the Honda Civic 2.0 has served me well and good for 7 years, thinking of an SUV that is affordable given the high COE now.... imagine I only paid $92K for my Civic in 2008 and I am selling it for 43K now....
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Yes.. I also traded in my 2006 ford focus (bought second hand for 30k in April 2010, right before the crazy coe shot up), now left with slightly more than 1 year my PI offer to take in for 13k.. that was the main reason why I decided to change to Vezel too. Really excited about my first Honda�
Any bros here who bought accessories from Taobao to decorate their Vezel can recommend car workshops to install them? Although my ride isn't here yet, already poisoning myself with some stuff I plan to put in the car.
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Very much set on installing the chrome finishing around the windows and rear door handles:
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As well as the boot cover:
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Other KIV items include the chrome finishing on the front and rear fog lights:
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and this custom 'day' fog light (not sure LTA compliant or not too):
http://detail.tmall....793_6592&pos=22
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In any case, anyone with a good workshop which charges reasonably for the installation of these taobao extras? Appreciate if you could share your contacts
Edited by Smeagol, 04 February 2015 - 11:24 PM.
I have�just gotten my COE at $62,002 this afternoon, all thanks to a wonderful and efficient salesperson from Mister Cars Pte Ltd. He was�always there to advise me and had never�pressured me into this commitment for the Honda Vezel. In�fact, he even assured me that he will guaranteed delivery of�the car to me before CNY. I also�had a reasonable offer from him for my trade in of my 7 years�Honda Civic 2.0�at the same time. All in all, everything went so smoothly and�I had only transferred the required deposit to him with less than 1 hour to the closing bidding time of the COE�at 4pm today.�
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My family is looking forward to the collection of my new car next week :) Any current Vezel owners have lobang for me to trade in my new rims and tyres, I am thinking of changing it to a 17" or is it possible to have 18" with low profile tyres? I will be hunting for Mugen accessories, if bros have lobang, please share with me too :)
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Thank you very much.
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Hi bro, if you are interested in taiwan rims (RM), they have a big collection at Cheng An Da, Kaki bukit. You can goggle them and find out more. I have change mine to 17" and trade in my existing 16" vezel rims.
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BTW, your PI should also have a tyre and audio WS that they will normally recommend. You can select and they will get it change for you even before you collect your car. Not forgetting solar film as well.
Edited by Dino-Lee, 04 February 2015 - 11:27 PM.
Frankly speaking, I was very happy with the final price once the COE bidding closed at 4pm today. My final car price was $5k lower�than the original price quoted before COE bidding :p lols...... I was quoted $120,888 with a capping of the COE at $67,000, pressure from me to increase it from $65,000 :p.... My final price is $115,890 after deducting the rebate :) heehee......�
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haha, wrong leh. 120k coe no cap because it was guaranteed delivery. It's the rebate level that I increased to 67k for you because of pressure from you, otherwise my rebate normally is at 65k. Meaning if coe drop below 67k, you get dollar for dollar. lol. 65k coe bid cap was for the other 118k offer. If you went with that, then at least I can make a bit more. haha.�
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Thanks once again. haha
Edited by mistercars, 04 February 2015 - 11:36 PM.
Btw, anybody keen in genuine Mugen or Modulo kit ah? Cost price for 1st person. "Guinea" haha. So we can use your kit to create cheaper kits for the others. lol...�
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Personally i am just getting used to the road noise. If new smooth road it is ok. But old rough roads....
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Guess can't have everything...beautiful body..nice 2 door look, good performance and consumption.
Abit of a blind spot around the side mirrors so have to be careful when turning.
Also..always remember to handover the keys when leaving the car if passing it to another driver as the car can still drive until the driver press the stop button then the engine stops. Had to take a cab to take the key which was with me to the car recently. Other than this engine should stop if the key is not within afew metres of it, its really convenient to be able to open and start the car with keys in the pocket.
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Did some sound proofing on the doors and bonnet...left out the firewall and floor as hesitant about the extra weight.�
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I think for Vezel Black is Brillant Black..so its glossy. The silver also good not dull. I took the white as didnt know what the other 2 colours look like on the car...but white looks good too. �
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No idea on PI as its the first time i am getting thu a PI too. Guess look as the previous posted list of where everyone been buying from and bargain around.
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Personally not a hybrid fan. The fuel consumption is good enough for petrol. Hybrid i am not sure as one car guy i met told me there is a motor to consider and also the battery..so some extra cost considerations in future....but the gear shift is cool!
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I find the engine is a bit noisy as well compare to my old sylphy. How did your sound proofing perform? Any noticeable drop in noise?
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However the power in vezel is just fantastic. It will just pick u and gooo.....
COE bid and passed! First SUV I will be driving, currently driving Yaris but kinda small for a family with a baby. So decided to change car.
Is there a Vezel Fan Club?
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I think I will be getting my car next week before CNY and I am so looking forward to it.
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Congratulations! Welcome to the club. Remember to update the list.�
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Congratulations! Welcome to the club. Remember to update the list.�
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Thanks!
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What list to update? New to here...
My ride will be reaching 5K servicing next week. As my WS do not carry W30 EO, I have to purchase outside seperately. They will be charging $60 for labor cost, which I think it is expensive but no choice as I do not wish to void the warranty.
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Shorlisted 2 EO as below; liqui moly and x-rev. For x-rev, they give free zero friction additive to be added, which i do not think it is necessary for a new car. Any bro recommendation which i should choose?
