mycarforum: Honda Vezel part 43

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Yah your mileage may vary, I don't think I pushed for more stuff enough but comparing my PI's offer across the 4 other PIs I went to, theirs were the best. Freebie is up to each individual to ask for more. To me the leather seats, bluetooth and audio control were a must, the rest, up to you to decide if you wanna push for it. I intend to buy my own car camera and after pushing the car dealer who said he don't carry the car cam brand I want, it also wasn't a deal breaker for me.�

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Loan and insurance usually depends on PI. Either 1.98% or 2.28%. The PIs also insist you have to take the 60% loan so that they can earn abit of what you would have paid the bank as interest, but in any case I aim to repay the lump sum with some early repayment penalty once it is possible.�

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Usually car insurance and road tax not included in the package, the PI will help you source for 3-4 quotes to choose, then you pay the remainder of your DP + insurance on the day you collect your ride.

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agree.. my loan was 2.28pct but i loan min sum only so i chin chai..intend to fully pay off end of 2 yrs.

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Road tax usually included also i think.. What's the brand of recording cam you're looking for?

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my HU is Pioneer 6750BT, is it good?

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I have already updated my name in the list last week :p heehee......

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bro, you sure 6750BT is correct? can't find it on multimedia receivers page of pioneer.com.sg website.� There is a CD receiver DEH-X6750BT though...

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agree.. my loan was 2.28pct but i loan min sum only so i chin chai..intend to fully pay off end of 2 yrs.

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Road tax usually included also i think.. What's the brand of recording cam you're looking for?

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Looking at Thinkware F550, and the rear camera, about 430USD on amazon. Haven't seen it on sale locally.

bro, you sure 6750BT is correct? can't find it on multimedia receivers page of pioneer.com.sg website.� There is a CD receiver DEH-X6750BT though...

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�isit AVH-X5750BT? �retail is at $899, now many places discount given at ard $699

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or AVH-X8650BT? retail at $1199, after discount i saw $899.

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But usually if our PIs buy from installer, is even lower cost for them.

My agent just informed me that my car has cleared the VITAS check! Yay
should be able to collect by this week! Waiting to install the leather seat and audio control!
Window Visors, side, front and back spoilers have been installed! Sporty look!

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My agent just informed me that my car has cleared the VITAS check! Yay
should be able to collect by this week! Waiting to install the leather seat and audio control!
Window Visors, side, front and back spoilers have been installed! Sporty look!

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Swee lah. The car looks really good with side step installed.

Any bro stay at jurong west or Uppe Thomson?Have to meet up to study the vibration sounds.I have a neighbour driving vezel and we parked besides each other. But, just unable to meet him.

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i live in the upper thomson area and can meet up�

My agent just informed me that my car has cleared the VITAS check! Yay
should be able to collect by this week! Waiting to install the leather seat and audio control!
Window Visors, side, front and back spoilers have been installed! Sporty look!

Swee! Very few red cars so far. Very nice!

I am new here and is planning to order a vezel x model from Leco prestige at Turf City.� Anyone here has any feedbacks on Leco?� I understand that quite a number of owners bought from them and I trust that they are the more reputable one?� I was told that I need to put a deposit of 20K and is that the norm?� Any feedback or things that I should ask or lookout for would be greatly appreciated.... :)�
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I booked from Leco Prestige but what I like about their service was that they did not push the sale. They shared their experience and knowledge about where the COE is heading plus they offered me the best trade-in deal for my Wish among all the other PIs.

But best if you shop around to best understand what you need and can get. I went to 4 different PIs before deciding on the Vezel at Leco Prestige.

I booked from Leco Prestige but what I like about their service was that they did not push the sale. They shared their experience and knowledge about where the COE is heading plus they offered me the best trade-in deal for my Wish among all the other PIs.

But best if you shop around to best understand what you need and can get. I went to 4 different PIs before deciding on the Vezel at Leco Prestige.

Could you share where the COE is heading bro :)

My agent just informed me that my car has cleared the VITAS check! Yay
should be able to collect by this week! Waiting to install the leather seat and audio control!
Window Visors, side, front and back spoilers have been installed! Sporty look!

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bro what is a front spoiler?

Could you share where the COE is heading bro :)

Well we are hoping it heads down! My rebate is at $60k, so anything lower is good news. But it will probably not stay down for long.

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Glad to see bro/sis helping around each other :)
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Thanks! Will meet up to discuss more:)

My agent just informed me that my car has cleared the VITAS check! Yay
should be able to collect by this week! Waiting to install the leather seat and audio control!
Window Visors, side, front and back spoilers have been installed! Sporty look!

seems like all the gadgets are up alredy! argh..jealous....nice nice nice!!!

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bro what is a front spoiler?

the spoiler that is in front..

front and rear bumper add-ons

My agent just informed me that my car has cleared the VITAS check! Yay
should be able to collect by this week! Waiting to install the leather seat and audio control!
Window Visors, side, front and back spoilers have been installed! Sporty look!

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Hi Bro,

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You got your car from HL? I saw similar car when i was at HL show room this afternoon.....

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Btw. anyone can share whether the car boot can fit in one golf stand bag?

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This is very important to me as this could be a deal breaker.... [smallcry]

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Hi Bro,

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You got your car from HL? I saw similar car when i was at HL show room this afternoon.....

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Btw. anyone can share whether the car boot can fit in one golf stand bag?

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This is very important to me as this could be a deal breaker....

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It can fit one gold stand bag provided you put one of the back seat down then you shoud be able to fit it in.

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It can fit one gold stand bag provided you put one of the back seat down then you shoud be able to fit it in.

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In that case I'll give it a pass as I normally ferry my family of four with my golf bag inside my car (24x7)......

My agent just informed me that my car has cleared the VITAS check! Yay
should be able to collect by this week! Waiting to install the leather seat and audio control!
Window Visors, side, front and back spoilers have been installed! Sporty look!

Wow! Really look so much nicer with all the gadgets on, especially the side steps. So envious...

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In that case I'll give it a pass as I normally ferry my family of four with my golf bag inside my car (24x7)......

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Bro, don't cry. See the pics below.

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A picture is worth a thousand words. By the way, mine is a stuff bag. Supposedly, a bit larger than a stand bag.

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You decide whether to join the family or not. Don't let it slip thru your fingers. Cheers.� [nod]

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Just for sharing..
This figure can be deceiving, bro. Simple note is, when is the km noted mid-mark? The mid-mark do have a range, between "low-mid-high" of the mid-mark, it will still appear the "mid-mark". likewise the relative km mid-mal also will various. That's why it is always more accurate to do the manual calculation of using the km travelled divided by the volume of petrol topped up during next refill*.
* physics teacher taught "What goes in = What comes out".
So how much petrol you consume to travel that km is how much you gotta top up in the tank now..

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Yeah, I think so too, the 1st half move very slowly, but right after that i goes down faster, seems that the tank sensor is not so accurate, will top up in the next couple of days, and will check the overall consumption.

My agent just informed me that my car has cleared the VITAS check! Yay
should be able to collect by this week! Waiting to install the leather seat and audio control!
Window Visors, side, front and back spoilers have been installed! Sporty look!

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wow, nice!

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did the PI installed the side steps, need to top up?

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Bro, don't cry. See the pics below.

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A picture is worth a thousand words. By the way, mine is a stuff bag. Supposedly, a bit larger than a stand bag.

