mycarforum: Honda Vezel part 74

Here are some more Japanese consumer feedback on the FC of the Vezel in Japan. The FC no.s do not require translation and speak for themselves.

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http://minkara.carvi...da/vezel/nenpi/

Here are some more Japanese consumer feedback on the FC of the Vezel in Japan. The FC no.s do not require translation and speak for themselves.
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http://minkara.carvi...da/vezel/nenpi/

Looks legit. Lol. Anyway i tried on NS hw...got 17 at best only but my spd around 130km average. Pushing it above 110km mk it no longer fuel efficient. You will not be able to get the green ring when above 110km per hr and the cruise ctrl only up till 110km as well. In city i can get abt 13...so its kinda of obvious this car is designed for city driving imho.

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Yah, agreed with Andyngps on the bulls.

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I passed my PI the deposit cheque on Monday and they got approval of the loan with the banks on Tuesday and proceed to bid and got my coe on Wednesday when my car not even in SG yet.

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It all boils down to the greed appetite of the PIs.

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So when is your est date that you can take your car?

Anyone knows tat Vezel is 4-speed or 5-speed?�

Anyone knows tat Vezel is 4-speed or 5-speed?�

Its CVT bro.

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You think the Vezel is a Honda Avanza meh... LOL

Its CVT bro.

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You think the Vezel is a Honda Avanza meh..

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Thanks bro [blush]

Edited by MaxMax_92524, 23 July 2015 - 03:43 PM.

Anyone knows tat Vezel is 4-speed or 5-speed?�

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Continously Variable Transmission (CVT) with virtual 7-speed mode and paddle shifters in S trim.

Hybrid has a 7-speed Dual-Clutch Transmission (DCT).

Here is an update on the bicycle loading capacity inside the Vezel. This means that you do not need to load the bikes above on the roof or outside the car.

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- It's capable of fitting in 1 non folded 20 inch kids MTB and 1 folded 20 inch adult bicycle. only 1 seat in 2nd row folded down. other 2nd row seat remain up to seat 1 adult and 1 child or 2 children. front row seats driver and one adult. total of 4 passengers �+ 2 bicycles. This is good enough for me.

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- I managed to put in 1 non foldable Raleigh Rowdy 20 inch kids mountain bike ( folding the 2nd row back seat behind the driver down flat) plus one 20 inch folded Vert bicycle in standing position and secured with bicycle rope hooks to the headrest of the remaining 2nd row seats that are not folded.

I want to ask, those always drive around East coast area / Still road

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There is a White Vezel park there.. its bumper is all white.. anybody knows why?

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Isit body kit installation? Or S model? So far i see about 2 or 3 of this kind.

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I know normal White Vezel, bumper area is black matte..

Here is an update on the bicycle loading capacity inside the Vezel. This means that you do not need to load the bikes above on the roof or outside the car.

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- It's capable of fitting in 1 non folded 20 inch kids MTB and 1 folded 20 inch adult bicycle. only 1 seat in 2nd row folded down. other 2nd row seat remain up to seat 1 adult and 1 child or 2 children. front row seats driver and one adult. total of 4 passengers �+ 2 bicycles. This is good enough for me.

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- I managed to put in 1 non foldable Raleigh Rowdy 20 inch kids mountain bike ( folding the 2nd row back seat behind the driver down flat) plus one 20 inch folded Vert bicycle in standing position and secured with bicycle rope hooks to the headrest of the remaining 2nd row seats that are not folded.

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Did u get the bike stand part for inside your Vezel? I saw some pics earlier that there is some sort of holder that lets ur bike sit normally in your back seat without having to lay to the side?

I want to ask, those always drive around East coast area / Still road

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There is a White Vezel park there.. its bumper is all white.. anybody knows why?

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Isit body kit installation? Or S model? So far i see about 2 or 3 of this kind.

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I know normal White Vezel, bumper area is black matte..

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Did u get the bike stand part for inside your Vezel? I saw some pics earlier that there is some sort of holder that lets ur bike sit normally in your back seat without having to lay to the side?

�hybrid version bumpers all colour tone.

Hmm..quite bull...usually is bid first within the stipulated no. Of bids and deliver asap. If you paid a good price, hold. Hope the best for you bro.

And gd resale..

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more supply...lower price...just like COE isnt it? :DD hahahaha

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more supply...lower price...just like COE isnt it? :DD hahahaha

On the contrary no, but that is what the pi may tell you when you sell...but in actual fact we know it commands gd value because of popularity and reliability..like civic...plenty of them too but gd resale...give you another example...renault megane for example not many...but yet resale sucks...

I want to ask, those always drive around East coast area / Still road
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There is a White Vezel park there.. its bumper is all white.. anybody knows why?
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Isit body kit installation? Or S model? So far i see about 2 or 3 of this kind.
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I know normal White Vezel, bumper area is black matte..

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Did u get the bike stand part for inside your Vezel? I saw some pics earlier that there is some sort of holder that lets ur bike sit normally in your back seat without having to lay to the side?

You can take out the skirtings and spray whatever colour you like bro.

Mit ASX 2L with full equipment 5 yr service package at 109,999. Wonder if anyone test against this vs Vezel ? Price wise looks sexy .. :-) any feedback?

On the contrary no, but that is what the pi may tell you when you sell...but in actual fact we know it commands gd value because of popularity and reliability..like civic...plenty of them too but gd resale...give you another example...renault megane for example not many...but yet resale sucks...

You can take out the skirtings and spray whatever colour you like bro.

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I saw auntie driving exactly same look also.. and not 1 but a few exactly similar so i was just asking.. thanks :)

�hybrid version bumpers all colour tone.

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more supply...lower price...just like COE isnt it? :DD hahahaha

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Tail light same as normal Vezel..

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Hybrid vezel tail light different...

Mit ASX 2L with full equipment 5 yr service package at 109,999. Wonder if anyone test against this vs Vezel ? Price wise looks sexy .. :-) any feedback?

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Saw and sat the ASX. Dun need to test. Looking at the specs, underpowered for 2L. Sat in showroom, everywhere too small for me. Only just fitting..so forgo...however due to curiosity, i shall give it a test drive.

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For now i tried mitsu, toyota and honda. Honda drives the best.

Here is an update on the bicycle loading capacity inside the Vezel. This means that you do not need to load the bikes above on the roof or outside the car.

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- It's capable of fitting in 1 non folded 20 inch kids MTB and 1 folded 20 inch adult bicycle. only 1 seat in 2nd row folded down. other 2nd row seat remain up to seat 1 adult and 1 child or 2 children. front row seats driver and one adult. total of 4 passengers �+ 2 bicycles. This is good enough for me.

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- I managed to put in 1 non foldable Raleigh Rowdy 20 inch kids mountain bike ( folding the 2nd row back seat behind the driver down flat) plus one 20 inch folded Vert bicycle in standing position and secured with bicycle rope hooks to the headrest of the remaining 2nd row seats that are not folded.

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so... an adult regular size bicycle, probably cannot make it?

