This morning had a scare of my life as I experienced my car's ESP kicked in and saved me from crashing.
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Was travelling on centre lane when this Stream suddenly swerve into my lane. As I knew there was no vehicles beside me, I made a sudden avoidance maneuver. Can hear the tyres screeching as I stamped on the brakes and swerve. After recovering, I stopped, wind down my window and shouted at the driver. He apologised and say there is car exiting the carpark and he also trying to avoid it. I told him that he should have stopped and not swerved into me.
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He apologised again. So I left. Thinking of reporting to TP but unable to read the license plate from my videos. So just post it here. I remember its SJNXXXXX.
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No leh ....... I watch 10X lor,� slow down as in counting from as you passby bus lor.
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Anyway, this is a classic scenario in Highway Code, yeah, Highway Code specifically mentioned this scenario.
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Use the kerb markings to see. you can see the point where driver hits the brakes, the kerbs slow down �+ the car dives downwards just a few milliseconds before hitting the reckless boy, but enough to prevent a full speed impact.�
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No leh ....... I watch 10X lor,� slow down as in counting from as you passby bus lor.
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Anyway, this is a classic scenario in Highway Code, yeah, Highway Code specifically mentioned this scenario.
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Ya, I watched 100x and still the same. Car did not slow down when approaching bus stop. By the time the driver brake, it's too late liao. That's why the impact caused the kid flew like Superman.
Ya, I watched 100x and still the same. Car did not slow down when approaching bus stop. By the time the driver brake, it's too late liao. That's why the impact caused the kid flew like Superman.
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i totally agree and i do not dispute but sometimes when i see mroe and more of such incidents, i feel more sorry for the driver rather than the pedestrian.
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Yalor, this type of road I usually drive at 95km/h, so far so good only 2 cases.
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1 case children stop within 6 inches, I give that child a good lesson on the COLORFUL World Language and Hand sign.
1 case Mad Woman, in-out IMH one, I stop within 1 inch. I did nothing as Mad people are mad people.
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Dei, 40km/h bo sala on this road.� Driver not speeding, just cannot react instantaneously to something flying past from�the blind area.�I'd like to see you react�in the same�circumstances.�
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No offence, but if driving defensively that shouldn't have happened. Always expect other road users to be complete idiots, and you'll rarely be disappointed.This morning had a scare of my life as I experienced my car's ESP kicked in and saved me from crashing.
Was travelling on centre lane when this Stream suddenly swerve into my lane. As I knew there was no vehicles beside me, I made a sudden avoidance maneuver. Can hear the tyres screeching as I stamped on the brakes and swerve. After recovering, I stopped, wind down my window and shouted at the driver. He apologised and say there is car exiting the carpark and he also trying to avoid it. I told him that he should have stopped and not swerved into me.
He apologised again. So I left. Thinking of reporting to TP but unable to read the license plate from my videos. So just post it here. I remember its SJNXXXXX.
In this case, the actions of the car were fairly easy to anticipate.
Also, ESP shouldn't be kicking in on a dry road. Maybe it's time for a tyre check. But anyway, if you plan a little ahead, emergency manoeuvres may be avoided, and ESP, ABS etc. won't be activated.
Just some pointers, not meaning to criticise. Anyway, good that there was no accident, and since the guy apologised, let it go. I would.
This morning had a scare of my life as I experienced my car's ESP kicked in and saved me from crashing.
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Was travelling on centre lane when this Stream suddenly swerve into my lane. As I knew there was no vehicles beside me, I made a sudden avoidance maneuver. Can hear the tyres screeching as I stamped on the brakes and swerve. After recovering, I stopped, wind down my window and shouted at the driver. He apologised and say there is car exiting the carpark and he also trying to avoid it. I told him that he should have stopped and not swerved into me.
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He apologised again. So I left. Thinking of reporting to TP but unable to read the license plate from my videos. So just post it here. I remember its SJNXXXXX.
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Stream overreacted slightly by swerving out so much but mostly is the car that is coming out exceeded the white line. People like these cause accidents.�
On what planet is that reckless driving?
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Maybe will kena the standard "fail to keep a proper lookout" blah blah blah
Now that I watch the slow-mo version of the video, the boy could have broken his NECK. This is really scary. I hope he is ok.
This morning had a scare of my life as I experienced my car's ESP kicked in and saved me from crashing.
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Was travelling on centre lane when this Stream suddenly swerve into my lane. As I knew there was no vehicles beside me, I made a sudden avoidance maneuver. Can hear the tyres screeching as I stamped on the brakes and swerve. After recovering, I stopped, wind down my window and shouted at the driver. He apologised and say there is car exiting the carpark and he also trying to avoid it. I told him that he should have stopped and not swerved into me.
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He apologised again. So I left. Thinking of reporting to TP but unable to read the license plate from my videos. So just post it here. I remember its SJNXXXXX.
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Just out of curiosity ---
I notice you were travelling at 70 km/h - what is the speed limit on that section of road?
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Also - the video angle might be misleading, but can see the stream moving braking and moving out and the car coming out from the carpark quite early.�
Easy for me to say in hindsight, but in a situation like that, I often move one lane over in preparation of just such instances (yeah, Monday morning quarterbacking quite bad...which is easy on the video)�
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In short - watching the video, there is a lot of predictability - may not have been like that in real life, but there may be lessons to learn from the video none the less and self examination / reflection�might be worthwhile.
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*Kid was saved by modern car pedestrian safety design, impacted all the right spots, even the bonnet sprung up as a cushion before the body impacted down*
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Just out of curiosity ---
I notice you were travelling at 70 km/h - what is the speed limit on that section of road?
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Also - the video angle might be misleading, but can see the stream moving braking and moving out and the car coming out from the carpark quite early.�
Easy for me to say in hindsight, but in a situation like that, I often move one lane over in preparation of just such instances (yeah, Monday morning quarterbacking quite bad...which is easy on the video)�
�In short - watching the video, there is a lot of predictability - may not have been like that in real life, but there may be lessons to learn from the video none the less and self examination / reflection�might be worthwhile.
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I think arm chair quarterbacks should direct their efforts at playing Madden.� �Seriously lah, give the fella a break.� We all make some minor mistakes when driving everyday, its�a question of whether it�becomes an issue.� �
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Just out of curiosity ---
I notice you were travelling at 70 km/h - what is the speed limit on that section of road?
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Hope the boy is fine.
Feel dam heartpain man. Hope the boy recovers well.
Agree agree...that's why just a gentle gentle "wonder aloud" and not a scoldingI think arm chair quarterbacks should direct their efforts at playing Madden.
Seriously lah, give the fella a break. We all make some minor mistakes when driving everyday, its a question of whether it becomes an issue.
Parents Fault, poor up bringing.� They have this kid to milk wealth out of insurance claim.� This is the sole function of this kid. Very sad.
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Driver Fault, too fast, look like 40km/h to me, never slow down/stop/prepare to stop near blind spot, never attend to victim in a timely manner.
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Boy shd b ok. Walked but in shock. Versatile and flexible collagen with developing epiphysis.
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IMO, the car didn't just exceed the white line. Seems like he didn't even stop at the white line. From the rear camera, can see that the car exiting was taking up the whole left lane already.
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The driver is very careless and only care to reach his destination. Driving in hdb area should be under 50km/h. Obviously he is speeding and distracted. If the boy is my Son, sure I give the driver Teruk Teruk! Be a responsible driver not hurting the minor on the road. Drove on road for more than 25 years, always look out for pedestrians regardless they are on the zebra crossing or not. Hitting someone on the road should be guilty and not try to find fault on the poor kid.
the impact he did is high as the kid might have internal bleeding which might cause him to coma stage on next few days. Just pray he is alright!!! If he dies, driver, all the best to you!!!
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seriously? Did you see the video? The kid dashed across from a blind spot! There is no way the driver could have averted the accident. The onus is on the boy not to have crossed the rd in front of a big vehicle and not watching for traffic.The driver is very careless and only care to reach his destination. Driving in hdb area should be under 50km/h. Obviously he is speeding and distracted. If the boy is my Son, sure I give the driver Teruk Teruk! Be a responsible driver not hurting the minor on the road. Drove on road for more than 25 years, always look out for pedestrians regardless they are on the zebra crossing or not. Hitting someone on the road should be guilty and not try to find fault on the poor kid.
the impact he did is high as the kid might have internal bleeding which might cause him to coma stage on next few days. Just pray he is alright!!! If he dies, driver, all the best to you!!!
we can spare him the blame but we have to blame the parents for failing to teach him to cross the rd safely. I just showed my 11 yo daughter the video and used it as a lesson on crossing the rd safelyHe is a minor though after all. Spare him the blame as he is already suffering.
Gone are the hey days....
Nowadays very desolated. Minimum caretaking. Alot of mosquitoes. Even if you bring your kids, it will just be an empty riding park with simulated roads and structures.
But the main idea about Road Safety Park is to have the "drivers", "riders", "pedestrians", NPCC cadets pretending to be TP to expose the chewren to simulated road conditions and to teach and show them the rules and safety tips in practise.
My son been there as a TP during one NPCC outing. A few primary skool kids called him uncle! LOL!
we can spare him the blame but we have to blame the parents for failing to teach him to cross the rd safely. I just showed my 11 yo daughter the video and used it as a lesson on crossing the rd safely
Well done bro! I showed the video to my son too. He shook his head and tsk tsk tsk!
LOL....you force me to admit my age..... I had been a "TP" "uncle" for 3 times during my secondary school days.....
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My son been there as a TP during one NPCC outing. A few primary skool kids called him uncle! LOL!
Well done bro! I showed the video to my son too. He shook his head and tsk tsk tsk!
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LOL....you force me to admit my age..... I had been a "TP" "uncle" for 3 times during my secondary school days.....
ROFL.... you also force me to admit my age ... Never knew got this park! Huh?
eh.....back in the 70s there was already this kind of exercise in East Coast Safety Park lah! Crap....now u know my age (as if i have never admitted my age here)....LOL....you force me to admit my age..... I had been a "TP" "uncle" for 3 times during my secondary school days.....
From your avatar i think the answer is clear..cb..think i cannibal ah
After watching the video, yes I think it is hard to react in time to avoid hitting the boy, but what happens after the boy is hit? I read that the boy got up and went away before the ambulance came. Did he suffer any major injuries, did the driver alight and offer help, did he report the case to the police, did he take the the contact of the boy, or did he just drove off?
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Yes, I agree is a matter of wrong time wrong place for the driver, bad bad luck is all I can offer him/her as consolation. However, from the footage of the video, and what I have read, it seems like the driver did not offer help to the boy after the accident. Is this correct?
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I think the law state that even if we hit an animal, we are to alight and offer help, otherwise it would be a case of hit and run ( I hope I am correct, please correct me if I am wrong), and it is a human being we are talking about here, and a young helpless one. Never mind the fact that the boy was the cause of the whole incident, the driver did hit him and he flew away.
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I hope the boy learn his lesson, and help to spread the message to his friends and mates on road safety. This also remind us all drivers again, please alight and offer assistance if we ever hit someone, human or animals alike. Never mind who is the cause, we need to make sure that life is not endanger before anything else, less we get sleepless nights and nightmares for the rest of our life...
I wonder what you will say if you are the unlucky driver to encounter a jayRUNNER dashing into the path of your car and you knock him/her down being unable to avoid the collision.
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From the video you can conclude the driver was speeding. Fantastic CSI skill. Please go sign up to join Traffic Police.
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Looks like there are many angry drivers on the road. I believe we have forgotten the basic traffic rules on the road. Though been driving daily on the road. Courtesy and good road sense are still the main core to get home safely to my family. Without harming others, I can sleep better every night and see my kids at home. Being a safe driver is important, please be mindful of words use online. If not, you are no different from the careless driver...please repent before it is too late!!! Life is short, it is important for us to do the right thing, not get things right. I have received multiples ugly words from you guys, no worries, it is not getting me agitated but allow more people to know�that good social etiquette online is significant and we are moving away from it. Please don't regard a child's life to an animal.�He is�human and precious to his family too. Thanks God, he is alive!
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Looks like there are many angry drivers on the road. I believe we have forgotten the basic traffic rules on the road. Though been driving daily on the road. Courtesy and good road sense are still the main core to get home safely to my family. Without harming others, I can sleep better every night and see my kids at home. Being a safe driver is important, please be mindful of words use online. If not, you are no different from the careless driver...please repent before it is too late!!! Life is short, it is important for us to do the right thing, not get things right. I have received multiples ugly words from you guys, no worries, it is not getting me agitated but allow more people to know�that good social etiquette online is significant and we are moving away from it. Please don't regard a child's life to an animal.�He is�human and precious to his family too. Thanks God, he is alive!
