mycarforum: Private property prices... Up or Down? part 17

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no rolex, nor cigar...bopakai

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waa liew nice name �Ng Chin Chin�

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no rolex, nor cigar...bopakai

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hahha g0v say smoking is bad for you� :serious-business:

hahha g0v say smoking is bad for you�

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:whisper: �you don't smoke cigar hor?? :=B:

http://www.propertyg...ing-7825-homes-

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meanwhile garmen doesnt giva F if theres oversupply or not :)

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they are just planning ahead of the 6.9M ....... ( I think they are trolling with the people using the number 69 )

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Truly ... no . Hahaha the smoke is too thick for me.�

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trade US stocks so expert already
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can earn so much and get many propositions from chiobu
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why go into property and be rookie?
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it's about time you shown up
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i can retire from disturbing T2 liao
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???????????????I am generally a fun & loving person....judging from the love songs I posted. Although the little devil in me occasionally comes out to play.... but even then, I dare not disturb the Almighty.

What a bunch of coconuts, I wonder when he flew them down to the seminar did they even bother checking out the seaweed farm or just go KTV.

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What a bunch of coconuts, I wonder when he flew them down to the seminar did they even bother checking out the seaweed farm or just go KTV.
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Beg to differ Bro Mercury. Lots of deals are concluded in the KTVs....when all parties were in a jolly good mood.

You are absolutely correct, I beg your pardon on this grave error� [nod]

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Beg to differ Bro Mercury. Lots of deals are concluded in the KTVs....when all parties were in a jolly good mood.

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What a bunch of coconuts, I wonder when he flew them down to the seminar did they even bother checking out the seaweed farm or just go KTV.

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Edited by Wt_know, 11 June 2015 - 10:25 PM.

GLS sales resuming.. Another 17000 homes on plan .. Logically price should softened... But this is Singapore... Election round corners... Any body guess...:-)

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wow

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i used to wonder why so many middle class singaporeans are willing to buy a JB or cambodia condo after just attending a 2 hour seminar

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now i realize, that singaporeans have such a strong desire to invest their money in low risk yet super high returns schemes

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i used to wonder why so many middle class singaporeans are willing to buy a JB or cambodia condo after just attending a 2 hour seminar
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now i realize, that singaporeans have such a strong desire to invest their money in low risk yet super high returns schemes

Honestly, can you make money when our SGD is stronger than these regional currencies?
My feel has always been that even if you make capital gains on your property, they could possibly be eroded with the depreciation of the regional currency vs SGD as can be seen in the MYR recently!!

No overseas property for me as I kiasu haha!!

Honestly, can you make money when our SGD is stronger than these regional currencies?
My feel has always been that even if you make capital gains on your property, they could possibly be eroded with the depreciation of the regional currency vs SGD as can be seen in the MYR recently!!

No overseas property for me as I kiasu haha!!

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when rich become richer coz theyre smarter n work harder, the lazy minions complain unfair, i say f**K them if they dont want to work hard or b smart. these goons go into MLMs then expect same protection as accredited investments? xiao

Edited by Duckduck, 12 June 2015 - 10:24 AM.

Usually when someone, be it a stranger or an acquaintant, approaches you out of the blue to say he or she got money making lobang and would like to share fortune with you, likelihood is it will end up the exact opposite.� [thumbsdown]

gurus, for LH props, wat happens at the tenure end? if garmen take back will they give u another place to stay like HDB SERS?

gurus, for LH props, wat happens at the tenure end? if garmen take back will they give u another place to stay like HDB SERS?

Interestingly, most buyers had mistakenly assumed our government will compensate the home owners with a replacement flat or through some cash payout at the end of the lease.

That is a wrong perception.

There is no residual value after the lease runs out.

Our government is not obligated to pay anyone anything after the lease expires.

If our government so decides to compensate these owners, it is really their prerogative and it is not an obligation on their part.

The lease system works somewhat like a Tenancy Agreement.