To answer 7hm question :

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adult regular size bicycle can fit, provided that its

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1) front wheel can be taken out for wheel size 24 inch and above, as shown in link below :

- http://i.haymarketin...ed-1024x757.jpg

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- probably won't fit if you have a 26 inch MTB that is not foldable.

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And reply to Vinzntonic�:

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- I did not use the bike stand part as shown in link above.

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- Thought I would improvised with another Bike L stand that will meet my needs in this case.

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My little experiment ( damage is $20-30 ) used

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1) Bike L stand ($15) to stabilize the standing 20 inch kids MTB and secured with bicycle ropes ($5-15) to the front driver seat's headrest poles. one of the wheels can be further secured to the foldie in the boot area.

- the L stand is placed at location marked X (A) in the second picture - Top View BLOCK Diagram.

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2) standing 20 inch folded adult bicycle right behind the back row pax seat 3 & 4 and similarly secured by bicycle ropes to the head rest of the 2nd row seat and going through the wheels of the foldie to prevent it from moving when car makes a turn on the road.

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3) some small space is also left in boot area to place helmets and water bottles - can be put in small rectangular box to prevent rolling about

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bros, how much is the vezel hybrid retailing?� seems like it has much more decent power and torque numbers......quite keen to try it out.

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any PI allows test drive?

too much money at stake, do choose properly which PI you go are going with. price is not everything. oh yeah you can lose all your money if you are not careful. yes this is singapore �trust me it happens.

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Try to negotiate with PI that you will do your own �COE bidding.

Buy the car body from them. car booking fee $5k?�

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This way, you minimise your risk of losing your COE $$ and you can dictate how much to bid without relying on them to hold back your bidding.�

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Try to negotiate with PI that you will do your own �COE bidding.

Buy the car body from them. car booking fee $5k?�

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This way, you minimise your risk of losing your COE $$ and you can dictate how much to bid without relying on them to hold back your bidding.�

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That is my tactic too but i think better to bid COE first and then go shopping for car once you have your COE in hand.

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That way can look for dealer with ready stock of your colour choice and I think you will be able to drive a better discount as it will be a very fast deal for them. Arrange loan & insurance, register car and handover all can be done in 2-3 days. There are many PI out there.....

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am new to buying brand new cars and hope bros and sis can help with this.

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Is it that anything below the COE rebate during the bidding session means the PI will refund? Example COE rebate is $50k means if PI secure COE at $45k, I get a rebate of $5k?

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more imptly have you gotten your coe n at wat price

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full article featured here bro, check out the vezel with no HU..empty hole used as tissue box holder

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A gentle reminder to all would be buyers of Vezels from PI, please seriously note that having cars already in the showroom does NOT mean anything, and it should not be a push factor to choose that dealer. Please focus on your actual deal's Terms & Conditions & Fine Print.
If you don't already know, a few fellow Vezelians have lost in excess of 8k or more in paper value of their cars upfront,which entered the PI's cash register ka-ching ka-ching as full profit. i.e you could have paid 8k less because they were not familiar with negotiating on COE rebate levels. As such, if you lose 8k or more in paper value, it makes no difference in buying from Kah Motors even though KM brings HRV with inferior built and an older engine. That is from a financial standpoint.

Remember! Go For High COE rebate Deals!
Cat A last close 58.7k
Cat B last close 65.5k

3k COE rebate deals below the above COE listings IMO is fair.�
I don't want to promote AD but fyi, KM is offering 56k rebate and negotiable.
Remember don't fall for gimmicks! Tonnes of dealers out there to choose from, they're improved versions are all on the way, find a great deal COE now on its way down anyway, all the best!

Happy Sunday everybody!!

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YES! The company im buying from secured my COE $55889 liao.�Looking forward to get my ride in couple of weeks time!

YES! The company im buying from secured my COE $55889 liao.�Looking forward to get my ride in couple of weeks time!

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Congrats Bro !!! So did you get any COE rebate? How much?

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Congrats Bro !!! So did you get any COE rebate? How much?

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Thanks Kaicar, in the end I went for guaranteed COE, no top up or rebate. Hassle free for me.

Im interested in this car,but have never owned a Honda nor went thru a PI before.Anyone here can intro me to a reliable PI?

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Realised Kah Motors has a similar looking car called HR-V,is it the same car? But price difference a lot.

http://www.sgcarmart...=485699&DL=2296

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good buy? can trust TRUST motoring?

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That is my tactic too but i think better to bid COE first and then go shopping for car once you have your COE in hand.

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That way can look for dealer with ready stock of your colour choice and I think you will be able to drive a better discount as it will be a very fast deal for them. Arrange loan & insurance, register car and handover all can be done in 2-3 days. There are many PI out there.....

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It is as not as simple as you think. If you do not have a firmed price on the car body + accessories, warranties ...etc and you secured your coe, you will be at the mercy of PI.

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Why? your TCOE is valid for 6 months. PI can put a high car price and you lan lan must buy. else lose $10K when TCOE expires.

Im interested in this car,but have never owned a Honda nor went thru a PI before.Anyone here can intro me to a reliable PI?

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Realised Kah Motors has a similar looking car called HR-V,is it the same car? But price difference a lot.

PM sent for Question 1.

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Question 2 - read here

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-�http://www.mycarforu...-vezel/page-132

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-�http://forums.hardwa...rv-5022100.html

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It is as not as simple as you think. If you do not have a firmed price on the car body + accessories, warranties ...etc and you secured your coe, you will be at the mercy of PI.

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Why? your TCOE is valid for 6 months. PI can put a high car price and you lan lan must buy. else lose $10K when TCOE expires.

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There are many PIs around and their reputation is very important. If they try to be funny, the whole market will know. Go around and shop and ask for the price of body and body and coe �and you will be able to get car body at the market price plus the coe price that you are comfortable with which you bid yourself.

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It is as not as simple as you think. If you do not have a firmed price on the car body + accessories, warranties ...etc and you secured your coe, you will be at the mercy of PI.

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Why? your TCOE is valid for 6 months. PI can put a high car price and you lan lan must buy. else lose $10K when TCOE expires.

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If you were only interested in one car model that is only brought in by one AD then I might agree with you. But for a common car like a Vezel you are not at the mercy of the PI at all. If you don't like the pricing from one showroom just walk out and walk in to the next one.. Last time I looked there are something like 50 importers of Vezels, some of them even quote the car price without COE on sgcarmart

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But of course, if you ask them, they will try and persuade you that it is better for them to do the COE bidding for you, but that is only because they want to manipulate the process. Basically there is a timelag between booking the car and the need for them to obtain your COE and with prices dropping, by getting you to pay the current market price for the car and then getting your COE 2 or 3 months in the future, most of the savings in COE cost ends up in their pocket not yours, even though you can attempt to limit the damage by negotiating as a high a rebate level as possible, there is still a few thousand dollars "fat" in the deal that they wiill cream off..

Hmm..quite bull...usually is bid first within the stipulated no. Of bids and deliver asap. If you paid a good price, hold. Hope the best for you bro.

