Thứ Năm, 29 tháng 12, 2016

2015 Forester 2.0 part 20

  • 27 January 2016 - 07:03 PM
    sunnymonk
    I will not be able to say what and when to go in as it's a personal thing that each of us feel. If yes, then I can go buy toto liao lol.

    I set my target after considering all external factors and also my own financial situation. Of course I have to be realistic and not expect a 10k COE.

    At the same time, I would like to see the new XT in the flesh before I commit to anything.
  • 28 January 2016 - 10:20 AM
    Kelfinity
    Anyone knows what the true avg FC for NA and XT? Heard its pretty bad at 10 and 9km/l?
    Am thinking of either forester or xtrail. Any advice?
  • 28 January 2016 - 10:29 AM
    Laurencelau

    I'm driving a XT, mileage travelled 5100km. 10km +- per litre FC is what I'm getting.� Travel mainly around neighbhood.�

    Consider quite good FC for such a big car, all wheel drive.


  • 28 January 2016 - 11:05 AM
    Stdfrank

    Anyone know when will the facelift FXT be on displayed in leng kee?

    It is already there, behind the curtain...ask se to show you.
  • 28 January 2016 - 11:08 AM
    evo171

    It is already there, behind the curtain...ask se to show you.

    Think behind curtain is the NA version, XT not yet. Or has it come already?

    Edited by evo171, 28 January 2016 - 11:09 AM.

  • 28 January 2016 - 11:21 AM
    sunnymonk

    Think behind curtain is the NA version, XT not yet. Or has it come already?

    Nope XT not here yet.

    Kelfinity I think 10/9 is not bad for a SUV of this size with AWD.

    If I can get that, I will take it for sure.

    Both XT and X-Trail are on my shortlist but XT edges ahead due to the power. The lack of power in X-Trail is glaring to me after driving them both. In return you have to give up things like all view camera, 2 emergency seats, DVD player, slightly bigger sunroof, slightly bigger boot.

    Depends on your priorities really.


  • 28 January 2016 - 11:37 AM
    Mkl22

    whats the latest price for the XT? some say as low as 115k.


  • 28 January 2016 - 12:06 PM
    Hamiles69

    Dear bros,

    Any idea how much price diff for 17" and 18" per tyre?

    NA is 17" and XT is 18". It is also one of the factor that I need to consider in my budget. [:p]


  • 28 January 2016 - 12:10 PM
    evo171

    whats the latest price for the XT? some say as low as 115k.

    No way. $115k would probably be for NA previously. Currently px list (http://www.subaru.as...o/pricelist.pdf) shows at $122.8k. Depending on discount, maybe $119.8k plus minus.
  • 28 January 2016 - 12:46 PM
    Nav14

    Dear bros,

    Any idea how much price diff for 17" and 18" per tyre?

    NA is 17" and XT is 18". It is also one of the factor that I need to consider in my budget. [:p]

    If one can afford a $100K+ car, paying marginally more for 3-4 replacements of tyres during a car's lifespan should not be a factor.

    If this is the deciding factor, then suggest that if you do buy the version with original 18" rims , to immediately trade in and downgrade to 17" the moment you drive out of the showroom. The trade in price for original rims can be very attractive and with downgrading to a smaller sized rim, you may end up paying very little like $200-$300 or lesser for the switch, And smaller rims� with thicker profile tyres are more comfortable.


  • 28 January 2016 - 02:56 PM
    JancieTeo

    Not worth at all. Opt out of solar film and refund $50 and do outside. The free sarasin film cannot make it all all

    but if upgrade will be like those good solar film already ma? what is sarasin film btw lol


  • 28 January 2016 - 02:57 PM
    Wondertree

    Dear bros,

    Any idea how much price diff for 17" and 18" per tyre?

    NA is 17" and XT is 18". It is also one of the factor that I need to consider in my budget. [:p]

    18" is definitely the way to go. 17 looks smallish in life.


  • 28 January 2016 - 03:01 PM
    Chucky2007

    but if upgrade will be like those good solar film already ma? what is sarasin film btw lol

    Sorry phone autocorrect. I meant solar film

    18" is definitely the way to go. 17 looks smallish in life.

    Depending on look.. if mounting offroad tyres, those thick aggressive looking type, 16-17 looks much better than 18"

    Dear bros,

    Any idea how much price diff for 17" and 18" per tyre?

    NA is 17" and XT is 18". It is also one of the factor that I need to consider in my budget. [:p]

    Between 17-18, the difference is around 50-100 per tyre
  • 28 January 2016 - 03:03 PM
    sunnymonk

    Dear bros,

    Any idea how much price diff for 17" and 18" per tyre?

    NA is 17" and XT is 18". It is also one of the factor that I need to consider in my budget. [:p]

    My Impreza's 17" Goodyear Eagle F1 costs $160 per tyre. 18" should not cost more than $200 I reckon.

    It's a negligible cost really and considering the 18" looks nicer, I would choose the 18" for sure.

    The only issue I foresee like what many have listed is the uncommon size of the tyres 225/55 R18 which makes replacement choice limited. Having read this entire thread, we are advised to change to 235/50 R18 which is more common.


    Edited by sunnymonk, 28 January 2016 - 03:08 PM.

  • 28 January 2016 - 03:41 PM
    Nav14

    My Impreza's 17" Goodyear Eagle F1 costs $160 per tyre. 18" should not cost more than $200 I reckon.

