mycarforum: Honda Vezel part 73

hmm... hey guys, isn't this the "best" place to test drive? lol...

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Sorry.. just to check why so many ppl selling their vezel.. is it something wrong with the car?
http://www.stcars.sg...a-vezel-keyword

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bro, thks for ur reponse...
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ah... is the side mirror right? I tot when u off ur engine, both side mirror will be folded automatically, this don't come as basic?
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so for the audio steering control, its heng sway huh? if come with it, you "tan" tio, if not, LLST gota install after tt.. ayo, extra cost leh... lol...
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any bro/sis who collected their ride can confirm this? thkz all...
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Wah bro. What cars did you drive all these while? None of my jippon cars in the past ever had such feature and so far only those premium sedsns or suv i got steering audio control...lol..i heard the newer vezel got the audio control..

Im surprised you didn't list out qashqai... Hehe...

In my mind, i did, but dont fancy the interior.....Will consider

hmmm.... at this age & days, I would expect these to be basic lor... maybe my expectations too "high"... lol..

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so many "rumours" flying ard.. some say "improved" version, some say "facelift"... advertising tricks?

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Wah bro. What cars did you drive all these while? None of my jippon cars in the past ever had such feature and so far only those premium sedsns or suv i got steering audio control...lol..i heard the newer vezel got the audio control..

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hmmm.... at this age & days, I would expect these to be basic lor... maybe my expectations too "high"... lol..
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so many "rumours" flying ard.. some say "improved" version, some say "facelift"... advertising tricks?
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Lol. Conti cars maybe...but jippon cars always kinda basic. Facelift and new are used too losely. Lol.

bro, thks for ur reponse...

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ah... is the side mirror right? I tot when u off ur engine, both side mirror will be folded automatically, this don't come as basic?

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so for the audio steering control, its heng sway huh? if come with it, you "tan" tio, if not, LLST gota install after tt.. ayo, extra cost leh... lol...

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any bro/sis who collected their ride can confirm this? thkz all...

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new improved model all comes with audio control at steering definitely. At least that is what I noticed.

No lah, who would buy a new car to respray especially when it is for bumping around.
Either she make do with next best color or i buy another car with the color she prefers.

One thing is that i hate anything thats leychey.
If no genuine full leathers , and i still have to go get it done, i will reconsider.

But best is to go view the real thing this weekend.
No rush, at worse she just drive the mazda2 until COE expires.....
Wahaha.

Maybe Cx5?
Mitsubitshi ASX?

Thanks for the inputs.

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definitely, regardless purchasing a <$100k or >$200k car, most importantly is the shiokness feel of driving away a new car, shouldn't rush into in and ended up regretting the purchase within months of ownership. Like what others recommended as well, can see Qashqai 1.2 Turbo as well and Subaru XV. All are in the same category as Vezel.

Bro, think they are referring to auto fold mirrors when you lock your car. As for steering audio control, not all 1.5l cars have it. Vezel is not a premium ride. At 1.5l and with the current price, the things that vezel has already beat many others of the same category, no doubt insulation could be improved. Anyway the latter costs only about $80 - $150.
Lol. Then bobian bro. Or wait for the turbo version.

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my old civic FD1 installed with this auto fold module, however perhaps due to my work (outdoor sales that time), keep locking and unlocking car, ended up the right mirror module fried in around 12 months....

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this is another good testimony of using w30 EO; will do so at my next servicing. thanks, bro

update your experience bro:)

new improved model all comes with audio control at steering definitely. At least that is what I noticed.

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definitely, regardless purchasing a <$100k or >$200k car, most importantly is the shiokness feel of driving away a new car, shouldn't rush into in and ended up regretting the purchase within months of ownership. Like what others recommended as well, can see Qashqai 1.2 Turbo as well and Subaru XV. All are in the same category as Vezel.

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my old civic FD1 installed with this auto fold module, however perhaps due to my work (outdoor sales that time), keep locking and unlocking car, ended up the right mirror module fried in around 12 months....

update your experience bro:)

Bro, imho, i find qq turbo worth taking a look. The interior built and insulation are better than vezel. Engine may not be as responsive though and may struggle a bit on steep slope. Quite well equipped too except it may not have ctba if i remember correctly. Subaru xv interior felt too plasticky and basic, not to mention lack of power.

Bro, imho, i find qq turbo worth taking a look. The interior built and insulation are better than vezel. Engine may not be as responsive though and may struggle a bit on steep slope. Quite well equipped too except it may not have ctba if i remember correctly. Subaru xv interior felt too plasticky and basic, not to mention lack of power.

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of course man, personally despite I'm selling vezel, I don't really promote ctba, remember the Volvo clip went viral on youtube which the auto stop system failed and hit the man standing right in front of the XC? haha that is really funny.

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Basically as mentioned, Vezel is specifically built for just 1 purpose, carry out its job point A to point B at the lowest fuel consumption plus some "conti" gadgets like electronic parking brake, start stop and 7 speed transmission. Other than that, if you are looking at posh interior with "conti" feel plus excellent insulation. Qashqai 1.2 is a better car. Just have to bear in mind of the turbo and as what you mentioned, sluggishness upslope.

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However if you think about it, at current market now, $110k++ cars, basically you have to understand we are only talking about "budget" car category as compared to 06 07 time when such budget, we can be looking at entry level conti car already.

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Sigh.... this is the saddest truth of Singaporean motor head.

