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Honda Vezel part 80

  • 24 August 2015 - 02:48 PM
    Fitvip

    -minimum 50% loan or there's a penalty (standard across PIs)

    When I bought mine without loan, there was no penalty.

    Recently my relative bought a vezel without loan too with no�penalty!


  • 24 August 2015 - 04:27 PM
    mail_lum

    When I bought mine without loan, there was no penalty.

    Recently my relative bought a vezel without loan too with no�penalty!

    Which PI did your relative buy from that doesn't impose penalty for no loan?

    I have another question... i remember there's a way to tell whether a PI is a Direct Importer or not... some invoice or bill thing.. what is it called? I want to double check that cos every PI will claim they are Direct Importer, which cannot be lah!


  • 24 August 2015 - 04:35 PM
    Ivan_06


    Hi
    I still got a black vezel in hand now is in the showroom but waiting for vitas test.
    Small loan for short period no problem. Delivery around Oct.
    Selling at $110800.

    If anyone interested can call me 96994911.

    Thank you.


    Then isn't this demo set? All customers go in and seat seat, touch touch. Becomes second hand cat liao.

    Have to add discount le.
  • 24 August 2015 - 05:06 PM
    Melvincyc

    Which PI did your relative buy from that doesn't impose penalty for no loan?

    I have another question... i remember there's a way to tell whether a PI is a Direct Importer or not... some invoice or bill thing.. what is it called? I want to double check that cos every PI will claim they are Direct Importer, which cannot be lah!

    According to what I heard, less than a handful are direct importer. The rest just take stock from the direct importers.

    If direct importers, sure have shipping documents to show you.


  • 24 August 2015 - 06:41 PM
    Nichi

    If minimum 50% loan. I dont buy already haha.
    3mth delivery ok as long as my wife gets to drive her mazda.

    can dont want loan.. they will just ask you to top up abit more


  • 24 August 2015 - 07:13 PM
    Throttle2


    Hi
    I still got a black vezel in hand now is in the showroom but waiting for vitas test.
    Small loan for short period no problem. Delivery around Oct.
    Selling at $110800.

    If anyone interested can call me 96994911.

    Thank you.


    Ok good, which PI, if not far, i go and view this weekend with my checkbook
    What color leather seats?
    What freebies?
    Can trade in?

    Thanks?
  • 24 August 2015 - 09:23 PM
    LYC

    When I bought mine without loan, there was no penalty.

    Recently my relative bought a vezel without loan too with no�penalty!

    I also bought mine without any loan penalty. But still waiting for the dly since Apr...


  • 24 August 2015 - 10:16 PM
    EricLim_159335

    Wah so long wait. When are you suppose to get it? Your contract states wat?�

    I also bought mine without any loan penalty. But still waiting for the dly since Apr...


  • 24 August 2015 - 11:04 PM
    lach90

    When I bought mine without loan, there was no penalty.

    Recently my relative bought a vezel without loan too with no�penalty!

    Well maybe there really are PIs with no penalty that I missed out. However I didn't encounter any after searching for more than a month.

    I did my math and decided to go for the loan and terminate it after awhile, will still save $1k+ compared to paying penalty for not taking loan.�


  • 24 August 2015 - 11:31 PM
    Spiritual-Zen

    Suddenly like a lot if newbies popped out in this thread...

    Sorry to say but when i see a newbie post about how good a pi is, i just cant help but ponder...

    simple.. is because the Vezel generated alot of interest and only PI brings in.. so potential buyers find this place as the only option to gather infos b4 making the hard decision to sign n book one.

    If the official agent were to bring in.. then you won't see so many newbies here.. why would they come here if the official trusted agent is also offering the same Vezel.. I for one would hv gone there.. further more.. there's lotsa first timer dealing wif PI and worried sick.. so to gain confident on which PI to book.. they came here.. i'm one of them.. but hv been a silent reader till recent that i registered here to share.

    I've booked 1 and delivery in dec/jan after gaining much confident. someone, a senior, even challenge me to post and show the contract paper that I signed to prove that I'm a buyer and not a PI. lol
  • 25 August 2015 - 02:34 PM
    chinpokomon

    Hi All, Sometime ago I posted a website link from a Japan car exporter. They claim some PI in Singapore also buy through them. I have also made a booking with them for a Vezel S. Factory price for Vezel S I am told is Y1,750,000 which includes shipping and insurance (this is OMV) but I had to pay higher as you pay dealer price. I believe all PI have to pay dealer price. It is simple impossible as a PI or individual to buy direct from factory as it will damage Honda's dealer network. So Honda factory only sells direct to their authorized dealers who have to sell at an agreed price range to PI or individual. So basically I am paying about Y2,400,000 but with the Yen gaining so much I forsee OMV shooting up 5% since last week.�

    Anyway, I am not doing this purely to save money but also to get a better understanding of the car market. As you all know dealing with PI and even AD can be a pain and the job they are doing is in IMHO not much value add to it. So I will keep you all posted on my journey of self import and all cost involved and see if it is worthwhile. I still need to secure COE which I am aiming at low 50's. My car should ship in 8 weeks I hope. We shall see.

    gd for u bro.

    i'm interested to follow ur updates!

    it will be quite a tiring process, but everyone will be enlightened by ur experience!

    do keep us informed!


  • 25 August 2015 - 02:35 PM
    mail_lum

    I think it's called "bill landing"?

    I agree, that's why I didn't go with the no-penalty PI, because their price is even higher than if I had paid penalty.

    Thing is usually the price we see are for those that take loan, so the feeling is that there is an extra price increase (hence "penalty") for not taking loan, as opposed to an advertised price then getting a discount for taking loan/no price increase for no loan. Don't know if I make sense here, but the "feeling" is different, haha. The price you pay may end up being the same, but for me, I do feel penalized and that it's unfair.

    Thanks, Lancer6238 and Tkseah.