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Question will be, what is a good price [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

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Question will be, what is a good price

The price you buy must be close to the current price at that point of time your agent bidded for you successfully. Henceforth in a declining coe environment, there is always a high chance you are buying at a high by the time you got your coe..unless you are trading in or get a very good fiscount...mho only...

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am new to buying brand new cars and hope bros and sis can help with this.
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Is it that anything below the COE rebate during the bidding session means the PI will refund? Example COE rebate is $50k means if PI secure COE at $45k, I get a rebate of $5k?
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Yes bro.

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am new to buying brand new cars and hope bros and sis can help with this.

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Is it that anything below the COE rebate during the bidding session means the PI will refund? Example COE rebate is $50k means if PI secure COE at $45k, I get a rebate of $5k?

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I think what you are proposing is non guaranteed bid, you are free to set your buying price of the car including your intended COE price. Let the PI do the work of bidding, say if you set at $40k, then PI will go in at $40k, ended up $35k, you will get back $5k rebate, if tender exercise closed at $50k, basically you don't get your car...

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It is as not as simple as you think. If you do not have a firmed price on the car body + accessories, warranties ...etc and you secured your coe, you will be at the mercy of PI.

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Why? your TCOE is valid for 6 months. PI can put a high car price and you lan lan must buy. else lose $10K when TCOE expires.

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I think there is another underlying issue in this approach, that is stock availability. As we are all aware of, Vezel is a highly sought after car, in fact, market is facing shortage, if you are approaching in such manner, what happened if you fail to get your car in time before TCOE expired?

Anyone heard of Jack Cars {PI}? Saw a few vezel on the road...thought of getting a vezel soon on the next bidding.

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Thanks Kaicar, in the end I went for guaranteed COE, no top up or rebate. Hassle free for me.

I hope you dun recommend your deal to others..gtd no top up is fine but no coe rebate is dangerous.

One might have lost much money alredy but still don't know.

I know of a group of guys who did not intend to lose paper value, did not know the risks involved and trusted the boss words. Words are meant for kopitiam talk. Now sitting 5figure losses but their hands are tied

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I think there is another underlying issue in this approach, that is stock availability. As we are all aware of, Vezel is a highly sought after car, in fact, market is facing shortage, if you are approaching in such manner, what happened if you fail to get your car in time before TCOE expired?

precisely my point. you get coe first and look for car (which is highly sought - more demand than supply) be prepared to lose your $10K or pay for a much higher car price.

PM sent for Question 1.

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Question 2 - read here

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hi bro, can pm me the answer for question 1 too? [:p]

precisely my point. you get coe first and look for car (which is highly sought - more demand than supply) be prepared to lose your $10K or pay for a much higher car price.

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Depending on which model you are getting. If PI or even certain AD, they still get the same price for their car and coe will be paid to the garmen, why would they not sell to you?How to lose the $10K????

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Depending on which model you are getting. If PI or even certain AD, they still get the same price for their car and coe will be paid to the garmen, why would they not sell to you?How to lose the $10K????

this is a Vezel forum and i assume we are talking about the variants of vezels models. there is no AD version for Vezel. HRV is not exactly the same as Vezel in terms of engine and fittings.

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due to the limited supply of vezel, PI can take advantage on you if you have secured your COE. I am talking about those who wants to self bid first without securing a booking with PI. Unless you pay premium, no PI will sell to you if you have COE in hand. if you never register a car within 6 months your TCOE will expire. You will lose your $10K COE deposit.

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Anyway, its up to you, if you think, its best to get coe on your own first and then start looking for the car, that fine by me.�

Edited by trajet2b, 25 July 2015 - 12:30 AM.

this is a Vezel forum and i assume we are talking about the variants of vezels models. there is no AD version for Vezel. HRV is not exactly the same as Vezel in terms of engine and fittings.

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due to the limited supply of vezel, PI can take advantage on you if you have secured your COE. I am talking about those who wants to self bid first without securing a booking with PI. Unless you pay premium, no PI will sell to you if you have COE in hand. if you never register a car within 6 months your TCOE will expire. You will lose your $10K COE deposit.

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Anyway, its up to you, if you think, its best to get coe on your own first and then start looking for the car, that fine by me.�

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There are 87 PI dealing with Vezel and I would like to believe that there is at least one reasonable, honest PI out there who feel their margin will still be the same whether you get from them just the car body or car body plus coe with them. The one who go by this option of self bidding must be flexible to switch to other make should Vezel prices gone crazy.

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Anyone has gotten car through self bidding and care to share here?

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There are 87 PI dealing with Vezel and I would like to believe that there is at least one reasonable, honest PI out there who feel their margin will still be the same whether you get from them just the car body or car body plus coe with them. The one who go by this option of self bidding must be flexible to switch to other make should Vezel prices gone crazy.

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Anyone has gotten car through self bidding and care to share here?

actually I wonder what is the rationale to go through this tedious process?

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Simple solution. If you think COE will drop to $40k for CAT A for example. Just go for non guaranteed bid at $40k. PI will lock in $40k for your COE, if you get it at $40k then surely you get your car. If drop to $35k, the $5k will still be factored into your final purchase price. No need to go through the hassle of arming with a TCOE and panicking looking for a car right? Just sign, pay $20k and sit back relax.

actually I wonder what is the rationale to go through this tedious process?

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Simple solution. If you think COE will drop to $40k for CAT A for example. Just go for non guaranteed bid at $40k. PI will lock in $40k for your COE, if you get it at $40k then surely you get your car. If drop to $35k, the $5k will still be factored into your final purchase price. No need to go through the hassle of arming with a TCOE and panicking looking for a car right? Just sign, pay $20k and sit back relax.

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Edited by trajet2b, 25 July 2015 - 09:48 AM.

http://www.sgcarmart...=485699&DL=2296

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good buy? can trust TRUST motoring?

PI spotted.

more imptly have you gotten your coe n at wat price

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full article featured here bro, check out the vezel with no HU..empty hole used as tissue box holder

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In case you missed out, hope it's not too late...

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article shared from facebook group

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A gentle reminder to all would be buyers of Vezels from PI, please seriously note that having cars already in the showroom does NOT mean anything, and it should not be a push factor to choose that dealer. Please focus on your actual deal's Terms & Conditions & Fine Print.
If you don't already know, a few fellow Vezelians have lost in excess of 8k or more in paper value of their cars upfront,which entered the PI's cash register ka-ching ka-ching as full profit. i.e you could have paid 8k less because they were not familiar with negotiating on COE rebate levels. As such, if you lose 8k or more in paper value, it makes no difference in buying from Kah Motors even though KM brings HRV with inferior built and an older engine. That is from a financial standpoint.

Remember! Go For High COE rebate Deals!
Cat A last close 58.7k
Cat B last close 65.5k

3k COE rebate deals below the above COE listings IMO is fair.�
I don't want to promote AD but fyi, KM is offering 56k rebate and negotiable.
Remember don't fall for gimmicks! Tonnes of dealers out there to choose from, they're improved versions are all on the way, find a great deal COE now on its way down anyway, all the best!