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You decide whether to join the family or not. Don't let it slip thru your fingers. Cheers.�

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Thank you, Pokadot!!� I was thinking of that question too, if the Vezel can accommodate 2 golf bags.� I suppose you need not remove your driver from your golf bag?� Will the second golf bag be able to stack on top of the first bag?

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Bro, don't cry. See the pics below.

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A picture is worth a thousand words. By the way, mine is a stuff bag. Supposedly, a bit larger than a stand bag.

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You decide whether to join the family or not. Don't let it slip thru your fingers. Cheers.�

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Will bring my golf stand bag to test it together with family.....

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Thanks Bro for the� [thumbsup] �pictures....

bro, the freebies they gave you are standard

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my fren yet to book, but for now verbally giving Pioneer AVH-X8650BT (high spec), solar films, 1yr free servicing drive in and drive out...plus all the rest that you have stated. Loan & Insurance allow to settle himself with his own contacts.

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ASK FOR MORE!!

bro, you need to let us know which PI & the SE contact of your friend lol

the spoiler that is in front..

front and rear bumper add-ons

Oh saw it now, not too obvious, the front underlip

Thank you, Pokadot!!� I was thinking of that question too, if the Vezel can accommodate 2 golf bags.� I suppose you need not remove your driver from your golf bag?� Will the second golf bag be able to stack on top of the first bag?

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My driver is still in the bag. Stack one on top of the other will do. No problem. I hoped that assurance puts one of your concerns to rest, and make the vezel more attractive.

Does anyone know whether boot cover can be installed?

I want to buy but I have no idea who should I approach.

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You got your car from HL? I saw similar car when i was at HL show room this afternoon.....
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Btw. anyone can share whether the car boot can fit in one golf stand bag?
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This is very important to me as this could be a deal breaker....
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Hi bro,
Yes, I got the car from HL. It is the car u saw this afternoon. I think the photos did not do any justice to the car..... Nicer with actual viewing! Pretty happy with the overall look .... my agent said many viewers like it too! It came with mud guards too! Waiting too see how the interior will look like!
Hopefully, it is not too poisonous for all Vezel lovers here!

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did the PI installed the side steps, need to top up?

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I asked for it and my agent installed for me without top up.

Wow! Really look so much nicer with all the gadgets on, especially the side steps. So envious...

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Thank you for the compliment! I really like it too!

Anyone know how much to install the side step? Nice!

seems like all the gadgets are up alredy! argh..jealous....nice nice nice!!!

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You can install too! Pretty sure it will look nice (nicer) on your Vezel too!
Thanks for explaining what is a spoiler too ( I am not sure it is called a spoiler too ... hahaha).
Cheers!

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Swee lah. The car looks really good with side step installed.

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Glad that you like it! I like the sporty look!

Anyone know how much to install the side step? Nice!

Hi Bro,
My PI told me it is about $500. Do check with your PI or other shops that sell it!

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Yeah, I think so too, the 1st half move very slowly, but right after that i goes down faster, seems that the tank sensor is not so accurate, will top up in the next couple of days, and will check the overall consumption.

Bro, if I'm not wrong the fuel tank is never not a regular shape. The lower half for most, if not all cars, are always lesser than the first half.

Hi bro,
Yes, I got the car from HL. It is the car u saw this afternoon. I think the photos did not do any justice to the car..... Nicer with actual viewing! Pretty happy with the overall look .... my agent said many viewers like it too! It came with mud guards too! Waiting too see how the interior will look like!
Hopefully, it is not too poisonous for all Vezel lovers here!

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I asked for it and my agent installed for me without top up.

Hi Bro,
Thank you for the compliment! I really like it too!

Competition is getting tough. More and more freebees. Chong ahhh...

Competition is getting tough. More and more freebees. Chong ahhh...

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kinda suspect this is what maybe going into the price differences among different PI currently.

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the price differences for a similar model can account for a few thousand dollars currently, these are what maybe funding freebies... I may be wrong, just some analysis on linking the "X" to "Y" :)

my Pi quote me $300 for changing color of interior leather to tan leather color(no free customisation). any bro/sis experience that?

can i have a small request for bro/sis to share share their interior pic? comtemplating to change the color...backside itchy after seeing some tan leather interior before.

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Bro, don't cry. See the pics below.

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A picture is worth a thousand words. By the way, mine is a stuff bag. Supposedly, a bit larger than a stand bag.

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You decide whether to join the family or not. Don't let it slip thru your fingers. Cheers.�

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Now I know my bag can fit when I collect my ride in the near future....

my Pi quote me $300 for changing color of interior leather to tan leather color(no free customisation). any bro/sis experience that?

can i have a small request for bro/sis to share share their interior pic? comtemplating to change the color...backside itchy after seeing some tan leather interior before.

Got such thing one meh? My package includes leather seats of any colour of choice without top-up.� Suggest you go to other PI...

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A couple of pictures of saddle brown leather interior for your reference...

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Got such thing one meh? My package includes leather seats of any colour of choice without top-up.� Suggest you go to other PI...

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A couple of pictures of saddle brown leather interior for your reference...

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nice sia!!! Love it! I should be getting my car in 3-4 days time...
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my Pi quote me $300 for changing color of interior leather to tan leather color(no free customisation). any bro/sis experience that?
can i have a small request for bro/sis to share share their interior pic? comtemplating to change the color...backside itchy after seeing some tan leather interior before.

Original seat from Japan is fabric. Most of the PI will throw in leather seat (FOC or already cost in) for client, to suit Singaporean appetite. Since going to change, may as well let client choose/customise, client also happy. Frankly speaking, the cost of leather seats is a lot more then that ($300).. And as i said, mostly PI will include it in. UNLESS, it has already completed by your choice colour, then you ask to re-change again, then the freeby only complimentary for once. If then, the "co-pay" offer is a good 1..
But if it's your 1st time choosing the leather seat colour & your PI ask you to pay, whatever the amount, they are not honest.. Better reconsider your choice of PI.
Another possibility is, some other people had chosen the leather seats but decided don't want it & negotiated successfully from them. So, somehow someone if don't like THE leather colour gotta pay for changing it.. My guess..

Edited by wkloh, 10 February 2015 - 12:24 AM.

my HU is Pioneer 6750BT, is it good?

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You ownself upgrade again is it? 5750BT leh. haha.

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Edited by mistercars, 10 February 2015 - 12:56 AM.

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i sold my CU2 JDM honda accord 2.4L to buy a vezel becos it can sit passengers comfortably as compared to my ex-accord. size of car only matters a bit..e way they design e interior to be as utilitarian as possible is most impt

Just want to say Hi to all the Vezel driver. Seen a lot on the roads North East West South everywhere... Lol.. Very nice looking ride (almost an Vezel owner myself). cheers

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the price differences for a similar model can account for a few thousand dollars currently, these are what maybe funding freebies... I may be wrong, just some analysis on linking the "X" to "Y" :)

haha..remember our precedence.

