mycarforum: Nissan Qashqai 2014 part 77

Even though I am now driving a Honda Vezel, I used to be a regular at Tan Chong Ubi workshop many years back.

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I last time gong gong keep on signing their preventive maintenance program for 7 years straight as never been to outside workshops in the past.

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All the time waiting, smoking by SA, frustrations of problem not solved are still encountered even after so many years...

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Hope Tan Chong can improve their customer service and workshop standard soon as QQ is a nice looking car and I can understand the "pain and heartache" in taking annual leave for so many times to stay in Ubi lounge.....but when I am the last customer to take car....I realised that my problem is not solved at all. (squeaky sound from back-seats in Nissan Latio).

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Tokko,

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Indeed TC's Service is needing improvement as we shared here.

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Since we say AD is one key consideration and you are driving a Vezel but into this thread, why not share your experience with PI's service to verify or alleviate concern with new cars from PIs as reference since quite sure PIs also varies though I expect worse ? �

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Cheers !

Can check if you all face the Time issue on the Headunit? The clock sometime just jump by its own somehow... anyone face this issue and how to solve it...

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What do you mean "jump by its own"?

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I know that the time is sometimes inaccurate when we just start the car.� But it gets updated once the the GPS is connected on the HU.

I had a different experience BT and TP service centre. During one of the servicing, at BT, they change the seal of the oil sump or something like that, paid a few hundred for it.. Forward a few weeks while at another private workshop doing a pre malaysia trip check, the mechanic say my oil sump leaking, but say can still drive to malaysia, just need to monitor and top up.

After my Malaysia trip, went to BT to fixed it. After end of the day, they said the oil is likely to be spilled over at the sump by other mechanic, and they wash the are of oil and check the sump is ok. Still having some doubt, I waited for a couple weeks and sent to the private workshop to check, they they say confirm is leaking, oil can be seen.
Went back to BT to demand they fixed it, and not wash the oil away. End of day receive the report, say they fixed with new seal.

Next servicing cycle, went to TP instead. They check found oil sump leaking, and fix the problem.. At least TP has the initiative enough to check and fixed the seal without me informing them. To play safe , i waited a few weeks then went to the private mechanic to check. This time the mechanic say it's clear, no leak.

Tks for sharing ...guess bad apples anywhere and everywhere unless regular workshop and owner. I use riverview at autopoint and while expensive, service had been great. Ther are 3 customer relations mgr ...haha

Good to know and tks for sharing !!! This is especially you can previously duplicate it and you verified ok.

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=fGf5j7wzjX8
Is this normal? Clicking sound...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fGf5j7wzjX8

Is this normal? Loud clicking sound...

Edited by QashqiGrey, 11 March 2016 - 06:33 PM.

Just did my 5000 servicing today. After servicing, notable improvements in pick up speed and lesser free play with brakes. They fixed all the rattling some in the front and back so all good... for now. :)

Anyway, when I am on the GPS maps, sometimes along the road it chimes a "Ding!" randomly. Anyone know what the alert is about?

Speed bro.

What do you mean "jump by its own"?

I know that the time is sometimes inaccurate when we just start the car. But it gets updated once the the GPS is connected on the HU.

Thats what i mean... sometime just become inaccurate... this is becoz we activated the GPS??

Just did my 5000 servicing today. After servicing, notable improvements in pick up speed and lesser free play with brakes. They fixed all the rattling some in the front and back so all good... for now. :)

Anyway, when I am on the GPS maps, sometimes along the road it chimes a "Ding!" randomly. Anyone know what the alert is about?

There are many dings you can on but I think the one that Mred1-2 is telling you is you have the Driver Alert Warning On (pp 3 of 6 on the HU navigation option ) and you have been exceeding the speed limit on that road.

Thats what i mean... sometime just become inaccurate... this is becoz we activated the GPS??

This current version of the HU software has a bug in the sense that the time readout is only from the gps and not an internal clock. When you parked your car in an underground car park, the clock remembers only the last time and stopped counting because gps signal is lost. Once you are in the open it regains the gps signal and updates hence the time jump

Edited by EricChan, 11 March 2016 - 07:56 PM.

Just did my 5000 servicing today. After servicing, notable improvements in pick up speed and lesser free play with brakes. They fixed all the rattling some in the front and back so all good... for now. :)

Anyway, when I am on the GPS maps, sometimes along the road it chimes a "Ding!" randomly. Anyone know what the alert is about?

It's the bus lane warning.

Can check if you all face the Time issue on the Headunit? The clock sometime just jump by its own somehow... anyone face this issue and how to solve it...

Yes, once you go into indoor or underground car park, many a times the clocks timing will go off timing. Jumps to correct timing only after about a minute after the car gets out of carpark.

Bukit Timah because previously I lodge my complain and spoke to the svc mgr about the power loss and brake release delay issues. As he said not all cars are affected, those affected ones will be given priority for the update. Not sure if they automatically update all the 1.2T.
Somehow before the software upgrade, brakes delay can be simulated by ;
1. Parking ur car
2. Put to park mode and engaged handbrake
3. Idling stop cuts in
4. Off ur engine without restarting engine
5. Wait 1~2 mins and restart ur engine
6. Put to drive and release handbrake
7. Try moving off and if ur foot brake if not release immediately, u heard some mechanical sounds of the brake being release.
8. Will be reset after idling stop activates again.
If this happen then u need to go for the software upgrade.

Note: most svc engineers know nuts abt this issue and they need to consult the svc mgr.

Mred1-2

was the software upgrade mentioned in the TC Invoice after servicing?

I have own the QQ for 4 mths and this are the problem I face:
1) headunit misalight.
Went to Bukit Timah service centre to report together with my 5K servicing. They did nothing and service advisor told me it is normal for this misalight. After that the service mgr came in and agree with the misalight. Advise me to schedule another day again to re-align when my intention was to settle it at the same day as I cause arrange me during weekend. This cost me 100 dollar taxi fare to down my car for a day and was not fix.
2) Power lost issue. It almost got me into accident. Told the SA about it but they take it so lightly and anyhow performance diagnostic and close the case. I believe most of the owner here face the same problem.
3) reverse sensor continuously beeping without object behind. Booked an appt worth Toa Payoh servicing went there 10 mins earlier but waited for about 15 mins before a admin staff assist me. He SA totally ignore me and left the service report 1 side and continue to serve other people. Totally piss me off. After about an hour they call me say that car is ready without replacing. I repeatly told the service mgr without replacing will it fix the problem is confirm with me it will fix he problem. In additional piss me off is I need to drive my car out of the workshop myself without washing it. Sigh.... After 1 or 2 week the problem came back and I save the trouble and ignore it.
3) Air con issue. I was so unlucky that 2 days ago my air con faulty sigh got to arrange and go back servicing centre. It is very costly to down my car for a days as my work nature I need to travel often and have to pay additional cab fare. Is it fair to me. Even no shuttle service out to the nearest mrt. What is crap service.

So far the service experience that I have is BELOW AVERAGE. Do consider other alternative, car is to assist and bring convenient to our daily life not adding problem to our daily life.

Hey bro, thanks for sharing, power loss really sounds scary. Damn bad situation, pray ur ride gives u no more problems.

Drive safe

Went for 2nd servicing today at 6k+ as shown on my reminder label and did the software update.
Moved off from carpark and throttle seems more responsive and easily revv up to 3krpm with my usual foot. Feels that i need to depress less to achieve the same results than before. Not sure if it's really the software update or new engine oil is smoother or maybe it's just my head.
Anyway start/stop didn't cut in for the initial drive. It did cut in my next trip. Will monitor further....

How the FC after the software updated?
Heard the rpm had went up as compared to before.
Maybe too early for you to comment on the FC...do feedback at a later stage.
Thanks.