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of course man, personally despite I'm selling vezel, I don't really promote ctba, remember the Volvo clip went viral on youtube which the auto stop system failed and hit the man standing right in front of the XC? haha that is really funny.
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Basically as mentioned, Vezel is specifically built for just 1 purpose, carry out its job point A to point B at the lowest fuel consumption plus some "conti" gadgets like electronic parking brake, start stop and 7 speed transmission. Other than that, if you are looking at posh interior with "conti" feel plus excellent insulation. Qashqai 1.2 is a better car. Just have to bear in mind of the turbo and as what you mentioned, sluggishness upslope.
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However if you think about it, at current market now, $110k++ cars, basically you have to understand we are only talking about "budget" car category as compared to 06 07 time when such budget, we can be looking at entry level conti car already.
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Sigh.... this is the saddest truth of Singaporean motor head.

Yup. Both got its pros and cons. Interesting that vezel was hardly being promoted on it's 7-spd cvt while with the likes of toyota which emphasizes on its super cvt-i. Think cvt bring cvt...ta man. At 110k, so many choices last time...

Yup. Both got its pros and cons. Interesting that vezel was hardly being promoted on it's 7-spd cvt while with the likes of toyota which emphasizes on its super cvt-i. Think cvt bring cvt...ta man. At 110k, so many choices last time...

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Vezel 7 spd is actually to complement the Earth Dream Technology engine which Honda R&D 3 different variants to bundle into the Fit, Vezel and Vezel Hybrid. Basically Honda CVT and Toyota CVT is fundermentally different from my understanding. What Honda tries to achieve is the dual CVT system which works like a dual sequential gear box to minimise the wear and tear and improving the responsiveness in between gear changes. While Toyota Super CVT-I has the intelligence to maintain constant rpm for most efficient output of power to fuel ratio. Either one is definitely slowly catching up with their European competitors after years of slacking behind technology innovation.

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Definitely, 110k last time is like free market... now limited choice available only.

Anyone test drive or sit in Vezel yet? We saw it but as the car is sold, we are not able to sit in it.

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Hi Apple...... me lucky lucky.... can test drive.......hahaha...

Test drive b4 buying.

Hi guys,

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is it industry practice that buyer has to put $10k booking fees �/ $10K COE bidding (total $20K)? Or iszit�PI trying to smoke...

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need advise here.. TIA..

so how's the feel? shiok boh... [bounce1]

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Hi Apple...... me lucky lucky.... can test drive.......hahaha...

Test drive b4 buying.

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Hi guys,

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is it industry practice that buyer has to put $10k booking fees �/ $10K COE bidding (total $20K)? Or iszit�PI trying to smoke...

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need advise here.. TIA..

so how's the feel? shiok boh...

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too much money at stake, do choose properly which PI you go are going with. price is not everything. oh yeah you can lose all your money if you are not careful. yes this is singapore �trust me it happens.

oh.. so its PI trying to "smoke"?

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to all bro/sis,� may I know how much u guys put down (booking fees/COE bidding) then? let us know so tt we know how to "nego"... lol...

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too much money at stake, do choose properly which PI you go are going with. price is not everything. oh yeah you can lose all your money if you are not careful. yes this is singapore �trust me it happens.

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how to i unsubscribe from this?

i decided to get conti car liao bcos vezel getting too common

how to i unsubscribe from this?

i decided to get conti car liao bcos vezel getting too common

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common = cheaper spares n repairs �= resale value higher

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uncommon = total opposite of above

Hi guys,

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is it industry practice that buyer has to put $10k booking fees �/ $10K COE bidding (total $20K)? Or iszit�PI trying to smoke...

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need advise here.. TIA..

so how's the feel? shiok boh...

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If AD only needs $10k booking fee and no COE bidding fee, why PI asked for extra $10k? Must be very careful as maybe the PI was in need of money urgently.

Rare conti car can also mean tough to resell and maybe not suitable for tropical climate ?
Common Vezel in the roads might b due to popularity, gd car to have ?
:-) to each his own taste bro , end of day enjoy yr ride !

Just sharing one of the most extensive mods of the Vezel, right here in SG -�http://sgvezel-hrv.c...y-and-diy-mods/

Edited by ray_bat, 16 July 2015 - 07:16 PM.

My major concerns are the CVT gearbox and the CTBA features. I heard that CVT gearbox spoils easier when compared to conventional 6 AT and CTBA feature is very annoying and need to switch off everytime you turn on the engine. Please advise on the above 2 mentioned problems. Thanks.

Interesting news about the safety aspects on the Thai made HR-V.

Something to consider for JDM buyers?

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http://paultan.org/2...an-ncap-rating/

I am narrowing down my choices to either Vezel and QQ. I like the Vezel but noticed that the car body is very soft. When I pressed on area near the Vezel logo (supposed to be the toughest body part), the felling is soft. Perhaps this was the reason the car insulation is poor (read from this forum). Can owner of Vezel pls share your experience in terms of car body and noises? Thank you! (The 5 star rating is positive).

I am narrowing down my choices to either Vezel and QQ. I like the Vezel but noticed that the car body is very soft. When I pressed on area near the Vezel logo (supposed to be the toughest body part), the felling is soft. Perhaps this was the reason the car insulation is poor (read from this forum). Can owner of Vezel pls share your experience in terms of car body and noises? Thank you! (The 5 star rating is positive).

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japanese cars in general don't really have a hard body chassis whether is it QQ or Vezel. Overtime, the insulation will deprove in general for most cars but the hard car body sticks with you. Perhaps the continental makes will fulfill your needs if you are looking at these 2 factors.�

Hi guys,
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is it industry practice that buyer has to put $10k booking fees �/ $10K COE bidding (total $20K)? Or iszit�PI trying to smoke...
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need advise here.. TIA..

so how's the feel? shiok boh...
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The usual i heard is 10k coe and 5k car.

