Thứ Sáu, 9 tháng 12, 2016

Nissan Qashqai 2014 part 61

  • 12 January 2016 - 09:12 AM
    EricChan

    Been to service centre at Bukit Timah, Leng Kee and Toa Payoh.. Sad to say, all give me "cin cai cin cai" un-pro ???? feel.

    Still under the free servicing period, hence will still go back TC service centre.

    After that, definitely won't go back TC.

    Wah. You not taking up their 2 yearly/ 40k Nissan Preventive Maintenance Program. Covers materials and labour . Reasonable cost.
    Car 5 year warranty conditional on having servicing done at their workshops during the period in case something unforeseen goes kaput. Some risk if so.
    Don't discount the people because of appearance , behaviors . Technically very skilled people don't come across as customer savvy at all. Of course there will be a range of them there possessing different skill level . As is anywhere. Some young some old. Some less experienced. Some good some not so good.
    AD workshops have advantage of being in the loop with the manufacturer on chronic, hard to solve, complicated problems and possibly with training and training materials from the manufacturer as well. At least the parts are genuine. They have the Advantage of doing only Nissan cars therefore getting better understanding rather than handling all types of cars: potentially a jack of all trades , master of none with latter

    Edited by EricChan, 12 January 2016 - 09:34 AM.

  • 12 January 2016 - 09:34 AM
    richard_crl032

    How's that brake pad? Better? Less dust? Will that void any car warranty?

    Yes ...certainly less dust ...why void warranty ? More progressive and less abrupt braking ...more Jap than Conti ...like my Estima compared to my Merc E class

    Edited by richard_crl032, 12 January 2016 - 09:36 AM.

  • 12 January 2016 - 09:53 AM
    Meemee

    Yes ...certainly less dust ...why void warranty ? More progressive and less abrupt braking ...more Jap than Conti ...like my Estima compared to my Merc E class

    Warrenty is over rated
  • 12 January 2016 - 09:55 AM
    Fuelsaver

    SLK I dunno cos I haven't have the honor of driving it. For the roc, isn't it twincharged(super/turbo combo). I've driven the roc and did not notice any significant lag from force induction. If you are referring to the initial lag from stop, I think that more of how the throttle is mapped rather than the turbo itself. I read that it's mapped like that to protect the DSG from sudden torque surge. Even the GTI drives like that. Maybe your throttle controller might have remaped it to eliminate that initial lag so you get better response. What brand of throttle controller did you use?

    Anyway my comments on managing expectations is not directed to you lah, its a general statement. Cos there are some who thinks QQ got turbo means powerful or QQ only 1.2 no power...without even actually testing the car.

    Started reading thus thread fr 250 onwards after weekend test drive of 1.2qq.

    I agree w u on throttling issue. Tested vw touran twin charged. Accel had to be depressed further to feel surge or even wheel spin; pedal calib wasn't linear like jap Car.

    The 1.2qq definitely good pickup for city drive. i depressed pedal further in both d mode n manual mode, response ok like normal auto. The cvt better than mitsubishi invecs iii cvt. test driven mit asx. Mit one only hear loud drone n rubber band effect, think should consider improving mit cvt.

    Overall quite pleased w smaller cc qq, if only interior trims n ceiling light switch quality can b improved.
  • 12 January 2016 - 10:02 AM
    cooldragon76

    Wah. You not taking up their 2 yearly/ 40k Nissan Preventive Maintenance Program. Covers materials and labour . Reasonable cost.
    Car 5 year warranty conditional on having servicing done at their workshops during the period in case something unforeseen goes kaput. Some risk if so.
    Don't discount the people because of appearance , behaviors . Technically very skilled people don't come across as customer savvy at all. Of course there will be a range of them there possessing different skill level . As is anywhere. Some young some old. Some less experienced. Some good some not so good.
    AD workshops have advantage of being in the loop with the manufacturer on chronic, hard to solve, complicated problems and possibly with training and training materials from the manufacturer as well. At least the parts are genuine. They have the Advantage of doing only Nissan cars therefore getting better understanding rather than handling all types of cars: potentially a jack of all trades , master of none with latter

    Ya, I got take up the program, as such will still going to TC.. Only after tat will think to change..

    Those services I find "cincai" is their attitude,�can say "ya ya ya" to you then end up nvr do.. forgot to do or simply just don bother

    once I went service telling them the tyre is over inflated and they say ya, ya, will adjust to correct pressure, end up car taken back, few days, went check pressure, still as high as before..

    once I call, make appointment for servicing including defect solar film with bubble, then they arrange everything le, on the day for servicing, told me solar people not able to do on tat day

    once after service, they forgot to set the Maintenance setting, then few days later the message show on screen without anything else.. first time handling this car, make me so nervous, call Sales agent, he told me MUST go down service centre to reset. Call to book appointment, telling the purpose, the lady say have to go down and ask the technician to reset.. on the day, the technician teach me (stupid me.. hahaha) actually can play with the button and reset myself..

    don mention on the dropping IU, which make me back to TC 4 times,�with everytime promises won't drop again.. 2 times at Bukit Timah de lagi tokong.. the second time went, the staff told me the technician use the "WRONG" sticker.. although all are those small small matter, but all these make me worry everytime after service.. don know this time wat r they going to forget again... [smash]


  • 12 January 2016 - 10:03 AM
    EricChan

    Started reading thus thread fr 250 onwards after weekend test drive of 1.2qq.

    I agree w u on throttling issue. Tested vw touran twin charged. Accel had to be depressed further to feel surge or even wheel spin; pedal calib wasn't linear like jap Car.

    The 1.2qq definitely good pickup for city drive. i depressed pedal further in both d mode n manual mode, response ok like normal auto. The cvt better than mitsubishi invecs iii cvt. test driven mit asx. Mit one only hear loud drone n rubber band effect, think should consider improving mit cvt.

    Overall quite pleased w smaller cc qq, if only interior trims n ceiling light switch quality can b improved.

    Wanted to welcome you but you already a super Lao Jiao because you got many points (how can you get that many anyway). Happy reading
  • 12 January 2016 - 10:06 AM
    Mred1-2

    Eric, you are correct about distribution but all cars depends about 70-80% on the front brakes and hence you end up changing fronts pads 3x more often.
    Conti cars have bite and abrupt brakes e.g. Merc, BMW etc. and you will also have the same dust issue.
    Like me and some bros, we changed to NiBk front brake pad at sgd95 at Vision Garage to the dust and revert back to more Japanese like peogressive braking. Other bros simply spray the stock rim black or bronze.
    Hope this help.
    Richard
    More like over inflated to cater for shipment and storage time.
    Ok for standard servicing but yes, they could not diagnose choked water tubing of screen wiper after 4 weeks from car collection which ubi did so.
    Bukit Timah is their best equipped center and training center

    The over inflate tyres is not just for new car collection, I noticed they do that after servicing as well.

