mycarforum: Private property prices... Up or Down? part 60

eh 353 pages, you all tok so much, so up or down? hahhaha

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i need to start part 2 soon....

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start part 2 for what.. it will still have the same questions and answers as part 1 LOL

Bro T2 also kenna fooled by this before. Asking prices are mostly just an illusion, sometimes set for "fishing" purposes.�

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You trying to bait your bro to say u misunderstand him or twist his words again ah.. bloody twat� [furious]

there is only one ip man here Angcheek

Hahhaa handsome, thanks mate.

3 Br : 710 ........... waaa need to be very thin to stay there

I wonder how big are the bedrooms... And some more 3 bedrooms leh ...
Maybe put only "ti-lan", aka thin mattress ... And after sleeping, fold away

Really ah, the units are getting smaller nowadays ...

bro, 1 room can put 4 beds la

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Edited by Wt_know, 30 August 2016 - 09:40 PM.

I wonder how big are the bedrooms... And some more 3 bedrooms leh ...
Maybe put only "ti-lan", aka thin mattress ... And after sleeping, fold away

Really ah, the units are getting smaller nowadays ...

I think can only fit one single into the room . Like a maid rm

700-800 square feet 3 roomer now the norm for most new developments

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The 2nd and 3rd rooms usually get squeezed and in some only a single bed.

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Time is changing and� this may become the new norm

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Psychologically always fee good to say I stay in a 3 roomer, actually only about 700 square feet [laugh]

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I wonder how big are the bedrooms... And some more 3 bedrooms leh ...
Maybe put only "ti-lan", aka thin mattress ... And after sleeping, fold away

Really ah, the units are getting smaller nowadays ...

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700-800 square feet 3 roomer now the norm for most new developments

The 2nd and 3rd rooms usually get squeezed and in some only a single bed.

Time is changing and this may become the new norm

Psychologically always fee good to say I stay in a 3 roomer, actually only about 700 square feet

poiz-residences-Urban-Floor-Plan-3BR.jpg

Kitchen area disappeared mostly.

bedroom3 basically is a bigger store room ... [hur]

may be can be a children room below 12 years old

Edited by Wt_know, 30 August 2016 - 10:38 PM.

700-800 square feet 3 roomer now the norm for most new developments

The 2nd and 3rd rooms usually get squeezed and in some only a single bed.

Time is changing and this may become the new norm

Psychologically always fee good to say I stay in a 3 roomer, actually only about 700 square feet

poiz-residences-Urban-Floor-Plan-3BR.jpg

Wtf?!?!
Bedroom smaller than my toilet?!?!
Wah lan eh.........bo wueh kong.....

*shake head* sigh.....

CCR will always lead ... and soon everywhere will also inch higher and higher ...
Huat ah ....

But hopefully economy will improve for the prices to go up :)

I concur, hope economy improves...everybody huat!

Who is A-zhen??

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700-800 square feet 3 roomer now the norm for most new developments

The 2nd and 3rd rooms usually get squeezed and in some only a single bed.

Time is changing and this may become the new norm

Psychologically always fee good to say I stay in a 3 roomer, actually only about 700 square feet

New launch units are getting smaller and smaller, moving towards the Hong Kong route.

Developers should provide some flexibility, choice to opt out one wall to be 2 bed.

700 square feet for 2 bed still workable, for 3 bed...simply... [sweatdrop]

I wonder how big are the bedrooms... And some more 3 bedrooms leh ...
Maybe put only "ti-lan", aka thin mattress ... And after sleeping, fold away

Really ah, the units are getting smaller nowadays ...

3 bed is a family size unit, but if no yard for laundry, no storeroom for stuff...how does that work? [hur]

Still have to minus off ac ledge and balcony, so actual liveable space... left with how much? [sweatdrop]

The rich buy this type of unit as store room. No need worry about space lar

700sf for 3 bedrooms is a very common design for those government subsidized medium cost housing in Malaysia since some three decades ago.

In HK, three bedrooms with two full bathtub bathrooms can be neatly squeezed into an impressive space of 646sf, and selling for close to US$1m.

http://hk.on.cc/hk/b..._00842_001.html

??A-zhen??