I am narrowing down my choices to either Vezel and QQ. I like the Vezel but noticed that the car body is very soft. When I pressed on area near the Vezel logo (supposed to be the toughest body part), the felling is soft. Perhaps this was the reason the car insulation is poor (read from this forum). Can owner of Vezel pls share your experience in terms of car body and noises? Thank you! (The 5 star rating is positive).

Qq is harder and better insulated..a bit more conti feel... Interior plastics feel harder too. Engine responsiveness i prefer vezel though. Qq eng is quieter. Anyway soundoroofing can be done aftermarket. I already did so except left the trunk and firewall.

Interesting news about the safety aspects on the Thai made HR-V.
Something to consider for JDM buyers?
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http://paultan.org/2...an-ncap-rating/

Bro..the thai market gets the full specs. SG KM if i am not wrong it's not the full specs despite made in sawadee...i will still choose kawaii.

Edited by Andyngps, 17 July 2015 - 01:04 PM.

Test drove today.
HRV.

Boh lat just like Mazda 2 so i guess it wont make a diff.

But now an X1 caught my eye....
Hhhmmmm....

HRV is SOHC engine. Maybe lesser power if compared with vezel?

Haiz.. Looks lik it boils down to luck.... If sign w SE, bet e next thing is 'pray' that the whole process is smooth till collection of ride...

[quote name="Andyngps" post="5543448" timestamp="1437108111"]

The usual i heard is 10k coe and 5k car.
Why sg market for AD always kena 'shortchange' on specs ah, s'more tag at premium price? Fat margin?

Bro..the thai market gets the full specs. SG KM if i am not wrong it's not the full specs despite made in sawadee...i will still choose kawaii.

HRV is SOHC engine. Maybe lesser power if compared with vezel?

Yah 120bhp and 129bhp.

I went to see Vezel at PI, really barebones basic car.
Interior really uninviting and cheap.
Exterior and shape is nice.

Saw the Harrier, very well built, am actually impressed by it.
$156k i was told....hhhmmmm

In the end, not buying anything just let her drive the Mazda 2 until early next year then see how

Test drove today.
HRV.

Boh lat just like Mazda 2 so i guess it wont make a diff.

But now an X1 caught my eye....
Hhhmmmm....

Since budget is so flexible, range rover evoque is nice... Hehe..

Since budget is so flexible, range rover evoque is nice... Hehe..

Mai lah mai lah, save money.....Vezel can already but just need some good options like full leather seats.
However i also heard that it is very popular and the earliest next shipment is Oct.
am in no hurry whatsoever. Just backside itchy.

The mileage for this car will only be 5,000 to 6,000km per year at most for the next 4yrs.
So i want to keep it really dirt cheap, money hard earned leh

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Yah 120bhp and 129bhp.

I went to see Vezel at PI, really barebones basic car.
Interior really uninviting and cheap.
Exterior and shape is nice.

Saw the Harrier, very well built, am actually impressed by it.
$156k i was told....hhhmmmm

In the end, not buying anything just let her drive the Mazda 2 until early next year then see how

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Edited by Jasongcp, 17 July 2015 - 04:58 PM.

Yah 120bhp and 129bhp.

I went to see Vezel at PI, really barebones basic car.
Interior really uninviting and cheap.
Exterior and shape is nice.

Saw the Harrier, very well built, am actually impressed by it.
$156k i was told....hhhmmmm

In the end, not buying anything just let her drive the Mazda 2 until early next year then see how

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Harrier target upper market... also upper market price... but definitely Harrier is more comfortable, powerful, quiet.

Maybe you should hang out for Mazda CX-3... or you can consider Hyundai Tucson/KIA Sportage

Test drove today.
HRV.

Boh lat just like Mazda 2 so i guess it wont make a diff.

But now an X1 caught my eye....
Hhhmmmm....

You have to look at CAT B cars liao.
SUV size with CAT A engine buay gum you leh.....hehe

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Harrier target upper market... also upper market price... but definitely Harrier is more comfortable, powerful, quiet.
Maybe you should hang out for Mazda CX-3... or you can consider Hyundai Tucson/KIA Sportage

No lah, Harrier is not upper market.
CX 3 too small, maybe CX5
Tucson built quality not good.
Sportage i dont quite like.
Sigh, take it easy, let it come on its own.

Thanks

You have to look at CAT B cars liao.
SUV size with CAT A engine buay gum you leh.....hehe

Can lah, can lah......
Vezel ok lah, just need to add some good options.

I was thinking of retiring in a few years time so no point buying 5er 7er Sclass anymore.
Maybe sell my 911 and just get a Harrier or something similar.
Take it easy and go on short holiday every month.

Can check whether d rear seat head bumb can b adjusted.. coz i saw at d show room theres only to position.. either top or bottom..

Can check whether d rear seat head bumb can b adjusted.. coz i saw at d show room theres only to position.. either top or bottom..

Can be adjusted. Top or bottom lor.

I'd like to have some advises from experts here about Honda Vezel hybrid vs Subaru Forester 2.0i. Any suggestion/info would be very much appreciated.�

Thks.. so only 2 position? No middle or inbetween? Coz it will slide down if you put half way right? I tried on differ vezel on differ PI.. same things happen.. strange.. bt current ride will just remain at d position i adjusted.. bt for vezel.. it just slight down??

Can be adjusted. Top or bottom lor.

Mai lah mai lah, save money.....Vezel can already but just need some good options like full leather seats.
However i also heard that it is very popular and the earliest next shipment is Oct.
am in no hurry whatsoever. Just backside itchy.