  • 25 August 2015 - 02:45 PM
    Throttle2

    Hi
    I am HM�Low from Tatco. The car now is at jalan kayu.
    You can choose the leather seat color.
    Come with S/R, L/S, DVD Player, Reverser Camera.
    Yes we do trade in also.
    Please give me a call b4 u coming 96994911 as this is the last unit.
    The next shipment will be around Oct. Delivery time will be around Dec.

    Thank!


    I will contact you if i go down this weekend. Thanks
  • 25 August 2015 - 02:53 PM
    HayateEin

    Hi Guys,

    I want to check if it is normal for PI to put your car in the showroom for customer viewing while waiting for vitas? I realise I had my car being put in the showroom without our permission. Is it normal practice?


  • 25 August 2015 - 03:10 PM
    whiteangelcsh

    Hi Guys,

    I want to check if it is normal for PI to put your car in the showroom for customer viewing while waiting for vitas? I realise I had my car being put in the showroom without our permission. Is it normal practice?

    Wah! Cannot lah. U better go f ur PI. It's ur car. After all the touching, sitting, slamming... Zzzzzz
  • 25 August 2015 - 03:19 PM
    WindChaser

    Hi All, Sometime ago I posted a website link from a Japan car exporter. They claim some PI in Singapore also buy through them. I have also made a booking with them for a Vezel S. Factory price for Vezel S I am told is Y1,750,000 which includes shipping and insurance (this is OMV) but I had to pay higher as you pay dealer price. I believe all PI have to pay dealer price. It is simple impossible as a PI or individual to buy direct from factory as it will damage Honda's dealer network. So Honda factory only sells direct to their authorized dealers who have to sell at an agreed price range to PI or individual. So basically I am paying about Y2,400,000 but with the Yen gaining so much I forsee OMV shooting up 5% since last week.�

    Anyway, I am not doing this purely to save money but also to get a better understanding of the car market. As you all know dealing with PI and even AD can be a pain and the job they are doing is in IMHO not much value add to it. So I will keep you all posted on my journey of self import and all cost involved and see if it is worthwhile. I still need to secure COE which I am aiming at low 50's. My car should ship in 8 weeks I hope. We shall see.

    --------------------------------------------

    Well done.. finally some does something which I have been wanting to do but do not have the balls yet to do it. Do keep us posted on the progress/update. �*Good luck*


    Edited by WindChaser, 25 August 2015 - 03:20 PM.

  • 25 August 2015 - 04:03 PM
    Zxcvb

    Hi All, Sometime ago I posted a website link from a Japan car exporter. They claim some PI in Singapore also buy through them. I have also made a booking with them for a Vezel S. Factory price for Vezel S I am told is Y1,750,000 which includes shipping and insurance (this is OMV) but I had to pay higher as you pay dealer price. I believe all PI have to pay dealer price. It is simple impossible as a PI or individual to buy direct from factory as it will damage Honda's dealer network. So Honda factory only sells direct to their authorized dealers who have to sell at an agreed price range to PI or individual. So basically I am paying about Y2,400,000 but with the Yen gaining so much I forsee OMV shooting up 5% since last week.�

    Anyway, I am not doing this purely to save money but also to get a better understanding of the car market. As you all know dealing with PI and even AD can be a pain and the job they are doing is in IMHO not much value add to it. So I will keep you all posted on my journey of self import and all cost involved and see if it is worthwhile. I still need to secure COE which I am aiming at low 50's. My car should ship in 8 weeks I hope. We shall see.

    --------------------------------------------

    Well done.. finally some does something which I have been wanting to do but do not have the balls yet to do it. Do keep us posted on the progress/update. �*Good luck*

    Majority buyers will not go DIY because a lot of hassles, no time, working at office 9-5, no experience in dealing with car stuff, no network of friends in automotive industry and high chance of hitting problems along the way (which requite extra effort, time and energy again). Yes, anyone can just use the internet to do research and all. But base on my experience, no matter how much I research (travel, products, gadgets, home fix), things always don't turn out the way it would or should be. Lots of trial and error and remedy.

    Unless of course I'm retired, so rich don't have to work, collect rental on properties and a keen interest to experience bringing the car myself.


  • 25 August 2015 - 05:15 PM
    Jumpmanz

    Hi All, Sometime ago I posted a website link from a Japan car exporter. They claim some PI in Singapore also buy through them. I have also made a booking with them for a Vezel S. Factory price for Vezel S I am told is Y1,750,000 which includes shipping and insurance (this is OMV) but I had to pay higher as you pay dealer price. I believe all PI have to pay dealer price. It is simple impossible as a PI or individual to buy direct from factory as it will damage Honda's dealer network. So Honda factory only sells direct to their authorized dealers who have to sell at an agreed price range to PI or individual. So basically I am paying about Y2,400,000 but with the Yen gaining so much I forsee OMV shooting up 5% since last week.�

    Anyway, I am not doing this purely to save money but also to get a better understanding of the car market. As you all know dealing with PI and even AD can be a pain and the job they are doing is in IMHO not much value add to it. So I will keep you all posted on my journey of self import and all cost involved and see if it is worthwhile. I still need to secure COE which I am aiming at low 50's. My car should ship in 8 weeks I hope. We shall see.

    interested to follow your journey too.


  • 25 August 2015 - 05:46 PM
    Ivan_06

    Hi Guys,

    I want to check if it is normal for PI to put your car in the showroom for customer viewing while waiting for vitas? I realise I had my car being put in the showroom without our permission. Is it normal practice?


    Becomes demo set liao.... Used car.
  • 25 August 2015 - 07:10 PM
    Sean73

    Think no way you can get immediate delivery or within 2 weeks for this hot baby.
    Lucky if you can find one with shipment on the way.
    Good luck in your car search :)

    if your referring to those smaller players then yes, they do not have any stocks or maybe only a few units AT most.

    Most PI's doesn't have stocks because only a handful are direct importers and they get their stocks from third parties, recall's would be an issue in the future.

