mycarforum: 2015 Forester 2.0 part 24

CAR UP TO 1600CC & 97KW� $43,000

CAR ABOVE 1600CC OR 97KW $46,970

Edited by Singtel88, 17 February 2016 - 04:07 PM.

Cat B went up by $9000. Those bros who bought recently and kena this bid are a lucky bunch manz. Wondering if anyone kena. Anyway After this round my confidence of it dropping lower in june is greatly affected. Fingers cross!!!

Cat B went up by $9000. Those bros who bought recently and kena this bid are a lucky bunch manz. Wondering if anyone kena. Anyway After this round my confidence of it dropping lower in june is greatly affected. Fingers cross!!!

That's what the Cat A folks feared too. Went up as much as it went down. Then now.. Lower than the previous low. Let's keep finger cross that it will be so. Anyway the next quarter COE quota should be at least as big as this quarter.

Cat B went up by $9000. Those bros who bought recently and kena this bid are a lucky bunch manz. Wondering if anyone kena. Anyway After this round my confidence of it dropping lower in june is greatly affected. Fingers cross!!!

Relac bro. Like others in the COE thread says, rebound but still lower than Jan. Downtread looks intact.

For those who booked during the 38k Cat B era, how many of your secured your COE at 46.8k?

Edited by Icecube187, 17 February 2016 - 06:08 PM.

Relac bro. Like others in the COE thread says, rebound but still lower than Jan. Downtread looks intact.

Yup, downtrend still intact like the share market's downtrend chart pattern - �a�series of lower-high and lower-low. �IMHO, �the COE may only hit rock bottom in 6-12 mths time if the supply remain constant or higher

For those who booked during the 38k Cat B era, how many of your secured your COE at 46.8k?

Those who booked le, can go OneMotoring to see how much MI bid for u all.

Those who booked le, can go OneMotoring to see how much MI bid for u all.

Yah, those who got it should share their joy here. Make those wannabes be envious!

Hi, may I know if MI offers any option for rims upgrade to 19 or 20 inch? Qashqai which is a smaller SUV already comes in 19inch rims for the 2.0L version. It would be great if MI were to offer this option too so that we need not void any warranty.

The bigger the rims, the bumpier the ride (low profile) and more costly tyre replacement.

The 17" rims that come with the XT is good enough.

After all, the FORESTER is a SUV with a high CG. Not meant for fast cornering.

Edited by Vinceng, 17 February 2016 - 08:45 PM.

The bigger the rims, the bumpier the ride (low profile) and more costly tyre replacement.

The 17" rims that come with the XT is good enough.

After all, the FORESTER is a SUV with a high CG. Not meant for fast cornering.

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XT is using the 18" rims.

The bigger the rims, the bumpier the ride (low profile) and more costly tyre replacement.

The 17" rims that come with the XT is good enough.

After all, the FORESTER is a SUV with a high CG. Not meant for fast cornering.

Thanks. Bigger rims are purely for astetics reason, not for going fast. Bigger rims ain't going to help much in fast cornering. Do understand the bumpier ride, more costly tyre and to add higher FC too. Got to pay the price for vanity.

Unlikely to get awarded a COE now because most people who bought cars during this CNY period aren't buying ex-stock so the dealer will probably clear off their backlog FIFO. Give you a COE also no physical car to deliver.

Thanks. Bigger rims are purely for astetics reason, not for going fast. Bigger rims ain't going to help much in fast cornering. Do understand the bumpier ride, more costly tyre and to add higher FC too. Got to pay the price for vanity.

I like your honesty. Maybe also get a set of 30 inch and turn your XT into Monster trucks during weekends.

Pls share with me on the "many other better designed, fitted and equipped options" out there in the market, having the same or lesser yearly depre than the forester NA, without considering parallel imported cars such as Vezel.

Choosing NA over XT is a 11k savings, which for some, such savings can be put to better use. Having a turbo is a good to have, not a must have.

Sadly, seems like this XT drivers here are already trying to differentiate themselves from the NA drivers

No differentiation la.. don't be sensitive.. all friendly.

Just plainly sharing my view last time when I bought a colt plus and decides not to get the turbo version as the price difference is 10k.. and it's 44k versus 55k which is a 20+% price difference then.

