mycarforum: Carpark Barrier Knocked My Bonnet part 1

I don't know why the carpark carrier came down and didn't detect my car when I was going into my condo.

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Usually, it won't even come down when I follow closely behind the car in front and it did and I stopped and then it knocked my bonnet. Now has 2 small dent caused by metal and scratch somemore. Heart pain coz new car.

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Where can I get these fixed without forking out too much? This is a SUBARU Forester. It's such a small damaged, like 2 dots but have to fix coz scratched.�

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Can someone advise? Boohoo... Took car from hubby for 1 day and kena this. Am I sway or what? Or rather, is he sway or what...� [;)]

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Edited by pills, 08 September 2016 - 03:24 PM.

Yes, get it fix or rust may developed.

Members here will advise where are the optimal shop to visit, i have no experience sorry.

Yes, unlucky - new car and borrow from husband !

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But perhaps check with condo management�

1) to ensure the fault will not happen again (hitting another car)

2) ? get some form of compensation.

if scratches can be polished off.. �go to PDR.. think 50 for first dent.. subsequent much lesser...�

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if repray whole bonnet .. wld be 100~250 there abts... �if frosted colour.. �then more expensive lo

Yes, get it fix or rust may developed.

Members here will advise where are the optimal shop to visit, i have no experience sorry.

Yes, unlucky - new car and borrow from husband !

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But perhaps check with condo management�

1) to ensure the fault will not happen again (hitting another car)

2) ? get some form of compensation.

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1) The driver is at fault for tailgating. Nothing wrong with the barrier...

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2) More likely get backcharged for damaging the barrier..

Even�tailgating doesnt mean the barrier should come down, right? There should be sensor to sense there is a car behind or near the barrier. Lol.

This happens in my condo as well. The barrier sometimes comes down suddenly even when i am the only car passing through.

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That's why the management stated that drivers should not tailgate when passing through the barriers. If the barrier does come down, the driver can still reverse the car to pass through again.

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So TS, it really was your own fault for tailgating.

2 many Neutral Newbies cars kenna....... what to say leh?? Keep distance always

Anyway 10 years will fly very fast in Singapore

Edited by BanCoe, 08 September 2016 - 04:18 PM.

I always follow behind and even security guard always ask us to go through fast to clear it. It detects and won't come down if "tailgating". In fact, if there's a distance between you and the car in front, the barrier will come down and jerk and go upwards if detect 2nd car.. Maybe not good for barrier, that's why security guard always ask us to go through fast if there's 2 cars.

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Today is a part time security guard on duty. He claimed he didn't do anything so I am going to request to view video and will definitely feedback to management.

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SuPerBoRed, where's PDR? Thanks for your help!

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Don't think mine is frosted colour.. It's the Forester Blue.�

Edited by pills, 08 September 2016 - 04:36 PM.

1) The driver is at fault for tailgating. Nothing wrong with the barrier...

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2) More likely get backcharged for damaging the barrier..

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You think barrier so easily spoil meh?

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The impact is from top down, you think I driving tank and will spoil barrier meh?!

Edited by pills, 08 September 2016 - 04:45 PM.

I always follow behind and even security guard always ask us to go through fast to clear it. It detects and won't come down if "tailgating". In fact, if there's a distance between you and the car in front, the barrier will come down and jerk and go upwards if detect 2nd car.. Maybe not good for barrier, that's why security guard always ask us to go through fast if there's 2 cars.

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Today is a part time security guard on duty. He claimed he didn't do anything so I am going to request to view video and will definitely feedback to management.

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SuPerBoRed, where's PDR? Thanks for your help!

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Don't think mine is frosted colour.. It's the Forester Blue.�

TS, I'm puzzled. you are entering your own condo, why need to tailgate? Not like there is gonna be extra charge to your car what. Won't hurt to go in one by one. But since you choose not to wait and took the risk then have to bear the consequences lor.�

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Btw, PDR refers to Paintless Dent Removal.

I always follow behind and even security guard always ask us to go through fast to clear it. It detects and won't come down if "tailgating". In fact, if there's a distance between you and the car in front, the barrier will come down and jerk and go upwards if detect 2nd car.. Maybe not good for barrier, that's why security guard always ask us to go through fast if there's 2 cars.