    It's a negligible cost really and considering the 18" looks nicer, I would choose the 18" for sure.

    The only issue I foresee like what many have listed is the uncommon size of the tyres 225/55 R18 which makes replacement choice limited. Having read this entire thread, we are advised to change to 235/50 R18 which is more common.

    Go for� 235/55/18 as it will be less bumpy than the 235/50/18. I have the Michelin Latitude Tour HP in 235/55/18 on my SUV and no complaints. But will cost at least $300 each.�Usually used as OEM tyre for Lexus SUVs


  • 28 January 2016 - 03:57 PM
    Yeshe

    Anyone knows what the true avg FC for NA and XT? Heard its pretty bad at 10 and 9km/l?
    Am thinking of either forester or xtrail. Any advice?

    Bro, 9 or 10 km/l for suv is very good leow
  • 28 January 2016 - 04:28 PM
    Mkl22

    Go for� 235/55/18 as it will be less bumpy than the 235/50/18. I have the Michelin Latitude Tour HP in 235/55/18 on my SUV and no complaints. But will cost at least $300 each.�Usually used as OEM tyre for Lexus SUVs

    only problem is stock rims are 18x7in. 7in rims are a little too narrow to fit 235/55R18.


  • 28 January 2016 - 11:09 PM
    Sarion

    only problem is stock rims are 18x7in. 7in rims are a little too narrow to fit 235/55R18.

    think some bros already advised alternate size before. anyway Stamford advised 235/50R18, which you can get many good performance tyres / road tyres for.

    Just imagine Stamford does not even carry Continental Cross Contact in 225/55R18.

    and unlikely to have good performance tyre at the Forester 18" sizing for $200.

    my current Michelin PS3 already at $185 each for 225/45R17... it's close to $300 for the SUV 18" size.


  • 29 January 2016 - 02:32 PM
    Singtel88

    Hi all

    I sign on dot line last sunday.. only able collect car end march early april.. hope can collect car XT car soon...

    Base on SE say what we order now they will delivery with 2016 model.. so far they cant give alot info on the 2016 model is kind sad..

    I have saw alot info what you guys have share out 2016 model.. hope is the same as we see...


  • 30 January 2016 - 01:18 AM
    Chucky2007

    Hi all

    I sign on dot line last sunday.. only able collect car end march early april.. hope can collect car XT car soon...

    Base on SE say what we order now they will delivery with 2016 model.. so far they cant give alot info on the 2016 model is kind sad..

    I have saw alot info what you guys have share out 2016 model.. hope is the same as we see...

    Jialat... the poison will start the day you collect your car... prepare for lighter wallet from arch onwards..
  • 30 January 2016 - 04:41 AM
    BenTong

    Hi all

    I sign on dot line last sunday.. only able collect car end march early april.. hope can collect car XT car soon...

    Base on SE say what we order now they will delivery with 2016 model.. so far they cant give alot info on the 2016 model is kind sad..

    I have saw alot info what you guys have share out 2016 model.. hope is the same as we see...

    What's the deal you got?
  • 30 January 2016 - 11:12 AM
    Hamiles69

    Can the back row seated 2 Adults and 3 kids (age between 6 to 12)? Adults are women. Anyone bros can share their experience?

    I like Forester but due to my family size (Me, CO, MIL, 3 kids and maid), my CO prefers MPV (Wish or Mazda 5 or Ody).


  • 30 January 2016 - 11:27 AM
    Mkl22

    Can the back row seated 2 Adults and 3 kids (age between 6 to 12)? Adults are women. Anyone bros can share their experience?

    I like Forester but due to my family size (Me, CO, MIL, 3 kids and maid), my CO prefers MPV (Wish or Mazda 5 or Ody).

    No way unless you break the law and put your kids at risk. Safer to have one seat belt per person
  • 30 January 2016 - 11:27 AM
    Singtel88

    What's the deal you got?


    119800 6 bid non guarantee bid no extra free thing I opt for black edtition TOP up near 5k.. Standard thing like solor firm they will throw in
  • 30 January 2016 - 12:16 PM
    sunnymonk

    119800 6 bid non guarantee bid no extra free thing I opt for black edtition TOP up near 5k.. Standard thing like solor firm they will throw in

    Prices still so stiff huh.

    Rebate level still at 43k? or lower?


    Can the back row seated 2 Adults and 3 kids (age between 6 to 12)? Adults are women. Anyone bros can share their experience?

    I like Forester but due to my family size (Me, CO, MIL, 3 kids and maid), my CO prefers MPV (Wish or Mazda 5 or Ody).

    Hate to break it to you but your wife is right.

    With so many people, you absolutely need a full sized MPV like Ody. Else it's a pain for them to squeeze in a 5 seater.


  • 30 January 2016 - 12:41 PM
    BenTong

    Can the back row seated 2 Adults and 3 kids (age between 6 to 12)? Adults are women. Anyone bros can share their experience?

    I like Forester but due to my family size (Me, CO, MIL, 3 kids and maid), my CO prefers MPV (Wish or Mazda 5 or Ody).

    With your family think better take ody or alphard or estima.. If you insist on Subaru... Still doable. Get a forester and an outback
  • 30 January 2016 - 01:15 PM
    Rayoflight
    Ody, estima/veilfire/alphard prices are also much higher than a fxt.. At least 30-50k more
  • 30 January 2016 - 01:52 PM
    Quantum

    Prices still so stiff huh.
    Rebate level still at 43k? or lower?