    Brake dust have to live with it.

    In my opinion, something has to wear off due to the frictions applied and I rather it to be�the brake pads then the brake disc.

    Good brake pads should be soft and quiet on the brake disc, don't generate too much heat with good frictions. Of cos less dust is a bonus provided the above is not compromised. �


  • 12 January 2016 - 10:06 AM
    Fuelsaver

    Wanted to welcome you but you already a super Lao Jiao because you got many points (how can you get that many anyway). Happy reading

    No la, I'm still newbie at heart, participating in car talks every vnow n then. My pts little if u consider the many other laojiaos who has more posts, yet far more points. U need to make good n constructive comments to get more praises, hence more pts.
  • 12 January 2016 - 10:07 AM
    EricChan

    Ya, I got take up the program, as such will still going to TC.. Only after tat will think to change..
    Those services I find "cincai" is their attitude, can say "ya ya ya" to you then end up nvr do.. forgot to do or simply just don bother
    once I went service telling them the tyre is over inflated and they say ya, ya, will adjust to correct pressure, end up car taken back, few days, went check pressure, still as high as before..
    once I call, make appointment for servicing including defect solar film with bubble, then they arrange everything le, on the day for servicing, told me solar people not able to do on tat day
    once after service, they forgot to set the Maintenance setting, then few days later the message show on screen without anything else.. first time handling this car, make me so nervous, call Sales agent, he told me MUST go down service centre to reset. Call to book appointment, telling the purpose, the lady say have to go down and ask the technician to reset.. on the day, the technician teach me (stupid me.. hahaha) actually can play with the button and reset myself..
    don mention on the dropping IU, which make me back to TC 4 times, with everytime promises won't drop again.. 2 times at Bukit Timah de lagi tokong.. the second time went, the staff told me the technician use the "WRONG" sticker.. although all are those small small matter, but all these make me worry everytime after service.. don know this time wat r they going to forget again... [smash]

    The saying the devil you know is better than the devil you don't ..
    At least you can bang table, vent your relief valve at them and they will still entertain you respectfully as a customer ( mistakes aside). Try doing it at outside workshop
    and when it is blatantly their mistake or cover up.
    Then it will be from the frying pan into the fire

    Edited by EricChan, 12 January 2016 - 10:10 AM.

  • 12 January 2016 - 10:09 AM
    Mred1-2

    Wanted to welcome you but you already a super Lao Jiao because you got many points (how can you get that many anyway). Happy reading

    Bro, he member since 2009 leh.

    You aso not bad status already in "2nd gear", I'm still in "clutched" mode... haha.


  • 12 January 2016 - 10:10 AM
    Voxy28

    Wanted to welcome you but you already a super Lao Jiao because you got many points (how can you get that many anyway). Happy reading

    what is this point thingy?


  • 12 January 2016 - 10:11 AM
    Fuelsaver

    Side note, can welcome me as qq newbie since ive just test driven recently. qq has just given me a tough time to decide btw vezel n xv...
  • 12 January 2016 - 10:12 AM
    EricChan

    Bro, he member since 2009 leh.
    You aso not bad status already in "2nd gear", I'm still in "clutched" mode... haha.

    Serious different league look at his points in the thousands . Ok Let me praise u if I haven't done so previously and put u in a higher orbit
  • 12 January 2016 - 10:12 AM
    Voxy28

    Side note, can welcome me as qq newbie since ive just test driven recently. qq has just given me a tough time to decide btw vezel n xv...

    Haha.. welcome old bird.�

    If you are looking for fuel saving, this is the right car....� [smash]


  • 12 January 2016 - 10:14 AM
    EricChan

    what is this point thingy?

    He has 4810 points against his name.
  • 12 January 2016 - 10:15 AM
    Mh23

    New side step installed (item from China)

    Laoda, thank you for ordering for me the side steps. Loved it!

    Attached Thumbnails

    • 20160110_074732.jpg

    Edited by Mh23, 12 January 2016 - 10:16 AM.

  • 12 January 2016 - 10:18 AM
    Mred1-2

    Serious different league look at his points in the thousands . Ok Let me praise u if I haven't done so previously and put u in a higher orbit

    Lol... thanks bro, I think you did it already some time back.

    But the points don't really matter much to me anyway.


  • 12 January 2016 - 10:20 AM
    Voxy28


    Overall quite pleased w smaller cc qq, if only interior trims n ceiling light switch quality can b improved.

    This one easy lah... get the x trail ones and mod lor. [laugh]... just kidding

    For-Nissan-X-Trail-Rogue-2014-2015-ABS-P


  • 12 January 2016 - 10:21 AM
    Fuelsaver

    Haha.. welcome old bird.

    If you are looking for fuel saving, this is the right car.... [smash]

    Ya I'm aware. But so far vezel has most impressive fc. Xv fc lower due to awd n heaviest body but current facelift suit my taste n interior quality nicest, even leather for all 3 shortlisted r locally wrapped.
  • 12 January 2016 - 10:29 AM
    Voxy28

    Ya I'm aware. But so far vezel has most impressive fc. Xv fc lower due to awd n heaviest body but current facelift suit my taste n interior quality nicest, even leather for all 3 shortlisted r locally wrapped.

    What is vezel FC? Not my top priority when I chose the car... but definitely one of the factor. So far I see some bros here clocking some impressive numbers. We didnt even check out the XV bec wife dont like Subaru... [bigcry]


    Edited by Voxy28, 12 January 2016 - 10:30 AM.

  • 12 January 2016 - 10:29 AM
    NissanQQ

    Yes ...certainly less dust ...why void warranty ? More progressive and less abrupt braking ...more Jap than Conti ...like my Estima compared to my Merc E class

    I have to agree with you. The QQ 1.2T has more bite and abrupt braking compared to my previous made in Japan Nissan Sunny. I noticed that the black brake dust was very thick when the car was brand new. After ~5 months of driving the black dust is still there but not as thick.