    And alot of PI's generally sell cars that they do not even have the stocks in the first place.

    Unless yours is a big and established player that have a ready stream of supplies EVERY Month then be prepared to wait like some others for their deliveries.�

    *Note* A number of PI's did not BID for their customers within the stipulated bids in the contract as the COE prices was high but eventually some did BID at the 8 BID which was much lower than the 6 BID stated.

    On the hind sight, lucky there was a dip in the COE price in July, if not those owners might never even not get their COE.

    For more information, you all could join this Facebook group which was set up by a bunch of Vezellians and not but any PI,SE or businessman.

    You can also join their meetup and see for yourself the real person instead of SE masquerading as customers singing their own company praise like no tomorrow.

    https://www.facebook...SGVezelHRVClub/


  • 25 August 2015 - 08:28 PM
    Bonjoey
    Alright Guys, I have finally signed on the dotted line!

    Delivery in Nov/Dec. Vezel S!

    Thank you all who have answered my queries thru the forum and PMs and also in the FB club. :D
  • 25 August 2015 - 08:49 PM
    Vinzntonic

    I still got an Issue,

    just found out my relative selling car.. got S and X model, but S model overpriced for me.. might have to forgo my dream of getting the S and down to X. reason i chose my relative, maybe cus familiar family.

    I know the terms of all the coe rebates etc been following here

    I just wanna know.. how does CEVS rebate work?? For e.g. if X is 10k rebate... where do i get the rebate??


  • 25 August 2015 - 09:11 PM
    Fitvip

    Which PI did your relative buy from that doesn't impose penalty for no loan?

    I have another question... i remember there's a way to tell whether a PI is a Direct Importer or not... some invoice or bill thing.. what is it called? I want to double check that cos every PI will claim they are Direct Importer, which cannot be lah!

    PM you.


  • 25 August 2015 - 09:37 PM
    Latio2005A

    If minimum 50% loan. I dont buy already haha.
    3mth delivery ok as long as my wife gets to drive her mazda.

    My friend signed two weeks with promise of 6 weeks delivery. The PI secured his COE at the first bid hence one hurdle down.

    No need loan, no penalty (after some bargaining). Colours, however, are limited o black or white. Price certainly cheaper that those quoted here.

    I no dealer, you know me.�


  • 25 August 2015 - 09:37 PM
    Saggice

    HRV also take so long? This car really hot. Must be the best selling model
    of 2015.


    Ya thats what kah motor says, too many ppl buying cars bah
  • 25 August 2015 - 09:38 PM
    rstopel

    Majority buyers will not go DIY because a lot of hassles, no time, working at office 9-5, no experience in dealing with car stuff, no network of friends in automotive industry and high chance of hitting problems along the way (which requite extra effort, time and energy again). Yes, anyone can just use the internet to do research and all. But base on my experience, no matter how much I research (travel, products, gadgets, home fix), things always don't turn out the way it would or should be. Lots of trial and error and remedy.

    Unless of course I'm retired, so rich don't have to work, collect rental on properties and a keen interest to experience bringing the car myself.

    Yeah, need to arrange transport from port and to LTA but heard paperwork at LTA not so troublesome.�

    No warranty but with Honda I have little doubt.

    I need to get IU and camara installed and I may even have to get the UV film installed.�

    I am running a Biz dealing with import from China so I am familiar with shipping but a Car is a different thing. Need to get a special handler for that.

    Anyway, good learning experience. Will keep you all up to date on each step.I might even consider selling the Vezel nearer to the registration date.�


  • 25 August 2015 - 09:39 PM
    Saggice

    Hi Guys,

    I want to check if it is normal for PI to put your car in the showroom for customer viewing while waiting for vitas? I realise I had my car being put in the showroom without our permission. Is it normal practice?


    Really a good question
    But i thought PI sure uses our cars as showroom cars, they always told and show around the showroom car to people and also said its being bought already.
  • 25 August 2015 - 09:39 PM
    trajet2b

    Majority buyers will not go DIY because a lot of hassles, no time, working at office 9-5, no experience in dealing with car stuff, no network of friends in automotive industry and high chance of hitting problems along the way (which requite extra effort, time and energy again). Yes, anyone can just use the internet to do research and all. But base on my experience, no matter how much I research (travel, products, gadgets, home fix), things always don't turn out the way it would or should be. Lots of trial and error and remedy.

    Unless of course I'm retired, so rich don't have to work, collect rental on properties and a keen interest to experience bringing the car myself.

    yes its a hassle.�

    Am sure his logistic clearing agent should be able to arrange for the necessary.

    Of course there are lots of charges involved as there are various processes that need to go through.

    Looking forward to hear from the original poster on his experience and i wish all the best and good luck.


  • 25 August 2015 - 09:46 PM
    Vantivetech

    I still got an Issue,

    just found out my relative selling car.. got S and X model, but S model overpriced for me.. might have to forgo my dream of getting the S and down to X. reason i chose my relative, maybe cus familiar family.

    I know the terms of all the coe rebates etc been following here

    I just wanna know.. how does CEVS rebate work?? For e.g. if X is 10k rebate... where do i get the rebate??

    if you only just found out you had a "relative" selling car, then I think you may not be too close with this "relative". I would advise against buying from relative to avoid conflict of interest when issues arise.


    Can anyone help me on this? thanks a lot

    if you are so paranoid about warranty by the workshop then to put your mind at ease, my recommendation is to use the Insurance company offered to you by the PI.

    this way, should anything arise, your fall back plan is always, "hey mr PI, this is what you offered :) so why should there be exclusions"


  • 25 August 2015 - 10:05 PM
    Vinzntonic

    if you only just found out you had a "relative" selling car, then I think you may not be too close with this "relative". I would advise against buying from relative to avoid conflict of interest when issues arise.


    if you are so paranoid about warranty by the workshop then to put your mind at ease, my recommendation is to use the Insurance company offered to you by the PI.

    this way, should anything arise, your fall back plan is always, "hey mr PI, this is what you offered :) so why should there be exclusions"

    Not close.. because belong's to my Late father's side.. so we only see each other once a year... and i don't really keep in touch.. my mum does more hence she referred me the contact.