Happy Sunday everybody!!

Nowaday, because of COE...buying a car is getting so complicated, especially with all the small print hidden inside the contract.

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AD/PI will write the contract to their advantage...I think we need a lawyer to vet thru the contract before signing....

Edited by Imac, 25 July 2015 - 10:36 AM.

Get a reputable PI is important or someone with track records of delivering good service.

I visited many many PI on vezel and realised that the prices offered can be easily a 10k range... with the more reputable PI offering a higher price and the dodgy ones quoting an unbelievable low price.

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well.... I rather pay a bit more.

First HR-V at my mscp

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Edited by Fitvip, 25 July 2015 - 11:12 AM.

First HR-V at my mscp

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Fitvip: Please remove my car picture. Thank you.

if got COE then I will not complain at all. The problem is, PI says they will not bid till Sep or later when the unit arrives SG. So need to wait for so long and at the same time, see COE drops fast

I think you and my friend got the same PI.

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He book during CNY, 6 Bids Gurt COE..until now the PI only only placed 1 bid for him in Feb..after that earthquake happen... shipment is delay, delay, more delay...

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PI tell him no point bidding as car not here yet.....he want to cancel the contract, PI said contract stated 6 bids..if he pullout now, means breaking the contract...wahhhh

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Lesson from here....stated the "start and end date" of the 6 bids in the contract ...if not, 6 bids can be 6 months or 6 years long.....

Just would like to update for my case

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Discuss with my SE Friday evening and issued solved (hopefully). Car will be delivered before September and Chassis number is given. Confirm is Vezel X improved model.�

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In the end, losing many K on paper value but at least can get my car and get it earlier than expected. SE told me "getting hold on your car key is the most important thing buying for PI. Lower price but with endless waiting is worst". Kinda agree so cannot complain much now.

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Hopefully will get my car on schedule. Thanks!

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Bros, any advice whether I should pay the penalty and cancel my contract?

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The situation is, I booked a Vezel X from one PI (famous in this forum) at certain price (market price at that time). Paid 5K deposit and 10K for COE bidding. But the key is, no COE rebate given. So now the COE dropped 10K and�Vezel X selling price dropped my than 5K, so should I ask to cancel my agreement?

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To me buying from PI is gambling and lose is just lose. But my wife says we should always go for better deal. Even we lose some admin charges, we can easily get it back if COE drops further after Aug.

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Any advice? Sincere thanks!

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I saw a HRV on the road ytd too, I wonder if the owner knows abt Vezel model?? Btw, the class A COE dropped in the recent COE bidding, did any PI drop their price??

I saw a HRV on the road ytd too, I wonder if the owner knows abt Vezel model?? Btw, the class A COE dropped in the recent COE bidding, did any PI drop their price??

No offence but when i was at KM..i saw those who bought hrv are either aunties or aged uncles...even when i go to workshops there are uncles who asked me why i did not get hrv...so u roughly know they think vezel and hrv are similar and we should get hrv for peace of mind...

Edited by Andyngps, 25 July 2015 - 01:32 PM.

No offence but when i was at KM..i saw those who bought hrv are either aunties or aged uncles...even when i go to workshops there are uncles who asked me why i did not get hrv...so u roughly know they think vezel and hrv are similar and we should get hrv for peace of mind...

True about the age group. Many don't know and don't check the difference! They place too much trust in ADs.�

actually I wonder what is the rationale to go through this tedious process?

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�Just sign, pay $20k and sit back relax.

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Why pay $20k to a PI to bid on your behalf.... and then get hassled by them asking you to top up, or even worse, maybe have a struggle getting your cash back from him months later if the COE never reaches your price point.

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When in less than 30 seconds at an ATM and for the small cost of $2 you can do it yourself.�

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I would much rather trust the LTA with my $10k deposit for 1-2 days than pass $20k to a PI for 2-3 months that's for sure..!!

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Why pay $20k to a PI to bid on your behalf.... and then get hassled by them asking you to top up, or even worse, maybe have a struggle getting your cash back from him months later if the COE never reaches your price point.

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When in less than 30 seconds at an ATM and for the small cost of $2 you can do it yourself.�

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I would much rather trust the LTA with my $10k deposit for 1-2 days than pass $20k to a PI for 2-3 months that's for sure..!!

Err..have you bid your own COE and then try buying a car from AD or PI?

Err..have you bid your own COE and then try buying a car from AD or PI?

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Done it before and bought from an AD. Had 2 cars I was interested in and had no issue getting my first choice at what i considered was a very reasonable price. That was some years ago with Champion Motors.

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That experience was positive which is why i am doing it again. First choice is Subaru and alternate choice is a Vezel. I dont anticipate any problems but rest assured if it all goes wrong I will come back here and spill the beans..� [:p]

True about the age group. Many don't know and don't check the difference! They place too much trust in ADs.�

Exactly. KM told me buy from them sure peace of mind...pi not trustworthy...i thinksome pi r better than AD tbh..

Exactly. KM told me buy from them sure peace of mind...pi not trustworthy...i thinksome pi r better than AD tbh..

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Either side will say they are the better ones.. not only happens to AD vs PI but everywhere.. even chicken rice seller, fish market seller or rojak seller etc.... have the same responds :)

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It all boils down to how's the buying experience and service you received.�

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1 experience is when i visit AD.. the salesperson don't even bother to greet you ... but the PIs i happened to visit greet immediately n ask if theres any assistance required.. and im wearing jus a flipflop, tees and bermudas.

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Some people might want to pay more .... some might have a tighter budget and will give and take.. so it's all depends on ea individuals needs.

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Either side will say they are the better ones.. not only happens to AD vs PI but everywhere.. even chicken rice seller, fish market seller or rojak seller etc.... have the same responds :)
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It all boils down to how's the buying experience and service you received.�
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1 experience is when i visit AD.. the salesperson don't even bother to greet you ... but the PIs i happened to visit greet immediately n ask if theres any assistance required.. and im wearing jus a flipflop, tees and bermudas.
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Some people might want to pay more .... some might have a tighter budget and will give and take.. so it's all depends on ea individuals needs.

Beautifully out across bro...

actually I wonder what is the rationale to go through this tedious process?

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Simple solution. If you think COE will drop to $40k for CAT A for example. Just go for non guaranteed bid at $40k. PI will lock in $40k for your COE, if you get it at $40k then surely you get your car. If drop to $35k, the $5k will still be factored into your final purchase price. No need to go through the hassle of arming with a TCOE and panicking looking for a car right? Just sign, pay $20k and sit back relax.

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After a bad experience with BM, a so called reputable AD, and at the mercy of anyone who bid for you, still prefer to bid myself, able to decide at the last min what to do given the situation at that point of time.

Exactly. KM told me buy from them sure peace of mind...pi not trustworthy...i thinksome pi r better than AD tbh..

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I have a good experience with KM, was not presurred and felt that they are fair in their policy if I want to go for Mobilio.