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Today is a part time security guard on duty. He claimed he didn't do anything so I am going to request to view video and will definitely feedback to management.

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SuPerBoRed, where's PDR? Thanks for your help!

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Don't think mine is frosted colour.. It's the Forester Blue.�

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http://www.pdr.com.sg/

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paintless dent removal.

High jack the thread alittle..

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What if the barrier is manually operated by the security guard in guard house?

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Happened to me once, the barrier was up. Guard told me clear to go in, so when i went in, i think he pressed the button to up the barrier thinking its in the down position to let me in without first checking the positioning of the barrier.

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Can claim against the management like that? It's obviously due to the guard fault.

Edited by Spiritseye, 08 September 2016 - 04:48 PM.

High jack the thread alittle..

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What if the barrier is manually operated by the security guard in guard house?

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Happened to me once, the barrier was up. Guard told me clear to go in, so when i went in, i think he pressed the button to up the barrier thinking its in the down position to let me in without first checking the positioning of the barrier.

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Can claim against the management like that? It's obviously due to the guard fault.

Wah.. Power.. Then you claim guard lor. Management will not take responsibility 1 leh (IMO)

How to claim like that? claim insurance? Dont think cover right. And i dont think these malaysian guard willing to pay also..haii

High jack the thread alittle..

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What if the barrier is manually operated by the security guard in guard house?

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Happened to me once, the barrier was up. Guard told me clear to go in, so when i went in, i think he pressed the button to up the barrier thinking its in the down position to let me in without first checking the positioning of the barrier.

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Can claim against the management like that? It's obviously due to the guard fault.

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Actually, I suspect so also or it's just a sway accident. Coz the part timers are very ngiao, won't even come out of the guard house when there's delivery for eg. to check on the delivery guy's vehicle and take down details. They wanted to delivery guy to go to them instead and my guard house is high up. Some blur and didn't know and obviously didn't read sign that they have to go to guard house.

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Once, I had to go down myself coz I thought guard was away, ended up guard sitting inside thinking he is king!� [bounce1]

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I would want to claim against the management but feel bad for the guy who isn't earning much and will kena also. But they cannot happy happy just close on me if they don't see properly right? They can always follow me down the carpark and ask for details if they think I am not a resident. How can they damage someone's car?! �If I have driven faster, it may hit top of car and kena worse damage? Grr...

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Hubby is in management committee anyway and he's going to ask them for video. If it's a freak accident then at least must make sure prob is rectified to prevent further cases on others too.

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Anyway, did you manage to claim from you management for your case?

High jack the thread alittle..

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What if the barrier is manually operated by the security guard in guard house?

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Happened to me once, the barrier was up. Guard told me clear to go in, so when i went in, i think he pressed the button to up the barrier thinking its in the down position to let me in without first checking the positioning of the barrier.

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Can claim against the management like that? It's obviously due to the guard fault.

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You are the driver driving your car leh.

You see danger coming , u still move your car as usual?

You need to stay alert for those unusual incident.

Edited by L23, 08 September 2016 - 04:58 PM.

Hey, if you press on accelerator already then the thing comes down suddenly, you think you have time to react until your car totally clear?

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Wait til one of you guys kena.�

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We're here to ask for solutions, why keep pointing out whose fault it is?

Edited by pills, 08 September 2016 - 05:01 PM.

By the way, for spray/touch up job, where in the east can I get it done cheap and fast? And of course a reliable place.

You are the driver driving your car leh.

You see danger coming , u still move your car as usual?

You need to stay alert for those unusual incident.

L23,

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What do you mean by seeing 'danger coming'? I do not understand your sentence.

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I turning into the Condo, I saw the barrier was up. I came to a stop and gave a nod to the guard (could have just went in cos barrier up, like so many people). The guard nodded back at me and gave me clear to move in. I moved in halfway, barrier came down.

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Obviously the bloody guard took for granted thinking that the barrier was in it's 'default' position of down and so he pressed the button to open it up for me, but cos of the barrier position, it goes down instead of up.

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Anyway, i don't think you properly read my last post, so...

Similar to elevator doors safety, a decent parking barrier system should have non tamperable safety sensors to prevent the barrier from hitting the car, regardless of what button the guard has pressed. Who will actually implement a system that allows the guard an option to "chop" a car in half LOL?!?