  • 12 January 2016 - 10:31 AM
    Wildfaye29

    Does the NPMP do tyre rotation+balancing every 10k? (for all 4 tyres)


    Edited by Wildfaye29, 12 January 2016 - 10:33 AM.

  • 12 January 2016 - 10:37 AM
    Fuelsaver

    This one easy lah... get the x trail ones and mod lor. [laugh]... just kidding

    For-Nissan-X-Trail-Rogue-2014-2015-ABS-P

    wa bro, so fast hand fast leg in ur reply.

    if possible it will b good. Actually my 8yo tucson better fit n finsh at this part, really. Quite reluctant to see it scrapped or transferred but to hope for a better fc n nvr worn drivetrain is impossible, sigh, even with inanimate item ???????? principle still applies.

    What is vezel FC? Not my top priority when I chose the car... but definitely one of the factor. So far I see some bros here clocking some impressive numbers. We didnt even check out the XV bec wife dont like Subaru... [bigcry]

    From lowest of 12 to highest of 17 kml.

    Qq should b around 12-14 kml n xv around 11-13 kml.

    Checkout is free, give urself n wife a chance. Interior wilk not disappoint but pickup not as fantastic. I wonder if using nissan xtronic cvt will suit xv better..
  • 12 January 2016 - 10:37 AM
    Voxy28

    wa bro, so fast hand fast leg in ur reply.

    if possible it will b good. Actually my 8yo tucson better fit n finsh at this part, really. Quite reluctant to see it scrapped or transferred but to hope for a better fc n nvr worn drivetrain is impossible, sigh, even with inanimate item ???????? principle still applies.

    Haha.. today I very free....�

    There is write up comparing the HRV, CX3 and QQ by what car.

    http://www.whatcar.c...qashqai/1367058

    Anyway if u buy XV, you got less people to talk to in the forum.. lol

    QQ FC is from 11.5-18 �KM/L


    Edited by Voxy28, 12 January 2016 - 10:39 AM.

  • 12 January 2016 - 10:39 AM
    Marcostan

    How much is the side step & where did you get it from?

    Can get the group buy?

    The sidestep link as follow, this seller have 4 differ design and was proven can install in our QQ:

    https://item.taobao....126&ns=1#detail


  • 12 January 2016 - 10:40 AM
    NissanQQ

    What is vezel FC? Not my top priority when I chose the car... but definitely one of the factor. So far I see some bros here clocking some impressive numbers. We didnt even check out the XV bec wife dont like Subaru... [bigcry]

    on the subject of fuel consumption, it depends. I have tried driving from west to Changi Airport and back; approx 90km in total ( ECO mode off, Start/Stop Off), 10% city drive the rest AYE/MCE/ECP, the onboard computer show 21.4km/ litre. This is the record in my car setting.

    On most days, when I drive to work, usually city driving (lots of traffic lights and jam), the on board computer can range from 11km/ litre to 14km/litre depending on traffic (ECO mode off and Start/Stop off). But I usually take an average (pertrol pumped/ mileage) and the average is about 13km to 15km per litre. Have stopped monitoring the FC since it is just a number.


  • 12 January 2016 - 10:40 AM
    Marcostan

    Nice! Thinking of installing for my kids to climb up n down.
    Since they are "trained" to install the side steps, mind sharing which workshop you went to?
    Are the side steps install on existing bolts holes or need drilling?

    No drilling need, just plug & play

    Please google VIM is the place I install the step.


  • 12 January 2016 - 10:42 AM
    Mred1-2

    Laoda, thank you for ordering for me the side steps. Loved it!

    bro, how much and where you installed it?

    this side step looks slick and not protruding too much.�


  • 12 January 2016 - 10:49 AM
    Mh23

    bro, how much and where you installed it?

    this side step looks slick and not protruding too much.�

    Got from tabobao..... Install together with Marcostan... VIM Auto for installation.


  • 12 January 2016 - 10:50 AM
    Cashcow007

    I have to agree with you. The QQ 1.2T has more bite and abrupt braking compared to my previous made in Japan Nissan Sunny. I noticed that the black brake dust was very thick when the car was brand new. After ~5 months of driving the black dust is still there but not as thick.

    With respect to the braking "power" of the 1.2T QQ, I agree too.


  • 12 January 2016 - 11:10 AM
    Voxy28

    The sidestep link as follow, this seller have 4 differ design and was proven can install in our QQ:

    https://item.taobao....126&ns=1#detail

    I like this best

    ???��????

    TB2z5P8hXXXXXcDXXXXXXXXXXXX_!!855081743.


  • 12 January 2016 - 11:19 AM
    Mred1-2

    I like this best

    ???��????

    TB2z5P8hXXXXXcDXXXXXXXXXXXX_!!855081743.

    same same... want or not? who can help me order? I'm nuts if ordering from taobao.


  • 12 January 2016 - 11:28 AM
    Fuelsaver

    Haha.. today I very free....�

    There is write up comparing the HRV, CX3 and QQ by what car.

    http://www.whatcar.c...qashqai/1367058

    Anyway if u buy XV, you got less people to talk to in the forum.. lol

    QQ FC is from 11.5-18 �KM/L

    18kml is spec right? realistically, i think unless it's a hybrid, not very possible.


  • 12 January 2016 - 11:46 AM
    Fuelsaver

    I like this best

    ???��????

    TB2z5P8hXXXXXcDXXXXXXXXXXXX_!!855081743.

    i think side skirt will look better than side step; this ride too low for it.


  • 12 January 2016 - 11:48 AM
    EricChan

    same same... want or not? who can help me order? I'm nuts if ordering from taobao.

    Sorry for raining on your parade but how cleanable is that part of the car after installation, can it be a dirt trap ?
  • 12 January 2016 - 12:00 PM
    EricChan
    Coming Friday and weekend is the suntec car show . Already people are eyeing it for its models. Wonder who will be coming , something like this will be good (sorry blackyv but I am weak and couldn't resist posting this pic. And breaking my word . Please excuse me)
    image.jpeg

    Edited by EricChan, 12 January 2016 - 12:01 PM.

  • 12 January 2016 - 12:03 PM
    Mred1-2

    Sorry for raining on your parade but how cleanable is that part of the car after installation, can it be a dirt trap ?

    confirm will be dirty, outside is okay.. but mainly I need them for�my kids to climb up n down, rather then with their hands climbing on the floor board and shoes stepping on the door sills.