Just would like to update for my case
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Discuss with my SE Friday evening and issued solved (hopefully). Car will be delivered before September and Chassis number is given. Confirm is Vezel X improved model.�
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In the end, losing many K on paper value but at least can get my car and get it earlier than expected. SE told me "getting hold on your car key is the most important thing buying for PI. Lower price but with endless waiting is worst". Kinda agree so cannot complain much now.
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Hopefully will get my car on schedule. Thanks!
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Great! At least ur getting some positive feedback from them, hope u get ur ride soon....

Btw, spotted a white Vezel in jurong west mscp washing bay, belongs to any bro/sis here? Shoutout! Lol...

Hi all, looking to get vezel too....will any PI have existing stock or they will take in only when they are buyers? �If have then no need to wait for few months liao....

Edited by CalvinChoy, 25 July 2015 - 09:54 PM.

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After a bad experience with BM, a so called reputable AD, and at the mercy of anyone who bid for you, still prefer to bid myself, able to decide at the last min what to do given the situation at that point of time.

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I have a good experience with KM, was not presurred and felt that they are fair in their policy if I want to go for Mobilio.

SE from KM spotted.

SE from KM spotted.

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Are you a car dealer from other company? �I am definitely not a SE from KM but a would be car buyer since CNY time. But since someone shared the bad experience with KM, I have to share the good experience too, I will give credit where credit is due and report bad experience accordingly too. ....

Hi. I am also keen on this vezel X but want a good deal ( who doesn't?). My situation is that it is my first car (am more of a 2 wheeler) but for family purposes would be great to have car.�

I am no hurry to get a car and was thinking of locking in COE at $51K and then let PI bid till $51K is reached and if not, too bad, stick with motorbike. I can put down up to $40K for 6 months, not an issue but want my money back if no car. If based on $51K CEO, can I expect the Vezel X to be at $100K total? Since OMV is around $24K and CEV rebate $10K. Correct me if I am wrong.

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hi bro, can pm me the answer for question 1 too?

Bro, sent you the PM.

Hi. I am also keen on this vezel X but want a good deal ( who doesn't?). My situation is that it is my first car (am more of a 2 wheeler) but for family purposes would be great to have car.�
I am no hurry to get a car and was thinking of locking in COE at $51K and then let PI bid till $51K is reached and if not, too bad, stick with motorbike. I can put down up to $40K for 6 months, not an issue but want my money back if no car. If based on $51K CEO, can I expect the Vezel X to be at $100K total? Since OMV is around $24K and CEV rebate $10K. Correct me if I am wrong.

Based on your quoted figures of $24k OMV, $10k CEVS Rebate, & $51K COE, the cost of the car including COE would be about $98K, i dun suppose any dealer will sell at $100K

Based on your quoted figures of $24k OMV, $10k CEVS Rebate, & $51K COE, the cost of the car including COE would be about $98K, i dun suppose any dealer will sell at $100K

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Thanks Bro for the valuable input. Will visit some dealers next week so see what is achievable.

I think you and my friend got the same PI.

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He book during CNY, 6 Bids Gurt COE..until now the PI only only placed 1 bid for him in Feb..after that earthquake happen... shipment is delay, delay, more delay...

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PI tell him no point bidding as car not here yet.....he want to cancel the contract, PI said contract stated 6 bids..if he pullout now, means breaking the contract...wahhhh

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Lesson from here....stated the "start and end date" of the 6 bids in the contract ...if not, 6 bids can be 6 months or 6 years long.....

�the PI in the hot seat now delay 7-8 bids. previously bid for show to my friends only, following bid didn't bid. if had bidded following one at same price, wud have gotten. now sitting on 8k paper loss. PI pocket full sum as additional profit. this 8k is more dan profit margin of the car.

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beware of no or low coe deals

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cheers

Hi. I am also keen on this vezel X but want a good deal ( who doesn't?). My situation is that it is my first car (am more of a 2 wheeler) but for family purposes would be great to have car.�

I am no hurry to get a car and was thinking of locking in COE at $51K and then let PI bid till $51K is reached and if not, too bad, stick with motorbike. I can put down up to $40K for 6 months, not an issue but want my money back if no car. If based on $51K CEO, can I expect the Vezel X to be at $100K total? Since OMV is around $24K and CEV rebate $10K. Correct me if I am wrong.

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vezel omv was never 24k

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X is abt 18k plus

S is abt 19k plus

Z is abt 22-23k plus

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improved version with new cevs table...

X is 10k cevs

S is 5k cevs to start with ( waiting to see dealers show they can achieve 10k cevs)

Z is 10k cevs

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now hybrid X getting popular.

wonder if trajet2b bro have any info on hybrid X if can achieve 15k cevs

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vezel omv was never 24k

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X is abt 18k plus

S is abt 19k plus

Z is abt 22-23k plus

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improved version with new cevs table...

X is 10k cevs

S is 5k cevs to start with ( waiting to see dealers show they can achieve 10k cevs)

Z is 10k cevs

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now hybrid X getting popular.

wonder if trajet2b bro have any info on hybrid X if can achieve 15k cevs

Thanks Bro. So I am actually leaning toward getting my own COE throught DBS ATM bidding and once COE secured to shop around PI for Vezel. I looked at Vezel before 6 months ago and I believe that time OMV for X model was about $23K, G = $20K. �With OMV stated below it should definitely be possible to get the Car alone for $49K, maybe less.

Edited by rstopel, 27 July 2015 - 09:26 AM.

Thanks Bro. So I am actually leaning toward getting my own COE throught DBS ATM bidding and once COE secured to shop around PI for Vezel. I looked at Vezel before 6 months ago and I believe that time OMV for X model was about $23K, G = $20K. �With OMV stated below it should definitely be possible to get the Car alone for $49K, maybe less.

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If you would like to bid for your COE, suggest you go to a dealer who will agree to sell you the car w/o coe before you bid. Given that you will get your coe w/o car body, chances are some dealers will not give you priority, and you won't want to be stuck in a situation with a coe (which expires in 6 months), and no dealer who will sell you your car.

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Anyway I believe the vezel omv is under 20k, mine was about 19+.�

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If you would like to bid for your COE, suggest you go to a dealer who will agree to sell you the car w/o coe before you bid. Given that you will get your coe w/o car body, chances are some dealers will not give you priority, and you won't want to be stuck in a situation with a coe (which expires in 6 months), and no dealer who will sell you your car.

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Anyway I believe the vezel omv is under 20k, mine was about 19+.�

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good suggestion. what is a fair (guide) price for X w/o COE? �The list price for X w COE $58K is $105K.�

�the PI in the hot seat now delay 7-8 bids. previously bid for show to my friends only, following bid didn't bid. if had bidded following one at same price, wud have gotten. now sitting on 8k paper loss. PI pocket full sum as additional profit. this 8k is more dan profit margin of the car.

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beware of no or low coe deals

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cheers

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vezel omv was never 24k

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X is abt 18k plus

S is abt 19k plus

Z is abt 22-23k plus

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improved version with new cevs table...