After the Tenancy Agreement ends, other than returning the security deposit back to the tenant, the Landlord is not obligated to pay or incentivise the tenants to move out.

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Only in some cases where�the government takes back the land before the lease is expired will there be compensation.

gurus, for LH props, wat happens at the tenure end? if garmen take back will they give u another place to stay like HDB SERS?

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So far, property price only 1 direction over the long term. Up.

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Likely to enbloc with buyer factoring the lease topup to 99yrs when offering.

I am not sure about government but for private leases the owner of the land has a right to ask for the land to be returned in original state, ie leaseholders have to pay for the demolishing of the building and restoration. So it would intererestng to see what happens to leaseholder of the shore condo have to do to make good with FEO when the lease runs out

gurus, for LH props, wat happens at the tenure end? if garmen take back will they give u another place to stay like HDB SERS?

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So far, property price only 1 direction over the long term. Up.

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Likely to enbloc with buyer factoring the lease topup to 99yrs when offering.

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yes, however, if left with one year, i think the enbloc value is almost negligible

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that, or the govt will take the land back and package as GLS again

Bayshore is one of those left 50+ years lease left..

TOP in 1986, another 70 years to go.�

Any private residential developments have under 60 years of lease left?�

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Bayshore is one of those left 50+ years lease left..

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Here's solid proof that URA is scaling back on new home units-
http://sbr.com.sg/re...-new-home-units

Singapore unveils 17 sites up for grabs in 2H15-
http://sbr.com.sg/re...s-grabs-in-2h15

Resale volume surged 33.1% as prices stayed flat in May 2015-
http://sbr.com.sg/re...lat-in-may-2015

Mass-market home prices expected to hit bottom in mid-2016-
http://sbr.com.sg/re...tom-in-mid-2016

Here's solid proof that URA is scaling back on new home units-
http://sbr.com.sg/re...-new-home-units

Singapore unveils 17 sites up for grabs in 2H15-
http://sbr.com.sg/re...s-grabs-in-2h15

Resale volume surged 33.1% as prices stayed flat in May 2015-
http://sbr.com.sg/re...lat-in-may-2015

Mass-market home prices expected to hit bottom in mid-2016-
http://sbr.com.sg/re...tom-in-mid-2016

According to the report you posted, Barclays expext mass market homes to drop ANOTHER 10% before hitting a bottom in May 2016......

So des ne.....

Huat ah!

From the same report

Pressure on rents
Demand side low
Expat budgets low
Vacancy of units to increase again.

So des ne......

Huat ah
Buy ah! Chiong ah!
Mai tu liao!
Huat ah!

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yes, however, if left with one year, i think the enbloc value is almost negligible
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that, or the govt will take the land back and package as GLS again

Who in their right mind will allow the lease to run down to 1 year???

Heard that the mcst usually dun wan tenure to fall below 60yrs as cannot take loan. Hence around 30+ years or so, agm called to buy lease extension. Based on amount paid to gov, will b divided accordingly among the sp.

Is this tru? If so, normally how many years will mcst typically buy and how much approximately paid by each sp? Can take bank loan?

http://www.aboutsing...up-condo-lease/

Residents of Arcadia have been trying to top up their lease since 2011. Even with 100% agreement from residents, SLA has not approved so far. TOP in 1983, 67 years left

Heard that the mcst usually dun wan tenure to fall below 60yrs as cannot take loan. Hence around 30+ years or so, agm called to buy lease extension. Based on amount paid to gov, will b divided accordingly among the sp.

Is this tru? If so, normally how many years will mcst typically buy and how much approximately paid by each sp? Can take bank loan?

If succeed, they will set precedent....that means no condo has succeeded. But looking at the size of land vs number of units n location,... The land has great potential...

I heard govt has some plans around the area, I believe they are looking to take back all the land back from the condo's residing inside so I doubt the extension would happen.