    Coming Friday and weekend is the suntec car show . Already people are eyeing it for its models. Wonder who will be coming , something like this will be good (sorry blackyv but I am weak and couldn't resist posting this pic. And breaking my word . Please excuse me)
    attachicon.gifimage.jpeg

    something nice to see during lunch break. [laugh]


  • 12 January 2016 - 12:03 PM
    Renren85

    Hi all, question to all nissan owners, can anyone give me some advice on the nissan preventive maintenance program (NPMP). Is it advisable to sign up for it? Thanks!


  • 12 January 2016 - 12:09 PM
    EricChan

    Hi all, question to all nissan owners, can anyone give me some advice on the nissan preventive maintenance program (NPMP). Is it advisable to sign up for it? Thanks!

    I would . 1. Warranty is not void 2. It is cheaper by ard 25% than individual servicing. 3. Not too expensive. 4. Fetch a higher price if you do sell to a 2nd owner later (better assurance to him that car was properly maintained from day 1. 5. Risk managed i.e. Catastrophic risk of a major component failure (very very very remote but sway sway 1 in a million chance is you) has TC to honor its warranty

    Edited by EricChan, 12 January 2016 - 12:34 PM.

  • 12 January 2016 - 01:05 PM
    Ldawn88

    Haha.. welcome old bird.�

    If you are looking for fuel saving, this is the right car....� [smash]

    I am still not able to say QQ saves fuel. For the same pattern of driving, QQ actually drinks more than my previous ride. Maybe not a fair comparison. my allion could achieve 14 to 15km/l easiy. But for QQ, it's around 11.3km/l usually.


  • 12 January 2016 - 02:18 PM
    Cashcow007

    I am still not able to say QQ saves fuel. For the same pattern of driving, QQ actually drinks more than my previous ride. Maybe not a fair comparison. my allion could achieve 14 to 15km/l easiy. But for QQ, it's around 11.3km/l usually.

    When price of each oil barrel returns to US$ 100, which was the price not too long ago, then we can utilise all the "ammunitions" available in the QQ such as ECO, Start/Stop, unchecked engine brake, or even up the tyre pressure �:)�


  • 12 January 2016 - 02:48 PM
    Ldawn88

    Actually the price of petrol has not dropped much although crude oil price fell to current level.

    When price of each oil barrel returns to US$ 100, which was the price not too long ago, then we can utilise all the "ammunitions" available in the QQ such as ECO, Start/Stop, unchecked engine brake, or even up the tyre pressure �:)�


  • 12 January 2016 - 03:36 PM
    orangemonkey

    I am still not able to say QQ saves fuel. For the same pattern of driving, QQ actually drinks more than my previous ride. Maybe not a fair comparison. my allion could achieve 14 to 15km/l easiy. But for QQ, it's around 11.3km/l usually.

    Bro, what model is your QQ?
  • 12 January 2016 - 03:39 PM
    Ldawn88

    Bro, what model is your QQ?

    1.2 Dig-T
  • 12 January 2016 - 03:57 PM
    orangemonkey

    1.2 Dig-T

    Maybe the turbo consumed more fuel in exchange for extra power.
  • 12 January 2016 - 04:29 PM
    Marcostan

    Sorry for raining on your parade but how cleanable is that part of the car after installation, can it be a dirt trap ?

    Dirt trap I dun know, but I find out beside my regular mudguards, the step act as another long mudguard and really prevent to dirt the lower part of the 4 doors [thumbsup]


    same same... want or not? who can help me order? I'm nuts if ordering from taobao.

    Bro register �with 65daigou and buy the step through them and ship to Singapore [thumbsup]


  • 12 January 2016 - 05:14 PM
    EricChan

    Dirt trap I dun know, but I find out beside my regular mudguards, the step act as another long mudguard and really prevent to dirt the lower part of the 4 doors [thumbsup]

    Bro register with 65daigou and buy the step through them and ship to Singapore [thumbsup]

    Marcostan, good feedback.
    Mred1-2, I thought mash mash wanted to consolidate the buys from interested forumers,
    Mash mash pm the best way ? Or just start a running list here - of who , what accessories they want and everyone keep adding to the list until all interested parties have put down their requests in the list .

    Edited by EricChan, 12 January 2016 - 05:17 PM.

  • 12 January 2016 - 05:23 PM
    Marcostan

    Marcostan, good feedback.
    Mred1-2, I thought mash mash wanted to consolidate the buys from interested forumers,
    Mash mash pm the best way ? Or just start a running list here - of who , what accessories they want and everyone keep adding to the list until all interested parties have put down their requests in the list .

    Group buy for side step is not advisable, it is long and heavy stuff.

    Weight +/- 15kg and 180cm long. �

    The best way is buy your own one, ship to ur home and the best you can have you installer address to receive the step. �Save all the trouble of transport the step.

    Just my 2 cents.


  • 12 January 2016 - 06:19 PM
    Blackyv

    When price of each oil barrel returns to US$ 100, which was the price not too long ago, then we can utilise all the "ammunitions" available in the QQ such as ECO, Start/Stop, unchecked engine brake, or even up the tyre pressure �:)�

    drive a B&B car need to be so pitiful meh?... i drive the same way and same setting regardless of petrol price.... let the car be a slave to you, not the other way round to enjoy driving... [grin]


  • 12 January 2016 - 08:33 PM
    EricChan

    drive a B&B car need to be so pitiful meh?... i drive the same way and same setting regardless of petrol price.... let the car be a slave to you, not the other way round to enjoy driving... [grin]

    Your first part of the comment is strictly speaking non-cogent. If you say drive a luxury car need to be so pitiful meh, I would agree (since you can afford a luxury car). But you said drive a b&b car need to be so pitiful meh, certainly could be so because that why you drive a b&b car - for its cost. See the logic?

    Edited by EricChan, 12 January 2016 - 08:33 PM.

  • 12 January 2016 - 08:39 PM
    Chrispie
    There is no such thing as bnb car in Singapore.
  • 12 January 2016 - 08:45 PM
    EricChan

    There is no such thing as bnb car in Singapore.

