Are you driving 2.0i Premium?Thanks Puiru, I thought that I'm the only one who have this unusual sound from my transmission. Did u sent your car to MI for inspection
The noise is actually from the AWD differential during low speed, not the CVT.
The CVT is very quiet.
FXT does not have the noise, not sure why, maybe they using different type of differential.
BTW, I'm driving 2.0i too, i've feedback the "problem" during 1k servicing. MI's Service Advisor told me is normal, nothing can be done.
Agree with you.. especially CO who seldom drive the car.. I made the mistake of letting CO choice first car and drove for 5 years with remorse..co role is to affirm and not decide, let alone choose.
It's those 12v inflator. I got the slime brand few years ago at $40+.. and it works well. Also slim enough that it sits permanently in the spare tyre area in car all the timei got them from :
Yung Hin Tyre & Battery Co 461 Changi Road 419884 67474335
can give them a call before going down, i think they dun hold stock but probably got it from some other bigger dealer or people who have traded in rims on first day etc?
For me is really about cost. If change to other sizes, will need to change all 4?
The tyres is like less than 2k mileage and wasted to change all 4 because 1 had a puncture =(
thanks for the advice, the canister i bought works quite well and seems to have a foam inject. not sure if it will render the tyre unable to be patch for normal puncture but for my case side wall puncture and already the rigidity compromised as it was totally flat before i discover it and limped back to the petrol station.
but the tyre inflator u all talking about air canister or those 12 volt pump?
tyre will void warranty meh??
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Yes, if wrong sized.
Main dimension that need to be correct is the tyre outside diameter - it needs to be same as that of the OEM tires. (It is ok to change the rim size - i.e. diameter of the "hole" in the middle of the tyre).
The overall diameter affects the traction control and other systems as the car sensors depend on the standard diameter to know the actual car speed etc.
As long you change to same outside diameter as OEM, then should be quite ok.
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Then next thing to take care is make sure all tyre diameters are same (some places say should maintain to within 2.4mm difference at most) - else, the differentials (which cope with the tire rotation speed differences among the tires - either from tyre diameter differences or when car turns into a curve) will overwork from the permanent tyre difference, and get damaged from the high heat build up.�
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That's why the owner manual say if change tyre, need to change all at the same time (mainly to ensure you don't have one with brand new thread that result in slightly bigger diameter, and the rest with more worn-out thread that has smaller diameter - you can avoid this if you can find a tyre shop who can shave off some thread from the new tire so that diameter is the same as old tyres but hard to find such tyre shop in Singapore - In US, have such shops and some Subaru owners do that).�
[Some people say ok to just change 2 tires instead of 4 but not officially indicated as such in the owner manual]
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Also, the reason why the normal maintenance will rotate tire to make sure all have even wear.
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Edited by jg2000, 22 December 2015 - 10:27 AM.
Yes, if wrong sized.
Main dimension that need to be correct is the tyre outside diameter - it needs to be same as that of the OEM tires. (It is ok to change the rim size - i.e. diameter of the "hole" in the middle of the tyre).
The overall diameter affects the traction control and other systems as the car sensors depend on the standard diameter to know the actual car speed etc.
As long you change to same outside diameter as OEM, then should be quite ok.
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Then next thing to take care is make sure all tyre diameters are same (some places say should maintain to within 2.4mm difference at most) - else, the differentials (which cope with the tire rotation speed differences among the tires - either from tyre diameter differences or when car turns into a curve) will overwork from the permanent tyre difference, and get damaged from the high heat build up.�
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That's why the owner manual say if change tyre, need to change all at the same time (mainly to ensure you don't have one with brand new thread that result in slightly bigger diameter, and the rest with more worn-out thread that has smaller diameter - you can avoid this if you can find a tyre shop who can shave off some thread from the new tire so that diameter is the same as old tyres but hard to find such tyre shop in Singapore - In US, have such shops and some Subaru owners do that).�
[Some people say ok to just change 2 tires instead of 4 but not officially indicated as such in the owner manual]
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Also, the reason why the normal maintenance will rotate tire to make sure all have even wear.
I'm not a technical man and would like to ask the following question. Hope bros here can advise, collecting the 2.0NA soon.
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What size�we should change to�if we wish to�have a�more readily available tyre?��Should we change immediately after collecting car so that we can get slightly more trade in value or wait? Rims need to change as well if tyre size changes?
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For tyre, can try Malaysia. Continental MC5 does come with 225/55 R17
Original is 225/60/17, any issues using 225/55/17?
Original is 225/60/17, any issues using 225/55/17?
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No cannot.� The overall diameter will change.
Use this calculator to check whether your proposed new tire can match old tire's overall diameter (scroll down the page to see the calculator):
http://www.tyresave....k/tyresize.html
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Edited by jg2000, 22 December 2015 - 01:07 PM.
No cannot.� The overall diameter will change.
Use this calculator to check whether your proposed new tire can match old tire's overall diameter (scroll down the page to see the calculator):
Hmmm..... that means the next size is 235/55/17 which is within 2.5% differences in diameter. Is that a common size? Which brand and model is good and cheap? Change�at collection or later?�any advise?�
Hi, care to share.
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Does anyone notice the factory fitted�rear view camera, when view from the head unit LCD�the camera bottom line does not inline with the bumper.
Also when you use the camera parking grid line to� guild into the carpark lot, do you�notice the car�will be slant.
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To-day during 1K servicing, I told the advisor about it and the respond was�Japan factory fitted just nice inside the�mould�casing,�so they�can't�adjust as it, he can only�feedback to Japan how to solve it.�
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Anyone face this issue, pleased feedback.
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Yes it can't be help bec the factory fitted reverse camera is fitted maybe 3-5cm off centre, due to the buttons to open the boot. So it'll never be centralized, only if u replace with another that's right at the centre say at the rear bumper, like some Honda Airwave I've seen.Hi, care to share.
Does anyone notice the factory fitted rear view camera, when view from the head unit LCD the camera bottom line does not inline with the bumper.