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Ps the Condo has a nice pub below if anyone is looking for a quiet drink cause hardly anyone goes there� [laugh]

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Residents of Arcadia have been trying to top up their lease since 2011. Even with 100% agreement from residents, SLA has not approved so far. TOP in 1983, 67 years left

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Just touch down.

Buy this one ... colleague told me this good buy hahha

Just touch down.

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Just touch down.

Buy this one ... colleague told me this good buy hahha20150615_132224.jpg

Where u go huh.....

http://www.aboutsing...up-condo-lease/

Residents of Arcadia have been trying to top up their lease since 2011. Even with 100% agreement from residents, SLA has not approved so far. TOP in 1983, 67 years left

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if they allow such private lease topups instead of developers doing it after enbloc, then the 99yr LH concept is flawed mah coz then its virtually FH

Who in their right mind will allow the lease to run down to 1 year???

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some of the landed LH at lorong 3 geylang have a few yrs tenure left... they arent HDB so theyll be taken back by garmen...�

Built in 1960, the mix of residential homes and foreign worker quarters at Geylang Lorong 3 only has five years left on its lease.

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some of the landed LH at lorong 3 geylang have a few yrs tenure left... they arent HDB so theyll be taken back by garmen...�

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Anecdotes from my end. Two expat�friends have recently moved out of their River Valley rental�apartments because they found nicer/bigger units elsewhere.

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One moved to an apartment on Sentosa (paying less than his RV unit) and another one moved to a recently TOP townhouse at West Coast (for same price as the RV unit).

Built in 1960, the mix of residential homes and foreign worker quarters at Geylang Lorong 3 only has five years left on its lease.

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moral of story is better sell your LH condo before its too late! looks like no SERS like compensation in such cases!

haha ... where is this tower anyway?

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haha ... where is this tower anyway?

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Where u go huh.....

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If only your head can turn this way ....... I wont be able to tell the difference heeeeeeee

haha ... where is this tower anyway?

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heard was abt USD 4K per sq ft.......�

This heading is not interesting. What I am hoping to see is "Prices of new private home fall".

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down 45% .... hoohooo

but propex ceo said it's mainly due to few launches nia ... bo tai ji ...

does that mean when there are many launches demand will come back ... lol

Edited by Wt_know, 16 June 2015 - 04:57 PM.

This heading is not interesting. What I am hoping to see is "Prices of new private home fall".
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Yes, will take note, Sir!
Yes Sir

Spore one of world's weakest housing markets

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Singapore has emerged as one of the worlds five weakest housing markets, revealed the latest survey from Global Property Guide.

Home prices in the city-state fell 3.45 percent during the year to Q1 2015, its sixth consecutive quarter of decline. Prices dipped 1.12 percent quarter-on-quarter during the previous quarter.

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This comes as both demand and supply fell across the country. In the first quarter of 2015, the number of private homes sold plunged 27 percent to 1,258 units, according to data from the Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA). The number of private homes launched also plummeted around 40 percent to 1,189 units in the period.

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The Ministry of Trade and Industry (MTI) stated that Singapores economy expanded by a modest 2.6 percent in Q1 2015 from the year before, up from the previous quarters 2.1 percent growth. The economy is expected to grow between two and four percent this year, after rising 2.9 percent in 2014.

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Aside from Singapore, the worlds other weakest housing markets include the UAE (Dubai), China (Beijing), Russia and the Ukraine (Kiev).

Meanwhile, Ireland has emerged as the fastest growing property market, with residential prices surging 17.57 percent during the year to end-Q1 2015. It was followed by Hong Kong, Estonia, Sweden and Israel.

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The Global Property Guide is a research house and website dedicated to residential property. It covers market trends in 101 countries.

Ho say.. HK cooling measure not enough..

Ho say.. HK cooling measure not enough..

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HK property cooling measure?

Maybe need to nuke half of China first or teleport half of them to another planet/ galaxy.