    Agree fully .
  • 12 January 2016 - 09:35 PM
    Credor

    I would . 1. Warranty is not void 2. It is cheaper by ard 25% than individual servicing. 3. Not too expensive. 4. Fetch a higher price if you do sell to a 2nd owner later (better assurance to him that car was properly maintained from day 1. 5. Risk managed i.e. Catastrophic risk of a major component failure (very very very remote but sway sway 1 in a million chance is you) has TC to honor its warranty


    this NPMP must be sign straight after 10k servicing or just before doing the 20k ... Any idea?
  • 12 January 2016 - 09:40 PM
    NissanQQ

    When price of each oil barrel returns to US$ 100, which was the price not too long ago, then we can utilise all the "ammunitions" available in the QQ such as ECO, Start/Stop, unchecked engine brake, or even up the tyre pressure �:)�

    Basically i do not like the slow pickup of the QQ1.2T and the laggy drive when the ECO mode is on. So I doubt I will change when the oil price is back up to US$100. The fuel consumption currently achieved by me without using ECO and Start/Stop is already better than my previous car (when petrol price was record high). No incentive to change :-)


  • 12 January 2016 - 09:46 PM
    Blackyv

    Your first part of the comment is strictly speaking non-cogent. If you say drive a luxury car need to be so pitiful meh, I would agree (since you can afford a luxury car). But you said drive a b&b car need to be so pitiful meh, certainly could be so because that why you drive a b&b car - for its cost. See the logic?


    Ummmmm.. The logic is as long can afford to drive a b&b car already a luxury and if those few tenths of dollar of petrol also wanna save every month, isn't that pitiful? Or maybe I should use the word pathetic?... Hehe....
  • 12 January 2016 - 09:57 PM
    Gt5454

    on the subject of fuel consumption, it depends. I have tried driving from west to Changi Airport and back; approx 90km in total ( ECO mode off, Start/Stop Off), 10% city drive the rest AYE/MCE/ECP, the onboard computer show 21.4km/ litre. This is the record in my car setting.
    On most days, when I drive to work, usually city driving (lots of traffic lights and jam), the on board computer can range from 11km/ litre to 14km/litre depending on traffic (ECO mode off and Start/Stop off). But I usually take an average (pertrol pumped/ mileage) and the average is about 13km to 15km per litre. Have stopped monitoring the FC since it is just a number.

    Can the Eco and start/stop switched off permanately or need to manuall switch it off every time the engine is started? Thanks.
  • 12 January 2016 - 10:02 PM
    DerekLauFlowerGoose

    Can the Eco and start/stop switched off permanately or need to manuall switch it off every time the engine is started? Thanks.

    For eco mode you only need to set once. For start/stop you will need to press every time you start the engine.
  • 12 January 2016 - 10:21 PM
    Voxy28

    Your first part of the comment is strictly speaking non-cogent. If you say drive a luxury car need to be so pitiful meh, I would agree (since you can afford a luxury car). But you said drive a b&b car need to be so pitiful meh, certainly could be so because that why you drive a b&b car - for its cost. See the logic?

    I think for 1.2T, the mileage topic is always a discussion point bec this was one of its attractive selling point. Moreover people also compare to ensure their rides behave normally.

    Few years ago in anoher forum, a S5 owner complaining about his fuel consumption and this are the type that totally lost the plot of buying and owning a sports car. For me, QQ is a good to have car bec it is new. Bnb car are those left with 2 yrs Altis, sunny, latio, jazz etc.

    I think just enjoy the ride lah, this car still attract some lookers. Most likely potential buyers... Hee hee.

    Can the Eco and start/stop switched off permanately or need to manuall switch it off every time the engine is started? Thanks.

    I think leave the start stop on when u are on light load and lower demand from aircon.... It is quite ok to save some co2 emission. But when it is hot and u need the aircon.... Turn it off. During rainy days I leave it on.... On hot days turn it off.

    My friend A3 had it disabled perm bec it screw up the electronics...lol

    Edited by Voxy28, 12 January 2016 - 10:23 PM.

  • 12 January 2016 - 10:50 PM
    Zqrtsdv

    hello all, first post after lurking for a couple of years. just booked my QQ 1.2 from TC today at a reasonable price and good trade in value. SE guaranteed delivery by last week jan with earliest bidding this thurs.

    looking to do pp, thinsulate, horn and cob boot and underdoor light. any thoughts on that?


  • 12 January 2016 - 11:01 PM
    Mash_Mash

    Marcostan, good feedback.
    Mred1-2, I thought mash mash wanted to consolidate the buys from interested forumers,
    Mash mash pm the best way ? Or just start a running list here - of who , what accessories they want and everyone keep adding to the list until all interested parties have put down their requests in the list .

    Tried registering with 65daigou, but somehow or rather is not successful....

    Wondering if any bros buying and I tag along with the purchases [:p]

    Marcostan suggestion is great!

    Or maybe we can find a reliable workshop to buy on our behalf, then we send in our car for them to install? [confused]


  • 12 January 2016 - 11:49 PM
    Meemee

    hello all, first post after lurking for a couple of years. just booked my QQ 1.2 from TC today at a reasonable price and good trade in value. SE guaranteed delivery by last week jan with earliest bidding this thurs.

    looking to do pp, thinsulate, horn and cob boot and underdoor light. any thoughts on that?

    Meemee is your answer :)
  • 13 January 2016 - 05:56 AM
    EricChan

    Does the NPMP do tyre rotation+balancing every 10k? (for all 4 tyres)

    Yes every 10 km . Schedule as below (applicable to all not just sunny)
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    Edited by EricChan, 13 January 2016 - 06:16 AM.

  • 13 January 2016 - 06:03 AM
    EricChan

    this NPMP must be sign straight after 10k servicing or just before doing the 20k ... Any idea?

    My understanding is you need not do it straight after 10k. What I might do is to ask them to substitute with my own engine oil preferably Mobil 1 ( otherwise helix).
    tan Chong have their own bottled Fastflo reportedly manufactured for them by SPC. Also for the transmission / cvt oil I would ask them to check for Nissan oem oil and may replace it

    Edited by EricChan, 13 January 2016 - 06:19 AM.

  • 13 January 2016 - 06:11 AM
    EricChan

    hello all, first post after lurking for a couple of years. just booked my QQ 1.2 from TC today at a reasonable price and good trade in value. SE guaranteed delivery by last week jan with earliest bidding this thurs.

    looking to do pp, thinsulate, horn and cob boot and underdoor light. any thoughts on that?

    Wah, 2 years huh. You definitely think long and hard before signing off on the dotted line . already I see Meemee stepping up ( strange but you shouldn't have missed his posts for the assistance you seek ) .Welcome and be at home to share freely among equals which we all are

    Edited by EricChan, 13 January 2016 - 06:11 AM.