    Anyway it's not the main question.

    CEVS rebate anybody can help?


  • 25 August 2015 - 10:13 PM
    Jackchancc
    Hi Vezelers,

    Great to know tat vezel had been gaining popular since it was first brought in by LP last year. Went to take a look n qouted >120k+ so decided to take a backseat till two weeks ago n signed on the dotted line, expected delivery Nov. Keep my fingers crossed n hope for the best.
    I guess it could be Honda most popular CUV replacement since it was introduction back on 1998 till EOL on 2006.
  • 25 August 2015 - 10:18 PM
    Credor


    Not close.. because belong's to my Late father's side.. so we only see each other once a year... and i don't really keep in touch.. my mum does more hence she referred me the contact.

    Anyway it's not the main question.

    CEVS rebate anybody can help?

    CEVS rebate...
    You already get it upfront as the dealer should have deduct it off from the car price or pass this saving to you by quoting a lower car price ( deduct off the cevs rebate)than it should be.
    But then.... You are "penalise" as the parf value is = (omv- cevs)/2 ... If you drive the car for 10 years.
    Well, this is my understanding... Hope didnt give you the wrong info...lol

    Edited by Credor, 25 August 2015 - 10:19 PM.

  • 25 August 2015 - 10:57 PM
    Vinzntonic

    CEVS rebate...
    You already get it upfront as the dealer should have deduct it off from the car price or pass this saving to you by quoting a lower car price ( deduct off the cevs rebate)than it should be.
    But then.... You are "penalise" as the parf value is = (omv- cevs)/2 ... If you drive the car for 10 years.
    Well, this is my understanding... Hope didnt give you the wrong info...lol

    Am aware about the parf value remains which is pathetic...

    so if to say the quoted value is 10k.. shld it be discounted from the total value? or discounted after downpayment??

    Depends on PI??


  • 25 August 2015 - 11:15 PM
    Credor


    Am aware about the parf value remains which is pathetic...

    so if to say the quoted value is 10k.. shld it be discounted from the total value? or discounted after downpayment??

    Depends on PI??


    Car price quoted to you is already after deducting off the CEVS value!
    Effectively, that is the car price to pay. :(
    That why, some bro did wonder if this rebate is or has been given to consumer or built into the profit of the PI/AD.
  • 25 August 2015 - 11:34 PM
    Vinzntonic

    Car price quoted to you is already after deducting off the CEVS value!
    Effectively, that is the car price to pay. :(
    That why, some bro did wonder if this rebate is or has been given to consumer or built into the profit of the PI/AD.

    So cannot be prices of Vezel X are at 109k after rebate right??


  • 26 August 2015 - 12:10 AM
    Andyngps


    So cannot be prices of Vezel X are at 109k after rebate right??


    Bro. Forget about the rebate. Its already built into the selling price. In fact if the selling price is fixed, you would rather want a lower rebate so as to have slightly higher value after 10 yrs..but seriously, its a pathetic figure. I would say its like almost as good as no paper value liao by then. Search back the historical posts in this thread... already quite a lot of discussion on this.

    Edited by Andyngps, 26 August 2015 - 12:11 AM.

  • 26 August 2015 - 01:27 AM
    Rationalexuberance

    Hi Vezelers,

    Great to know tat vezel had been gaining popular since it was first brought in by LP last year. Went to take a look n qouted >120k+ so decided to take a backseat till two weeks ago n signed on the dotted line, expected delivery Nov. Keep my fingers crossed n hope for the best.
    I guess it could be Honda most popular CUV replacement since it was introduction back on 1998 till EOL on 2006.

    what is LP? "long pia"

    how come LP brought it 1st?

    was it in june?

    june is saw it at AL wor


  • 26 August 2015 - 08:00 AM
    Dswm

    what is LP? "long pia"

    how come LP brought it 1st?

    was it in june?

    june is saw it at AL wor

    LP = Leco Prestige?


  • 26 August 2015 - 09:57 AM
    HayateEin

    Really a good question
    But i thought PI sure uses our cars as showroom cars, they always told and show around the showroom car to people and also said its being bought already.

    Yea, When I source around for my vezel, I realise most of the car I touch and sit in are sold already. especially those who said they don't have any more stocks left. I only realise my car being put in showroom when I ask for a casual inspection since the car just clear from port. Nonethelss, I complain to my SE and he has been helpful so far to move my car up to their MSCP. But I think it has been in showroom to let people touch for at least a week or so liao� :TT_TT:


  • 26 August 2015 - 10:05 AM
    MQX87511

    Yea, When I source around for my vezel, I realise most of the car I touch and sit in are sold already. especially those who said they don't have any more stocks left. I only realise my car being put in showroom when I ask for a casual inspection since the car just clear from port. Nonethelss, I complain to my SE and he has been helpful so far to move my car up to their MSCP. But I think it has been in showroom to let people touch for at least a week or so liao� :TT_TT:

    PI always like that lah, because they don't have budget to�buy dedicate�showroom car, they use customer sold car as show car couple of weeks, until next order car�come,so normally before you collected you baby, it already was�molested couple of weeks by visitors in showroom, :D


  • 26 August 2015 - 01:33 PM
    Saggice

    PI always like that lah, because they don't have budget to�buy dedicate�showroom car, they use customer sold car as show car couple of weeks, until next order car�come,so normally before you collected you baby, it already was�molested couple of weeks by visitors in showroom, :D


    I guess and it sounds like we cannot do anything abt it.
    Since those car don hv a number plate, you wont know anyway.

