Thứ Năm, 29 tháng 12, 2016

2015 Forester 2.0 part 22

  • 09 February 2016 - 04:59 PM
    Linux8998

    As of last Fri, there was a Brown facelift FXT displayed at LK showroom. �As of last Sat, no FXT displayed at TPY showroom. �Test drive wise, the current FXT is available at both locations and SE said there is no difference between the current/facelift model in terms of drivability. �I believe some brothers here also mentioned that the facelift is mainly cosmetic. �


  • 09 February 2016 - 05:28 PM
    BenTong
    The FL FXT was really molested. stock arriving March I heard. Think quite a few orders. Good luck to Bros who signed on the dotted line.
  • 09 February 2016 - 06:03 PM
    Mkl22

    As of last Fri, there was a Brown facelift FXT displayed at LK showroom. As of last Sat, no FXT displayed at TPY showroom. Test drive wise, the current FXT is available at both locations and SE said there is no difference between the current/facelift model in terms of drivability. I believe some brothers here also mentioned that the facelift is mainly cosmetic.

    Actually it's not true there is no diff. The suspension and steering racks have been redone. For sure can feel a diff. Then the door glass is thicker and you get better insulation

    And the biggest diff is prob active torque vectoring

    Edited by Mkl22, 09 February 2016 - 06:05 PM.

  • 09 February 2016 - 06:16 PM
    Highmount

    FC wise, there is 12 bar representing 60L.. so far left 2 bar after 470 km.. 70% city driving.


    If my math dun fail me, that eqates to 9.4km/l
  • 09 February 2016 - 07:17 PM
    Tohto

    Actually it's not true there is no diff. The suspension and steering racks have been redone. For sure can feel a diff. Then the door glass is thicker and you get better insulation

    And the biggest diff is prob active torque vectoring


    I also believe those items had be changed.
    And as usual SE can only tell you the cosmetic changes and know nothing about technical changes.
  • 09 February 2016 - 07:31 PM
    Ml2spin

    I also believe those items had be changed.
    And as usual SE can only tell you the cosmetic changes and know nothing about technical changes.

    Because they don't really bother... wait for MI to provide actual spec details. And also most buyers would want to know only about the changes they can see in the facelift...


  • 09 February 2016 - 07:34 PM
    Singtel88

    I also believe those items had be changed.
    And as usual SE can only tell you the cosmetic changes and know nothing about technical changes.



    So far what I feel the Subaru SE knowledge on the car is very Low, what new thing in car they don know... I hope Subaru need buck up on this..
  • 09 February 2016 - 08:16 PM
    BenTong

    So far what I feel the Subaru SE knowledge on the car is very Low, what new thing in car they don know... I hope Subaru need buck up on this..

    And yet you signed on the dotted line? Know so much what's the use? FXT 240 bhp enuf dy la. The Mazda, Toyota and Honda got to know so much to compensate for the lack of horses la...!
  • 10 February 2016 - 12:02 AM
    Chucky2007

    Yours is xt ?

    Yap FXT

    FXT c Beh siong hoh. At best u get 9km/l. Coz of all the chionging. But if you worry about FC then suggest you another model la

    Actually 9km/litre ok with me as it's mainly city driving and not that gentle pickup all the time. The turbo kicks in nicely. Power is there when needed. The FC is ok for something this size and power. Pumping wise, as long as one is ok with pumping $300-400 at least every month then this car is quite a joy to have.

    Edited by Chucky2007, 10 February 2016 - 12:02 AM.

  • 10 February 2016 - 12:08 AM
    Mkl22
    Most of the time, There is no way to be powerful but yet fuel efficient. The only way is to shorten the engine life by running it more lean and/or subject it to higher combustion temps. And one brand which has had quite some engine failures comes to mind.
  • 10 February 2016 - 12:11 AM
    Newkid
    So how many bros have signed on the line for FXT so far?
  • 10 February 2016 - 05:10 AM
    BenTong

    Agree with all hands up.
    You may say you are not heavy foot, but the addiction will eat you up day by day. Most bro here started with > 10 km/l and slowly moving downwards to abt 9 or less.
    Not because of other factors, but because of changes to driving pattern.