50k for X Model (b4 Cat A COE)
53k for S Model (b4 Cat A COE)
56-58K for Z Model (b4 Cat B/ Cat E COE)

Standard Freebies:-
1) Leather seats
2) Entry level HU unit (eg AVH-X2650BT)
3) 3yrs warranty 100000 or 5yrs 120000
4) basic engine oil change servicing fixed below 150 including gst (cap viscosity at w30)
5) All models steering wheel volume etc button linked to HU.
6) Rebate level max 2k below last closing COE
7) Either no top up or to be fair to dealers, max cap 2k top up above last closing COE
8) reverse camera 2 sensors
9) Any i have missed bros/sis pls add in red

Freebies To be firmly requested/demanded/negotiated:-
{especially if taking full allowable loan and max allowable tenure}
1) upgrade to high spec HU (eg AVH-X8650BT or Appradio 4)
2) 3-in-1 Anti UV, Anti infrared, Anti shatter solar films
3) wireless mirrorlink function included with HU to link iphone or android
4) 1-2yr 100% free servicing package -manufacture listed viscosity branded engine oil of choice
5) paint protection sealant or paint protection film
6) High spec front & rear recording camera
7) other body kits and accessories
8) reverse n front parking camera and 4 sensors front + 4 sensors rear
9) any i have missed bros/sis pls add in red

*stay tuned for lagi more geng new precedence in the next week or 2, especially after nxt biddinf results.
**sorry to spoil mkt like that,a bit high on whisky, so a bit bolder than usual. still loads of profit to be made by worthy and effective dealers that focus on delivering more cars asap!
***still need to even consider buying HRV ?!?! serious? then might as well go for toyota altis ;0)

Edited by Rationalexuberance, 10 February 2015 - 01:36 AM.

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nice! this should be standard offering by PI hor?

my Pi quote me $300 for changing color of interior leather to tan leather color(no free customisation). any bro/sis experience that?
can i have a small request for bro/sis to share share their interior pic? comtemplating to change the color...backside itchy after seeing some tan leather interior before.

Bro, it might be quite possible if the so called almost tan leather seats are almost full leather. The current leather PI provided are just half leather. Anyway it all depends on the price you paid. If you pay more, you get more freebies. Eventually I rather get a lower price and get less freebies since most of the time the PI also mark up the freebies they give you. You may get it cheaper outside yourself. But of course the hassle free of having everything installed ready for u.

Edited by Andyngps, 10 February 2015 - 06:56 AM.

haha..remember our precedence.

50k for X Model (b4 Cat A COE)
53k for S Model (b4 Cat A COE)
56-58K for Z Model (b4 Cat B/ Cat E COE)

Standard Freebies:-
1) Leather seats
2) Entry level HU unit (eg AVH-X2650BT)
3) 3yrs warranty 100000 or 5yrs 120000
4) basic engine oil change servicing fixed below 150 including gst (cap viscosity at w30)
5) All models steering wheel volume etc button linked to HU.
6) Rebate level max 2k below last closing COE
7) Either no top up or to be fair to dealers, max cap 2k top up above last closing COE
8) reverse camera 2 sensors
9) Any i have missed bros/sis pls add in red

Freebies To be firmly requested/demanded/negotiated:-
{especially if taking full allowable loan and max allowable tenure}
1) upgrade to high spec HU (eg AVH-X8650BT or Appradio 4)
2) 3-in-1 Anti UV, Anti infrared, Anti shatter solar films
3) wireless mirrorlink function included with HU to link iphone or android
4) 1-2yr 100% free servicing package -manufacture listed viscosity branded engine oil of choice
5) paint protection sealant or paint protection film
6) High spec front & rear recording camera
7) other body kits and accessories
8) reverse n front parking camera and 4 sensors front + 4 sensors rear
9) any i have missed bros/sis pls add in red

*stay tuned for lagi more geng new precedence in the next week or 2, especially after nxt biddinf results.
**sorry to spoil mkt like that,a bit high on whisky, so a bit bolder than usual. still loads of profit to be made by worthy and effective dealers that focus on delivering more cars asap!
***still need to even consider buying HRV ?!?! serious? then might as well go for toyota altis ;0)Hi bro,

Hi bro, may i know how do you calculate the figures above, OMV+ARF+? Dun really understand how a 8K difference b/w X and Z model can account for more than 20k in price, when the COE diff is about 8k.
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I am considering vezel (S model) vs 1.2turbo QQ... Having a hard time... This is what i like about each car:

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Vezel

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1. Brand Honda (i am driving one now)

2. Price: about... 5k+ cheaper

3. 1.5 engine (more powerful)

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1.2QQ turbocharged

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1. Better equipment level�(so much better)

2. daylight running lights

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I am considering vezel (S model) vs 1.2turbo QQ... Having a hard time... This is what i like about each car:
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Vezel
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1. Brand Honda (i am driving one now)
2. Price: about... 5k+ cheaper
3. 1.5 engine (more powerful)
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Have you test drive both cars? Other than 5k price difference, do look at the road tax/insurance costs and also maintenance costs for both vehicles. This will let you know the actual costs, instead of looking at price alone.
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Do test drive both cars. And also look at the cost of maintaining the 2 vehicles (road tax, insurance, vehicle maintenance, etc) other than price alone.

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Tested 1.2QQ. sluggish during the take off. I believe Vezel should be better (where to test drive Vezel??)

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Both being Cat A, road tax should be similar, while insurance should not differ too much right? Vexel maybe slightly higher..

Hi guys!
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I am considering vezel (S model) vs 1.2turbo QQ... Having a hard time... This is what i like about each car:
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Vezel
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1. Brand Honda (i am driving one now)
2. Price: about... 5k+ cheaper

3. 1.5 engine (more powerful)
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1.2QQ turbocharged
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1. Better equipment level�(so much better)
2. daylight running lights
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Same dilemma as me. QQ for its lower road tax also but at 5-6k more ex. I'm leaning towards Vezel though for presumably better driving feel. I test drove the QQ. It was a little sluggish off the block which may not appeal to some. Turbo kicks in at rpm 2.5 and above thereabt.

haha..remember our precedence.

50k for X Model (b4 Cat A COE)
53k for S Model (b4 Cat A COE)
56-58K for Z Model (b4 Cat B/ Cat E COE)

Standard Freebies:-
1) Leather seats
2) Entry level HU unit (eg AVH-X2650BT)
3) 3yrs warranty 100000 or 5yrs 120000
4) basic engine oil change servicing fixed below 150 including gst (cap viscosity at w30)
5) All models steering wheel volume etc button linked to HU.
6) Rebate level max 2k below last closing COE
7) Either no top up or to be fair to dealers, max cap 2k top up above last closing COE
8) reverse camera 2 sensors
9) Any i have missed bros/sis pls add in red

Freebies To be firmly requested/demanded/negotiated:-
{especially if taking full allowable loan and max allowable tenure}
1) upgrade to high spec HU (eg AVH-X8650BT or Appradio 4)
2) 3-in-1 Anti UV, Anti infrared, Anti shatter solar films
3) wireless mirrorlink function included with HU to link iphone or android
4) 1-2yr 100% free servicing package -manufacture listed viscosity branded engine oil of choice
5) paint protection sealant or paint protection film
6) High spec front & rear recording camera
7) other body kits and accessories
8) reverse n front parking camera and 4 sensors front + 4 sensors rear
9) any i have missed bros/sis pls add in red

*stay tuned for lagi more geng new precedence in the next week or 2, especially after nxt biddinf results.
**sorry to spoil mkt like that,a bit high on whisky, so a bit bolder than usual. still loads of profit to be made by worthy and effective dealers that focus on delivering more cars asap!
***still need to even consider buying HRV ?!?! serious? then might as well go for toyota altis ;0)