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I am someone who is into property, but with connections with A-zhen, who alert me to new launches, and pass me photos of views taken from uncompleted buildings.�

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Btw, all the info I put up in this forum can be found in the Internet, including the room sizes of Forest Woods. �I did not make anything up. � �

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Just to illustrate, for example, I compile info on GLS. �Here is a snapshot of what to expect in the coming months, highlighted in YELLOW.�

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I am someone who is into property, but with connections with A-zhen, who alert me to new launches, and pass me photos of views taken from uncompleted buildings.

Btw, all the info I put up in this forum can be found in the Internet, including the room sizes of Forest Woods. I did not make anything up.

Just to illustrate, for example, I compile info on GLS. Here is a snapshot of what to expect in the coming months, highlighted in YELLOW.

URA Land Sales in 2015.jpg

Just kidding brudder.

Just trying to show to the cynics what it sounds like.

Hope some bros do benefit from your sharing.

bro, 1 room can put 4 beds la

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Alamak ... I didn't like developer

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So, the developers all say that we can have 2 beds in a room ... just that its double-beds

3 bed is a family size unit, but if no yard for laundry, no storeroom for stuff...how does that work?

Still have to minus off ac ledge and balcony, so actual liveable space... left with how much?

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Still have to minus 2 toilets ... I think left only a mini living room, cum open kitchen ...

The sofa in living room can act as bed too ...

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What kaoz ... no wonder we are getting stressed ... stress even living in our home

went to visit a friend who moved into a 4 br condo

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his 3 kids have a room each...so lucky and elite

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but each kid's room can only accommodate 1 customised single bed with storage below when the bed is lifted up and the wardrobe provided by the developer

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the balcony is so huge, it stretches from the living room to 1 of the kids' bedroom and then the MBR

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supposedly 1300++ sqft but a lot of the space went to the balcony

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Edited by Enye, 31 August 2016 - 09:02 AM.

balcony can be used to air clothes ma ... muahahaha

went to visit a friend who moved into a 4 br condo

his 3 kids have a room each...so lucky and elite

but each kid's room can only accommodate 1 customised single bed with storage below when the bed is lifted up and the wardrobe provided by the developer

the balcony is so huge, it stretches from the living room to 1 of the kids' bedroom and then the MBR

supposedly 1300++ sqft but a lot of the space went to the balcony

Did u check out the master bedroom? Can it fit a king size bed?

Doggie's hdbee guest bedroom can fit a king size plus a single bed if there werent built in cabinets on both ends

Edited by Pinobii, 31 August 2016 - 09:14 AM.

Did u check out the master bedroom? Can it fit a king size bed?

Doggie's hdbee guest bedroom can fit a king size plus a single bed if there werent built in cabinets on both ends

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can fit lah just less walking space that's all

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chief considering to buy new car and new condo....

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must be promoted to c suite liao

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Did u check out the master bedroom? Can it fit a king size bed?

Doggie's hdbee guest bedroom can fit a king size plus a single bed if there werent built in cabinets on both ends

HDB floor plan size and value is unbeatable. Only tiny gripe is certain places the ceiling is low. High ceiling can be overrated but it makes a difference on a hot day unless one's air con is turned on whole day. Nowadays also see a lot of loft design especially for condo. It might be the only way forward for space starved ST.

Edited by Showster, 31 August 2016 - 09:31 AM.

went to visit a friend who moved into a 4 br condo

his 3 kids have a room each...so lucky and elite

but each kid's room can only accommodate 1 customised single bed with storage below when the bed is lifted up and the wardrobe provided by the developer

the balcony is so huge, it stretches from the living room to 1 of the kids' bedroom and then the MBR

supposedly 1300++ sqft but a lot of the space went to the balcony

The developer understand who is the real master of the family, and who is the main income provider.
When the husband offend the master he will be exile to the balcony, since he is the one paying for the property, we must make the balcony swee swee for him.

went to visit a friend who moved into a 4 br condo

his 3 kids have a room each...so lucky and elite

but each kid's room can only accommodate 1 customised single bed with storage below when the bed is lifted up and the wardrobe provided by the developer

the balcony is so huge, it stretches from the living room to 1 of the kids' bedroom and then the MBR

supposedly 1300++ sqft but a lot of the space went to the balcony

Luxurious indeed. Can do yoga and hopscotch.