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Frankly speaking, I was very happy with the final price once the COE bidding closed at 4pm today. My final car price was $5k lower�than the original price quoted before COE bidding :p lols...... I was quoted $120,888 with a capping of the COE at $67,000, pressure from me to increase it from $65,000 :p.... My final price is $115,890 after deducting the rebate :) heehee......�
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Wow!!!powerful!! Kudos to Mister Cars! Pro and willing to do good business!!
My ride will be reaching 5K servicing next week. As my WS do not carry W30 EO, I have to purchase outside seperately. They will be charging $60 for labor cost, which I think it is expensive but no choice as I do not wish to void the warranty.
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Shorlisted 2 EO as below; liqui moly and x-rev. For x-rev, they give free zero friction additive to be added, which i do not think it is necessary for a new car. Any bro recommendation which i should choose?
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I asked for discount on total fee b4 and was given without hesitation,mayb u can ask for discount,might have. I very much like to furnish some facts that during different servicing, WS charged me very different prices. But i have to withold for now. P&C. Am utterly confused at the moment, why no standard charges for specific jobs,why same car different client can be charged differently?
I shall be calling in to test water soon,well b4 my next servicing. Else have to bring it up to PI and see if they wanna take responsibility to speak to WS.
Edited by Rationalexuberance, 05 February 2015 - 12:40 AM.
mazda 3 outside look nice, but inside very cramp.
The space of vezel beats mazda 3 hands down, mazda 3 has the tightest space among all the 1.6 japanese sedans I have seen.
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Btw I am 1.8 metres tall. Rear legroom and headroom is one of the deciding factor.
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Thot ceratec only for higher mileage engine? New engine literally no wear ceramic coating only coats worn n rough surface.If liquimoly,go add ceratec!! Powerful and useful stuff.
LM for me. I've tried xrev b4. It like any other eo. Now on castrol edge titanium 5w30 w ceratec. Smooth feel.My ride will be reaching 5K servicing next week. As my WS do not carry W30 EO, I have to purchase outside seperately. They will be charging $60 for labor cost, which I think it is expensive but no choice as I do not wish to void the warranty.
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Shorlisted 2 EO as below; liqui moly and x-rev. For x-rev, they give free zero friction additive to be added, which i do not think it is necessary for a new car. Any bro recommendation which i should choose?
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My ride will be reaching 5K servicing next week. As my WS do not carry W30 EO, I have to purchase outside seperately. They will be charging $60 for labor cost, which I think it is expensive but no choice as I do not wish to void the warranty.
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Shorlisted 2 EO as below; liqui moly and x-rev. For x-rev, they give free zero friction additive to be added, which i do not think it is necessary for a new car. Any bro recommendation which i should choose?
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Just for sharing.. I got Mobil-1 0W-30 Giant (IMM) close to $15/bottle of 946ml.
Labour wise, I saw my cost breakdown indicating $60 too, but its from a very clean & well organised WS and a very discipline team. So I felt its worth it, for me. �
mistercars, on 04 Feb 2015 - 11:40 PM, said:Btw, anybody keen in genuine Mugen or Modulo kit ah? Cost price for 1st person. "Guinea" haha. So we can use your kit to create cheaper kits for the others. lol...�
Where were you last year in Oct, when�I want to purchase�Vezel ?
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I have forked out too much money now and cant afford for any accessories.
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Do keep me posted if you can create the cheaper kits. � will need to start saving for this.
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obviously you do'nt understand the potential effect of a "sudden stop"... i dare not� imagine how my car will react if im traveling at 150kmh and someone press the stop engine button...i will not want such "feature"...
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As mentioned in my previous post before, your engine should not cut off even you (accidentally) pressed the "Engine Start/Stop" button when you on the "D" mode, and this is proven on my XC60.
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Suggested all Vezel's owner talk to you mechanic and get this rectify; as this may caused serious/fatal accident.
Maybe 0.1%. But it only need to happen once for someone to loss his/her life.
I do think this is a major flaw...
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Guys, don't play play. Suggested you talk to your mechanic and get this rectify ASAP.
Do VEZEL come with pre-install in-car air filter ? I use HEPA filter for my old civic, very effective to keep the air clean.
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http://www.healthyai...ilter-0414.html
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Wonder anyone is keen to start a mass order ?
Edited by Ongkmeng, 05 February 2015 - 10:48 AM.
This sets a new precedence that car body of X model can be bought at 53k. S model at 56k. Still minimum 10k gross profit margin. And from my previous post, all adequate accessories number 1 to 4 included,especially if max 50% or 60%, 5yr tenure loan is taken. Hybrid is ard 55-58k. Not many buyers know how to play the COE rebate game,that's why mis-informed and shortchanged. Potential buyers do be informed b4 confirming yah?! COE seems to be continuing to head south, protect ourselves with high rebate levels or just commit to body price and pay for COE whatever it turns out to be. COE belongs to us owners to depreciate over the years,CEVs are meant for govt to pass savings to owners, ARF belongs to us to get back rebates in future,not to line others' pockets.
Mean no offence to anybody, buyer or seller. Just sharing from what i learnt from my experience and simple calculations.
If calculate my car price minus the COE price... X Model only $50k and they are still making $$$
Any bros here who bought accessories from Taobao to decorate their Vezel can recommend car workshops to install them? Although my ride isn't here yet, already poisoning myself with some stuff I plan to put in the car.
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Very much set on installing the chrome finishing around the windows and rear door handles:
http://detail.tmall....036&abbucket=20
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As well as the boot cover:
http://detail.tmall....fde97a6db0a6e99
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Other KIV items include the chrome finishing on the front and rear fog lights:
http://item.taobao.c...af-17e56cc90ec7
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and this custom 'day' fog light (not sure LTA compliant or not too):
http://detail.tmall....793_6592&pos=22
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In any case, anyone with a good workshop which charges reasonably for the installation of these taobao extras? Appreciate if you could share your contacts
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Hi bro. You might wish to check out SgGarage Edwin. You can find Edwin in FB. I have use him to install my floor light. Friendly guy and reasonable cost. On the day running lights, if it doesn't come (imported) with�the car,�then all external installed lights are not approved. Any lights installed inside the car are okay.