Also when you use the camera parking grid line to guild into the carpark lot, do you notice the car will be slant.
To-day during 1K servicing, I told the advisor about it and the respond was Japan factory fitted just nice inside the mould casing, so they can't adjust as it, he can only feedback to Japan how to solve it.
Anyone face this issue, pleased feedback.
Hmmm..... that means the next size is 235/55/17 which is within 2.5% differences in diameter. Is that a common size? Which brand and model is good and cheap? Change�at collection or later?�any advise?�
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You may not need to change to different size if you want cheap and good.
I think the OEM size is available if you ask for Goodyear Eagle F1 Directional 5 which is cheap and good (and supposedly available in the OEM Forester/XV size in Malaysia and Singapore):
https://forum.lowyat...ic/3099156/ 100
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You can even try asking Motor Image.� I sort of heard/read somewhere that they carry this brand for subsequent replacement tires (after the first factory set wears out).
I came from Nissan car handled by Tan Chong which is Motor Image sister company.� There, they also use alternative non-factory brand (one of them was Falken) as the replacement tires and interestingly, they charge quite cheap for those tires as compared to places like Autobacs.� Perhaps, it is the same for Motor Image - I have not tried yet as still on my factory tires (but will definitely check with Motor Image and compare with others when it is time).
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If MI don't have, then can try other Goodyear outlets:
https://www.goodyear...re?tyre_id=1261 (there are over 180 stores listed - can just give a telephone call before you go down).
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Edited by jg2000, 23 December 2015 - 02:26 PM.
Sorry post wrongly. Meant for the COE thread. Cat B down $5k, wonder what would be Forester px with this drop.Chance for green!
For those who may have questions/concerns about the realibility of Subaru Foresters ......
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I just came back from a 3 day drive to KL in my 9 years 3 months old Forester. Drove around the city with its notorious traffic, averaged 130 kmh along North South Highway and everything went well. Admitedly, it is not as "smooth or powerful" as when it was new but nonetheless, for a 9 year old car, it was a very smooth and more importantly, realiable drive.
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I did have some concerns before starting the trip but after some checks at mechanic and changing a leaking brake cylinder, everything went well and waiting eagerly for the new Forester model expected next year !
You may not need to change to different size if you want cheap and good.
I think the OEM size is available if you ask for Goodyear Eagle F1 Directional 5 which is cheap and good (and supposedly available in the OEM Forester/XV size in Malaysia and Singapore):
https://forum.lowyat...ic/3099156/ 100
You can even try asking Motor Image. I sort of heard/read somewhere that they carry this brand for subsequent replacement tires (after the first factory set wears out).
I came from Nissan car handled by Tan Chong which is Motor Image sister company. There, they also use alternative non-factory brand (one of them was Falken) as the replacement tires and interestingly, they charge quite cheap for those tires as compared to places like Autobacs. Perhaps, it is the same for Motor Image - I have not tried yet as still on my factory tires (but will definitely check with Motor Image and compare with others when it is time).
If MI don't have, then can try other Goodyear outlets:
https://www.goodyear...re?tyre_id=1261 (there are over 180 stores listed - can just give a telephone call before you go down).
Thanks for the helpful reply
Yes it can't be help bec the factory fitted reverse camera is fitted maybe 3-5cm off centre, due to the buttons to open the boot. So it'll never be centralized, only if u replace with another that's right at the centre say at the rear bumper, like some Honda Airwave I've seen.
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To-day,�review through�the Monitor LCD again.
Maybe due to the camera mounting off centre and to enable the�reverse camera�guideline to be a line with the carpark line and vehicle line,
so the reverse camera need�to be mounted slant.
Received text from SE that FXT is now $121.8K and Outback is $122.8K.
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Except for the higher road tax of $500 annually, has any one considering the FXT also looked at Outback?
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Read reviews that with its longer wheel base, ride is more comfortable. Tempted to consider an Outback as it does have a more "luxurious" interior compared to FXT from the quick look I had previously. Remembered it as slightly lower headroom and with electronic brake.
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Any feedback from others?
Received text from SE that FXT is now $121.8K and Outback is $122.8K.
Except for the higher road tax of $500 annually, has any one considering the FXT also looked at Outback?
Read reviews that with its longer wheel base, ride is more comfortable. Tempted to consider an Outback as it does have a more "luxurious" interior compared to FXT from the quick look I had previously. Remembered it as slightly lower headroom and with electronic brake.
Any feedback from others?
If it come with the 2.0 Turbo engine, I will get the outback.
Received text from SE that FXT is now $121.8K and Outback is $122.8K.
Except for the higher road tax of $500 annually, has any one considering the FXT also looked at Outback?
Read reviews that with its longer wheel base, ride is more comfortable. Tempted to consider an Outback as it does have a more "luxurious" interior compared to FXT from the quick look I had previously. Remembered it as slightly lower headroom and with electronic brake.
Any feedback from others?
One thing to consider, if the into account of omv, depreciation of outback might be lower than fxt. I am not very sure of both the omv though. Just a thought.
Based on Onemotoring Nov 2015 figures, average OMV for FXT vs Outback is $17,955 vs $21,164One thing to consider, if the into account of omv, depreciation of outback might be lower than fxt. I am not very sure of both the omv though. Just a thought.
I booked my FXT at 127.8k when coe is 60k, then outback was $134k.Received text from SE that FXT is now $121.8K and Outback is $122.8K.
Except for the higher road tax of $500 annually, has any one considering the FXT also looked at Outback?
Read reviews that with its longer wheel base, ride is more comfortable. Tempted to consider an Outback as it does have a more "luxurious" interior compared to FXT from the quick look I had previously. Remembered it as slightly lower headroom and with electronic brake.
Any feedback from others?
This week coe drop by 5k, the FXT is 121.8k.. drop by 6k since.. while Outback drop by 12k. Confirm better deal for outback as interior, sound proofing, sound system is better.. and OMV also 2-3k higher but selling price is just 1k more. FXT has better sunroof.