Congrats to your friend for being able to customize something that suits his needs.

any condo projects without balcony?

if i'm not mistaken condo built in the last 10 years (from 2005 onwards) all got balcony liao

i don't fancy balcony

any condo project that is less than 10 years old with 1200-1400 sqft without balcony?

look at this balcony ... it's as big as a guest room [mad]

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Balcony-in-Singapore-with-clothes-drying

Edited by Wt_know, 31 August 2016 - 09:43 AM.

any condo projects without balcony?

if i'm not mistaken condo built in the last 10 years (from 2005 onwards) all got balcony liao

i don't fancy balcony

any condo project that is less than 10 years old with 1200-1400 sqft without balcony?

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oops solli thats older than 10 lol

Edited by Duckduck, 31 August 2016 - 09:48 AM.

Luxurious indeed. Can do yoga and hopscotch.

Congrats to your friend for being able to customize something that suits his needs.

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of course luxurious lah...anything customised is luxurious as costly = �luxurious

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the developer knows they are selling homes to elite people so no need to give so much space to the bedrooms to fit off the shelf furniture as the home owners have so much money they can afford to customise every single room�

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and my elite colleague never invite us for cny visit liao after we went for 1 year that his living room is so small that some need to stand and chat outside the door ... lol

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of course luxurious lah...anything customised is luxurious as costly = �luxurious

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the developer knows they are selling homes to elite people so no need to give so much space to the bedrooms to fit off the shelf furniture as the home owners have so much money they can afford to customise every single room�

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any condo projects without balcony?
if i'm not mistaken condo built in the last 10 years (from 2005 onwards) all got balcony liao
i don't fancy balcony
any condo project that is less than 10 years old with 1200-1400 sqft without balcony?
look at this balcony ... it's as big as a guest room

Relaxing! Love the theme.

and my elite colleague never invite us for cny visit liao after we went for 1 year that his living room is so small that some need to stand and chat outside the door ... lol

Your elite colleague should make use of the common facilities. I every year also go to my elite relative place to use their facilities. Spacious exterior and efficient use of space.

Last time the population was 2.3m and HK was 5 - 6m

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so its natural we are moving to HK size homes with our

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population at 5.5m.

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Anyway if you love your wife and kids you don't need such

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a big house where they can hide from you except for MIL.

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People really don't need so much space. Instead of a desk

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with PC, monitor, keyboard and mouse, I just sit on the sofa

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with an Ipad.

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And if there is not enough space you can even make love

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standing up.

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This is one I made earlier.

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and my elite colleague never invite us for cny visit liao after we went for 1 year that his living room is so small that some need to stand and chat outside the door ... lol

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who said no space to go inside the condo?

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you don't understand the concept of crush load?

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need Ms Saw to explain to you again?

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of course luxurious lah...anything customised is luxurious as costly = luxurious

the developer knows they are selling homes to elite people so no need to give so much space to the bedrooms to fit off the shelf furniture as the home owners have so much money they can afford to customise every single room

Exactly. Even elites need to budget a bit. Buy empty space and save for customisation or save on space to spend on customisation.

Ikea does have some customization options though. I am doing much measurements to increase usable space since it is a huge concern for most. It helps with a ceiling higher than 3.5m.

balcony can be used to air clothes ma ... muahahaha

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Also balcony can be the dining area too ...�

haha ... that's different

the point to invite people to your house is to check out your place ...

showcase your living room 60" curve led, watches in the box and walk-in wardrobe ... LOL

if go down to common room and bbq pits ... no point ! muahahaha

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Your elite colleague should make use of the common facilities. I every year also go to my elite relative place to use their facilities. Spacious exterior and efficient use of space.