    Hate to break it to you but your wife is right.
    With so many people, you absolutely need a full sized MPV like Ody. Else it's a pain for them to squeeze in a 5 seater.

    It will be Overload for FXT also,
    Outback or mz5 is good option, standard 7 seat MPV
  • 30 January 2016 - 02:07 PM
    Mkl22

    With your family think better take ody or alphard or estima.. If you insist on Subaru... Still doable. Get a forester and an outback

    Go for a wish. Now 109888 at Borneo. Will be a simple and relatively cheap car to run about as a people carrier. Parts aplenty and super reliable
  • 30 January 2016 - 07:30 PM
    Singtel88
    [quote name="sunnymonk" post="5714750" timestamp="1454127409"]

    Prices still so stiff huh.
    Rebate level still at 43k? or lower?

    Yes same 43k
  • 30 January 2016 - 07:53 PM
    Ct3833

    No way unless you break the law and put your kids at risk. Safer to have one seat belt per person

    Hi, you may want to consider mit outlander, they have 7 seater option and the price would be between those fill size mpv and forester.
  • 30 January 2016 - 08:07 PM
    sunnymonk
    For anyone interested in new XT,please make your way to Leng Kee. Was told by SE FL XT is available for viewing. I didn't go down as I was told no test drive allowed.
  • 30 January 2016 - 08:32 PM
    7hm

    Can the back row seated 2 Adults and 3 kids (age between 6 to 12)? Adults are women. Anyone bros can share their experience?

    I like Forester but due to my family size (Me, CO, MIL, 3 kids and maid), my CO prefers MPV (Wish or Mazda 5 or Ody).

    Your CO has the right idea... in your case you might want to look at cars like Ford Grand C-Max or S-Max, those are still cars known for driving enjoyment.


  • 30 January 2016 - 08:36 PM
    BenTong

    For anyone interested in new XT,please make your way to Leng Kee. Was told by SE FL XT is available for viewing. I didn't go down as I was told no test drive allowed.

    Any idea what's the package like?
    I thought someone Brother in law is a SE MI. Got lobang for reasonable deal?
  • 30 January 2016 - 09:21 PM
    sunnymonk

    Any idea what's the package like?
    I thought someone Brother in law is a SE MI. Got lobang for reasonable deal?


    No idea as I didn't ask. I'll only ask when next round of coe drops haha.
  • 30 January 2016 - 09:55 PM
    BenTong

    No idea as I didn't ask. I'll only ask when next round of coe drops haha.

    Me too.. Hee Hee actually I am torn between the FXT and the Outback. One a chionger the other a cruiser...
  • 30 January 2016 - 10:27 PM
    sunnymonk

    Me too.. Hee Hee actually I am torn between the FXT and the Outback. One a chionger the other a cruiser...

    I get you bro. Actually for my family needs, a bigger boot is higher on the priority list and this is where Outback wins FXT. Equipment level wise, Outback also wins in terms of quality and also has electronic hand brake.

    But then road tax is not so friendly and power is smooth rather than urgent like the FXT. Plus I think Outback will be harder to sell later compared to FXT.

    My wife actually prefers the Outback but I prefer the more SUV look. Anyway will wait for COE to drop and then decide one and for all

    Edited by sunnymonk, 30 January 2016 - 10:27 PM.

  • 31 January 2016 - 11:29 AM
    Hamiles69

    Ody, estima/veilfire/alphard prices are also much higher than a fxt.. At least 30-50k more

    I agreed. Price are very ex. At least Forester still within my budget.


    With your family think better take ody or alphard or estima.. If you insist on Subaru... Still doable. Get a forester and an outback

    Most of the time will be 1A and 3C. I believe forester backseat is enought space right?

    I mean 1A & 3C at backseat.


    Edited by Hamiles69, 31 January 2016 - 11:38 AM.

  • 31 January 2016 - 11:31 AM
    BenTong

    I agreed. Price are very ex. At least Forester still within my budget.



    Most of the time will be 1A and 3C. I believe forester backseat is enought space right?

    Oh then more options. The XV can do the job
  • 31 January 2016 - 11:38 AM
    BenTong

    119800 6 bid non guarantee bid no extra free thing I opt for black edtition TOP up near 5k.. Standard thing like solor firm they will throw in

    Black option ? What's the difference?
  • 31 January 2016 - 11:40 AM
    Hamiles69

    Oh then more options. The XV can do the job

    Bro BenTong,

    Think XV space is smaller than Forester. Will not shortlist XV.


  • 31 January 2016 - 01:06 PM
    BenTong

    Sorry I don't mean to double post but I can't edit my earlier post.

    Here's another pic.
    Hope I don't get my SE in trouble.

    This is the new FL NA
  • 31 January 2016 - 02:29 PM
    Chucky2007

    Can the back row seated 2 Adults and 3 kids (age between 6 to 12)? Adults are women. Anyone bros can share their experience?

    I like Forester but due to my family size (Me, CO, MIL, 3 kids and maid), my CO prefers MPV (Wish or Mazda 5 or Ody).

    Once... my forester have me as driver, my FIL sitting in front, MIL, wife, BIL, SIL, my 2 toddlers sitting on my wife and MIL lap, and niece on SIL lap.