Mred1-2
was the software upgrade mentioned in the TC Invoice after servicing?

Yes it states "update software" but I did request for it during handover. Advisor was at first clueless abt it but I told him to check with svc mgr as I previously highlighted power loss n brake delays issues to him before.

I have own the QQ for 4 mths and this are the problem I face:
1) headunit misalight.
Went to Bukit Timah service centre to report together with my 5K servicing. They did nothing and service advisor told me it is normal for this misalight. After that the service mgr came in and agree with the misalight. Advise me to schedule another day again to re-align when my intention was to settle it at the same day as I cause arrange me during weekend. This cost me 100 dollar taxi fare to down my car for a day and was not fix.
2) Power lost issue. It almost got me into accident. Told the SA about it but they take it so lightly and anyhow performance diagnostic and close the case. I believe most of the owner here face the same problem.
3) reverse sensor continuously beeping without object behind. Booked an appt worth Toa Payoh servicing went there 10 mins earlier but waited for about 15 mins before a admin staff assist me. He SA totally ignore me and left the service report 1 side and continue to serve other people. Totally piss me off. After about an hour they call me say that car is ready without replacing. I repeatly told the service mgr without replacing will it fix the problem is confirm with me it will fix he problem. In additional piss me off is I need to drive my car out of the workshop myself without washing it. Sigh.... After 1 or 2 week the problem came back and I save the trouble and ignore it.
3) Air con issue. I was so unlucky that 2 days ago my air con faulty sigh got to arrange and go back servicing centre. It is very costly to down my car for a days as my work nature I need to travel often and have to pay additional cab fare. Is it fair to me. Even no shuttle service out to the nearest mrt. What is crap service.

So far the service experience that I have is BELOW AVERAGE. Do consider other alternative, car is to assist and bring convenient to our daily life not adding problem to our daily life.

Empathize fully with you - customer performance is wholly less than adequate. You do need to tell them all that you need doing on the car before you come otherwise it is considered as breakins to their plans and they won't easily accommodate. So on below , call them beforehand (or fill up the online DUO list and go through with them):
1. On HU align, I assume this is done otherwise put it in
2. Power lost- get the latest software update installed.
3. On reverse sensor (s) , insist they replace it (them) as these are self calibrated proximity type but whose sensitivity cannot be adjusted .
4. Air con-: obviously needing to get it done.

Tell them you need them to get you a spare car or compensate your taxi fare while the defects are being remedied because of your work.

Btw I see a number of madza 3 (& 2) getting frustrated over vibration problems http://www.mycarforu...97#entry5755006
( and I have seen every car make also have their share of sway owners ) so unfortunately in your case you were one of those souls in this category

Edited by EricChan, 11 March 2016 - 10:18 PM.

Empathize fully with you - customer performance is wholly less than adequate. You do need to tell them all that you need doing on the car before you come otherwise it is considered as breakins to their plans and they won't easily accommodate. So on below , call them beforehand (or fill up the online DUO list and go through with them):
1. On HU align, I assume this is done otherwise put it in
2. Power lost- get the latest software update installed.
3. On reverse sensor (s) , insist they replace it (them) as these are self calibrated proximity type but which sensivity cannot be adjusted .
4. Air con-: obviously needing to get it done.

Tell them you need them to get you a spare car or compensate your taxi fare while the defects are being remedied because of your work.

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=fGf5j7wzjX8
Brake issues like mine in vid too?

Yes it states "update software" but I did request for it during handover. Advisor was at first clueless abt it but I told him to check with svc mgr as I previously highlighted power loss n brake delays issues to him before.

Think Nissan is not ethical at all. If there's an issue, they should acknowledge it and inform all owners.

How the FC after the software updated?
Heard the rpm had went up as compared to before.
Maybe too early for you to comment on the FC...do feedback at a later stage.
Thanks.

I specifically tell myself to take note of the rpm. Before update idling was 750rpm. After update increase slightly and hovers above 750rpm mark. FC seems to increase slightly cos I drove faster after 2nd servicing...lol

Think Nissan is not ethical at all. If there's an issue, they should acknowledge it and inform all owners.

Well not all cars are affected right? Some bros here don't encounter these issues at all.

I specifically tell myself to take note of the rpm. Before update idling was 750rpm. After update increase slightly and hovers above 750rpm mark. FC seems to increase slightly cos I drove faster after 2nd servicing...lol
Well not all cars are affected right? Some bros here don't encounter these issues at all.

They should still inform owners; let those who face the issues have a solution than driving in fear of safety.

There are many dings you can on but I think the one that Mred1-2 is telling you is you have the Driver Alert Warning On (pp 3 of 6 on the HU navigation option ) and you have been exceeding the speed limit on that road.
This current version of the HU software has a bug in the sense that the time readout is only from the gps and not an internal clock. When you parked your car in an underground car park, the clock remembers only the last time and stopped counting because gps signal is lost. Once you are in the open it regains the gps signal and updates hence the time jump

Maybe the dings telling you to look out for chiobu. Hahaha.

There shld be some way to set the clock. Will explore further if I have time.

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=fGf5j7wzjX8
Brake issues like mine in vid too?

I cannot be sure but it sounds like either the clip on one of your brake pads securing it is misaligned or slightly out of place. It doesn't sounds like the pad is worn but if it unevenly worn (unlikely) it could cause a problem. I would insist TC to change all the brake pads. Also to update the software.
Here's a website about brake clicks for all it is worth http://mechanics.sta...g-at-low-speeds

Edited by EricChan, 11 March 2016 - 10:25 PM.

They should still inform owners; let those who face the issues have a solution than driving in fear of safety.

I reported those issues to TC in early Jan and mgr told me abt the software release somewhere in Feb. I think he did advise me meanwhile to disable the idling stop functions and check back with him afterwards.
So far what kind of issue did u encountered and did you report it to TC or they offer u any other solution before?

I cannot be sure but it sounds like either the clip on one of your brake pads securing it is misaligned or slightly out of place. It doesn't sounds like the pad is worn but If it uneven worn (unlikely) it could cause a problem. I would insist TC to change all the brake pads
Here's a website: http://mechanics.sta...g-at-low-speeds

They insisted that it's the characteristic of the car. Tried to add shim but sound recurred. Am lost, used to be isolated to the rear but front has clanking noise too.

I cannot be sure but it sounds like either the clip on one of your brake pads securing it is misaligned or slightly out of place. It doesn't sounds like the pad is worn but If it uneven worn (unlikely) it could cause a problem. I would insist TC to change all the brake pads. Also to update the software.
Here's a website hope it can add value http://mechanics.sta...g-at-low-speeds

My previous car has similar sound but mech troubleshoot it to one spring coil not sitting properly on the mounting. Just a slight turn solve the issue but if this is from the brakes then I'm not sure abt it.

I reported those issues to TC in early Jan and mgr told me abt the software release somewhere in Feb. I think he did advise me meanwhile to disable the idling stop functions and check back with him afterwards.
So far what kind of issue did u encountered and did you report it to TC or they offer u any other solution before?

My issue occurrd last june. Told me that it was the head unit conflicting with the braking system. Also many other issues, including rattling and brakes:
https://m.youtube.co...h?v=fGf5j7wzjX8

Issues still not solved.
Was never informed of the software even though on average i have been back once a month for the past 9 mths, though i suspect they updated it today.

I reported those issues to TC in early Jan and mgr told me abt the software release somewhere in Feb. I think he did advise me meanwhile to disable the idling stop functions and check back with him afterwards.
So far what kind of issue did u encountered and did you report it to TC or they offer u any other solution before?