The mileage for this car will only be 5,000 to 6,000km per year at most for the next 4yrs.
So i want to keep it really dirt cheap, money hard earned leh

If mileage is going to be so low, might as well go for a second hand premium car with high paper value. Or qq turbo if you wish for better interior built. Vezel interior in my opinion is already better compared to some other models of the same level. I would choose qq for that better interior and insulation but vezel for eng responsiveness. Or just top up about 800 to 1k plus to have full leather wrap.

Edited by Andyngps, 18 July 2015 - 08:06 AM.

[quote name="Vins" post="5543506" timestamp="1437115742"]

Haiz.. Looks lik it boils down to luck.... If sign w SE, bet e next thing is 'pray' that the whole process is smooth till collection of ride...

[quote name="Andyngps" post="5543448" timestamp="1437108111"]

The usual i heard is 10k coe and 5k car.
Why sg market for AD always kena 'shortchange' on specs ah, s'more tag at premium price? Fat margin?

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Higher overheads bah. Anyway SG is known to be the most exp for cars and yet the lowest specs. But pple still buy from AD for other reasons.

No lah, Harrier is not upper market.

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Harrier have always seem to me like an "upper middle class" car...

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Harrier have always seem to me like an "upper middle class" car...

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A noon question.�

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Are HRV and Vezel the same ? From photo I cannot spot the difference.�

�to me it is a can see no way can touch class car

Its actually in between say...a toyota wish and crv bah..in terms of the price..

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Are HRV and Vezel the same ? From photo I cannot spot the difference.�

Look at the headlights...unless you are comparing with vezel G model. The highest spec hrv also do not have led and dtrl... Rims come as 17inch for hrv but that is less conspicuous...

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Are HRV and Vezel the same ? From photo I cannot spot the difference.�

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Vezel: JDM (Japanese Domestic Market) model, made in Japan for Japanese market. Pricing ranges from $105k~$139k.

Brought in to SG only by PI (Parallel Importers).

Typically comes in G (basic), X (most common) and S (better insulated than X, paddle shifters, etc.) spec. Niceties include LED projector main-beams (not sure about high beams) and CTBA (autonomous emergency braking to try and prevent a forward collision). No steering controls and comes without an infotainment system (PI will install a double DIN unit for you).

Comes with a 1.5L DOHC 129hp engine with CVT. Also available in a Category B Hybrid (with 7-speed dual-clutch transmission), which can also come with hybrid all-wheel-drive. Hybrids also have a top-level trim known as Z.

Expect Vezels to be warranted only by their PI, but external workshops are sure to be stocking up on Vezel parts due to the popularity of this car.

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HR-V: Thailand manufactured international market version of the Vezel.

Brought into SG by authorized distributor Kah Motors.

Three trims; standard (quite barebones), LX (with some extra gadgetry and equipment, I cannot remember what) and LX Premium (same as LX but with leather seats).

Local HR-V units from Kah Motors are very poorly equipped compared to Vezel, and the build quality, and worksmanship has been severely criticized versus the Vezel. Compared to Vezel, there are no LED headlamps or CTBA as the most obvious omissions, but HR-V is equipped with the integrated OEM Honda-Link infotainment system that can directly link with your iPhone (but useless with Android).

Uses a 1.5L SOHC EarthDreams VTEC engine that rates 120hp, with a CVT.

Warranted for five years, unlimited mileage, by Kah Motors.

Anyone here bought the Hybrid Z version yet? Thinking of changing my 5 year GS450h to this for practical reasons as I just had a baby.

Heard the Z model soundproofing is better, also curious if anyone bought and on fuel consumption?
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Anyone here bought the Hybrid Z version yet? Thinking of changing my 5 year GS450h to this for practical reasons as I just had a baby.

Heard the Z model soundproofing is better, also curious if anyone bought and on fuel consumption?

Hybrid fuel economy should be better... I think most Vezel are now getting around 12~13.5... can't remember. Hybrid probably 15, but the electric motors also make it a lot quicker.

Z model should have the thicker sound insulation of the S-spec model, so should be.

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Hybrid though unpopular, not many people bought.

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..... on the other side of things, isn't GS450h a lot bigger than Vezel? Ah, got child seat problems, I guess... Vezel being higher up should make it easier to fit...

Hybrid fuel economy should be better... I think most Vezel are now getting around 12~13.5... can't remember. Hybrid probably 15, but the electric motors also make it a lot quicker.
Z model should have the thicker sound insulation of the S-spec model, so should be.
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Hybrid though unpopular, not many people bought.
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..... on the other side of things, isn't GS450h a lot bigger than Vezel? Ah, got child seat problems, I guess... Vezel being higher up should make it easier to fit...

Gs450h much smaller boot.. Backseat also less legroom.. And cost of ownership heheh

Hybrid fuel economy should be better... I think most Vezel are now getting around 12~13.5... can't remember. Hybrid probably 15, but the electric motors also make it a lot quicker.
Z model should have the thicker sound insulation of the S-spec model, so should be.
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..... on the other side of things, isn't GS450h a lot bigger than Vezel? Ah, got child seat problems, I guess... Vezel being higher up should make it easier to fit...

12-13 is city driving i guess? Im getting abt 15-17 for 70%hw for non hyb. Think the S model no doubt got better floor insulation, but if it is just the carpet thickness, you may still need aftermarket sp.

Edited by Andyngps, 18 July 2015 - 08:51 PM.

Anybody know what is the latest CEV for X, S and Z model? From my understanding:

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X - 10K

S - 5K *weird*

Z - 10K *sort of low*

iirc.. x version falls under band A4 which is $5k now...