I think the "no tailgating" warning is more to prevent parking fee avoidance than safety lah. The safety sensors should detect two cars tailgate scenario just like a single longer vehicle. It may not be able to charge the second car's fee, but it should not bring the barrier down.

For TS case, most likely due to lauyah sensor tuning that the vendor can reconfigure. I've seen our vendor tuning my condo's system after some initial reports of non-responsive barrier. I've been really close to front cars a few times but never kenna "karate chop" so far *touch wood*

Edited by Jellandross, 08 September 2016 - 06:25 PM.

I do the kiasu way. When a car is infront, let it pass, let the barrier drop and then drive forward to raise it,

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Some of you expecting the barrier to work like a human mind. But it is just a sensor linked to a computer ( or chip) and sometimes it is very slow to work out what's going on.

2 many Neutral Newbies cars kenna....... what to say leh?? Keep distance always

Anyway 10 years will fly very fast in Singapore

haha! surf MCF more and won't get hit by gantry barrier . . . [laugh] � [lipsrsealed] � [grin]

How to claim like that? claim insurance? Dont think cover right. And i dont think these malaysian guard willing to pay also..haii

There is a word called Excess...... it might be anything from $400 to upto $1000 on average though it might depend on experience, type of car, profile, age of driver �.......etc .... lots of parameters in calculation until we can go nuts at times, if its a run of the mill vehicle then its more or less streamlined in calculation�

This week school holiday, I try to avoid going condos with lauya gantry sensors [:)]

I do the kiasu way. When a car is infront, let it pass, let the barrier drop and then drive forward to raise it,

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Some of you expecting the barrier to work like a human mind. But it is just a sensor linked to a computer ( or chip) and sometimes it is very slow to work out what's going on.

Barrier must spray WD40 �

This week school holiday, I try to avoid going condos with lauya gantry sensors

You must be lucky one staying at house next to Plaza Singapura.... no barrier one there above [:p]

..... but underground maybe got spikes one [laugh] ��

Barrier must spray WD40 �

You must be lucky one staying at house next to Plaza Singapura.... no barrier one there above

..... but underground maybe got spikes one ��

heng ahh no barrier 'cos i drive convertible [laugh]

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I better go buy a motor helmet just in case [smash]

TS, can go to any spray painting shop to spray and fix the dent, $200-$250, don't pay more than that.

You can also opt to spray just that portion for about $80, but workshop will advise you that the paint tone may look abit different. I tried it on a front fender kerb rash for dark grey colour, naked eyes can't tell the different. But yours on bonnet abit more obvious to the eyes and not sure what colour, so I can't comment much whether just spraying a portion is okay or not.

I do my car at Revol amk cause I do my pps package there and the folks are quite nice.

There is a word called Excess...... it might be anything from $400 to upto $1000 on average though it might depend on experience, type of car, profile, age of driver �.......etc .... lots of parameters in calculation until we can go nuts at times, if its a run of the mill vehicle then its more or less streamlined in calculation�

BanCoe,

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Thanks.

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Guess I must go flip through and read up more on the documentations.

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Anyway, I am just asking to know more. After that incident, I came down and told the guard to double check the positioning of the barrier before performing any actions. He seemed apologetic, So i just shrugged it off and told him it's just a car. (even though there's a scratch and minor dent). Told him that if it's some other more NGIAO person then that's it, a big hoo-ha will ensue.

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Happened another time with another guard but I already had this experience once thus I didn't moved forward like the previous time. Told off the guard and this time, this a**hole doesn't seem too apologetic and even ignored me. What's the matter with these people. Came here to have a decent job and doesn't even want to do it well and so dis-interested. SIGH.

BanCoe,

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Thanks.

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Guess I must go flip through and read up more on the documentations.

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Anyway, I am just asking to know more. After that incident, I came down and told the guard to double check the positioning of the barrier before performing any actions. He seemed apologetic, So i just shrugged it off and told him it's just a car. (even though there's a scratch and minor dent). Told him that if it's some other more NGIAO person then that's it, a big hoo-ha will ensue.