    Once I had 6 grown up adults in car, 1 driver, 1 male front passenger, 4 male passengers at the back.

    I agreed. Price are very ex. At least Forester still within my budget.



    Most of the time will be 1A and 3C. I believe forester backseat is enought space right?

    I mean 1A & 3C at backseat.

    1A 3C conform sufficient space.. but got to really be careful as technically it's 3 pax at the back..
  • 31 January 2016 - 02:30 PM
    BenTong
    For those who can wait there will be a brand new 2017 forester.
  • 31 January 2016 - 02:33 PM
    Chucky2007

    Black option ? What's the difference?

    Black edition got STI gear nod, front STI lips below bumper, rear bumper diffuser, a blackout front grill, a STI tower strut bar in the engine bay.

    For those who can wait there will be a brand new 2017 forester.

    Reach SG shores will be 2018 liao..
  • 31 January 2016 - 02:36 PM
    BenTong

    Black edition got STI gear nod, front STI lips below bumper, rear bumper diffuser, a blackout front grill, a STI tower strut bar in the engine bay.
    Reach SG shores will be 2018 liao..

    Go MY Subaru do cheaper. And ya la for those who can wait la.. Apa then
  • 31 January 2016 - 03:11 PM
    Sopskysalat

    I had considered FXT earlier but decided do opt against the driver's car.

    Why? My 2 kids - 3 & 4 years old, my parents (at times) and my wife, should have like another bro had said, one seat belt per passenger.

    Not having to keep and do up car seat for the kids is one primary factor in my decision to go for mpv.

    We are not in the past whereby my parent put my siblings and myself on their lap for car journey.

    I am happy now that when there is more than the 4 of us, the addition can fill up the remaining 3 seats in the mpv.

    Just my thought.

    Once... my forester have me as driver, my FIL sitting in front, MIL, wife, BIL, SIL, my 2 toddlers sitting on my wife and MIL lap, and niece on SIL lap.

    Once I had 6 grown up adults in car, 1 driver, 1 male front passenger, 4 male passengers at the back.
    1A 3C conform sufficient space.. but got to really be careful as technically it's 3 pax at the back..


  • 31 January 2016 - 04:00 PM
    Ozkaki

    does the forester comes with a 'hill holder' button to be activated? i saw this in the levorg and i thought this is almost a standard feature now in most car without a need to activate anything..�


  • 31 January 2016 - 05:16 PM
    evo171

    For those who can wait there will be a brand new 2017 forester.

    As in brand new design and not just facelifted?


  • 31 January 2016 - 05:17 PM
    BenTong
    Brand new..
  • 31 January 2016 - 05:29 PM
    7hm

    I get you bro. Actually for my family needs, a bigger boot is higher on the priority list and this is where Outback wins FXT. Equipment level wise, Outback also wins in terms of quality and also has electronic hand brake.

    But then road tax is not so friendly and power is smooth rather than urgent like the FXT. Plus I think Outback will be harder to sell later compared to FXT.

    My wife actually prefers the Outback but I prefer the more SUV look. Anyway will wait for COE to drop and then decide one and for all

    To me Outback is the one with the true fierce SUV look... it even has a reinforced undercarriage plating with scuff plates for actual rough terrain. I also think the Outback is a good choice apart from the lack of the 2.0L turbo in the XT.


  • 31 January 2016 - 08:55 PM
    Nav14

    Black edition got STI gear nod, front STI lips below bumper, rear bumper diffuser, a blackout front grill, a STI tower strut bar in the engine bay.
    Reach SG shores will be 2018 liao..

    The last Forester lasted 6 yrs (2007 -2013). Assuming 6 yrs cycle again for current model which was introduced in 2013, then the next complete new model should arrive early 2019?
  • 31 January 2016 - 09:08 PM
    Mkl22

    For those who can wait there will be a brand new 2017 forester.


    Should be in late 2018. Every 5-6years or so. The current one came out in late 2012So we should see a new one probably also in mid to late 2018. And when it reaches for sale after all the testing and delays by lta it will be mid 2019

    Edited by Mkl22, 31 January 2016 - 09:13 PM.

  • 31 January 2016 - 09:15 PM
    Mkl22

    To me Outback is the one with the true fierce SUV look... it even has a reinforced undercarriage plating with scuff plates for actual rough terrain. I also think the Outback is a good choice apart from the lack of the 2.0L turbo in the XT.

    Yes with the same engine as the XT it might be a better car. They should kill the old 2.5 boxer.
  • 31 January 2016 - 10:06 PM
    Sarion

    Went down to Leng Kee today, a nice SE brought me to Level2 to see the FL XT when I enquired. Metallic brown. think besides the lack of EyeSight3, everything else probably there. Even had memory seats for driver.

    never realized that the steering wheel feels quite compact compared to my Legacy's, means I probably don't have to change to a DAMD haha.... have to measure next time to be sure.

    and for those who wonder how the STi kits look like, the LengKee Pre-FL white Forester is on it. you can see if you like the front lip and rear diffuser.

    waiting patiently for official launch and test drive....


  • 31 January 2016 - 10:08 PM
    sunnymonk

    Yes with the same engine as the XT it might be a better car. They should kill the old 2.5 boxer.

    Agreed.

    Higher road tax and lower power don't make sense.


