Thứ Năm, 29 tháng 12, 2016

2015 Forester 2.0 part 19

  • 06 January 2016 - 10:16 PM
    Sicko

    Went Test drove FXT this morning. Like the drive and pretty confirm to buy this. However, current model left one bronze color and no more coming in. New FL still pending LTA approval. Saw the FL NA, the lights looks good. Some upgrade on interior panels to make it look more premium.

    I went down earlier this evening as well. Had a look at the behind curtains FL NA, minimal difference from the current version. Only difference is the rims, headlight, front grille and gear knob area. XV totally disappear from the showroom. SE mentioned XV should be launch next week at motorshow but no confirmation on forester launch.
  • 06 January 2016 - 11:01 PM
    Redfur

    I went down earlier this evening as well. Had a look at the behind curtains FL NA, minimal difference from the current version. Only difference is the rims, headlight, front grille and gear knob area. XV totally disappear from the showroom. SE mentioned XV should be launch next week at motorshow but no confirmation on forester launch.

    The headlights itself looks so much better. But to change the current model headlight to�this�aftermarket version looks just as good. In SG, HID or LED is still overkill and whichever is also good enough for Malaysia too.

    Changes to the engine and transmission and suspension should be included.

    No way there will be eyesight function in SG. �


  • 06 January 2016 - 11:06 PM
    Cosmicclaw

    I went down earlier this evening as well. Had a look at the behind curtains FL NA, minimal difference from the current version. Only difference is the rims, headlight, front grille and gear knob area. XV totally disappear from the showroom. SE mentioned XV should be launch next week at motorshow but no confirmation on forester launch.

    Is there a new facelift for XV? Its already been selling for a while, Why launch at Motor Show?


  • 06 January 2016 - 11:15 PM
    sunnymonk

    The headlights itself looks so much better. But to change the current model headlight to�this�aftermarket version looks just as good. In SG, HID or LED is still overkill and whichever is also good enough for Malaysia too.

    Changes to the engine and transmission and suspension should be included.

    No way there will be eyesight function in SG. �

    I'm more curious about the engine and transmission changes if any will be carried over from JDM to our SG model.

    The rest are mostly cosmetic but it does look a bit nicer.

    That's why I'm waiting and waiting.


  • 06 January 2016 - 11:17 PM
    Redfur

    Is there a new facelift for XV? Its already been selling for a while, Why launch at Motor Show?

    Yes, there is a new facelift. Same as forester stuff mainly cosmetic like LED headlight, instrument panel and the updated steering wheel. �No mechanical changes like forester though.

    http://www.subaru-gl...com/2016xv.html


  • 07 January 2016 - 02:03 AM
    Idaddy88
    Any kind bros can take some pics of the FLversion and post here? Hee..
  • 07 January 2016 - 08:25 AM
    Sicko

    Is there a new facelift for XV? Its already been selling for a while, Why launch at Motor Show?

    Yes. I think there is a new FL for XV as well. The current version is already remove from Leng Kee showroom. Thailand launch new XV already. And SE mentioned SG should be launching theirs next weekend.

    http://www.9tro.com/...thailand-launch

    Now my options remains as XV or Forester. Still have time to wait and monitor COE which i believe would rise for next 2 bids and come down mid year.
  • 07 January 2016 - 08:31 AM
    sunnymonk

    Any kind bros can take some pics of the FLversion and post here? Hee..

    This site does pretty well explain the new things and also there are some photos.

    http://www.topspeed....r-ar171408.html

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    Edited by sunnymonk, 07 January 2016 - 08:34 AM.

  • 07 January 2016 - 09:05 AM
    sunnymonk
    Sorry I don't mean to double post but I can't edit my earlier post.

    Here's another pic.
    Hope I don't get my SE in trouble.

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    Edited by sunnymonk, 07 January 2016 - 09:08 AM.

  • 07 January 2016 - 10:12 AM
    Djcoolmax

    reading through the specs... not many of the Safety Aids will reach our shoes IMO.

    Subaru�s EyeSight suite and include Active Lane Keep, Pre-Collision Braking Control, Adaptive Cruise Control, Blind-Spot Detection, Lane Change Assist and Rear-Cross-Traffic Alert.�

    Probably only Blind-Spot detection.... seeing how MI likes to keep the OMV low.


  • 07 January 2016 - 10:18 PM
    Sarion

    Bks has been around for ages. Pro subaru wkshop. Not sure of the charges now but should be 700-800 plus for timing belt change


    Should be more close to 1k+ instead when you have all the other consumables change. Goto Woodlands one if you unfortable about AMK review. Boss is Ah Keong.
  • 08 January 2016 - 12:44 PM
    evo171
    Comparing current and previous px list FXT price remains while NA drops $2k. Difference between the two models is $11k now.

    Maybe clearing the remaining NA for the FL to come in soon?
  • 08 January 2016 - 03:08 PM
    Sent

    Collecting car soon, is there a group for Subaru Forester that I can join?


  • 08 January 2016 - 05:33 PM
    3366

    Hi , any one can advise if the black edition package for XT worth the 5 k? what exactly is in the package?�


    Edited by 3366, 08 January 2016 - 05:36 PM.

  • 08 January 2016 - 05:38 PM
    Sicko
    Not worth 5K imho. Just additional accessories.
  • 08 January 2016 - 06:33 PM
    3366

    Not worth 5K imho. Just additional accessories.