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Hope you do not encounter someone like the boy who dashed out without looking. Even if you do, I'm sure your good road sense, lightning quick reflexes and superior car brakes would have saved the day.
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Looks like there are many angry drivers on the road. I believe we have forgotten the basic traffic rules on the road. Though been driving daily on the road. Courtesy and good road sense are still the main core to get home safely to my family. Without harming others, I can sleep better every night and see my kids at home. Being a safe driver is important, please be mindful of words use online. If not, you are no different from the careless driver...please repent before it is too late!!! Life is short, it is important for us to do the right thing, not get things right. I have received multiples ugly words from you guys, no worries, it is not getting me agitated but allow more people to know�that good social etiquette online is significant and we are moving away from it. Please don't regard a child's life to an animal.�He is�human and precious to his family too. Thanks God, he is alive!
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You will have to accept the fact that this is "mycarforum", where most members here are drivers, it would be a very different reaction if you were posting in "kiasu parents" or some other parents major forums...LOL
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However, I am really surprise that you received 50 dislikes for that comment, but well, many of those are just ppl throwing tables and chairs at you after someone throw the first punch, it always feel good to belong to the majority. Move on bro...LOL
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Looks like there are many angry drivers on the road. I believe we have forgotten the basic traffic rules on the road. Though been driving daily on the road. Courtesy and good road sense are still the main core to get home safely to my family. Without harming others, I can sleep better every night and see my kids at home. Being a safe driver is important, please be mindful of words use online. If not, you are no different from the careless driver...please repent before it is too late!!! Life is short, it is important for us to do the right thing, not get things right. I have received multiples ugly words from you guys, no worries, it is not getting me agitated but allow more people to know�that good social etiquette online is significant and we are moving away from it. Please don't regard a child's life to an animal.�He is�human and precious to his family too. Thanks God, he is alive!
U dun even hv gd social online etiquette and u expect ppl to give you tat?! Ur profile pic also give us an impression u r nothing but a dirty o' man! We dun hv many angry drivers on the road but probably self-righteous like u. U seem to enjoy telling ppl alot of "should hv", why dun u tell ur mum what will happen if she "should hv" married someone else but not ur dad? Do note that this is not a personal attack but a reflection of what u r doing to others! We know we cant get u mad but ur post indeed make real righteous ppl mad. We both felt sad for both kid & driver. Driver suay cant avoid & kids should not hv to go thru this experience to learn how to be safe on roads.
I do pity kids being knocked down cos I think it is a hard lesson for them especially when they are still in learning stage. Ptiy the o' folks too, can tell they r hoping they can be faster themselves by their willpower but cant in reality.
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I hv to be honest that I no longer pity full grown well-abled yaya adults who sometimes really deserve to be knocked down to let them wake up when crossing the roads & those reckless motorist as well.
To those harping on the fact that the driver did not step out immediately after the accident, I would applaud your calmness if *touch wood* a similar incident happens to you and you would react like what you said on hindsight.
To those harping on the fact that the driver did not step out immediately after the accident, I would applaud your calmness if *touch wood* a similar incident happens to you and you would react like what you said on hindsight.
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I mentioned before a bike knock me from the back and he fell, my first reaction was get out to see how bad was he although he keep apologising. I didn't even bother with the damage on my car and check his bike as ok and if he need to go hospital.
U dun even hv gd social online etiquette and u expect ppl to give you tat?! Ur profile pic also give us an impression u r nothing but a dirty o' man!�
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OI dun anyhow insult dirty old man hor!!!
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To those harping on the fact that the driver did not step out immediately after the accident, I would applaud your calmness if *touch wood* a similar incident happens to you and you would react like what you said on hindsight.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........................so what do you when you hit someone..........sit there do nothing..............or just drive away???...................and then tell police you got stress management problem..................you cannot keep calm...............you sibei kancheong you hit someone...............you dont know what to do............
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Looks like there are many angry drivers on the road. I believe we have forgotten the basic traffic rules on the road. Though been driving daily on the road. Courtesy and good road sense are still the main core to get home safely to my family. Without harming others, I can sleep better every night and see my kids at home. Being a safe driver is important, please be mindful of words use online. If not, you are no different from the careless driver...please repent before it is too late!!! Life is short, it is important for us to do the right thing, not get things right. I have received multiples ugly words from you guys, no worries, it is not getting me agitated but allow more people to know�that good social etiquette online is significant and we are moving away from it. Please don't regard a child's life to an animal.�He is�human and precious to his family too. Thanks God, he is alive!
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Don't talk cock lah .... are you sure that if you are in the same situation, you can avoid the accident. Accident are accident ... it happens,�
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I think in this case, the speed at which the car is traveling is only factor for how badly the kid will be injured.�
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Lastly, I don't think the car was speeding even the video makes it look like it was. The car was probably in the midst of accelerating. The kid appeared in front of the bus at the 0:02 mark, impact was at 0:03.
It would be reasonable to assume that the driver only noticed the kid half a second later and applied brakes immediately. That's just half a second of reaction time for the driver. Unless the driver is expecting something to appear out of nowhere from the bus, then I certainly, think the driver reacted reasonably well under the circumstances. The powerful braking also probably save the kid's life.
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Let's be reasonable and say that pedestrian has to do their part. The kid is as good as crossing the road blind-folded and leave the consequences to God to decide. And he was lucky. No amount of care by drivers is going to help to avoid such accidents. All road users must do their own part. Don't leave your part to others to take care.�
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That said, I wonder why the driver didn't go up to check on the kid he just ran down. Too shock?
U dun even hv gd social online etiquette and u expect ppl to give you tat?! Ur profile pic also give us an impression u r nothing but a dirty o' man! We dun hv many angry drivers on the road but probably self-righteous like u. U seem to enjoy telling ppl alot of "should hv", why dun u tell ur mum what will happen if she "should hv" married someone else but not ur dad? Do note that this is not a personal attack but a reflection of what u r doing to others! We know we cant get u mad but ur post indeed make real righteous ppl mad. We both felt sad for both kid & driver. Driver suay cant avoid & kids should not hv to go thru this experience to learn how to be safe on roads.
I do pity kids being knocked down cos I think it is a hard lesson for them especially when they are still in learning stage. Ptiy the o' folks too, can tell they r hoping they can be faster themselves by their willpower but cant in reality.
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I hv to be honest that I no longer pity full grown well-abled yaya adults who sometimes really deserve to be knocked down to let them wake up when crossing the roads & those reckless motorist as well.
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what has his avatar got to do with his comments???.............mayb it gave YOU the impression................but seriously I dont agree to the word 'US'.............and WTF do you have to bring parents into the discussion..............and you call this non personal attack?............
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Looks like there are many angry drivers on the road. I believe we have forgotten the basic traffic rules on the road. Though been driving daily on the road. Courtesy and good road sense are still the main core to get home safely to my family. Without harming others, I can sleep better every night and see my kids at home. Being a safe driver is important, please be mindful of words use online. If not, you are no different from the careless driver...please repent before it is too late!!! Life is short, it is important for us to do the right thing, not get things right. I have received multiples ugly words from you guys, no worries, it is not getting me agitated but allow more people to know�that good social etiquette online is significant and we are moving away from it. Please don't regard a child's life to an animal.�He is�human and precious to his family too. Thanks God, he is alive!
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praising yourself and telling everyone that only you are capable of having good road sense and getting home without harming others ...�
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Haha I would react of course, I'm just saying not everyone handle situation the same way.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........................so what do you when you hit someone..........sit there do nothing..............or just drive away???...................and then tell police you got stress management problem..................you cannot keep calm...............you sibei kancheong you hit someone...............you dont know what to do............
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what has his avatar got to do with his comments???.............mayb it gave YOU the impression................but seriously I dont agree to the word 'US'.............and WTF do you have to bring parents into the discussion..............and you call this non personal attack?............
Do pardon me then for using the word "us" as u probably felt it involves u and unintentionally stepped on ur tail. I agree that his avatar has nothing to do with his comments
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Haha I would react of course, I'm just saying not everyone handle situation the same way.
I had a personal experience anyway, a lady drove into me when I was crossing the zebra crossing. I had to pick myself up while she sits there stunned.
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your original comment seem to indicate that most ppl will not be calm enough to react................and that you will be so impress that you will have to clap for them if they manage to react.............NO?
the lao chiao can hao lian.....cum MCF sibei stress.................want haolian also must pretend pretend................if not sure kena left right centre up down...............
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ehhh..if u can understand, it is impression i m talking about. Looks like u choose to absorb whats not. I dun blame u anyway.
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U mean u get anry when ppl ask u generally abt ur loved ones? Ehhh...I think I didnt get ur parents into discussion u must hv read wrongly. Looks like u can get sour over the mere mention of "parents"? Need help to get over that allergy? F...word has a meaning...u didnt use it correctly thou.
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I dont have to tell you if there is any relation anywhere...............or do I???............
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bro.....you have been a member for 10 yrs.....chill. Sometime we get misquoted othertimes people read and their opinion differs from others.....no need to go on and on. Its just a forum....ehhh..if u can understand, it is impression i m talking about. Looks like u choose to absorb whats not. I dun blame u anyway.
The person didnt seem to get so angry but u did instead. Any relation in-between?
U mean u get anry when ppl ask u generally abt ur loved ones? Ehhh...I think I didnt get ur parents into discussion u must hv read wrongly. Looks like u can get sour over the mere mention of "parents"? Need help to get over that allergy? F...word has a meaning...u didnt use it correctly thou.
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Some times we just deserve it...bro.....you have been a member for 10 yrs.....chill. Sometime we get misquoted othertimes people read and their opinion differs from others.....no need to go on and on. Its just a forum....
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This time, maybe grandmother's C- class and grandfather's A4.
http://www.channelne...al/2953536.html
I think I hv answered ur qns within my capacity..again if u understand, I m not asking for an answer fr u if u understand. Thank you for being objective and maybe that qualify to be in haolian thread?
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I don't know WTF is so special about Seletar Link. Used to frequent there for work.
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This time, maybe grandmother's C- class and grandfather's A4.
http://www.channelne...al/2953536.html
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I don't know WTF is so special about Seletar Link. Used to frequent there for work.
Long straight road with no traffic at night perhaps?
Then the stretch beside Tengah is better leh...Long straight road with no traffic at night perhaps?
Another 2 charged for racing at seletar link.
This time, maybe grandmother's C- class and grandfather's A4.
http://www.channelne...al/2953536.html
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Might be confiscated...... confiscated means what? TP can slap on TP logo and use it to patrol the streets huh?
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This time, maybe grandmother's C- class and grandfather's A4.
http://www.channelne...al/2953536.html
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It's long, but not as long as LCK i think?
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Personally I have seen street racers there. But I left them alone since they didn't disturb my humble kimchi car
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lelong lor....Might be confiscated...... confiscated means what? TP can slap on TP logo and use it to patrol the streets huh?
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Welli apt. I thought I was the only one who saw this.
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I read your first sentence...............and jumping with joy..............i want i want to dislike...............but I read the 3rd paragraph...........and tell myself..............KNN if I dislike this............I will have to praise you on the next post.............KNN better save my 10 points for others................
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Finally 65%. Not bad. Betterer than white team in 2011 but worserer than white team in 2015.
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Ur car? What happen? U horn him he not happy?
14 July 2016 - 09:12 PMTianmoChey...
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15 July 2016 - 08:48 AMVratenzayou know why? The TP likes to go for these:
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The TP are diverting resources to catching people at ungodly hours like these in addition to putting people on bridges (and yes, they do this to catch non-racing speeders on empty roads in the wee hours too). Meanwhile, road hazards during rush hour are allowed to continue - dangerously overloaded trucks, weaving and lane-splitting bikes, irresponsible pedestrians, cyclists and e-cyclists. I know it's fallacious to attribute the lack of enforcement of some important things to the enforcement of other things, but it does seem like they're "squeezing the balloon" of limited resources, or maybe even going for the low-hanging fruit. Revenue-generation, example-making, and all that.
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Street racing should remain illegal. But catch the really egregious garang ones like those guys at Orchard Gudang mixing it up with "innocent traffic". Don't gun for these guys who are keeping it to the ulu places late at night and who don't put the innocent at risk. If and when you build a track in Singapore, I'll say you can go all out and catch people, but until then, a little restraint can be shown.
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15 July 2016 - 08:59 AMTurboflat4you know why? The TP likes to go for these:
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15 July 2016 - 09:02 AMVratenzaFever easy to treat..... psychological problems harder to treat... just saying
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15 July 2016 - 09:04 AMRadXWe al know Joseph22 legacyFever easy to treat..... psychological problems harder to treat... just saying
He confuse ppl until they ask to go buangkok hotel
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15 July 2016 - 09:19 AMBluerayLooks like Jurong? Must be all that chemical rain and air.