    Best thing is don think abt it and you will be happier.
    Same logic of having a girl friend. :)
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
  • 26 August 2015 - 02:05 PM
    Jackchancc

    what is LP? "long pia"

    how come LP brought it 1st?

    was it in june?

    june is saw it at AL wor

    Saw listed at sgcarmart by Leco only during that time, maybe ard June...

    did Autolink brought in first?

    I was comparing Juke, XV at that time...<2.0 car


  • 26 August 2015 - 02:10 PM
    Tolecnal

    I guess and it sounds like we cannot do anything abt it.
    Since those car don hv a number plate, you wont know anyway.

    Best thing is don think abt it and you will be happier.
    Same logic of having a girl friend. :)
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.

    Lol, now this sentence keeps echoing in my head after reading your post. :XD:


  • 26 August 2015 - 03:11 PM
    MQX87511

    I guess and it sounds like we cannot do anything abt it.
    Since those car don hv a number plate, you wont know anyway.

    Best thing is don think abt it and you will be happier.
    Same logic of having a girl friend. :)
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.
    Anyway so far i havent heard of any PI not delivering at all, its just sooner or later.

    And if you are trading in your current ride which already has the trade in value fixed, i guess it doesnt matter if you get ur new car abit later, the PI is losing, not you.

    wahlao, you computer got virus boh,

    same sentence repeated so many times :blink:


  • 26 August 2015 - 03:15 PM
    Andyngps


    if you only just found out you had a "relative" selling car, then I think you may not be too close with this "relative". I would advise against buying from relative to avoid conflict of interest when issues arise.


    if you are so paranoid about warranty by the workshop then to put your mind at ease, my recommendation is to use the Insurance company offered to you by the PI.

    this way, should anything arise, your fall back plan is always, "hey mr PI, this is what you offered :) so why should there be exclusions"


    Lol. The 3 jobs which may have the most hidden agendas/misrepresentations/black sheeps. Property agents, insurance agents and car agents...no offence to those in these professions as one can earn a lot!!
  • 26 August 2015 - 04:12 PM
    crazysiao

    Bro. Forget about the rebate. Its already built into the selling price. In fact if the selling price is fixed, you would rather want a lower rebate so as to have slightly higher value after 10 yrs..but seriously, its a pathetic figure. I would say its like almost as good as no paper value liao by then. Search back the historical posts in this thread... already quite a lot of discussion on this.

    ya.. I would rather PI tell me no cevs rebates... lol..


  • 26 August 2015 - 06:06 PM
    Andyngps


    ya.. I would rather PI tell me no cevs rebates... lol..


    I have friends who specifically look for cars without cevs rebate, and at the lowest price compared to other similar classes.
  • 26 August 2015 - 07:20 PM
    chinpokomon

    hey guys, I have an unused (brand new) leather key cover for the Honda remote key.

    sharing with anyone who might be interested.

    honda%20leather%201_1.jpg

    for more details, click

    http://www.mycarforu...d&product=94964

    thks!


    Edited by chinpokomon, 26 August 2015 - 07:24 PM.

  • 26 August 2015 - 10:29 PM
    Vinzntonic

    Lol. The 3 jobs which may have the most hidden agendas/misrepresentations/black sheeps. Property agents, insurance agents and car agents...no offence to those in these professions as one can earn a lot!!

    True about that.. but sometimes better to trust family over complete strangers right??

    I mean given a choice would you take the trusted way (not 100% trusted) or the unknowns..


  • 26 August 2015 - 10:35 PM
    Andyngps


    True about that.. but sometimes better to trust family over complete strangers right??

    I mean given a choice would you take the trusted way (not 100% trusted) or the unknowns..


    To answer that, i chose to buy from a friend who is a PI and he is the only car dealer I know....if i dunno anyone i prob got to ponder very hard...
  • 26 August 2015 - 10:41 PM
    OngGuoRong

    True about that.. but sometimes better to trust family over complete strangers right??

    I mean given a choice would you take the trusted way (not 100% trusted) or the unknowns..

    Can share the contact and which PI? Thanks.


  • 26 August 2015 - 10:45 PM
    Vinzntonic

    Can share the contact and which PI? Thanks.

    A few guys did msg me asking about sharing the contact...

    I haven't gone down to the showroom to see yet.. will talk to the SE aka my relative first..


  • 27 August 2015 - 10:18 AM
    Stock

    How is the comparison of this versus a jetta?�


  • 27 August 2015 - 02:22 PM
    7hm

    How is the comparison of this versus a jetta?�

    Weird choice of comparison, but okay...

    • Jetta is much faster, especially off the line. (1.4 turbo)
    • Jetta uses a seven-speed DSG which shifts faster with a bit of 'manual feel', Vezel uses a CVT.
    • Jetta is more spacious inside I would say.
    • Vezel is a SUV body with a more practical tailgate and more flexible load carrying configuration.
    • Jetta has the more classy and inoffensive interior with better material grades.
    • Vezel is a parallel imported car built for Japanese domestic market (JDM), Jetta is brought in by VCS.
    • Fuel economy-wise, both should have similar averages but depends on your driving habits.
    • Handling... not sure, but the Jetta is known for good comfort.
    • Jetta would probably be more refined.
    • Jetta would likely be a lot less reliable. Or, at least, the DSG will be problematic, if stories continue to be true.
    • Jetta has more technology onboard, I would think.

  • 27 August 2015 - 08:41 PM
    bb1314


    i sent an an enquiry to japan malaysia to check whether can purchase the HRV 7 inch headunit.. still waiting for their reply.

    also one of the Pi i went actually say if i want the original headunit they can help to bring in and the radio freq is ok as can add in a convertor to "convert".. my current jdm ride using the org headunit the radio freq is ok just that the number display is not correct.. e.g class 95 is display as 85..


    Did Honda Malaysia reply you?
  • 27 August 2015 - 09:51 PM
    LYC

    Wah so long wait. When are you suppose to get it? Your contract states wat?�

    �was agreed to deliver by mid jul latest. In the end...