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Edited by Wt_know, 31 August 2016 - 10:11 AM.

any condo projects without balcony?

if i'm not mistaken condo built in the last 10 years (from 2005 onwards) all got balcony liao

i don't fancy balcony

any condo project that is less than 10 years old with 1200-1400 sqft without balcony?

look at this balcony ... it's as big as a guest room

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Kids playing ground, mini golf :))

and my elite colleague never invite us for cny visit liao after we went for 1 year that his living room is so small that some need to stand and chat outside the door ... lol

Must be you keep using the word small in his place. When I go to my elite friend and relative place I always comment on the space wherever I can find. Or use words like cosy and comfortable, closely knit.

Try my tips and your invitation count will go up.

haha ... that's different
the point to invite people to your house is to check out your place ...
showcase your living room 60" curve led, watches in the box and walk-in wardrobe ... LOL
if go down to common room and bbq pits ... no point ! muahahaha

But unless your friends and relatives can swim in the pool and mingle in the function room? Some more no need to self maintain or clean.

I have another friend who has a jumbo flat with function room. We only went once because it is such a headache cleaning up.

It's like tabao versus home cooked food. I love home cooked but it's just too much of a hassle for me. Tabao whatever you need, whenever.

Must be you keep using the word small in his place. When I go to my elite friend and relative place I always comment on the space wherever I can find. Or use words like cosy and comfortable, closely knit.

Try my tips and your invitation count will go up.
But unless your friends and relatives can swim in the pool and mingle in the function room? Some more no need to self maintain or clean.

I have another friend who has a jumbo flat with function room. We only went once because it is such a headache cleaning up.

It's like tabao versus home cooked food. I love home cooked but it's just too much of a hassle for me. Tabao whatever you need, whenever.

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wah ...slick agent talk

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small unit = easy to take care

big unit =� so shiok ... somemore what you want

Best Buy, Sure Buy, Must buy !

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wah ...slick agent talk

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Edited by Wt_know, 31 August 2016 - 10:39 AM.

2017 is the supply peak, so i thk prices will find bottom 2H17 to 1H18

2017 is the supply peak, so i thk prices will find bottom 2H17 to 1H18

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I always like a nice bottom.

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Hopefully followed by a big top.

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2017 is the supply peak, so i thk prices will find bottom 2H17 to 1H18

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I always like a nice bottom.

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Hopefully followed by a big top.

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2017 is the supply peak, so i thk prices will find bottom 2H17 to 1H18

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I always like a nice bottom.

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Hopefully followed by a big top.

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2017 is the supply peak, so i thk prices will find bottom 2H17 to 1H18

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I am not interested in bottom.

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I am more interested in when it will CRASH?
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I am not interested in bottom.

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I am more interested in when it will CRASH?
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if 2018 got another global recession, plus resi supply peak = perfect crash

2017 is the supply peak, so i thk prices will find bottom 2H17 to 1H18

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I always like a nice bottom.

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Hopefully followed by a big top.

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2017 is the supply peak, so i thk prices will find bottom 2H17 to 1H18

I hope you have an idea what you are talking about.

We can disagree with interpretation but never with raw numbers.

Do you trust pipeline supply or actual supply?

HDB peak was in 2014. Private peak was in 2015.

Of course if you have a more trustworthy set of data and source do share.

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Edited by Showster, 31 August 2016 - 11:42 AM.

went to visit a friend who moved into a 4 br condo

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his 3 kids have a room each...so lucky and elite

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but each kid's room can only accommodate 1 customised single bed with storage below when the bed is lifted up and the wardrobe provided by the developer

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the balcony is so huge, it stretches from the living room to 1 of the kids' bedroom and then the MBR

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supposedly 1300++ sqft but a lot of the space went to the balcony

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be grateful got wardrobe.. in future, maybe just a single bed ok... LOL

This is the latest

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Edited by Dafansu, 31 August 2016 - 11:55 AM.

This is the latest

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stupid HDB.. cutting supply again...�

There are always choices.

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As of now, new developments, near new developments, older developments, generally still offer a huge range in choice in terms of locality, size and price.