    �what does it come with ? anyone happen to own one or have photos of the black edition??�

    Thank you� decided on the XT , �really excited hopefully new facelift come out asap.:)


  • 08 January 2016 - 07:17 PM
    evo171

    what does it come with ? anyone happen to own one or have photos of the black edition??
    Thank you� decided on the XT , really excited hopefully new facelift come out asap.:)

    What I can remember:
    Black front grille
    STI Front bumper lip
    STI rear bumper lip
    STI gear knob
    Special leather seat
    Black/red floor mat
    Boot door base plate
    Carbon fibre plate styling interior
    Not sure if have STI struct bar or not (HK black edition have).
  • 08 January 2016 - 07:44 PM
    Mkl22
    Remembered the black edition was 8k more initially. It then dropped to the 5k premium now. I would gather that the response is still poor. Perhaps at a 3k premium they would move more units.
  • 08 January 2016 - 07:58 PM
    JustGoodTrades

    Remembered the black edition was 8k more initially. It then dropped to the 5k premium now. I would gather that the response is still poor. Perhaps at a 3k premium they would move more units.


    They should, if they need to clear. 2-3k sounds more reasonable.
  • 08 January 2016 - 09:36 PM
    3366

    thanks for the reply and advice :)


  • 09 January 2016 - 12:17 AM
    Redfur

    You can order all or most of those cosmetic parts on japanparts.com or US sites selling subaru OEM stuff and it would be cheaper.Most are easy to install DIY or just get a workshop to install.


  • 09 January 2016 - 01:39 PM
    3366

    You can order all or most of those cosmetic parts on japanparts.com or US sites selling subaru OEM stuff and it would be cheaper.Most are easy to install DIY or just get a workshop to install.

    Thanks for the direction.

    You can order all or most of those cosmetic parts on japanparts.com or US sites selling subaru OEM stuff and it would be cheaper.Most are easy to install DIY or just get a workshop to install.

    Thanks for the direction.
  • 11 January 2016 - 07:42 AM
    firdy05
    Received my black edition last Wenesday evening and am enjoying my ride. World of a different from my previous 8 year old Altis.
  • 11 January 2016 - 08:14 AM
    Cboonh

    Received my black edition last Wenesday evening and am enjoying my ride. World of a different from my previous 8 year old Altis.

    Congrats! Have fun, join us in the forester chat grp!
  • 11 January 2016 - 08:58 AM
    jg2000

    Received my black edition last Wenesday evening and am enjoying my ride. World of a different from my previous 8 year old Altis.

    Check the tyre pressure.� They usually way over-pressure for new car.

    If you get it back down to the recommended pressure (as in the manual or the door pillar sticker), you will enjoy the ride even more (even more comfortable suspension and better driving control).


    Edited by jg2000, 11 January 2016 - 08:59 AM.

  • 11 January 2016 - 09:34 AM
    siausin

    Received my black edition last Wenesday evening and am enjoying my ride. World of a different from my previous 8 year old Altis.

    Congratulation! Black edition is cool. I'm waiting for my XT to be delivered before CNY can drive home to Malaysia in new car
  • 11 January 2016 - 02:56 PM
    Undertaker_s
    Want to get a XT but no stock now. Need to wait till end of Feb or Mar for the facelift to come in. :/
  • 11 January 2016 - 03:01 PM
    Hamburger

    i must be the few lucky ones among bros here.

    i see, i like, i buy.

    She sit.�

    The End.


  • 11 January 2016 - 03:13 PM
    Mkl22

    i must be the few lucky ones among bros here.

    i see, i like, i buy.

    She sit.�

    The End.

    you paid for everything right?


  • 11 January 2016 - 03:22 PM
    Columbian78

    haha, same for me. But face colour may change sometimes.

    i must be the few lucky ones among bros here.

    i see, i like, i buy.

    She sit.�

    The End.


  • 11 January 2016 - 03:37 PM
    Hamburger

    you paid for everything right?

    any difference?


  • 11 January 2016 - 03:39 PM
    Mkl22

    any difference?

    of course. she contribute some sure want to have some say


  • 11 January 2016 - 03:50 PM
    Yeshe

    In the ideal world, every car should have

    • 1000bhp
    • 1000Nm torque from 1000 rpm - 9000 rpm
    • As quiet as a Lexus,
    • As beautiful as (Fill the design of the car you like)
    • FC more 23km/l
    • Spacious
    • Good Handling
    • Large boot
    • etc, etc

    But it will probably cost $99,999,999. Design is always about compromises. They start with a price bracket and then decide what are the important elements a car should have, then they include these elements with design.

    If you are looking at forester XT, it is a little tiny weeny bit silly to be worried about FC and noise. That is not what Forester XT is about.

    Power and Good FC are sworn enemies. They will never be seen at the same place.
    There are such car, just that it's not available to us yet. Tesla
  • 11 January 2016 - 03:53 PM
    cmdsea

    Just heard from SE. Collect on friday.... Yay.!


  • 11 January 2016 - 03:53 PM
    Yeshe
    Does the new Forester come in sti version?
  • 11 January 2016 - 04:44 PM
    Tohto

    Does the new Forester come in sti version?

    Yes, but MI did not bring in..


  • 11 January 2016 - 05:51 PM
    evo171

    Congrats! Have fun, join us in the forester chat grp!

    Where is this chat group?
  • 11 January 2016 - 06:48 PM
    firdy05

    Where is this chat group?

    I assume bro is referring to the WhatsApp group
  • 11 January 2016 - 07:35 PM
    Yeshe

    Yes, but MI did not bring in..

    so if wanna PI, most likely have to undergo LTA approval n inspection?


  • 11 January 2016 - 09:50 PM
    firdy05

    Check the tyre pressure.� They usually way over-pressure for new car.

    If you get it back down to the recommended pressure (as in the manual or the door pillar sticker), you will enjoy the ride even more (even more comfortable suspension and better driving control).

    Yes....i realised that too...kinda hard ride now...will check...thanks..