Bec some forester owners may not mind the 10k difference so just sharing that turbo version is actually quite fun to drive.

Edited by Chucky2007, 19 February 2016 - 07:12 AM.

I went down to inspect the fxt 2016 facelift. Found the rear passenger doors to be less solid and felt lighter than the 2015 fxt model and even the lower spec NA 2015 and 2016 models.

The front doors were good. Only rear doors felt different.

Can owners of 2016 fxt or potential car buyers provide feedback on rear door (non) solid feel ?

Can owners of 2016 fxt or potential car buyers provide feedback on rear door (non) solid feel ?

I do not know about 2016 FXT but when I tested the doors of the 2015 FXT at the last car show, I found its doors (not just rear doors) slightly on the hollow side. In fact I heard a slight rattle when I shut one of the doors. Comparatively , the X-Trail parked at the back at Nissan's booth had a much more solid�feel to its doors.

I am ok with� the doors not having a solid feel as long as no rattles when driving.

Even if they bidded 47k, for XTs booked at 111k, they would be making a good 18-19k profit. Not enough profit? 5 years ago 10k profit for 2 litre Japanese cars was the norm and that too was on the upper end, now min is 20k profit. Operational costs went up but not 100%

Enough profit, but there are those that bought earlier that they have to fufill first. Of course they want to fully utilize all their tools and means on their hand.

I do not know about 2016 FXT but when I tested the doors of the 2015 FXT at the last car show, I found its doors (not just rear doors) slightly on the hollow side. In fact I heard a slight rattle when I shut one of the doors. Comparatively , the X-Trail parked at the back at Nissan's booth had a much more solid feel to its doors.
I am ok with the doors not having a solid feel as long as no rattles when driving.

I found the rear doors of 2016 fxt less solid compared to the front doors of the same car.

I walked to 2015 fxt. The rear doors are more solid than 2016 fxt rear.

No differentiation la.. don't be sensitive.. all friendly.

Just plainly sharing my view last time when I bought a colt plus and decides not to get the turbo version as the price difference is 10k.. and it's 44k versus 55k which is a 20+% price difference then.

Bec some forester owners may not mind the 10k difference so just sharing that turbo version is actually quite fun to drive.

Now got the mobile camera come out liao..hard to enjoy liao

Edited by newbie12345, 19 February 2016 - 09:26 AM.

Now got the mobile camera come out liao..hard to enjoy liao

Can still have 5 seconds of bliss. :p

I do not know about 2016 FXT but when I tested the doors of the 2015 FXT at the last car show, I found its doors (not just rear doors) slightly on the hollow side. In fact I heard a slight rattle when I shut one of the doors. Comparatively , the X-Trail parked at the back at Nissan's booth had a much more solid�feel to its doors.

I am ok with� the doors not having a solid feel as long as no rattles when driving.

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Well no worry we take passport cross over other side we can try the full power

This few days i saw alot new XV on the road.. I saw their fog light is up... when travel behind them i don like the back light is up so mean there is a chance DRL is on the fog light...

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So as for forester 2016 face lift model there is possible for light is our DRL not the C light... I will confirm this one i got the car at end march.

Well no worry we take passport cross over other side we can try the full power

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Dun worry, we can still turbo from 0-60kph in 5 secs for neighbourhood areas.

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This few days i saw alot new XV on the road.. I saw their fog light is up... when travel behind them i don like the back light is up so mean there is a chance DRL is on the fog light...

So as for forester 2016 face lift model there is possible for light is our DRL not the C light... I will confirm this one i got the car at end march.

U get this time round? Is ur guarantee bid?

U get this time round? Is ur guarantee bid?

I get got the Coe on 38k round I go for 8 bid non gurarantee Coe.. First round kana

Edited by Singtel88, 19 February 2016 - 01:05 PM.

Dun worry, we can still turbo from 0-60kph in 5 secs for neighbourhood areas.

Cheers!� � �

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Neighborhood area are the place that I will not want to drive fast. There will always have dashing out �bicycle (especially electric bicycle), slow crossing elderly.�

Better be safe.

Edited by Tohto, 19 February 2016 - 01:46 PM.

So what's the latest selling price after this week's COE increase?