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Having said that, I also wanted to install the Honda logo with LED at rear but�was told not approved. Installed at your own risk. Normally LTA do not inspect/spot check on the road, only during car inspection. I am thinking of adding 1 extra on/off switch to off the lights during vicom�inspection. In my previous ride, I installed�extra night LED with on/off switch. During vicom inspection, I off the LED and put black tape to cover over the LED lights .... dun quote me if anyone get caught (touch wood)
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As mentioned in my previous post before, your engine should not cut off even you (accidentally) pressed the "Engine Start/Stop" button when you on the "D" mode, and this is proven on my XC60.
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Suggested all Vezel's owner talk to you mechanic and get this rectify; as this may caused serious/fatal accident.
This cannot be rectified by your mechanic. This feature can only be changed if a program is changed in the ECU
Sui lah..50K!!If calculate my car price minus the COE price... X Model only $50k and they are still making $$$
I think to be fair to dealers who have running showrooms n overheads,still need a rubber band range of 2-3k to acct for ARF paid. OMV may be declared at will to sme extent? Which will dictate ARF payable.
So now we have 50k for X model, 53k for S model and 55k for hybrid.
Any more bros/sis want to share?
Edited by Rationalexuberance, 05 February 2015 - 11:46 AM.
Sui lah..50K!!
I think to be fair to dealers who have running showrooms n overheads,still need a rubber band range of 2-3k to acct for ARF paid. OMV may be declared at will to sme extent? Which will dictate ARF payable.
So now we have 50k for X model, 53k for S model and 55k for hybrid.
Any more bros/sis want to share?
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Cannot believe it and very sad. it goes so low.
Yet to collect my�Vezel and still waiting hopefully bf CNY?? Give up calling SE
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Booked in Oct 2014, got COE 65889 and�body�calculated�is 55.6K for X model !!!
Actual OMV unknown but around 19K. CEV committed as 10K.
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With�the secured�COE, can I buy from another PI?
Can forgo 5K deposit and still may save $$.
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Cannot believe it and very sad. it goes so low.
Yet to collect my�Vezel and still waiting hopefully bf CNY?? Give up calling SE
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Booked in Oct 2014, got COE 65889 and�body�calculated�is 55.6K for X model !!!
Actual OMV unknown but around 19K. CEV committed as 10K.
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With�the secured�COE, can I buy from another PI?
Can forgo 5K deposit and still may save $$.
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Check with LTA if a coe is in your name. Dealer's word is as good as fart.
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Parf of car is ~9.5k base on omv of 19k.
cev is 10k....mean lta win 5oo bucks????
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Cannot believe it and very sad. it goes so low.
Yet to collect my�Vezel and still waiting hopefully bf CNY?? Give up calling SE
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Booked in Oct 2014, got COE 65889 and�body�calculated�is 55.6K for X model !!!
Actual OMV unknown but around 19K. CEV committed as 10K.
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With�the secured�COE, can I buy from another PI?
Can forgo 5K deposit and still may save $$.
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Wah 4 months plus already. Has your car reached SG and VITAS done since COE already secured?
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Wah 4 months plus already. Has your car reached SG and VITAS done since COE already secured?
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Car is at the final page of registration, SE said awaiting VITAS.
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Vicom and Vitas belong to LTA.
Time loss in waiting and also COE getting lower, Can pass the cost to LTA?
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Check with LTA if a coe is in your name. Dealer's word is as good as fart.
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Parf of car is ~9.5k base on omv of 19k.
cev is 10k....mean lta win 5oo bucks????
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Checked and in my Name.
Thanks Hamburger
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Car is at the final page of registration, SE said awaiting VITAS.
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Vicom and Vitas belong to LTA.
Time loss in waiting and also COE getting lower, Can pass the cost to LTA?
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Checked and in my Name.
Thanks Hamburger
Bro... I booked on 2nd Nov and got my car on 27th Dec...
Which PI did u bought from?
Did you check when was the car sent for inspection? Sounds like the car was not even in port yet when you bought. But again I may be wrong. Hope for the best for you bro. Weird. I booked mine in Dec. Yesterday secured coe. SE called me automatically and said next week collection. Seats were done up even before my coe was secure and inspection done up in early Jan.�
Car is at the final page of registration, SE said awaiting VITAS.
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Vicom and Vitas belong to LTA.
Time loss in waiting and also COE getting lower, Can pass the cost to LTA?
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Checked and in my Name.
Thanks Hamburger
Edited by Andyngps, 05 February 2015 - 12:52 PM.