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15 July 2016 - 09:25 AMMustankwasted! never take parang
drive until like that, must as well box the shit out of each other
15 July 2016 - 09:29 AMVratenzaThere is a chinese saying.... use poison to counteract another poison...
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15 July 2016 - 09:30 AMVratenzaYeah, sibhay anticlimax dio bo?
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15 July 2016 - 09:32 AMQueks 15 July 2016 - 09:32 AMRadX 15 July 2016 - 11:39 AMBluerayYeah ... A lot of drivers ignore the Give Way sign ... Including this VW driver.I think LTA needs to replace Give Way lines with double humps and Stop Line with 5" high hump.
I also kena near IMM area along Boon Lay Way last week, BMW decided to rush out from filter lane even though I was about 5M away from him, true enough, the BMW scraped into my left rear side. His argument was that I should have stopped my car for him to exit and he didn't see any Give Way line.
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15 July 2016 - 11:42 AMAdrianliNo sound in the VCR, but my guess is the taxi must have horn at the VW when the VW filtered out into the main road. The road ahead of the VW �(lane 3) was cleared, why did he jammed his brake twice? I suppose he bay song tio horn, so did it on purpose. Anyway, the taxi waited for the VW to clear so far ahead before moving off, I think that was good enough, he didn't gave chase. But as he filtered right and most likely wanting to turn right into toh guan east road, see what the VW did, he purposely cut ahead dangerously to block the Taxi.
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The taxi never wait lah. Can see that the taxi driver got out from the taxi when the car stopped. Assume to confront the polo but it ran away instead. Noticed the jerk in the recording, its caused by closing of the car door. Those in car cameras using suction cups type of holder will experience such jerking motion more than those that uses double sided tape.
At least the taxi driver never swerve to the other lane like my incident. He braked and stopped in his own lane.
15 July 2016 - 11:44 AMEviilusioncan tell us the insurance outcome or fella prefer private settlement.I think LTA needs to replace Give Way lines with double humps and Stop Line with 5" high hump.
I also kena near IMM area along Boon Lay Way last week, BMW decided to rush out from filter lane even though I was about 5M away from him, true enough, the BMW scraped into my left rear side. His argument was that I should have stopped my car for him to exit and he didn't see any Give Way line.
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15 July 2016 - 11:47 AMNicfooi wish these type of drivers get run over and die
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15 July 2016 - 12:04 PMNicfooThe taxi never wait lah. Can see that the taxi driver got out from the taxi when the car stopped. Assume to confront the polo but it ran away instead. Noticed the jerk in the recording, its caused by closing of the car door. Those in car cameras using suction cups type of holder will experience such jerking motion more than those that uses double sided tape.
At least the taxi driver never swerve to the other lane like my incident. He braked and stopped in his own lane.
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My point is, without the recording, taxi confirm is up lorry. Road condition dry, traffic moderate, traffic light red (i think), VW has come to stop already, and taxi bang direct from behind. But case in point is, there was an intention to cause an accident by the VW driver.
15 July 2016 - 12:05 PMEWanderi think you call him a jerk is being polite already... �
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15 July 2016 - 12:07 PMF355The taxi never wait lah. Can see that the taxi driver got out from the taxi when the car stopped. Assume to confront the polo but it ran away instead. Noticed the jerk in the recording, its caused by closing of the car door.�
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15 July 2016 - 12:08 PMFcw75Just make insurance coverage like in Canada.
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15 July 2016 - 12:19 PMMason016I hope you were driving your elephant!I think LTA needs to replace Give Way lines with double humps and Stop Line with 5" high hump.
I also kena near IMM area along Boon Lay Way last week, BMW decided to rush out from filter lane even though I was about 5M away from him, true enough, the BMW scraped into my left rear side. His argument was that I should have stopped my car for him to exit and he didn't see any Give Way line.
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15 July 2016 - 12:28 PMWeez911For this type of accident, the insurance company for the cab will contest in court for a lower liability. Both lawyers will fight it out. I suspect the liability will be 50/50, reason being the VW has stopped repeatedly in a rash manner with the intention to cause accident. I won't be surprised if VW driver suffers higher liability to be honest if the judge reviews the whole recording.
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15 July 2016 - 12:30 PMRadXFor this type of accident, the insurance company for the cab will contest in court for a lower liability. Both lawyers will fight it out. I suspect the liability will be 50/50, reason being the VW has stopped repeatedly in a rash manner with the intention to cause accident. I won't be surprised if VW driver suffers higher liability to be honest if the judge reviews the whole recording.
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15 July 2016 - 12:33 PMWeez911totally agree! �Bloody VW driver shd be like that ahpui, licence gantong....nb
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15 July 2016 - 12:35 PMCivic6228I think LTA needs to replace Give Way lines with double humps and Stop Line with 5" high hump.
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I was waiting at the slip road along Ulu Pandan Road into Clementi, a tipper truck tried to squeeze through and side wipe my car. I bo tai bo chi kena and insurance said 50/50 as the driver may claim that I cut into his lane and he cannot siam me. WTF.
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15 July 2016 - 12:36 PMRadXI hope the VW driver suffers something else. Oops, I need to go confession tomorrow liao. Your fault lah
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15 July 2016 - 12:51 PMVratenzaThis action also experience more jerking motion than those who do not....
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The taxi never wait lah. Can see that the taxi driver got out from the taxi when the car stopped. Assume to confront the polo but it ran away instead. Noticed the jerk in the recording, its caused by closing of the car door. Those in car cameras using suction cups type of holder will experience such jerking motion more than those that uses double sided tape.
At least the taxi driver never swerve to the other lane like my incident. He braked and stopped in his own lane.
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15 July 2016 - 12:52 PMVratenzai go east coast park lagoon hawker centre buy coconut water from my favourite coconut supplier
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15 July 2016 - 01:09 PMTianmoFever easy to treat..... psychological problems harder to treat... just saying
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15 July 2016 - 01:43 PMStefanKcan tell us the insurance outcome or fella prefer private settlement.
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70+ year old man... refused to exchange particulars and had no intention to give me his contact number and name until I 'strongly encouraged' him to do so. anyway, workshop says $250 for paint work, I decided to let it go since left less than 12 months to this car's life. I reported to my insurance and specifically said no claims unless kena b**tard.
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no lah... the scoob is my B&B.
if elephant most like rim scratched and the BMW will most likely get more than a dented in front bumper.
15 July 2016 - 01:49 PMStefanKGVGT .... I just installed a video cam for my car for obvious reason.
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I was waiting at the slip road along Ulu Pandan Road into Clementi, a tipper truck tried to squeeze through and side wipe my car. I bo tai bo chi kena and insurance said 50/50 as the driver may claim that I cut into his lane and he cannot siam me. WTF.
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damn suay bro... �but if you were waiting your car should be stationary... did you explicitly indicate that in your accident report?
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15 July 2016 - 02:49 PMEviilusionwah....70+ still act garang....what is happening to SG?70+ year old man... refused to exchange particulars and had no intention to give me his contact number and name until I 'strongly encouraged' him to do so. anyway, workshop says $250 for paint work, I decided to let it go since left less than 12 months to this car's life. I reported to my insurance and specifically said no claims unless kena b**tard.
no lah... the scoob is my B&B.
if elephant most like rim scratched and the BMW will most likely get more than a dented in front bumper.
15 July 2016 - 03:51 PMBeehive3783Old farts think they big fark.
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15 July 2016 - 04:38 PMDavidtch70+ year old man... refused to exchange particulars and had no intention to give me his contact number and name until I 'strongly encouraged' him to do so. anyway, workshop says $250 for paint work, I decided to let it go since left less than 12 months to this car's life. I reported to my insurance and specifically said no claims unless kena b**tard.
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15 July 2016 - 04:43 PMJman888he needs to meet a tipper truck and not a taxi.jam brake and jam brake...haiz
polo finally met someone that taught him to realise the outcome of suck needless act.
15 July 2016 - 04:52 PMTurboflat4Yes, VW driver has the textbook definition of kiam pah face and mannerisms. Pity the teksi lau never hantam that b**tard.totally agree! Bloody VW driver shd be like that ahpui, licence gantong....nb
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15 July 2016 - 05:04 PMKennnnyFrom a bystander view and also a driver view.....this small pork Vw polo is a cheebye Kia with a cheebye attitude.. My view only.
15 July 2016 - 05:21 PMTheCivilian7me second you.
15 July 2016 - 05:21 PMAndylkkgI'm likely in the minority on this, and I'm probably gonna get flamed and possibly "disliked" - that's OK - just remember to leave your name and not be an anonymous coward about it, I won't bite back.
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Street racing should remain illegal. But catch the really egregious garang ones like those guys at Orchard Gudang mixing it up with "innocent traffic". Don't gun for these guys who are keeping it to the ulu places late at night and who don't put the innocent at risk. If and when you build a track in Singapore, I'll say you can go all out and catch people, but until then, a little restraint can be shown.
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15 July 2016 - 06:04 PMPSP415Turboflat4, the problem is allowing such illegal racing at quiet, secluded places have the following issues, real, imagined or waiting to happen or still in movie scripts or in movies :
1. Parents of such racers will kpkb why never intervene or conduct checks or prevent blah blah blah.....
2. These racers are likely to bring the fun to the next level... Street racings for more kicks and funner
3. Introduce more opportunities for gang related activities ie gambling and drinking and fights when poor losers are born. Then more trouble with having to look for killer(s) or missing face or limbs.
4. Encourage more illegal mods until Transformers also no chance
The kids of today are pretty useless... Because of useless parents of this generation. They leave the upbringing stuff to maids and everything that can go wrong goes wrong, they blame others and then migrate (thank God). 15 July 2016 - 09:01 PMNzyjam brake and jam brake...haiz�
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15 July 2016 - 09:02 PMTurboflat4No worries bro, I welcome dissenting opinions. I don't think the sort caught for street racing to now are the "no good poor loser" sort, do you? More like the pampered by rich relatives sort. I don't think they're likely to turn bad. Ironically, the prison sentence will probably do far more to affect the trajectory of their lives than a little street racing - a prison record can wreck your whole white collar future in this strait laced judgmental place. So the judgment does more harm than good in my opinion.Turboflat4, the problem is allowing such illegal racing at quiet, secluded places have the following issues, real, imagined or waiting to happen or still in movie scripts or in movies :
1. Parents of such racers will kpkb why never intervene or conduct checks or prevent blah blah blah.....
2. These racers are likely to bring the fun to the next level... Street racings for more kicks and funner
3. Introduce more opportunities for gang related activities ie gambling and drinking and fights when poor losers are born. Then more trouble with having to look for killer(s) or missing face or limbs.
4. Encourage more illegal mods until Transformers also no chance
The kids of today are pretty useless... Because of useless parents of this generation. They leave the upbringing stuff to maids and everything that can go wrong goes wrong, they blame others and then migrate (thank God). �
I take a humorous view and will be a flame b4 you... � the pressure is mine.
Seriously, it is not something I personally am for. If they have more sense and burning desire to race please go to a safer place like racetracks. At the end of the day, why is a simple and easy way to do so not used?
Thanks for sharing your views. It's always refreshing and usually out of the law... I mean the norm type. You lead a fulfilling life... Kudos to that.
Safe ride
Cheers
With regard to racetracks, why do we still not have a single one, not even a dragstrip, but we have too damn many golf courses? I know the old fogeys in white love to waste their lives away on the green, but some of us prefer to waste our lives on the Green Hell. Or at least a local equivalent, watered down as it may be. I think there's definitely demand. As I said, once it's built, there will br absolutely no more excuse for any sort of public street racing or speed trials. There is room, by the way. CEC is frequently used for car events, they can just make it a dedicated setup. And there are even better options in the really ulu places.
(Don't talk about Malaysia, that's another country, we need one *here*).
15 July 2016 - 09:07 PMEviilusionmaybe he thought he hit a tree branch....Driver jin saki, kanna hit big time lao, both still can continue driving like nothing happened. Haha..
16 July 2016 - 08:22 AMCount-BraculaParental Guidance or Pasir Gudang..
16 July 2016 - 10:58 PMJoseph22Why will someone change lane like that???KNS
16 July 2016 - 11:06 PMEighttalesWhy will someone change lane like that???
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16 July 2016 - 11:09 PMJoseph22Very reckless drivingthink he was trying to swerve to the next lane so he could avoid rear-ending the car in front of him.
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16 July 2016 - 11:26 PMTenghockWhy will someone change lane like that???
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Huh .... really can't see the plates clearly. Maybe heat from the tarmac or camera not suitable for such weather. Care to share which camera so that ppl can avoid getting it. LOL, just joking.
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Lol. Just avoid those no brand ones. Mine is a free gift. No brand. Box only write HD car dvr.
17 July 2016 - 07:19 AMKtglfcKNS
Such sudden change! See ghost infront, is it?