    And start chalking up demerit ppints
  • 10 February 2016 - 05:27 PM
    BenTong

    For this price diff, I will not mind getting the camera thru' MI. And I believe MI would provide the warranty.

    Sorry. It's $568. Plus 32G card. But agree with you. Rather let MI do. You think MI can give discount?
  • 10 February 2016 - 05:29 PM
    Nav14

    And 110,800 - 8 bids w/o guaranteed COE for those who can wait.

    In 4mths (8 bids) time may get the FXT for 100k guaranteed bid.


  • 10 February 2016 - 05:51 PM
    Undertaker_s

    $650 for the blackvue 2 channel. Outside $598. Problem is whether warranty still intact

    Does MI Blackvue comes with 16G or 32G for memory card? How much is the magic pro?
  • 10 February 2016 - 05:53 PM
    BenTong

    Does MI Blackvue comes with 16G or 32G for memory card? How much is the magic pro?

    No idea leh.
  • 10 February 2016 - 06:42 PM
    Joseph1978
    I'm interested in iL aka NA model. Can share what is the latest
    price after discount & loan interest rates. Many thanks
  • 10 February 2016 - 06:45 PM
    Wondertree

    Does MI Blackvue comes with 16G or 32G for memory card? How much is the magic pro?

    Memory card small issue. Easily get 32gig under 40 bucks in SLS
  • 10 February 2016 - 07:06 PM
    Redfur
    Does Non guaranteed means that for the next 6 or 8 bids,if COE drop below the current value, I will get it? And if it didn't drop below current level, they will refund me fully for my deposit?
  • 10 February 2016 - 07:13 PM
    Palmer

    In 4mths (8 bids) time may get the FXT for 100k guaranteed bid.

    Shouldn't be a problem to get that price in a couple of months.


  • 10 February 2016 - 07:49 PM
    Singtel88

    Does MI Blackvue comes with 16G or 32G for memory card? How much is the magic pro?


    In MI TOP up 100 buck for power magic

    Does MI Blackvue comes with 16G or 32G for memory card? How much is the magic pro?


    In MI TOP up 100 buck for power magic
  • 10 February 2016 - 09:34 PM
    Redsurfer777

    In MI TOP up 100 buck for power magic

    In MI TOP up 100 buck for power magic

    16 or 32 gb is not enough if on 24 hrs. Need 64gb, so doesn't really matter how much they give u. Especially so if you are always parking at cp with high traffic flow.

    Should just add on the power magic. Than later go back and install.

    Edited by Redsurfer777, 10 February 2016 - 09:36 PM.

  • 10 February 2016 - 09:49 PM
    Sarion

    Actually it's not true there is no diff. The suspension and steering racks have been redone. For sure can feel a diff. Then the door glass is thicker and you get better insulation

    And the biggest diff is prob active torque vectoring

    some of the elements like rear area has been designed to be stronger as well, so the new car will definitely not drive the same as Pre-FL.


    Read on some review that the Paddle Shift is more a "gimmicky" thingy as on CVT engine, can't really feel the gear changes so rely a lot of the onboard electronics to ensure the appropriate gear ratios to suit the situation. The X-Mode does sound useful when descending Genting as less chance of over-steping on brakes and sounds like a form of auto engine braking.

    Cars nowadays are controlled so much by electronics and even parking brake is electronic on Outback. Sometimes miss the old days of manual gears with just the speedometer and odometer to guide us and a pull of the handbrake to ensure car is parked� [laugh]� �

    X-mode won't work for descending Genting, it's meant for low speed only.


  • 10 February 2016 - 11:41 PM
    Redfur

    Memory card small issue. Easily get 32gig under 40 bucks in SLS

    i kinda forget if Blackvue used their proprietary SD card. If so, then its not going to be 40 bucks...