Anybody know what is the latest CEV for X, S and Z model? From my understanding:
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X - 10K
S - 5K *weird*
Z - 10K *sort of low*

I thought can get up.to 19km/l... lol...

12-13 seems abit too low for curent technology leh...

12-13 is city driving i guess? Im getting abt 15-17 for 70%hw for non hyb. Think the S model no doubt got better floor insulation, but if it is just the carpet thickness, you may still need aftermarket sp.

Edited by Vins, 19 July 2015 - 10:00 AM.

I thought can get up.to 19km/l... lol...

12-13 seems abit too low for curent technology leh...
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because Singapore fuel grade cannot reach Jap/Euro standard, so actual FC lower than paper spec

iirc.. x version falls under band A4 which is $5k now...

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Have seen a few X with CEV$10K

because Singapore fuel grade cannot reach Jap/Euro standard, so actual FC lower than paper spec

vezel uses RON95.

Why so many less than 1 year old vezel listed on sgcarmart?�

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Any issues?

Why so many less than 1 year old vezel listed on sgcarmart?�

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Any issues?

maybe they regret, and found other better brand

maybe they lost job, cannot be afford the loan

maybe they can sell higher price to make money

I had booked a X model with cartimes.

Want to ask if anyone leather wrapped the steering wheel and gear knob?

Also my ride is gonna be white. Any recommendation on what leather color to go with it.

Oh.. Tot tiz CEVS thingy is given by LTA?

http://www.lta.gov.s...df-09077e101468

Have seen a few X with CEV$10K

Congrats on your new purchase... So when r u expecting to collect ur ride?

I had booked a X model with cartimes.

Want to ask if anyone leather wrapped the steering wheel and gear knob?

Also my ride is gonna be white. Any recommendation on what leather color to go with it.

Edited by Vins, 19 July 2015 - 02:55 PM.

Why so many less than 1 year old vezel listed on sgcarmart?�
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Any issues?

Accidrnt car or marketing gimmick.

iirc.. x version falls under band A4 which is $5k now...

I thought can get up.to 19km/l... lol...

12-13 seems abit too low for curent technology leh...

19km/l per tank??? Lol

To the owner of the White Vezel SKU**** parked at Telok Kurau one of the Lor.. your ride is awesome...

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Isit the Garage R model? what suspension u used to lower your ride?

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I thought nobody would.. didn't expect to see 1 so fast...

Btw, guys, do u think PI profit margin fat boh when they selling between $107k-$113k? SE say they only earn 500-600/car sold, believe?

Haha.. Of coz jus wishful thinking la...

19km/l per tank??? Lol

U never take picture ah.. Then share here let us drool la.... Lol...

To the owner of the White Vezel SKU**** parked at Telok Kurau one of the Lor.. your ride is awesome...
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Isit the Garage R model? what suspension u used to lower your ride?
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I thought nobody would.. didn't expect to see 1 so fast...

Btw, guys, do u think PI profit margin fat boh when they selling between $107k-$113k? SE say they only earn 500-600/car sold, believe?

Haha.. Of coz jus wishful thinking la...

U never take picture ah.. Then share here let us drool la.... Lol...

Yup the salesman earns around there maybe a bit more. They also earn a bit from your loans and trade in car as well as insurance.

Oh... Ok, that's for e SE, how about the company itself? It can't be just earning this amount for each car they bring in right?

Yup the salesman earns around there maybe a bit more. They also earn a bit from your loans and trade in car as well as insurance.

Oh... Ok, that's for e SE, how about the company itself? It can't be just earning this amount for each car they bring in right?

Of course not la. At least 10k-15k per car. Then it depends on your overheads. Salary, rent, storage, etc etc.

Btw, guys, do u think PI profit margin fat boh when they selling between $107k-$113k? SE say they only earn 500-600/car sold, believe?

Haha.. Of coz jus wishful thinking la...

U never take picture ah.. Then share here let us drool la.... Lol...
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Only took the side view.. didn't take the full view as i was driving..

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He did some changes exterior wise to the front and to the exhaust tip also..

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how to upload pic?

Why so many less than 1 year old vezel listed on sgcarmart?�

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Any issues?

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some of them are PI advertisements for 'new' car. If you are looking for used Vezel, read the ads carefully.

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Only took the side view.. didn't take the full view as i was driving..

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He did some changes exterior wise to the front and to the exhaust tip also..

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Hope this helps.

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Btw, guys, do u think PI profit margin fat boh when they selling between $107k-$113k? SE say they only earn 500-600/car sold, believe?

Haha.. Of coz jus wishful thinking la...

U never take picture ah.. Then share here let us drool la.... Lol...
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Hi Bro Vins, any owners here uses boosters on their rides?

Oh.. Tot tiz CEVS thingy is given by LTA?

http://www.lta.gov.s...df-09077e101468

Congrats on your new purchase... So when r u expecting to collect ur ride?
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I know the LTA CEV bands but can't find the carbon emission amount by the various Vezel models leh... I once got a glimpse of model X and S but still can't find Z model.

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Any clue?

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I know the LTA CEV bands but can't find the carbon emission amount by the various Vezel models leh... I once got a glimpse of model X and S but still can't find Z model.

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Any clue?

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The CO2 emission value can be found under sgcarmart's specs for the car. However, one thing that puzzles me is that how come the values for the X and S models differ? X is 113, while S is 121, which makes S fall under the $5k CEVS rebate while X is $10k.