Listed px:
NA $110,800
XT $121,800

Listed px:
NA $110,800
XT $121,800

I guess there will be the "standard" $2k discount, plus $1k less if go for non guarantee bid.

Net $7k increase in price for FXT.

New price.

I get got the Coe on 38k round I go for 8 bid non gurarantee Coe.. First round kana

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U get the 38K COE for the first bid? Very lucky.

When did you book your ride?

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After signing the contract, it should be better to have as higher as possible COE.

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I guess there will be the "standard" $2k discount, plus $1k less if go for non guarantee bid.

Net $7k increase in price for FXT.

Its back to almost the price after Jan 2nd Bid, just $1k off the listed price.

But Jan 2nd bid COE was $50,088, latest COE only $46970.

After signing the contract, it should be better to have as higher as possible COE.

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Provided you have paid more for the guaranteed COE...otherwise there is a chance that you might not get it. � [;)]

Its back to almost the price after Jan 2nd Bid, just $1k off the listed price.

But Jan 2nd bid COE was $50,088, latest COE only $46970.

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Dealers always win...

Interior quality of fxt is not very good. The plastic cover on the door is shaky and flimsy.

With a slight tug you can feel movement outwards. Material appears lighter and less solid. Sound hollow.

Quality is better in my current 6 years old forester...

I get got the Coe on 38k round I go for 8 bid non gurarantee Coe.. First round kana

Hi, i just booked a XT on Monday with 6 bid gurantee but didn't get COE this round. How come u can get COE with cheaper package???

Hi, i just booked a XT on Monday with 6 bid gurantee but didn't get COE this round. How come u can get COE with cheaper package???

Haiya. He revised his bid above $46.7 K la. That's why

Haiya. He revised his bid above $46.7 K la. That's why

Why IM didn't revise my bid? Is it i should hv priority over non gurantee package? Sorry for stupid question.

Why IM didn't revise my bid? Is it i should hv priority over non gurantee package? Sorry for stupid question.

Maybe he TOP up.
Or maybe he booked before COE $38. So when COE drop to $38k he get it la.

Hi, i just booked a XT on Monday with 6 bid gurantee but didn't get COE this round. How come u can get COE with cheaper package???

He probably booked before the $38k COE and got it when COE drop. You bought on Monday at a cheaper price (after MI revised the price down based on $38k COE), if they give you COE this time round, they will earn alot lesser.

Plus they have 5 more bids to "play" and they are waiting for COE to be hopefully closer to $38k or better, drop even lower than give u. :p

Edited by evo171, 19 February 2016 - 08:41 PM.

My friend's Forester XT, the button at the boot, to auto close the boot, faulty after just 9 months. Luckily covered under warranty. Replacement costs few hundred bucks.

Interior quality of fxt is not very good. The plastic cover on the door is shaky and flimsy.

With a slight tug you can feel movement outwards. Material appears lighter and less solid. Sound hollow.

Quality is better in my current 6 years old forester...

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FXT buyers focussed on power and mods. Not plastic covers [;)] .
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Where to install module for auto folding side mirror? And how much?

FXT buyers focussed on power and mods. Not plastic covers .
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I don't see the top dash of the Forester that bad. at least it still felt soft to touch.�

Where to install module for auto folding side mirror? And how much?

Better to install speed cam detector. Esp with all the mobile speed camera!

Maybe the front door is more insulated. But the rear door of the XT facelift is still strangely less solid and lighter feel than the new facelift NA.

Also SE mentioned facelift xt has only comestic change. No change to suspension and steering etc for Singapore model. Hence no need to provide facelift xt for test drive. Is this true ?

Hope Bros going down to showroom can share their opinions here.

Sales talk to make you commit just based on test driving the current version. If you can wait, just wait for the FL version then test drive and decide yourself.

Any good SE to recommend. So far standard discount is 2k ?

Anybody thought about bulk buy with better discount.

Appreciate feedback on the less solid rear door for XT. My feel is it is less solid than the front door and less solid than the rear door of NA. This gives a poor impression on quality control and is potential show stopper.

Edited by TurboAct, 20 February 2016 - 08:22 AM.

Any good SE to recommend. So far standard discount is 2k ?

Anybody thought about bulk buy with better discount.

