and more expensive stuff that we can barely afford. And by afford, I don't mean installments.
But I try to do it without the "hao lian-ness"
That is the problem with most of us.
Without the job and income, how long can we survive?
I call this "hand to mouth" living.
A never-ending cycle that is difficult to break out of, a kind of modern slavery.
We should all try to cut down on spending and start saving more than we spend.
That means, save 70% of salary, spend 30%.
Fark the sports car, fark the big house, fark all that unnecessary s--t that you don't need.
The problem with us Singaporeans is that we are all too caught up with spending future money, wanting bigger better and more expensive stuff that we can barely afford. And by afford, I don't mean installments.
Best lah, brother!
I where got haolian? People read wrongly i bohpian.
LJ lah, what cash behind? Open my ass and cash come out ah?
Wah, so steady ah.....
No matter how i try , no cash come out from my ass leh.
Your kungfu must teach me ok?
Wah, so steady ah.....
No matter how i try , no cash come out from my ass leh.
Your kungfu must teach me ok?
That one must ask DW and P
I am but a regular joe who tries his best, not rich, not poor, but comfortable.
one thing about hdb.. so far very few get chased out and left homeless..still got MP to kau peh to
but can't say the same for condos..
my personal rule of thumb is to survive without income for at least a year with the same spending
but of course, if i really kenna pok, those spending will be cut to stretch further..till i find another one.
yup, agreed with u totally. no big head better don't wear a big hat..applies to all of us.
one thing about hdb.. so far very few get chased out and left homeless..still got MP to kau peh to
but can't say the same for condos..
my personal rule of thumb is to survive without income for at least a year with the same spending
but of course, if i really kenna pok, those spending will be cut to stretch further..till i find another one.
Wah you also steady lah!
That is the problem with most of us.
Without the job and income, how long can we survive?
I call this "hand to mouth" living.
A never-ending cycle that is difficult to break out of, a kind of modern slavery.
We should all try to cut down on spending and start saving more than we spend.
That means, save 70% of salary, spend 30%.
Fark the sports car, fark the big house, fark all that unnecessary s--t that you don't need.
The problem with us Singaporeans is that we are all too caught up with spending future money, wanting bigger better and more expensive stuff that we can barely afford. And by afford, I don't mean installments.
someone tell me "money velocity" isnt slowing down in SG... its not that we're making little, its coz asset prices have run way ahead of fundamentals until we actually feel poor even tho we havent lost our jobs. Asset = equity+liability... IMO d liability gone up too much hence d 100% HH debt to equity...
My own formula: sentiment+fundamental = asset price. Tell me where sentiment is right now...
If d banks decide to keep pushing up valuations to increase equity values, its d greatest sin they'll to consumers as come a big crash, these same bankers will b reducing valuations faster tahn u can spell v-a-l-u-a... we dont have d HDB resale flat undersupply situation of 2008 anymore...
Edited by Duckduck, 16 September 2013 - 10:04 PM.
Velocity of money has been on the rise so much so until what was excessive is now normal.someone tell me "money velocity" isnt slowing down in SG... its not that we're making little, its coz asset prices have run way ahead of fundamentals until we actually feel poor even tho we havent lost our jobs. Asset = equity+liability... IMO d liability gone up too much hence d 100% HH debt to equity...
My own formula: sentiment+fundamental = asset price. Tell me where sentiment is right now...
If d banks decide to keep pushing up valuations to increase equity values, its d greatest sin they'll to consumers as come a big crash, these same bankers will b reducing valuations faster tahn u can spell v-a-l-u-a... we dont have d HDB resale flat undersupply situation of 2008 anymore...
So when the reversal happens, its clear what result it would bring.
Its whether the reversal will happen fast and furious or whether it will happen slow and steady.
Regardless, it will happen. So get ready and prepare for 3%pa - 5%pa type loans in the next few years.
Like the story of the ant and the grasshopper. Dont wait. Buffer up now.
Sigh
???????????????????????
I have been waiting since 2008 for Ardmore Park to come down to $800 psf....
Sigh
???????????????????????
Who knows?
Never say never.....
But when it is $800psf, i also wont buy.
Becos the others would be much cheaper and much nicer and wont bump into so many people i know.
I have been waiting since 2008 for Ardmore Park to come down to $800 psf....
Sigh
???????????????????????
xiao lah i was offered bt 1800psf for a split second in early 09, didnt bite n it was gone superfast... that was d bottom call offer for ardmore park then.
even suites only 2-3 units went below 1500psf... i was trying really hard to close d deal but didnt happen...
Edited by Duckduck, 16 September 2013 - 11:22 PM.
Edited by Yewheng, 16 September 2013 - 11:20 PM.