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The CO2 emission value can be found under sgcarmart's specs for the car. However, one thing that puzzles me is that how come the values for the X and S models differ? X is 113, while S is 121, which makes S fall under the $5k CEVS rebate while X is $10k.

That's precisely why I want to find out the CEV rebate. One SE told me because S and X model engine are tuned differently because S is on 17" rim. Make some sense to me.

That's precisely why I want to find out the CEV rebate. One SE told me because S and X model engine are tuned differently because S is on 17" rim. Make some sense to me.

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nothing to do with engine. the only difference is weight and rim size.� and CO2 is calculated as kg/km so the car has to cover a distance. thus overall weight and rims affect this figure even if the engines are identical.

That's precisely why I want to find out the CEV rebate. One SE told me because S and X model engine are tuned differently because S is on 17" rim. Make some sense to me.

I would look at the overall unladen weight of S. If better insulated it may be heavier too? Not too sure on this though.

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The CO2 emission value can be found under sgcarmart's specs for the car. However, one thing that puzzles me is that how come the values for the X and S models differ? X is 113, while S is 121, which makes S fall under the $5k CEVS rebate while X is $10k.

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I would rather take lower CEVS as it will affect your PARF at the end of the day.... ya, SE all say different thinking, think wana "smoke" ppl again... lol...

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Hi Bro Vins, any owners here uses boosters on their rides?

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Hi bro, sorry cant help up as u see my posting, I oso newbie leh... lol...

http://www.vetl.com....Enq/webEnq.aspx

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These are very different from LTA's registration log card.

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Dont quite understand why.

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i dont think G is heavier than X. G have much higher co2 reading than the rest.�

http://www.automobil...m/auta_cmp2.php

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I really think our LTA VETL's official test center is "flawed" hence the inconsistent result as compared to other countries.�

I really think our LTA VETL's official test center is "flawed" hence the inconsistent result as compared to other countries.�

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I agree... even the SE also say he confuse on this new rating.... LTA confuse them, they confuse buyers.. lol...

If you go to OneMotoring (LTA also) OMV page, you will also see that Vezel has like three dozen different entries all with small variations of OMV... parallel import cars can be really weird

If you go to OneMotoring (LTA also) OMV page, you will also see that Vezel has like three dozen different entries all with small variations of OMV... parallel import cars can be really weird

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there is no real OMV for the car because they import the Vezel from various dealers across the world hence the costs differ in terms of shipping, transportation etc. On the flip side, the PIs basically self-declare the OMV.�

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I agree... even the SE also say he confuse on this new rating.... LTA confuse them, they confuse buyers.. lol...

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My frd just collected his vezel 1.5X, CEV rebate is 5k.

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there is no real OMV for the car because they import the Vezel from various dealers across the world hence the costs differ in terms of shipping, transportation etc. On the flip side, the PIs basically self-declare the OMV.�

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oh.. I till thought they can only take direct from "arikato" there... lol...

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My frd just collected his vezel 1.5X, CEV rebate is 5k.

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ya.. that's also the latest I heard, CEVS $5k... it's good, then end of COE, PARF slightly higher...

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oh.. I till thought they can only take direct from "arikato" there... lol...

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ya.. that's also the latest I heard, CEVS $5k... it's good, then end of COE, PARF slightly higher...

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only kah motor can take from japan directly or Honda direct. PIs have to "purchase" from other dealers around the world.�

how to i unsubscribe from this?

i decided to get conti car liao bcos vezel getting too common

If your office and home areas got more than 5 cars same model, considered common?

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My frd just collected his vezel 1.5X, CEV rebate is 5k.

I am not surprise.�

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Depending on, if his PI send in for VETL EC .92 test (which require 5 cars minimum on a single BL) or failed the test or PI could just go for the easy route to just buy the VETL report.�

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I suspect the later.

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Actually for the same price (no top up for CEV rebate) i prefer band a4 due to higher PARF or scrap value.

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Any feedback on Vezel's pick up and cruising speeds? I test drove the HRV which is on a dated engine at Kah Motors, feel that it was quite ok but didn't really have the chance to speed up much around Ubi. Am now considering to switch from my 8yo Civic FD to Vezel X as I would need to renew COE 2 years later and I dun believe the COE price will go down significantly. Any bros here did similar switch e.g. Civic FD to Vezel? If so, how was the experience? Is Vezel better than or on par with Civic? I love the Harrier but the price is a bit tight for me - dun want to pay installments on a tight budget. Love the looks of the Vezel but too bad can't test drive at PIs, as such any feedback or advice would be great.

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Thanx!

Hi,

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Any feedback on Vezel's pick up and cruising speeds? I test drove the HRV which is on a dated engine at Kah Motors, feel that it was quite ok but didn't really have the chance to speed up much around Ubi. Am now considering to switch from my 8yo Civic FD to Vezel X as I would need to renew COE 2 years later and I dun believe the COE price will go down significantly. Any bros here did similar switch e.g. Civic FD to Vezel? If so, how was the experience? Is Vezel better than or on par with Civic? I love the Harrier but the price is a bit tight for me - dun want to pay installments on a tight budget. Love the looks of the Vezel but too bad can't test drive at PIs, as such any feedback or advice would be great.

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Thanx!

That's also the question I like to know....on paper the bhp and torque figure looks too sedated to me....but I may just consider it if I keep my current car for occasions I need to pump up my adrenaline.

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By the way, today I read a biz times article that PI vezel price can be as low as $109k.� is it true?� how much price you vezel owners paid and what omv your vezel is ?� I would like to do some assessment of the depreciation.

That's also the question I like to know....on paper the bhp and torque figure looks too sedated to me....but I may just consider it if I keep my current car for occasions I need to pump up my adrenaline.