  • 13 January 2016 - 07:01 AM
    Meemee

    Wah, 2 years huh. You definitely think long and hard before signing off on the dotted line . already I see Meemee stepping up ( strange but you shouldn't have missed his posts for the assistance you seek ) .Welcome and be at home to share freely among equals which we all are

    I also been looking around for car about 1-2 yrs

    From juke to madaz3 to vezel .......
  • 13 January 2016 - 07:27 AM
    Zqrtsdv

    Wah, 2 years huh. You definitely think long and hard before signing off on the dotted line . already I see Meemee stepping up ( strange but you shouldn't have missed his posts for the assistance you seek ) .Welcome and be at home to share freely among equals which we all are

    Haha it took me just 2 weeks to decide on the QQ, but almost a year and a half to come to terms with parting with my current car :)
  • 13 January 2016 - 08:07 AM
    EricChan

    I also been looking around for car about 1-2 yrs

    From juke to madaz3 to vezel .......

    Quite a long selection process as well. Last year quite a lot of new models to choose from in this price range. I suspect those same popular models will still dominate the scene this year given the relative
    dearth of new models within this price bracket.
  • 13 January 2016 - 08:14 AM
    EricChan

    Haha it took me just 2 weeks to decide on the QQ, but almost a year and a half to come to terms with parting with my current car :)

    Very long hunt, long courtship although 2 years ago qashqai just launched but still not available in spore (in fact 1.2t is just a year old). buying a car can be impulsive as well, your 2 weeks decision is akin to a shotgun marriage (driven by Coe event) . Now you can choose to stay married to her (I assume you are a he), until the statutory divorce when your coe (marriage certificate ) expires upon which you can elect to remarry her ( not many do)

    Edited by EricChan, 13 January 2016 - 08:16 AM.

  • 13 January 2016 - 08:17 AM
    Meemee

    Very long hunt, long courtship although 2 years ago qashqai just launched but still not available in spore (in fact 1.2t is just a year old). buying a car can be impulsive as well, your 2 weeks decision is akin to a shotgun marriage (driven by Coe event) . Now you can choose to stay married to her (I assume you are a he), until the statutory divorce when your coe (marriage certificate ) expires upon which you can elect to remarry her ( not many do)

    Waiting for the Coe to drop to a comfortable range

    Edited by Meemee, 13 January 2016 - 08:18 AM.

  • 13 January 2016 - 08:25 AM
    EricChan

    this NPMP must be sign straight after 10k servicing or just before doing the 20k ... Any idea?

    Confirm that you don't need to start at 10k. when you reach 20 k you can start it there and then

    My understanding is you need not do it straight after 10k. What I might do is to ask them to substitute with my own engine oil preferably Mobil 1 ( otherwise helix).
    tan Chong have their own bottled Fastflo reportedly manufactured for them by SPC. Also for the transmission / cvt oil I would ask them to check for Nissan oem oil and may replace it

    Called up TC. Correction.
    They no longer use Fastflo (their inhouse brand). They use Nissan synthetic for engine (I could live with this instead of Mobil 1) and Nissan oem atf oil for their cvt ( I would have insisted on this anyway)

    Edited by EricChan, 13 January 2016 - 08:46 AM.

  • 13 January 2016 - 09:34 AM
    Cashcow007
    I heard that Hondas, Toyotas are also using CVT besides Nissan. If true, we (QQ) are not alone
  • 13 January 2016 - 05:13 PM
    Wt_know

    ok and CVT is only using 2 pulleys ...

    even cui also cheaper and easy to replace compare to a "gearbox"

    but then the word "superior" is overated in this context ... lol

    Superiority in terms of reliability , not the driving dynamics, sportiness as mentioned


    Edited by Wt_know, 13 January 2016 - 05:16 PM.

  • 13 January 2016 - 05:37 PM
    Voxy28

    ok and CVT is only using 2 pulleys ...

    even cui also cheaper and easy to replace compare to a "gearbox"

    but then the word "superior" is overated in this context ... lol

    Lol I concur... �however this Nissan CVT has got pretty good build in algorithm that mate perfectly with the engine. So though CVT not superior in terms of mechanics, the overall combo of new algo does makes it enjoyable to drive.

    The best drive train are DCTs..... followed by 8 speed ATs.... then new gen CVTs and 6 speed ATs.... below this might be less competent or dinosaur liao.


    Edited by Voxy28, 13 January 2016 - 05:37 PM.

  • 13 January 2016 - 06:56 PM
    EricChan

    Lol I concur... however this Nissan CVT has got pretty good build in algorithm that mate perfectly with the engine. So though CVT not superior in terms of mechanics, the overall combo of new algo does makes it enjoyable to drive.

    The best drive train are DCTs..... followed by 8 speed ATs.... then new gen CVTs and 6 speed ATs.... below this might be less competent or dinosaur liao.

    Gear types are not the way forward. Dinosaurs they are.
  • 13 January 2016 - 08:58 PM
    Credor

    Confirm that you don't need to start at 10k. when you reach 20 k you can start it there and then
    Called up TC. Correction.
    They no longer use Fastflo (their inhouse brand). They use Nissan synthetic for engine (I could live with this instead of Mobil 1) and Nissan oem atf oil for their cvt ( I would have insisted on this anyway)

    Thanks :)
    Will put NPMP in consideration.

    Edited by Credor, 13 January 2016 - 08:59 PM.

  • 13 January 2016 - 09:33 PM
    starblazer
    1.2T road tax 6mths - $206, 12miths - $461
  • 13 January 2016 - 10:09 PM
    Hd2004
    Is there anyway to keep the digital mileage from being replaced by the low fuel display? Reason is that it would be difficult to look at the speedometer as 1.2 T has km/h located at the inner circle... The most brainless thing which TC never bother to change..
  • 13 January 2016 - 10:22 PM
    Vectra

    Shortlisted the 1.2T QQ to replace my 06 civic. I went through much of the thread and seems like there had been quite a number of issues, e.g. water vapour in headlight, loss of power, start/stop issue etc.

    To be honest, I like the look of the QQ and the cost/operating cost is also very attractive. Any comments on the overall reliability of this car?�


  • 13 January 2016 - 10:28 PM
    Kohanson

    Side note, can welcome me as qq newbie since ive just test driven recently. qq has just given me a tough time to decide btw vezel n xv...


    Go with the car which you feel is right bro. The car will be with you for many years to come unless you will be changing your ride every 2-3 years.
  • 13 January 2016 - 10:34 PM
    Kohanson

    Maybe the turbo consumed more fuel in exchange for extra power.