    At the same time..trying to get used to the stare for this Black edition...lol


  • 11 January 2016 - 10:49 PM
    Sarion

    so if wanna PI, most likely have to undergo LTA approval n inspection?

    there's only like limited 300units if I remember correctly, you can't win from the JDM market unless you have really really deep pockets...

    but if that's the case, probably just get a Macan or GLC...


  • 12 January 2016 - 09:02 AM
    Redfur

    Received my black edition last Wenesday evening and am enjoying my ride. World of a different from my previous 8 year old Altis.

    Since you got black edition, might as well complete the car with a WRX STI steering wheel that will fit the XT forester non- facelift version.

    2 parts to order:

    http://subaruonlinep...ade-p-4078.html

    �POISON POISON !!

    34312va020vh%203_zpsbba3ecsr.jpgFORRSTRUPGRD_zpsicylqspt.jpg34312va020vh%204_zps5orafmuq.jpg


  • 12 January 2016 - 12:45 PM
    evo171
    OT abit, which other sites or shops to look into for genuine Subaru/STI accessories?
  • 12 January 2016 - 01:35 PM
    Redfur

    OT abit, which other sites or shops to look into for genuine Subaru/STI accessories?

    Mainly, for JDM and STI its only japanparts.com. For non-STI subaru stuff, its subaruonlineparts.com or www.subarupartsforyou.com.

    Google "OEM subaru parts" may give you more options. You can also try Rakuten here http://search.rakute...p=2&grp=product

    enjoy!�


  • 12 January 2016 - 01:42 PM
    Sicko
    Wondering if any guys here have made booking for the new FL XT already and what is the offer from SE
  • 12 January 2016 - 02:27 PM
    Tohto

    Wondering if any guys here have made booking for the new FL XT already and what is the offer from SE

    I think is not available for sale yet.

    I am also waiting for it.


  • 12 January 2016 - 02:56 PM
    Sicko

    I think is not available for sale yet.
    I am also waiting for it.

    Can book already. I was offered 124800 by SE with 3 free servicing, in car monitor, solar film. And very little details about new FL version. Very standard package hence asking around here.
  • 12 January 2016 - 03:08 PM
    Tohto

    Can book already. I was offered 124800 by SE with 3 free servicing, in car monitor, solar film. And very little details about new FL version. Very standard package hence asking around here.

    I just check with my SE and he mention still waiting for LTA approval.

    Since I expect COE to drop further after CNY, I must well wait.


  • 12 January 2016 - 03:12 PM
    Sicko
    Hmmm....different standards from different SE. Anyway, i expect the drop as well after clearing the motorshow orders. Time is still on my side. 11 more months before scrap.
  • 12 January 2016 - 04:40 PM
    evo171

    Can book already. I was offered 124800 by SE with 3 free servicing, in car monitor, solar film. And very little details about new FL version. Very standard package hence asking around here.

    Is it for FL NA or XT? If NA then its like $9k premium over current NA listed px? If XT then same as listed.
  • 12 January 2016 - 04:49 PM
    Xefera

    Is it for FL NA or XT? If NA then its like $9k premium over current NA listed px? If XT then same as listed.

    my guess is its the NA price. there should normally be a premium for newer models


  • 12 January 2016 - 05:24 PM
    Redfur
    Should be for xt version. In other countries, it's only few hundred more but with eyesight as well. If it's NA at 9k premium, no way it will sell. Might as well buy outback.
  • 12 January 2016 - 05:38 PM
    Mkl22

    Should be for xt version. In other countries, it's only few hundred more but with eyesight as well. If it's NA at 9k premium, no way it will sell. Might as well buy outback.

    comes with� eyesight? really?


  • 12 January 2016 - 05:51 PM
    evo171

    comes with eyesight? really?

    Probably not. We in Singapore, not other countries. :p
  • 12 January 2016 - 07:40 PM
    Tohto
    I was told that the facelift FXT OMV will still be below $20k.
    So I don't expect the price to go too big different at the same for level.
  • 12 January 2016 - 09:03 PM
    firdy05

    After getting the my Black Edition XT, last Wednesday evening and topping up to full tank the same day. I am left with a single bar this Tuesday evening. Managed 455km at 10l per 100km average consumption. So top up another 50l. Just wondering most probably that is the norm?


    Since you got black edition, might as well complete the car with a WRX STI steering wheel that will fit the XT forester non- facelift version.

    2 parts to order:

    http://subaruonlinep...ade-p-4078.html

    �POISON POISON !!

    34312va020vh%203_zpsbba3ecsr.jpgFORRSTRUPGRD_zpsicylqspt.jpg34312va020vh%204_zps5orafmuq.jpg

    Hmm this might look familiar .....


  • 12 January 2016 - 10:13 PM
    Sicko

    my guess is its the NA price. there should normally be a premium for newer models

    It is for XT. At $124800.
  • 12 January 2016 - 11:54 PM
    Wondertree

    my guess is its the NA price. there should normally be a premium for newer models

    If it's NA I can't see any reason not getting the Harrier at 10k higher in price but also 15k higher in omv..


  • 13 January 2016 - 02:14 AM
    Redfur

    If it's NA I can't see any reason not getting the Harrier at 10k higher in price but also 15k higher in omv..

    Yup, no reason not to get a harrier if that fit your needs. I look at XT for subaru's 4WD off road capability and technology cos i need to drive up to rural areas in MY without proper roads.