Appreciate feedback on the less solid rear door for XT. My feel is it is less solid than the front door and less solid than the rear door of NA. This gives a poor impression on quality control and is potential show stopper.

Actually forester doors felt lighter comparing to XV and outback. I was very impressed with the heavy yet solid closing feel of the XV. Maybe that's one component for achieving lower omv for the FXT?

Edited by Puiru, 20 February 2016 - 08:37 AM.

Actually forester doors felt lighter comparing to XV and outback. I was very impressed with the heavy yet solid closing feel of the XV. Maybe that's one component for achieving lower omv for the FXT?

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The eyesight technology is also removed to lower the OMV as well.

The eyesight technology is also removed to lower the OMV as well.

just be happy with the extra 80 -100 horses.

Any good SE to recommend. So far standard discount is 2k ?

Anybody thought about bulk buy with better discount.

Appreciate feedback on the less solid rear door for XT. My feel is it is less solid than the front door and less solid than the rear door of NA. This gives a poor impression on quality control and is potential show stopper.

Will go check it out and see if it is really less solid. Hopefully more solid than my Kia can le..haha

Actually forester doors felt lighter comparing to XV and outback. I was very impressed with the heavy yet solid closing feel of the XV. Maybe that's one component for achieving lower omv for the FXT?

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Subaru made the Forester doors lighter to lower the OMV for Singapore market? �Hmm...interesting...

Google and read up on the net. You get more info that from most sales in Singapore who are only measured on the number of people signing their sales agreements. Stupid or dunno never mind, as long as many customer sign with you, then he is the best salesman.

Yes, cannot customize specs but can add or delete options.if the glass is thicker for sure they will not make a batch with thinner glass for Singapore. Likewise for the suspension and steering recalibration.

That's exactly what I mean.
Like Eye Sight, this is a option. So they can opt out for Singapore market. But thicker glass. Should be part of the normal change.

just be happy with the extra 80 -100 horses.

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Yeah! And hope the COE shoot high high during next bid.... [:p] � [:p] � [:p]

Attended new owners workshop. There were lots of questions asked. For all those looking at FL, confirmed only lights and cosmetic change. No thicker windows, no extra door insulation, no torque vectoring etc etc. The rear door issue in FL raised above may just be a problem w that unit.

FC on XT after 3500km, last tank 9.8km/l. Improved from when new at 9.0km/l. Happy w ride.

Attended new owners workshop. There were lots of questions asked. For all those looking at FL, confirmed only lights and cosmetic change. No thicker windows, no extra door insulation, no torque vectoring etc etc. The rear door issue in FL raised above may just be a problem w that unit.

FC on XT after 3500km, last tank 9.8km/l. Improved from when new at 9.0km/l. Happy w ride.

Have new owners workshop? How to sign up?

Attended new owners workshop. There were lots of questions asked. For all those looking at FL, confirmed only lights and cosmetic change. No thicker windows, no extra door insulation, no torque vectoring etc etc. The rear door issue in FL raised above may just be a problem w that unit.

FC on XT after 3500km, last tank 9.8km/l. Improved from when new at 9.0km/l. Happy w ride.

AD/MI is middleman with a monopoly business. Can verify with principal Subaru ?

The facelift XT for Singapore is from Japan right ?

If true. Subaru is not consistent with their products.

If you display a showroom product with defect what does it say about your quality control.

Disappointing.

AD/MI is middleman with a monopoly business. Can verify with principal Subaru ?

The facelift XT for Singapore is from Japan right ?

If true. Subaru is not consistent with their products.

If you display a showroom product with defect what does it say about your quality control.

Disappointing.

Just focus on the 250 horses la...

Workshop invite is sent to new owners by SMS. Fills up fast. Sign up quick if interested. Can ask all your questions and get useful info listening to others' questions.

Even pre-FL XT is different from JDM. Unless PI, no matter what make or model, Singapore cars are not necessarily the same spec as any other foreign country. Normal.

Just focus on the 250 horses la...

I wish everything is as simple as that...

If SE said that to me. I will say ok loh....bye.

Workshop invite is sent to new owners by SMS. Fills up fast. Sign up quick if interested. Can ask all your questions and get useful info listening to others' questions.