  • 11 February 2016 - 12:00 AM
    Wondertree

    i kinda forget if Blackvue used their proprietary SD card. If so, then its not going to be 40 bucks...

    No. Most modern days SD cards work fine on blackvue.
  • 11 February 2016 - 12:30 AM
    James996
    Hi, anyone know what is the OMV range for new FXT?
    Thanks.
  • 11 February 2016 - 09:26 AM
    Chucky2007
    Omv should be 18k+
  • 11 February 2016 - 10:55 AM
    Linux8998

    Shouldn't be a problem to get that price in a couple of months.

    Then wait another 2 - 3 months for next shipment, then price drop again by the time collect the car... [;)]

    but if you don't have an existing car to sell/scrap, can wait...


  • 11 February 2016 - 11:27 AM
    Runforyourlife

    Then wait another 2 - 3 months for next shipment, then price drop again by the time collect the car... [;)]

    but if you don't have an existing car to sell/scrap, can wait...

    Yeap, and one should be glad that its 'out of stock' because its popular! popular means more spare parts available!


  • 11 February 2016 - 04:41 PM
    denson138

    Then wait another 2 - 3 months for next shipment, then price drop again by the time collect the car... [;)]

    but if you don't have an existing car to sell/scrap, can wait...

    Hope the OMV don't exceed 20K, otherwise the maximum loan would be 50% and need to top up.


  • 11 February 2016 - 07:48 PM
    Singtel88

    Hope the OMV don't exceed 20K, otherwise the maximum loan would be 50% and need to top up.


    Now the yen keep going up... I also kind of worry over 20k ovm... So if ovm suddenly shoot up how?? Will MI ask we TOP up??
  • 11 February 2016 - 08:23 PM
    stonednerd

    hello everyone, I just wanted to say that i enjoyed reading through this thread.

    Booked a NA one recently, and I'm looking forward to getting it...� [:p]


  • 11 February 2016 - 08:33 PM
    BenTong

    Now the yen keep going up... I also kind of worry over 20k ovm... So if ovm suddenly shoot up how?? Will MI ask we TOP up??

    MI won't ask you. Bank just don't lend you.
  • 11 February 2016 - 08:39 PM
    Lurker

    Thanks for all feedback. Have decided to get the Outback� :a-good:.

    Hope to finalize my deal soon and drive the car up Genting Highlands to enjoy the cool mountair air with the sun roof open� [;)]


  • 11 February 2016 - 08:47 PM
    denson138

    Thanks for all feedback. Have decided to get the Outback :a-good:.

    Hope to finalize my deal soon and drive the car up Genting Highlands to enjoy the cool mountair air with the sun roof open [;)]

    I also almost booked Outback, as it is just 2k more than the XT. The interior finish is better than XT, the only thing that I don't like is the cabin height.
  • 11 February 2016 - 08:50 PM
    stonednerd

    I'm interested in iL aka NA model. Can share what is the latest
    price after discount & loan interest rates. Many thanks

    99800 for 8 bids non-guaranteed.�


  • 11 February 2016 - 09:14 PM
    Lurker

    I also almost booked Outback, as it is just 2k more than the XT. The interior finish is better than XT, the only thing that I don't like is the cabin height.

    Seat height is adjustable. I'm 1.79m and still have about one fist of headroom when I put the seat up to have a better view of the rear. But indeed the FXT is higher inside but I find the exterior rather boxy


  • 11 February 2016 - 09:17 PM
    BenTong

    Thanks for all feedback. Have decided to get the Outback :a-good:.

    Hope to finalize my deal soon and drive the car up Genting Highlands to enjoy the cool mountair air with the sun roof open [;)]

    Looks like we will be kicked out from this thread...
  • 12 February 2016 - 11:12 PM
    Redsurfer777

    After owning the Forester XT for 6 mths and honeymoon period over, here are some of my opinions about the car.