    Combined with the right size, best handling and power at this price, i dun have much options. Also, being a subaru its less likely to get stolen in MY. Top ten list of cars that got stolen are all the proton models followed by Toyota and Honda (Reported in Media). Harrier top their fav 'to steal suv' list. (Hearsay by fellow Msians)

    I never really went deep into understanding so don't quote me on this. i sort of learned that, higher OMV will means you are actually incurring interest on the loan to pay for the higher OMV because selling price will be higher for a higher OMV car. And, unless u looking to scrap the car after 10 years, it is interest paid for nothing. If you sell your car after 3 years, it would mean you paid 3 years of interest on that extra $10,000 price. The resale value of your car is largely determined by the future COE price and the price of the brand new same model when you sell, not base on the time when you bought. So in a way, OMV matter more if you want to use the car for 10 years, but not so much if you looking to sell within few years.


  • 13 January 2016 - 02:41 PM
    Rayoflight

    Anyone can recommend me a Subaru SE? :D


  • 13 January 2016 - 02:44 PM
    Wondertree

    Yup, no reason not to get a harrier if that fit your needs. I look at XT for subaru's 4WD off road capability and technology cos i need to drive up to rural areas in MY without proper roads.

    Combined with the right size, best handling and power at this price, i dun have much options. Also, being a subaru its less likely to get stolen in MY. Top ten list of cars that got stolen are all the proton models followed by Toyota and Honda (Reported in Media). Harrier top their fav 'to steal suv' list. (Hearsay by fellow Msians)

    I never really went deep into understanding so don't quote me on this. i sort of learned that, higher OMV will means you are actually incurring interest on the loan to pay for the higher OMV because selling price will be higher for a higher OMV car. And, unless u looking to scrap the car after 10 years, it is interest paid for nothing. If you sell your car after 3 years, it would mean you paid 3 years of interest on that extra $10,000 price. The resale value of your car is largely determined by the future COE price and the price of the brand new same model when you sell, not base on the time when you bought. So in a way, OMV matter more if you want to use the car for 10 years, but not so much if you looking to sell within few years.

    I don't deny at all that getting Harrier costs you more than Frosty NA, but the exact one important factor missing from your analysis is that you would be driving a better car at marginally higher price. Better trim, more spacious, less thirsty.


  • 13 January 2016 - 03:16 PM
    Tohto

    Anyone can recommend me a Subaru SE? :D

    Your 316i do until so nice, you want to change ah?� [shocked]


  • 13 January 2016 - 03:31 PM
    siausin
    Forester 2016 new face-lift video. Nice little changes in head and tail lights.


    https://youtu.be/UYvXe3JTLO0
  • 13 January 2016 - 04:18 PM
    Rayoflight

    Your 316i do until so nice, you want to change ah? [shocked]

    Looking around .. Itchy backside haha

    New touran also coming.. See whether nice anot.. Haha
  • 13 January 2016 - 08:01 PM
    Chucky2007

    I don't deny at all that getting Harrier costs you more than Frosty NA, but the exact one important factor missing from your analysis is that you would be driving a better car at marginally higher price. Better trim, more spacious, less thirsty.

    Eh..10-15k more is comparing Forester XT to Harrier.. if it's FNA, it's easily 20-25k more.

    I agree with less thirty aspect because it's a front wheel drive vs AWD.

    Trim wise depends individually.. before buying the forester, I was told the interior of the Harrier is so good.. I went to view the basic without sun roof and the premium with sun roof and not impressed at the aspect of trim, it's not bad but I wouldn't buy the Harrier because of its interior (you know some cars the interior is so good can overlook other factors).. maybe because considered many factors in, and also viewed quite a number of other SUV.

    Space wise, both fotester and Harrier are similar actually.

    Side track also, got a friend who got harrier and drove to KL last week. Told me at constant depressing of the accelerator, when the Harrier hit 130km/hr, lost the torque and speed came down to 120-110.. no high end torque.. he really look disappointed. But of course city driving absolutely no issue and pleasant to drive the Harrier.

    For Forester XT.. at 160 still accelerating without fully depressing pedal.
  • 13 January 2016 - 08:32 PM
    Wondertree

    Eh..10-15k more is comparing Forester XT to Harrier.. if it's FNA, it's easily 20-25k more.

    I agree with less thirty aspect because it's a front wheel drive vs AWD.

    Trim wise depends individually.. before buying the forester, I was told the interior of the Harrier is so good.. I went to view the basic without sun roof and the premium with sun roof and not impressed at the aspect of trim, it's not bad but I wouldn't buy the Harrier because of its interior (you know some cars the interior is so good can overlook other factors).. maybe because considered many factors in, and also viewed quite a number of other SUV.

    Space wise, both fotester and Harrier are similar actually.

    Side track also, got a friend who got harrier and drove to KL last week. Told me at constant depressing of the accelerator, when the Harrier hit 130km/hr, lost the torque and speed came down to 120-110.. no high end torque.. he really look disappointed. But of course city driving absolutely no issue and pleasant to drive the Harrier.

    For Forester XT.. at 160 still accelerating without fully depressing pedal.

    I was quoting when someone mentioned FL NA is going to cost $125k. At $110k it's a hell of an SUV, not so when it becomes 15k more ex.


  • 13 January 2016 - 08:37 PM
    Chucky2007

    I was quoting when someone mentioned FL NA is going to cost $125k. At $110k it's a hell of an SUV, not so when it becomes 15k more ex.

    No la.. NA version I think it's around 113k. It's like 25-30k cheaper than the lowest specs Harrier while forester NA specs is not shaddy at all, big sun roof, electric seat etc..
  • 14 January 2016 - 12:29 AM
    Seenlife

    Relative to the compact crossovers like Vezel and Qashqai, the NA Forester $113,800 is now $7k-$12k more compared to a gap of only $3k-$8k due to CAT A COE drop of $9k.�

    MI will be foolish (but likely) to launch the MY2016 Forester too much of a price premium at the Motorshow considering that the 7-seater SUVs like Outlander and X-Trail is now $124k-$130k. The FXT is good value if it stays at $124,800 but still has only 5 seats at the end of the day.