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My choice has always been to go out and gets something that fits my needs and affordability. If cannot afford, means not my time yet. So far, there has never been any regret with this thinking.

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If size is a concern, one can either quickly go and grab the units that are of the right size, or choose gripe about the smaller and smaller units with higher PSF (which essentially is none of your business if you do not buy them). Or can choose to sabo everyone by claiming every other person who supports property buying is an agent. Don't buy is also a feasible choice if you wish to continue with HDB, and hold cash or CPF to the maximum.

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Your choice of thinking today determines the person you become tomorrow.

i think you meant ...

HDB holding up property price with supply right ... [sly] �

huat ah! [laugh]

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stupid HDB.. cutting supply again...�

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Edited by Wt_know, 31 August 2016 - 12:24 PM.

Thanks!

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Looks like 2015 and 2016 should be even in numbers.

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And more ECs and less PCs will be expected from 2018.

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This is the latest

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Don't forget SERS and enbloc effect.

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i think you meant ...

HDB holding up property price with supply right ... �

huat ah!

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I hope you have an idea what you are talking about.

We can disagree with interpretation but never with raw numbers.

Do you trust pipeline supply or actual supply?

HDB peak was in 2014. Private peak was in 2015.

Of course if you have a more trustworthy set of data and source do share.

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i not counting hdb coz i looking at private only.

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https://www.ura.gov....ul/pr16-49.aspx

I always like a nice bottom.

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Hopefully followed by a big top.

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Arent these what we want?

Precisely. Unsold units steadily dropping although at peak supply in 2015-2016 (Maybe there is a tie between 2015 and 2016 but its been 2 years of peak supply).

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What will happen in 2017/2018 when supply drops? Your guess is as good as mine.

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i not counting hdb coz i looking at private only.

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https://www.ura.gov....ul/pr16-49.aspx

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Precisely. Unsold units steadily dropping although at peak supply in 2015-2016 (Maybe there is a tie between 2015 and 2016 but its been 2 years of peak supply).

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What will happen in 2017/2018 when supply drops? Your guess is as good as mine.

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sold units is just 1 factor, the total supply amount is pushing rents lower so prices cant climb unless rents up too. just too many units for rent, nothing to do with sold or not as u have to factor in existing old units too

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If looking at supply instead of sold units, 2017 cld mark the bottom as i mentioned 2H17-1H18. So as the flood of completions supply reduce, rents then will go up again

Edited by Duckduck, 31 August 2016 - 01:12 PM.

Noted bro. So you are the type who won't buy cars at peak quota but will buy just after quota reduce?

Good luck and see you in 2017. Join our ranks then.

Don't say bolui ok?

sold units is just 1 factor, the total supply amount is pushing rents lower so prices cant climb unless rents up too. just too many units for rent, nothing to do with sold or not as u have to factor in existing old units too

If looking at supply instead of sold units, 2017 cld mark the bottom as i mentioned 2H17-1H18

Edited by Showster, 31 August 2016 - 01:17 PM.

Noted bro. So you are the type who won't buy cars at peak quota but will buy just after quota reduce?

Good luck and see you in 2017.
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in terms of when to buy, now onwards to the next 24mths is best long term IMO

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have to add political risk premium when projecting price growth. eg. they may not remove any CMs for next few yrs

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remember that its been almost 10yrs since last global recession, so add that risk premium in too when looking at prices

Edited by Duckduck, 31 August 2016 - 01:25 PM.

Also do factor in the steady growth of income since 2009 and the price falls during 2013-2016 (almost like a mini-recession) when other countries prices continued to spike some 30%.

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in terms of when to buy, now onwards to the next 24mths is best long term IMO

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have to add political risk premium when projecting price growth. eg. they may not remove any CMs for next few yrs

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remember that its been almost 10yrs since last global recession, so add that risk premium in too when looking at prices

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There are always choices.

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As of now, new developments, near new developments, older developments, generally still offer a huge range in choice in terms of locality, size and price.

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My choice has always been to go out and gets something that fits my needs and affordability. If cannot afford, means not my time yet. So far, there has never been any regret with this thinking.