I got majority, some slightly better while some unavailable, from your "std listings". And bits & pieces of those in your "additional listings". �And I am enjoying it..� [:)]

IMHO.. in biz, its about give a bit & take a bit for win-win on both sides... Client using hard earn money. SE also not making easy money. Sell too low kana scold by boss & sometimes pay from own commission. Sell too high kana scold by client & no commission & sometimes kana "suan". I feel baatuk-baatuk can la. Afterall, buying a ride is not just about $$$. Its also about service, delivery, communications, hazzle-free, ease of mind, comfortability & etc. That's why sometimes you hear people say that they have the money, but important they must feel "song" when they spent it. Such intengibles can only feel & appreciated & cannot be weigh on money scale. Sometimes we might have to give some to get some (even more).. Surely we can always find cheaper & better ones out there, over time, but we lose our family time hunting for those & also losing on the time of enjoying them while others already enjoying it,whom paying with a little bit more. So are we really gaining? � [rolleyes]

Just my sudden overflowing of emotional POV only.. � [:p]

Nevertheless, wish those who have yet to get their ride all the best in the negotiation. � [thumbsup]

went to sit at the rear of Qashqai last Friday, The moment im in there, i walk out without test driving. I just find that the rear is smaller than Vezel.�

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saw the boot as well, they have 2 "removable covers". somehow this make the boot look smaller and i find the "latch" for the cover to rest on, gets into the way if you intend to put golf bag. i dont know" didnt play golf :P

Hi guys!

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I am considering vezel (S model) vs 1.2turbo QQ... Having a hard time... This is what i like about each car:

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Vezel

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1. Brand Honda (i am driving one now)

2. Price: about... 5k+ cheaper

3. 1.5 engine (more powerful)

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1.2QQ turbocharged

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1. Better equipment level�(so much better)

2. daylight running lights

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How?? any advice?

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I have test drove 1.2QQ and I must admit that it is very competitive with Vezel. Below is my comments:

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Look wise: Both have nice�sporty look through Vezel has younger look and QQ more executive look!

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Cabin space: QQ wheelbase is 2646mm vs Vezel 2610mm. So QQ supposed to have slightly larger interior space. But Vezel has magic seat to make its cabin space big enough too.

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Power: Vezel wins with larger cc but QQ 1.2 turbo provide sufficient power too at SG road condition. However, it engine may struggle to push QQ above 130km/h if you travel at NS highway in MY.

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Equipment: QQ is better but it seems that the HU is not factory fitted and it is OEM one. Few customer complaint the quality of the HU if you refer to QQ forum topic. Hope Tan Chong has resolved the problem already. You can install high end HU for Vezel as you have already save 5K as it cheaper than QQ.

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After sales service: QQ definately wins as 5 years warranty and free service is provided. But for JDM Vezel, it should be reliable so no worry about its warranty.

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Suggest you go to test drive QQ and see any kind soul here allow you to test drive their Vezel and judge yourself [:p]

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Edited by IloveVezel, 10 February 2015 - 09:27 AM.

I got majority, some slightly better while some unavailable, from your "std listings". And bits & pieces of those in your "additional listings". �And I am enjoying it..�

IMHO.. in biz, its about give a bit & take a bit for win-win on both sides... Client using hard earn money. SE also not making easy money. Sell too low kana scold by boss & sometimes pay from own commission. Sell too high kana scold by client & no commission & sometimes kana "suan". I feel baatuk-baatuk can la. Afterall, buying a ride is not just about $$$. Its also about service, delivery, communications, hazzle-free, ease of mind, comfortability & etc. That's why sometimes you hear people say that they have the money, but important they must feel "song" when they spent it. Such intengibles can only feel & appreciated & cannot be weigh on money scale. Sometimes we might have to give some to get some (even more).. Surely we can always find cheaper & better ones out there, over time, but we lose our family time hunting for those & also losing on the time of enjoying them while others already enjoying it,whom paying with a little bit more. So are we really gaining? �

Just my sudden overflowing of emotional POV only.. �

Nevertheless, wish those who have yet to get their ride all the best in the negotiation. �

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Fully agree! I hope this list can help with fellow potential vezel owners have a better idea at a glance. Talking about negotiations, we buyers are at most times at the losing end. Also became emo when i saw someone feedback that SE ask him top up $$$ for leather seats. I think the SE too much.

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Actually for myself, i din ask for leather seats, only "leatherized" the door panels. Kept the original half fabric half leather colour scheme of the hybrid. Feels more authentic to me. In future i can always change leather seats by gg back to my PI for them to do for me at dealer price. They still have to consider my future wife's new ride, sure do for me hehe..i think..

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In fact i did not get most of those stuff in list 2, i added them there after speaking to bros who had good deals. If i had this list to help me b4 my purchase would have asked for at least 1 or 2 items more. Then again each of our buying scenarios are different. I am glad my dealer managed to consign sell off my prev ride at 10k above his trade in price, and 16k above the next best trade in price by other dealers who obviously thinks i'm a carrot head. And i got my ride within 1 week! To me, non-usage of car is a big inconvenience especially if i have to run a few appts in a day stretching from east to west, north to south hehe.�

I got majority, some slightly better while some unavailable, from your "std listings". And bits & pieces of those in your "additional listings". �And I am enjoying it..�

IMHO.. in biz, its about give a bit & take a bit for win-win on both sides... Client using hard earn money. SE also not making easy money. Sell too low kana scold by boss & sometimes pay from own commission. Sell too high kana scold by client & no commission & sometimes kana "suan". I feel baatuk-baatuk can la. Afterall, buying a ride is not just about $$$. Its also about service, delivery, communications, hazzle-free, ease of mind, comfortability & etc. That's why sometimes you hear people say that they have the money, but important they must feel "song" when they spent it. Such intengibles can only feel & appreciated & cannot be weigh on money scale. Sometimes we might have to give some to get some (even more).. Surely we can always find cheaper & better ones out there, over time, but we lose our family time hunting for those & also losing on the time of enjoying them while others already enjoying it,whom paying with a little bit more. So are we really gaining? �

Just my sudden overflowing of emotional POV only.. �

Nevertheless, wish those who have yet to get their ride all the best in the negotiation. �

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Agreed, it's up to the consumer (us) to do our own homework and find out what is a good price to pay for a car we are looking to buy, if you feel like you are getting a good package with the amount of money you pay, I think that is good enough.

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You can try to squeeze as much out of the dealer as you want, but I think there is a bottom line for every dealer as they have their own margins and profits to meet also. I will take a low price over freebies any day. Most importantly, think the whole experience of buying and owning the new car should be a good one,�

Hi Goh,

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I have test drove 1.2QQ and I must admit that it is very competitive with Vezel. Below is my comments:

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Look wise: Both have nice�sporty look through Vezel has younger look and QQ more executive look!

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Cabin space: QQ wheelbase is 2646mm vs Vezel 2610mm. So QQ supposed to have slightly larger interior space. But Vezel has magic seat to make its cabin space big enough too.

�

Power: Vezel wins with larger cc but QQ 1.2 turbo provide sufficient power too at SG road condition. However, it engine may struggle to push QQ above 130km/h if you travel at NS highway in MY.