X is 10k cevs

S is 5k cevs to start with ( waiting to see dealers show they can achieve 10k cevs)

Z is 10k cevs

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now hybrid X getting popular.

wonder if trajet2b bro have any info on hybrid X if can achieve 15k cevs

My friend also say when he book during CNY period, the PI told him OMV is $24K plus.

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But when he collect the car, it states only $18k plus.

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PI tell him it is normal...it is due to exchange rate going down...

I have also decided on a Vezel.

Just whether to buy now or January 2016 when my wife's insurance hits 30%disc.
Also becos COE is coming off anyway so no rush.

Looking for a reliable House that can take in my wife's Sep 2008 Mazda 2 at fair price and choot a black or blue Vezel, with genuine leather seats and V-cool and sunroof?
Also pay full cash or if worse come to worse, minimum loan over minimum tenure.

Steady......

Thought white is the most popular colour in Vezel? Cause almost all Vezel i saw on the road is white! Lol.

I have also decided on a Vezel.

Just whether to buy now or January 2016 when my wife's insurance hits 30%disc.
Also becos COE is coming off anyway so no rush.

Looking for a reliable House that can take in my wife's Sep 2008 Mazda 2 at fair price and choot a black or blue Vezel, with genuine leather seats and V-cool and sunroof?
Also pay full cash or if worse come to worse, minimum loan over minimum tenure.

Steady......

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dont bother to wait. 2 weeks ago i asked autolink ubi, if i book now, the stock will only be delivered late nov, early dec.

so January 2016 is about time.

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after having a bad experience with a PI (those who have been following will know which PI im talking about), i went to buy a brand new mazda from eurokars....

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If you would like to bid for your COE, suggest you go to a dealer who will agree to sell you the car w/o coe before you bid. Given that you will get your coe w/o car body, chances are some dealers will not give you priority, and you won't want to be stuck in a situation with a coe (which expires in 6 months), and no dealer who will sell you your car.

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Anyway I believe the vezel omv is under 20k, mine was about 19+.�

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if you look back a few posts, i have been preaching to deal with PI first if intend to bid own COE but i was shot down by a few members.

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Vezel is hot and supply is very limited for now. depending on which situation you are in, you have to be on the correct side, else you wil lose more than gain.
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Thanks Bro. So I am actually leaning toward getting my own COE throught DBS ATM bidding and once COE secured to shop around PI for Vezel. I looked at Vezel before 6 months ago and I believe that time OMV for X model was about $23K, G = $20K. �With OMV stated below it should definitely be possible to get the Car alone for $49K, maybe less.

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go to this link and scan through the OMV. Jan to June 2015.

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http://www.onemotori...rket_value.html

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X model never cross the $20K mark.
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good suggestion. what is a fair (guide) price for X w/o COE? �The list price for X w COE $58K is $105K.�

�Jan to Mar 2015, Vezel standard accessories + servicing and warranty can be had for X/S� $46K/$49K (CEV $10k) without COE.

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My friend also say when he book during CNY period, the PI told him OMV is $24K plus.

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But when he collect the car, it states only $18k plus.

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PI tell him it is normal...it is due to exchange rate going down...

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Your friend PI BS'ed him.

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Since, when Vezel first appear on our shores, it hover around $17K+ to $19K+ for G and X model.

Lately can see S model cross the $20K mark.

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official LTA OMV are available easily from this link.

http://www.onemotori...rket_value.html
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dont bother to wait. 2 weeks ago i asked autolink ubi, if i book now, the stock will only be delivered late nov, early dec.
so January 2016 is about time.
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after having a bad experience with a PI (those who have been following will know which PI im talking about), i went to buy a brand new mazda from eurokars....

I dont like to wait. If cannot get, i just go to another dealer.
If cannot get, at most dont buy Vezel. No big deal lah....

I dont like to wait. If cannot get, i just go to another dealer.
If cannot get, at most dont buy Vezel. No big deal lah....

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go for ready stock with gtd 1 bid coe.

probably a few grand more.

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neither do i like to wait. mazda told me delivery next mth (less than 4 weeks wait)...shall see if they deliver on their promises.

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and totally agree with you...no big deal...so many B&B cars available in the market.....

Edited by Privacy, 27 July 2015 - 09:02 PM.

spoke to many PI dealers, seems like Vezels are overbooked, the wait can be as long as till Dec 2015 and that's xmas !!!

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Lol... its going to become the next popular car after civic and altis?

spoke to many PI dealers, seems like Vezels are overbooked, the wait can be as long as till Dec 2015 and that's xmas !!!
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Lol... its going to become the next popular car after civic and altis?

Hmm... Forseeing there will be lots of complaints from buyers when car unable to be delivered as scheduled... There bound to be PIs who over commit... Take care...

I was at Jack Cars today and was advised to get COE first cos if you book car and you fail to get COE in 6 months then lose deposit for car which makes sense to me. I believe getting a car without COE shouldn't be a problem.

Anyway, Jack car having promo. Slightly below $107K for X model with current COE. Details I dun know. Their 'body' price only is about $53K but should be negotiable.�

OMV for Vezel X now around $18K.

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Anyone seen this website. Buy directly from Japan. The next frontier :)

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http://cars.kkleads....da-vezel/prices

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dont bother to wait. 2 weeks ago i asked autolink ubi, if i book now, the stock will only be delivered late nov, early dec.
so January 2016 is about time.
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after having a bad experience with a PI (those who have been following will know which PI im talking about), i went to buy a brand new mazda from eurokars....

Bro, first time buying from PI...can PM me which one? Or direct me to the thread that chronicles ur pain? So that I can strike one PM off my list.

I was at Jack Cars today and was advised to get COE first cos if you book car and you fail to get COE in 6 months then lose deposit for car which makes sense to me. I believe getting a car without COE shouldn't be a problem.

Anyway, Jack car having promo. Slightly below $107K for X model with current COE. Details I dun know. Their 'body' price only is about $53K but should be negotiable.�

OMV for Vezel X now around $18K.

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Anyone seen this website. Buy directly from Japan. The next frontier :)

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http://cars.kkleads....da-vezel/prices

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i have a friend who got his coe in Jan. There was some production and shipment delay.�HIs TCOE expired without a car.

it is so unfortunate the timing is not working for him. between april to june (his last 2 months TCOE window) there was a mad scramble for demand to meet the new CEV banding deadline (before 1st July) registration. Also,there was a temporary stoppage to production line in Japan factory due to the improvised new version release. luck is not on his side. i feel sorry for him.

i have a friend who got his coe in Jan. There was some production and shipment delay.�HIs TCOE expired without a car.
it is so unfortunate the timing is not working for him. between april to june (his last 2 months TCOE window) there was a mad scramble for demand to meet the new CEV banding deadline (before 1st July) registration. Also,there was a temporary stoppage to production line in Japan factory due to the improvised new version release. luck is not on his side. i feel sorry for him.

Crazy to let it lapse instead of registering on other cars

Crazy to let it lapse instead of registering on other cars

he only wanted Vezel. He ordered S and willing to take any other variants or colour but there was no car to be registered.