    Heard that the headlights and tailights will both be LEDs with DRL in the fog light housing but otherwise no major equipment changes. The $2k-$3k trading margin probably still applies for those considering the Forester.

    Torn between getting the Forester or the more practical Wish/Outlander now although the new Touran looks interesting too...if only the Exiga is available in SG!� [crazy]



  • 14 January 2016 - 12:48 AM
    Vinceng

    Eh..10-15k more is comparing Forester XT to Harrier.. if it's FNA, it's easily 20-25k more.

    I agree with less thirty aspect because it's a front wheel drive vs AWD.

    Trim wise depends individually.. before buying the forester, I was told the interior of the Harrier is so good.. I went to view the basic without sun roof and the premium with sun roof and not impressed at the aspect of trim, it's not bad but I wouldn't buy the Harrier because of its interior (you know some cars the interior is so good can overlook other factors).. maybe because considered many factors in, and also viewed quite a number of other SUV.

    Space wise, both fotester and Harrier are similar actually.

    Side track also, got a friend who got harrier and drove to KL last week. Told me at constant depressing of the accelerator, when the Harrier hit 130km/hr, lost the torque and speed came down to 120-110.. no high end torque.. he really look disappointed. But of course city driving absolutely no issue and pleasant to drive the Harrier.

    For Forester XT.. at 160 still accelerating without fully depressing pedal.


    Forester XT should have no problem to achieve such high speed .

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  • 14 January 2016 - 12:59 AM
    Vinceng
    [quote name="Seenlife" post="5696622" timestamp="1452702545"]
    Relative to the compact crossovers like Vezel and Qashqai, the NA Forester $113,800 is now $7k-$12k more compared to a gap of only $3k-$8k due to CAT A COE drop of $9k.

    MI will be foolish (but likely) to launch the MY2016 Forester too much of a price premium at the Motorshow considering that the 7-seater SUVs like Outlander and X-Trail is now $124k-$130k. The FXT is good value if it stays at $124,800 but still has only 5 seats at the end of the day.

    Heard that the headlights and tailights will both be LEDs with DRL in the fog light housing but otherwise no major equipment changes. The $2k-$3k trading margin probably still applies for those considering the Forester.

    Torn between getting the Forester or the more practical Wish/Outlander now although the new Touran looks interesting too...if only the Exiga is available in SG! [crazy]
    [\quote]

    ��++++++++++(++++++�+++++++

    If you need a genuine 7 seater that can accommodate 7 adults, at your kind of budget, it's got to be the Mazda 5.

    The 7 seaters you are looking at, the last row seat fits children best. Would be a squeeze for adults.

    Edited by Vinceng, 14 January 2016 - 01:04 AM.

  • 14 January 2016 - 08:39 AM
    Tohto

    Relative to the compact crossovers like Vezel and Qashqai, the NA Forester $113,800 is now $7k-$12k more compared to a gap of only $3k-$8k due to CAT A COE drop of $9k.�

    MI will be foolish (but likely) to launch the MY2016 Forester too much of a price premium at the Motorshow considering that the 7-seater SUVs like Outlander and X-Trail is now $124k-$130k. The FXT is good value if it stays at $124,800 but still has only 5 seats at the end of the day.

    Heard that the headlights and tailights will both be LEDs with DRL in the fog light housing but otherwise no major equipment changes. The $2k-$3k trading margin probably still applies for those considering the Forester.

    Torn between getting the Forester or the more practical Wish/Outlander now although the new Touran looks interesting too...if only the Exiga is available in SG!� [crazy]

    Not every buyer want the 7 seat lah.

    For me the 5 seat is good for me.�

    Even for the X Trial, the 3rd row are so squeeze...�

    Most of the buyer who bought the Forester XT are due to the performance. Including me waiting at the sideline.

    I originally target the Harrier, after test drive FXT. What I want is very clear� :grin:


    Edited by Tohto, 14 January 2016 - 08:51 AM.

  • 14 January 2016 - 09:03 AM
    Chucky2007

    Relative to the compact crossovers like Vezel and Qashqai, the NA Forester $113,800 is now $7k-$12k more compared to a gap of only $3k-$8k due to CAT A COE drop of $9k.

    MI will be foolish (but likely) to launch the MY2016 Forester too much of a price premium at the Motorshow considering that the 7-seater SUVs like Outlander and X-Trail is now $124k-$130k. The FXT is good value if it stays at $124,800 but still has only 5 seats at the end of the day.

    Heard that the headlights and tailights will both be LEDs with DRL in the fog light housing but otherwise no major equipment changes. The $2k-$3k trading margin probably still applies for those considering the Forester.

    Torn between getting the Forester or the more practical Wish/Outlander now although the new Touran looks interesting too...if only the Exiga is available in SG! [crazy]


    If you need 7 seater most of the time.. wish is needed, Outlander a little tight on row3, but still can. But if really seldom utilise full vehicle for 7 pax on daily basis.. reconsider Outlander. . The FC think quite fierce..

    VW Torran?? 1.4T? Reconsider that man..

    Forester XT should have no problem to achieve such high speed .

    Highest I went was 200km/hr.. because got cars in front on NSHW so slowed back to 130. But above 200 to around 210-220 should be ok

    Not every buyer want the 7 seat lah.
    For me the 5 seat is good for me.
    Even for the X Trial, the 3rd row are so squeeze...

    Most of the buyer who bought the Forester XT are due to the performance. Including me waiting at the sideline.
    I originally target the Harrier, after test drive FXT. What I want is very clear :grin:

    If PI ever give u a chance to test drive Harrier on NSHW. . The choice even clearer..