  • 31 January 2016 - 10:41 PM
    jedi2804

    Went down to Leng Kee today, a nice SE brought me to Level2 to see the FL XT when I enquired. Metallic brown. think besides the lack of EyeSight3, everything else probably there. Even had memory seats for driver.

    never realized that the steering wheel feels quite compact compared to my Legacy's, means I probably don't have to change to a DAMD haha.... have to measure next time to be sure.

    and for those who wonder how the STi kits look like, the LengKee Pre-FL white Forester is on it. you can see if you like the front lip and rear diffuser.

    waiting patiently for official launch and test drive....

    Does FL XT come with GPS?


  • 01 February 2016 - 12:10 AM
    Hamiles69

    Once... my forester have me as driver, my FIL sitting in front, MIL, wife, BIL, SIL, my 2 toddlers sitting on my wife and MIL lap, and niece on SIL lap.

    Once I had 6 grown up adults in car, 1 driver, 1 male front passenger, 4 male passengers at the back.
    1A 3C conform sufficient space.. but got to really be careful as technically it's 3 pax at the back..

    Wow Bro. seems that Forester is good enough to cater for 4A and 2C in backseat :grin: . Make me more tempted to go for Forester. :a-m1212:


    Went down to Leng Kee today, a nice SE brought me to Level2 to see the FL XT when I enquired. Metallic brown. think besides the lack of EyeSight3, everything else probably there. Even had memory seats for driver.

    never realized that the steering wheel feels quite compact compared to my Legacy's, means I probably don't have to change to a DAMD haha.... have to measure next time to be sure.

    and for those who wonder how the STi kits look like, the LengKee Pre-FL white Forester is on it. you can see if you like the front lip and rear diffuser.

    waiting patiently for official launch and test drive....

    Bro, how's the Metallic Brown? Does this colour look good? So far never see this colour on the road yet. Can share your opinion?


  • 01 February 2016 - 03:33 AM
    7hm

    Bro, how's the Metallic Brown? Does this colour look good? So far never see this colour on the road yet. Can share your opinion?

    I'm trying to visualize this... and the result is that I don't think the Forester will look good in brown. Normally I think SUVs look good in brown because they look rugged and brown is an earthy color, but the Forester, somehow, no...


  • 01 February 2016 - 08:33 AM
    Chucky2007
    If you are gonna Ferry 5-6 passenger every day (7-8 pax including druver), the forester or even Outlander is not the car to go for.

    If the 5-6 passenger is just weekend affair, or even occasionally on weekend then still ok bec really want safety with seat belt can take taxi..
    My household have 6 adults 3 kids.. but daily driving is only me and wife. Weekend with 2 kids, once every 3 weeks to 1 month then with another 2 adults or even 5 adults (but seldom). But if to cater to occasional weekend Ferry and get MPV.. I wouldn't do it la.


    I'm trying to visualize this... and the result is that I don't think the Forester will look good in brown. Normally I think SUVs look good in brown because they look rugged and brown is an earthy color, but the Forester, somehow, no...


    Not sure if forester is available in brown..maybe have but not popular even if have bec think have never seen it before on road. Seen brown SUV from Honda, Toyota, BMW, Nissan, VW, Volvo, Audi, Mercedes, but none before for subaru leh

    Edited by Chucky2007, 01 February 2016 - 08:35 AM.

  • 01 February 2016 - 08:38 AM
    Tohto

    Wow Bro. seems that Forester is good enough to cater for 4A and 2C in backseat :grin: . Make me more tempted to go for Forester. :a-m1212:


    Bro, how's the Metallic Brown? Does this colour look good? So far never see this colour on the road yet. Can share your opinion?

    For the safety of your love one, please don't do this.

    Always have enough seat belt for everyone on board� [thumbsup][thumbsup]


  • 01 February 2016 - 08:40 AM
    Macrosszero

    Someone once told me the analogy (was it JC on Top Gear?) that it would be silly to wear spiked golfing shoes every day just because of the one day of the week you go play golf.

    Similarly, unless you go out every day of the week with all the bigs and smalls, it is eminently illogical to drive around a 7-8 seater just because of the occasional family trip. Aside from carting around all that air, you end up being the office lunch bus. And colleagues don't take care of your car, and after a while, take it for granted - the time, petrol, and parking.�

    I'd say getting something within your nuclear family unit is good enough.


  • 01 February 2016 - 09:58 AM
    Nav14

    If you are gonna Ferry 5-6 passenger every day (7-8 pax including druver), the forester or even Outlander is not the car to go for.

    If the 5-6 passenger is just weekend affair, or even occasionally on weekend then still ok bec really want safety with seat belt can take taxi..
    My household have 6 adults 3 kids.. but daily driving is only me and wife. Weekend with 2 kids, once every 3 weeks to 1 month then with another 2 adults or even 5 adults (but seldom). But if to cater to occasional weekend Ferry and get MPV.. I wouldn't do it la.



    Not sure if forester is available in brown..maybe have but not popular even if have bec think have never seen it before on road. Seen brown SUV from Honda, Toyota, BMW, Nissan, VW, Volvo, Audi, Mercedes, but none before for subaru leh

    The new colour supposed to be Sepia Bronze. So may not be the standard brown colour that could have been visualised without looking at it in flesh.

    Hopefully not like Qashqai's Bronze colour which looks more brownish than bronze.


  • 01 February 2016 - 10:24 AM
    Slowpoke

    Someone once told me the analogy (was it JC on Top Gear?) that it would be silly to wear spiked golfing shoes every day just because of the one day of the week you go play golf.