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If size is a concern, one can either quickly go and grab the units that are of the right size, or choose gripe about the smaller and smaller units with higher PSF (which essentially is none of your business if you do not buy them). Or can choose to sabo everyone by claiming every other person who supports property buying is an agent. Don't buy is also a feasible choice if you wish to continue with HDB, and hold cash or CPF to the maximum.

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Your choice of thinking today determines the person you become tomorrow.

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wow...you managed to subtly make it sound like non-property investors would be the lesser persons of tomorrow

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well done

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Edited by Enye, 31 August 2016 - 01:55 PM.

You are excellent at putting words in people's mouths.

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I am saying if people want to buy, get one that fits one's conditions and buy.

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Don't want to buy, don't need.

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Different risk profiles, different outcomes.

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Don't be like those who want to deploy their 700K but keep finding excuses.�

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wow...you managed to subtly make it sound like non-property investors would be the lesser persons of tomorrow

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well done

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factor supply

factor unsold, rented and old units

factor CM removed

factor interest rates

factor FT floodgate open

factor mozzie

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like that how to buy? lol

Edited by Wt_know, 31 August 2016 - 02:38 PM.

You are excellent at putting words in people's mouths.

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I am saying if people want to buy, get one that fits one's conditions and buy.

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Don't want to buy, don't need.

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Different risk profiles, different outcomes.

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Don't be like those who want to deploy their 700K but keep finding excuses.�

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did i put words into your mouth?�
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these were your own words btw.....

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look at the subliminal messages embedded�

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If size is a concern, one can either quickly go and grab the units that are of the right size, or choose gripe about the smaller and smaller units with higher PSF (which essentially is none of your business if you do not buy them). Or can choose to sabo everyone by claiming every other person who supports property buying is an agent. Don't buy is also a feasible choice if you wish to continue with HDB, and hold cash or CPF to the maximum.

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Your choice of thinking today determines the person you become tomorrow.

In the case of The Trilinq, the increase in sales might have come too late. �As of end Jul 2016, there is still 391 unsold units. �There is barely 6 months left to the deadline. �Now IOI, the developer, has to sell at least 65 units per month from now, not 50 units per month as calculated in the beginning of the year.

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The situation for The Trilinq has gotten worse! �

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But if the private property market can recover fast enough, IOI might get a slim chance to escape paying the ABSD penalty. �

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Personally, I will not recommend buying The Trilinq, if the review by Proper Square is to be believed: �

http://www.propersqu...nq#.V8FHQSzr3IU

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At the end of the day, you must like what you see, then make the decision. �Happy house hunting!

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it sucks.

Lol but my brother in law's sister bought a unit there.

I only knew after i criticized it in front of him� -_- � [shakehead]

Relook those words in red again.

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I meant to say that low / zero risk using HDB and cash / CPF is feasible. (Note: these people are contented and they are safe).

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Griping about small size etc doesn't make developers build bigger units right? If you want to buy and choose to gripe, there will be lots of disappointment tomorrow isn't it?

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Your own subliminal thoughts are speaking to you bro.

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did i put words into your mouth?�
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these were your own words btw.....

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look at the subliminal messages embedded�

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If size is a concern, one can either quickly go and grab the units that are of the right size, or choose gripe about the smaller and smaller units with higher PSF (which essentially is none of your business if you do not buy them). Or can choose to sabo everyone by claiming every other person who supports property buying is an agent. Don't buy is also a feasible choice if you wish to continue with HDB, and hold cash or CPF to the maximum.

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Your choice of thinking today determines the person you become tomorrow.

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Edited by Showster, 31 August 2016 - 02:42 PM.

Relook those words in red again.

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I meant to say that low / zero risk using HDB and cash / CPF is feasible. (Note: these people are contented and they are safe).

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Griping about small size etc doesn't make developers build bigger units right? If you want to buy and choose to gripe, there will be lots of disappointment tomorrow isn't it?

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Your own subliminal thoughts are speaking to you bro.

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slick twisting as usual

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never mind...i'll just leave it to the readers here to judge on their own

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bye!