The decision is really boils down to if you prefer a 2L turbo or 2.5NA.. the $500 road tax negligible. Go test drive both and decide which do you prefer.
I booked my FXT at 127.8k when coe is 60k, then outback was $134k.
This week coe drop by 5k, the FXT is 121.8k.. drop by 6k since.. while Outback drop by 12k. Confirm better deal for outback as interior, sound proofing, sound system is better.. and OMV also 2-3k higher but selling price is just 1k more. FXT has better sunroof.
The decision is really boils down to if you prefer a 2L turbo or 2.5NA.. the $500 road tax negligible. Go test drive both and decide which do you prefer.
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Thanks for feedback. Indeed the rest test is in the drive and feel of both cars.
Bro, what was the expected collection date given by your salesperson?I booked my FXT at 127.8k when coe is 60k, then outback was $134k.
This week coe drop by 5k, the FXT is 121.8k.. drop by 6k since.. while Outback drop by 12k. Confirm better deal for outback as interior, sound proofing, sound system is better.. and OMV also 2-3k higher but selling price is just 1k more. FXT has better sunroof.
The decision is really boils down to if you prefer a 2L turbo or 2.5NA.. the $500 road tax negligible. Go test drive both and decide which do you prefer.
OC happy, am happy
Seriously MI must be pushing for outback quota by pricing it so close to FXT
I got my coe on 23 Sept, car registered on 1 Oct and collected car on 2 Oct,Bro, what was the expected collection date given by your salesperson?
If not limiting to SUV and turbo, can also consider Legacy.Test drove both, Outback is a better choice based on comment from rear passengers.
OC happy, am happy
Seriously MI must be pushing for outback quota by pricing it so close to FXT
If not limiting to SUV and turbo, can also consider Legacy.
Looking for SUV nia.
Test drove both, Outback is a better choice based on comment from rear passengers.
OC happy, am happy
Seriously MI must be pushing for outback quota by pricing it so close to FXT
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So you went against OC and buying FXT instead ![[;)]](http://www.mycarforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png)
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Think possible reason for low Outback price could also be due to overstock. No good keeping cars too long and MI could be trying to clear ex stocks.
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If it come with the 2.0 Turbo engine, I will get the outback.
Outback has never been with turbo engine.... and it is a really really long car to park....
Driving a wrx now, waiting for further fall in price for FXT. Although my first choice is still the wrx. Alas if only wrx OMV 24k selling $130k++ now. Rally blue for sure. FXT sure $ for value. Subaru Fan old boy now.
So you went against OC and buying FXT instead
Think possible reason for low Outback price could also be due to overstock. No good keeping cars too long and MI could be trying to clear ex stocks.
Leaning towards Outback but no rush for a new ride.
Any Outback or Legacy owner can advise what's your FC?
Average 12km/l ...(30% city/ 70% highway)
Could be existing stock. What color did your friend chose?wow...just heard a friend signed the papers with MI today for the FXT at $120,800 non-guaranteed COE...got freebies somemore, & SE target to register car latest by end Jan...looks like the facelift is coming very soon & MI's clearing stock...but it's still a good price at $120,800...
Is this the new facelift?
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wow...just heard a friend signed the papers with MI today for the FXT at $120,800 non-guaranteed COE...got freebies somemore, & SE target to register car latest by end Jan...looks like the facelift is coming very soon & MI's clearing stock...but it's still a good price at $120,800...
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Yes, the non turbo version.Is this the new facelift?
Average 12km/l ...(30% city/ 70% highway)
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Mine about 13km/l too
Wah, so good,Mine about 13km/l too
Looks like NA has better FC than TC
Hi, anybody here windscreen got hit by stones , road debris n has chip on the windscreen ? Driving a legacy and gotten 2 in December.
Just wondering are new windscreens so fragile or I suay. ..
i drove to malaysia last weekend. Windscreen got hit by stone. Damn suay ... will claim insurance for windscreen replacement when i go for my 1st servicing later this week.�
i drove to malaysia last weekend. Windscreen got hit by stone. Damn suay ... will claim insurance for windscreen replacement when i go for my 1st servicing later this week.�
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how big is the damage?
my windshield got 2x. 1 is abt 1cm with no crackline, the other with crackline abt 2.5cm
both stopped "growing" as of now...
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i will claim too but at a later stage of the year.... hahaa scare kena more...
and it will take 1 full day to replace btw
Very tempted to get the XT. My old car is due for scrap soon. What's the freebies throw in at this price? Do you know the guaranteed COE car price? Thanks.wow...just heard a friend signed the papers with MI today for the FXT at $120,800 non-guaranteed COE...got freebies somemore, & SE target to register car latest by end Jan...looks like the facelift is coming very soon & MI's clearing stock...but it's still a good price at $120,800...
how big is the damage?
my windshield got 2x. 1 is abt 1cm with no crackline, the other with crackline abt 2.5cm
both stopped "growing" as of now...
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i will claim too but at a later stage of the year.... hahaa scare kena more...
and it will take 1 full day to replace btw
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no crack line ... damage area around 2cm diameter. Why not claim now ? There is no limit of how many times u can claim for windscreen damage so you can claim if damage again later. Plus NCD will not be affected.
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I have scheduled for 1st servicing on 30th Nov and taken full day leave so i guess is ok for me
no crack line ... damage area around 2cm diameter. Why not claim now ? There is no limit of how many times u can claim for windscreen damage so you can claim if damage again later. Plus NCD will not be affected.
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I have scheduled for 1st servicing on 30th Nov and taken full day leave so i guess is ok for me
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yup unlimited but got $100 excess + $150 solar film
and there are mentions that factory fitted windscreen are better sealed.
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for my case... i cant take leave and the route i using is quite treacherous , both times i got from the same road/spot
yup unlimited but got $100 excess + $150 solar film
and there are mentions that factory fitted windscreen are better sealed.
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for my case... i cant take leave and the route i using is quite treacherous , both times i got from the same road/spot
lol, ok. I am going to drive to Malaysia again for CNY. I don't want to drive long distance with a cracked screen. God knows if the crack suddenly deteriorate in the middle of my journey.