Private residential land supply trimmed sharply on back of looming flat glut-
http://sbr.com.sg/re...ack-looming-fla

Choosy developers turn their noses up at unappealing GLS residential sites-
http://sbr.com.sg/re...sidential-sites

Buyers flock back to old launches as new residential supply dwindles-
http://sbr.com.sg/re...supply-dwindles

Robust sales continue for market favourites Botanique at Bartley, North Park Residences-
http://sbr.com.sg/re...orth-park-resid

why not just slash the property price "minus" the porsche value ... ?

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property price fall is not an option?

Edited by Wt_know, 18 June 2015 - 08:43 AM.

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got free ride on that girl for a year also?... [:p]

why not just slash the property price "minus" the porsche value ... ?

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property price fall is not an option?

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cannot let the price fall,,.die die must hold... it will cause whole market spiral downward if one wrong move by just one developer...see who take the first step and poke at the bubble..... [laugh]

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got free ride on that girl for a year also?...

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cannot let the price fall,,.die die must hold... it will cause whole market spiral downward if one wrong move by just one developer...see who take the first step and poke at the bubble.....

Hehe....how I wish I can poke at the speech bubble in your avatar...

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Actually I've always thought Sentosa is a lousy place to live if you really want convenience.... Just driving out of there takes a good 15-20 minutes....

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sentosa condos was borne out of desperation by garmen to make $ out of GLS etc, it never had a proper neighbourhood plan, & considering most of the owners there arent citizens, i thk garmen wont ever bother improving that area.

Edited by Duckduck, 18 June 2015 - 11:07 AM.

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Actually I've always thought Sentosa is a lousy place to live if you really want convenience.... Just driving out of there takes a good 15-20 minutes....

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To stay there, residents must have money gushing out of their ears and too much time on their hand.

If they only have money gushing out of their ears but no time on their hands, they haven't arrived.

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Not I say one.

I overheard 2 young men having a discussion while having lunch at Dome a year back.

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To stay there, residents must have money gushing out of their ears and too much time on their hand.

If they only have money gushing out of their ears but no time on their hands, they haven't arrived.

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Not I say one.

I overheard 2 young men having a discussion while having lunch at Dome a year back.

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lol i consider myself arrived if i own majority stake in an SGX listed bluechip

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lol i consider myself arrived if i own majority stake in an SGX listed bluechip

I consider myself never arrived. I resigned myself to fate that i will never be rich? really.
But it doesnt take one to be rich to be happy so best to focus on being happy than being rich

I realise that as we age it is easier

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comes with that gal too?� :grin:

I consider myself never arrived. I resigned myself to fate that i will never be rich? really.
But it doesnt take one to be rich to be happy so best to focus on being happy than being rich

I realise that as we age it is easier

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Yeah i'll need to catch up with him and see how he's settled in. He doesn't drive here, so I'm sure he's relying on the shuttle buses/public transport/walking. He used to walk to work every morning from river valley to his office at AXA tower.

That is bloody far to walk in business shirt and pants. Totally drenched in perspiration when you arrive at the destination

I'm sure if that's what you wanted it can be arranged� [sly] the question is how many you want� [confused] and can you handle them all� [laugh]

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comes with that gal too?�

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Some office got shower facility.. wear casual and walk, bike in.. then shower and change.

why not just slash the property price "minus" the porsche value ... ?
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property price fall is not an option?

You mean Iskandar condo cost less than a Porsche? Iskandar investor quite jialat if that is the case.

Luxury home sales up 73% in May-
http://www.propertyg...es-up-73-in-may

Existing projects flourish amid limited new supply-
http://www.propertyg...ited-new-supply

Toa Payoh site draws 14 bids-
http://www.propertyg...-draws-14-bids-

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Actually I've always thought Sentosa is a lousy place to live if you really want convenience.... Just driving out of there takes a good 15-20 minutes....

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nonsense lah. �Ina nd out, 5 min nia. �Sometimes, you get out of the MSCP aldy 5 min.

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There is a resident gantry so no need to queue with the peasants...i mean others... [grin] �and we go in free. �

You mean Iskandar condo cost less than a Porsche? Iskandar investor quite jialat if that is the case.