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Edited by Enye, 31 August 2016 - 02:50 PM.

what down? where got down?

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Property taxes collected up 2.7%: IRAS

what down? where got down?

Property taxes collected up 2.7%: IRAS

Happily collecting this and absd.. how to remove like that. Not forgetting rising coes.

I am sure readers can read our sincerity and motivation.

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slick twisting as usual

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never mind...i'll just leave it to the readers here to judge on their own

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bye!

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what down? where got down?

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Property taxes collected up 2.7%: IRAS

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Its a huge income ... so, they will think many many times if want to reduce the taxes ...

HDB floor plan size and value is unbeatable. Only tiny gripe is certain places the ceiling is low. High ceiling can be overrated but it makes a difference on a hot day unless one's air con is turned on whole day. Nowadays also see a lot of loft design especially for condo. It might be the only way forward for space starved ST.

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high ceiling overrated lah. Want to remove cobwebs also more marfan� [laugh]

Do anything also have to use ladder, can't use stool�

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HDB dweller's biased opinion� -_-

Not biased.

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Not only that. Climb up and down also not suitable for very young kids or very old people.

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But the context here is the high price and lack of space in SG.�

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If we cannot really change those factors too much, we can only make lifestyle modifications to cope. Those who can use adopt those strategies will use them.

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high ceiling overrated lah. Want to remove cobwebs also more marfan�

Do anything also have to use ladder, can't use stool�

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HDB dweller's biased opinion�

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in terms of when to buy, now onwards to the next 24mths is best long term IMO

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have to add political risk premium when projecting price growth. eg. they may not remove any CMs for next few yrs

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remember that its been almost 10yrs since last global recession, so add that risk premium in too when looking at prices

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great advice!

factor supply
factor unsold, rented and old units
factor CM removed
factor interest rates
factor FT floodgate open
factor mozzie

like that how to buy? lol

Factor supply verse unsold, rented and old units. Don't buy.
Factor cm removed Abd interest rate - don't buy.

Factor ft floodgate open but mozzie kill off foreigner - don't buy...

There is no how to buy, only don't buy.

Absolutely spot on Bro

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Not forgetting full size windows from floor to high ceiling in some condos

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Nice to see very hard to maintain

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Need to have full time contract professional window and house cleaners liao

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high ceiling overrated lah. Want to remove cobwebs also more marfan�

Do anything also have to use ladder, can't use stool�

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HDB dweller's biased opinion�

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Absolutely spot on Bro

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Not forgetting full size windows from floor to high ceiling in some condos

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Nice to see very hard to maintain

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Need to have full time contract professional window and house cleaners liao

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Inside must have maid to wipe. Outside then LL� [laugh]

what down? where got down?

Property taxes collected up 2.7%: IRAS

As usual, garmen huat!

http://www.straitsti...-financial-year
Record tax revenue of $44.8b collected in last financial year

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Good time to buy? big boys are loading up!

http://www.theedgepr...ill-sold-27-mil
JUST SOLD: Villa at Peirce Hill sold for $27 mil
August 25, 2016

http://business.asia...alow-30-million
ValueMax CEO buys Katong freehold bungalow for $30 million
Aug 25, 2016

http://www.businesst...-at-brizay-park
Yun Nam boss picks up GCB at Brizay Park
Aug 31, 2016

YUN Nam Hair Care boss Andy Chua is understood to have picked up a Good Class Bungalow (GCB) along Brizay Park off Old Holland Road for S$33 million.

"Latest deal brings to at least 23 the number of GCB transactions so far in 2016"

http://www.businesst...dens-for-s3325m
Roxy-Pacific to buy Harbour View Gardens for S$33.25m
Aug 31, 2016

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http://www.propertyg...r-at-least-315m
Raintree Gardens launched for sale for at least $315m
August 31, 2016

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http://www.straitsti...t-keen-interest
Central Boulevard site likely to attract keen interest
Aug 31, 2016

"Property experts expect aggressive bidding from developers for plum mixed site"

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wah .... market sibei hot leh

wah .... market sibei hot leh

Yeah so hot that "new" CM is implemented today.

https://www.ura.gov....ug/pr16-55.aspx
Depends on absolute height also.