  • 27 August 2015 - 10:04 PM
    Credor

    �was agreed to deliver by mid jul latest. In the end...


    So... What was their reply when you followed up on the delivery date?
    So when is the next expected delivery date?
  • 27 August 2015 - 10:23 PM
    Ivan_06

    <p>�Weird choice of comparison, but okay...�

    • Jetta is much faster, especially off the line. (1.4 turbo)
    • Jetta uses a seven-speed DSG which shifts faster with a bit of 'manual feel', Vezel uses a CVT.
    • Jetta is more spacious inside I would say.
    • Vezel is a SUV body with a more practical tailgate and more flexible load carrying configuration.
    • Jetta has the more classy and inoffensive interior with better material grades.
    • Vezel is a parallel imported car built for Japanese domestic market (JDM), Jetta is brought in by VCS.
    • Fuel economy-wise, both should have similar averages but depends on your driving habits.
    • Handling... not sure, but the Jetta is known for good comfort.
    • Jetta would probably be more refined.
    • Jetta would likely be a lot less reliable. Or, at least, the DSG will be problematic, if stories continue to be true.
    • Jetta has more technology onboard, I would think.

    Jett a is highly likely to break down
  • 27 August 2015 - 10:25 PM
    LYC

    So... What was their reply when you followed up on the delivery date?
    So when is the next expected delivery date?

    Their reply was they r trying their best lor. still got ppl infront of me haven't take. they promised to pass me a courtesy car by end of this month. today reminded them again. shall see if they really honour their words or not lor.


  • 28 August 2015 - 01:15 AM
    Googoo

    Did Honda Malaysia reply you?

    oh yes.. they reply me say they dont sell the headunit...


  • 28 August 2015 - 09:42 AM
    WindChaser

    Anyone has any idea where to get a spare tyre for Vezel?�


  • 28 August 2015 - 10:00 AM
    Akszaksz

    Weird choice of comparison, but okay...

    • Jetta is much faster, especially off the line. (1.4 turbo)
    • Jetta uses a seven-speed DSG which shifts faster with a bit of 'manual feel', Vezel uses a CVT.
    • Jetta is more spacious inside I would say.
    • Vezel is a SUV body with a more practical tailgate and more flexible load carrying configuration.
    • Jetta has the more classy and inoffensive interior with better material grades.
    • Vezel is a parallel imported car built for Japanese domestic market (JDM), Jetta is brought in by VCS.
    • Fuel economy-wise, both should have similar averages but depends on your driving habits.
    • Handling... not sure, but the Jetta is known for good comfort.
    • Jetta would probably be more refined.
    • Jetta would likely be a lot less reliable. Or, at least, the DSG will be problematic, if stories continue to be true.
    • Jetta has more technology onboard, I would think.

    On top of Jetta less reliability, their VW support services is also famous, more to negative ways, lol.

    Of coz, getting vezel from PI also depends on whether you done your homework, reliabilty of the PI & thier workshop and sometimes, luck.


  • 28 August 2015 - 10:33 AM
    Darkbane

    Anyone interested in the mud guard for Vezel $25. Cash and carry. Decided to change my mind and not install it.�


  • 29 August 2015 - 12:38 AM
    OngGuoRong

    Anyone who is still exploring Vezel can pm me. Some of us looking at the different options/quotes so we can discuss together. Thanks.


  • 29 August 2015 - 08:00 AM
    Andyngps

    Anyone has any idea where to get a spare tyre for Vezel?�


    You can get it easily from any tyre shop or if you have lobang to scrap yard if you do not mind an old tyre. But do check if it can fit into the comparrtment as the edlc may be blocking..i used to do itin all my previous jdm cars.

    Edited by Andyngps, 29 August 2015 - 08:02 AM.

  • 29 August 2015 - 09:46 AM
    jhtm71

    Hi, any anybody upgraded their entertainment system from Pioneer AVH-X2750BT to Kenwood 9150BT. I am not sure whether is it worth to spend >$1K on the upgrade. Any comments.


  • 29 August 2015 - 11:28 AM
    Andyngps

    Hi, any anybody upgraded their entertainment system from Pioneer AVH-X2750BT to Kenwood 9150BT. I am not sure whether is it worth to spend >$1K on the upgrade. Any comments.


    Get a better set of speakers and amp first.
  • 29 August 2015 - 12:52 PM
    Rationalexuberance

    Weird choice of comparison, but okay...

    • Jetta is much faster, especially off the line. (1.4 turbo)
    • Jetta uses a seven-speed DSG which shifts faster with a bit of 'manual feel', Vezel uses a CVT.
    • Jetta is more spacious inside I would say.
    • Vezel is a SUV body with a more practical tailgate and more flexible load carrying configuration.
    • Jetta has the more classy and inoffensive interior with better material grades.
    • Vezel is a parallel imported car built for Japanese domestic market (JDM), Jetta is brought in by VCS.
    • Fuel economy-wise, both should have similar averages but depends on your driving habits.
    • Handling... not sure, but the Jetta is known for good comfort.
    • Jetta would probably be more refined.
    • Jetta would likely be a lot less reliable. Or, at least, the DSG will be problematic, if stories continue to be true.
    • Jetta has more technology onboard, I would think.

    Don't buy jetta, any Japanese car similar budget, stick to it, want more power get a Subaru turbo.

    Good reason why all the volks are stuck in the 2nd hand market not being sold.

    Even a champagne ah-pek colour, left with 2 yrs old Thailand made Toyota corolla sells faster and better margin that volks.

    whereas if you have budget and wanna own a conti, buy a better one.

    Jetta interior comfy? I dun think so though. I like the 1.4L turbo engine. but can do away with the faulty gearbox.


  • 29 August 2015 - 03:06 PM
    Throttle2
    Another crazy busy weekend
    Today no time to view cars, gotta settle my HD servicing first.