I had that intermittent warning "key system fault". So I changed the keyFob battery the other day. Last night it became more serious. Orange light always on when engine is started. That T shape logo which means Malfunction Indicator Light - engine control system malfunction. So no choice got to go down to BT today. I forgot to ask about the software update. I thought they will update the software for all 1.2T owners. Until i check the TC invoice now. There was no mention of it.

They insisted that it's the characteristic of the car. Tried to add shim but sound recurred. Am lost, used to be isolated to the rear but front has clanking noise too.

If its the characteristic then every QQ should have this sound ah?

If its the characteristic then every QQ should have this sound ah?

Lol precisely!!!

I had that intermittent warning "key system fault". So I changed the keyFob battery the other day. Last night it became more serious. Orange light always on when engine is started. That T shape logo which means Malfunction Indicator Light - engine control system malfunction. So no choice got to go down to BT today. I forgot to ask about the software update. I thought they will update the software for all 1.2T owners. Until i check the TC invoice now. There was no mention of it.

They won't do for all 1.2 automatically at this stage. Maybe those who updated first like mine are the guinea pigs.

My car took an extra 1.5hrs for the update, not sure if it's really true for the extra time or they bulls**t me cos there were many cars that day. But I did saw the mech took my car out for a test drive just before I collect my car.

They insisted that it's the characteristic of the car. Tried to add shim but sound recurred. Am lost, used to be isolated to the rear but front has clanking noise too.

Brake shim is to mitigate against brake squeal definitely of no use against this. This noise is a click . It could be or could not be brake related. Troubleshooting is never easy when it is difficult to point source of sound . Mred1-2 do you know the name of the mechanic (it will be in your sheet/ system) who solved your problem , can you share the name with QashqiGrey , as it maybe worth requesting that particular mechanic to have this part on his car check out.

Edited by EricChan, 11 March 2016 - 10:43 PM.

Lol precisely!!!

With radio off, i only heard some frictions noise or braking sounds when doing cornering. May be it's the active trace control or traction control activating and if they say this is the characteristic then I would believe.
Not when moving off from standstill.

Brake shim is to mitigate against brake squeal definitely of no use against this. This noise is a click . It could be or could not be brake related. Troubleshooting is never easy when it is difficult to point source of sound . Mred1-2 do you know the name of the mechanic (it will be in your sheet/ system) who solved your problem , can you share the name with QashqiGrey , as it maybe worth requesting that particular mechanic to have this part on his car check out.

That was decades ago with my old suzuki Jimny at Champion motors.

Realise that my ride is pretty bumpy despite deflating it to 33 PSi. At time on certain part of the highway, it felt like those mild air turbulence. Is this the character of a 2L? Cannot recall how it's like during test drive. Anyone having the same experience as me?

Realise that my ride is pretty bumpy despite deflating it to 33 PSi. At time on certain part of the highway, it felt like those mild air turbulence. Is this the character of a 2L? Cannot recall how it's like during test drive. Anyone having the same experience as me?

Mid air turbulence... Meaning u inside car and car moves up and then down suddenly?
If u narrow down to a certain part of highway then it's the unevenness of the road that causes it.
Do u feel one part of the car especially the rear is like floating in the air then next moment the rear contacts the ground and car unstable a while?

Mid air turbulence... Meaning u inside car and car moves up and then down suddenly?
If u narrow down to a certain part of highway then it's the unevenness of the road that causes it.
Do u feel one part of the car especially the rear is like floating in the air then next moment the rear contacts the ground and car unstable a while?

Well, not as bad as what you have describe. Due to uneven road surfaces, can feel quite bumpy. My Friend say is the road surfaces but l don't agree.

Well, not as bad as what you have describe. Due to uneven road surfaces, can feel quite bumpy. My Friend say is the road surfaces but l don't agree.

Does feel bumpy, and if you find a good solution please share.

Just did my 5000 servicing today. After servicing, notable improvements in pick up speed and lesser free play with brakes. They fixed all the rattling some in the front and back so all good... for now. :)

Anyway, when I am on the GPS maps, sometimes along the road it chimes a "Ding!" randomly. Anyone know what the alert is about?

Nice to hear that the rattling noise gone.
The "Ding" could be due to the car speed exceeding the speed limit of the road or speed camera approaching with the distance from it indicated.

They insisted that it's the characteristic of the car. Tried to add shim but sound recurred. Am lost, used to be isolated to the rear but front has clanking noise too.

Just read pp 5-60 of the owner's manual. Wonder whether this relates to what you played.
It says there is a self test feature on the ABS that:
The computer has a built in diagnostic feature that tests the system each time you start the engine and move the vehicle at a low speed in forward or reverse. When the self test occurs, you may hear a clunk noise ...
Same comment appearing on the clunk noise written about the self test on the ESP system see pp5-61.

Just read pp 5-60 of the owner's manual. Wonder whether this relates to what you played.
It says there is a self test feature on the ABS that:
The computer has a built in diagnostic feature that tests the system each time you start the engine and move the vehicle at a low speed in forward or reverse. When the self test occurs, you may hear a clunk noise ...
Same comment appearing on the clunk noise written about the self test on the ESP system see pp5-61.

It's not only at start up. Occurs throughout journey, parking.

Just read pp 5-60 of the owner's manual. Wonder whether this relates to what you played.
It says there is a self test feature on the ABS that:
The computer has a built in diagnostic feature that tests the system each time you start the engine and move the vehicle at a low speed in forward or reverse. When the self test occurs, you may hear a clunk noise ...
Same comment appearing on the clunk noise written about the self test on the ESP system see pp5-61.

Good to know and tks !!!

Edited by richard_crl032, 12 March 2016 - 11:22 AM.

It's not only at start up. Occurs throughout journey, parking.

Did any of the ABS or EBS lit up when you hear the sound?
I am tempted to think it is indeed associated with the braking system because here's what I think :
1. The brake system has a learning program and each braking action modify them. When this click / clank happens it modifies/ corrects its action to your braking behavior but appears it has never settled down to its optimal form to suit you.
2. There are 2 actuators independently controlling the braking system so that you have at least 2 brakes working . So the now back and later front noise could possibly be explainable from the independent control ?
Sometimes cars are not put together sufficiently properly at the factory ( these things happen with every make), no fault of TC (in fact it becomes much more difficult for mechanic and maintenance to rectify -you will be wrong to blame them as the problem was caused by someone else putting it together )
There have also been fiddling with your brake system, so parts could have been more quickly worn or loosen.
I would ask them to change out everything on the brake system - actuators, brake pads (except the brake disc) , drain and refill the brake oil , and update the software program .

I would get back to the SE and ask him/ her to set up a meeting with their management on how they can help you and offer you the Peace of Mind in Vehicle Ownership, that your car doesn't give you much confidence that it can last 10 years even when being maintained "properly" , because you have already suffered real concerns and anxiety , lost plenty of time, put up with a lot of inconveniences and this has consumed your energy and distracted you from your work and is still not getting anywhere to ending ... See what way out or win win solution TC management can have for both parties.. And then you could try CASE even legal...but you will have to weigh it whether this will help and protect your interest and then you must be prepared to spend / waste even more effort , time , money , ..or whether you risk not gaining anything at all as TC may then sit back and not do anything more for you unless compelled to...

Edited by EricChan, 12 March 2016 - 01:24 PM.

Indeed Service experienced tpy not great but BT and Ubi had been ok. Wiper spray not working after 2 weeks from collection and tpy did diagnostic and cannot repair. They refer me to Ubi and fix <1 hr cos only found choked and now working fine for 2 mths +

On power loss, most of us DO NOT experience it. Out of 100+ bros in the whatsapp group, >5% reported it but no doubt a concern.

Cheers ...

Can I be added into the WhatsApp group?