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Happened another time with another guard but I already had this experience once thus I didn't moved forward like the previous time. Told off the guard and this time, this a**hole doesn't seem too apologetic and even ignored me. What's the matter with these people. Came here to have a decent job and doesn't even want to do it well and so dis-interested. SIGH.

Bro ..... all the guards in the smaller Condo's are like that type .... what to do?? �they are all Ah Peks mostly in their 70's & time pass ; most of the security Agencies are also the B or C rating type; Somehow they have mastered or honed in the skill of "boh chapping" very well where we can bark like dogs and they just act like Blur Cock; �Complain to manager or Management also like nothing can happen one; I have had my fair share too n complained about the slowness of him or pressing the button to open; Later the manager told me he is 80 + years old .... I said WTF to myself and suck thumb; govt give a lot of incentive to agencies to hire especially older persons with SEC (Special employment Credits and what nots)

Bro ..... all the guards in the smaller Condo's are like that type .... what to do?? �they are all Ah Peks mostly in their 70's & time pass ; most of the security Agencies are also the B or C rating type; Somehow they have mastered or honed in the skill of "boh chapping" very well where we can bark like dogs and they just act like Blur Cock; �Complain to manager or Management also like nothing can happen one; I have had my fair share too n complained about the slowness of him or pressing the button to open; Later the manager told me he is 80 + years old .... I said WTF to myself and suck thumb; govt give a lot of incentive to agencies to hire especially older persons with SEC (Special employment Credits and what nots)

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BanCoe,

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Bro, the guards I have are not those old 'pioneer generation type'. Even if they are, they are not our Singapore's Pioneer generation.

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Most of them are young. in their late 20s to 30s and this guy I had a beef with, is in his 50s tops. Still in a good age for work but alas...

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When it first happened, the 2 guys were very apologetic and quickly came to where i parked my vehicle etc and�help me to check on�the 'damages' and keep on saying sorry,�instead of sitting their asses in the guardhouse. I sensed their sincerity (Or they are just really good actors, but well, at least they try haha) thus I just let it go...

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Anyway, if really old men/aunty working, then just close an eye. They really are old sometimes must give chance, they can't adapt themselves very well to the fast changing world we are in now..

heng ahh no barrier 'cos i drive convertible

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I better go buy a motor helmet just in case

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Convertible da best. Free parking all the way.

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BanCoe,

Bro, the guards I have are not those old 'pioneer generation type'. Even if they are, they are not our Singapore's Pioneer generation.

Most of them are young. in their late 20s to 30s and this guy I had a beef with, is in his 50s tops. Still in a good age for work but alas...

When it first happened, the 2 guys were very apologetic and quickly came to where i parked my vehicle etc and help me to check on the 'damages' and keep on saying sorry, instead of sitting their asses in the guardhouse. I sensed their sincerity (Or they are just really good actors, but well, at least they try haha) thus I just let it go...

Anyway, if really old men/aunty working, then just close an eye. They really are old sometimes must give chance, they can't adapt themselves very well to the fast changing world we are in now..

That's why my Condo now use IU which so far I find more better and the guard stand there just like Stamford Raffles but in seated position and wears so dark glasses that I wonder why at night - could be the glare from car lights or he can Keng sleeping ,

Ur Guards probably have gone for catarct op

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but pretend to be part of mafia� [laugh]

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That's why my Condo now use IU which so far I find more better and the guard stand there just like Stamford Raffles but in seated position and wears so dark glasses that I wonder why at night - could be the glare from car lights or he can Keng sleeping ,

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I read with a pinch of salt. It's just TS side of the story. TS's car is not installed with a car cam? Unless there's a video I won't be so quick to blame the security guard.

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Another thing is whether TS is the only condo resident whose car got hit by the barrier? If yes, the answer to what really happen is kinda obvious and TS should relook the way she approach the gantry barrier.

Edited by Watwheels, 08 September 2016 - 11:36 PM.

BanCoe,

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Bro, the guards I have are not those old 'pioneer generation type'. Even if they are, they are not our Singapore's Pioneer generation.

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Most of them are young. in their late 20s to 30s and this guy I had a beef with, is in his 50s tops. Still in a good age for work but alas...

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When it first happened, the 2 guys were very apologetic and quickly came to where i parked my vehicle etc and�help me to check on�the 'damages' and keep on saying sorry,�instead of sitting their asses in the guardhouse. I sensed their sincerity (Or they are just really good actors, but well, at least they try haha) thus I just let it go...