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this deal was done with PI with price for body already agreed before own COE bidding.

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The timing was wrong. His PI was kind enough, last i heard, PI willing to absorbed the loss. Expecting his car in Aug/Sept now.�

I dont think if you bid COE first and then look for PI, you will be able to cover for the above unforseen circumstances.

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it would be different though when all the hype died down sometime later down the road, where stock is waiting for customers.

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I am sure for those who are already looking, will know the limited stock. Not those who assume they can get this particular ride at anytime.�

Edited by trajet2b, 28 July 2015 - 08:21 AM.

My fren just got her vezel from TLC. Waited 3 months but the nice chio vezel was nicely delivered fully furnished. She paid a slightly higher premium than the rest of the PIs though but she said she can sleep better. Haha.

My fren just got her vezel from TLC. Waited 3 months but the nice chio vezel was nicely delivered fully furnished. She paid a slightly higher premium than the rest of the PIs though but she said she can sleep better. Haha.

Its all very subjective. timing (right place and right time) plays a part too.

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one of my friend got it within a month. he was fortunate PI got ready stock in dec last year.

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my other friend, got it it within 2 months. mine, same company got it in 3 months. some got it in 4 months.

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We do not pay premium though. All same scheme fixed body price + own COE bidding. �

Edited by trajet2b, 28 July 2015 - 09:04 AM.

Oh own coe bidding.... I think my fren had the coe bidding bidded with the PI.
Premium probably comes from the guaranteed coe bidding, a few k more.

Agree on right time right place.

I only know that white and black vezel are super popular, waiting time could be very long!

Oh own coe bidding.... I think my fren had the coe bidding bidded with the PI.
Premium probably comes from the guaranteed coe bidding, a few k more.

Agree on right time right place.

I only know that white and black vezel are super popular, waiting time could be very long!

what i am trying to say is cannot based on previous delivery timings as it depends on the situation for those who did not pay premium.

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of course there are those Pi that can deliver consistently, such as Hup Long ( i am not affiliated with them) but their pricing is not very competitive.�

Oh own coe bidding.... I think my fren had the coe bidding bidded with the PI.
Premium probably comes from the guaranteed coe bidding, a few k more.

Agree on right time right place.

I only know that white and black vezel are super popular, waiting time could be very long!

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I know white is popular, but 3-4 weeks ago when I started looking through many PI. Most of them do not have ready stocks. And for those who have, is black. And I check with few of them, black is the slowest model as compared to maroon, blue, silver. lol

spoke to many PI dealers, seems like Vezels are overbooked, the wait can be as long as till Dec 2015 and that's xmas !!!

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Lol... its going to become the next popular car after civic and altis?

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Vezel is the new apple (it rhymes too!)

With COE heading south, coupled with more COEs coming out for the rest of the year, it will not be surprising that people who can afford to change cars and want a value-for-money car will be rushing into the market, and Vezel is probably going to end up being the best-selling car for this year at least. I was at Turf City last week, and one particular PI had more than 15 Vezels awaiting delivery. I can only imagine the demand for this car to be alot more from now till Christmas.�

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Depending on how much more you want to pay for earlier delivery, bookings for Vezel from now should easily be a 4 month wait (I waited for 3 months when I booked it in Jan). But as alot of you mentioned, go to those more reputable PIs who have a good track record of punctual delivery, and you can sleep better knowing you won't be subjected to the tons of bulls*it they give you (such as car still at port, LTA not clearing inspection test, among others) I believe there was a list of Vezel owners who indicated who they booked from, you can use that as a gauge of whether the PI has been reputable.�

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For those of you who have booked and are waiting, be patient and I hope you get your car soon. It is one lovely ride.� [inlove]

I think if the price is right & affordable by u, u shouldn't wait liao... coz everybody will have the same mindset, wanting to wait coe heading south.. waiting for prices slashed etc.. by then, the cycle begins again... everybody rushing to buy & end up you might not also get it... unless, you willing to pay super premium prices, & of cos by then, it defeated the purpose of you waiting till then to book le...

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just my 2 & half cents tot... lol...

Potential buyers, forget about those PI that are trying to pull a fast one on you.

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Some of their tricks (not limiting to below since they are very 'creative' [scholar] �):

- charging admin fee, hidden cost, shipment cost from Japan, custom clearance cost

- extra deposit, 7% GST, inspection cost,IU cost,�

- full upfront payment (even before car inspection....sign of cash-flow issue? or trying to run?), ultra low selling price (too good to be true),

- agree with everything you want (especially at no extra cost)

BEWARE...... :excl:

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'Clean & honest' PI typically adopt following strategies:

1) Some PI will only go book with Japan when they secure your COE (after collected your $10k deposit).....then tell you to wait.

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2) Some PI will gather all their buyers & allocate their ready stock (or coming shipment) based on selling price. Meaning that if your deal with them offers better profit margin, perhaps you can get your car earlier than your friend that book with same PI but at lower profit margin to PI. So it is a allocation game.

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3) Some PI will go ahead and order from Japan first (seeing strong buying trend for Vezel), predetermine the 'expected' colour first and try selling you the colour they have (typically: black , white). Their selling point is fast delivery & buyer fell safer when car is already 'available'. If you insist a different colour which they did not predict (or sold), they will say have to wait for next shipment from Japan.

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But 1 thing is sure on PI's mind: Lower the risk & maximum profit

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Disclaimer: I'm not PI....I'm just a proud Vezel owner! [:p] � [thumbsup]

I booked mine last week, estimated delivery Nov/Dec.

I don't mine waiting since they have lock a price till Dec with my current car (I'm 3rd owner) which I think it's a good price.

And I insisted that the SA to include the delivery date must not be after Dec 2015. (Not sure whether it works) lol.

I'm a 1st-timer to buy from PI.

Hi,

whats is the differences in equipment level between Vezel Hybrid X and Z? �Thanks for sharing.

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�the PI in the hot seat now delay 7-8 bids. previously bid for show to my friends only, following bid didn't bid. if had bidded following one at same price, wud have gotten. now sitting on 8k paper loss. PI pocket full sum as additional profit. this 8k is more dan profit margin of the car.

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beware of no or low coe deals

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cheers

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vezel omv was never 24k

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X is abt 18k plus

S is abt 19k plus

Z is abt 22-23k plus

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improved version with new cevs table...

X is 10k cevs

S is 5k cevs to start with ( waiting to see dealers show they can achieve 10k cevs)

Z is 10k cevs

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now hybrid X getting popular.

wonder if trajet2b bro have any info on hybrid X if can achieve 15k cevs

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Hi,

whats is the differences in equipment level between Vezel Hybrid X and Z? �Thanks for sharing.

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You can try refer to this�http://www.honda.co....ipment_list.pdf

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It's in japanese, but you can just copy the text and google translate it� [laugh]

Wonder all the new vezels delivery from July 2015 onwards are the new improved version or the old one? And whats the difference? :)

Had booked my Vezel X early July. PI say can collect Early Sep. But no confirmation..hiaz [rolleyes]

Wonder all the new vezels delivery from July 2015 onwards are the new improved version or the old one? And whats the difference? :)

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I got a chance to sit on the "improved" X model in showroom. Only difference can see is after power on, "ion" is shown on the display

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Besides that,

improved suspension: never got chance to test driver old Vezel or improved version, how to tell?