�

Equipment: QQ is better but it seems that the HU is not factory fitted and it is OEM one. Few customer complaint the quality of the HU if you refer to QQ forum topic. Hope Tan Chong has resolved the problem already. You can install high end HU for Vezel as you have already save 5K as it cheaper than QQ.

�

After sales service: QQ definately wins as 5 years warranty and free service is provided. But for JDM Vezel, it should be reliable so no worry about its warranty.

�

Suggest you go to test drive QQ and see any kind soul here allow you to test drive their Vezel and judge yourself

�

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Given that COE has dropped and hopefully will continue to drop further, do consider the Hybrid as well. Before shunning away by being afraid of upkeep costs and this and that, should do more research.

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My firm belief that Hybrid should soon be selling 10-13k above X model in the near future, if not, then we should depress price!! If we use the $$ difference given existing COE, we will be getting much more car than the money we pay. The amount of default accessories the hybrid has also will let use save time and effort hunting for them, which also costs money.

�

Anyone likes technology can google Honda i-dcd to find out more. Put the Hybrid performance beside QQ, be it 2L or 1.2L turbo, totally no fight.�

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QQ wise, i love it too, if i have the moolahs and COE is less than 10k, i would have both cars haha. In fact i may buy the X-trail instead. Have a neighbour who bought a new hot red QQ. One word..SEXY!!! We like to park our cars near or facing each other, like a show down. And Nissan's new xtronic CVT is really the cream of the crop. The part i'm not happy about is when COE dropped abt 6k for Cat B, their price only dropped 3k. That's BULL!! From my perspective, AD is of the view that the market is still filled with carrot heads when it comes to cars, which unfortunately i do not disagree.

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Check this 0-100 clip on vezel hybrid Sports mode! Being someone who drives a 2.0L 240bhp turbo boxster and a 2.4L 200bhp ivtec K24 before, i am extremely impressed by the capabilities of this car! And together with Niltram bro, we're finding new feel and new tech each day. We're trying to gently cruise on full EV mode(battery powered electric motor) in carparks or small estates and campuses, we're getting well above 30km/l for the short trip itself. Overall i believe getting 18km/l FC is easy with normal driving, 70 city, 30 highway

Edited by Rationalexuberance, 10 February 2015 - 09:54 AM.

went to sit at the rear of Qashqai last Friday, The moment im in there, i walk out without test driving. I just find that the rear is smaller than Vezel.�

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saw the boot as well, they have 2 "removable covers". somehow this make the boot look smaller and i find the "latch" for the cover to rest on, gets into the way if you intend to put golf bag. i dont know" didnt play golf :P

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Same as me. I saw the rear seats sian half already and don't feel like test driving liao.

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Hope the Vezel is more spacious when I view it next time.

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Same as me. I saw the rear seats sian half already and don't feel like test driving liao.

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Hope the Vezel is more spacious when I view it next time.

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Bro, vezel confirmed more spacious!! I am 1.81m with a 50plus inch chest. I sit comfortably in the front seat as well as in the rear. Bought the car also becos of that, baby is on the way, i need a more spacious utilitarian vehicle. Looks small from the outside, but the interior space usage design is superb!

Edited by Rationalexuberance, 10 February 2015 - 09:58 AM.

Bro oxycover
Glad to see bro/sis helping around each other :)
5 praise point for you.
Btw, dun known bro LeeSt.

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Oh no problem don't mention it haha I can learn more about the car from her as well.

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Would also like to recommend Ray from Hup Long. He went out of the way to help me install the steering audio control and car was delivered much earlier than expected. Hup Long is also a direct importer (correct me if i'm wrong) so one of the better PIs around.

Original seat from Japan is fabric. Most of the PI will throw in leather seat (FOC or already cost in) for client, to suit Singaporean appetite. Since going to change, may as well let client choose/customise, client also happy. Frankly speaking, the cost of leather seats is a lot more then that ($300).. And as i said, mostly PI will include it in. UNLESS, it has already completed by your choice colour, then you ask to re-change again, then the freeby only complimentary for once. If then, the "co-pay" offer is a good 1..
But if it's your 1st time choosing the leather seat colour & your PI ask you to pay, whatever the amount, they are not honest.. Better reconsider your choice of PI.
Another possibility is, some other people had chosen the leather seats but decided don't want it & negotiated successfully from them. So, somehow someone if don't like THE leather colour gotta pay for changing it.. My guess..

Changing vezel interior to full leather upholstery is less than 500 for dealer price. The upholstery shop have to only earn a small margin becos they have large volume

Hi bro, may i know how do you calculate the figures above, OMV+ARF+? Dun really understand how a 8K difference b/w X and Z model can account for more than 20k in price, when the COE diff is about 8k.
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bro..a very simple.but big question hehe. ltr when i reach office i try to do a detailed breakdown to answer ur qn via PM. or u wanna PM me 1st also can. in short for now,the 8k diff is to acct for OMV,ARF and warranty.

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Given that COE has dropped and hopefully will continue to drop further, do consider the Hybrid as well. Before shunning away by being afraid of upkeep costs and this and that, should do more research.

�

My firm belief that Hybrid should soon be selling 10-13k above X model in the near future, if not, then we should depress price!! If we use the $$ difference given existing COE, we will be getting much more car than the money we pay. The amount of default accessories the hybrid has also will let use save time and effort hunting for them, which also costs money.

�

Anyone likes technology can google Honda i-dcd to find out more. Put the Hybrid performance beside QQ, be it 2L or 1.2L turbo, totally no fight.�

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QQ wise, i love it too, if i have the moolahs and COE is less than 10k, i would have both cars haha. In fact i may buy the X-trail instead. Have a neighbour who bought a new hot red QQ. One word..SEXY!!! We like to park our cars near or facing each other, like a show down. And Nissan's new xtronic CVT is really the cream of the crop. The part i'm not happy about is when COE dropped abt 6k for Cat B, their price only dropped 3k. That's BULL!! From my perspective, AD is of the view that the market is still filled with carrot heads when it comes to cars, which unfortunately i do not disagree.

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Check this 0-100 clip on vezel hybrid Sports mode! Being someone who drives a 2.0L 240bhp turbo boxster and a 2.4L 200bhp ivtec K24 before, i am extremely impressed by the capabilities of this car! And together with Niltram bro, we're finding new feel and new tech each day. We're trying to gently cruise on full EV mode(battery powered electric motor) in carparks or small estates and campuses, we're getting well above 30km/l for the short trip itself. Overall i believe getting 18km/l FC is easy with normal driving, 70 city, 30 highway

WoW, it seem that Vezel hybrid can achieve 0 - 100Km/H within 7 secs� [drivingcar] � [thumbsup] ��Can considered as performance car liao [sweatdrop] �But it also seems than the engine has been modified [sly]

Edited by IloveVezel, 10 February 2015 - 10:33 AM.

WoW, it seem that Vezel hybrid can achieve 0 - 100Km/H within 7 secs � �Can considered as performance car liao

on paper it is 8.5sec. So far my fren's tried even with some cargo and passengers also hit ard 8plus sec. i am still running in my car haha

on paper it is 8.5sec. So far my fren's tried even with some cargo and passengers also hit ard 8plus sec. i am still running in my car haha

http://www.automobil...zel_hybrid.html

WoW, it seem that Vezel hybrid can achieve 0 - 100Km/H within 7 secs� � ��Can considered as performance car liao �But it also seems than the engine has been modified

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Seems like the engine has been modified...haha..but very fast...

http://www.automobil...zel_hybrid.html

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wow bro the hybrid Z is really silent and fast.