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Anyway, if really old men/aunty working, then just close an eye. They really are old sometimes must give chance, they can't adapt themselves very well to the fast changing world we are in now..

Wah.. why did it happened so many times in your condo? The sensor has prob...

I read with a pinch of salt. It's just TS side of the story. TS's car is not installed with a car cam? Unless there's a video I won't be so quick to blame the security guard.

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Another thing is whether TS is the only condo resident whose car got hit by the barrier? If yes, the answer to what really happen is kinda obvious and TS should relook the way she approach the gantry barrier.

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Yes, I have cam in my car. The thing is, I was tailgating (so check cam also no use, I was following closely) but the usual security guard always ask me to do this when there's a car in front. Maybe he opens it for me. I don't know.

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Just sway that yesterday a car went in just ahead of me and it was a part time guard.

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Anyway, looks like dent only and surface damaged, not really scratch. Just a waste of time to go workshop. Grr....

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Anyone got recommendation for those that come and touch up dents kind? Hubby said have and if not too ex, I rather that. Have a 2 month old baby at home and a small kiddo. Very inconvenient for me to go out and hubby is really busy at work. :/

Wah.. why did it happened so many times in your condo? The sensor has prob...

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Yes, I have cam in my car. The thing is, I was tailgating (so check cam also no use, I was following closely) but the usual security guard always ask me to do this when there's a car in front. Maybe he opens it for me. I don't know.

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Just sway that yesterday a car went in just ahead of me and it was a part time guard.

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Anyway, looks like dent only and surface damaged, not really scratch. Just a waste of time to go workshop. Grr....

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Anyone got recommendation for those that come and touch up dents kind? Hubby said have and if not too ex, I rather that. Have a 2 month old baby at home and a small kiddo. Very inconvenient for me to go out and hubby is really busy at work. :/

Think bro Sp4wn have already posted in post #11. PDR at Toa Payoh.

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There is another one at Ang Mo Kio as well:

http://www.lyedesigns.com.sg/

Ok, thanks! I'll call them to check it out.

** Speechless **

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Wah.. why did it happened so many times in your condo? The sensor has prob...

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Yes, I have cam in my car. The thing is, I was tailgating (so check cam also no use, I was following closely) but the usual security guard always ask me to do this when there's a car in front. Maybe he opens it for me. I don't know.

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Just sway that yesterday a car went in just ahead of me and it was a part time guard.

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Anyway, looks like dent only and surface damaged, not really scratch. Just a waste of time to go workshop. Grr....

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Anyone got recommendation for those that come and touch up dents kind? Hubby said have and if not too ex, I rather that. Have a 2 month old baby at home and a small kiddo. Very inconvenient for me to go out and hubby is really busy at work. :/

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exactly. I also kiasu.�not all sensors are fault free.�somemore TS staying at own condo. y the need to listen to security & rush entry? non parking charges mah. unless u�are trying to siam parking charges than tailgate at your own risk lor..(its an offence tho) are they security guards�liable for any damages to your car? such incidents, if you can prove its a�mechanical failure or error by all means claim...if not�LLST..you bear your own damages and bad sense of judgement...btw TS if its just a dent�small paint�chip..PDR can aldy laa (www.lyedesigns.com.sg) next�tyme remember to go slow when u enter your carpark laa or any other carpark with auto barriers..no no tailgating... :a-noway:

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I do the kiasu way. When a car is infront, let it pass, let the barrier drop and then drive forward to raise it,

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Some of you expecting the barrier to work like a human mind. But it is just a sensor linked to a computer ( or chip) and sometimes it is very slow to work out what's going on.

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Edited by Blublak, 09 September 2016 - 11:45 AM.

No need to rush but now won't tailgate anymore lo.

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But the usual security guard holds the gate for me I think. So maybe this one doesn't.

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I was hoping to find mobile dent removal companies instead. Haha...

Bonnet might be hard for pdr as there are welding reinforcement below.�The people at the shop can advise. I went to the shop in tpy. Quite happy with their service.

Like others, I always wait for the barrier to come down fully and go up before I cross to prevent the karate chop on my roof.

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