    
    

    • Fuel Economy is as per any 2.0 Turbo car, nothing great, nothing too bad either.
    • So far none of the Forester owners in the fraternity managed to engage X-mode effectively, simply cos we don't have such challenging roads in Singapore, or even the usual route in Malaysia.
    • Auto tailgate is slow in opening, sometimes if I'm rushing I just bypass the automation to open immediately, but still engage auto close when I enter the cabin to start my engine.
    • After take other friend's/colleague's ride, I still feel the forester soundproofing is quite superior.
    • Sound system not bad after I got used to it
    • Cannot change the FC readout to Km/l, it's permanently l/100km
    • Tire profile rare due to the weird 18"x7"rim size (18"x7.5" is more common) which practically makes it only allow SUV/ pickup tires to be fitted.
    • The solar film provided by MI sucks. Do yourself a favor is opt out the solar film for 50 buck rebate and go outside and do a better quality (and darker) film.
    • The color option sucks, no young color options. Silver is meh, the blue is too uncle and red is too aunty, in the end most folk choose white. They should have a WRX blue!
    • Due to it's popularity, it's no longer a "rare car" status and quite common on streets. It's becoming as common as the X-trail or Qhasqai, but Vezel still wins in popularity. Now everytime I look at the streets and saw a FXT I will say "yucks"....lol..
    • The exhaust note is non-existent. few days ago during CNY, I was irritate by a Honda Jazz who kept revving his illegal loud exhaust at the junction. I think he wants to "haolian" cos who revs exhaust this way at idling. I line up beside him and rev, no sound!! only the usual hiss...lol.
    • So far no car dare to makan my FXT, I can keep up with most fast cars.
    • take caution when you clean the piano black trims in the interior, they are vulnerable to scratches, don't peel off the protective plastic if you haven't done so.
    Hope these will help on your decision to go ahead.


    You can read my review on the FXT here:
    http://www.sgcarmart...29#comments3729
    Couldn't agree more with your review.
    Definately a car you drive in, not one that you ride in. If u know what i mean.
  • 12 February 2016 - 11:33 PM
    Pocus

    You gonna change tire profile/rims?

    nope, at the moment I choose FC over tire choices... meddling with rims�will affect FC.


    Couldn't agree more with your review.
    Definately a car you drive in, not one that you ride in. If u know what i mean.

    True, it's a driver's car that's what it is.

    The true reason why you will choose the Subaru SUV over others is bcos you love to drive.

    If you want to be perceive as a smart and�practical yuppy, better get the Vezel.

    If you have a big family and want a nice A to B car, better get X-trail.

    If you want to impress your aunties/uncles during CNY, better stick to the conti brand.

    If you love to drive and want a SUV, don't need to look at other threads. This is the one.


    Edited by Pocus, 12 February 2016 - 11:35 PM.

  • 12 February 2016 - 11:41 PM
    Pocus

    What I learned during CNY from older relatives who know�nut about cars:

    "Wah you buy Honda(vezel), resale value very good and good quality, good choice!"

    "Wah a Volvo! You must be doing so well at work. Banker pay very good hor?"

    "What is a Forester? Subaru? Isn't it Ah beng car? I see, not bad lah..." (notice the lack of interest)

    In the end, all looking that number plate to buy 4D.


    Edited by Pocus, 12 February 2016 - 11:42 PM.

  • 13 February 2016 - 12:07 AM
    Nlatio

    You can read my review on the FXT here:
    http://www.sgcarmart...29#comments3729

    Good review Bro Pocus.... if only I read it few months earlier... haaa.... talking to MI SE see can sell a few weeks old ride and get the XT ... but waste time only..... will lost until underwear also gone....haaa

    Edited by Nlatio, 13 February 2016 - 12:08 AM.

  • 13 February 2016 - 12:13 AM
    Pocus

    Good review Bro Pocus.... if only I read it few months earlier... haaa.... talking to MI SE see can sell a few weeks old ride and get the XT ... but waste time only..... will lost until underwear also gone....haaa

    What car you got now? Can't be that bad right?


  • 13 February 2016 - 12:33 AM
    Nlatio

    What car you got now? Can't be that bad right?