Do you prefer

2m
2.2m
2.4m
2.6m
2.8m
3m
3.2m
3.4m
3.6m?

4 or 5m of course too much.

Absolutely spot on Bro

Not forgetting full size windows from floor to high ceiling in some condos

Nice to see very hard to maintain

Need to have full time contract professional window and house cleaners liao

high ceiling overrated lah. Want to remove cobwebs also more marfan
Do anything also have to use ladder, can't use stool

HDB dweller's biased opinion

High ceiling can illegally build a loft ma.

slick twisting as usual

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never mind...i'll just leave it to the readers here to judge on their own

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bye!

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Dayum I'm late to the show. Never mind I still have my mooncakes and popcorn with me� :a-popcorn: � �

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High ceiling can illegally build a loft ma.

Lofts can be legal. I think at 3.4m and above.

Actually, connected to agents is good but hope they are the "right" agents�

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Internet claims that Forest woods is the only big��"Forest" left near to Nex.

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But looking at the map, there looks like a barren� "forest' next to Nex, where the showflat is being built now

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Land bid prices not coming down, buyers cannot possibly benefit

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I am someone who is into property, but with connections with A-zhen, who alert me to new launches, and pass me photos of views taken from uncompleted buildings.�

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Btw, all the info I put up in this forum can be found in the Internet, including the room sizes of Forest Woods. �I did not make anything up. � �

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Just to illustrate, for example, I compile info on GLS. �Here is a snapshot of what to expect in the coming months, highlighted in YELLOW.�

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URA Land Sales in 2015.jpg

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Actually, connected to agents is good but hope they are the "right" agents�

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Internet claims that Forest woods is the only big��"Forest" left near to Nex.

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But looking at the map, there looks like a barren� "forest' next to Nex, where the showflat is being built now

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Land bid prices not coming down, buyers cannot possibly benefit

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This plot of land is for commercial, the existing bus interchange and the plot next to it will be future commercial / residential

Non-landed housing sites get first DC rate increase in 2 years

huat ah!

what's wrong to collect more???

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�I have to say it�s a surprise � Market transaction values are sliding down, rentals are coming down, we are losing tenants and to see the rates of 39 sectors going up by 5 to 12 per cent is a bit surprising,� said Mr Ku Swee Yong, CEO of International Property Advisor.

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Edited by Wt_know, 01 September 2016 - 08:35 AM.

Charge suppliers more so they will sell cheaper?

Or make future developments more costly to build and sell?

I have said my piece enough. The ball is in the buyer's court.

Non-landed housing sites get first DC rate increase in 2 years
huat ah!
what's wrong to collect more???

If rental for soya bean drink stall at�prime food court site�increases from $4k to $6k

Will the quality of soya bean drop or will the price of soya bean increase?

Or worse, could it be both? [bigcry] ��

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Charge suppliers more so they will sell cheaper?

Or make future developments more costly to build and sell?

I have said my piece enough. The ball is in the buyer's court.
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If rental for soya bean drink stall at�prime food court site�increases from $4k to $6k

Will the quality of soya bean drop or will the price of soya bean increase?

Or worse, could it be both? ��

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Rent 4k.� How many soya bean have to sell to breakeven?

:XD:

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What is the administration cost of collecting the $44.8B tax? �Using the given information, 0.83 cent is spent to collect $1, this is = $44.8B x 0.0083 / 1.00 = $317.84M

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This money is paid to the IRAS employees plus overheads costs. �Very good pay. �How to verify? Check the models of the employees' cars parked at IRAS building.� [lipsrsealed]

Considered cheap liao. In some countries, collect $1 tax need to pay administrator 83 cents.

Absolute amount spent - Overheads.jpg

What is the administration cost of collecting the $44.8B tax? Using the given information, 0.83 cent is spent to collect $1, this is = $44.8B x 0.0083 / 1.00 = $317.84M

This money is paid to the IRAS employees plus overheads costs. Very good pay. How to verify? Check the models of the employees' cars parked at IRAS building.

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