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Collected:
01) Airwaver3,White, S model, Collected (Zion Auto)
02) Soonkuay, White, X model, Collected (Cartimes)
03) tanwl1970, White, G model, Collected (Cartimes)
04) seankwa, Black, X model, Collected (Leco Prestige)
05) hermit, White, X model, Collected (Leco Prestige)
06) Nick007, Black, X model, Collected (Apex)
07) Dswm, Blue, G model, Collected (Hup Long)
08) kennethwong, Black, X model, Collected (Vincar)
09) Coolsurfer, White, G model Collected (Hup Long)
10) Shieldheart, White X model, Collected (Leco Prestige)
11) xanc, Blue, X model, Collected (Autolux)
12) Dino-lee, White, X model, Collected (Hup Long)
13) Eoh75, White, X Model, Collected (Hup Long)
14) Mcriffen, Black, S Model, Collected (Hup Long)
15) Mygdi, White, X model, Collected
16) jacteh, Blue, X model, Collected (Autolink)
17) tttwei, Blue, X model, Collected (Autolink)
18) Renalee, White, X model, Collected. (Hup Long)
19) Loko, White, X model, collected. (Zion Auto)
20) fishball81, Maroon, X model, collected. (Autolux)
21) Indulge, Black, X model, collected. (Cartimes)
22) wkloh, White, X model, collected. (TLC Auto)
23) logic69, Maroon , X model, collected. (Shawn from Autolux)
24) pokadot, White, X model, collected (Leco Automobile)
25) ivtec, White, S model, collected
26) Marck, White, X model (Leco Prestige)
27) ToiletRoll, White, X model (Cartimes)
28) LeonardoWong (??)
29) Niltrams, White Hybrid Z model (Autolink)
30) fatboysalim, Black S model (Exodus Global)
31) Krytorn, White, X model.
32) Leest, White (Leco)
33) Xiaojav, X White
34) Elinpeh, White, X Model. (Hup Long)
35) InitialE24, Black, X model
36) Jeddie, black, x model (Leco Prestige)
37) huskyboy, white, x model, (Prime Motor)
38) Cool88, White, X model (AutoVista)
39) Rationalexuberance, Green Hybrid Z model (Autolink)
40) Yongz, White, X model (Hup Long)
41) wywy_lim, Maroon, X model ( AutoVista
42) snoopy7885 Black, S model
43) turboless, blue, S model
44) andyngps, white, X model (Auto Selection)
45) Oxycover, White, X Model (Hup Long)
46) limejuice, Blue, G Model, (Hup Long)
Booked:
01) Mitlancer71, Silver, X model, awaiting to secure COE (5 more bids to go)
02) Alex, Blue, X model
03) Mooscenic, Black, X model
04) Fgn, Blue, X model (Nov).
05) Tak, White, X model, Mar2015 (Autolink)
06) Pat62, Maroon, X model. Feb 15 (Autolink)
07) Kenneth, Silver, X model. Early Jan 2015
08) chanlccs, Silver, X model. Mid Jan 2015 (JDM)
09) SY70. X model
10) birdylai, Silver, X model, Mid Feb2015
11) playing, White, X model
12) XDD33, Blue, X model
13) archcherub, White, X model, Jan 2015 shipment (Hup Long)
14) samwng, Maroon, X model, Mid Feb'15 (Autolink)
15) Dogbaby_25, White, X model (Prime)
16) Zippu, Green (?), Z Model, Jan 2015 (Exodus)
17) Winup22 (??) � �
18) Mervynwn, Silver X model
19) TimothyJ, White, X Model, Feb 2015 (Vincar)
20) jaytan, White, X Model
21) Eugene, Black, X Model, collection b4 CNY ( Cartimes)
22) Mp3skater, Blue, S Model, Jan Booked (Autolink) Collection March 2015
23) Shortie, Blue, X Model, Jan booked (Hup Long) Collection March 2015
24) Angrynor, Pearl White, X Model (Leco Prestige) Collection no later than 31 March 2015
25)william-pearl white x model(prime) b4 cny..
26) Csoyzx, Pearl White X Model (Cartimes) Earliest before CNY.. Latest before Feb
27) smeagol, Black, X model (Leco Prestige) collection by mid-april
28) v1peR, White, X model (Autolink) collection by End-May�
Did you check when was the car sent for inspection? Sounds like the car was not even in port yet when you bought. But again I may be wrong. Hope for the best for you bro. Weird. I booked mine in Dec. Yesterday secured coe. SE called me automatically and said next week collection. Seats were done up even before my coe was secure and inspection done up in early Jan.
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Seems that you are right, Car definitely not in Singapore Port as given on purchase.
2nd Jan to Vicom and 27th Jan to Vitas. Documentation within LTA.
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Your PI the right w to shorten time by doing Seat in advance, Great productivity!
kah motor has gotten the specs.
seems like it's a lower compression ratio than the vezel.
but the suspension abaorber is gas pressurized type.
is it the same as vezel?
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Seems that you are right, Car definitely not in Singapore Port as given on purchase.
2nd Jan to Vicom and 27th Jan to Vitas. Documentation within LTA.
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Your PI the right w to shorten time by doing Seat in advance, Great productivity!
bro, hoped u get your ride soon man.
Yes confirmed.
kah motor has gotten the specs.
seems like it's a lower compression ratio than the vezel.
but the suspension abaorber is gas pressurized type.
is it the same as vezel?
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wah..dats gona be interesting for the gas suspension.. I wonder if it wud experience more body roll. Hmm..lower compression ratio means not new earth dreams engine?
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Randy, where you got your info from?
Thot ceratec only for higher mileage engine? New engine literally no wear ceramic coating only coats worn n rough surface.
LM for me. I've tried xrev b4. It like any other eo. Now on castrol edge titanium 5w30 w ceratec. Smooth feel.
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i think for old engines will have significant feel, my ex-ex-subaru Legacy benefitted thoroughly!
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saw that it'll adhere to metal parts regardless, just like ester technology
Edited by Rationalexuberance, 05 February 2015 - 01:10 PM.
Breaking news!!!
Leaks from Kah Motor HRV. Probably launching this weekend.
Looks like the japs are keeping the best for their JDMs again. It's a SOHC 1.5 engine with lesser engine output. Now i felt happier getting the JDM model.
Looks like the japs are keeping the best for their JDMs again. It's a SOHC 1.5 engine with lesser engine output. Now i felt happier getting the JDM model.