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Would like to share my story also. In another 2 days i'll be changing from my FD2R to a Vezel X. Should have gone for the Z but but due to budget constraints. Past 2 cars were manual transmission and each ride get more harsher in every change. Recently also getting tired and wanna just sit back and drive slower and also give my left leg a break.

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Last time it's just chasing for higher bhp and whp but now i think a comfy and nice ride is more rewarding to me.�Maybe age getting on me..lolz. but sure enough i'm gonna missed the FD2R's roar.

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Seems like the engine has been modified...haha..but very fast...

shiok hor..

its not modified..the added power comes from the electric motor. hybrid nowadays are geared towards economical plus performance. Prev IMA for civic hybrid is boring.

just calculated,based on latest 98 fuel prices after discount, my 11.5km/l on the accord vs min of 18km/l on the hybrid, savings of at least $1450/yr. Add on to rd tax savings of $990/yr. Servicing on less EO also have savings..shiokness

Added savings can substantially offset problems with battery etc..and with added fun!! can't complain
The new tech on the latest Accord Hybrid and Accord Plug In is even more powerful. If only Honda can be crazy enough to plonk the engine and motor of the accord hybrid into the vezel. God Mode!!! 60km/l no proble. FC wise easily 40km/l and above!

Edited by Rationalexuberance, 10 February 2015 - 01:33 PM.

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wow bro the hybrid Z is really silent and fast.
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Would like to share my story also. In another 2 days i'll be changing from my FD2R to a Vezel X. Should have gone for the Z but but due to budget constraints. Past 2 cars were manual transmission and each ride get more harsher in every change. Recently also getting tired and wanna just sit back and drive slower and also give my left leg a break.
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Last time it's just chasing for higher bhp and whp but now i think a comfy and nice ride is more rewarding to me.�Maybe age getting on me..lolz. but sure enough i'm gonna missed the FD2R's roar.

havent owned nor driven an FN2 b4,but sat in a well driven one..instant love for the REAL VTEC!!

1 Extra Set of Vezel AutoFold Mirror Module SGD$100 to go!� [grin]

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Folds when lock and unfolds when unlocked.

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Let me know if interested.

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Thank you.

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Given that COE has dropped and hopefully will continue to drop further, do consider the Hybrid as well. Before shunning away by being afraid of upkeep costs and this and that, should do more research.

�

My firm belief that Hybrid should soon be selling 10-13k above X model in the near future, if not, then we should depress price!! If we use the $$ difference given existing COE, we will be getting much more car than the money we pay. The amount of default accessories the hybrid has also will let use save time and effort hunting for them, which also costs money.

�

Anyone likes technology can google Honda i-dcd to find out more. Put the Hybrid performance beside QQ, be it 2L or 1.2L turbo, totally no fight.�

�

QQ wise, i love it too, if i have the moolahs and COE is less than 10k, i would have both cars haha. In fact i may buy the X-trail instead. Have a neighbour who bought a new hot red QQ. One word..SEXY!!! We like to park our cars near or facing each other, like a show down. And Nissan's new xtronic CVT is really the cream of the crop. The part i'm not happy about is when COE dropped abt 6k for Cat B, their price only dropped 3k. That's BULL!! From my perspective, AD is of the view that the market is still filled with carrot heads when it comes to cars, which unfortunately i do not disagree.

�

Check this 0-100 clip on vezel hybrid Sports mode! Being someone who drives a 2.0L 240bhp turbo boxster and a 2.4L 200bhp ivtec K24 before, i am extremely impressed by the capabilities of this car! And together with Niltram bro, we're finding new feel and new tech each day. We're trying to gently cruise on full EV mode(battery powered electric motor) in carparks or small estates and campuses, we're getting well above 30km/l for the short trip itself. Overall i believe getting 18km/l FC is easy with normal driving, 70 city, 30 highway

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Sharing the 1st tank FC shot. Finished the 1st partial tank after taking delivery of the car. Filled to the brim of 40L zhun zhun, so far about 1 week of use. Still at about 700km, not fully run in yet. Saturday scheduled for 1st servicing. Will be sharing manual calculation (a habit i have everytime i pump) soon. From the looks of it, i hope can get 750km or more for full tank. Second half of the fuel gauge for most cars usually fall at a faster rate.

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Edited by Rationalexuberance, 10 February 2015 - 03:10 PM.

Hi bro, may i know how do you calculate the figures above, OMV+ARF+? Dun really understand how a 8K difference b/w X and Z model can account for more than 20k in price, when the COE diff is about 8k.
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Can compare car cost as such...i may be wrong but this is what i gather from LTA, not including inspection fees.

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Assuming Vezel S Model:

OMV = $20347 (got this from onemotoring Dec 2014 data)

Excise Duty =�$4069.40�(20% of OMV)

GST =�$1709.15�(7% of OMV + Excise Duty)

Reg Fee =�$140

ARF=�$10486�(after 10000 CEV rebate)

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Total gross costs b4 inspection & misc = $36751.55

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Assuming Vezel Hybrid:

OMV=�$23000�

Excise Duty =�$4600

GST =�$1932

Reg Fee =�$140

ARF =�$9200�(after 15000 CEV rebate)

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Total gross costs b4 inspection & misc =�$38872.00

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In a strict sense, other than higher warranty costs, Hybrid should not cost alot more than X or S model.

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So if we talk about 50k for car body X model, gross profit is decent. Same for the rest.

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Then of course running a business with showroom to show credibility etc, good feeling during the shopping process so we dun mind paying few k more for the aircon..all these need money, can factor in to the cost of car and freebies.�

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Add on to commission earned from loan and insurance..nett nett profit margin estimated at $10k for an entry level car.

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My numbers may totally be wrong, anyone can correct me or add on pls do so. Much much more to learn. In future we do group buy!! Haha, �import cars our own, or buy from importer. Throw out a 3-5k commission per car, everything settled, just need a date and venue of delivery for car storage b4 inspection.

Hi Goh,

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I have test drove 1.2QQ and I must admit that it is very competitive with Vezel. Below is my comments:

�

Look wise: Both have nice�sporty look through Vezel has younger look and QQ more executive look!

�

Cabin space: QQ wheelbase is 2646mm vs Vezel 2610mm. So QQ supposed to have slightly larger interior space. But Vezel has magic seat to make its cabin space big enough too.

�

Power: Vezel wins with larger cc but QQ 1.2 turbo provide sufficient power too at SG road condition. However, it engine may struggle to push QQ above 130km/h if you travel at NS highway in MY.

�

Equipment: QQ is better but it seems that the HU is not factory fitted and it is OEM one. Few customer complaint the quality of the HU if you refer to QQ forum topic. Hope Tan Chong has resolved the problem already. You can install high end HU for Vezel as you have already save 5K as it cheaper than QQ.

�

After sales service: QQ definately wins as 5 years warranty and free service is provided. But for JDM Vezel, it should be reliable so no worry about its warranty.

�

Suggest you go to test drive QQ and see any kind soul here allow you to test drive their Vezel and judge yourself

�

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I did not get to test drive the 1.2T but on 2L, so I cannot say much about the engine. However I would agree that running the 1.2T in MY highway would be a challenge not to mentioned going up Genting or Cameron Highlands.