    Sigh... Will try next weekend.....

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    Edited by Throttle2, 29 August 2015 - 03:09 PM.

  • 29 August 2015 - 03:52 PM
    Chjas
    Any cartimes buyer collected VEZEL past 2 weeks?
  • 29 August 2015 - 05:11 PM
    Sean73

    Their reply was they r trying their best lor. still got ppl infront of me haven't take. they promised to pass me a courtesy car by end of this month. today reminded them again. shall see if they really honour their words or not lor.

    Bro,

    U bought from which PI ?


  • 29 August 2015 - 09:47 PM
    Rationalexuberance

    Buyers who got their cars from JDM Cars Pte Ltd please be careful.

    I am just displaying the truth...you'll be in in for a rough ride and you may not get your cars.

    D day H Hour has arrived for many, COE booked, PI cancel and refund.

    Those who make noise will have their bookings cancelled last minute.

    Those who r quiet, and they have already locked in a big profit margin on your deal, (i'm sorry, in other words, you are a carrot that has been chopped and you have NO IDEA whatsoever about it because you trusted their words), your cars may be forced delivered to you in ways you can't imagine.�

    New buyers stay away, many others to choose from, don't fall prey to fake advertisements that have never been seen delivered thus far.

    Enjoy your fun if you have already booked, or seek recourse by getting advice from your nearest guru.

    If you're in their facebook SGVEZEL DISCUSSION group, good luck.

    try posting a negative or honest question that seems bad for marketing...it will be DELETED and hid from the rest of the world.

    congrats to those who have already gotten back your refund

    cheers!! happy weekend!!

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    Edited by Rationalexuberance, 29 August 2015 - 09:48 PM.

  • 29 August 2015 - 10:30 PM
    Wt_know

    wow .. JDM simi taiji?


  • 29 August 2015 - 10:53 PM
    Vinzntonic

    Got another offer.. from Cars Inn.. anybody got feedback on that place??


  • 30 August 2015 - 12:57 AM
    rovwei
    Finally got my ride today after 4.5months!!

    I think very japanese feel, overall a gd ride!

    Im still exploring the features.. any bro can advise what is the right step to stop the engine? I pressed the stop engine and all went off.

    Any method to use the headunit without starting enine or stopping engine?
  • 30 August 2015 - 01:18 AM
    7hm

    Finally got my ride today after 4.5months!!

    I think very japanese feel, overall a gd ride!

    Im still exploring the features.. any bro can advise what is the right step to stop the engine? I pressed the stop engine and all went off.

    Any method to use the headunit without starting enine or stopping engine?

    When you say "stop the engine", you mean the automatic start-stop system for fuel saving?

    You must have this enabled, I think it usually a button that looks like an A with a ? around it.

    When you come to a stop, e.g. at a traffic light, hold the brake pedal all the way, depressed to the maximum. Judging from comments in this thread, this is a prerequisite for activating the system in the Vezel.


  • 30 August 2015 - 01:46 AM
    Melvincyc
    Bro,

    I am a little lost. If jdm cars did not deliver the cars and fully refunded, how did they locked in the big profits u mentioned?

    Thanks





    Buyers who got their cars from JDM Cars Pte Ltd please be careful.

    I am just displaying the truth...you'll be in in for a rough ride and you may not get your cars.

    D day H Hour has arrived for many, COE booked, PI cancel and refund.

    Those who make noise will have their bookings cancelled last minute.

    Those who r quiet, and they have already locked in a big profit margin on your deal, (i'm sorry, in other words, you are a carrot that has been chopped and you have NO IDEA whatsoever about it because you trusted their words), your cars may be forced delivered to you in ways you can't imagine.�

    New buyers stay away, many others to choose from, don't fall prey to fake advertisements that have never been seen delivered thus far.

    Enjoy your fun if you have already booked, or seek recourse by getting advice from your nearest guru.

    If you're in their facebook SGVEZEL DISCUSSION group, good luck.

    try posting a negative or honest question that seems bad for marketing...it will be DELETED and hid from the rest of the world.

    congrats to those who have already gotten back your refund

    cheers!! happy weekend!!


  • 30 August 2015 - 01:58 AM
    Rationalexuberance

    Bro,

    I am a little lost. If jdm cars did not deliver the cars and fully refunded, how did they locked in the big profits u mentioned?

    Thanks




    from the facts displayed by all the victims i know, JDM has overbooked on purpose to collect cash 1st. i.e an example is knowing that total of 100 vezels can be booked from supplier between june and dec, but collect 150 vezel bookings.

    With a buffet spread of customer bookings and money held by ONE KEY PERSON, they can choose who they want to deliver to.

    The big profit margins locked in, sorry, my mistake on expression.

    To clarify, for those gtd no top up deals where they managed to lock in low COE levels. And with a buffet spread of customers who have booked semi-blindly,not knowing exact consequences of the terms, those victims who have no idea they are sitting on 8-12k or more paper loss upfront (upfront paper loss equals cash profit for PI). These buyers who never complain or frequent FB nor MCF, i would assume they will be chosen as targets to milk.

    As it stands, the whole S shipment of improved version, is likely cancelled.

    Reason given was that supplier run road.�

    Facts however...checked with a few major players, no supplier ran road.

    Likely explanation why whole S shipment is gone...because not many dealers foresee that S improved model will end up being 5k cevs rebate only. This may mean a losing transaction.

    just another small point to add, they have been collecting admin fees from 400 to 3000, maybe more. All those who agree to it, have NO IDEA that when you buy new car, the standard market practice is no such admin fees. Hidden gimmicks.


    Edited by Rationalexuberance, 30 August 2015 - 02:00 AM.

  • 30 August 2015 - 05:37 AM
    trajet2b

    from the facts displayed by all the victims i know, JDM has overbooked on purpose to collect cash 1st. i.e an example is knowing that total of 100 vezels can be booked from supplier between june and dec, but collect 150 vezel bookings.