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Sometimes the specs is�determined by AD, maybe they cut cost to fit into Cat A.
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Cannot believe it and very sad. it goes so low.
Yet to collect my�Vezel and still waiting hopefully bf CNY?? Give up calling SE
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Booked in Oct 2014, got COE 65889 and�body�calculated�is 55.6K for X model !!!
Actual OMV unknown but around 19K. CEV committed as 10K.
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With�the secured�COE, can I buy from another PI?
Can forgo 5K deposit and still may save $$.
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dun do anything rash bro..double check what you can do, list down options then slowly ask your way.
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then again 55.6k for X model is near Hybrid price. Did you get a good free gift package?
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Car is at the final page of registration, SE said awaiting VITAS.
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Vicom and Vitas belong to LTA.
Time loss in waiting and also COE getting lower, Can pass the cost to LTA?
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Checked and in my Name.
Thanks Hamburger
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u only paid 5k so far in deposit? then break contract you earn 10k on COE! nett earn 5k. hehe..but pls check thoroughly, dun rush. if car coming just enjoy bah
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wah..dats gona be interesting for the gas suspension.. I wonder if it wud experience more body roll. Hmm..lower compression ratio means not new earth dreams engine?
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Randy, where you got your info from?
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i think for old engines will have significant feel, my ex-ex-subaru Legacy benefitted thoroughly!
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saw that it'll adhere to metal parts regardless, just like ester technology
Hi bro i got it from kah motor itself.
Breaking news!!!
Leaks from Kah Motor HRV. Probably launching this weekend.
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looks the same..lower horse only
All 3 models come with halogen headlight only.....
Nothing mentioned about CBTA or interior. And I see handbrake, thats probably a mistake.
All HRV and Vezel are electronic brake mah.....
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And the price is more than $10k difference.......
Edited by Advancer, 05 February 2015 - 01:38 PM.
still dont understand how the CEV rebate works? any bros can explain more on this? the rebate is to?
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Hi bro. You might wish to check out SgGarage Edwin. You can find Edwin in FB. I have use him to install my floor light. Friendly guy and reasonable cost. On the day running lights, if it doesn't come (imported) with�the car,�then all external installed lights are not approved. Any lights installed inside the car are okay.
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Having said that, I also wanted to install the Honda logo with LED at rear but�was told not approved. Installed at your own risk. Normally LTA do not inspect/spot check on the road, only during car inspection. I am thinking of adding 1 extra on/off switch to off the lights during vicom�inspection. In my previous ride, I installed�extra night LED with on/off switch. During vicom inspection, I off the LED and put black tape to cover over the LED lights .... dun quote me if anyone get caught (touch wood)
On/Off switch is most advisable option. My ex-ride also installed couple of LED on the exterior which I OFF during VICOM Inspection. PASSED, cos it didn't affect the original headlight brightness.
But my DIY static tint-film (cheapo type) on the window was asked to remove on the spot..
still dont understand how the CEV rebate works? any bros can explain more on this? the rebate is to?
Hi Bro, 1stly OMV will be determined by LTA from what was declared by dealer.
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From OMV, ARF can be determined. If it's below 20k, ARF = OMV. �For X model Vezel, so far havent seen any with OMV >20k
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CEV rebate will be applied onto ARF. Hence if ARF is $19500. CEV rebate of $10,000 applied means ARF payable to LTA is 9500.
All 3 models come with halogen headlight only.....
Nothing mentioned about CBTA or interior. And I see handbrake, thats probably a mistake.
All HRV and Vezel are electronic brake mah.....
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And the price is more than $10k difference.......
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This is quite disappointing as i was actually looking forward to see the HRV from Kah Motor. Looks like they have not changed their usual policy of stripping cars to bare specs for sale in SG market. I remember the Civic 1.8 which i bought from them in 2006, doesn't even come with boot cover, can see all the ugly wires lol
Looks like the japs are keeping the best for their JDMs again. It's a SOHC 1.5 engine with lesser engine output. Now i felt happier getting the JDM model.
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Bro and Sis who are thinking of test driving the HRV with KM should be aware that the experience may not be the same as the one you get from the JDM one. Anyway, have fun and evaluate carefully.
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Bro and Sis who are thinking of test driving the HRV with KM should be aware that the experience may not be the same as the one you get from the JDM one. Anyway, have fun and evaluate carefully.
I wanna test drive
I wanna drive my car there and test drive the HRV ;)
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Hi bro. You might wish to check out SgGarage Edwin. You can find Edwin in FB. I have use him to install my floor light. Friendly guy and reasonable cost. On the day running lights, if it doesn't come (imported) with�the car,�then all external installed lights are not approved. Any lights installed inside the car are okay.
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Having said that, I also wanted to install the Honda logo with LED at rear but�was told not approved. Installed at your own risk. Normally LTA do not inspect/spot check on the road, only during car inspection. I am thinking of adding 1 extra on/off switch to off the lights during vicom�inspection. In my previous ride, I installed�extra night LED with on/off switch. During vicom inspection, I off the LED and put black tape to cover over the LED lights .... dun quote me if anyone get caught (touch wood)
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Noted will keep his name in mind when I buy my accessories. Your floor light is the constantly on kind? Or is there a switch to control it? For the day lights ya I'll KIV, its about 80sgd before shipping, and if install liao cannot pass LTA inspection also money wasted.
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Another accessory I was considering is the side step. It looks nice, but I don't think the Vezel is that high enough that especially passengers in the back seat need to step on it to get on/off the car? haha
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Hi Bro, 1stly OMV will be determined by LTA from what was declared by dealer.