    This one I have to agree. My first few tank I always accelerate to 2.5-3k when moving off from the traffic light and I only got around 10.5-11km/l. After that, I tried to keep it to below 2k and it went up to 12km/l. I do 50/50 city and expressway.

    Edited by Kohanson, 13 January 2016 - 10:34 PM.

  • 13 January 2016 - 10:41 PM
    DerekLauFlowerGoose

    Shortlisted the 1.2T QQ to replace my 06 civic. I went through much of the thread and seems like there had been quite a number of issues, e.g. water vapour in headlight, loss of power, start/stop issue etc.

    To be honest, I like the look of the QQ and the cost/operating cost is also very attractive. Any comments on the overall reliability of this car?

    Hi bro, just finish my 1k servicing. To be frank. I am like u before buying qq. Read thru the forum and worry this worry that but hell ya, just go buy and never look back since.

    So far i have not face any of this issue (touch wood). I believe every brand and every car sure got this sort of problems, sure got a few batch with qc problems. Just have to take it with a pinch of salt...

    Live and let live....
  • 13 January 2016 - 10:50 PM
    Vectra

    Hi bro, just finish my 1k servicing. To be frank. I am like u before buying qq. Read thru the forum and worry this worry that but hell ya, just go buy and never look back since.

    So far i have not face any of this issue (touch wood). I believe every brand and every car sure got this sort of problems, sure got a few batch with qc problems. Just have to take it with a pinch of salt...

    Live and let live....

    That's good to hear. I test drove the 1.2T and I must say I am surprised that the car certainly didn't feel underpowered. My original intention was actually to check out the 2.0.

    The only thing that is stopping me from the 1.2T is my concern over the long-run reliability of the car.�

    Think I will have another test drive with my SE soon again... [:)]��Thanks!


  • 13 January 2016 - 11:21 PM
    Fuelsaver

    Go with the car which you feel is right bro. The car will be with you for many years to come unless you will be changing your ride every 2-3 years.

    May I have a bit of everything - qq cvt wif tiptronic n pickup, vezel led light technology n good fc, xv exterior n interior + safety + awd?

    That would b kinda ideal..
  • 14 January 2016 - 12:02 AM
    Voxy28

    May I have a bit of everything - qq cvt wif tiptronic n pickup, vezel led light technology n good fc, xv exterior n interior + safety + awd?

    That would b kinda ideal..


    Xv exterior? Ok that baffles me... Lol.

    But in the end it's a compromise and prioritisation of key factors. For me, safety follow by handling/ride and looks/interior... Then price, AD and warranty.

    cheers... Enjoy hunting
  • 14 January 2016 - 06:29 AM
    Cashcow007

    Shortlisted the 1.2T QQ to replace my 06 civic. I went through much of the thread and seems like there had been quite a number of issues, e.g. water vapour in headlight, loss of power, start/stop issue etc.

    To be honest, I like the look of the QQ and the cost/operating cost is also very attractive. Any comments on the overall reliability of this car?

    Go look at the forums for other car makes like Toyota, Honda, Mazda etc.
    For their fair share Of problems related to the cars
  • 14 January 2016 - 06:44 AM
    Fuelsaver

    Xv exterior? Ok that baffles me... Lol.

    But in the end it's a compromise and prioritisation of key factors. For me, safety follow by handling/ride and looks/interior... Then price, AD and warranty.

    cheers... Enjoy hunting

    Qq exterior design is most modern, but somehow I appreciate xv design a lil more, esp if vezel led headlamp is fitted on it.
  • 14 January 2016 - 08:10 AM
    EricChan

    That's good to hear. I test drove the 1.2T and I must say I am surprised that the car certainly didn't feel underpowered. My original intention was actually to check out the 2.0.

    The only thing that is stopping me from the 1.2T is my concern over the long-run reliability of the car.

    Think I will have another test drive with my SE soon again... [:)] Thanks!

    Welcome, good luck and good hunting
  • 14 January 2016 - 08:18 AM
    teycz

    Any bros here intending to change their head unit?

    I found someone selling the UK original Bosch head unit in ebay.

    Not sure will work here but for sure more stable than the current locally installed china-made HU

    Hmm, looks tempting http://www.ebay.com/itm/252217947215


  • 14 January 2016 - 08:51 AM
    jg2000

    May I have a bit of everything - qq cvt wif tiptronic n pickup, vezel led light technology n good fc, xv exterior n interior + safety + awd?

    That would b kinda ideal..

    My combo will be similar with slight change

    nissan note japanese 1.2 DIG supercharged engine HR12DDR upgraded for QQ power needs (instead of QQ french 1.2T HR12DDT), either QQ exterior or latest subaru impreza concept design (see below), subaru CVT+interior+safety+awd, vezel led and internal flat floor

    subaru-impreza-5-door-concept-photos-and


    Edited by jg2000, 14 January 2016 - 08:56 AM.

  • 14 January 2016 - 09:00 AM
    Kiteman

    Any bros here intending to change their head unit?

    I found someone selling the UK original Bosch head unit in ebay.

    Not sure will work here but for sure more stable than the current locally installed china-made HU

    Hmm, looks tempting http://www.ebay.com/itm/252217947215

    GPS will not work as you will not have the local map. You will also need a Nissan Connect Account for downloading and updating Apps and we do not know it will allow you to register.

    An alternative will be this:

    http://www.connects2...issan/Qashqai �

    You can fit in any aftermarket double DIN headunit with this kit.�


    Edited by Kiteman, 14 January 2016 - 09:01 AM.

  • 14 January 2016 - 09:17 AM
    Cashcow007

    GPS will not work as you will not have the local map. You will also need a Nissan Connect Account for downloading and updating Apps and we do not know it will allow you to register.

    An alternative will be this:

    http://www.connects2...issan/Qashqai �

    You can fit in any aftermarket double DIN headunit with this kit.�

    ..Nissan Connect Account for downloading and updating Apps ...

    What's this ? Txs.�


  • 14 January 2016 - 09:28 AM
    Joe8448
    , Renault version of QQ?
  • 14 January 2016 - 09:34 AM
    Goodrealm

    Was wondering any of the bros here done PPS for their new QQ? If yes, please share where was yours done.Was looking at Revol, seems rather reputable. Thanks guys! [;)]


  • 14 January 2016 - 09:38 AM
    EricChan

    , Renault version of QQ?