Did any of the ABS or EBS lit up when you hear the sound?
I am tempted to think it is indeed associated with the braking system because here's what I think :
1. The brake system has a learning program and each braking action modify them. When this click / clank happens it modifies/ corrects its action to your braking behavior but appears it has never settled down to its optimal form to suit you.
2. There are 2 actuators independently controlling the braking system so that you have at least 2 brakes working . So the now back and later front noise could possibly be explainable from the independent control ?
Sometimes cars are not put together sufficiently properly at the factory ( these things happen with every make), no fault of TC (in fact it becomes much more difficult for mechanic and maintenance to rectify -you will be wrong to blame them as the problem was caused by someone else putting it together )
There have also been fiddling with your brake system, so parts could have been more quickly worn or loosen.
I would ask them to change out everything on the brake system - actuators, brake pads (except the brake disc) , drain and refill the brake oil , and update the software program .

I would get back to the SE and ask him/ her to set up a meeting with their management on how they can help you and offer you the Peace of Mind in Vehicle Ownership, that your car doesn't give you much confidence that it can last 10 years even when being maintained "properly" , because you have already suffered real concerns and anxiety , lost plenty of time, put up with a lot of inconveniences and this has consumed your energy and distracted you from your work and is still not getting anywhere to ending ... See what way out or win win solution TC management can have for both parties.. And then you could try CASE even legal...but you will have to weigh it whether this will help and protect your interest and then you must be prepared to spend / waste even more effort , time , money , ..or whether you risk not gaining anything at all as TC may then sit back and not do anything more for you unless compelled to...

Yep, GM has been following my case. They have been repairing it for past 9 mths, but recurrs. No ABS light on, nothing. Just that if TC cannot repair, they must admit it is beyond them, not drag on. Have forwarded a letter from CASE snd LTA is informed too. Just that till now, they still claim it is a characteristic of the car, similar to the gtr, abt brake spacing...

Lol not even looking at 10yrs, cannot even have a peaceful drive in 10days.

Edited by QashqiGrey, 12 March 2016 - 03:46 PM.

Gosh. These feedbacks to TC must be solved! Worrying. This is my 2nd Nissan and all had been well. For the past 1 week, Qashqai had provided a great drive. A little rattling can be heard at low SPD with radio totally off. But it's intermittent. Somehow slight pressure at passenger door near the glove compartment would stop the sounds. My reverse cam went crazy once but putting to drive and reverse again solved the issue.

Don't think cars would be perfect but shall highlight during servicing.

Now for the photo! My side steps from taobao is here! But worried as I ordered the 2016 version. Why the box states 2015.... Stress. Shall open it tmr.

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Gosh. These feedbacks to TC must be solved! Worrying. This is my 2nd Nissan and all had been well. For the past 1 week, Qashqai had provided a great drive. A little rattling can be heard at low SPD with radio totally off. But it's intermittent. Somehow slight pressure at passenger door near the glove compartment would stop the sounds. My reverse cam went crazy once but putting to drive and reverse again solved the issue.

Don't think cars would be perfect but shall highlight during servicing.

Now for the photo! My side steps from taobao is here! But worried as I ordered the 2016 version. Why the box states 2015.... Stress. Shall open it tmr.

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Edited by Tsupan, 12 March 2016 - 07:43 PM.

Yep, GM has been following my case. They have been repairing it for past 9 mths, but recurrs. No ABS light on, nothing. Just that if TC cannot repair, they must admit it is beyond them, not drag on. Have forwarded a letter from CASE snd LTA is informed too. Just that till now, they still claim it is a characteristic of the car, similar to the gtr, abt brake spacing...

Lol not even looking at 10yrs, cannot even have a peaceful drive in 10days.

Like that one... last time my Latio also got those kok kok sound if we steer the steering at certain angle... even tyre shop also ask me why got such sound.... tc say so long not safety issue, it's normal one...

Gosh. These feedbacks to TC must be solved! Worrying. This is my 2nd Nissan and all had been well. For the past 1 week, Qashqai had provided a great drive. A little rattling can be heard at low SPD with radio totally off. But it's intermittent. Somehow slight pressure at passenger door near the glove compartment would stop the sounds. My reverse cam went crazy once but putting to drive and reverse again solved the issue.

Don't think cars would be perfect but shall highlight during servicing.

Now for the photo! My side steps from taobao is here! But worried as I ordered the 2016 version. Why the box states 2015.... Stress. Shall open it tmr.

Bro, good luck to your purchase. �2015 China's QQ is totally differ from our QQ.

My side step BMW style.

My spot lights, more SUV look.

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QQ 1.2 really have so many issues or exaggerated because it is such a popular car so bound to have higher incidence of complains?
To be on the safe side, better get a Japan assembled Nissan like xtrail or 2 liter QQ (assembled in Japan?).

Bro, good luck to your purchase. �2015 China's QQ is totally differ from our QQ.

My side step BMW style.

My spot lights, more SUV look.

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Did you get these kits in SG ? Which workshop ?

Bro, good luck to your purchase. 2015 China's QQ is totally differ from our QQ.

My side step BMW style.

My spot lights, more SUV look.

WAhhhhhhhhh nice!! White some more . Plus nice number plate too.. And yours must be one of the earliest on the road here ... Ohhh Chrome your grill ...very swee

Qashqai twin

This one spec very nice as it comes with a lot of features .. Wonder anyone here got one

Edited by EricChan, 12 March 2016 - 09:51 PM.

WAhhhhhhhhh nice!! White some more . Plus nice number plate too.. And yours must be one of the earliest on the road here ... Ohhh Chrome your grill ...very swee
This one spec very nice as it comes with a lot of features .. Wonder anyone here got one

If that car comes with a 6at or cvt gearbox, I will give them the check immediately... Too bad it's a dual clutch....

WAhhhhhhhhh nice!! White some more . Plus nice number plate too.. And yours must be one of the earliest on the road here ... Ohhh Chrome your grill ...very swee
This one spec very nice as it comes with a lot of features .. Wonder anyone here got one

There is a SLA plate in my carpark. Nice!!!

QQ 1.2 really have so many issues or exaggerated because it is such a popular car so bound to have higher incidence of complains?
To be on the safe side, better get a Japan assembled Nissan like xtrail or 2 liter QQ (assembled in Japan?).

It's exaggerated by those who suffer problems! Cos they, including me, are frustrated that TC cannot solve them and always say it is like tat!

Did you get these kits in SG ? Which workshop ?

Both items brought from TaoBao thr 65 Daigeo.

Does feel bumpy, and if you find a good solution please share.

Change tyres profile, should solve the bumpy and noise issue. Agree?
But Aust review said despite 225/45/R19, the ride is smooth and stable. Not bumpy. Puzzle.....

There is a SLA plate in my carpark. Nice!!!

In Punggol Emerald?

Change tyres profile, should solve the bumpy and noise issue. Agree?
But Aust review said despite 225/45/R19, the ride is smooth and stable. Not bumpy. Puzzle.....

Yes, Sounds right by this article as well
http://www.ehow.com/...-smoothly_.html
Proof of the pudding is in the eating .. ?????(you won't know the taste unless it is eaten)..so need some feedbacks on other tyre types

Edited by EricChan, 13 March 2016 - 07:44 AM.

Yes, Sounds right by this article as well
http://www.ehow.com/...-smoothly_.html
Proof of the pudding is in the eating .. ��(you won't know the taste unless it is eaten)..so need some feedbacks on other tyre types

Very informative article. Tks.
Anyone has changes their 19" stock rim and tyres?
Any good recommendations?

If that car comes with a 6at or cvt gearbox, I will give them the check immediately... Too bad it's a dual clutch....

Check or cheque?

Well, not as bad as what you have describe. Due to uneven road surfaces, can feel quite bumpy. My Friend say is the road surfaces but l don't agree.

You will be surprised how uneven our roads are especially the PiE near Toa Payoh. Floating feeling...