I was thinking not to put the solar fim� ![[:p]](http://www.mycarforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.png)
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lol, ok. I am going to drive to Malaysia again for CNY. I don't want to drive long distance with a cracked screen. God knows if the crack suddenly deteriorate in the middle of my journey.
I was thinking not to put the solar fim�
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No solar film means good for suntanning if drive towards east in morning or towards west in the late afternoon.
It is ok since we lived with it long ago when there was no such thing as solar film (and maybe don't even have aircon).
Only nowadays then start noticing and requiring so many add-ons for comfort (esp. for the strawberry generation).
[But I have to admit - I not only have solar film but changed the MI free one to a better one.]
Anyone has any idea how much the new FXT will cost ? Considering a FXT towards end 16 when my Legacy is due for scrap. I hope the newer FXT does not have issues like cracked dash, the aircon re-circulate which irritates me.
Can elaborate aircon re-circulation?Anyone has any idea how much the new FXT will cost ? Considering a FXT towards end 16 when my Legacy is due for scrap. I hope the newer FXT does not have issues like cracked dash, the aircon re-circulate which irritates me.
Can elaborate aircon re-circulation?
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�The air con temp has to set below 21 degree to prevent �the �recirulate� vent from opening once the temp reach around 24~25 degree programmed under factory setting. Not a problem but its irritating. Dunno if they will do anything about this.
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for my case... i cant take leave and the route i using is quite treacherous , both times i got from the same road/spot
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Can you share where is this "dangerous" spot with flying debris so we can take note? Thanks
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wow...just heard a friend signed the papers with MI today for the FXT at $120,800 non-guaranteed COE...got freebies somemore, & SE target to register car latest by end Jan...looks like the facelift is coming very soon & MI's clearing stock...but it's still a good price at $120,800...
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3 different SEs gave 3 different versions of when will new Forester be arriving ....Jan, March & Sep. The one that said Jan mentioned it will likely be unveiled at upcoming Motorshow.
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Mine about 13km/l too
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13km/l for a 2,000cc, >1600kg AWD SUV.
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Puts some 1600cc FWD Japanese cars to great shame!
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Can you share with us how you �achieve such miraculous fuel consumption?
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Model - Forester 2.0i-L or 2.0XT turbo?
Tyres - Did you downsize to narrower tyres?
Brand of Fuel pumped & octane?
% city / highway driving?
No. of passengers in car?
When accelerating, rev to how many rpm?
Current mileage?
Edited by Vinceng, 28 December 2015 - 07:45 PM.
Personal view, sept not likely. Cos jp already making the new facelift, extended manufacturing of the old model might not make economic sense. Then again they may be using up the old parts. I hope its by 1/2 half of the year.3 different SEs gave 3 different versions of when will new Forester be arriving ....Jan, March & Sep. The one that said Jan mentioned it will likely be unveiled at upcoming Motorshow.
As of 5pm just now over at LengKee MI showroom, I was told that the premium version is out-of-stock and the XT has only 2 colours available. Price tagged $124800. Sales guy also hinted that the 2016 model should appear first in the upcoming showroom but did not reveal any pricing.
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Funny thing is that he said only different is the projector head light as the one on the current Outback.
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Was there with my friend who is interested in the Lervog. Nice drive with�adequate torque�as commented by my friend. A bit pissed off by the bo-chap attitude sales guy so decided to throw his money elsewhere.
As of 5pm just now over at LengKee MI showroom, I was told that the premium version is out-of-stock and the XT has only 2 colours available. Price tagged $124800. Sales guy also hinted that the 2016 model should appear first in the upcoming showroom but did not reveal any pricing.
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Funny thing is that he said only different is the projector head light as the one on the current Outback.
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Was there with my friend who is interested in the Lervog. Nice drive with�adequate torque�as commented by my friend. A bit pissed off by the bo-chap attitude sales guy so decided to throw his money elsewhere.
May�I ask what the 2 colors for the XT are?
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Sorry. Did not ask.
Personal view, sept not likely. Cos jp already making the new facelift, extended manufacturing of the old model might not make economic sense. Then again they may be using up the old parts. I hope its by 1/2 half of the year.
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I'm inclined to believe the SE that said Jan 2016, especially during the Motorshow
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Probably Jan 2017 at motor show but 1st deliveries in March. Sep2017 is a little late.I'm inclined to believe the SE that said Jan 2016, especially during the Motorshow
Quite some changes.besides new lights. New colors, recalibrated transmission. Thicker glass. Better insulation. Foam filled structures. New rims. For me I'm waiting for the driver side memory seats.
For the current Forester, its 22.5. This feature is here to stay and its spreading to other brands too.The air con temp has to set below 21 degree to prevent the �recirulate� vent from opening once the temp reach around 24~25 degree programmed under factory setting. Not a problem but its irritating. Dunno if they will do anything about this.
Probably Jan 2017 at motor show but 1st deliveries in March. Sep2017 is a little late.
Quite some changes.besides new lights. New colors, recalibrated transmission. Thicker glass. Better insulation. Foam filled structures. New rims. For me I'm waiting for the driver side memory seats.
I should have waited
Does anyone has know the Subaru Authorised dealer that carry spare parts other than MI.
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1) Waterloo Centre?
2) Veerasamy road?
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You can try Lesun Auto Parts.
Their email is lesunSingNet.com.sg
If not in stock, they can order in (but need to wait for sea shipping to arrive)
They are at Ubi
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If you know the part number, that is the best.
Can try to search here for part number (scroll to bottom and choose the relevant category button) http://parts.subaru....XT-Touring.html (if not the right model, then you will need to change to a different model for your search).
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Have ordered something but not collected yet - so can't give my review of their full service yet.
However, email response is quite ok so far.
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Looks like the same case with Honda Vezel when the agent is under constrain.
We'll have to import the JDM model ourselves or find a PI to import in if we want the features below.
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Full list of enhancements in new 2016 Forester from official Subaru Press Release; although many of the safety features are unlikely to be available in Singapore.