    There is the saying :
    Imitations are the sincerest form of flattery ... but the clones usually get it wrong.
    (Of course it is definitely not true here, so don't flame me)

    Was wondering any of the bros here done PPS for their new QQ? If yes, please share where was yours done.Was looking at Revol, seems rather reputable. Thanks guys! [;)]

    Wah you obviously didn't read my posts..Did at opti shine, synergy . I will highly recommend PPS

    Edited by EricChan, 14 January 2016 - 09:50 AM.

  • 14 January 2016 - 09:48 AM
    EricChan

    , Renault version of QQ?

    I was very impressed that a chap from Renault distributor actually posting on the Renault forum here . Shows a degree of willingness to listen and pay attention to the ground be it genuine concerns or unhappy noise ( and some may be less than complimentary pranks ) from forumers. Well done Renault! Come up tan Chong you could too (maybe you are but doing it quietly)
  • 14 January 2016 - 09:55 AM
    kumquat

    Was wondering any of the bros here done PPS for their new QQ? If yes, please share where was yours done.Was looking at Revol, seems rather reputable. Thanks guys! [;)]

    Ceramic Pro. So far have not read a single bad review on them. Very satisfied with my ride too. Practically don't need to wash car for a whole week and it still looks kilat kilat and clean.


    Edited by kumquat, 14 January 2016 - 09:55 AM.

  • 14 January 2016 - 09:55 AM
    Kiteman

    ..Nissan Connect Account for downloading and updating Apps ...

    What's this ? Txs.�

    A version of headunit you get in UK, AU and most part of Europe but not in Singapore.�

    https://gb.nissancon...-gb/Support/FAQ


  • 14 January 2016 - 10:08 AM
    Foker

    Was wondering any of the bros here done PPS for their new QQ? If yes, please share where was yours done.Was looking at Revol, seems rather reputable. Thanks guys! [;)]

    Disgusted tat Revol says a 1.2 QQ belongs to the MPV catrgory. Over priced.
  • 14 January 2016 - 10:25 AM
    Cashcow007

    A version of headunit you get in UK, AU and most part of Europe but not in Singapore.�

    https://gb.nissancon...-gb/Support/FAQ

    Txs


  • 14 January 2016 - 10:35 AM
    Voxy28

    Qq exterior design is most modern, but somehow I appreciate xv design a lil more, esp if vezel led headlamp is fitted on it.

    Vezel headlamps are nice... �but the XV butt looks cheap with those tail lamps for me.�

    These rims design looks like copied from QQ [knife]

    14247_1_l.jpg


    Edited by Voxy28, 14 January 2016 - 10:58 AM.

  • 14 January 2016 - 11:18 AM
    Goodrealm

    There is the saying :
    Imitations are the sincerest form of flattery ... but the clones usually get it wrong.
    (Of course it is definitely not true here, so don't flame me)
    Wah you obviously didn't read my posts..Did at opti shine, synergy . I will highly recommend PPS

    Lol I did bro,just seeing if there are any other recommended brands.
  • 14 January 2016 - 11:19 AM
    Zqrtsdv

    I was very impressed that a chap from Renault distributor actually posting on the Renault forum here . Shows a degree of willingness to listen and pay attention to the ground be it genuine concerns or unhappy noise ( and some may be less than complimentary pranks ) from forumers. Well done Renault! Come up tan Chong you could too (maybe you are but doing it quietly)

    My SE from TC did talk to me about their forum findings, so probably there are some of them who trawl the forums for feedback. More importantly, are they doing anything abt the feedback [laugh]


  • 14 January 2016 - 11:22 AM
    Goodrealm

    Disgusted tat Revol says a 1.2 QQ belongs to the MPV catrgory. Over priced.

    I think they classify all other vehicle types after sedan under Luxury & MPV.
  • 14 January 2016 - 11:34 AM
    EricChan

    1.2T road tax 6mths - $206, 12miths - $461

    Very cheap, now go and splurge on those add ons
  • 14 January 2016 - 12:08 PM
    EricChan
    Did any notice that there are cables underneath connected to the front passenger seat. At least for the 2.0l. It means that it can be updated to an electrical seat as is standard with the driver seat.
  • 14 January 2016 - 12:13 PM
    teycz

    Did any notice that there are cables underneath connected to the front passenger seat. At least for the 2.0l. It means that it can be updated to an electrical seat as is standard with the driver seat.

    Yes I noticed that when I collect my car. The cables were not properly secured initially, had them done during my first service.

    I am also guessing it is there for electric seat or it could be for the heating element on the seat. More likely for the electric seat.

    We could use them to install seat cooler instead [:p]


    Edited by teycz, 14 January 2016 - 12:14 PM.

  • 14 January 2016 - 12:26 PM
    EricChan

    Yes I noticed that when I collect my car. The cables were not properly secured initially, had them done during my first service.
    I am also guessing it is there for electric seat or it could be for the heating element on the seat. More likely for the electric seat.
    We could use them to install seat cooler instead [:p]

    You can warm your seat , you can chilled your backside , just don't mount any camera with it
  • 14 January 2016 - 12:38 PM
    Mred1-2

    Lol I did bro,just seeing if there are any other recommended brands.

    think a lot of bros here did PPS at opti-shine including myself.

    I haven't really did a full car wash�myself since last dec...

    at 1K servicing request TC to wash with water only,�and on some rainy days just wipe dry.. car still gleaming.�


  • 14 January 2016 - 12:50 PM
    Tazzi80

    Did any notice that there are cables underneath connected to the front passenger seat. At least for the 2.0l. It means that it can be updated to an electrical seat as is standard with the driver seat.

    The cables are probably for the seat sensor.�


  • 14 January 2016 - 12:54 PM
    Cashcow007

    Hi bro, just finish my 1k servicing. To be frank. I am like u before buying qq. Read thru the forum and worry this worry that but hell ya, just go buy and never look back since.

    So far i have not face any of this issue (touch wood). I believe every brand and every car sure got this sort of problems, sure got a few batch with qc problems. Just have to take it with a pinch of salt...

    Live and let live....

    Just did the 1k servicing at TC too.

    Before and after servicing, alot of difference.

    Wonder what they did to the car.

    Smoother ride, better pick up and acceleration are the more noticeable ones.


  • 14 January 2016 - 01:39 PM
    Goodrealm

    Just did the 1k servicing at TC too.
    Before and after servicing, alot of difference.
    Wonder what they did to the car.
    Smoother ride, better pick up and acceleration are the more noticeable ones.

    Haha. Just did mine today at BT. I think it's bcos of the mineral oil change. ^^
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