So after much discussion, now you all know why too much $ printing does not help any situation but to only delay the problem. In fact because of inflation it squeeze even more middle income earners out, those low income earners worst...
every bull mkt is different. last 4yrs was a bull mkt mkt n prob is still on until it shows technical breakdown.
below every bull mkt, there were problems, but problems dont surface until d mkt decides to realize it, thats y a big crash has happened every decade... will this time b differnt?
every bull mkt is different. last 4yrs was a bull mkt mkt n prob is still on until it shows technical breakdown.
below every bull mkt, there were problems, but problems dont surface until d mkt decides to realize it, thats y a big crash has happened every decade... will this time b differnt?
No difference, only thing is when it crash, USA cannot use the same method of printing $ anymore. As it has been used, and the world will not buy it anymore. It will be a game changer where such a world richest nation in the world in the past is destroyed by massive currency printing.
No difference, only thing is when it crash, USA cannot use the same method of printing $ anymore. As it has been used, and the world will not buy it anymore. It will be a game changer where such a world richest nation in the world in the past is destroyed by massive currency printing.
most likely d next crash will asian IMO... china, japan... either of those putus we all putus together... lets see..
most likely d next crash will asian IMO... china, japan... either of those putus we all putus together... lets see..
asian currency wont toh... all parking their money in asia alr
asian currency wont toh... all parking their money in asia alr
Err.. did u miss d huge aussie n ruppee n rupiah crash recently?
how everyone excited boh... to make formal announcement
aiyo... where got problem.. COE go up again..
SC and SG PR ... $$ fills the bank :P
aiyo... where got problem.. COE go up again..
SC and SG PR ... $$ fills the bank :P
Good to hear so many still willing to put $ here despite weakening SGD. Via STI can already see capital outflow...
Whose smart idea to curb?now car prices new/old are even higher?knna simple supply and demand also dun know and all want fat salary!aiyo... where got problem.. COE go up again..
SC and SG PR ... $$ fills the bank :P
If we are not at risk,then gaverment will not put curb on property,cars and who knows what come next.This I feel is to protect the banks so there will be less bad debts .in the event cannot pay,force sale still got some cash and not negative equity as like before.They learn their lesson so dun believe financial prudent is for us!jus my 2cts .....
Sort of help to protect Singapore Financial system and also people like us. I mean it indirectly does affect people like us who is looking to buy property and cars.
But it is something weird that government need to come up with so many measures just to stop banks from being too loose in $ lending. So what does this means??
It simply means banks don't care whether people can afford to make repayment or not, all they want is to make $ the fastest and grow the fastest, the rest talk later.
So I think the whole financial system still had not learn the lesson on year 2008 crisis, banks and other financial institutions are too busy trying to earn as much profit as possible and neglect on fundamentals
So in a way government step in is good, but like I said, government always 1 step too slow to the market.
Edited by Yewheng, 18 September 2013 - 08:38 PM.
Edited by Yewheng, 18 September 2013 - 09:18 PM.
point no 1 & 2 is the MOST LETHAL ...
1. The advantages of market domination
The property developer industry is an oligopoly. It is dominated by a few big players which are often large conglomerates.
The entry barrier for new players in this industry is exceptionally high. With limited supply and high cost of land, it is not easy for small developers to raise sufficient funds or obtain financing from the bank. They also cannot compete with the big guys in terms of branding and their track record in past projects.
Bigger players have stronger financial muscle to build their own land bank. They can drive construction of projects in time to capture a booming market. They enjoy the benefits of economies of scale or cost leadership from a large number of ongoing projects. They have a handsome budget for marketing and for leverage to hire a good marketing agent. They have enough cash reserves to hedge against poor sales during bad times.
It is therefore not surprising to see a high percentage of private housing projects all supplied by the top few developers. The advantages of market domination allow them to set their list prices at the highest possible level and to reap a huge profit.
2. Collaboration among big players
The big players have good connections amongst themselves to make the most of a mutually beneficial partnership. They can collaborate with each other by forming joint ventures to bid for land parcels, to secure borrowings from banks, or to diversify their investment.
Among the top property developers, they can seek consensus and alignment on many decisions, for instance:
� When to launch or re-launch in a quiet or recovering market;
� Which type of projects to launch in different locations; and
� What projects to hold back to avoid unnecessary competitions for similar projects.
When they are setting prices for a new launch, they don�t have to make reference to the average transacted prices of existing developments in the same district. They can benchmark against each other�s list prices in other districts in order to set their prices at a new high in a hot market.
Of course, no developer can move new properties off the shelves without the support of local banks to provide buyers the necessary financing. It is not uncommon to see developers tying up with a few banks to offer housing mortgage packages to buyers at the sales galleries.
In order to secure business from home buyers, banks work with their valuers to ensure that the valuation of the uncompleted property matches with the selling price, so that they can disburse the exact amount of housing loan required by the buyers.