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Sounds like lots of enhancements worth waiting for if the price difference is not too big. Will also need to see the version MI brings in since this Press Release is meant for JDM
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http://www.fhi.co.jp...15_1006_011.pdf
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Subaru Upgrades Forester in Japan � New Safety Features include EyeSight (Ver. 3) and New Headlight Advancements
Tokyo, October 6, 2015 � Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd. (FHI), the manufacturer of Subaru automobiles, today announced an upgraded edition of the Subaru Forester in Japan. The model will be exhibited on October 28 at the Tokyo Motor Show 2015 Press Day.
The Forester has always been noted for the high degree of performance balance as an SUV. The latest upgrade advances this performance especially in the areas of design, driving enjoyment, and the utility and comfort expected of an SUV. Furthermore, the Forester's safety performance, already among the world's highest, has been bolstered by adopting the new EyeSight*1, an Advanced Safety Package*2 incorporating newly developed Adaptive Driving Beam headlights, and Subaru's first LED high & low beam lights and Steering Responsive Headlights. This comprehensive upgrade in vehicle performance has raised the Forester to a new level, as a product that will brighten the lives of more customers than ever.
The exterior features a redesigned front face, for a sturdier, more SUV-like appearance that also hints at the advancements inside. The interior design befits the superior functionality of a true SUV and enhances the feeling of quality. For improved driving stability, the steering response has been made more linear by modifying the steering-gear ratio, giving the driver a greater feeling of direct control over vehicle movement. Suspension settings were optimized to offer a smooth and solid ride with quality feel.
Additionally, a more comfortable interior space was achieved by increasing door glass thickness, strengthening the sealing, and improving Lineartronic transmission. These and other measures result in less unwanted sounds.�
Key Forester Upgrades
1.Design
?(1) Exterior
(a) Redesigned front face
The headlights, front grill, and front bumper*3 have a wider appearance highlighting the Subaru identity, and presenting a new front face with an advanced design that imparts a feeling of dependability.
(b) Newly designed rear combination lights
The rear combination lights adopt a sideways U-shaped motif similar to the headlights, for a sense of wideness. A lifting impression is created by concentrating the red lenses at the top, with an overall rear style befitting an SUV.
� Newly designed aluminum wheels
The 17-inch aluminum wheels employ a sleeker pattern to reduce drag and improve fuel efficiency. The 18-inch aluminum wheels adopted for the turbocharged model, have been given a new design characterized by muscular and dynamic form.
(d) New body color options
The new Forester is now available also in Dark Blue Pearl and Sepia Bronze Metallic color variations.�
(2) Interior
(a) Higher-quality appearance of interior finish
The look and feel of the instrument panel have been upgraded, adopting a combination decorative panel with silver frame and piano-black hues and adding metallic accents. The leather covering used for the instrument panel center tray and door grips, along with the toughness and excellent tactile sense, combine to create a high-quality, sporty look complementing the powerful feeling. (Excl. 2.0i)
(b) Color LCD multi-information display
The meter panel has a color LCD multi-information display in the center, clearly showing the status of EyeSight and Subaru Intelligent Drive (SI-DRIVE) along with other information necessary for driving. (Excl. 2.0i)
� SD navigation system supporting "Siri Eyes Free"
The Harman Kardon sound system and SD navigation system (manufacturer-installed options) support the "Siri Eyes Free" voice recognition function. Operations can be performed by pressing the Talk button on the steering wheel and issuing verbal instructions, enabling Siri services to be used more safely while driving, without taking the eyes off the road.*4 *5
(d) Rear seat heaters
Heaters with high/low settings are located on both sides of the rear seat. (Excl. 2.0i)
(e) Driver-side power seat memory function
The power seat on the driver's side has a memory function that restores the optimal position at the touch of a switch.*6�
2.Safety
?(1) EyeSight (ver. 3)
The latest EyeSight (ver. 3) represents a major evolution in advanced safety functions. The Active Lane Keep steering assistance system, as well as Pre-Collision Braking Control and Adaptive Cruise Control, have been given performance upgrades, to provide leading-edge preventive safety technology.
?(2) Advanced Safety Package
A package of advanced functions further enhancing safety is offered as a manufacturer-installed option. Supplementing the EyeSight front detection function is a radar system for detecting vehicles in rear blind spots, supporting safer and more comfortable driving.
(a) Subaru Rear Vehicle Detection
?Blind Spot Detection (BSD)
Radar sensors detect vehicles in rear blind spots, and LED lights in the door mirror light up or flash* to urge driver caution.
?Lane Change Assist (LCA)
Radar sensors detect the rapid approach of vehicles from the rear in the next lane, and LED lights in the door mirror light up or flash* to urge driver caution.
*Both with BSD and LCA, when radar has detected a vehicle and the driver tries to change lane after using the indicator, LED lights in the door mirror flash to alert the driver of collision danger.
?Rear Cross Traffic Alert
Radar sensors detect vehicles approaching from the right or left when backing up and, if there is deemed to be a risk of collision, alert the driver by flashing LED lights in the door mirror and by an audible warning.
(b) Adaptive Driving Beam (ADB)
EyeSight high-performance stereo cameras accurately detect the presence of vehicles ahead and in oncoming lanes, smoothly adjusting the range of the high beams in a continuous range by means of shields inside the headlights. ADB makes it possible to obtain plenty of visibility for safe, comfortable nighttime driving, without the need to worry about disturbing other drivers with high beams.�
(3) LED high & low beam lights and Steering Responsive Headlights
?Each headlight is equipped with a bifunctional projector mechanism that enables a single light to provide both high and low beams. Since LED projection is used also for high beams, night visibility is raised to a new level.
?Steering Responsive Headlights are adopted, which move the headlight beam axis right or left in response to steering wheel operations at corners and intersections. The direction in which the vehicle is moving is brightly illuminated, for improved night visibility.