    Similarly, unless you go out every day of the week with all the bigs and smalls, it is eminently illogical to drive around a 7-8 seater just because of the occasional family trip. Aside from carting around all that air, you end up being the office lunch bus. And colleagues don't take care of your car, and after a while, take it for granted - the time, petrol, and parking.�

    I'd say getting something within your nuclear family unit is good enough.

    Damn, I'm going to Mazda to book the new MX-5 now!�


  • 01 February 2016 - 01:39 PM
    Genes

    Damn, I'm going to Mazda to book the new MX-5 now!�

    You won't be the first one. I know someone who has been doing it for years now.


  • 01 February 2016 - 02:00 PM
    sunnymonk

    The new colour supposed to be Sepia Bronze. So may not be the standard brown colour that could have been visualised without looking at it in flesh.

    Hopefully not like Qashqai's Bronze colour which looks more brownish than bronze.

    Got the pics from the link below(existing colours).

    I have seen the Bronze metallic in SG before. In fact, that was the last XT available pre FL that was offered to me at a good price.

    I don't think there will be a big difference in colour for the new FL models.

    http://www.planetsub...ru-forester.htm

    4f0ba494f9bd447825313b07567f14d3x.jpg


  • 01 February 2016 - 02:17 PM
    Sopskysalat

    True. My initial evaluation is based on similar argument. But still gotten a MPV because the cost of one is the same or lower than the FXT. Thus, I had decided to go for something bigger for the same cost. If I were to compare a say KIA K3 at lower cost against the real requirement of MPV, then the price different is around 20k, so it does not make sense to pay more for those weekend or rare occasion requirement.

    Priorities are different for individual and the cost of shoe is much different from a car that cost say 100x more. We buy one and use it for as long as the COE last. Some prefer driving dynamics while others go for the comfort. I like the performance of FXT, and i can get one with similar specs by getting say S-Max or VW Sharan but the cost justification is at least 40K more. I ended doing a balancing act with a smaller turbo and compact size mpv.

    To end, priorities and most importantly, emotional needs for most including myself.

    Someone once told me the analogy (was it JC on Top Gear?) that it would be silly to wear spiked golfing shoes every day just because of the one day of the week you go play golf.

    Similarly, unless you go out every day of the week with all the bigs and smalls, it is eminently illogical to drive around a 7-8 seater just because of the occasional family trip. Aside from carting around all that air, you end up being the office lunch bus. And colleagues don't take care of your car, and after a while, take it for granted - the time, petrol, and parking.�

    I'd say getting something within your nuclear family unit is good enough.


  • 01 February 2016 - 02:21 PM
    Xefera

    If you are gonna Ferry 5-6 passenger every day (7-8 pax including druver), the forester or even Outlander is not the car to go for.

    If the 5-6 passenger is just weekend affair, or even occasionally on weekend then still ok bec really want safety with seat belt can take taxi..
    My household have 6 adults 3 kids.. but daily driving is only me and wife. Weekend with 2 kids, once every 3 weeks to 1 month then with another 2 adults or even 5 adults (but seldom). But if to cater to occasional weekend Ferry and get MPV.. I wouldn't do it la.



    Not sure if forester is available in brown..maybe have but not popular even if have bec think have never seen it before on road. Seen brown SUV from Honda, Toyota, BMW, Nissan, VW, Volvo, Audi, Mercedes, but none before for subaru leh

    its probably bronze as this is the closest colour to brown.


  • 01 February 2016 - 04:01 PM
    sunnymonk

    True. My initial evaluation is based on similar argument. But still gotten a MPV because the cost of one is the same or lower than the FXT. Thus, I had decided to go for something bigger for the same cost. If I were to compare a say KIA K3 at lower cost against the real requirement of MPV, then the price different is around 20k, so it does not make sense to pay more for those weekend or rare occasion requirement.

    Priorities are different for individual and the cost of shoe is much different from a car that cost say 100x more. We buy one and use it for as long as the COE last. Some prefer driving dynamics while others go for the comfort. I like the performance of FXT, and i can get one with similar specs by getting say S-Max or VW Sharan but the cost justification is at least 40K more. I ended doing a balancing act with a smaller turbo and compact size mpv.

    To end, priorities and most importantly, emotional needs for most including myself.

    Just curious. What car did you get?
    Touran?
  • 01 February 2016 - 04:10 PM
    cmdsea

    Collected my new Forester a couple of weeks ago and have now clocked up about 800kms..

    I have noticed a sort of wheezing/whining noise when I am slowing down from about 15kmh till i come to a standstill. �I presume this is from the CVT but I dont remember noticing it when I went on the test drive.

    I will query this when i go for the 1st servicing but just wondered if anyone else had experienced this and if its considered normal or not.�

    Thanks for any info


  • 01 February 2016 - 05:14 PM
    Singtel88

    Went down to Leng Kee today, a nice SE brought me to Level2 to see the FL XT when I enquired. Metallic brown. think besides the lack of EyeSight3, everything else probably there. Even had memory seats for driver.

    never realized that the steering wheel feels quite compact compared to my Legacy's, means I probably don't have to change to a DAMD haha.... have to measure next time to be sure.

    and for those who wonder how the STi kits look like, the LengKee Pre-FL white Forester is on it. you can see if you like the front lip and rear diffuser.

    waiting patiently for official launch and test drive....

    wow so good... I see this post I drop sms to my SE asking 2016 XT model is it here or not he reply nope.. i just to know how is 2016 model look like... I book a car without know how is look like :(

    You have any photo? if have can pm me?