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By the way, today I read a biz times article that PI vezel price can be as low as $109k.� is it true?� how much price you vezel owners paid and what omv your vezel is ?� I would like to do some assessment of the depreciation.

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actually I feel that PI can quote whatever price they want to set (high or low)... it still boils down to your "nego" skills to ask fro discounts & freebies lor... maybe they quote low just to entice you to visit their showroom... then... u know liao... lol...

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actually I feel that PI can quote whatever price they want to set (high or low)... it still boils down to your "nego" skills to ask fro discounts & freebies lor... maybe they quote low just to entice you to visit their showroom... then... u know liao... lol...

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hha that why I didn't rely fully on biztimes article reporting price to be as low as 109k........that is also why I am asking brothers here for the actual price and omv they paid to compute the depn.

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only kah motor can take from japan directly or Honda direct. PIs have to "purchase" from other dealers around the world.�

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From my understanding, vezel is direct from japan, not dealer around the world. so far vezel is their domestic use, not even in Europe or usa.

More likely from those auction house in japan.

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came across 1 of the website before.

hohoho.... tink tiz wkend showrm will be packed agn liao... AD & PI smiling waiting for u... lol... [smash]

Hi all! I'm looking to purchase a vezel from PI JDM. Does anyone have any good reviews or negative experience with them?

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THanks!

hohoho.... tink tiz wkend showrm will be packed agn liao... AD & PI smiling waiting for u... lol...

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Probably just see see look look only. Next month onwards higher quota, prices on downward trend, given larger quotas coming and poor economic outlook, �no need to rush in unless need a car urgently...

Any bro know where to get the foldable boot cover and how much per piece? Some PIs doesn't include that and some use those hard tonneau.

Hi,

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Any feedback on Vezel's pick up and cruising speeds? I test drove the HRV which is on a dated engine at Kah Motors, feel that it was quite ok but didn't really have the chance to speed up much around Ubi. Am now considering to switch from my 8yo Civic FD to Vezel X as I would need to renew COE 2 years later and I dun believe the COE price will go down significantly. Any bros here did similar switch e.g. Civic FD to Vezel? If so, how was the experience? Is Vezel better than or on par with Civic? I love the Harrier but the price is a bit tight for me - dun want to pay installments on a tight budget. Love the looks of the Vezel but too bad can't test drive at PIs, as such any feedback or advice would be great.

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Thanx!

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Hi Chengtl,�

i used to own a civil FD 1.6 and test droved the HRV from KM before ordering a vezel, and i think power and drivability is good enough. of cos cant compare a saloon with suv interms of cornering if you wanna drive like those type R civils do.. As a whole its good enough, with sufficient power, FC, space and looks.

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I just secure my coe today with just one bid, thanks for my PI:)

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Since your car still have 2 yrs to go.. i presume you might get a good trade-in price. Good luck.

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From my understanding, vezel is direct from japan, not dealer around the world. so far vezel is their domestic use, not even in Europe or usa.

More likely from those auction house in japan.

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came across 1 of the website before.

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yes vezel is made in japan no question about that but it's not purchased or imported directly from Honda as in PIs do not do direct purchase of it from them. They will have to source for the car from other dealers (or maybe like you said "auction houses") to get the Vezel in. If not what's the use of Honda appointing Kah Motor as their authorised dealer in SG? After all, there is a certain fulfillment on Kah Motor's part to Honda in regards to the authorised dealership.�

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yes vezel is made in japan no question about that but it's not purchased or imported directly from Honda as in PIs do not do direct purchase of it from them. They will have to source for the car from other dealers (or maybe like you said "auction houses") to get the Vezel in. If not what's the use of Honda appointing Kah Motor as their authorised dealer in SG? After all, there is a certain fulfillment on Kah Motor's part to Honda in regards to the authorised dealership.�

does it matter? still made in Japan as compared to HRV made in Thailand.

does it matter? still made in Japan as compared to HRV made in Thailand.

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honestly i don't quite care where it's made. I was just replying another bro's post on the OMV of vezel.�

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honestly i don't quite care where it's made. I was just replying another bro's post on the OMV of vezel.�

For cheaper price yet made in Japan, it's a no-brainer... I would choose cheaper price and yet made in Japan over thailand anytime.

For cheaper price yet made in Japan, it's a no-brainer... I would choose cheaper price and yet made in Japan over thailand anytime.

agree with you totally.

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i don't care if PI gets from agent in Japan. Its not like agent built or assembled the vezel themselves.� [:p]

Any bro know where to get the foldable boot cover and how much per piece? Some PIs doesn't include that and some use those hard tonneau.

Check here brother:

http://www.mycarforu..._carmakemodel=1

Bros, any advice whether I should pay the penalty and cancel my contract?

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The situation is, I booked a Vezel X from one PI (famous in this forum) at certain price (market price at that time). Paid 5K deposit and 10K for COE bidding. But the key is, no COE rebate given. So now the COE dropped 10K and�Vezel X selling price dropped my than 5K, so should I ask to cancel my agreement?

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To me buying from PI is gambling and lose is just lose. But my wife says we should always go for better deal. Even we lose some admin charges, we can easily get it back if COE drops further after Aug.

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Any advice? Sincere thanks!

Thanks bro Marcostan!�

Bros, any advice whether I should pay the penalty and cancel my contract?

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The situation is, I booked a Vezel X from one PI (famous in this forum) at certain price (market price at that time). Paid 5K deposit and 10K for COE bidding. But the key is, no COE rebate given. So now the COE dropped 10K and�Vezel X selling price dropped my than 5K, so should I ask to cancel my agreement?