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I rem some nuts keep raving about Iskandar............ �yeah, keep talking lah......

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I rem some nuts keep raving about Iskandar............ �yeah, keep talking lah......

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buy buy buy!!! hahahahah

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at least my Sentosa apt still hv hope....lol

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nonsense lah. �Ina nd out, 5 min nia. �Sometimes, you get out of the MSCP aldy 5 min.

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There is a resident gantry so no need to queue with the peasants...i mean others... �and we go in free. �

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5 mins? Hmm, seemed longer to me.

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Must be that stupid stretch of speed cameras that makes driving there such a pain.

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5 mins? Hmm, seemed longer to me.

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Must be that stupid stretch of speed cameras that makes driving there such a pain.

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aiyah 50-60 km/h still ok bah....can reach

That is bloody far to walk in business shirt and pants. Totally drenched in perspiration when you arrive at the destination

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He goes in early to the gym every morning at AXA tower, then showers and changes to his work clothes before heading up to his office. Evenings he usually works late or has meets up with people so he cabs it home.

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I really need to catch up with him and find out how his habits have changed now with his Sentosa lifestyle.

sentosa is in a bind. If they build more roads into the island, the highend feeling goes away, yet it has an infrastructure problem of being far away from everything.

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No medical center will open there coz not enuff pple n road too jam n garmen will never sell land there cheap, no school save for expensive private centers will open there

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its dead in the water IMO.

If u tell XMM u stay sentosa their panty sure drop one

If u tell XMM u stay sentosa their panty sure drop one

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haha then they suntan in their leopard preen biginis kena ogle by banglas

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If u tell XMM u stay sentosa their panty sure drop one

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Including Porker's?� [laugh]

In before T2 spread more fears.

Knn property goondu jui si property goondu

Bloody hell interest rate go up still say got extra saving.
Pwui !

Lying through the skin of their teeth, indespicable.

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Mai siao siao. Stupiak website going for listing leh...

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Property website where only agents can place ads.

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Once I found out that's how they roll, I deleted it from my list of sites to visit.

Why are Singaporeans still choosing a condo over an HDB flat-
https://sg.finance.y...-160000071.html

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Mai siao siao. Stupiak website going for listing leh...
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Property website where only agents can place ads.
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Once I found out that's how they roll, I deleted it from my list of sites to visit.

Hahah yes
The prices inside are so inflated.
Muayhahahahaha

Just my thoughts.... Sideways to slightly down. �My thoughts:

- MAS have been preparing us all for a possible interest raise rise. �It is possible.

- Stamp duty and other controls could be removed if the market really started to slide.

- Quantitative easing money from China has massively reduced. �Money is departing Asia.

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It is a buyers market. �I would avoid investment properties, but there are good opportunities for a owner occupier.

Just less 10-15% is the non-goondu price?

Just my thoughts.... Sideways to slightly down. �My thoughts:

- MAS have been preparing us all for a possible interest raise rise. �It is possible.

- Stamp duty and other controls could be removed if the market really started to slide.

- Quantitative easing money from China has massively reduced. �Money is departing Asia.

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It is a buyers market. �I would avoid investment properties, but there are good opportunities for a owner occupier.

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The change in stamp duty and removal of some cooling measures will be interesting.

Will it be before next GE or after?

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Just my thoughts.... Sideways to slightly down. �My thoughts:

- MAS have been preparing us all for a possible interest raise rise. �It is possible.

- Stamp duty and other controls could be removed if the market really started to slide.

- Quantitative easing money from China has massively reduced. �Money is departing Asia.

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It is a buyers market. �I would avoid investment properties, but there are good opportunities for a owner occupier.

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The change in stamp duty and removal of some cooling measures will be interesting.

Will it be before next GE or after?

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Slowly but surely.