?(4) Supplemental restraint system (SRS) side and curtain airbags standard on all grades
All grades are equipped with SRS side airbags and SRS curtain airbags, for greater passenger protection in case of an accident. (Excl. 2.0i)
3. Advances in Driving Enjoyment
?(1) Chassis
(a) Enhanced chassis performance
Greater front cross member rigidity and optimization of the rear trailing link bushings result in better steering responsiveness and straight-line stability, for more assured handling performance.�
(b) Optimized suspension settings
By optimizing the shock absorber damping and the spring constant of coil springs, both the supple ride comfort and handling agility have been improved. Changes to the rod guide bushings and to the oil used to operate the front and rear shock absorbers result in more stable friction of moving parts while suppressing vibration. Initial roll performance has also been optimized. A comfortable ride with minimal vibration as well as outstanding handling stability have been achieved.
� Optimized steering-gear ratio
The steering-gear ratio has been changed from the earlier 15.5:1 to 14.0:1. The quicker ratio improves maneuverability and enhances the satisfaction of agile handling.
(d) Active Torque Vectoring
The turbocharged model adopts Active Torque Vectoring for improved cornering lines.
?(2) Engine and transmission
(a) Improved fuel efficiency of naturally aspirated (NA) models
More efficient combustion and reduced friction in the NA engine improve fuel efficiency with no loss of snappy performance. In JC08 mode tests, fuel economy of 16.0 km/liter was achieved, making the new Forester eligible for the next higher level of Japan's eco-car tax incentives (40% reduction in acquisition tax, 25% cut in tonnage tax, and 50% off the following year's automobile tax).
(b) Auto-step shift control and close-ratio eight-speed shifting
The turbocharged model adopts auto-step shift control for direct and sporty acceleration. Moreover, in SI-DRIVE S# (Sport Sharp) mode, close-ratio eight-speed shifting makes for easier use of the power band in a sportier setting.
?(3) Improved quietness
Thicker door glass, stronger sealing, and improvements to Lineartronic transmission result in less unwanted sounds.�
*1. "EyeSight (ver.3)" as it is known on the Japanese market.
*2. Manufacturer-installed option for EyeSight models.
*3. The newly designed front bumper is adopted in all NA models except the S-Limited.
*4. Siri is a registered trademark of Apple Inc.
*5. A Siri-enabled Apple device needs to be connected via Bluetooth.
*6. Manufacturer-installed option, provided as a set with genuine leather seats.
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The new 2016 facelift Forester is here. Saw a unit an Leng Kee this morning. It was behind curtains but one SE was giving his customer a preview.
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Walked in and the new front and rear lights look very nice. Did not get to go inside the Forester as the customer's family were all piled inside. Think it will definitely be displayed at Motor Show and sales of new model should also start soon.
The new 2016 facelift Forester is here. Saw a unit an Leng Kee this morning. It was behind curtains but one SE was giving his customer a preview.
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Walked in and the new front and rear lights look very nice. Did not get to go inside the Forester as the customer's family were all piled inside. Think it will definitely be displayed at Motor Show and sales of new model should also start soon.
Haha, I went in the afternoon but didn't peep to see what is behind the curtain... Should have kaypo and check it out...
Wonder would there be a difference in the pricing and by how much after the update is launched.
JAE Auto Pte Ltd
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Spoken to them but their reply 2015 better go through MI.
Has anyone experienced shuddering and clicking noise when turning slowly at a multi-storey car park? I just had the car for one week, and experienced it once on a rainy day.
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Searched online, and was linked to "torque binding". Any advice or comments on this? Thanks!
Http://youtu.be/Sar-Z7qciYA
Paiseh if this has been posted. Didn't go through all 107 pages of posts
Very nice video for Outback/ Forester/XV fans
Http://youtu.be/Sar-Z7qciYA
Paiseh if this has been posted. Didn't go through all 107 pages of posts
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Nice video - have not seen it before.
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Shows off the Subaru SUV's strengths - too bad we don't have such space in Singapore to fully make use of them this way (unless anyone know of any kampong dirt track still left in Singapore that civilian can use? military sure got plenty but we can't use).
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One part of the video shows a bit of drifting which I think has to be specially arranged because the default Vehicle Dynamic stability Control setting plus the All Wheel Drive will prevent normal drivers from trying to do dangerous Fast and Furious drifts on their own.
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There are ways to minimise the VDC (beyond what the so-called VDC "off" button can do - the "off" button does not really off it - it still will control against drifting).� If you search the US forums, they explain how to by-pass the VDC more fully if you are pro enough to know how to do off-road rallying correctly.
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Found the Jap Forester ad on youtube
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Edited by Deepblue06, 04 January 2016 - 08:35 PM.
Hi All,
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I'm a longtime lurker but 1st time to post.
Currently driving a 01/09 Impreza 1.5L and I've been test driving a number of cars because my family has outgrown the hatchback. Cars tested are CX5, X Trail, HRV, Outlander, Forester XT and Outback.
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The Forester XT is my current favourite even though I had told myself years ago I will not buy another Subaru(due mostly to lack of power and hence my heavy foot resulting in 9km/L FC on my 1.5L� 
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Anyway I went down to Leng Kee today to talk to the SE who served me in TPY when I drove both the XT and the Outback. Reason for going there was mainly to see the new facelift. Well, the FL is mostly cosmetic as I can see but since the model I saw is the NA version, I can't pass comment until I see the FL XT although I suspect there isn't much difference besides rims. I like the new lights and also the handle when we close the door.
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In a bid to close out the last remaining stocks of the XT, the SE offered me a pretty decent deal but I didn't bite because I prefer to wait for the Motorshow and check out the cars.
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Baring any last min changes, I think I will be getting the XT �soon. 
Edited by sunnymonk, 04 January 2016 - 11:04 PM.
I think with all the goodies, it might compete with Xtrail's pricing around 135k
Anyone got any idea whats the price of the new forester? Seems like alot of new features added and that might add to omv and ultimately increase in selling price..
I think with all the goodies, it might compete with Xtrail's pricing around 135k
The SE I spoke to today said the FL is mostly cosmetic and they are still trying to keep OMV low.