3. Willing sellers, willing buyers
In the past few years, property developers have paid a high price for land parcels sold by the government or from en bloc sales. Likewise, the tight supply and spiraling costs of construction manpower and building materials have taken a toll on the bottom line of developers.
It is arguable that developers have no choice but to markup considerably to ensure their profitability, although how big a safety margin is reasonable is entirely up to their discretion. After all, if they don�t make hay while the sun shines, who can tell what will happen when market direction changes?
In the end, the matter boils down to market response and customer acceptance. Developers can�t sell new flats at future prices if buyers are unwillingly to pay a premium price.
It doesn�t matter whether the selling price is twenty or fifty percent higher than the most recent transacted price of a resale flat in the same area, so long as everyone believes that the market price will be even higher by the time the new flats are ready for occupation.
Believing in the future � that is the magic pill of getting buyers to pay future prices in a booming property market!
Edited by Wt_know, 18 September 2013 - 09:27 PM.
no tapering till 2015
http://www.bloomberg...before-fed.html
basically a non-issue, although bernanke mentioned tapering may start end this yr, is needed..
ok back to COE...chiong ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
no tapering till 2015
http://www.bloomberg...before-fed.html
Haha, just can't stop printing massive amount of $ lol. So how long more will the world start to lose confidence in USA?? Hmm..
Edited by Yewheng, 19 September 2013 - 07:21 AM.
Die?????one macdonald meal set would cost more now
Edited by Staff69, 19 September 2013 - 07:44 AM.
buy buy buy stocks! dont say i never say!
Ok it's time to take profits. Uptrend is intact until technical break down appears
Huat Ah.. all property owner *happy*
Interest rate stay low ( applicable to those that took fixed spread only) .... singapore GDP continue to grow and employment is tight...
Another 2 good years !
Edited by ShepherdPie, 19 September 2013 - 09:11 AM.
COE > short term $100k+, medium term $120k+, long term $150k+
Condo 99LH suburb > short term $1200psf, medium term $1500psf, long term $1800psf
DOW testing 16,000 liao .... HUAT AH !!!
Edited by Wt_know, 19 September 2013 - 09:20 AM.
No US tapering until 2015.
Huat Ah.. all property owner *happy*
Interest rate stay low ( applicable to those that took fixed spread only) .... singapore GDP continue to grow and employment is tight...
Another 2 good years !
It depends..
http://www.munknee.c...s-are-alarming/
I mean there are bonds that are going to mature, so what's next?? Will they reinvest in US treasury?? If no, what happen?? How will USA going to pay huge bills when they themselves already at the edge. Print $85 billion per month is not enough to pay off trillions dollar of bond mature. What about other expenses ?? So let's wait and see will China and other big players to continue print $ to buy up US treasury, if yes, then it would be a good 2 years, if not.. that spells the trouble.. or alarm..
http://www.treasury....aspx?data=yield
And what is worst is the maturity rate is at pathetic 0.13% for 1 year maturity. I mean it would be better off putting $ elsewhere but US treasury.
Edited by Yewheng, 19 September 2013 - 09:54 AM.
in theory, i agree with you
however, usa is the classic example of TOO BIG TO FAIL
if USA collapse the whole world & entire population will perish
china should do something. they are so sunk into the usa sinking hole
from ankle deep to knee deep now ...
it's unimaginable ... i think worst than 2012 fiction film ... if usa one day shout f**k it ... i'm going to reset my debt clock to ZERO (100% haircut)
Edited by Wt_know, 19 September 2013 - 09:41 AM.
yewheng,
in theory, i agree with you
however, usa is the classic example of TOO BIG TO FAIL
if USA collapse the whole world & entire population will perish
china should do something. they are so sunk into the usa sinking hole
from ankle deep to knee deep now ...
it's unimaginable ... i think worst than 2012 fiction film ... if usa one day shout f**k it ... i'm going to reset my debt clock to ZERO (100% haircut)
Ya, so that is the problem. So USA still so Yaya papaya?? They should be at the mercy of China, Japan and other big players that help to delay the big crash.
like titanic ... usa will say i die you all die together ... wahahaha
Edited by Wt_know, 19 September 2013 - 10:16 AM.
yes, usa is yaya papaya ... they are also pulling everyone nose to walk together
like titanic ... usa will say i die you all die together ... wahahaha
I don't think all will die together with USA, as China so big country, can produce a lot of stuff, Brazil, india, and so many country, without USA, economy will sure suffer for many years, but after that it will back to good years ahead then.
Edited by Yewheng, 19 September 2013 - 10:15 AM.
They need washington to svc the debtI don't think all will die together with USA, as China so big country, can produce a lot of stuff, Brazil, india, and so many country, without USA, economy will sure suffer for many years, but after that it will back to good years ahead then.