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Comparing to a sedan, the SUV rear seat is very upright and makes you sit up straight, not relax mode.�In QQ, the rear seats are really straight up. We tried to adjust the angle but was max.�Vezel is�much better but still lose to a sedan. I also understand�1.2T has 5 years warranty but only�first 3 servicing FOC, unless they upgrade the package recently. Only the 2L has 5 years free servicing.�

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Can compare car cost as such...i may be wrong but this is what i gather from LTA, not including inspection fees.

�

Assuming Vezel S Model:

OMV = $20347 (got this from onemotoring Dec 2014 data)

Excise Duty =�$4069.40�(20% of OMV)

GST =�$1709.15�(7% of OMV + Excise Duty)

Reg Fee =�$140

ARF=�$10486�(after 10000 CEV rebate)

�

Total gross costs b4 inspection & misc = $36751.55

�

Assuming Vezel Hybrid:

OMV=�$23000�

Excise Duty =�$4600

GST =�$1932

Reg Fee =�$140

ARF =�$9200�(after 15000 CEV rebate)

�

Total gross costs b4 inspection & misc =�$38872.00

�

In a strict sense, other than higher warranty costs, Hybrid should not cost alot more than X or S model.

�

So if we talk about 50k for car body X model, gross profit is decent. Same for the rest.

�

Then of course running a business with showroom to show credibility etc, good feeling during the shopping process so we dun mind paying few k more for the aircon..all these need money, can factor in to the cost of car and freebies.�

�

Add on to commission earned from loan and insurance..nett nett profit margin estimated at $10k for an entry level car.

�

My numbers may totally be wrong, anyone can correct me or add on pls do so. Much much more to learn. In future we do group buy!! Haha, �import cars our own, or buy from importer. Throw out a 3-5k commission per car, everything settled, just need a date and venue of delivery for car storage b4 inspection.

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Does anyone know the average basic pay of the SE?

Looking for a good car groomer for paint protection? Exclude ceramic protection...not within my budget

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I did not get to test drive the 1.2T but on 2L, so I cannot say much about the engine. However I would agree that running the 1.2T in MY highway would be a challenge not to mentioned going up Genting or Cameron Highlands.

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Comparing to a sedan, the SUV rear seat is very upright and makes you sit up straight, not relax mode.�In QQ, the rear seats are really straight up. We tried to adjust the angle but was max.�Vezel is�much better but still lose to a sedan. I also understand�1.2T has 5 years warranty but only�first 3 servicing FOC, unless they upgrade the package recently. Only the 2L has 5 years free servicing.�

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Yes bro, u are right the temperature really goes higher on a turbo charged engine especially in smaller cc where the turbo must spool in order to get into the speed. NA engines normally can just whack without much worry about heating up in long distance travels.

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i frequent north cos i like to travel to malacca, genting. I felt safer going NA but that's just me. Maybe technologies has changed cos i'm still driving a manual car as of now..haha few days more i shall be able to relac my left foot.�

Edited by Johnson, 10 February 2015 - 05:47 PM.

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Yes bro, u are right the temperature really goes higher on a turbo charged engine especially in smaller cc where the turbo must spool in order to get into the speed. NA engines normally can just whack without much worry about heating up in long distance travels.
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i frequent north cos i like to travel to malacca, genting. I felt safer going NA but that's just me. Maybe technologies has changed cos i'm still driving a manual car as of now..haha few days more i shall be able to relac my left foot.�

The turbo charged cars of today are different from the past. The turbines are water cooled as part of the engine block cooling system. This will regulate overall temperatures of the coolant and engine oil.

Your added maintenance risk is that of the turbine and its hoses. Turbine bearing kaput, hoses crack, etc.
small price to pay for added fun

The turbo charged cars of today are different from the past. The turbines are water cooled as part of the engine block cooling system. This will regulate overall temperatures of the coolant and engine oil.

Your added maintenance risk is that of the turbine and its hoses. Turbine bearing kaput, hoses crack, etc.
small price to pay for added fun

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thanks for the clarification bro. Indeed i'm outdated liao� [drivingcar]

Looking for a good car groomer for paint protection? Exclude ceramic protection...not within my budget

hi bro,nowadays is either glass coating or ceramic coating. i did glass coating b4 at 250plus in my ex-car. do u have in mind what kind of other paint protection you want? if it's high end carnuba waxing which washes off in 3-4mths..i tink needa pay anything 50-150 per session of grroming every quarter.

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Does anyone know the average basic pay of the SE?

my experience is 500-800 per sale of 2nd hand car. and may 1k for new car

Hi, can I check with you guys if it is normal to settle the payment a few days before collection of cars or on the day of collection? My SE is asking me to sign the documents and settle the remaining a few days before collection date. Any inputs?

Thanks for the detailed calculation bro Rational. Seems like the diff between X and Z taking into account of 8k Coe diff and about 2k basic cost diff should be around 10k. So additional 10k is to account for the hybrid maintenance. Hopefully, the hybrid model price will drop once more dealers bring in the model.

Edited by Wattokkingu, 10 February 2015 - 08:43 PM.

Thanks for the detailed calculation bro Rational. Seems like the diff between X and Z taking into account of 8k Coe diff and about 2k basic cost diff should be around 10k. So additional 10k is to account for the hybrid maintenance. Hopefully, the hybrid model price will drop once more dealers bring in the model.

welcome bro. hope i din offend anyone. vezel is entry level car,hefty profit alredy. if we churn the numbers for merc and bmw..hohoho..powerful! still feel alot of other costs involved not accted for.

from e calculation,kinda seems like Hybrid OMV was under-declared. My unit's OMV was only 22k plus. have to make up for actual costs paid with higher asking price. any higher costs incurred at ARF wud mean even higher asking price then it wud not.be competitive already as it moves towards the realm of european car pricing.

Edited by Rationalexuberance, 10 February 2015 - 09:59 PM.

�
Can compare car cost as such...i may be wrong but this is what i gather from LTA, not including inspection fees.
�
Assuming Vezel S Model:
OMV = $20347 (got this from onemotoring Dec 2014 data)
Excise Duty =�$4069.40�(20% of OMV)
GST =�$1709.15�(7% of OMV + Excise Duty)
Reg Fee =�$140
ARF=�$10486�(after 10000 CEV rebate)
�
Total gross costs b4 inspection & misc = $36751.55
�
Assuming Vezel Hybrid:
OMV=�$23000�
Excise Duty =�$4600
GST =�$1932
Reg Fee =�$140
ARF =�$9200�(after 15000 CEV rebate)
�
Total gross costs b4 inspection & misc =�$38872.00

One other cost which is very difficult to quantify is business risk. The organization may have used credit facilities to bring the car in or paid in cash, there is risk to these ;) there is risk that inventories sit around in singapore for long time, etc... So considering the margins they make while not heap lot is fair. That's imo ;)

guys how do you recover from the CTBA when it is fully activated? sorry i remembered reading somewhere in the pages but lost in the 200 over pages.

hi bro,nowadays is either glass coating or ceramic coating. i did glass coating b4 at 250plus in my ex-car. do u have in mind what kind of other paint protection you want? if it's high end carnuba waxing which washes off in 3-4mths..i tink needa pay anything 50-150 per session of grroming every quarter.

my experience is 500-800 per sale of 2nd hand car. and may 1k for new car

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Bro, I am holding back my plan for paint protection waiting for your 5 layers 9H ceramic $500 kangtao.� Can pm contact...
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Hi, can I check with you guys if it is normal to settle the payment a few days before collection of cars or on the day of collection? My SE is asking me to sign the documents and settle the remaining a few days before collection date. Any inputs?