Hope the motorcyclist is ok... Got to claim from this driver !
17 July 2016 - 08:23 AMDuckduck
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17 July 2016 - 08:35 AMVratenzaTaxi again..... I really do hope it is because of their significantly higher road presence rather than inherent problem with taxi driver skills and mentality.
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i suspect the heat distort the distance between the lens vs the CCD sensors. Thereby altering the focus point on the CCD causing the phenomenon.
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Huh .... really can't see the plates clearly. Maybe heat from the tarmac or camera not suitable for such weather. Care to share which camera so that ppl can avoid getting it. LOL, just joking.
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17 July 2016 - 08:54 AMRadXLol... Thanks broHope you can help yourself here in MCF....
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18 July 2016 - 04:24 PMDuckduck
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dangerous driving... blood going to wrong head cannot think properly
18 July 2016 - 05:19 PMGreatodinEither passenger is dehydrated or she needs nourishment badly...
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18 July 2016 - 08:09 PMlausai88chiong some more lah�
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18 July 2016 - 08:13 PMDigthis1Civic ESI - V TEC dam powerful
18 July 2016 - 08:14 PMJoseph22Why u all so dirty minded one... Cannot be she is just sleeping on his lap meh??Either passenger is dehydrated or she needs nourishment badly...
18 July 2016 - 11:09 PMPocyMaybe Radx can advise .... interesting to know the record figure. Haha .....Amazing... Is he the record holder to have receive 85 dislike points in one post?.. �
Screenshot_20160718-225653.png 19 July 2016 - 09:31 AMFireball0088
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If this is in Singapore, then we now know why there are hoggers on Lane 1 and why Lane 2 are always filled with trucks and other big vehicles!�
19 July 2016 - 09:34 AMJoseph22Sometime drive Too Long on the road will be a bit numb and body take over... Think this is what happen...In that split second, he had to decide to move left or right. I guess he was hoping that the taxi driver stopped his car then the civic will zoomed past on the left.
The taxi should not just chiong out followed the car in front of him. He never checked properly before turning...
Actually I do feel taxi at fault.
19 July 2016 - 09:36 AMVratenzaDon't think he hogging lah, that stretch is the part where traffic from Telok Blangah Road all try to join the upramp to Keppel Viaduct from the extreme left of the 4 lane section. As the section is relatively short, a lot of them takes on more risky lane filtering manoeuvre �in order to make it to the right most lane in time.
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19 July 2016 - 09:50 AMFireball0088Actually, if the civic just keep to his lane instead of swerving left, he would have made it even at that high speed also. I guess he panicked and didn't know what to do. Swerve left already then realise cannot make it so jam brake but the wheels locked up and couldn't swerve back to the right lane.
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My guess (guess only hor) is the Civic was traveling at high speed on the right lane. Then the Estima was cruising at 55km/h also on the right lane which made the Civic filtered from the right to left. The Civic wanted to move back to the right lane but the Taxi came out. So at that point, he decided to move back to the left hoping that the Taxi would stopped. Guess that was why the Civic didnt brake until it was too late.�
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As for the taxi, based on assumption again, he didnt really see the Civic because it could have been blocked by the Estima and until it was too late. Based on the two car cam video, it sure looked like a gloomy day. So gloomy day, f&f black colored car, the taxi turning busy looking out for the car turning in front of him and wanting to rush across.... accident
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Another thing I noticed was the second cam car. It was moving off from the bus bay and made the Civic moved to the right lane to avoid it just in case it came out the bay without checking.
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(p.s. There was a mandatory give way to bus exiting from the bay - probably that was also one of the reason he was drifting from left to right)
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Not sure. For me, I will give 50/50 or most blame to the Taxi for failure to look out for cars. But I will fine the Civic jialat jialat for excessive speed...
19 July 2016 - 09:50 AMVratenzaMod engine.. mod suspension...mod exhaust....... end up did not mod the brakes and most importantly forgot to mod his driving skills.
chiong some more lah�
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19 July 2016 - 09:52 AMFireball0088Sometime drive Too Long on the road will be a bit numb and body take over... Think this is what happen...
Actually I do feel taxi at fault.�
Of course, on hindsight, we can say anything. At the point in time, I probably will also try to accelerate when i see a car coming straight at me.�
19 July 2016 - 10:06 AMBeehive3783 19 July 2016 - 10:10 AMJman888Road hog spotted.
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not road hog lah, there is only one lane going up the keppel�viaduct, all vehicle have to start filter in early cos you never know how soon the jam going to start queuing up.
19 July 2016 - 10:12 AMBeehive3783There are 2 lanes to access Keppel up-ramp from day 1 leh.
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Don't think he hogging lah, that stretch is the part where traffic from Telok Blangah Road all try to join the upramp to Keppel Viaduct from the extreme left of the 4 lane section. As the section is relatively short, a lot of them takes on more risky lane filtering manoeuvre �in order to make it to the right most lane in time.
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not road hog lah, there is only one lane going up the keppel�viaduct, all vehicle have to start filter in early cos you never know how soon the jam going to start queuing up.
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19 July 2016 - 10:16 AMJman888There are 2 lanes to access Keppel up-ramp from day 1 leh.
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i see now, but i remember it used to be one lane long ago, i hardly use this road but i know the jam can start even before it come down from the viaduct above harbourfront.
19 July 2016 - 10:23 AMSp4wni see now, but i remember it used to be one lane long ago, i hardly use this road but i know the jam can start even before it come down from the viaduct above harbourfront.
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19 July 2016 - 10:32 AMBluerayIts not VW polo lah, is golf.
Today Straits Times also report as Polo.
Cut and paste journalism. Haha ...
19 July 2016 - 10:34 AMStefanKRoad hog spotted.
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I wouldn't call it roadhog lah bro... I'd say very cautious driver and judging by the way the cars filtering right are macam in a rush, there's cause to behave this way. But if all traffic going straight (e.g. expressway) then maybe slight hog. Piglet maybe.
19 July 2016 - 10:34 AMCount-BraculaWhy will someone change lane like that???
Change lane like trying to take out the motorcyclist. Kokanathan!
19 July 2016 - 10:35 AMVidToday Straits Times also report as Polo.
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19 July 2016 - 10:36 AMKtglfc
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19 July 2016 - 10:42 AMWeez911�dangerous driving... blood going to wrong head cannot think properly
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Duckduck, I think it is not what it seems to be.
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Because the guy did not place�1 hand on the girl's head or tidying her hair. Natural reaction no?
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19 July 2016 - 10:45 AMCount-Braculaliterally................"shear driving pleasure"
He better not jam brake.
19 July 2016 - 10:47 AMBluerayDuckduck, I think it is not what it seems to be.
Because the guy did not place 1 hand on the girl's head or tidying her hair. Natural reaction no?![]()
In the first place ... Confirm its girl meh ? 19 July 2016 - 10:52 AMTianmoi see now, but i remember it used to be one lane long ago, i hardly use this road but i know the jam can start even before it come down from the viaduct above harbourfront.
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19 July 2016 - 10:57 AMVratenzaTP must award the front passenger for still using her seat belt while cumming under strenuous circumstances.....
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19 July 2016 - 11:01 AMJman888It was 1 lane all the while...............only until as recent as last year I think...........then it was wider to 2 lane...............after they added an extra lane to the road............
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19 July 2016 - 11:05 AMTianmothat explain why everyone rushing to filter into lane 1, cos all still thinking only 1 lane only �
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19 July 2016 - 11:13 AMJoseph22Maybe car no power.. Want to accelerate also cannot?I wouldn't call it roadhog lah bro... I'd say very cautious driver and judging by the way the cars filtering right are macam in a rush, there's cause to behave this way. But if all traffic going straight (e.g. expressway) then maybe slight hog. Piglet maybe.
19 July 2016 - 11:15 AMTurboflat4Actually, if he stay in the right lane, he wouldn't have hit the taxi even if he never slow down. Can taxi driver argue the driver purposely aim his taxi? Lol.
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19 July 2016 - 11:18 AMHamburgerfailing to keep up with traffic flow = road hog in a way.
19 July 2016 - 11:24 AMMockngbrdSong song gao Jurong
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19 July 2016 - 11:26 AMKarlzeissBro Karlzeiss should consider the second lane because many cars will try to go straight to the first lane.
Bro thanks for the feedback.
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With hindsight I should have stick to lane 2 since I was trying to be very caution during rush hour on this stretch of road. That is also the reason I shared this video hoping to create some awareness on the road condition in this area -especially this is not the first time i encountered such situation on this road except that this was the closest to being an accident.
19 July 2016 - 11:26 AMVratenzaMaybe this one......
SpoilerI thought I see bra lines leh.. anyway could still be a trans or guy
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Actually, if he stay in the right lane, he wouldn't have hit the taxi even if he never slow down. Can taxi driver argue the driver purposely aim his taxi? Lol.
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19 July 2016 - 11:34 AMApple-TreeEr ........ more like honda man 100% leh ........
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The impact is so great, the taxi turn 180 degree lor ...... - ALL wheel alignment finished.
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19 July 2016 - 11:36 AMStefanKMaybe car no power.. Want to accelerate also cannot?
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The impact is so great, the taxi turn 180 degree lor ...... - ALL wheel alignment finished.
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I don't think that constitutes as a junction, though civic could face reckless driving charge.
19 July 2016 - 11:43 AMMockngbrdNope, Taxi will take majority of the blame. Civic's speed cannot be 100% determined, even with video.
Video does not show any recklessness on Civic's part. No weaving in/out, no dangerous lane cutting, just maybe going quicker than normal. But again, the speed cannot be 100% determined.
Even if the Civic was going fast, the fast driving did NOT cause the accident, it might have contributed as a factor, but the accident was entirely caused by Taxi driver's misjudgement and turning without checking for traffic.
Also, Taxi is turning while Civic going straight, it is also not a traffic junction, onus is on the taxi driver to check clear,�Taxi driver will take majority of fault. $10 bet.�
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19 July 2016 - 11:45 AMJman888Also, Taxi is turning while Civic going straight, it is also not a traffic junction, onus is on the taxi driver to check clear,�Taxi driver will take majority of fault. $10 bet.�
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19 July 2016 - 11:46 AMMockngbrdmajority mean above 50%?
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19 July 2016 - 11:48 AMStefanKNope, Taxi will take majority of the blame. Civic's speed cannot be 100% determined, even with video.
Video does not show any recklessness on Civic's part. No weaving in/out, no dangerous lane cutting, just maybe going quicker than normal. But again, the speed cannot be 100% determined.
Even if the Civic was going fast, the fast driving did NOT cause the accident, it might have contributed as a factor, but the accident was entirely caused by Taxi driver's misjudgement and turning without checking for traffic.
Also, Taxi is turning while Civic going straight, it is also not a traffic junction, onus is on the taxi driver to check clear,�Taxi driver will take majority of fault. $10 bet.��
Taxi so suay ah? but based on video, cannot determine that civic is speeding? and on two lane road, that speed can be considered reckless?
19 July 2016 - 11:50 AMMockngbrdTaxi so suay ah? but based on video, cannot determine that civic is speeding? and on two lane road, that speed can be considered reckless?
Yes civic can be shown as speeding, but actual speed cannot be 100% determined, unless you think mata/insuran going to wanna spend $$$$$$$ csi the video, in most likelihood, they'll just make the taxi driver jiak the liability unless taxi driver got $$$ to fight.
Taxi turning without checking is clear cut in the video, speed of the Civic is not.�
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19 July 2016 - 11:53 AMHamburgertaxi lao made a bad call. Haiz....
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19 July 2016 - 11:56 AMApple-TreeLet see if honda airbag triggered lor,� if working,� airbag is armed after 45km/h.
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The video cam car also at speed limit laaaa....... or faster ..... heee ...... Let also measure street lamp spacing ah .....
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Yes civic can be shown as speeding, but actual speed cannot be 100% determined, unless you think mata/insuran going to wanna spend $$$$$$$ csi the video, in most likelihood, they'll just make the taxi driver jiak the liability unless taxi driver got $$$ to fight.
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19 July 2016 - 11:57 AMJoseph22Down slop?? Then Pardon him lah. Not everyone dare to take roller coaster u know.Mazda 3 leh... where got no power?
somemore on down slope....
I don't think that constitutes as a junction, though civic could face reckless driving charge.
19 July 2016 - 12:02 PMStefanKYes civic can be shown as speeding, but actual speed cannot be 100% determined, and speeding action did not cause the accident. Taxi turning without checking caused it.�
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I agree with your last statement as I am always guilty of both, thus my own personal interest.
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The authorities will judge according to the cause and effect of this case, which the cause is Civic speeding and Taxi turning without due consideration, effect of course is the accident.
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So they will look at why the Civic is driving faster than the video speed of 53km/h(+/-), on a 2 lane road, speed limit probably 50-60km/h.