Even pre-FL XT is different from JDM. Unless PI, no matter what make or model, Singapore cars are not necessarily the same spec as any other foreign country. Normal.

Australia fl xt had mechanical upgrade.

Singapore should be same as Australia.

Unless the cars are from Malaysia. Is this the case ?

Workshop invite is sent to new owners by SMS. Fills up fast. Sign up quick if interested. Can ask all your questions and get useful info listening to others' questions.

Even pre-FL XT is different from JDM. Unless PI, no matter what make or model, Singapore cars are not necessarily the same spec as any other foreign country. Normal.

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Was told Singapore cars are same as Aussie market. Too small to have a separate SG market selection

Was told Singapore cars are same as Aussie market. Too small to have a separate SG market selection

That is also what I understand.
Only thing is we don't have option for Eye Sight, which is not important to me.

MI / TC has an assembly factory in malaysia. Maybe the defect showroom car is from Malaysia?

Hope not the new cars...

Now got the mobile camera come out liao..hard to enjoy liao

If wanna speed and don't keep a look out far ahead left right and near left right for camera, and constantly look begind for TP...then don't speed...

Actually forester doors felt lighter comparing to XV and outback. I was very impressed with the heavy yet solid closing feel of the XV. Maybe that's one component for achieving lower omv for the FXT?

Maybe VX lesser people view... and FIAT everyday hour got people open close open close doors and the hinges are less restrictive and closes easier hence give impression of lower QC..

That's my thought only.. I really never go touch the XV at all...

Attended new owners workshop. There were lots of questions asked. For all those looking at FL, confirmed only lights and cosmetic change. No thicker windows, no extra door insulation, no torque vectoring etc etc. The rear door issue in FL raised above may just be a problem w that unit.

FC on XT after 3500km, last tank 9.8km/l. Improved from when new at 9.0km/l. Happy w ride.

Rubbish. Improvements like better insulation , improved suspension cannot be optional. These should be basic part of the car. You guys have just been hoodwinked to make you guys feel good and not regret not waiting for the FL. I suggest you test drive the FL when it is available to see if there is any obvious difference.
The new owners workshop cannot be a session to make the new owners regret not waiting just a bit longer.
Anyway I am impressed that they arranged for a new owners workshop. Never heard of this with other ADs.

Subaru Australia is still selling pre-FL Forester. I don't see any reliable Aussie reports on FL there. Aussie Foresters don't seem to me identical to Singapore models in all the specs. So MI can bring in a more basic spec than Aussie models, even if they ride on Aussie order base. Low OMV, right? Even for NA, those hoping for JDM 16km/l version, I asked, answer is "no". Dial down expectations to cosmetics and lights. If eventually it has the other extras, then feel happy la. Chill. It is already a very good ride. Good power, best safety rating, spacious, IKEA friendly, smooth, kids fall asleep all the time, best outward driving visibility, cute LED turn signal, decent/good audio, good handling, steady in rain, FC not bad, good price/depreciation, drive up Malaysia is fun. CNY trip 9-hours on the road still enjoyable, no fatigue. No need to amplify what it may not have. What it has is good stuff.

Went to MI today, crowded til there were no salesmen at the counter, only the receptionist. After checking out the FXT, wanted to ask salesman about the financing and all. Went to counter, saw 3 salesmen seated there using their hp and chatting, so went to ask receptionist again. She said no salesmen available, want a pricelist? I said i dont need price list cos already know the price, just need a salesman. But she said dont have. So we left. Wow, sales so good that they can choose not to entertain interested buyers.
FXT seemed popular with many checking it out. They also ran out of brochures for FXT. Test drive vehicle i saw was still 2015 version, not the facelift 2016 version.

Went to MI today, crowded til there were no salesmen at the counter, only the receptionist. After checking out the FXT, wanted to ask salesman about the financing and all. Went to counter, saw 3 salesmen seated there using their hp and chatting, so went to ask receptionist again. She said no salesmen available, want a pricelist? I said i dont need price list cos already know the price, just need a salesman. But she said dont have. So we left. Wow, sales so good that they can choose not to entertain interested buyers.
FXT seemed popular with many checking it out. They also ran out of brochures for FXT. Test drive vehicle i saw was still 2015 version, not the facelift 2016 version.