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From OMV, ARF can be determined. If it's below 20k, ARF = OMV. �For X model Vezel, so far havent seen any with OMV >20k
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CEV rebate will be applied onto ARF. Hence if ARF is $19500. CEV rebate of $10,000 applied means ARF payable to LTA is 9500.
�So final numbers may look like this:�OMV = 19500ARF = 9500 (after CEV rebate of 10000)�there's also excise duty, registration fee, gst etc which adds on to the total cost of the vehicle to the dealer.��
base on this, the parf is only around 4.5-5k by end od 10 years right.. thank u for the explianaiton bro
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Bro and Sis who are thinking of test driving the HRV with KM should be aware that the experience may not be the same as the one you get from the JDM one. Anyway, have fun and evaluate carefully.
So you think the HRV will feel better or Vezel feel better?
I should think the vezel is a better ride (I may be wrong).
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Sometimes the specs is�determined by AD, maybe they cut cost to fit into Cat A.if�
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What it means is that Kah Motor will just end up pushing away more potential customers to the PIs for Vezel if they bring in the HRV variants which are likely to be priced more expensively but with a lower spec.
Based on the comparison so far between HRV and Vezel, i cannot apprehend why will people still choose HRV over Vezel. Just bcos it is from AD? I am assuming the HRV should be more exp than Vezel since it is from AD, might be wrong but i doubt.
Yes HRV is $13k more (even after cash discount). I have the price list with me.Based on the comparison so far between HRV and Vezel, i cannot apprehend why will people still choose HRV over Vezel. Just bcos it is from AD? I am assuming the HRV should be more exp than Vezel since it is from AD, might be wrong but i doubt.
Based on the comparison so far between HRV and Vezel, i cannot apprehend why will people still choose HRV over Vezel. Just bcos it is from AD? I am assuming the HRV should be more exp than Vezel since it is from AD, might be wrong but i doubt.
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The 2 words 'Kah Motor' is not worth ~13k (price difference)
Yes HRV is $13k more (even after cash discount). I have the price list with me.
Hi can u post the price list . Thanks
Yes HRV is $13k more (even after cash discount). I have the price list with me.
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That means to say KM is selling the HRV at around $125-130k depending on the different models. For that amount you could probably already buy the Hybrid Z from PI.�
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But being the AD, I still foresee people who prefer going the safe route to spend the additional money for the security tagged to KM's reputation. To each his/her own I guess. Although at this price range I don't think the HRV will compete very well with the Civic or Mobilio which KM also sells. It will be interesting to see customers who only buy from ADs what choice they will make between a KM HRV, or a TC QQ 1.2. Haha�
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That means to say KM is selling the HRV at around $125-130k depending on the different models. For that amount you could probably already buy the Hybrid Z from PI.�
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But being the AD, I still foresee people who prefer going the safe route to spend the additional money for the security tagged to KM's reputation. To each his/her own I guess. Although at this price range I don't think the HRV will compete very well with the Civic or Mobilio which KM also sells. It will be interesting to see customers who only buy from ADs what choice they will make between a KM HRV, or a TC QQ 1.2. Haha�
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If its me la, KM HRV or TC QQ1.2,
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I go for QQ1.2. Looks silly to drive something which is 13k more expensive than its twin bro (Vezel) on the road. Furthermore, very likely with lower spec.With that in mind, i rather choose another CUV.
13k for the peace of mind for 3 years with AD...
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I rather take the chance with PI and since it is Honda, i doubt any major hiccups will occur during the Warranty period.
Understand from the SE that�HRV shipment will be�in Jun-Jul. Price wise for basic model at $125k ... With COE going downtrend (hopefully), it may be cheaper ...
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Those who book the Mobilio during the carshow and prelaunch was paying the hefty price of high COE ...�So maybe there is no hurry to book during prelaunch.
Anything major happens..by right manufacture warranty is 3 yrs. Thereafter settle ourselves still can haggle price. Go back AD workshop, everything min 40pct more exp. Buy ourselves from stockists if possible n get workshop to do e repair.prepair.pay for labour13k for the peace of mind for 3 years with AD...
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I rather take the chance with PI and since it is Honda, i doubt any major hiccups will occur during the Warranty period.
Btw heard from a bro that paint is warrantied by KM. Those still having cars with warranty almost ending,go get a full respray!! Check warranty booklet n verify.
For the curious ones. Note that price does not include cash discount.
Wah lau eh
Edited by Rationalexuberance, 05 February 2015 - 04:42 PM.
So you think the HRV will feel better or Vezel feel better?
I should think the vezel is a better ride (I may be wrong).
think of us might chose AD for a piece of mind reason ever though the feel might lose to Vezel.
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still have to see the HRV in order to compare. is 100 over k items.. but this is just me
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If its me la, KM HRV or TC QQ1.2,
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I go for QQ1.2. Looks silly to drive something which is 13k more expensive than its twin bro (Vezel) on the road. Furthermore, very likely with lower spec.With that in mind, i rather choose another CUV.
QQ1.2 $121800. Latest update by SE. Anyone knows the OMV?
think of us might chose AD for a piece of mind reason ever though the feel might lose to Vezel.
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still have to see the HRV in order to compare. is 100 over k items.. but this is just me
If made in thailand and OMV is lower. With higher price. Means the piece of mind may cost me $20k. Also means my loan breakeven is longer than it shud be due to lower paper value. $20k can change almost all vital parts of the vezel 1.5times.
Say we add interest at 2pct for 5 yrs to 20k ..total payable is 22k. Huat ah!
If made in thailand and OMV is lower. With higher price. Means the piece of mind may cost me $20k. Also means my loan breakeven is longer than it shud be due to lower paper value. $20k can change almost all vital parts of the vezel 1.5times.