    My friend's disappoint face after driving back from KL in his new Harrier looks really...disappointed

    Edited by Chucky2007, 14 January 2016 - 09:05 AM.

  • 14 January 2016 - 11:09 AM
    Djcoolmax

    News for Forester and XV owners.

    http://jalopnik.com/...cars-1752805682

    defective piston rings caused them to burn extra oil, and that Subaru knew of the problem.
    affected FB engines are the 2.5-liter engines in the 2011-2014 Forester, 2013 Legacy and 2013 Outback and the 2.0-liter engines in the 2012-2013 Impreza and 2013 XV Crosstrek.


    Edited by Djcoolmax, 14 January 2016 - 11:10 AM.

  • 14 January 2016 - 11:12 AM
    cmdsea

    News for Forester and XV owners.

    http://jalopnik.com/...cars-1752805682

    "affected FB engines are the 2.5-liter engines in the 2011-2014 Forester, 2013 Legacy and 2013 Outback and the 2.0-liter engines in the 2012-2013 Impreza and 2013 XV Crosstrek".

    These engines arent used in the Singapore Forester or XV so not an issue for local owners. Might be relevant to Outback or Legacy drivers though...


  • 14 January 2016 - 09:14 PM
    Mkl22

    News for Forester and XV owners.

    http://jalopnik.com/...cars-1752805682

    The forester here are not affected. There is no 2.5. For xv there is only the small number of 2.0 which MI Sold. Not sure of the production year that MI Brought in
  • 14 January 2016 - 10:39 PM
    Sarion
    Does anyone know if the new forester is displayed at the Singapore motor show? Cant get any info searching on the web...
  • 14 January 2016 - 11:01 PM
    sunnymonk

    Does anyone know if the new forester is displayed at the Singapore motor show? Cant get any info searching on the web...

    The new XT is not because it's not approved by LTA.

    I can't remember if the NA was there cos I didn't go look for it.

    But the pricelist remains the same and the old photos are used. My SE told me LTA don't allow them to show or bring new FL to Motorshow without approval.


  • 15 January 2016 - 05:16 PM
    Xefera

    spoke to one of the SEs at the motorshow that the FL XT will have the following

    - new rims design

    - memory seats

    - headlights/taillights changes

    - bi-xenon adaptive headlamps

    - slightly bigger centre console screen

    no eyesight and instrument cluster still the same as current outgoing model


  • 16 January 2016 - 10:13 AM
    Xefera

    spoke to one of the SEs at the motorshow that the FL XT will have the following

    - new rims design

    - memory seats

    - headlights/taillights changes

    - bi-xenon adaptive headlamps

    - slightly bigger centre console screen

    no eyesight and instrument cluster still the same as current outgoing model

    And also SE estimate price premium over outgoing model is about $5k.

    don't know true or not but indeed tempting for prospective buyers.


  • 16 January 2016 - 11:39 AM
    BenTong

    And also SE estimate price premium over outgoing model is about $5k.
    don't know true or not but indeed tempting for prospective buyers.

    $5K extra for that? Sales talk 101. Just like when they launch the current XV variant. $8k premium.. Within 2 mths price drop to previous variant despite increase in COE. Just wait for a few months..
  • 17 January 2016 - 03:53 PM
    sunnymonk

    $5K extra for that? Sales talk 101. Just like when they launch the current XV variant. $8k premium.. Within 2 mths price drop to previous variant despite increase in COE. Just wait for a few months..

    Latest news from my SE is price remains 124,800. They are allowed to take bookings now. I'm still thinking about it.. As my ride expires only in 01/2019 and it's more of an itchy backside now rather than real need to change..
  • 17 January 2016 - 04:00 PM
    BenTong

    Latest news from my SE is price remains 124,800. They are allowed to take bookings now. I'm still thinking about it.. As my ride expires only in 01/2019 and it's more of an itchy backside now rather than real need to change..

    Am waiting for COE to go down.hee Hee. Anyway MI standard is $3K off the list price. And another $1k for non guaranteed.

    My sensing they will bring it down by $3K the next round.
  • 20 January 2016 - 10:52 PM
    Vinceng

    Am waiting for COE to go down.hee Hee. Anyway MI standard is $3K off the list price. And another $1k for non guaranteed.

    My sensing they will bring it down by $3K the next round.


    You might be correct.

    Cat B Dropped $5K today to all time low of S$50 K.

    List price may drop $3K to $110K. Minus $3K off list price + $1K off for non guaranteed COE = $106K.

    Forester, here I come!
  • 20 January 2016 - 11:09 PM
    BenTong

    You might be correct.

    Cat B Dropped $5K today to all time low of S$50 K.

    List price may drop $3K to $110K. Minus $3K off list price + $1K off for non guaranteed COE = $106K.

    Forester, here I come!

    Think can wait till March. Suspect COE Cat b may go down by another $7-8K. N MI may also throw in service n Maintenace pack
  • 20 January 2016 - 11:16 PM
    Vinceng
    Even at $110 K, plus the higher OMV, makes more sense to get a Japan made Forester than a Thairolla Altis.
  • 21 January 2016 - 05:28 PM
    Sicko

    Think can wait till March. Suspect COE Cat b may go down by another $7-8K. N MI may also throw in service n Maintenace pack

    Wow, is that insider news? Service and maintenance package sounds delicious.
  • 21 January 2016 - 05:33 PM
    BenTong

    Wow, is that insider news? Service and maintenance package sounds delicious.

    They got in a big container of stock. If you look at Cat B bid vs available COE this round you will know why. Demand is weak and actually will be lesser than what will be available in Feb.

    Think lots of ppl (Cat B types) could be holding back buying new cars or are going for Cat A.