    No lar it's ok.... just that once test drive a ride like the Subaru XV and Forester, like u say if one really want to drive, Forester is the one... haaaa.... tio Subaru poison... haaaa
  • 13 February 2016 - 12:39 AM
    Pocus

    No lar it's ok.... just that once test drive a ride like the Subaru XV and Forester, like u say if one really want to drive, Forester is the one... haaaa.... tio Subaru poison... haaaa

    You drive Vezel is it? Not too bad lah.

    The only complain I have, after sitting my uncle's Vezel is the cabin soundproofing and "rough" engine noise, maybe too pamper by my forester. Otherwise it's quite a peppy car, the power is there.

    If I were to choose XV and Vezel,�I'd go for the latter, the power of the XV is not acceptable to for me.


  • 13 February 2016 - 12:43 AM
    Nlatio

    You drive Vezel is it? Not too bad lah.

    The only complain I have, after sitting my uncle's Vezel is the cabin soundproofing and "rough" engine noise, maybe too pamper by my forester. Otherwise it's quite a peppy car, the power is there.

    If I were to choose XV and Vezel, I'd go for the latter, the power of the XV is not acceptable to for me.


    Agree on the power part, but the more stable and quieter is the xv advantage.... OK lar, cannot complain already, got new ride to drive... haaaa.... next round bah...
  • 13 February 2016 - 12:16 PM
    Joseph1978

    Forester will be assembled in Malaysia from Apr 16 onward!? � Forester will flood the roads in Singapore & Malaysia� :a-bang:

    http://asia.nikkei.c...SUV-in-Malaysia

    http://paultan.org/2...g-ckd-possible/


    Forester will be assembled in Malaysia from Apr 16 onward!? � Forester will flood the roads in Singapore & Malaysia� :a-bang:

    http://asia.nikkei.c...SUV-in-Malaysia

    http://paultan.org/2...g-ckd-possible/

    another link

    http://paultan.org/2...ion-april-2016/


  • 13 February 2016 - 12:20 PM
    evo171

    Forester will be assembled in Malaysia from Apr 16 onward!? Forester will flood the roads in Singapore & Malaysia :a-bang:

    http://asia.nikkei.c...SUV-in-Malaysia
    http://paultan.org/2...g-ckd-possible/



    another link
    http://paultan.org/2...ion-april-2016/

    Old news le. Asked SE and he says SG do not have any cars from Msia. All will be from Japan.

    I believe Msia's production is for Msia market.

    Edited by evo171, 13 February 2016 - 12:20 PM.

  • 13 February 2016 - 12:41 PM
    Redsurfer777

    Old news le. Asked SE and he says SG do not have any cars from Msia. All will be from Japan.

    I believe Msia's production is for Msia market.

    Maybe oem to proton brand. Like the mit lancer ex. That's why cover the logo.
  • 13 February 2016 - 12:58 PM
    Puiru
    Into the third month of ownership, my forester NA has achieved 640km with 50L of petrol. 90% highway without much jam. Imagine I am driving the facelift NA that rated 16Km/l FC....
  • 13 February 2016 - 03:13 PM
    BenTong

    Old news le. Asked SE and he says SG do not have any cars from Msia. All will be from Japan.

    I believe Msia's production is for Msia market.

    Actually you can import from Subaru Japan CKD and assemble it yourself.
  • 13 February 2016 - 07:40 PM
    Newkid

    Old news le. Asked SE and he says SG do not have any cars from Msia. All will be from Japan.

    I believe Msia's production is for Msia market.

    The Malaysia assembled Forester is meant for ASEAN market where It can be imported tax free�under the ASEAN FTA. But the FTA for Singapore exclude all automobiles


  • 13 February 2016 - 07:43 PM
    Cosmicclaw

    My SE said japan version and SG version different. Duno how true their info.

    I was told by SE that Singapore imports cars similar to those for Australia market. Japanese market has its own JDM models, meant ony for their own domestic market.


  • 13 February 2016 - 07:45 PM
    Newkid

    Actually you can import from Subaru Japan CKD and assemble it yourself.

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