Say we add interest at 2pct for 5 yrs to 20k ..total payable is 22k. Huat ah!
ya.. if that is 130k price tag.. maybe going PI is a better choice.. got to go down Kah to see see the car/price then decide lol.
think of us might chose AD for a piece of mind reason ever though the feel might lose to Vezel.
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still have to see the HRV in order to compare. is 100 over k items.. but this is just me
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Anyone got entertain the thought of self importing Vezel direct from Japan?
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With the cost savings arising from cutting the middleman, one could even fly to Japan to place the order direct with the Japanese dealer face to face.�
Our "good" neighbor also launching the HR-V, and because they stay across the bridge, they get all the goodies (power) at a much cheaper price as compared to here:
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As with its Jazz sibling, the HR-V is available in three variants � RM99,800 Grade S, RM108,800 Grade E and range-topping RM118,800 Grade V, all prices being on-the-road with insurance, inclusive of a five-year unlimited-mileage warranty as well as six times free service up to 100,000 km.
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Under the bonnet, all models get the Civic�s 1.8 litre SOHC i-VTEC four-pot, making 142 PS at 6,500 rpm and 172 Nm at 4,300 rpm. Sending the power to the front wheels is G-Design Shift CVT � the transmission uses a torque converter for better response off the line, endowing the HR-V with step-off acceleration that is said to be quicker�than the 2.0 litre CR-V. A fuel-saving ECON Mode also comes as standard.
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In terms of equipment, all�HR-Vs come equipped with the same 16-inch wheels, auto headlights, LED tail lights, front and rear fog lights and a shark fin antenna. E variants get side mirror-mounted indicators, while only the top-spec V receives twin-projector LED headlights and chrome door handles.
Inside, the�mid-range E adds�keyless entry, push-button start, steering wheel audio controls and�touch-panel single-zone automatic air-conditioning, while the V tacks on cruise control, variable interval adjustment for the intermittent front wipers, semi-leather upholstery that replaces full fabric on the other two models, leather-lined door cards, a leather-wrapped steering wheel and gear knob as well as�illuminated vanity mirrors.
Different head units for all three variants, too � a standard double-DIN radio and CD player for Grade S, a five-inch touchscreen Monitor Audio infotainment system for Grade E and a seven-inch touchscreen Display Audio infotainment system with voice control, HDMI connectivity and a multi-angle (wide, normal and top)�rear-view camera for Grade V.
Read more: http://paultan.org/2.../#ixzz3QrLSsXPB
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ya.. if that is 130k price tag.. maybe going PI is a better choice.. got to go down Kah to see see the car/price then decide lol.
I'm curious to go test too..but a few SE alredy noe me haa
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Anyone got entertain the thought of self importing Vezel direct from Japan?
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With the cost savings arising from cutting the middleman, one could even fly to Japan to place the order direct with the Japanese dealer face to face.�
Yes! Apparently there are importers that PIs buy e rides from. All inspection, customs etc etc all cleared b4 sending to showroom where PI will receive.
Main obstacle importing own cars is need upfront cash n bidding of COE. Which if "ah beng can do,why not us?" Thats wat my dad's dren said to me.
I ever thought of removing the VEZEL word at the rear of our car and replace it with HR-V
Now i think i will stick with VEZEL�
I'm curious to go test too..but a few SE alredy noe me haa
The test car not available yet. Was told likely in Jun ... BTW, it is Thai-made.
Yes! Apparently there are importers that PIs buy e rides from. All inspection, customs etc etc all cleared b4 sending to showroom where PI will receive.
Main obstacle importing own cars is need upfront cash n bidding of COE. Which if "ah beng can do,why not us?" Thats wat my dad's dren said to me.
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Oh, that is new to me
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From what i see, there are two main obstacles�
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1) Upfront Cash
2) finding a storage space for the self import car while getting the car ready to be road worthy
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Noted will keep his name in mind when I buy my accessories. Your floor light is the constantly on kind? Or is there a switch to control it? For the day lights ya I'll KIV, its about 80sgd before shipping, and if install liao cannot pass LTA inspection also money wasted.
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Another accessory I was considering is the side step. It looks nice, but I don't think the Vezel is that high enough that especially passengers in the back seat need to step on it to get on/off the car? haha
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The floor lights are connected to the door light and door light switch, located at front "ceiling". So whenever i open the door the floor light turns on and off when closed. I can also manually on/off the lights at the door light switch.
We maybe disappointed on the Vezel low end once you test drive the KM HR-V. SOHC engine deliver better low end but weak in high end. But I still love DOHC Vezel :-)
KM got test drive meh? tot it come in Q3-2015
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Can the experts/Gurus summarise and enlighten the rest of us on the pros and cons of the HRV (offered by KM) vs Vezel (by PI)?
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Thank you very much!
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jaytan, i think my situation is sadder. Booked my Hybrid-z in October 2014 and was told car will arrive in Jan 2015. Said COE already gotten but I have no proof, or dont know how to check.
Everytime i see other bros/sis gotten their cars and i feel even sadder (but dont get me wrong, am happy that they get their cars and happy theres more vezels on the road).
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I've put down $20k for COE and deposit. Now i feel cheated that I dont get the lower COE and any CEVS rebates, and my freebies which i thought was�good, now seems like standard offerings from the many posts i read others got from their PIs. I should have taken the steps that bro�Rationalexuberance made and would be happy with my very own green monster :(
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I read this forum daily, all 240++ pages, for tips, lobang�and feedback. Very thankfull to those bros/sis willing to share their experience and lobangs. Happy for you all :)
Bro i feel for u. Keep on pushing and hounding them for more service or compensate free gift or whatever.