The higher the speed difference, the higher the responsibility of the Civic, that's what I assume.
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I do not foresee the taxi taking larger share of the blame, regardless, because no.1 it is obvious Civic is speeding, no.2 Civic changed lane without signalling and no.3 if the authorities decides that if a person was jaywalking instead of a taxi turning, what would have been the consequences? I doubt Civic would be let off easy.
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19 July 2016 - 12:02 PMVratenzaWhere got airbag? After-market light weight momo steering wheel on airbag one....
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19 July 2016 - 12:22 PMDavidtchThat Honda driver is a nut case for driving at that speed along that stretch of road.� I always use that road whenever i visit my in-laws.� I would always drive cautiously at no more than 50km/h
19 July 2016 - 12:38 PMNzyNope, Taxi will take majority of the blame. Civic's speed cannot be 100% determined, even with video.
Video does not show any recklessness on Civic's part. No weaving in/out, no dangerous lane cutting, just maybe going quicker than normal. But again, the speed cannot be 100% determined.
Even if the Civic was going fast, the fast driving did NOT cause the accident, it might have contributed as a factor, but the accident was entirely caused by Taxi driver's misjudgement and turning without checking for traffic.
Also, Taxi is turning while Civic going straight, it is also not a traffic junction, onus is on the taxi driver to check clear,�Taxi driver will take majority of fault. $10 bet.��
I still think taxi can push around 70% blame to the civic la. Their lawyer very good one. Seen taxi get out of getting 100% blame from rear end accident before also. If only got the first video from the car in the bus bay, hard for taxi driver to argue. But now with the new video from the car being overtaken by the civic, taxi can argue it was clear and he know can clear cuz civic was going to right lane but how he know the civic decided to change his path and aim for his taxi after he took the turn. The video does show clearly that if the civic did not change lanes so suddenly without signalling, he wouldn't have hit the taxi.
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My guess (guess only hor) is the Civic was traveling at high speed on the right lane. Then the Estima was cruising at 55km/h also on the right lane which made the Civic filtered from the right to left. The Civic wanted to move back to the right lane but the Taxi came out. So at that point, he decided to move back to the left hoping that the Taxi would stopped. Guess that was why the Civic didnt brake until it was too late.�
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19 July 2016 - 12:48 PMKtglfcLuckily no major injuries on this kind of bang ...
imo, both are losers ... cannot use cars and gonna have high premiums liao ..
19 July 2016 - 01:02 PMBismarckNope, Taxi will take majority of the blame. Civic's speed cannot be 100% determined, even with video.
Video does not show any recklessness on Civic's part. No weaving in/out, no dangerous lane cutting, just maybe going quicker than normal. But again, the speed cannot be 100% determined.
Even if the Civic was going fast, the fast driving did NOT cause the accident, it might have contributed as a factor, but the accident was entirely caused by Taxi driver's misjudgement and turning without checking for traffic.
Also, Taxi is turning while Civic going straight, it is also not a traffic junction, onus is on the taxi driver to check clear,�Taxi driver will take majority of fault. $10 bet.��
1. Based on the clip, I would say Civic's speed is about 10 to 15 km/h faster than the cam car. So if cam car is driving at 50, then civic maybe around 65.�
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19 July 2016 - 01:15 PMJoseph22Point 2- taxi drive likely didn't check. When he turn the civic is only 5 to 6 car space away??1. Based on the clip, I would say Civic's speed is about 10 to 15 km/h faster than the cam car. So if cam car is driving at 50, then civic maybe around 65.
2. The taxi driver made a bad call. He took for granted there will be no car speeding that fast and assume cars going straight will slow down a bit when he is turning.
3. Civic's driving skill not as good as it should be.
I won't turn with such little allowance.
19 July 2016 - 01:16 PMJq1988Wa bro, your malayu power sia. I only know jika anda... something something.. sembilan sembilan sembilan
19 July 2016 - 02:12 PMSp4wnThe lawyer for the Civic can also argue that his client had to change lane in the last second to avoid the Taxi and that the Taxi shouldnt have make the turn. Upon seeing a (fast) car approaching should just stop
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19 July 2016 - 02:14 PMBavarianI am with Mockngbrd Spawn and Fireball0088 on this. The primary cause of the accident was the taxi crossing the path of the Civic. The taxi should have yielded. We learn when turning right across traffic, give way to on coming vehicles. It does not have any other clauses such as unless it is speeding, or a modded civic or driven by an a**hole. You just give way.i'm actually with Mockngbrd on this...
even IF the civic is speeding
even IF the civic is heavily modified
even IF the civic undertake the car cam
the onus is on the taxi driver to be ALERT, drive defensively. if you see a speeding car, or you know your lau pok chia cannot make it, why you still wanna attempt? the taxi driver failed to practise defensive driving ... when in doubt, DONT MOVE. wait for traffic to be clear if no confidence. he is turning from a minor to major, he has to give way regardless ... even driving instruction will say, "turn when it is SAFE to do so"... when you see a "speeding" car ... why risk it to save a few seconds.
The question here is: Did the taxi driver see he oncoming civic? If he did, why did he move? If he did not, why did he move?
19 July 2016 - 02:28 PMJman888On another note, did the taxi driver see he oncoming civic? If he did, why did he move? If he did not, why did he move?
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19 July 2016 - 02:28 PMMyxilplixI throw my 20 cent coin into the taxi at fault pool. Failing to give way etc etc
19 July 2016 - 02:34 PMFireball0088most probably he only looked once when the car in front took the turn, that was when the civic was still further from the bus stop. By the time for him to make a turn, he probably assume the civic is not speeding or intend to slow down where the cam car was only at the bus stop.
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19 July 2016 - 02:36 PMFireball0088I throw my 20 cent coin into the taxi at fault pool. Failing to give way etc etc
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19 July 2016 - 02:37 PMPiyopicoTaxi definitely takes the bulk of the blame.
If you cannot filter out safely it means you did not take into consideration the conditions of the vehicles on the main road notwithstanding the civic was most definitely speeding.
70/30 if I can apportion.
19 July 2016 - 02:42 PMVratenzaOne thing is the type of "gar gar chut" taxi drivers....alot of them.
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I am with Mockngbrd Spawn and Fireball0088 on this. The primary cause of the accident was the taxi crossing the path of the Civic. The taxi should have yielded. We learn when turning right across traffic, give way to on coming vehicles. It does not have any other clauses such as unless it is speeding, or a modded civic or driven by an a**hole. You just give way.
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19 July 2016 - 02:47 PMWeez911This accident would not have happened if (1) taxi had not turned so late, and/or (2) the civic�had not sped so fast on the 2nd lane (sometimes people wrongly assume left laners are slow coach).�
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19 July 2016 - 02:50 PMBavarianThis accident would not have happened if (1) taxi had not turned so late, and/or (2) the civic had not sped so fast on the 2nd lane (sometimes people wrongly assume left laners are slow coach).
I say both are liable for damages. Maybe more to the taxi, but I'm not the judge and never intended to become one.
Yes but this accident would also have happened if (2a) the civic was travelling within speed limit. Imagine yourself as the civic driver driving safely, defensively and the MCF way when the taxi decided to cross your path last minute. Still bang.
Perhaps the severity of damage might not be as bad but that is another matter for the judge to think about. Which is not you. 19 July 2016 - 03:20 PMJellandrossthat is assuming Vehicle Y is driving sanely and responsibly right?
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That's when the lawyers from both insurers come in to cho gang to justify their cases liao.
19 July 2016 - 03:22 PMSp4wnthat is assuming Vehicle Y is driving sanely and responsibly right?
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19 July 2016 - 03:22 PMWeez911BOLA chart scenario 2. Even if honda was deemed to be speeding, taxi still takes majority of the blame.
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19 July 2016 - 03:23 PMJellandross
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19 July 2016 - 03:27 PMVratenzayeah lah... what I am saying is that that is the basis we start from.... that is 100% fault from the taxi and the percentages will be reduced from there based on other circumstances of the case
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bro it says the turning car should exercise greater care in turning ... gotta use common sense.
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19 July 2016 - 03:31 PMSp4wnBro, these days seldom got 100/0% apportionment, unless 1 vehicle is going against the flow of traffic..
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got other scenario lah.
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19 July 2016 - 03:31 PMApple-TreeU Turn ah ?
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19 July 2016 - 03:34 PMins1diousyeah lah... what I am saying is that that is the basis we start from.... that is 100% fault from the taxi and the percentages will be reduced from there based on other circumstances of the case
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Makes sense... so in this case, start at 100% for taxi and reduce to account for the Honda's crazy speed... but won't reduce culpability that much I think.
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I think pity that when they apportion the percentage... the taxi will end up taking most of the blame. But that's the law I guess.
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19 July 2016 - 03:41 PMVratenzaI just remembered another case... the Si Gi Nah without license drove car, made a similar turn and whack into a motorcycle and subsequently a taxi that was going straight. The pillion, single mother of 2 died on the spot.
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19 July 2016 - 03:45 PMBismarckMakes sense... so in this case, start at 100% for taxi and reduce to account for the Honda's crazy speed... but won't reduce culpability that much I think.
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I think pity that when they apportion the percentage... the taxi will end up taking most of the blame. But that's the law I guess.
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19 July 2016 - 04:05 PMins1diousTo answer my own question...
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Notice Paper No.�76 of 2015 Question No. 214 For Written Answer For Parliament Sitting On Or After�5�March 2015�
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To ask the Minister for Manpower (a) how many taxi drivers, including relief taxi drivers, are there currently; (b) of these, how many are active taxi drivers on the roads; � what is their (i) average annual salary; (ii) average educational qualification; (iii) age profile; and (d) how many have been formerly working in PMET jobs and switched to driving taxis.
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- As at December 2014, about 98,000 Singaporeans held a Taxi Driver�s Vocational Licence. About 56,000 of them were registered with taxi companies. The average net monthly earnings (less expenses) of taxi drivers in 2014 was $3,173 for a single-shift operation, and $5,933 for a two-shift operation.
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Looks like this is an old man's profession... guess I have to be more patient with them around.
19 July 2016 - 06:18 PMJoseph22He is smart.. He want the taxi driver to bang his side...It could have been avoided if the Civic braked instead of gunning for the gap in front of the Taxi.
19 July 2016 - 08:45 PMEviilusionhopefully he/she is ok. The momentum must be great to make that car roll a few time!the roof on driver side dented quite badly, likely driver kena head injuries
19 July 2016 - 09:10 PMflashbang�
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Wah so jialat... how come the traffic light breakdown after the accident? Did it detect accident and auto shut off?
19 July 2016 - 09:14 PMHamburgerThis is where you start realising how seat belts matter...
19 July 2016 - 10:45 PMKeiraToday Straits Times also report as Polo.
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19 July 2016 - 11:33 PMEndert �hope the people in this car are OK
Is this something new with our traffic light. Got accident and immediately become hazard light for warning.. �Quite high tech stuff.
20 July 2016 - 12:02 AMalphard96Wah so jialat... how come the traffic light breakdown after the accident? Did it detect accident and auto shut off?
You are sharp, did not notice it first time!
Persistent blinking lights means malfunction traffic lights? Possibly one of the traffic lights or the "control box" was hit by the vehicle during the accident, causing the "circuit" to malfunction.
Yes, in rollover seat belts minimise injuries.
Hope occupants ok.
20 July 2016 - 12:07 AMKingkongIs this something new with our traffic light. Got accident and immediately become hazard light for warning.. �Quite high tech stuff.
If that's true, I'm impressed too!
But my guess is the control box kena smashed by the car liao...???
20 July 2016 - 12:08 AMRaubernIs this something new with our traffic light. Got accident and immediately become hazard light for warning.. �Quite high tech stuff.
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Saw what happened. The Evo knocked down a traffic light at the centre divider causing the traffic lights to malfunction
20 July 2016 - 12:26 AMLotrSaw what happened. The Evo knocked down a traffic light at the centre divider causing the traffic lights to malfunction
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20 July 2016 - 07:08 AMCharVery high tech traffic light as can sense got happen accident .
20 July 2016 - 07:44 AMflashbangLol saw the car on the far right quickly take advantage of the malfunction traffic lights and zoom off....
20 July 2016 - 08:01 AMmersayleeJust got back from my "school bus" ferry service in heavy downpour and witnessed this.
At a cross junction, green light in my direction of travel. A taxi bohue or bochap the red turn right arrow and happily made the turn and a white sedan happily followed suit.
Are we turning into a cowboy town with anything goes?
20 July 2016 - 08:02 AMF355You can hear the impact and see the lights malfunction a split second before you see the car flipping over.
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20 July 2016 - 08:18 AMKtglfcJust got back from my "school bus" ferry service in heavy downpour and witnessed this.