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Market is indeed bear, after weakening for almost 2 years

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interest is all time low, with everyone expecting 20% discount

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no wonder showflats these days not so packed� [laugh]

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holy smoky ... buy buy buy ... huat ah!

Edited by Wt_know, 06 July 2015 - 09:45 AM.

So last week I didn't meet my friend who moved to Sentosa because I had to fly to Jakarta, but my colleague had dinner with him and apparently he loves it on Sentosa and says it's very convenient even though he doesn't own a car. I guess there's a decent shuttle service for residents.

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An old family friend is getting transferred back to Singapore and also decided to rent on Sentosa.

Edited by Myxilplix, 06 July 2015 - 11:35 AM.

Yes rentals there are lower than a comparable unit on the mainland. Surprisingly lower.

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So last week I didn't meet my friend who moved to Sentosa because I had to fly to Jakarta, but my colleague had dinner with him and apparently he loves it on Sentosa and says it's very convenient even though he doesn't own a car. I guess there's a decent shuttle service for residents.

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An old family friend is getting transferred back to Singapore and also decided to rent on Sentosa.

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waiting for global recession then makan SGX bluchip bonds at 15% yield ... equal or better trade than SG prop

Market is indeed bear, after weakening for almost 2 years

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interest is all time low, with everyone expecting 20% discount

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no wonder showflats these days not so packed�

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u wrong frequency

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here is talking about min $2000psf and above

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nobody is interested in slum living here

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Vacanza East, $12xx/psf, Freehold

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Sant Ritz, $12xx/psf, 99LH, next to MRT

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which project would you choose

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Freehold or 99LH next to MRT?

Edited by Wt_know, 06 July 2015 - 12:16 PM.

Vacanza East, $12xx/psf, Freehold

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Sant Ritz, $12xx/psf, 99LH, next to MRT

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which project would you choose

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Freehold or next to MRT but 99LH?

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MRT

Vacanza East, $12xx/psf, Freehold
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Sant Ritz, $12xx/psf, 99LH, next to MRT
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which project would you choose
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Freehold or 99LH next to MRT?

Depends on environment, next to MRT so what?
People got car (s) .
Next to MRT usually crowded and noisy. Yucks
It great i dont like those next to MRT while the masses do.
Suits me very well, muayhahahahahahah

Depends on environment, next to MRT so what?
People got car (s) .
Next to MRT usually crowded and noisy. Yucks
It great i dont like those next to MRT while the masses do.
Suits me very well, muayhahahahahahah

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u must love getting stuck in traffic. having an alternate to driving is always a plus for the whole family coz not everyone can or will drive.

Vacanza East, $12xx/psf, Freehold

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Sant Ritz, $12xx/psf, 99LH, next to MRT

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which project would you choose

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Freehold or 99LH next to MRT?

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Both also wouldn't fit my preferences if I was in the market for a place.

agree. now i don't take mrt. so, it's ok.

just that i feel next to mrt is easy to sell or tenant out

also i might not drive in the future should i choose to, so next to mrt would be perfect

next to mrt is usually crowded and noisy (subjective, depends on facing)

but i'm looking for $1.5M +- property which one is not crowded?

it's not labelled as public housing good liao ... lol

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Depends on environment, next to MRT so what?
People got car (s) .
Next to MRT usually crowded and noisy. Yucks
It great i dont like those next to MRT while the masses do.
Suits me very well, muayhahahahahahah

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Edited by Wt_know, 06 July 2015 - 12:55 PM.

Vacanza East, $12xx/psf, Freehold

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Sant Ritz, $12xx/psf, 99LH, next to MRT

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which project would you choose

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Freehold or 99LH next to MRT?

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Guess it's a choice between time/convenience on one hand(near MRT but LH) vs long term�likelihood of better appreciation in view of the property being FH.

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Which one you value more would be the answer. Time and convenience is an immediate gain and adds up over a long period. FH whilst likely to maintain its value and chance of appreciation shld be better than LH will still depend on how well the condo is managed so this is ?

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Good Luck on your house hunting!!

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