But eventually, trust me! You will be super rewarded by Green Monster!!
is this the longest thread of all car makes / models?
jaytan, on 05 Feb 2015 - 12:09 PM, said:jaytan, on 05 Feb 2015 - 12:09 PM, said:jaytan, on 05 Feb 2015 - 12:09 PM, said:�
Cannot believe it and very sad. it goes so low.
Yet to collect my�Vezel and still waiting hopefully bf CNY?? Give up calling SE
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Booked in Oct 2014, got COE 65889 and�body�calculated�is 55.6K for X model !!!
Actual OMV unknown but around 19K. CEV committed as 10K.
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With�the secured�COE, can I buy from another PI?
Can forgo 5K deposit and still may save $$.
Yes, if the secured COE is under your name. It is NOT transferable and has a validity of 6 months for cat a & b.
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Edited by trajet2b, 05 February 2015 - 10:04 PM.
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I find the engine is a bit noisy as well compare to my old sylphy. How did your sound proofing perform? Any noticeable drop in noise?
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However the power in vezel is just fantastic. It will just pick u and gooo.....
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Much better especially the exchaust sound which is more muffled.. i used noiseblock sheets. The guys said sound travel up the softest metal and vibrate through the doors so we tend to hear it more and the door is the 1st part to use sound proofing then see how we like it as noise sensitivity is personal.
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Waiting for Malaysia to start selling HRV so can check how much if the boot cover.�
trajet2b thanks for the info. Do you know what is the difference between Bid Amount and Quota Premium?
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I now know that i at least my COE is secured :)
on the assumption that the HRV and the Vezel have about the same OMV, from the pricelist, the HRV will only have $5000 CEVS rebate.
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That would mean the final PARF on the HRV be marginally higher by $2K to $3K.
Zippu, on 05 Feb 2015 - 10:16 PM, said:Zippu, on 05 Feb 2015 - 10:16 PM, said:trajet2b thanks for the info. Do you know what is the difference between Bid Amount and Quota Premium?
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I now know that i at least my COE is secured :)
Bid Amount is the amount your PI put in for you.
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Quota Premium is the�payable amount for COE for that particular bid round�.
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Bid amount will always be higher than the COE Quota Premium.
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My friend booked a hybrid Z with Exodus in Dec. She just got her ride last week.
They use cat e. For cat e it will be under company name.
Edited by trajet2b, 05 February 2015 - 10:26 PM.
on the assumption that the HRV and the Vezel have about the same OMV, from the pricelist, the HRV will only have $5000 CEVS rebate.
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That would mean the final PARF on the HRV be marginally higher by $2K to $3K.
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That also means that the engine in the Kah Motor's HRV pales in comparison to the one in the Vezel by a far bit. SOHC is like the Kia Picanto 1.1L etc... Kia Rio...�
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MIJ Vezel vs MIT HRV 1.5 (Kah Motor Spec)
Origin: Japanese vs Thai
Engine Type: 1.5L DOHC vs 1.5L SOHC
Power: 96kw 131ps vs 88kw 120ps
Exterior Lighting: LED Lamps (Daytime Running Light) vs Halogen Lamps�
Carbon Emission: 113g/km vs 155g/km (That's why it only receives $5K CEVS rebate, one more point to note is, this engine is of a lower spec than that of the Jazz 1.5 even)
"Shark-Fin Antenna": Body Colour vs Matt Black�
Park Brake: Electric Park Brake, Brake Hold vs Hand Brake.
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agar agar like this...�
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Even if I'm not a dealer selling the Vezel, but a consumer. The specs difference for engine and the headlight more than enough to turn me off. Different engine also means fuel efficiency will definitely be different. You won't experience the fuel frugality that the Vezel owners here have experienced..
kingfisher1688, on 05 Feb 2015 - 5:03 PM, said:kingfisher1688, on 05 Feb 2015 - 5:03 PM, said:�
Anyone got entertain the thought of self importing Vezel direct from Japan?
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With the cost savings arising from cutting the middleman, one could even fly to Japan to place the order direct with the Japanese dealer face to face.�
Kingfisher forget it.
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1. You will never get the bulk discounted pricing�from Japan dealer.
2. Same goes with shipment and handling.
3. Some how our PI and Japan exporter�'play' with the invoice �to Customs hence the OMV of almost $20k
4. Misc, storage, handling�etc .........cost will also be high.
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With all the CEV rebate, you will end up about $5K. It is not worth it. You can never beat our PIs because of their regular imports..
Edited by trajet2b, 05 February 2015 - 10:40 PM.
Bid Amount is the amount your PI put in for you.
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Quota Premium is the�payable amount for COE for that particular bid round�.
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Bid amount will always be higher than the COE Quota Premium.
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My friend booked a hybrid Z with Exodus in Dec. She just got her ride last week.
They use cat e. For cat e it will be under company name.
Thanks trajet2b !�
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wow, your friend must have struck lottery!
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Now i wonder if they somehow "forgot" about my booking or maybe your friend got the unit that's in their showroom.
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Noted will keep his name in mind when I buy my accessories. Your floor light is the constantly on kind? Or is there a switch to control it? For the day lights ya I'll KIV, its about 80sgd before shipping, and if install liao cannot pass LTA inspection also money wasted.
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Another accessory I was considering is the side step. It looks nice, but I don't think the Vezel is that high enough that especially passengers in the back seat need to step on it to get on/off the car? haha
Personally, it is more for the look.. But if you have younger kids or elderly, that could become an essential. Just make sure it's the practical bolt-on type & not the stick-on..
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