At a cross junction, green light in my direction of travel. A taxi bohue or bochap the red turn right arrow and happily made the turn and a white sedan happily followed suit.
Are we turning into a cowboy town with anything goes?
There are more and more of these drivers... Just be careful and drive safely ourselves ...
20 July 2016 - 08:43 AMSabretanWhich is why our part, esp drivers w car cam, to submit such violation to the tp instead of just posting on websites.H owever, the prblm is the tp will do their own investigation based on our video evidence n decide on their course of action without updating us on the outcome, well at least we did our part.Just got back from my "school bus" ferry service in heavy downpour and witnessed this.
At a cross junction, green light in my direction of travel. A taxi bohue or bochap the red turn right arrow and happily made the turn and a white sedan happily followed suit.
Are we turning into a cowboy town with anything goes?
20 July 2016 - 08:57 AMPolkadotsGot this same mz2 for my wife. �Driven it a few times and noticed it has very bad blind spots. �Not very well designed mirrors, pillars and passenger seat. �Glad you reacted well.
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20 July 2016 - 09:35 AMFireball0088Got this same mz2 for my wife. �Driven it a few times and noticed it has very bad blind spots. �Not very well designed mirrors, pillars and passenger seat. �Glad you reacted well.
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20 July 2016 - 09:38 AMFireball0088U used google translate?
Can you sort out your thoughts before typing them?�
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20 July 2016 - 09:45 AMBluerayYes. Looks like ownself crash ownself.You can hear the impact and see the lights malfunction a split second before you see the car flipping over.
Most likely the car lost control and hit the lights on its side causing it to ownself flip ownself .
20 July 2016 - 09:53 AMPolkadotsThat goes without saying. �The pillars and seat are ill-designed too so less experienced drivers may not have checked their blind spot enough. � �
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20 July 2016 - 10:19 AMMockngbrdI was expecting godzilla to emerge right after the car finished rolling..
20 July 2016 - 09:38 PMPocyLL driver at Pasir Ris MSCP. Should have added some shit to it.![]()
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20 July 2016 - 09:43 PMVidLL driver at Pasir Ris MSCP. Should have added some shit to it.
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Putting a rubbish bin cover on the roof and the bin in front of the car is hardly a punishment.
20 July 2016 - 09:51 PMPocyWhat I see is parking over motor bike lots.
20 July 2016 - 10:44 PMNzyYet another 'open door and whack motorcyclist' incident. Hope the bike uncle is OK. Wasted his tar-pau kopi-O. First thing car driver did was continue wiping his door panel�
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20 July 2016 - 11:00 PMDarryn 20 July 2016 - 11:36 PMAngkaThat Honda driver is a nut case for driving at that speed along that stretch of road.� I always use that road whenever i visit my in-laws.� I would always drive cautiously at no more than 50km/h
Please keep to lane 2 for maximum 50km/hour
21 July 2016 - 08:58 AMMacrosszeroLL driver at Pasir Ris MSCP. Should have added some shit to it.
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21 July 2016 - 09:36 AMWoeiSongKeh�
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21 July 2016 - 09:46 AMMason016What did this LL driver do?
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21 July 2016 - 10:09 AMMockngbrdWhat to do?� Complain to HDB, people say you can be more understanding or why you so f*. kpo?� �Smash car, you get charged for taking matters into your own hands because we are a civil society�and cannot condone hooliganism.
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So the obnoxious person wins liao lor.� Game theory also say better be obnoxious or else you will lose.
nex time pcc on his door handle
21 July 2016 - 11:01 AMWoeiSongKehnex time pcc on his door handle
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21 July 2016 - 11:09 AMKtglfcLL driver at Pasir Ris MSCP. Should have added some shit to it.
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Luckily, never ganna wheel�clamp ....
21 July 2016 - 11:20 AMDeckbuild30%/70%, civic take most of the blame?
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21 July 2016 - 11:36 AMMustank 21 July 2016 - 11:52 AMMustank 21 July 2016 - 12:24 PMCount-Braculaeh..bro...how come 1st sentence you say you are not anybody's child....thus wan i confuse!Isis
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21 July 2016 - 12:39 PMEviilusionwah...u still remember har?ish lyrics of a song?
I'm nobody's child
I'm nobody's child
Nobody wants me
I'm nobody's child
21 July 2016 - 12:54 PMECONOMICSorry no video. But car in front stopped suddenly on a clear road (presumably to look at which way to go), and forced me to jam brake. I am inches away from hitting. Then Whamp! And Whamp! Chain collision. My car was pushed forward to dent the bumper of the front car, twice. Total 5 cars involved. I heard from workshop that it is ALWAYS the back car fault. So the one in front who stopped suddenly on a clear road will claim my insurance.
I stopped in time, but still got pushed to hit the front car. How is it that it is always the front car claim the back car?
Will see how the insurance claiming goes.
21 July 2016 - 12:58 PMMason016Omg this got to be the most ultimate !!!�
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21 July 2016 - 01:14 PMEykeSo the obnoxious person wins liao lor.� Game theory also say better be obnoxious or else you will lose.
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21 July 2016 - 01:22 PMMason016who dares, wins
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21 July 2016 - 01:31 PMEpr0mlse 21 July 2016 - 02:03 PMflashbangDrove past this morning, not sure how it happened..
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21 July 2016 - 02:14 PMNoob79nex time pcc on his door handle
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21 July 2016 - 02:18 PMMustankBus SpeedingDrove past this morning, not sure how it happened..
21 July 2016 - 02:24 PMSi4drSorry no video. But car in front stopped suddenly on a clear road (presumably to look at which way to go), and forced me to jam brake. I am inches away from hitting. Then Whamp! And Whamp! Chain collision. My car was pushed forward to dent the bumper of the front car, twice. Total 5 cars involved. I heard from workshop that it is ALWAYS the back car fault. So the one in front who stopped suddenly on a clear road will claim my insurance.
I stopped in time, but still got pushed to hit the front car. How is it that it is always the front car claim the back car?
Will see how the insurance claiming goes.�
No video then cannot prove what you said is true.....
21 July 2016 - 02:37 PMApple-TreeIn chain collision, as long as you are not the last car.� You are OK.
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Sorry no video. But car in front stopped suddenly on a clear road (presumably to look at which way to go), and forced me to jam brake. I am inches away from hitting. Then Whamp! And Whamp! Chain collision. My car was pushed forward to dent the bumper of the front car, twice. Total 5 cars involved. I heard from workshop that it is ALWAYS the back car fault. So the one in front who stopped suddenly on a clear road will claim my insurance.
I stopped in time, but still got pushed to hit the front car. How is it that it is always the front car claim the back car?
Will see how the insurance claiming goes.�
21 July 2016 - 02:39 PMDavidtchSorry no video. But car in front stopped suddenly on a clear road (presumably to look at which way to go), and forced me to jam brake. I am inches away from hitting. Then Whamp! And Whamp! Chain collision. My car was pushed forward to dent the bumper of the front car, twice. Total 5 cars involved. I heard from workshop that it is ALWAYS the back car fault. So the one in front who stopped suddenly on a clear road will claim my insurance.
I stopped in time, but still got pushed to hit the front car. How is it that it is always the front car claim the back car?
Will see how the insurance claiming goes.�
That's why must learn to multitask.
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21 July 2016 - 02:55 PMHamburgerSorry no video. But car in front stopped suddenly on a clear road (presumably to look at which way to go), and forced me to jam brake. I am inches away from hitting. Then Whamp! And Whamp! Chain collision. My car was pushed forward to dent the bumper of the front car, twice. Total 5 cars involved. I heard from workshop that it is ALWAYS the back car fault. So the one in front who stopped suddenly on a clear road will claim my insurance.
I stopped in time, but still got pushed to hit the front car. How is it that it is always the front car claim the back car?
Will see how the insurance claiming goes.�
if can prove no car �in front and jammed brake for no reason, scam is the word.
21 July 2016 - 03:47 PMDeckbuild 21 July 2016 - 04:24 PMEWanderSorry no video. But car in front stopped suddenly on a clear road (presumably to look at which way to go), and forced me to jam brake. I am inches away from hitting. Then Whamp! And Whamp! Chain collision. My car was pushed forward to dent the bumper of the front car, twice. Total 5 cars involved. I heard from workshop that it is ALWAYS the back car fault. So the one in front who stopped suddenly on a clear road will claim my insurance.
I stopped in time, but still got pushed to hit the front car. How is it that it is always the front car claim the back car?
Will see how the insurance claiming goes.Our insurance ruling is such ....last car insurance pay for everyone
21 July 2016 - 04:42 PMJman888Our insurance ruling is such ....last car insurance pay for everyone
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21 July 2016 - 07:24 PMJellandrossAccording to chain collision scenario in BOLA. Back car only claim immediate front car and so forth. No more last car bao ga liao. Even if all got car videos to show it's solely last car's fault, not sure if the insurers will deviate from guideline and all claim last car.
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21 July 2016 - 07:47 PMCarbon82This was already posted in another thread earlier. The scary part is that all 5 cars involved have "5" in their model.this happened on 17/7/2016 in South Korea.
three cars totally smashed, four people were killed.
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1st car: Kia K5
2nd car: Audi Q5
3Rd car: Hyundai Sonata i45
4th car: Samsung SM5
5th car: BMW 5GT
From the other video of the accident, all car's, except for the 5GT, are total lost case. The impact is huge!OH.MY.GOD
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The first car on impact was squashed
21 July 2016 - 08:33 PMER-3682sure or not? last car pay for all the cars in front?
Who pay for damages not important,Cars are very cheap in Korea,the worst part of this chain collision is lost of 4 persons
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22 July 2016 - 11:24 AMECONOMICAgree with you. All cars should have camera. GO get it guys!No video then cannot prove what you said is true.....
22 July 2016 - 11:36 AMECONOMICThe 'very standard' and 'always front car claim back car' are what the A-WS told me too.In chain collision, as long as you are not the last car. You are OK.
The claim procedure is "very standard". You are better off to go A-WS for repair lor. As you will be assign a portion of the total liability.
Last car ownself claim ownself lor.
For your case, just claim the car behind lor. And you don't have to pay excess.
I also kenna before. But Income released me of all liability lor. ????
Also agree on better to go A-WS. On this, let me share for awareness. ... the workshop touts arrived swiftly to accident scene and make me very pissed off. Have to spend half my energy to ask them to **** off, while handling the situation (raining, 4 cars owners to exchange details, huge traffic jam). They are VERY persistant. I can understand, because I heard that they will receive 3k commission immediately by bringing victims to their friend's workshop. The touts got about 3 of the victims. If I have followed the tout and not gone to my insurance assigned premium workshop, I may not have gotten the right deals, including a replacement car.
Bro Appletree, did your NCD get affected? If so, how much? I wonder how u managed to be released of all liability. Thx
22 July 2016 - 11:56 AMECONOMICWas told that that's the previous old rule. New one is as per what one bro described above.Our insurance ruling is such ....last car insurance pay for everyone
Just to add... something is not morally and technically sound regarding the front car claim back car rule in chain collision. It will not discourage illicit touts from workshop and bad driving habits (stop suddenly to change direction, view road signs or taxi pick up passenger). They all can do so with zero insurance and legal cost. DISAGREE!
If can prove front most car is at fault, all cars behind should claim that one car in front.
All get camera please.
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22 July 2016 - 12:12 PMSGCMmaomaoi wonder why the Altis driver wanted to open his door.??
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22 July 2016 - 12:18 PMSGCMmaomao
bro.. u heard of BOLA system not? now no such thing as last car pay all.. the rules has changed.. last car bear the highest liabliity will depend on how the accident happened..
Our insurance ruling is such ....last car insurance pay for everyone
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22 July 2016 - 01:28 PMYewhenghttps://sg.news.yaho...-143343722.html
TP now cannot reply email asking us to submit video in VCR already. It's an outdated technology and now the last man standing also decided to throw the towel and stop production lao. Haha..
22 July 2016 - 02:06 PMJoseph22How it work now is front car sue back car... Then back car sue the one at the back so on and so for...
bro.. u heard of BOLA system not? now no such thing as last car pay all.. the rules has changed.. last car bear the highest liabliity will depend on how the accident happened..
Then when loss Liao.. Front car expense load in second car... Then second car try to put the front loading and own car claim to the one behind... So on and so for....
So technically it's still last car bear whole cost if proven the last car is liable for all the rest of the accident...
I was involve in a chain collision before and I am the second car... Total 4 car... All I know is I am clear of liability for the first car damage and my own car damage.
Problem is even if they break suddenly... They will say why u tail gate... Didn't dollow safety distant.Was told that that's the previous old rule. New one is as per what one bro described above.