Check or cheque?

Oppss... Yeah, cheque.... Hehehhe...

Oppss... Yeah, cheque.... Hehehhe...

So many women so little time...So many cars, so little money..

You will be surprised how uneven our roads are especially the PiE near Toa Payoh. Floating feeling...

That was my QQ virgin route from TC to home. My Friend say the problem not lie with QQ. Is the road surfaces. Even his Honda Odessesy also experience loud road noises.

You will be surprised how uneven our roads are especially the PiE near Toa Payoh. Floating feeling...

if on paper specs, qq2 & 1.2 suspension difference is at the rear. But that's paper specs. Not sure how much impact it will translate to.
If u feel that car is floating when going uneven road, it Is likely due to unsprung weight of the car. Can google on this. Basically when going humps, the wheel(rim) will be push towards top of car. The spring/absorbers will take more effort to push back the rim downwards if the rim is heavy. So the longer it takes for the spring to push the rim to contact the road, the longer u feel your car is floating.

In summary to improve on this, u need to reduce the weight at "bottom" part of car. Rims and brake discs are the 2 areas that can greatly reduced the unsprung weight.

Bro, good luck to your purchase. 2015 China's QQ is totally differ from our QQ.

My side step BMW style.

My spot lights, more SUV look.

Hi. So how does one know which part in taobao matches to our local shores QQ?
I thought it's only the driver and the front bumper have difference. So even the side of the car too?

Edited by Itchyhand, 13 March 2016 - 11:41 AM.

if on paper specs, qq2 & 1.2 suspension difference is at the rear. But that's paper specs. Not sure how much impact it will translate to.
If u feel that car is floating when going uneven road, it Is likely due to unsprung weight of the car. Can google on this. Basically when going humps, the wheel(rim) will be push towards top of car. The spring/absorbers will take more effort to push back the rim downwards if the rim is heavy. So the longer it takes for the spring to push the rim to contact the road, the longer u feel your car is floating.

In summary to improve on this, u need to reduce the weight at "bottom" part of car. Rims and brake discs are the 2 areas that can greatly reduced the unsprung weight.

Sorry bro. I just wrote in to LTA. Think they resurface the part of the PIE. Now that part no boing boing. Sadly now near Kallang area boing boing come back again.

Sorry bro. I just wrote in to LTA. Think they resurface the part of the PIE. Now that part no boing boing. Sadly now near Kallang area boing boing come back again.

But at least not car problem.
Heng.

if on paper specs, qq2 & 1.2 suspension difference is at the rear. But that's paper specs. Not sure how much impact it will translate to.
If u feel that car is floating when going uneven road, it Is likely due to unsprung weight of the car. Can google on this. Basically when going humps, the wheel(rim) will be push towards top of car. The spring/absorbers will take more effort to push back the rim downwards if the rim is heavy. So the longer it takes for the spring to push the rim to contact the road, the longer u feel your car is floating.

In summary to improve on this, u need to reduce the weight at "bottom" part of car. Rims and brake discs are the 2 areas that can greatly reduced the unsprung weight.
Hi. So how does one know which part in taobao matches to our local shores QQ?
I thought it's only the driver and the front bumper have difference. So even the side of the car too?

Anyway there is difference between the suspension for 2.0.. My daughter fall asleep when she was siting behind when I test drive the 2.0 but not the 1.2 even my wife said the 1.2 not as comfortable compare to the 2.0.. somehowI don't know y so many ppl with 1.2 so many problems while my friend driving the 2.0 said no problem at all except the 1.2.. I suppose 70% buy the 1.2 and only 30% buy 2.0 which the AD told me.. My wife also told me if I wan to buy then get the 2.0 if not don't buy if not later on I sure complain this no good that no good lol..

Just hope COE will go down in few months time if not all the price still so exp..

Edited by JX83, 13 March 2016 - 12:45 PM.

Anyway there is difference between the suspension for 2.0.. My daughter fall asleep when she was siting behind when I test drive the 2.0 but not the 1.2 even my wife said the 1.2 not as comfortable compare to the 2.0.. somehowI don't know y so many ppl with 1.2 so many problems while my friend driving the 2.0 said no problem at all except the 1.2.. I suppose 70% buy the 1.2 and only 30% buy 2.0 which the AD told me.. My wife also told me if I wan to buy then get the 2.0 if not don't buy if not later on I sure complain this no good that no good lol..

Just hope COE will go down in few months time if not all the price still so exp..

Maybe your daughter already sleep full in the 2.0 leh.
2.0 rear is independent links. 1.2t is torsion beams.
Vezel is using the macpherson.
I like 1.2t suspension though on paper independent perform better.

Hi. So how does one know which part in taobao matches to our local shores QQ?

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I thought it's only the driver and the front bumper have difference. So even the side of the car too?

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My guide line is make sure the sellers show the pictures that the item was installed in the QQ that is same as us.
If no pictures show, then better dun buy from this seller.
I dun think the sellers hv times to do photoshop and try to cheat the buyers.

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Anyway there is difference between the suspension for 2.0.. My daughter fall asleep when she was siting behind when I test drive the 2.0 but not the 1.2 even my wife said the 1.2 not as comfortable compare to the 2.0.. somehowI don't know y so many ppl with 1.2 so many problems while my friend driving the 2.0 said no problem at all except the 1.2.. I suppose 70% buy the 1.2 and only 30% buy 2.0 which the AD told me.. My wife also told me if I wan to buy then get the 2.0 if not don't buy if not later on I sure complain this no good that no good lol..

Just hope COE will go down in few months time if not all the price still so exp..

To me QQ 2.0 has 2 qualities head and shoulders above competition :
1. Swee (also true for 1.2).. I mean if you look at say forester , sian (don't know how I can live with that look for 10 years )
2. It's Moon roof- stupendously awesome and beyond anything you can find for this price (and even x trail is an ugly sister in this area)
That word again swee

Ps I think 1.2 previous problem with some experiencing lagging is over with the software upgrade

Edited by EricChan, 13 March 2016 - 02:51 PM.

Anyway there is difference between the suspension for 2.0.. My daughter fall asleep when she was siting behind when I test drive the 2.0 but not the 1.2 even my wife said the 1.2 not as comfortable compare to the 2.0.. somehowI don't know y so many ppl with 1.2 so many problems while my friend driving the 2.0 said no problem at all except the 1.2.. I suppose 70% buy the 1.2 and only 30% buy 2.0 which the AD told me.. My wife also told me if I wan to buy then get the 2.0 if not don't buy if not later on I sure complain this no good that no good lol..

Just hope COE will go down in few months time if not all the price still so exp..

-Your Daughter fell asleep in 2.0 becos the car is bumpy, cradle like effect so she dozed off.
-Agree that 2.0 has little problem but you need to get used to the 19" Low profile tyres too.
-Current price for 2.0 is what many Bros here paid for their 1.2.
Believe if prices were to go down, garment will surely interven to make it go up. To achieve car lite, COE cannot come down.

Bro, good luck to your purchase. �2015 China's QQ is totally differ from our QQ.

My side step BMW style.

My spot lights, more SUV look.

Wow looks great. I want for mine to be installed! Can see the side view of the sidestep after installation?

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I just got my front and rear bumper lip from sgshop. Any recommendations for installation? How much does it cost appox?

Wow looks great. I want for mine to be installed! Can see the side view of the sidestep after installation?

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I just got my front and rear bumper lip from sgshop. Any recommendations for installation? How much does it cost appox?

Bro, I brought from the following seller, all 4 models can install in our QQ, you just pick the one you like. �There's lot of photos to show how it look after installation.