    MI may want to offer ppl sweeteners to come in and help them move their Cat B cars
  • 21 January 2016 - 06:07 PM
    Sicko

    They got in a big container of stock. If you look at Cat B bid vs available COE this round you will know why. Demand is weak and actually will be lesser than what will be available in Feb.

    Think lots of ppl (Cat B types) could be holding back buying new cars or are going for Cat A.

    MI may want to offer ppl sweeteners to come in and help them move their Cat B cars

    Where is this big container manz? Anyway i am one of the guys waiting for sweetener and most importantly COE to drop. Most likely will buy in June..but after the coe results yesterday, seems like end year will be cheaper.

    I am just another cheapo who wants to wait for low low coe ...

    They got in a big container of stock. If you look at Cat B bid vs available COE this round you will know why. Demand is weak and actually will be lesser than what will be available in Feb.

    Think lots of ppl (Cat B types) could be holding back buying new cars or are going for Cat A.

    MI may want to offer ppl sweeteners to come in and help them move their Cat B cars

    Where is this big container manz? Anyway i am one of the guys waiting for sweetener and most importantly COE to drop. Most likely will buy in June..but after the coe results yesterday, seems like end year will be cheaper.

    I am just another cheapo who wants to wait for low low coe ...
  • 21 January 2016 - 06:09 PM
    BenTong
    Their sweetener normally last for 3 months or so. Won't happen in Dec. They want to move their new shipment fast.
  • 21 January 2016 - 11:53 PM
    Cosmicclaw

    They got in a big container of stock. If you look at Cat B bid vs available COE this round you will know why. Demand is weak and actually will be lesser than what will be available in Feb.

    Think lots of ppl (Cat B types) could be holding back buying new cars or are going for Cat A.

    MI may want to offer ppl sweeteners to come in and help them move their Cat B cars

    Heard MI sold over 100 plus Foresters during MotorShow. If this is indeed true, then the big shipment of cars would have been sold before it arrives. Unless there are more cars already ordered by M1 and coming in soon.

    Once upon a time, the Forester was a relatively rare sight on the roads. But now everywhere you look; from car parks to roads, they are everywhere. MI have hit a sweet spot with the perceived "great value for price"


  • 22 January 2016 - 07:09 AM
    BenTong

    Heard MI sold over 100 plus Foresters during MotorShow. If this is indeed true, then the big shipment of cars would have been sold before it arrives. Unless there are more cars already ordered by M1 and coming in soon.

    Once upon a time, the Forester was a relatively rare sight on the roads. But now everywhere you look; from car parks to roads, they are everywhere. MI have hit a sweet spot with the perceived "great value for price"

    mI not allowed to take order by LTA coz still not tested. Think XT testing now. Maybe they were clearing existing stock.
  • 22 January 2016 - 07:19 AM
    BenTong
    Buyers and ADs is playing a cat n mouse game these next few months. All depends on perceptions. AD will send out messages to "coerce" buyers that while COE will go up bcos everybody will rush in. Still think it will be heading south for this year. Those who can wait wait. Those who can't.. Just pray
  • 22 January 2016 - 09:51 PM
    Sarion

    mI not allowed to take order by LTA coz still not tested. Think XT testing now. Maybe they were clearing existing stock.


    Got such rule? Then how does super rich preorder their limited edition suoercars? Or they have super rules....
  • 23 January 2016 - 02:12 PM
    Pocus

    mI not allowed to take order by LTA coz still not tested. Think XT testing now. Maybe they were clearing existing stock.

    Not true, got a fren who book a new model car that haven't approved by LTA. Wait for a 2 mths finally approved and delivered the car. From c&c. They say if not approved will refund. Different dealer work differently. Not a rule by lta.

    Edited by Pocus, 23 January 2016 - 02:12 PM.

  • 23 January 2016 - 03:51 PM
    Tohto

    Are the facelift FXT on display at showroom already?


  • 23 January 2016 - 05:15 PM
    Moniq

    Are the facelift FXT on display at showroom already?

    Not at Leng Kee as of today. Saw the FL Forester Premium behind curtain.


  • 23 January 2016 - 11:30 PM
    sunnymonk

    SGCM is showing a price drop to 122800. Assuming we take a discount of 3-4k, wow it's below 120k.

    COE please keep dropping.� [laugh]


  • 24 January 2016 - 08:36 PM
    jonleelk

    SGCM is showing a price drop to 122800. Assuming we take a discount of 3-4k, wow it's below 120k.
    COE please keep dropping. [laugh]

    SE sms best price 119800.
  • 24 January 2016 - 08:43 PM
    Godprint

    SE sms best price 119800.

    Can share who's your se? Cheers
  • 24 January 2016 - 08:49 PM
    BenTong

    SE sms best price 119800.

    Standard discount $3k. Can ask for $1K discount further for non guaranteed. But frankly wait la. Think COE will trend down another $5-$8 K soon
  • 24 January 2016 - 10:40 PM
    3366

    http://www.goo-net-e...35730151223001/

    FL looks like this i think


  • 24 January 2016 - 11:26 PM
    Palmer

    I agree. Still will drop. Can wait if your car still can hold.


  • 27 January 2016 - 01:00 AM
    EricTan_148449
    Sorry brothers check with you guys I have just came back to Singapore after two years didn't pay much attention to automotive . The new ruling to buy new car the deposit is 40% ? Repayment is 5years ?or is it just like usual 6 years or so flexibility ? I am interested in buying the forester as starting here for good .
  • 27 January 2016 - 08:55 AM
    sunnymonk

    Sorry brothers check with you guys I have just came back to Singapore after two years didn't pay much attention to automotive . The new ruling to buy new car the deposit is 40% ? Repayment is 5years ?or is it just like usual 6 years or so flexibility ? I am interested in buying the forester as starting here for good .