Yes sales was very good last Sunday when I was there to buy. My agent was multi-tasking a few customers and took a while to complete the paperwork.

I went there few days ago at TPY . Not much people but still salesman no hiew me also . If not because of the forester / outback don't even feel like going in . Perhaps it's like what their Ah Huat says " Boss, you pay peanuts you get monkeys!" Dont know why this phase always appear whenever I step into a subaru showroom .

Ask around for good SE numbers and contact them directly if you eye certain models and wanna find out more.

Edited by evo171, 20 February 2016 - 09:59 PM.

Ask around for good SE numbers and contact them directly if you eye certain models and wanna find out more.

Haha i asked, but noone has any good ones to recommend.

I think there's one Michael quite good . He recognised me when I tested the Xt at Leng Kee a year ago . Met him at TPY showroom and I told him my car still have another one year and he still serve me and show me . The next few trip there recently never see him there

Rubbish. Improvements like better insulation , improved suspension cannot be optional. These should be basic part of the car. You guys have just been hoodwinked to make you guys feel good and not regret not waiting for the FL. I suggest you test drive the FL when it is available to see if there is any obvious difference.
The new owners workshop cannot be a session to make the new owners regret not waiting just a bit longer.
Anyway I am impressed that they arranged for a new owners workshop. Never heard of this with other ADs.

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well we unlikely to get JDM Bilsteins but more likely KYB suspensions...

but agree with the rest. only thing that was not optional in JDM XT was Eyesight but that's an overall decision not to bring it in even though we in Singapore can afford to pay for it....

Rubbish. Improvements like better insulation , improved suspension cannot be optional. These should be basic part of the car. You guys have just been hoodwinked to make you guys feel good and not regret not waiting for the FL. I suggest you test drive the FL when it is available to see if there is any obvious difference.
The new owners workshop cannot be a session to make the new owners regret not waiting just a bit longer.
Anyway I am impressed that they arranged for a new owners workshop. Never heard of this with other ADs.

I agree with this.

It's not going to be easy getting a special indent without thicker glass, improved suspension etc.

If that is so, then MI is really going out of their way to lower OMV but then these are not optional items like Eyesight.

Really makes so sense.

Was hoping they bring in the new NA engine. Looks like MI pays peanuts to get old engines, and we get the monkeys. Helping to clear stock for Subaru.

More like their Strategy la. To bring in the new engine will bring their OMV up. Then u got to fork out 50% down payment.

To me they got the sweet spot especially for the FXT. Big horsepower... OMV below $20K. For those concerned about how light the doors are.. well.. There are always the contis..

More like their Strategy la. To bring in the new engine will bring their OMV up. Then u got to fork out 50% down payment.

To me they got the sweet spot especially for the FXT. Big horsepower... OMV below $20K. For those concerned about how light the doors are.. well.. There are always the contis..

What is the diff in insurance premium between NA and XT ?

Was hoping they bring in the new NA engine. Looks like MI pays peanuts to get old engines, and we get the monkeys. Helping to clear stock for Subaru.

MI dealer premium excluding other profits like car loan etc. is more than the OMV.

The industry needs more players.

Edited by TurboAct, 21 February 2016 - 12:21 PM.

What is the diff in insurance premium between NA and XT ?
MI dealer premium excluding other profits like car loan etc. is more than the OMV.

The industry needs more players.

FL NA

Principal: SGD 55,400
COE: SGD 46,970
OMV: SGD 14,369
ARF: SGD 14,369
Other Taxes: SGD 6,466 Information
Premium: SGD 28,629

FL NA

Principal: SGD 55,400
COE: SGD 46,970
OMV: SGD 14,369
ARF: SGD 14,369
Other Taxes: SGD 6,466 Information
Premium: SGD 28,629

XT

Principal: SGD 60,900
COE: SGD 46,970
OMV: SGD 17,733
ARF: SGD 17,733
Other Taxes: SGD 7,674
Premium: SGD 31,690

Haha i asked, but noone has any good ones to recommend.