Luckily the guys never place their kuku bird as bet that the market will crash.....if not many eunuchs around
those that bet their watches that mkt will turn ... sure sibei sian now...
Chiong ahhh, i go part time property agent for next 2 yearsmusic continues until 2015
COE > short term $100k+, medium term $120k+, long term $150k+
Condo 99LH suburb > short term $1200psf, medium term $1500psf, long term $1800psf
DOW testing 16,000 liao .... HUAT AH !!!
Money must be share share one
Hahaha ok can i share u one, 90-10 thenOn lar I be your partner
Money must be share share one
Edited by Thaiyotakamli, 19 September 2013 - 05:05 PM.
Eh u no need do so much just help me open all the doorsOn lar....I only answer phone ...the rest u do
Then our partnership come to an end alreadyErr....I call centre only...dont go out field....hq
if Fed don't dare to taper means the economy is worst than what it is seen
if economy is recovering, taper should have kicked in liao
print $85 billions a month x 12 months x years = ?
even taper to $75B or $50B ... still printing billions per month
Edited by Wt_know, 20 September 2013 - 11:25 PM.
The Dow is on a lau sai streak like what I am leaving behind in the throne
SHOPPING time !!
Watching cnbc.. Dow seems like having a slight correction only leh..Is anyone watching NYSE from the toilet like I am doing now ?
The Dow is on a lau sai streak like what I am leaving behind in the throne
SHOPPING time !!
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I think I saw a man with solid gold rolex inside...........????????
Cannot be. He said no $500 psf, he no buy.
Watching cnbc.. Dow seems like having a slight correction only leh..
as long got 2% margin i happy liao.
i do guerilla warfare, not conduct operations desert storm type
Cannot be. He said no $500 psf, he no buy.
No cash now, lost $2.6mil over nite. Not buying anything liao.
Cannot retire already
Need to work again
Edited by Throttle2, 21 September 2013 - 08:48 PM.
Lost 2.6mil to your house right? Sell the house and get back 2.3mil after settling 16% ASSD..No cash now, lost $2.6mil over nite. Not buying anything liao.
Cannot retire already
Need to work again
Warren said US stocks reaching over valuation..
Lost 2.6mil to your house right? Sell the house and get back 2.3mil after settling 16% ASSD..
Warren said US stocks reaching over valuation..
No lah, $2.6mil cannot buy the house i want...
Is anyone watching NYSE from the toilet like I am doing now ?
The Dow is on a lau sai streak like what I am leaving behind in the throne
SHOPPING time !!
I thought continued printing is good for the stocks, equity and property market?
and it seems weird that gold don't chiong that much as previously thought to be..
To keep QE stable at the previous amount is actually, in effect, a form of tapering in itself.
Hence, everything will not chiong and we may well see economy downturn still.
My take is that US need to print more and more to sustain their spending debts.
To keep QE stable at the previous amount is actually, in effect, a form of tapering in itself.
Hence, everything will not chiong and we may well see economy downturn still.
With the recent announcement to delay tapering of QE, I see it as the last opportunity/time buffer to cash out all my stocks holdings before they come crashing down.
It will happen.
With the recent announcement to delay tapering of QE, I see it as the last opportunity/time buffer to cash out all my stocks holdings before they come crashing down.
It will happen.
when they stop QE, then crash will happen.
sep 08 till now sep 13 ... 5 years liao still going strong
usa debt ceiling, euro debt crisis, greece default, spain/italy high unemployment, cyprus bank run, etc
all problems come and go ... music continues ... the can is kicked down the road ... money continues to roll
Been hearing this downturn and crash 2 years liao. Still don't see anything.
Edited by Wt_know, 22 September 2013 - 03:56 PM.
When crash happen everyone wont be able to predict, these kinds of crisis people anticipate already so thats why wont crashBeen hearing this downturn and crash 2 years liao. Still don't see anything.
U must be caught in surprise then called crash
Edited by Thaiyotakamli, 22 September 2013 - 04:01 PM.
when everyone is happy happy cheoing crash come fast and furious
When crash happen everyone wont be able to predict, these kinds of crisis people anticipate already so thats why wont crash
U must be caught in surprise then called crash
When crash happen everyone wont be able to predict, these kinds of crisis people anticipate already so thats why wont crash
U must be caught in surprise then called crash
passed on a few opportunities in the past 2 yrs already.. knn..wait for it to crash but didn't crash..
sekali take the plunge then it really crash.. don't have the guts to play this game...
Cashactually, the main question is, what should a person be holding in order to survive (or even emerge without harm) after the crash.. property, equities, stocks, gold, cash (s$ or what)..
Cos when crash property, stocks, equities all drop value
Like what Mr Throttle said, U got The Cash, U got The Power
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