Just to add... something is not morally and technically sound regarding the front car claim back car rule in chain collision. It will not discourage illicit touts from workshop and bad driving habits (stop suddenly to change direction, view road signs or taxi pick up passenger). They all can do so with zero insurance and legal cost. DISAGREE!
If can prove front most car is at fault, all cars behind should claim that one car in front.
All get camera please.
22 July 2016 - 02:08 PMBeehive3783I clearly remember it was VCD. Not VCR.
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22 July 2016 - 02:31 PMYewhengI clearly remember it was VCD. Not VCR.
Oops.. Psps..
22 July 2016 - 02:34 PMDavidtchWas told that that's the previous old rule. New one is as per what one bro described above.
Just to add... something is not morally and technically sound regarding the front car claim back car rule in chain collision. It will not discourage illicit touts from workshop and bad driving habits (stop suddenly to change direction, view road signs or taxi pick up passenger). They all can do so with zero insurance and legal cost. DISAGREE!
If can prove front most car is at fault, all cars behind should claim that one car in front.
All get camera please.�
I rem someone here did say that camera will promote bad driving behaviour.� I wonder what will he do in your situation despite having a 9 yr old car.
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22 July 2016 - 05:04 PMNzyWas told that that's the previous old rule. New one is as per what one bro described above.
Just to add... something is not morally and technically sound regarding the front car claim back car rule in chain collision. It will not discourage illicit touts from workshop and bad driving habits (stop suddenly to change direction, view road signs or taxi pick up passenger). They all can do so with zero insurance and legal cost. DISAGREE!
If can prove front most car is at fault, all cars behind should claim that one car in front.
All get camera please.�
The reasoning behind why the back car always at fault is because the front car could be stopping for any reason but it is the back car's responsibility to keep a safe distance to ensure that there is time to react and stop. There is no reason to rear-end someone unless the driver never keep safe distance.
22 July 2016 - 08:01 PMBismarckThe reasoning behind why the back car always at fault is because the front car could be stopping for any reason but it is the back car's responsibility to keep a safe distance to ensure that there is time to react and stop. There is no reason to rear-end someone unless the driver never keep safe distance.
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22 July 2016 - 08:16 PMNzyNo wonder there are wonderful road hoggers who really ensure ample space in front of them
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22 July 2016 - 08:18 PMPocyI don't call them road hoggers if going similar speed as the vehicle in front. It's just the safety (braking) distance apart between two vehicles,No wonder there are wonderful road hoggers who really ensure ample space in front of them
22 July 2016 - 08:19 PMBismarckIf its a 2s gap, I don't think considered hogging unless its on the overtaking lane. The car infront is still a hogger if he doesn't give way to a car approaching fast, even if there is another hogger in front.
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22 July 2016 - 08:30 PMPocy 22 July 2016 - 08:37 PMBlackyv 22 July 2016 - 08:45 PMApple-TreeMy case very straight forward lor ...... the moment I got out the car.
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a) Drivers A & B "seem" to know each other as their acting skill very poor. �Even TCS will not take them as carrefare.
b) Both are smiling. They are sure very happy that day.
c) Both refuse to provide full name, particulars, insurance or as per GIA Framework.
d) Both drive off in a hurry.
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I reported item c and d lor. Item a and b, no proof, no report. �You only reported things which you are in the know lor. �This report, very important as all parties can see and can be use as evidence in courts for you or against you. �So if judge find your essay very bad, then good luck lor.
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Only me, Driver D & E very sian.
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Lucky for me ??? Accident after 8 days into a new insurance cycle lor, because this type of case can pend a long time. �I got 1 year to settle lor. �I settle behind car within 2 weeks - I accept all offer anyhow lor. I very flexi one.
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By year end renewal, I notice the premium was actually cheaper than last year. �I tot Income made a mistake. �Then they said I was released from all liabilities lor. �Not reason given.
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NCD not affected, I got NCD protection anyway - FREE. �Was told there would be a "slight" increase premium lor if 3rd P claim successful.
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If car usage is not high for you, suggest you take loss of use claim by money rather than courtesy car. �I got about 3K for loss of use. $120 per day for CAT B car.
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I can take taxi everyday ....... heeeee ....... I took MRT.
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Income has the Orange Force to take care EVERYTHING. �That why I ONLY buy Income.
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Pray when you see a good temple, and learn and wise up lor .....
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The 'very standard' and 'always front car claim back car' are what the A-WS told me too.
Also agree on better to go A-WS. On this, let me share for awareness. ... the workshop touts arrived swiftly to accident scene and make me very pissed off. Have to spend half my energy to ask them to **** off, while handling the situation (raining, 4 cars owners to exchange details, huge traffic jam). They are VERY persistant. I can understand, because I heard that they will receive 3k commission immediately by bringing victims to their friend's workshop. The touts got about 3 of the victims. If I have followed the tout and not gone to my insurance assigned premium workshop, I may not have gotten the right deals, including a replacement car.
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22 July 2016 - 08:58 PMNzyThe road hogger doesnt need to give way what, if based on what you said
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Err, English not your first language? In an accident, its the rear car's fault. He chose to take the risk and tailgate/don't keep safe distance. I don't see how keeping a safe distance is being a hogger. A hogger is someone that doesn't give way to a faster car behind. Nothing to do with safe distance or not.
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22 July 2016 - 09:04 PMBismarckErr, English not your first language? In an accident, its the rear car's fault. He chose to take the risk and tailgate/don't keep safe distance. I don't see how keeping a safe distance is being a hogger. A hogger is someone that doesn't give way to a faster car behind. Nothing to do with safe distance or not.
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22 July 2016 - 09:12 PMNzyYes you are right. But usually a road hogger will keep a big distance from the car in front, and doesnt really care what is going on behind him, becaue he knows that if anything, it is always the rear car's fault.�
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So? It still doesn't mean that a person who keeps a safe distance is a hogger. A hogger is just someone who doesn't want to give way to cars behind. Most hoggers know that there are cars behind. They just don't want to give way cuz they think they are travelling at the speed limit already.
22 July 2016 - 09:19 PMApple-TreeYou are right. �Our visibility is only the claim behind us and we claim us, that is, we claim behind and we get to choose to accept the offer to close the case. Hence a "standard" procedure.
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After that, there is another round between insurers lor, they will assign the liabilities. If you are assign with a fault liabilities of less than 30%, then your NCD is not affected lor.
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According to chain collision scenario in BOLA. Back car only claim immediate front car and so forth. No more last car bao ga liao. Even if all got car videos to show it's solely last car's fault, not sure if the insurers will deviate from guideline and all claim last car.
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22 July 2016 - 09:50 PMMustankNot like this mehWATCH OUT !! for men in black !!
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22 July 2016 - 10:51 PMToothiewabbit 22 July 2016 - 10:52 PMMcf777 22 July 2016 - 11:03 PMECONOMICThanks bro for sharing. Surprise that this day and age still got pple refuse to exchange particulars and ID. Sibei Kah. ...My case very straight forward lor ...... the moment I got out the car.
a) Drivers A & B "seem" to know each other as their acting skill very poor. Even TCS will not take them as carrefare.
b) Both are smiling. They are sure very happy that day.
c) Both refuse to provide full name, particulars, insurance or as per GIA Framework.
d) Both drive off in a hurry.
I reported item c and d lor. Item a and b, no proof, no report. You only reported things which you are in the know lor. This report, very important as all parties can see and can be use as evidence in courts for you or against you. So if judge find your essay very bad, then good luck lor.
Only me, Driver D & E very sian.
Lucky for me ??? Accident after 8 days into a new insurance cycle lor, because this type of case can pend a long time. I got 1 year to settle lor. I settle behind car within 2 weeks - I accept all offer anyhow lor. I very flexi one.
By year end renewal, I notice the premium was actually cheaper than last year. I tot Income made a mistake. Then they said I was released from all liabilities lor. Not reason given.
NCD not affected, I got NCD protection anyway - FREE. Was told there would be a "slight" increase premium lor if 3rd P claim successful.
If car usage is not high for you, suggest you take loss of use claim by money rather than courtesy car. I got about 3K for loss of use. $120 per day for CAT B car.
I can take taxi everyday ....... heeeee ....... I took MRT.
Income has the Orange Force to take care EVERYTHING. That why I ONLY buy Income.
Pray when you see a good temple, and learn and wise up lor .....
22 July 2016 - 11:11 PMLurpsexxAlmost seem like suicide car bomber lidat.. was expecting the car to go ka-boom after it crashed into the compound..the bystanders still mill around the car..wa lao..run Liao lo..Car ram into Bangkok Four Face Buddha Temple
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22 July 2016 - 11:14 PMECONOMICYa I know that theory. Only good as a general guide, as there are exceptions. So, your last sentence is not true. I rear ended the front car even though I kept a safe distance and thus able to stopped in time. You know why? Because after I have stopped, the car behind me pushed me to hit the front car. So how is your last statement true?The reasoning behind why the back car always at fault is because the front car could be stopping for any reason but it is the back car's responsibility to keep a safe distance to ensure that there is time to react and stop. There is no reason to rear-end someone unless the driver never keep safe distance.
Anyway, not keen for a debate as I am more concerned about whiplash now.
22 July 2016 - 11:32 PMNzyYa I know that theory. Only good as a general guide, as there are exceptions. So, your last sentence is not true. I rear ended the front car even though I kept a safe distance and thus able to stopped in time. You know why? Because after I have stopped, the car behind me pushed me to hit the front car. So how is your last statement true?
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You should be able to claim from the car behind since you stopped in-time. Btw, if the car behind you is tailgating, keep a bigger gap from the car infront so that there will be more time to slow down gradually. Or just get out of his way. Lol. That is taught in driving school. So it is still the responsibility of the car behind to ensure that there is enough space. The car infront can't increase the space so not his fault if there is not enough time for the cars behind to stop.
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So, if you can prove that you stopped in-time but the car behind pushed you forward, you'll be able to claim from the car behind for your medical bills and damages and whatever the first car is claiming from you also.
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23 July 2016 - 12:13 AMPocyIf already going at speed limit, should not be considered a road hogger even behind vehicle coming at a higher speed exceeding the speed limit.So? It still doesn't mean that a person who keeps a safe distance is a hogger. A hogger is just someone who doesn't want to give way to cars behind. Most hoggers know that there are cars behind. They just don't want to give way cuz they think they are travelling at the speed limit already.
23 July 2016 - 12:43 AMHamburgerThanks bro for sharing. Surprise that this day and age still got pple refuse to exchange particulars and ID. Sibei Kah. ...
Just take some pix especially with the license plate and go, change particulars for what?
Let the insurance co handle all these.
23 July 2016 - 02:04 AMBeanoyipSingapore drivers and bikers alike like to chiong red light. This biker deserved it. Look at the speed he was travelling to chiong the light. Must have seen amber and went faster but light already changed when he crossed.
Don't know why SG still don't implement controlled turning for all junctions.. this will minimise all risk..
23 July 2016 - 06:30 AMOthelloIf already going at speed limit, should not be considered a road hogger even behind vehicle coming at a higher speed exceeding the speed limit.
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23 July 2016 - 07:48 AMLokiNo wonder there are wonderful road hoggers who really ensure ample space in front of them
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23 July 2016 - 09:09 AMVidDon't know why SG still don't implement controlled turning for all junctions.. this will minimise all risk..
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Too used to current rules. A change also not simple.
23 July 2016 - 11:55 AMAudi2016here we go again ......�
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Lazy educate these buggers liao.. Later become flame war again.
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Cannot argue with stupidity one.. They will drag you down to their level & beat you with experience.
23 July 2016 - 12:31 PMTtl1976this ... i have to give u 5.Lazy educate these buggers liao.. Later become flame war again.
Cannot argue with stupidity one.. They will drag you down to their level & beat you with experience.
stubborn ones especially those old farts, ego bigger than the sky one....
cano never understand road hoggers means roger hog even if u stick to speed limit.
23 July 2016 - 01:14 PMBismarckEncountered one idiot silver Merc C180 on CTE going south towards AYE. Fella left about 300m clear in front of him. I overtook him on the left at AMK Ave 5 area and after I drove off, saw him blocking an ambulance the same way all the way to the PIE/Serangoon Rd exit area.
I know their mentality. If based on what Nsy said, they will not bother to give way at all coz if rear ended its the fault of the rear car. And they keep a big space in front so that they won't hit any car in front. Selfish mentality to the max.
23 July 2016 - 04:32 PMTedlhwLazy educate these buggers liao.. Later become flame war again.
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I agree with you.
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Actually i feel Singapore is too well regulated, resulting in extreme intolerance..("hey thats illegal you know!!")
As can be evidenced by sooo many bo liao websites like stomp and also so many minor things on the road..
all post big big on social media to name and shame..
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Really...let who has not sinned cast the first stone..
Ironically thats the actual reason why got so much ungracious and guai lan behaviors.
As long as legal can liao.