I don dare intro my se to you all... After sale close them sms thing he like Ai Mai Ai Mai reply damm piss

I don dare intro my se to you all... After sale close them sms thing he like Ai Mai Ai Mai reply damm piss

At least tell us who this one so we can avoid

I don dare intro my se to you all... After sale close them sms thing he like Ai Mai Ai Mai reply damm piss

Please PM me the name so i can avoid..haha

can always call Ah Huat

Not nice put the name here... They also earn living

Not nice put the name here... They also earn living

Ah Seng and ah Huat can call la. If not can their boss Ah Puay!

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Principal: SGD 60,900
COE: SGD 46,970
OMV: SGD 17,733
ARF: SGD 17,733
Other Taxes: SGD 7,674
Premium: SGD 31,690

Gone are the days when they used to make 10k or lesser.. My car bought in 2009 with an omv of 15k and Coe 11k only cost 50k.

98432223 Timothy. Sastify his service. Donno after sale service bcoz not collect car yet. First visit on Aug 2015, he ask for my hp no and updated me the latest price until Feb 2016 when i booked XT from him. His the only SE to do so as some other brands SE didn't hiew me at all.

... Subaru is able to manufacture such a high quality product cheaply? �why can they do so when other makes can't do it?

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Bloomberg articles to explain why:

http://www.bloomberg...any-in-the-u-s-

http://www.bloomberg...-to-stay-small-

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Its products are selling well (all sold out or sells out in the article above).

So it is running at full capacity and so has little waste in capacity which makes costs per unit cheaper.

It reuses its design and parts across its models and generations - perhaps, even better than Volkswagen which is the supposed leader in this - and achieves high economy of scale.

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Also, MI is agent for Subaru for much of Asia (SEA, Taiwan, HK, most of China?) so can bargain for low import prices from Subaru.
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Bloomberg articles to explain why:
http://www.bloomberg...any-in-the-u-s-
http://www.bloomberg...-to-stay-small-

Its products are selling well (all sold out or sells out in the article above).
So it is running at full capacity and so has little waste in capacity which makes costs per unit cheaper.
It reuses its design and parts across its models and generations - perhaps, even better than Volkswagen which is the supposed leader in this - and achieves high economy of scale.

Also, MI is agent for Subaru for much of Asia (SEA, Taiwan, HK, most of China?) so can bargain for low import prices from Subaru.

Yeah MI get it cheap.

So the dealer premium is almost double the OMV !!!

Plus servicing profit and rest...wow wow

Edited by TurboAct, 22 February 2016 - 03:02 PM.

Hi Forester owners,

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For those that took up their in-house Autotint, does it include the sunroof and all the small windows?�

How is their workmanship? OK?

Hi Forester owners,

For those that took up their in-house Autotint, does it include the sunroof and all the small windows?
How is their workmanship? OK?

No sunroof. Small windows yes. Not sure how you rate workmanship but no bubbles or seams after 6mths.

BUT the film sucks. Period!
Got solar film machiam no film. Do yourself a favor and opt out from the film. You get 50buck rebate but seriously that how much I think the film is worth. Squeeze for more discount and Go outside do a good one!

Anyone knows where to get the matte black grilles for the 2016xt from?�

Yeah MI get it cheap.

So the dealer premium is almost double the OMV !!!

Plus servicing profit and rest...wow wow

If you are so worry about the high profit margin of the AD here, then if should just not buying any car here.
Since we cannot change any things about this facts here. We should just buy the car we can afford and like most and start enjoying it....

Edited by Tohto, 22 February 2016 - 07:33 PM.

Yeah MI get it cheap.

So the dealer premium is almost double the OMV !!!

Plus servicing profit and rest...wow wow

Your alternative to not letting MI earn so much is to self import. That way, you can get all the new features and also eye sight but Jap words everywhere. I explored that route, but the cost is much higher to self import so Mi must have done a very good job to negotiate a low price and low specs.

Bottom line is willing buyer willing seller. MI caters for a certain market segment. If you do not fit that segment, then you can either manage expectations or get another car.

Yeah MI get it cheap.

So the dealer premium is almost double the OMV !!!

Plus servicing profit and rest...wow wow

I hope you are not choosing car based on AD's profit margin, otherwise there's no ending and no meaning. Don't buy car at all and go for public transport and you will be happier

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Thứ Năm, 29 tháng 12, 2016

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