Here is the link of the step :

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https://item.taobao....126&ns=1#detail

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The cost of items + shipment around S$150, and that time 65daigeo had promotion so the cost was cheaper.
I was chopped by the WS, they charge me $120 to install the step, other WS should be charge between 80-100.

Qq is so tight space inside. Not tall to be suv. Not big to look aggressive. Not power enough bcs 1.2 l. Overall it is terrible car for my personal view.

Qq is so tight space inside. Not tall to be suv. Not big to look aggressive. Not power enough bcs 1.2 l. Overall it is terrible car for my personal view.

Ya and (your) Altis is the best.

Qq is so tight space inside. Not tall to be suv. Not big to look aggressive. Not power enough bcs 1.2 l. Overall it is terrible car for my personal view.

Have you test driven it?

Qq is so tight space inside. Not tall to be suv. Not big to look aggressive. Not power enough bcs 1.2 l. Overall it is terrible car for my personal view.

You owned a Qq? I also find BMW X5 a terrible car because I cannot afford it... hahaha...

Edited by roycfw, 13 March 2016 - 06:33 PM.

Qq is so tight space inside. Not tall to be suv. Not big to look aggressive. Not power enough bcs 1.2 l. Overall it is terrible car for my personal view.

Alamak QQ is not a SUV. it's a Cross-over.

Qq is so tight space inside. Not tall to be suv. Not big to look aggressive. Not power enough bcs 1.2 l. Overall it is terrible car for my personal view.

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Hello uncle, your Altis is the best car lah. No need to visit QQ thread.� [wave]

Qq is so tight space inside. Not tall to be suv. Not big to look aggressive. Not power enough bcs 1.2 l. Overall it is terrible car for my personal view.

U Toyota SE is it? Why condemn until like that..

Not for offence, just sharing ,sorry for all owner qq,i have read many good review from qq and test drive qq. If qq price is below 100 k i wont have any comment , i just end user, dont have any good relationship with any car dealer. engine is most expensive part in car, do you all think 100k to get a 1.2 L engine car, added in turbo.it is worth? U simply take one young girl, better cover 1.2L label on back , it make sense it is cheap car for girl to see u 1.2L . Somemore add in my point on top listing....

Not for offence, just sharing ,sorry for all owner qq,i have read many good review from qq and test drive qq. If qq price is below 100 k i wont have any comment , i just end user, dont have any good relationship with any car dealer. engine is most expensive part in car, do you all think 100k to get a 1.2 L engine car, added in turbo.it is worth? U simply take one young girl, better cover 1.2L label on back , it make sense it is cheap car for girl to see u 1.2L . Somemore add in my point on top listing....

Wah you really
???????

Not for offence, just sharing ,sorry for all owner qq,i have read many good review from qq and test drive qq. If qq price is below 100 k i wont have any comment , i just end user, dont have any good relationship with any car dealer. engine is most expensive part in car, do you all think 100k to get a 1.2 L engine car, added in turbo.it is worth? U simply take one young girl, better cover 1.2L label on back , it make sense it is cheap car for girl to see u 1.2L . Somemore add in my point on top listing....

Boy boy behave yourself

Boy boy behave yourself

If not Uncle pull your ears then u know

Boy boy behave yourself
If not Uncle pull your ears then u know

LOL school holiday just started...

Not for offence, just sharing ,sorry for all owner qq,i have read many good review from qq and test drive qq. If qq price is below 100 k i wont have any comment , i just end user, dont have any good relationship with any car dealer. engine is most expensive part in car, do you all think 100k to get a 1.2 L engine car, added in turbo.it is worth? U simply take one young girl, better cover 1.2L label on back , it make sense it is cheap car for girl to see u 1.2L . Somemore add in my point on top listing....

Volkswagen also got 1.2 leh.
In Sg u can spend 100k buy a car, where USA can buy a Porsche, is it worth it?
So u judge a person by the cc of a car he drives.
Live so old still ????
No offense... That probably makes u a cheap man....

Edited by Itchyhand, 13 March 2016 - 09:24 PM.

Qq is so tight space inside. Not tall to be suv. Not big to look aggressive. Not power enough bcs 1.2 l. Overall it is terrible car for my personal view.

Haha.. This guy come to a place where all QQ lovers gather to give negative comment and feedback. Let's say you're right, then all those who bought Qashqai must be stupid?
1.2 turbo cost 100k not becos the car is expensive. It's our garment high taxes and COE. You're a first day Singaporean?

Volkswagen also got 1.2 leh.
In Sg u can spend 100k buy a car, where USA can buy a Porsche, is it worth it?
So u judge a person by the cc of a car he drives.
Live so old still ��
No offense... That probably makes u a cheap man....

He a bit cranky today la. Lost his pacifier

He a bit cranky today la. Lost his pacifier

Thought menses or menopause.... So it's lost the pacifier...
???????

Not for offence, just sharing ,sorry for all owner qq,i have read many good review from qq and test drive qq. If qq price is below 100 k i wont have any comment , i just end user, dont have any good relationship with any car dealer. engine is most expensive part in car, do you all think 100k to get a 1.2 L engine car, added in turbo.it is worth? U simply take one young girl, better cover 1.2L label on back , it make sense it is cheap car for girl to see u 1.2L . Somemore add in my point on top listing....

Haha... The way you describe seen like just gotten your car licence. Anyway this is individual preference, I guess most of the 100k cost go to COE which is just a piece of online document.

Haha... The way you describe seen like just gotten your car licence. Anyway this is individual preference, I guess most of the 100k cost go to COE which is just a piece of online document.

Pang Chan la. He still in diapers

Haha.. This guy come to a place where all QQ lovers gather to give negative comment and feedback. Let's say you're right, then all those who bought Qashqai must be stupid?
1.2 turbo cost 100k not becos the car is expensive. It's our garment high taxes and COE. You're a first day Singaporean?

The last time I was laughing so loud was when Russell Peters was in town.

To me QQ 2.0 has 2 qualities head and shoulders above competition :
1. Swee (also true for 1.2).. I mean if you look at say forester , sian (don't know how I can live with that look for 10 years )
2. It's Moon roof- stupendously awesome and beyond anything you can find for this price (and even x trail is an ugly sister in this area)
That word again swee

Ps I think 1.2 previous problem with some experiencing lagging is over with the software upgrade

Then they should do a recall to show sense of responsiblilty?

Then they should do a recall to show sense of responsiblilty?

If they want... Would have done it earlier already when the problem start to surface out..lol

Edited by Credor, 13 March 2016 - 10:08 PM.

Pang Chan la. He still in diapers
The last time I was laughing so loud was when Russell Peters was in town.

The saying
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When a wall is about to collapse , everyone gives it a push . .. Perhaps with the exception of qashqigrey. ..
It means an unanimous opposition to an unpopular person (everyone hits a man when he is in the unrepenting wrong )

Then they should do a recall to show sense of responsiblilty?

What is the end game for them?
To replace you with a new car? To refund you monetarily ?
I am sure they have had very wise counseling from their corporate legal team coupled with lawyers experienced in some matters to provide the response that they did.
They would also have looked at what has transpired in the industry here and beyond in other countries .
There is no case here for the first 2 to be awarded to you . It will be unprecedented and made so much more stronger when a no fault stance is being asserted by them (and supported by the manufacturer as the oem principal themselves has not issued a recall ). Even in the case of VW or other makes in the USA, it is just the recall to get a remedy done not a refund nor a replacement . Also such things as NVH (noise , vibration, harshness) are never spelled out as part of the warranty. So if you hoping for this , you can forget it. And if the GM is taking a personal interest , it means it suggests that they are doing everything that they can. It is a good move on their side since a mediation if offered by CASE to both sides (them and you) is preempted and will instead be deemed unnecessary since the senior management is already cooperating and personally trying to solve your problems.
You best bet is to get the problems properly rectified by the workshop and quickly .
Because if they did a
???? (a dragonfly skimming the surface of the water act ie superficial actions that never solve them), you also LL. Indeed you are like
????????????
(A grasshopper at the end of autumn, its days are numbered), since they need only to keep troubleshooting as per current status quo till the contractual warranty with you runs out.
Don't kid yourself .They already have thought many steps ahead of you. Yours will just be a scream in the dark, and afterwards silence. Any wrong move from you and they could counter sue you for libel, damages

Edited by EricChan, 13 March 2016 - 11:01 PM.