Hence I think a lot of the changes listed above will hardly show up.
Changes confirmed are the lights and the interior refresh + rims.
Kia sorento diesel also in my list but thats $164k now
Edited by Rayoflight, 04 January 2016 - 11:25 PM.
Do any of you guys know if the face lift would include GPS? Thanks!
I'm also in the same situation.Headache man.. Thinking whether to change to a 7seater suv like Xtrail or a performance suv like Forester XT. Haha
Kia sorento diesel also in my list but thats $164k now
These 2 cars are in my shortlist with the FXT on top due to the power.
However, the XT has 2 emergency seats should I need(it's not a true 7 seater as the rear seats are terrible) , slightly better equipment level(dvd, gps, all view cam) and probable cheaper maintenance and better fc.
Unlikely to get GPS. It was my concern as well initially. But realise getting an external unit has its perks too.�
1. The voice navigation won't interrupt your songs or radio and you can use the function of the centre console for other purpose.
2. Can double up as a screen for front camera in case you need to park head it.
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Its likely to be using the same clarion head unit as current model. �
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I'm also in the same situation.
These 2 cars are in my shortlist with the FXT on top due to the power.
However, the XT has 2 emergency seats should I need(it's not a true 7 seater as the rear seats are terrible) , slightly better equipment level(dvd, gps, all view cam) and probable cheaper maintenance and better fc.
My consideration was outback or X trail initially. My mind all set on outback initially. But i set on getting forester xt now.
I test drove both outback and x trail. Outback is way much enjoyable to drive then X trail.
Dun consider the X trail for the 2 additional seats as its far too dangerous to sit there if there is rear collision. And its really uncomfortable.
X trail is way too sluggish and clumsy for my likely coming from a lancer ex 1.5 which is not exactly powerful. And the turning radius sucks.
It has better equipment i must agree though.
All those 360 view camera and GPS can be added aftermarket into forester if really such a concern.
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There is no maintenance difference unless its FC. Its 100,000km or 5 years warranty.
I take the price difference between outback or x trail and the road tax as rebate for my increased fuel consumption to get the FXT.
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In exchange, i get to drive a nice powerful car than i know i will enjoy getting into everyday.
I'm also in the same situation.
These 2 cars are in my shortlist with the FXT on top due to the power.
However, the XT has 2 emergency seats should I need(it's not a true 7 seater as the rear seats are terrible) , slightly better equipment level(dvd, gps, all view cam) and probable cheaper maintenance and better fc.
seems like a lot of people looking at the same cars.
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qashqai also not bad if you don't need 7 seats. the 1.2T seems damm value for money
Edited by siausin, 05 January 2016 - 12:07 PM.
Finally booked an XT after a couple of months of internal meeting with wife boss. She really likes cashcai 2.0 interiors and look but as much as I like cashcai I like XT even more for its more manly look and performance and cheaper price too. I prevail.
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Congratulations! Mind sharing your deal with us?
I'm also in the same situation.
These 2 cars are in my shortlist with the FXT on top due to the power.
However, the XT has 2 emergency seats should I need(it's not a true 7 seater as the rear seats are terrible) , slightly better equipment level(dvd, gps, all view cam) and probable cheaper maintenance and better fc.
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My mileage per year is about 25k so im also thinking of the turbo diesel option..
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The savings from buying a Xtrail/FXT compared to buying a Sorento is already quite substantial.
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124k vs 134k vs 164k
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Currently driving BMW 316i:
25,000km.. each pump avg 650km so i will pump about 38 times a year and each time full tank is $100 after discount = $3900 a year on petrol
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Sorento 2.2D -
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2.2L Diesel road tax = $2200 per year
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Diesel per litre after discount is about $1
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Assuming 60L full tank, $60 each pump, 38 pumps per year : =$2280
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$2200+$2280= $4480 per year
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10years = $44,800
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XTRAIL/ FXT 2.0L petrol
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2L road tax - $1200 per year
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Petrol (95) per litre after discount is avg $1.85 (this is more volatile than stock mkt)
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Assuming 60L full tank, avg $110 full tank 38 pumps per year : $4180
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$1200 + $4180 = $5380
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10 years = $53,800
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So there's about savings of $9,000 over 10years (900 per year) however Sorento is 30k-40k more expensive.
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I hope my calculation is correct.. actually like that calculate like not much savings also.. $900 per year nia.
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Of course, just assumption only. Somemore petrol price is very volatile.
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I think ultimately i like the option of having a 7seater.. i have a 7mths old now.. probably incoming another one in 2017.. so sometimes with in laws, really need the extra seats.
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Having driven a subaru autowrx before, i really like how powerful and firm subaru cars are..
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Another option will be Citroen Grand Picasso diesel
Edited by Rayoflight, 05 January 2016 - 12:45 PM.
My consideration was outback or X trail initially. My mind all set on outback initially. But i set on getting forester xt now.
I test drove both outback and x trail. Outback is way much enjoyable to drive then X trail.
Dun consider the X trail for the 2 additional seats as its far too dangerous to sit there if there is rear collision. And its really uncomfortable.
X trail is way too sluggish and clumsy for my likely coming from a lancer ex 1.5 which is not exactly powerful. And the turning radius sucks.
It has better equipment i must agree though.
All those 360 view camera and GPS can be added aftermarket into forester if really such a concern.
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There is no maintenance difference unless its FC. Its 100,000km or 5 years warranty.
I take the price difference between outback or x trail and the road tax as rebate for my increased fuel consumption to get the FXT.
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In exchange, i get to drive a nice powerful car than i know i will enjoy getting into everyday.
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After driving a turbocharged car, very unlikely to head back to NA.. haha
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i just watched this and they mentioned the boot is made of plastic to save weight.. wah like that... no really safe leh
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Will cross out Xtrail from my buylist liao..
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is it true it's 2 airbags only?
Edited by Rayoflight, 05 January 2016 - 12:57 PM.