You have a choice..
Hear them out then make your wise decision..

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Haha, so let me guess, I don't think you will be using the CTBA anymore? Where is this button located at?
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Seems scary...

i think for now it has not gotten onto my nerves yet. for safety i wud rather leave it turned on by default. and perhaps develop the habit of not moving towards the gantries that fast.

Since now Kah Motors has listed the HRV, do you guys think that Vezel price will be affected (ie drop) to compete for market share ?

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Just my opinion, I think the price will maintain or increase. I think many people will be waiting for KM to launch the HRV and test drive it. Once they know the spec and for those who compare to the Vezel spec will cross over to PI.

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Haha, so let me guess, I don't think you will be using the CTBA anymore? Where is this button located at?

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Seems scary...

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The CTBA button is located at the right side of the steering wheel. Once press, the CTBA indicator light will turn on (means CBTA deactivated).

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I was scare initially but got use to it. It is actually a very good safety function. Now only if I am going a up/down slope gantry, I will switch off CTBA and on again after passing the gantry.�

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The CTBA button is located at the right side of the steering wheel. Once press, the CTBA indicator light will turn on (means CBTA deactivated).

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I was scare initially but got use to it. It is actually a very good safety function. Now only if I am going a up/down slope gantry, I will switch off CTBA and on again after passing the gantry.�

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Hi Dino,

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CTBA can be switched off while driving? I seem to only be able to do so when car is in P.

i think for now it has not gotten onto my nerves yet. for safety i wud rather leave it turned on by default. and perhaps develop the habit of not moving towards the gantries that fast.

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Right on bro. I also kena 2-3 times CTBA beeping when accelerating too close to the car in front. When I first read this in this forum, I told myself that this will never happen to me. I am a safe driver ...

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The CTBA button is located at the right side of the steering wheel. Once press, the CTBA indicator light will turn on (means CBTA deactivated).

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I was scare initially but got use to it. It is actually a very good safety function. Now only if I am going a up/down slope gantry, I will switch off CTBA and on again after passing the gantry.�

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Oh...so it's default "ON"? haha, perhaps i have to give it a try and if it's scary, i do like what you do. Off CTBA when going up/down slop then on again after passing gantry.

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Was kinda worried about the sudden brake and also noise after some mentioned it...seems scary.
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Hi Dino,

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CTBA can be switched off while driving? I seem to only be able to do so when car is in P.

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Hahahaa ... now you set me thinking. But still yes, can be on/off during driving. Try pressing the CTBA button�between 2-3 seconds.

hi bro,nowadays is either glass coating or ceramic coating. i did glass coating b4 at 250plus in my ex-car. do u have in mind what kind of other paint protection you want? if it's high end carnuba waxing which washes off in 3-4mths..i tink needa pay anything 50-150 per session of grroming every quarter.

my experience is 500-800 per sale of 2nd hand car. and may 1k for new car

Pls kindly enlightenment me on both class and ceramicm

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I try some combinations later then tell you. �

Hi Bro Dino, with regards to your doubt on the Elect. Hand Brake...

I tried activated the Electronic-Brake during driving (at slow speed cos dunno what gonna happen) and release it, I noted that it seems to be deactivated the moment I release my hand. And the car can still drove off, still in the "D" mode. So it does brake the car but in lighter force, just like you controlling the Mech type Hand-Brake.

I tried again activating the Elect-Brake & HELD on to it, during driving situation (slow speed again), it will hold as long as my finger is pulling the button, just like the Mech-Hand Brake, until the car completely stopped.

So in clonclusion, the Electronic Hand Brake function just like the Mech Hand Brake, except that you cannot control the pressure / force of the Brake like a Mech type where the harder you pull the harder it brakes. The Elect. Hand Brake will release as soon as you release your finger off the button. And the Elect. Hand Brake force is not so hard as compare to the Mech. type.

Safety Note : For those who wish to try out, pls do so in a "deserted" Car Park. � [nod]

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Edited by wkloh, 11 February 2015 - 12:12 PM.

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Bro, I am holding back my plan for paint protection waiting for your 5 layers 9H ceramic $500 kangtao.� Can pm contact...
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Am also looking for this .. can msg me the details pls ..

i think for now it has not gotten onto my nerves yet. for safety i wud rather leave it turned on by default. and perhaps develop the habit of not moving towards the gantries that fast.

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i also try not to move too fast to gantry.

however there are a few times when i am approaching a bigger SUV or say a lorry or pick up the CBTA will kick in if i throttle it too much

so its safe to say it kinda like 'assist' u in trying not to approach the front vehicle too fast

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i also try not to move too fast to gantry.

however there are a few times when i am approaching a bigger SUV or say a lorry or pick up the CBTA will kick in if i throttle it too much

so its safe to say it kinda like 'assist' u in trying not to approach the front vehicle too fast

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bro how near are you to e front vehicle. wud have been quite near for it to activate. after my small accident wen i kissed someones bumper, i hamji now. at least half car length..max 1/3 car length

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bro how near are you to e front vehicle. wud have been quite near for it to activate. after my small accident wen i kissed someones bumper, i hamji now. at least half car length..max 1/3 car length

I tried a few times & perceived the following :

1. If your foot is on the Brake pedal, it would not work. (Cos it means that you are in control & decision of how near you want to close in).

2. It is relative to speed to determine the CTBA kick-in distance.

If anyone has confirmed this, do share with us.

TIA � [:)]

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bro how near are you to e front vehicle. wud have been quite near for it to activate. after my small accident wen i kissed someones bumper, i hamji now. at least half car length..max 1/3 car length

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well its like say about 3 to 5 feet away

HL should compensate you for the late delivery since you are paying premium.

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Hopefully, you can get your ride before CNY.

Hi bro,

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Perhaps you might want to find out did HL promise before CNY delivery? It not fair you post a COMPENSATE for not knowing the story behind.........�

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So far (touch wood) I have yet fail any delivery and I always very transparent to my potential buyers.�

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Thank you. :)

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Best Regards

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Ray Lee aka Anzz

Hi bro,

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Perhaps you might want to find out did HL promise before CNY delivery? It not fair you post a COMPENSATE for not knowing the story behind.........�

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So far (touch wood) I have yet fail any delivery and I always very transparent to my potential buyers.�

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Thank you. :)

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Best Regards

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Ray Lee aka Anzz

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Sorry about that bro.

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Yes i do not know about the contract details.

Saw it on the booked list delivery is in Jan. maybe i did not read properly or the buyer posted wrong delivery date.

Edited by trajet2b, 11 February 2015 - 03:33 PM.

No worries bro. Huat Ha! New Year around the corner, counting down........ � �

trying to look around to see who should i buy from... went to LECO .... going to autolink..soon.. any brother can help?

trying to look around to see who should i buy from... went to LECO .... going to autolink..soon.. any brother can help?

you should check out mister cars also.

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dont rush.

trying to look around to see who should i buy from... went to LECO .... going to autolink..soon.. any brother can help?

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bro, PMed you. can share contacts with you but do take ur time to shop.

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