    With a buffet spread of customer bookings and money held by ONE KEY PERSON, they can choose who they want to deliver to.

    The big profit margins locked in, sorry, my mistake on expression.

    To clarify, for those gtd no top up deals where they managed to lock in low COE levels. And with a buffet spread of customers who have booked semi-blindly,not knowing exact consequences of the terms, those victims who have no idea they are sitting on 8-12k or more paper loss upfront (upfront paper loss equals cash profit for PI). These buyers who never complain or frequent FB nor MCF, i would assume they will be chosen as targets to milk.

    As it stands, the whole S shipment of improved version, is likely cancelled.

    Reason given was that supplier run road.�

    Facts however...checked with a few major players, no supplier ran road.

    Likely explanation why whole S shipment is gone...because not many dealers foresee that S improved model will end up being 5k cevs rebate only. This may mean a losing transaction.

    just another small point to add, they have been collecting admin fees from 400 to 3000, maybe more. All those who agree to it, have NO IDEA that when you buy new car, the standard market practice is no such admin fees. Hidden gimmicks.

    Sorry not enough power to praise you.

    "Overbooked on purpose"....." can choose who they want to deliver"� �hmmmmm......

    Seems like an EXCELLENT tactic to secure INTEREST FREE fundings.

    If we cancel, there is penalty.....If they cancel, no penalty.�

    Unfair business practices? Can bring this up to relevant 'Authorities' ?

    Incredible!


  • 30 August 2015 - 06:22 AM
    trajet2b

    Finally got my ride today after 4.5months!!

    I think very japanese feel, overall a gd ride!

    Im still exploring the features.. any bro can advise what is the right step to stop the engine? I pressed the stop engine and all went off.

    Any method to use the headunit without starting enine or stopping engine?

    Congrats!

    To keep HU on without engine running, put the gear shifter to N (not P) then press the Start/Stop Button.

    Download the one and only Vezel (direct Japanese to English) user manual.�

    Not so great but you have no choice. Unless you can read/learn Japanese language.

    https://www.dropbox..../Vezel.pdf?dl=0


  • 30 August 2015 - 07:03 AM
    Mjklbkldl

    Vezel is a really nice car. Great shape and road presence.

    A relative is seriously considering this as well.

    However, I am just wondering...with the Subaru Forester 2.0 non turbo at 120K+/-, will this not be a better deal?

    The 10K+/- premium is not a lot, but one gets real time AWD with X-Mode.

    Good for trips up north in rougher roads when needed.

    But of course, the fuel consumption of the Vezel is spectacular. The Forester is not as good in that aspect.


  • 30 August 2015 - 07:48 AM
    Vantivetech
    Subaru = nice drive (true) but bad support and most importantly terrible resale!

    Main advantage = Drive all you want into Malaysia no risk of it being stolen.
  • 30 August 2015 - 08:57 AM
    trajet2b

    Unless you go off road, how useful is AWD?

    Subaru looks solid and a bit dated though. Vezel have this up to date 'sporty' look.

    In this mini compact SUV category, one will sure turn to look at it.� [:)]

    What more can you ask. SUV look with affordable ownership cost. (road tax, insurance and petrol)


  • 30 August 2015 - 09:08 AM
    Credor

    Unless you go off road, how useful is AWD?

    Subaru looks solid and a bit dated though. Vezel have this up to date 'sporty' look.

    In this mini compact SUV category, one will sure turn to look at it.� [:)]

    What more can you ask. SUV look with affordable ownership cost. (road tax, insurance and petrol)


    Can't agreed more to it.
    SUV is gaining more popularity with crossover SUV joining into the AWD SUV.
    Each group is there to cater to difference need.
    Well, Vezel is the best selling SUV for the 1st half.
  • 30 August 2015 - 11:10 AM
    Hmsg

    was told that i will be collecting the car mid sep! ordered in june...


  • 30 August 2015 - 11:25 AM
    Wt_know

    the whole issue of buying Vezel from PI is KM HRV cannot make it [thumbsdown]

    KM should feedback to Japan their HRV sucks !!!


  • 30 August 2015 - 11:33 AM
    Tkseah

    was told that i will be collecting the car mid sep! ordered in june...

    dun count your chickens before they're hatched.. [:p]


  • 30 August 2015 - 12:04 PM
    Hmsg

    lol... ok!


  • 30 August 2015 - 12:43 PM
    rovwei

    Congrats!

    To keep HU on without engine running, put the gear shifter to N (not P) then press the Start/Stop Button.

    Download the one and only Vezel (direct Japanese to English) user manual.�
    Not so great but you have no choice. Unless you can read/learn Japanese language.

    https://www.dropbox..../Vezel.pdf?dl=0



    Thanks! will try out later.

    Maybe have to read through the manual before driving.

    Continue exploring..
  • 30 August 2015 - 12:55 PM
    Andyngps


    Don't buy jetta, any Japanese car similar budget, stick to it, want more power get a Subaru turbo.

    Good reason why all the volks are stuck in the 2nd hand market not being sold.

    Even a champagne ah-pek colour, left with 2 yrs old Thailand made Toyota corolla sells faster and better margin that volks.

    whereas if you have budget and wanna own a conti, buy a better one.

    Jetta interior comfy? I dun think so though. I like the 1.4L turbo engine. but can do away with the faulty gearbox.


    Concur totally!
  • 30 August 2015 - 12:58 PM
    rovwei


    When you say "stop the engine", you mean the automatic start-stop system for fuel saving?

    You must have this enabled, I think it usually a button that looks like an A with a ? around it.

    When you come to a stop, e.g. at a traffic light, hold the brake pedal all the way, depressed to the maximum. Judging from comments in this thread, this is a prerequisite for activating the system in the Vezel.


    No the automatic stopping. I off the feature already..

    I mean do we need to start the engine to turn on the headunit. Maybe have to continue exploring as i just got ride yesterday..
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