After driving a turbocharged car, very unlikely to head back to NA.. haha
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i just watched this and they mentioned the boot is made of plastic to save weight.. wah like that... no really safe leh
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Will cross out Xtrail from my buylist liao..
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is it true it's 2 airbags only?
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Think local abit different. I remember local got more airbags. Local also got sunroof.
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Also, most trims are plastic anyway, it's the internal structure that counts. I believe the Xtrail is still very safe.
Edited by Pocus, 05 January 2016 - 01:03 PM.
Malaysia X trail is assembled in Malaysia and is half the price of the forester in malaysia. (i think..if not close to half). Our sg version is from japan. Cannot take the MY version to compare in terms of specs and safety.�
Edited by Redfur, 05 January 2016 - 01:46 PM.
Bros,... sorry to hijack this thread,...
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Am looking for a good reliable Subaru workshop.
Currently driving 2.0 NA 2009 Forester.
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I know there's a specialist in the Woodlands area,.. but where?
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Kindly let me know the Name and address of the workshop.
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Much appreciate.� Cheers.
Edited by Bobucw, 05 January 2016 - 02:56 PM.
Bros,... sorry to hijack this thread,...
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Am looking for a good reliable Subaru workshop.
Currently driving 2.0 NA 2009 Forester.
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I know there's a specialist in the Woodlands area,.. but where?
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Kindly let me know the Name and address of the workshop.
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Much appreciate.� Cheers.
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http://bksmotorworks.com/contact.php
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10 Admiralty Street#03-80 North Link Building
Singapore 757695
Tel : +65 6484 6366 Mobile : +65 9239 4711 Fax : +65 6853 3514 Email : bks.com
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I was checking with my workshop as I was also looking into the diesel option(3 year old Sorento Euro 4) as my 7 year old car is approaching 180k km. I was informed that diesel cars have higher maintenance costs as the parts are much more expensive and also harder to get. Can't remember the exact name of the item but some parts cost 2x that of commonly available petrol variants. Maybe some bros driving diesel cars can chime in on this?
My mileage per year is about 25k so im also thinking of the turbo diesel option..
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The savings from buying a Xtrail/FXT compared to buying a Sorento is already quite substantial.
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124k vs 134k vs 164k
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Currently driving BMW 316i:
25,000km.. each pump avg 650km so i will pump about 38 times a year and each time full tank is $100 after discount = $3900 a year on petrol
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Sorento 2.2D -
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2.2L Diesel road tax = $2200 per year
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Diesel per litre after discount is about $1
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Assuming 60L full tank, $60 each pump, 38 pumps per year : =$2280
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$2200+$2280= $4480 per year
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10years = $44,800
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XTRAIL/ FXT 2.0L petrol
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2L road tax - $1200 per year
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Petrol (95) per litre after discount is avg $1.85 (this is more volatile than stock mkt)
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Assuming 60L full tank, avg $110 full tank 38 pumps per year : $4180
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$1200 + $4180 = $5380
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10 years = $53,800
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So there's about savings of $9,000 over 10years (900 per year) however Sorento is 30k-40k more expensive.
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I hope my calculation is correct.. actually like that calculate like not much savings also.. $900 per year nia.
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Of course, just assumption only. Somemore petrol price is very volatile.
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I think ultimately i like the option of having a 7seater.. i have a 7mths old now.. probably incoming another one in 2017.. so sometimes with in laws, really need the extra seats.
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Having driven a subaru autowrx before, i really like how powerful and firm subaru cars are..
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Another option will be Citroen Grand Picasso diesel
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http://bksmotorworks.com/contact.php
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10 Admiralty Street
#03-80 North Link Building
Singapore 757695
Tel : +65 6484 6366 Mobile : +65 9239 4711 Fax : +65 6853 3514 Email : bks.com
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Thank you.
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Do they charge reasonably?
Need to replace timing belt etc.
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Which outlet is better?.... Ang Mo Kio or Admiralty?
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Cheers again,... much appreciate.
Bks has been around for ages. Pro subaru wkshop. Not sure of the charges now but should be 700-800 plus for timing belt changeThank you.
Do they charge reasonably?
Need to replace timing belt etc.
Which outlet is better?.... Ang Mo Kio or Admiralty?
Cheers again,... much appreciate.
Bks has been around for ages. Pro subaru wkshop. Not sure of the charges now but should be 700-800 plus for timing belt change
Edited by Bobucw, 05 January 2016 - 06:52 PM.
I use BKS at AMK a few time for my sg9 forester previously but stop going already.Bks has been around for ages. Pro subaru wkshop. Not sure of the charges now but should be 700-800 plus for timing belt change
Cos most of the time they always have the I owe them a million dollars face.
Give them business also give me attitude.
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http://bksmotorworks.com/contact.php
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#03-80 North Link Building
Singapore 757695
Tel : +65 6484 6366 Mobile : +65 9239 4711 Fax : +65 6853 3514 Email : bks.com
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Seriously??? Thats where my office is! lol
Haha i used to go bms then went to dynotechnica for my autorex.I use BKS at AMK a few time for my sg9 forester previously but stop going already.
Cos most of the time they always have the I owe them a million dollars face.
Give them business also give me attitude.
Bms charges gst
Try to find a workshop which doesnt charge gst.. If not extra 7%
Normally when change timing belt, comes with other parts replacement.. They will tell u need to change this and that etc
Malaysia X trail is assembled in Malaysia and is half the price of the forester in malaysia. (i think..if not close to half). Our sg version is from japan. Cannot take the MY version to compare in terms of specs and safety.�
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I don't see why it being assembled in MY can allow plastic and JP version is not?
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Maybe someone can confirm this?�
Check with Tan chong singapore and Tan Chong malaysia for accurate answer on your question?I don't see why it being assembled in MY can allow plastic and JP version is not?
Maybe someone can confirm this?
If the nissan Xtrail is equipped with turbo.. plastic door also ok la..
Edited by Chucky2007, 06 January 2016 - 01:24 AM.
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The new forester FL �code is call SJG D? in case anyone want to search for more info on youtube.
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