-Your Daughter fell asleep in 2.0 becos the car is bumpy, cradle like effect so she dozed off.
-Agree that 2.0 has little problem but you need to get used to the 19" Low profile tyres too.
-Current price for 2.0 is what many Bros here paid for their 1.2.
Believe if prices were to go down, garment will surely interven to make it go up. To achieve car lite, COE cannot come down.

Bro u ok anot 2.0 u call bumpy ah? Then I seriously don know what is call comfort to u liao.. Maybe last time u driving conti cars so u find that is bumpy..
19" low profile is nice seriously all the cars I drive before I usually change it to low profile so not a problem..
Ya I believe last time when u guys bought the 1.2 is now the 2.0 price..

Edited by JX83, 13 March 2016 - 11:14 PM.

Hi , do u think that the 1.2 reliability is on par with Nissan Latio or sunny . Read many negative comments in this forum . Now got new noise issue when braking . Is it a common problem ? Is the QQ 2.0 more reliable ?

Hi , do u think that the 1.2 reliability is on par with Nissan Latio or sunny . Read many negative comments in this forum . Now got new noise issue when braking . Is it a common problem ? Is the QQ 2.0 more reliable ?

Wrong place to be , the juicy stories have to be ong and Wendy .. I am hopping over there.

Edited by EricChan, 13 March 2016 - 11:43 PM.

Hi QQ enthusiasts!!

Hv been getting mixed signals about the QQ.
Am really thinking whther its a good buy for my parents.

i was thinking that 1.2 is econ for road tax, and engine turbo so got respectable power.

Thinking more frm angle of safety and practicality and good running costs.

Heard some bad feedbk abt aircon and loss of power. Also abt poor svc from Tan Chong.

Hope to get done honest feedbk from the QQ enthusiasts, thanks

Haha... The way you describe seen like just gotten your car licence. Anyway this is individual preference, I guess most of the 100k cost go to COE which is just a piece of online document.

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Actually I thought the way he type is like an old uncle with a bad command of english. Thus the choice (Altis) and the die hard fan attitude.

Hi QQ enthusiasts!!

Hv been getting mixed signals about the QQ.
Am really thinking whther its a good buy for my parents.

i was thinking that 1.2 is econ for road tax, and engine turbo so got respectable power.

Thinking more frm angle of safety and practicality and good running costs.

Heard some bad feedbk abt aircon and loss of power. Also abt poor svc from Tan Chong.

Hope to get done honest feedbk from the QQ enthusiasts, thanks

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Low running costs and good FC - True

Respectable power from 1.2T - Depends.. it performs like a 1.5L or 1.6L NA with earlier torque, that's all. Body still quite big. But enough for everyday drive.

Safety, practicality - True, lots of safety tech. Creature comforts. Generous space.

Handsome design - Exterior and interior.

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You should be more worried about quality issues.. like rattling in the cabin, powerloss issue (not sure if resolved), suspension noises over humps.

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As for poor servicing, which AD actually has good servicing one? My family had Mercedes Benz, Lexus, Jaguar, Renault, VW and Nissan over the years. None of them are actually good.

Actually I thought the way he type is like an old uncle with a bad command of english. Thus the choice (Altis) and the die hard fan attitude.

Low running costs and good FC - True
Respectable power from 1.2T - Depends.. it performs like a 1.5L or 1.6L NA with earlier torque, that's all. Body still quite big. But enough for everyday drive.
Safety, practicality - True, lots of safety tech. Creature comforts. Generous space.
Handsome design - Exterior and interior.

You should be more worried about quality issues.. like rattling in the cabin, powerloss issue (not sure if resolved), suspension noises over humps.

As for poor servicing, which AD actually has good servicing one? My family had Mercedes Benz, Lexus, Jaguar, Renault, VW and Nissan over the years. None of them are actually good.

So far on my ownship of car I found that Honda service team really did a great job. The car have never got any major breakdown. Regretted switching to Nissan.

Bro, good luck to your purchase. 2015 China's QQ is totally differ from our QQ.

I opened it up today! It's the correct version 2016??. Thankfully.... But missing instructions caused me much headache. after 20mins of looking at all the bolts and nuts, I kept everything back and emailed the seller for the instructions.

Out of the 4 versions, I bought the 2nd type. There's lots of sellers in taobao. Just choose one that you think can be trusted.

What is the end game for them?
To replace you with a new car? To refund you monetarily ?
I am sure they have had very wise counseling from their corporate legal team coupled with lawyers experienced in some matters to provide the response that they did.
They would also have looked at what has transpired in the industry here and beyond in other countries .
There is no case here for the first 2 to be awarded to you . It will be unprecedented and made so much more stronger when a no fault stance is being asserted by them (and supported by the manufacturer as the oem principal themselves has not issued a recall ). Even in the case of VW or other makes in the USA, it is just the recall to get a remedy done not a refund nor a replacement . Also such things as NVH (noise , vibration, harshness) are never spelled out as part of the warranty. So if you hoping for this , you can forget it. And if the GM is taking a personal interest , it means it suggests that they are doing everything that they can. It is a good move on their side since a mediation if offered by CASE to both sides (them and you) is preempted and will instead be deemed unnecessary since the senior management is already cooperating and personally trying to solve your problems.
You best bet is to get the problems properly rectified by the workshop and quickly .
Because if they did a
��水 (a dragonfly skimming the surface of the water act ie superficial actions that never solve them), you also LL. Indeed you are like
��蹦个没� 天�
(A grasshopper at the end of autumn, its days are numbered), since they need only to keep troubleshooting as per current status quo till the contractual warranty with you runs out.
Don't kid yourself .They already have thought many steps ahead of you. Yours will just be a scream in the dark, and afterwards silence. Any wrong move from you and they could counter sue you for libel, damages

Well recall as in update software; not to refund or so forth. Few cars were recalled for safety reasons. Weak valve, airbags, etc.. I'll in fact praise them if they did, rather than compromising drivers' lives.

Yeap, do agree with u. Am afraid that they will just play the 'i am trying to fix game till warranty runs out' game.

Edited by QashqiGrey, 14 March 2016 - 01:28 AM.

Hi QQ enthusiasts!!

Hv been getting mixed signals about the QQ.
Am really thinking whther its a good buy for my parents.

i was thinking that 1.2 is econ for road tax, and engine turbo so got respectable power.

Thinking more frm angle of safety and practicality and good running costs.

Heard some bad feedbk abt aircon and loss of power. Also abt poor svc from Tan Chong.

Hope to get done honest feedbk from the QQ enthusiasts, thanks

Get at your own risk. Minority facing problems, but once u do, TC's service std is really bad.

I opened it up today! It's the correct version 2016??. Thankfully.... But missing instructions caused me much headache. after 20mins of looking at all the bolts and nuts, I kept everything back and emailed the seller for the instructions.

Out of the 4 versions, I bought the 2nd type. There's lots of sellers in taobao. Just choose one that you think can be trusted.

Bro Congra for your purchase.

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I dun think they hv instructions, most of WS can install without problem.

Regards [thumbsup]

Hi , do u think that the 1.2 reliability is on par with Nissan Latio or sunny . Read many negative comments in this forum . Now got new noise issue when braking . Is it a common problem ? Is the QQ 2.0 more reliable ?