  • 01 February 2016 - 05:36 PM
    Nav14

    Collected my new Forester a couple of weeks ago and have now clocked up about 800kms..

    I have noticed a sort of wheezing/whining noise when I am slowing down from about 15kmh till i come to a standstill. �I presume this is from the CVT but I dont remember noticing it when I went on the test drive.

    I will query this when i go for the 1st servicing but just wondered if anyone else had experienced this and if its considered normal or not.�

    Thanks for any info

    For any strange sounds that the service advisor says is normal but you feel otherwise, ask to drive the test-drive car. If sound not heard in test drive car then insist that it is abnormal�and which they�must get it repaired.


    Got the pics from the link below(existing colours).

    I have seen the Bronze metallic in SG before. In fact, that was the last XT available pre FL that was offered to me at a good price.

    I don't think there will be a big difference in colour for the new FL models.

    http://www.planetsub...ru-forester.htm

    4f0ba494f9bd447825313b07567f14d3x.jpg

    The Burnished Bronze� Metallic has been replaced by Sephia Bronze. So what is posted above not for the latest range of colours.


    Edited by Nav14, 01 February 2016 - 05:36 PM.

  • 01 February 2016 - 05:55 PM
    sunnymonk
    Nav14 yes, disclaimer already listed above(existing colour). But I don't think it's that far off. Cos if I Google sepia bronze, it's very near to the brown I saw in the showroom. That was the colour I saw on the old XT.

    Edited by sunnymonk, 01 February 2016 - 06:03 PM.

  • 01 February 2016 - 08:54 PM
    Nav14

    Nav14 yes, disclaimer already listed above(existing colour). But I don't think it's that far off. Cos if I Google sepia bronze, it's very near to the brown I saw in the showroom. That was the colour I saw on the old XT.

    The one I see on the net when searching is at least one tone darker and different shade of bronze.
  • 01 February 2016 - 09:05 PM
    Mkl22

    wow so good... I see this post I drop sms to my SE asking 2016 XT model is it here or not he reply nope.. i just to know how is 2016 model look like... I book a car without know how is look like :(

    You have any photo? if have can pm me?

    h

    Booked already maybe your SE ignore you. I have seen it ion the 2nd level too. Looks good. It also has SRH, Where the headlights turn to follow the steering angle. Not very useful in Singapore as the street lamps are so bright but good for going up north.
  • 01 February 2016 - 09:07 PM
    Nav14

    The one I see on the net when searching is at least one tone darker and different shade of bronze.

    image.jpg

    Is this sephia bronze?
  • 01 February 2016 - 09:27 PM
    sunnymonk
    The bronze I saw was closer to yours than what I posted. Guess it's slightly different colour tones for different markets.
  • 01 February 2016 - 10:11 PM
    Sarion

    wow so good... I see this post I drop sms to my SE asking 2016 XT model is it here or not he reply nope.. i just to know how is 2016 model look like... I book a car without know how is look like :(

    You have any photo? if have can pm me?

    no need photos. I have all info I need to know, just need test drive now and wait for COE to drop.

    here's Subaru Japan website for much more info...

    http://www.subaru.jp...ester/forester/


  • 01 February 2016 - 10:57 PM
    Singtel88

    no need photos. I have all info I need to know, just need test drive now and wait for COE to drop.

    here's Subaru Japan website for much more info...
    http://www.subaru.jp...ester/forester/



    So can I say it come with drl and led head lamp?
    Can add me WhatsApp group chat 98518588

    Fb email singtel88.com
  • 02 February 2016 - 07:28 AM
    BenTong

    no need photos. I have all info I need to know, just need test drive now and wait for COE to drop.

    here's Subaru Japan website for much more info...
    http://www.subaru.jp...ester/forester/

    Test drive and share deal can?
  • 02 February 2016 - 08:28 AM
    Khimwoon

    I'm one of those lurking around waiting for the COE to drop to a sensible region... after comparing the spec of XT and non-XT, the extra goodie for that 10k different I believe its worth it.

    Online reveal that they have improve the handling for the XT too... must test it out once they are available!


  • 02 February 2016 - 10:44 AM
    sunnymonk

    Sorry for noob question.

    Since the stock tires are 225/55/18, can we change the tires to 235/50/18 without any change to rims?

    My initial thought is yes but please correct me if I'm wrong.


  • 02 February 2016 - 10:55 AM
    BenTong

    Someone once told me the analogy (was it JC on Top Gear?) that it would be silly to wear spiked golfing shoes every day just because of the one day of the week you go play golf.

    Similarly, unless you go out every day of the week with all the bigs and smalls, it is eminently illogical to drive around a 7-8 seater just because of the occasional family trip. Aside from carting around all that air, you end up being the office lunch bus. And colleagues don't take care of your car, and after a while, take it for granted - the time, petrol, and parking.

    I'd say getting something within your nuclear family unit is good enough.

    On behalf of his colleagues.. I damn u!!
  • 02 February 2016 - 10:28 PM
    hpy090909

    thinking to get the 2.0 XT but seems like it doesnt come with eyesight 3, is there anyway we can get it aftermarket ?