    �The maximum motor vehicle loan amount will depend on the open market value (OMV) of the motor vehicle purchased:

    1) For a motor vehicle with OMV that does not exceed $20,000, the maximum loan-to-value (LTV) is 60% of the purchase price, including relevant taxes and the price of the Certificate of Entitlement, where applicable; and

    2) For a motor vehicle with OMV of more than $20,000, the maximum LTV is 50%.�

    In addition, the tenure of a motor vehicle loan will be capped at 5 years.

    Forester OMW is below 20k, so can take more loan(please correct me if I'm wrong)


  • 27 January 2016 - 09:10 AM
    Djcoolmax

    Latest news from my SE is price remains 124,800. They are allowed to take bookings now. I'm still thinking about it.. As my ride expires only in 01/2019 and it's more of an itchy backside now rather than real need to change..

    If you can buy now.. buy lah! Life is short... enjoy it and help the economy! hehe


  • 27 January 2016 - 09:14 AM
    sunnymonk

    If you can buy now.. buy lah! Life is short... enjoy it and help the economy! hehe

    Bro, I help economy who help me?� [:p]

    I have discussed with family and settled on a target price. Once reached i'll go in for sure.


  • 27 January 2016 - 09:52 AM
    Highmount

    Anyone know when will the facelift FXT be on displayed in leng kee?


  • 27 January 2016 - 09:58 AM
    JancieTeo

    i heard subaru can pay a bit to upgrade the window films? is it true? anyone know the price?


  • 27 January 2016 - 01:44 PM
    Magfocus

    Is the FL premium available for test drives now?


  • 27 January 2016 - 03:35 PM
    BenTong


    The maximum motor vehicle loan amount will depend on the open market value (OMV) of the motor vehicle purchased:

    1) For a motor vehicle with OMV that does not exceed $20,000, the maximum loan-to-value (LTV) is 60% of the purchase price, including relevant taxes and the price of the Certificate of Entitlement, where applicable; and

    2) For a motor vehicle with OMV of more than $20,000, the maximum LTV is 50%.

    In addition, the tenure of a motor vehicle loan will be capped at 5 years.


    Forester OMW is below 20k, so can take more loan(please correct me if I'm wrong)

    Pay cash then no need worry omv level

    Is the FL premium available for test drives now?

    Can go to MI and then let us know?
  • 27 January 2016 - 03:40 PM
    sunnymonk

    Pay cash then no need worry omv level
    Can go to MI and then let us know?

    SE just messaged me.

    Can take order for FL version now.

    But new XT still not available at showroom.


  • 27 January 2016 - 03:43 PM
    BenTong

    Bro, I help economy who help me? [:p]

    I have discussed with family and settled on a target price. Once reached i'll go in for sure.

    What's the target? Share la

    SE just messaged me.
    Can take order for FL version now.
    But new XT still not available at showroom.

    Can share best price by SE?
  • 27 January 2016 - 03:45 PM
    sunnymonk

    What's the target? Share la
    Can share best price by SE?

    I never ask best price now.

    My target price will require COE to drop 10k or so. I'm not sure if i'm unrealistic but I can wait.


  • 27 January 2016 - 03:46 PM
    BenTong

    I never ask best price now.
    My target price will require COE to drop 10k or so. I'm not sure if i'm unrealistic but I can wait.

    Same same
  • 27 January 2016 - 03:55 PM
    Nav14

    I never ask best price now.

    My target price will require COE to drop 10k or so. I'm not sure if i'm unrealistic but I can wait.

    Just pray there is no miraculous change in the economic and stock market sentiments for the next 3-4 months and your wish could be granted - maybe even a larger than 10k decline. Maybe 20k?


  • 27 January 2016 - 04:23 PM
    sunnymonk

    Just pray there is no miraculous change in the economic and stock market sentiments for the next 3-4 months and your wish could be granted - maybe even a larger than 10k decline. Maybe 20k?

    I am looking at Cat B with great interest because it seems like demand is not exactly strong to hold up at 50k level.

    Sentiments for 2016 is really not that good as discussed during my company's recent business review.

    One main reason I'm waiting is because of the incoming COE supply wave. I do not wish to go in at the earliest part of the wave as that probably means I will be caught in 10 years time in the same situation when it is time to replace my car. I do not expect to get the lowest COE but I do hope to be somewhere in the middle.

    I really like the Forester XT and I will definitely get it. Question is when haha.


  • 27 January 2016 - 05:40 PM
    Chucky2007

    i heard subaru can pay a bit to upgrade the window films? is it true? anyone know the price?

    Not worth at all. Opt out of solar film and refund $50 and do outside. The free sarasin film cannot make it all all
  • 27 January 2016 - 06:03 PM
    BenTong

    I am looking at Cat B with great interest because it seems like demand is not exactly strong to hold up at 50k level.
    Sentiments for 2016 is really not that good as discussed during my company's recent business review.

    One main reason I'm waiting is because of the incoming COE supply wave. I do not wish to go in at the earliest part of the wave as that probably means I will be caught in 10 years time in the same situation when it is time to replace my car. I do not expect to get the lowest COE but I do hope to be somewhere in the middle.

    I really like the Forester XT and I will definitely get it. Question is when haha.

    So what u think it's optimal COE to go in? And when ?
  • 27 January 2016 - 06:34 PM
    Chucky2007

    So what u think it's optimal COE to go in? And when ?

    Of course optimal is when coe $2... sometimes in the future possibly
  • 27 January 2016 - 06:37 PM
    BenTong

    Of course optimal is when coe $2... sometimes in the future possibly

    Fei hea
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