Very rarely see negative feedback on the 2l here.
Did you check out other similar car makes before you buy ?

Very rarely see negative feedback on the 2l here.
Did you check out other similar car makes before you buy ?

Morning Cashcow , did test Subaru xv , Mazda 3 , K3 . But prefer QQ design and interior . If its reliability is the same as Latio . I will be ok with it . Not comfortable with the power loss and brake clicking sound . If minor rattling I still ok .

Hi , do u think that the 1.2 reliability is on par with Nissan Latio or sunny . Read many negative comments in this forum . Now got new noise issue when braking . Is it a common problem ? Is the QQ 2.0 more reliable ?

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As good if not better la.. Both Sunny EX and Latio Premium also had its fair share of issues, teething problems that were ironed out over time. For QQ 5 years unlimited mileage warranty no worries.�

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My QQ coming to 40K km liao (touch wood, no such issues).. now sourcing for tyres. The Continentals getting noisy at this mileage. [laugh] ��

Bro u ok anot 2.0 u call bumpy ah? Then I seriously don know what is call comfort to u liao.. Maybe last time u driving conti cars so u find that is bumpy..
19" low profile is nice seriously all the cars I drive before I usually change it to low profile so not a problem..
Ya I believe last time when u guys bought the 1.2 is now the 2.0 price..

Haha..my previous ride is Toyota. First time on Low profile tyres and first time driving crossover. Maybe I'm not used to it yet or maybe l shouldn't compare with sedan car in term of comfort and road noise.

I opened it up today! It's the correct version 2016??. Thankfully.... But missing instructions caused me much headache. after 20mins of looking at all the bolts and nuts, I kept everything back and emailed the seller for the instructions.

Out of the 4 versions, I bought the 2nd type. There's lots of sellers in taobao. Just choose one that you think can be trusted.

Fyi, TC BT cannot do tyre rotation for 10k servicing with the side steps on.

Fyi, TC BT cannot do tyre rotation for 10k servicing with the side steps on.

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Huh? what's the reason?

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Cannot jack up the car?

It's the bus lane warning.

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Thanks to all the bros that replied. It's not speed cause it only chimes when I am travelling very slowly and never on the highway. So it's bus lane warning. But good to know that it can alert for speed too.
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https://m.youtube.co...h?v=fGf5j7wzjX8
Is this normal? Clicking sound...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fGf5j7wzjX8

Is this normal? Loud clicking sound...

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I'm not sure if its the same thing but my 2 month old QQ started having strange brake pedal behaviour too.

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It started when I parking the car. My wheel was turned, and when I stepped on the brakes to go into reverse, it made a mechanical click sound. It felt like there was an additional amount of "give" in the brake pedal that wasn't there before. It's like a light tap would only move the pedal but not engage the brake until after the "click", although the brake light would still be lit.

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So because I was curious, I kept tapping on the brake pedal to get feel of it. That was when the brake pedal suddenly "locked up" in the raised position, meaning I can't press down on it anymore. Good thing I was already parked so I turned off the engine, waited for a moment before turning it back on. Thankfully, the brake "released" and I could press it all the way down again. The clicking also mysteriously disappeared. Everything felt engaged as it should.

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Was this similar to anyone else's experience?

Fyi, TC BT cannot do tyre rotation for 10k servicing with the side steps on.

Can always do it outside. $20-25 only small $$$.
No hope for TC WS, if not warranty issue, will just do all the servicing outside.

Fyi, TC BT cannot do tyre rotation for 10k servicing with the side steps on.

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what joke? cannot jack up car?

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I just went for 5k servicing last week�with my side steps installed and�if cannot jack up car how they drained the engine oil, change oil filter�and check the undercarriage?

Edited by Mred1-2, 14 March 2016 - 10:44 AM.

I'm not sure if its the same thing but my 2 month old QQ started having strange brake pedal behaviour too.

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It started when I parking the car. My wheel was turned, and when I stepped on the brakes to go into reverse, it made a mechanical click sound. It felt like there was an additional amount of "give" in the brake pedal that wasn't there before. It's like a light tap would only move the pedal but not engage the brake until after the "click", although the brake light would still be lit.

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So because I was curious, I kept tapping on the brake pedal to get feel of it. That was when the brake pedal suddenly "locked up" in the raised position, meaning I can't press down on it anymore. Good thing I was already parked so I turned off the engine, waited for a moment before turning it back on. Thankfully, the brake "released" and I could press it all the way down again. The clicking also mysteriously disappeared. Everything felt engaged as it should.

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Was this similar to anyone else's experience?

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Is it the mechanical switch "click" sound when you put ur gear in park and step on the brakes?

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your brakes�is fully pressurised�as u�were "pumping" ur brakes when you keep stepping on it.

Huh? what's the reason?

Cannot jack up the car?

SA told me that their ramp cannot lift up the car because of my side steps. Imo their tyre mechanic is not willing to go the extra miles for customers.

Can always do it outside. $20-25 only small $$$.
No hope for TC WS, if not warranty issue, will just do all the servicing outside.

I know, I will rotate my tyre outside. I could do it with 2 jacks by myself if I want to.

what joke? cannot jack up car?

I just went for 5k servicing last week with my side steps installed and if cannot jack up car how they drained the engine oil, change oil filter and check the undercarriage?

Precisely! TC WS is a joke.

SA told me that their ramp cannot lift up the car because of my side steps. Imo their tyre mechanic is not willing to go the extra miles for customers.

I know, I will rotate my tyre outside. I could do it with 2 jacks by myself if I want to.

Precisely! TC WS is a joke.

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think if we buy 4 pcs new tyres they will go extra 2 miles... haha

SA told me that their ramp cannot lift up the car because of my side steps. Imo their tyre mechanic is not willing to go the extra miles for customers.

I know, I will rotate my tyre outside. I could do it with 2 jacks by myself if I want to.

Precisely! TC WS is a joke.

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Bro, not true. My svcing was at BT and they can jack up the car with my side steps.

SA told me that their ramp cannot lift up the car because of my side steps. Imo their tyre mechanic is not willing to go the extra miles for customers.

I know, I will rotate my tyre outside. I could do it with 2 jacks by myself if I want to.

Precisely! TC WS is a joke.

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Usually for proper rotation, you have to do high speed rebalancing of your rims/tyres before rotating.

For the side step it depends on the the design and installation. Some installer installed the support bar in the location where TC needs to jack up the car. So if your car can't be jack up, it's likely your side step is installed wrongly, or there is something wrong with the design. When I first went with my side step the SA checked and confirmed mine is ok and he said some are installed wrongly so their machine can't jack it up.

Edited by Tazzi80, 14 March 2016 - 12:26 PM.

Is it the mechanical switch "click" sound when you put ur gear in park and step on the brakes?

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your brakes�is fully pressurised�as u�were "pumping" ur brakes when you keep stepping on it.

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I wasn't in park mode when it started, but my wheels were turned. I was depressing the brakes to stop to switch to reverse gear. Its not a switch type of "click", more like

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Stage 1 - there is a gap between 2 parts somewhere while the brakes fully released

Stage 2 - depressing the brakes the resistance is very light

Stage 3 - the 2 parts finally touch resulting in the click and the usual brake resistance returns

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Almost like the brake pads were suddenly removed and the clamping action has very light resistance until the brake clamps actually touch the disc itself before the normal resistance returned. If that makes sense at all.� [confused]

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I was "pumping" the brakes between stage 2 and 3 and each time the click would sound at the stage 3. The strange thing is after switching off the engine and then starting, this behaviour disappeared. But it happened again yesterday. Same trigger when my wheels were turned and it started until I turned off the engine.

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Wondering if I should bring it to TC workshop to have it looked into.

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