  • 02 February 2016 - 11:21 PM
    Mugatu

    thinking to get the 2.0 XT but seems like it doesnt come with eyesight 3, is there anyway we can get it aftermarket ?

    I asked sales guy about it before too. Apparently MI refuse to bring it in as it increase the OMV. Sales guy insisted that MI will not bring in the E3 as add-on accessory too. Well, I personally think that all these add-on technology takes away the fun of driving and safety is still best to be in the hand of the driver.


  • 03 February 2016 - 06:47 AM
    BenTong

    wow so good... I see this post I drop sms to my SE asking 2016 XT model is it here or not he reply nope.. i just to know how is 2016 model look like... I book a car without know how is look like :(

    You have any photo? if have can pm me?

    Your SE not good to you. Better change
  • 03 February 2016 - 08:31 AM
    Singtel88

    Your SE not good to you. Better change

    cant change le... I pay for the booking fee....


  • 03 February 2016 - 04:15 PM
    Ml2spin

    [quote name="sunnymonk" post="5714750" timestamp="1454127409"]

    Prices still so stiff huh.
    Rebate level still at 43k? or lower?

    Yes same 43k

    Congrats if you got your COE... your black edition upgrade comes free as you should have COE rebate??


  • 03 February 2016 - 04:26 PM
    Undertaker_s

    Good time to go in and get FXT now. Next round confirm go up.


  • 03 February 2016 - 04:58 PM
    Singtel88

    Congrats if you got your COE... your black edition upgrade comes free as you should have COE rebate??

    i see "Current Bid Status" put accpected so mean i got the coe?? my SE haven even call me yet


  • 03 February 2016 - 05:02 PM
    sunnymonk

    i see "Current Bid Status" put accpected so mean i got the coe?? my SE haven even call me yet

    I would think so. Nice rebate of 5k for you bro.. Happy for you.
  • 03 February 2016 - 05:22 PM
    Ml2spin

    i see "Current Bid Status" put accpected so mean i got the coe?? my SE haven even call me yet

    �Yes, you got your COE.


  • 03 February 2016 - 05:41 PM
    evo171
    XT to be priced below $120k soon?!
  • 03 February 2016 - 06:44 PM
    Tohto

    XT to be priced below $120k soon?!


    Already below 120k for last round..
  • 03 February 2016 - 07:17 PM
    BenTong

    Already below 120k for last round..

    Will it go below &110k?
  • 03 February 2016 - 07:24 PM
    Vinceng

    Sorry for noob question.
    Since the stock tires are 225/55/18, can we change the tires to 235/50/18 without any change to rims?
    My initial thought is yes but please correct me if I'm wrong.


    Yes, u can. But tyre may bulge out of rim a little, which is fine. Prevents kerb rash on rims

    I'm one of those lurking around waiting for the COE to drop to a sensible region... after comparing the spec of XT and non-XT, the extra goodie for that 10k different I believe its worth it.

    Online reveal that they have improve the handling for the XT too... must test it out once they are available!


    Don't wait any longer. Go for it!!!

    Probably at all time low.

    Save even more with non turbo version. I forsee drop to $105k for facelift model.
  • 03 February 2016 - 09:59 PM
    Nav14

    Will it go below &110k?

    If MI factors in the full 11.5k drop in Cat B then the Xt should be priced at around 109k after discounts. Most likely price will be around 114k as they would be expecting at least a 5k jump in the next bidding.
  • 04 February 2016 - 06:51 AM
    BenTong
    When at $140k say wait. Will buy at $130k. When reach $130k blur.. Say wait again. When reach $120k delay again. Now.... ? Human beings are like that...
  • 04 February 2016 - 07:08 AM
    BenTong

    Good time to go in and get FXT now. Next round confirm go up.

    Share with us any special deal...
  • 04 February 2016 - 08:28 AM
    sunnymonk

    When at $140k say wait. Will buy at $130k. When reach $130k blur.. Say wait again. When reach $120k delay again. Now.... ? Human beings are like that...

    Haha who doesn't want a good deal.
    But my wife said, at this rate I don't need to ever buy a car. All around me, people has changed about twice and I'm still driving mine after 7 years.
    So I have set a reasonable price to go in. Cos recently the lack of space is getting more and more frustrating.
  • 04 February 2016 - 09:44 AM
    Undertaker_s

    Share with us any special deal...

    Waiting for SE to let me know the new pricing.


  • 04 February 2016 - 10:54 AM
    Rayoflight
    wah if below 110k can seriously consider liao
  • 04 February 2016 - 07:04 PM
    Swaku

    New list price for XT is $114,800. After discount should be $111,800.


  • 04 February 2016 - 07:42 PM
    BenTong

    New list price for XT is $114,800. After discount should be $111,800.

    Oh u got insider story?
  • 04 February 2016 - 07:54 PM
    Undertaker_s

    New list price for XT is $114,800. After discount should be $111,800.

    Confirm $114800 before discount. My SE just watsapp me the pricelist.


  • 04 February 2016 - 07:56 PM
    BenTong
    Can share price list? Look see look see
  • 04 February 2016 - 08:32 PM
    Cosmicclaw

    Can share price list? Look see look see


    Available in MI Home Page

    Attached Files


  • 04 February 2016 - 08:39 PM
    sunnymonk
    So MI dropped 8k from 122800 to 114800. Less another 4k and still more than 110..
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