UV cut window: cannot really tell the difference by naked eyes. But SE says reading will be different under inspection tool

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So to summarize, essentially no difference to me

Wonder all the new vezels delivery from July 2015 onwards are the new improved version or the old one? And whats the difference? :)

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It should be the new improved version, but better confirm with your PI.

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New Improved Model �comes with following if i'm not wrong:

Soften Rear Suspension
99% Anti UV Windows
Sharp Plasma Cluster Ion A/C

According to some of the reviews on vezel driving experience, previously the suspension abit tight or hard which now is much better.

Edited by Akszaksz, 28 July 2015 - 01:52 PM.

Here is an update on the bicycle loading capacity inside the Vezel. This means that you do not need to load the bikes above on the roof or outside the car.

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- It's capable of fitting in 1 non folded 20 inch kids MTB and 1 folded 20 inch adult bicycle. only 1 seat in 2nd row folded down. other 2nd row seat remain up to seat 1 adult and 1 child or 2 children. front row seats driver and one adult. total of 4 passengers �+ 2 bicycles. This is good enough for me.

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- I managed to put in 1 non foldable Raleigh Rowdy 20 inch kids mountain bike ( folding the 2nd row back seat behind the driver down flat) plus one 20 inch folded Vert bicycle in standing position and secured with bicycle rope hooks to the headrest of the remaining 2nd row seats that are not folded.

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Thought i would add the dimensions here of the Vezel for easy reference.

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http://www.honda.co....014/shanai.html

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http://www.honda.co....14/noriori.html

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I got a chance to sit on the "improved" X model in showroom. Only difference can see is after power on, "ion" is shown on the display

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Besides that,

improved suspension: never got chance to test driver old Vezel or improved version, how to tell?

UV cut window: cannot really tell the difference by naked eyes. But SE says reading will be different under inspection tool

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So to summarize, essentially no difference to me

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specifically on the UV cut windows, I saw the attachment many pages back on the UV & IR specs for the�improved version's�windows.

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but how much improvement is it from the original version? ie what are the specs for the original version's windows?

Checked with a few long timers PIs. Earliest stocks available September-November.

110 - 112k for guaranteed COE x model improved version.

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specifically on the UV cut windows, I saw the attachment many pages back on the UV & IR specs for the�improved version's�windows.
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but how much improvement is it from the original version? ie what are the specs for the original version's windows?

Bro something's no need to be so scientific and quantifiable in life ;)

Let this slip by as Art ;)

I have also decided on a Vezel.

Just whether to buy now or January 2016 when my wife's insurance hits 30%disc.
Also becos COE is coming off anyway so no rush.

Looking for a reliable House that can take in my wife's Sep 2008 Mazda 2 at fair price and choot a black or blue Vezel, with genuine leather seats and V-cool and sunroof?
Also pay full cash or if worse come to worse, minimum loan over minimum tenure.

Steady......

Similarly the trade in will also drop if coe drop though not 1:1...

Bro something's no need to be so scientific and quantifiable in life ;)

Let this slip by as Art ;)

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hahaha just curious..

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if there are improvements, need to know wat are the improvements mah..

Can I ask those who drive similar model of this big car:

The tyres size is it 17' and is difference from normal sedan car?

How much for the tyre per piece ?

Can I ask those who drive similar model of this big car:

The tyres size is it 17' and is difference from normal sedan car?

How much for the tyre per piece ?

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17" tyre price from $150 to $600,

subject to brand and profile,

Can I ask those who drive similar model of this big car:

The tyres size is it 17' and is difference from normal sedan car?

How much for the tyre per piece ?

Each piece of 17" tyre should be about $45.

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http://www.mycarforu...d&product=90558

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17" tyre price from $150 to $600,

subject to brand and profile,

Wahhh...so expensive....you kana carrot already...

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New branded tyre can also get from $100 only..

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http://www.mycarforu...d&product=83959

Edited by Imac, 29 July 2015 - 10:04 AM.

Each piece of 17" tyre should be about $45.

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http://www.mycarforu...d&product=90558

Wahhh...so expensive....you kana carrot already...

China brand: Westlake 2nd hand tyre,

do you dare to use?

China brand: Westlake 2nd hand tyre,

do you dare to use?

They are actually not too bad..

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It is Ranked No 1 in China for tyre manufacturing.

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http://www.westlaket...au/default.html

Edited by Imac, 29 July 2015 - 10:14 AM.

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17" tyre price from $150 to $600,
subject to brand and profile,

Think no to china tyres ba...... Perhaps at most go for korean tyres, kumho is pretty ok and cheaper at abt $150 each. Understand for vezel and such suv, the profile is usually bigger for a more comfort ride.

This is unlike the sports car or saloon where ur profile can go as low as 30 or 35 with bigger rims.

Had booked my Vezel X early July. PI say can collect Early Sep. But no confirmation..hiaz

Was the expected delivery date stated in your signed quote and documents?
If it is then rest assured.

I noticed something, the more reputable dealers are quoting a higher price than the rest. Abt 5k to 6k more. A x mode can be $114k and s model $120k, wherea other deals can be 107k and 114k respectively. So....... Who will you buy from?

Considering the fact that a premium HRV is about $130k.

Anyone bought the hybrid X and got it delivered yet?

Checked with a few long timers PIs. Earliest stocks available September-November.

110 - 112k for guaranteed COE x model improved version.

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when did you check?

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the price now still so high? would have expected it to drop below 110k since the last 2 biddings

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17" tyre price from $150 to $600,

subject to brand and profile,

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which brand of tyre so ex ah $600...

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recently bought 235/45/18 PSS at $300 nia..

I have also decided on a Vezel.

Just whether to buy now or January 2016 when my wife's insurance hits 30%disc.
Also becos COE is coming off anyway so no rush.

Looking for a reliable House that can take in my wife's Sep 2008 Mazda 2 at fair price and choot a black or blue Vezel, with genuine leather seats and V-cool and sunroof?
Also pay full cash or if worse come to worse, minimum loan over minimum tenure.

Steady......

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No sunroof option for HRV/Vezel in Singapore lah.

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when did you check?
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the price now still so high? would have expected it to drop below 110k since the last 2 biddings

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checked after 2nd bid.

These are prices with guaranteed COE. All with audio control on steering wheel but some without tonneau cover. No GPS also. I know one PI Sept delivery confirm coz they stocking vezels at the moment. 110k guaranteed COE.

BTW, anyone who has changed their tyre & rims to 17"/18"/19", any idea how much the new stock tyre & rims can fetch for trade-in?

Hi Bros, may i know is red color leather seats suitable for blue vezel? did consider saddlebrown but scare wil stained easily. Any out there having blue vezel with red color leather seat or saddlebrown color? can share the pic?

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