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To me buying from PI is gambling and lose is just lose. But my wife says we should always go for better deal. Even we lose some admin charges, we can easily get it back if COE drops further after Aug.

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Any advice? Sincere thanks!

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moral of story... even famous (assume should be "reputable") PIs can screw u big time... really unethical people out there.... anyway, how come no COE rebate? Is their price really that attractive that you forgo this rebate.. I feel no matter what, die die must have some rebate, at least if coe go below that level, u will be compensated...

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anyway, in event that you really make the decision for pull out the deal, come here name the PI to shame them... [smash]

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take care bro..

That's also the question I like to know....on paper the bhp and torque figure looks too sedated to me....but I may just consider it if I keep my current car for occasions I need to pump up my adrenaline.
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By the way, today I read a biz times article that PI vezel price can be as low as $109k.� is it true?� how much price you vezel owners paid and what omv your vezel is ?� I would like to do some assessment of the depreciation.

Look around. Got lower. Pm me.

Bros, any advice whether I should pay the penalty and cancel my contract?

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The situation is, I booked a Vezel X from one PI (famous in this forum) at certain price (market price at that time). Paid 5K deposit and 10K for COE bidding. But the key is, no COE rebate given. So now the COE dropped 10K and�Vezel X selling price dropped my than 5K, so should I ask to cancel my agreement?

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To me buying from PI is gambling and lose is just lose. But my wife says we should always go for better deal. Even we lose some admin charges, we can easily get it back if COE drops further after Aug.

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Any advice? Sincere thanks!

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maybe request them nicely to let you have the updated selling price, some friendly relations can go a long way.

If not, as long as they don't ask you to top up money, if they get you your car "early"... enjoy your ride sooner. I think it's better than to lose deposit and "admin fees".

Bros, any advice whether I should pay the penalty and cancel my contract?
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The situation is, I booked a Vezel X from one PI (famous in this forum) at certain price (market price at that time). Paid 5K deposit and 10K for COE bidding. But the key is, no COE rebate given. So now the COE dropped 10K and�Vezel X selling price dropped my than 5K, so should I ask to cancel my agreement?
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To me buying from PI is gambling and lose is just lose. But my wife says we should always go for better deal. Even we lose some admin charges, we can easily get it back if COE drops further after Aug.
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Any advice? Sincere thanks!

Coe drop of 10k is over couple of biddings. Have you gotten your coe yet?

Coe drop of 10k is over couple of biddings. Have you gotten your coe yet?

if got COE then I will not complain at all. The problem is, PI says they will not bid till Sep or later when the unit arrives SG. So need to wait for so long and at the same time, see COE drops fast

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maybe request them nicely to let you have the updated selling price, some friendly relations can go a long way.

If not, as long as they don't ask you to top up money, if they get you your car "early"... enjoy your ride sooner. I think it's better than to lose deposit and "admin fees".

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you have to be really very lucky to be able to meet such good SE from PI....

if got COE then I will not complain at all. The problem is, PI says they will not bid till Sep or later when the unit arrives SG. So need to wait for so long and at the same time, see COE drops fast

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did they give you any delivery date?

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you have to be really very lucky to be able to meet such good SE from PI....

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did they give you any delivery date?

In the contract, it only says to be delivered approximately in 3-4 month

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Now looking at the contract I signed, really feel so stupid. No COE rebate, no exact delivery date... First time to buy from PI, so just chose one most people bought from. End up like this...sigh

In the contract, it only says to be delivered approximately in 3-4 month

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Now looking at the contract I signed, really feel so stupid. No COE rebate, no exact delivery date... First time to buy from PI, so just chose one most people bought from. End up like this...sigh

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bro, dun hv to feel this way la.. just take it as a learning lesson... now just hope that they will honor your contract....

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if PI (unscrupulous�one)�wana chu pattern, no matter how details u wrote in the SA, they will gv u 1001 excuses to lowball you...

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haiz.. it hard but truth...

Edited by Vins, 23 July 2015 - 10:21 AM.

Coe drop of 10k is over couple of biddings. Have you gotten your coe yet?

A lot of driver really con by dealer . Some time don't need to panic. Do home work first and remain calm.

Here is a piece of good news from BT 22 July 2015 -�http://www.sgcarmart...e.php?AID=13335

- "Registrations were led by the Honda Vezel with a whopping 1,242 units, or almost four out of every 10 cars."

- This means that we should be able to find spare parts easily for the Vezel !

if got COE then I will not complain at all. The problem is, PI says they will not bid till Sep or later when the unit arrives SG. So need to wait for so long and at the same time, see COE drops fast

Hmm..quite bull...usually is bid first within the stipulated no. Of bids and deliver asap. If you paid a good price, hold. Hope the best for you bro.

Here is a piece of good news from BT 22 July 2015 -�http://www.sgcarmart...e.php?AID=13335
- "Registrations were led by the Honda Vezel with a whopping 1,242 units, or almost four out of every 10 cars."
- This means that we should be able to find spare parts easily for the Vezel !

And gd resale..

Hmm..quite bull...usually is bid first within the stipulated no. Of bids and deliver asap. If you paid a good price, hold. Hope the best for you bro.
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Yah, agreed with Andyngps on the bulls.

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I passed my PI the deposit cheque on Monday and they got approval of the loan with the banks on Tuesday and proceed to bid and got my coe on Wednesday when my car not even in SG yet.

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It all boils down to the greed appetite of the PIs.

Edited by Tolecnal, 23 July 2015 - 11:34 AM.

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