Let me illustrate my point.
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In JB, if got car tailgate super close.. Come very fast from behind. Will you give way? I would. Why? Who knows if the guy behind is up to no good or trying to rob me..
In SG, KNN, i am legal... bloody tailgater .. you cannot do anything to me. If i angry i jam brake.. cos if accident is your fault..
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In the US, not happy with anyone on the road.. you play jam brake? Or 3rd finger? Or cut people off? Or would you , suah.. just overtake and ignore. I most likely just ignore.
Why? Who know if the fella is armed with a gun?
Or maybe he is driving like an a**hole cos he is a drug dealer running from police?
Wait if i give him the finger or piss him off, he start shooting at me?
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23 July 2016 - 06:41 PMMustankI agree with you.
Actually i feel Singapore is too well regulated, resulting in extreme intolerance..("hey thats illegal you know!!")
As can be evidenced by sooo many bo liao websites like stomp and also so many minor things on the road..
all post big big on social media to name and shame..
Really...let who has not sinned cast the first stone..
Ironically thats the actual reason why got so much ungracious and guai lan behaviors.
As long as legal can liao.
Let me illustrate my point.
In JB, if got car tailgate super close.. Come very fast from behind. Will you give way? I would. Why? Who knows if the guy behind is up to no good or trying to rob me..
In SG, KNN, i am legal... bloody tailgater .. you cannot do anything to me. If i angry i jam brake.. cos if accident is your fault..
In the US, not happy with anyone on the road.. you play jam brake? Or 3rd finger? Or cut people off? Or would you , suah.. just overtake and ignore. I most likely just ignore.
Why? Who know if the fella is armed with a gun?
Or maybe he is driving like an a**hole cos he is a drug dealer running from police?
Wait if i give him the finger or piss him off, he start shooting at me?
In my opinion, the potential threat of violence with very little or limited recourse actually makes people more tolerant.
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23 July 2016 - 07:40 PMSuPerBoRedSuch a simple thing also debate non-stop...
Be aware of ur surroundings.. Someone wants to go faster than you.. Yield lane 1. It's called being considerate..
23 July 2016 - 07:51 PMTtl1976regardless how or what the speed limit, if there is a car approaching from the back, I will auto siam regardless his is a chery QQ or ferrari.
Knn, I have no idea why those self righteous ego farts trying to argue about?
Seem too many, ignored way too many.
signal left, overtake and bye bye to u.
23 July 2016 - 08:49 PMJellandrossDriver's legs impaled after car crash in Bukit Timah
http://www.straitsti...-in-bukit-timah
SINGAPORE - A driver's legs were impaled by a road divider after he crashed his car on Upper Bukit Timah Road on Saturday (July 23) morning.
The 26-year-old man was trapped and officers from the Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) extricated him from the car with hydraulic rescue tools.
The accident, involving one car, happened near Springdale Condominium in the early hours of Saturday morning at about 3.30am.
The crash victim was conscious when he was taken to the National University Hospital, SCDF said.
It is understood that a metal rod from the road divider had penetrated both his thighs.
Eyewitnesses told Shin Min Daily News that the car flipped over when it crashed.
Five passers-by stopped to help, the report said. They turned the car over and waited with the driver for help to arrive.
They also kept the driver awake by talking to him while they waited, one witness said.
SCDF said it sent one fire engine, a Red Rhino, one ambulance and a support vehicle to the scene.
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23 July 2016 - 08:49 PMDavidtchReminder to all drivers who had passes their BTT eons ago
Keep left
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23 July 2016 - 09:26 PMNzy
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23 July 2016 - 09:44 PMOthelloDriver's legs impaled after car crash in Bukit Timah
http://www.straitsti...-in-bukit-timah
SINGAPORE - A driver's legs were impaled by a road divider after he crashed his car on Upper Bukit Timah Road on Saturday (July 23) morning.
The 26-year-old man was trapped and officers from the Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) extricated him from the car with hydraulic rescue tools.
The accident, involving one car, happened near Springdale Condominium in the early hours of Saturday morning at about 3.30am.
The crash victim was conscious when he was taken to the National University Hospital, SCDF said.
It is understood that a metal rod from the road divider had penetrated both his thighs.
Eyewitnesses told Shin Min Daily News that the car flipped over when it crashed.
Five passers-by stopped to help, the report said. They turned the car over and waited with the driver for help to arrive.
They also kept the driver awake by talking to him while they waited, one witness said.
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24 July 2016 - 07:51 PMOthello�
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24 July 2016 - 08:10 PMJman888maybe the owner find it ugly to have barrier, moreover it was likely to be a one off accident.Was there this morning. Thought they would have erected barrier
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25 July 2016 - 09:39 AMDuckduck
25 July 2016 - 09:49 AMRadXwtf happened? fight ah
25 July 2016 - 09:53 AMKtglfc 25 July 2016 - 09:53 AMEnye 25 July 2016 - 09:59 AMWoeiSongKeh�
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25 July 2016 - 10:12 AMVratenzaThe cam guy very happy....
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25 July 2016 - 10:18 AMVratenzaFatal Accident this morning KJE....blue tent come out...
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The accident during the morning rush hour took place in the direction of the Pan Island Expressway (PIE) after the Brickland Road exit.
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25 July 2016 - 10:25 AMVidThe cam guy very happy....
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25 July 2016 - 10:45 AMMustankwtf happened? fight ah
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25 July 2016 - 11:28 AMWoeiSongKeh�
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Dangerous driving in Malaysia after pump petrol (Without Paying)
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25 July 2016 - 11:45 AMuniquely_adOld caseSKS645J Civic
Dangerous driving in Malaysia after pump petrol (Without Paying)
This kind of idiot really bloody spoil market, next time they will want sg cars to put deposit too if more of this kind of things happen.
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25 July 2016 - 11:48 AMBeehive3783This is the Civic that was stolen in Malaysia last year leh
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25 July 2016 - 12:40 PMKingkongwtf happened? fight ah
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25 July 2016 - 12:45 PMNzy�
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The cam guy very happy....
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25 July 2016 - 12:46 PMMcf777Saw someone post this
Punggol area (beside SPC)
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25 July 2016 - 01:00 PMBismarckSaw someone post this
Punggol area (beside SPC)
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25 July 2016 - 01:03 PMStefanKLooks like distracted and going quite fast.
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25 July 2016 - 01:12 PMVolvobrickDriver got time to honk but did not try to siam at all.....
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25 July 2016 - 02:26 PMDarrynLooks like distracted and going quite fast.
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Cartrain dreaming man -Speed is hard to judge, but didn't try to siam at all,
and it was obvious that the lorry wasn't slowing down...
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25 July 2016 - 02:52 PMKingkongDriver got time to honk but did not try to siam at all.....
Local driver mentality. Anything, horn first, then 'father/mother' come out from mouth, then pray hard the other party do the siam manoeuvre for them...
25 July 2016 - 02:53 PMEWanderLooks like distracted and going quite fast.
Full impact, never apply brake until impact
25 July 2016 - 02:57 PMVratenzaRadX haven't announce gate open yet already got some slip through liao?
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Punggol area (beside SPC)
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25 July 2016 - 02:58 PMHamburgercam car hit the hardest part of a lorry. The corner.
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25 July 2016 - 03:02 PMEnder 25 July 2016 - 03:10 PMDarrynWhite car bumper looks like there's blood. Maybe hit a pedestrian.
I think is oil ...you can see quite a big pool of "vital car fluid" beside the taxi
25 July 2016 - 03:16 PMApple-Tree100% Guaranteed No Top No Rebate.
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25 July 2016 - 03:29 PMPassionWhite car looks like Uber car. Recently so many Sienta, Altis, Vezel and Axio added onto the road as Uber. Could likely be one of them.
25 July 2016 - 03:41 PMDavidtch100% Guaranteed No Top No Rebate.
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25 July 2016 - 03:54 PMApple-TreeUnless otherwise, all COE get to be reborn as another cat ?
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25 July 2016 - 04:09 PM7hm�
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25 July 2016 - 04:12 PMJoseph22Maybe car left 1 year... He want claim insurance for next car down payment.cam car hit the hardest part of a lorry. The corner.
why the need to chiong at a junction even though you may have the right of way.
25 July 2016 - 04:31 PMDavidtchUnless otherwise, all COE get to be reborn as another cat ?
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25 July 2016 - 07:12 PMNzyGoing forward, very likely these COE will dissappear.� Unlikely to be re-born.
You gave LTA another idea. Maybe next time, cars that are written off due to accident, COE will not recycle. Lol. Then can go carlite.
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25 July 2016 - 07:47 PMJellandrossSaw someone post this
Punggol area (beside SPC)
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25 July 2016 - 09:29 PMFcw75The airbags never activate??
25 July 2016 - 09:38 PM7hmYou gave LTA another idea. Maybe next time, cars that are written off due to accident, COE will not recycle. Lol. Then can go carlite.
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25 July 2016 - 09:39 PMRayleighAnother angle.
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25 July 2016 - 09:41 PMDavidtchYou gave LTA another idea. Maybe next time, cars that are written off due to accident, COE will not recycle. Lol. Then can go carlite.
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26 July 2016 - 09:25 AMMustankMust be lorry!Saw someone post this
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26 July 2016 - 09:29 AMKtglfcIt pays to adopt defensive driving. Yes, no doubt the car is in right of way and lorry should have have been more vigilant, this accident can be avoided if defensive driving has been adopted. At the end of the day, it is a lose lose for both of them
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26 July 2016 - 09:40 AMPassionAnother angle.
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Hahaha.. Been curious what car is it that go head on with the lorry. Though the Hyundai will win the case, but he will not drive an "original" car anymore. Anyway, this Hyundai car also damn stupid, see it coming but don't want to slow down, or no attempt to slow down. My car, even 9 year 11 months I also won't go and head on like that. Win doesn't mean head on and is ok. Or maybe his front already chui, need new spray paint. Or radiator already going to spoil, go and bang and change a new one. If because of that, then I say he is smart to "leech" on the insurance. Anyway, sticker until like that, I don't think he drive like a saint. * General stereotype for people who tia sticker and think their car can from Lancer become Evo and Civic become Type R*
26 July 2016 - 09:48 AMBeregondHahaha.. Been curious what car is it that go head on with the lorry. Though the Hyundai will win the case, but he will not drive an "original" car anymore. Anyway, this Hyundai car also damn stupid, see it coming but don't want to slow down, or no attempt to slow down. My car, even 9 year 11 months I also won't go and head on like that. Win doesn't mean head on and is ok. Or maybe his front already chui, need new spray paint. Or radiator already going to spoil, go and bang and change a new one. If because of that, then I say he is smart to "leech" on the insurance. Anyway, sticker until like that, I don't think he drive like a saint. * General stereotype for people who tia sticker and think their car can from Lancer become Evo and Civic become Type R*
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maybe his burget damn tight?
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anyway no job now, insurance claim gao gao, car repair swee swee, spare car some more,
no job relax in hospital bed loh.
26 July 2016 - 09:55 AMKeiraDarwinian selection for COE? Ha! Good idea!
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spruce up like racer but without racer reflexes?
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The car look ugly, Iron man wannabe....
26 July 2016 - 10:19 AMJthlThe driver is too slow to react (did not anticipate the lorry turning)
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26 July 2016 - 10:29 AMFcw75Screamed like orgasm coming.
26 July 2016 - 10:32 AMins1dious�
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26 July 2016 - 11:49 AMMustankScreamed like orgasm coming.
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26 July 2016 - 01:14 PMNzyIt pays to adopt defensive driving. Yes, no doubt the car is in right of way and lorry should have have been more vigilant, this accident can be avoided if defensive driving has been adopted. At the end of the day, it is a lose lose for both of them
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I think the driver distracted. The reaction time really slow.
26 July 2016 - 03:30 PMdesbooThe junction traffic lights got accident detection system? All started blinking when the impact happened!
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26 July 2016 - 04:32 PMLoki
26 July 2016 - 04:37 PMSp4wn�
driver doing initial D ah. in wet weather some more. bloody idiot.
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26 July 2016 - 04:44 PMNoob79Saw someone post this
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My guess is that the driver was probably not concentrating on the road, probably distracted by handphone or something, from the car plate number, the car should have another 3 years to go, it makes no sense to try to claim insurance... Anyway, hope that both parties are all ok.
26 July 2016 - 04:44 PMEviilusionTyre no good in wet? Brakes no good in wet? Car suspension no good so cannot take corner on wet? Most prob lousy driver in wet weather! 26 July 2016 - 04:59 PM2BDriverTyre no good in wet? Brakes no good in wet? Car suspension no good so cannot take corner on wet? Most prob lousy driver in wet weather!
28 July 2016 - 10:22 AMMyxilplixseems like car�skidded for no reason??
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28 July 2016 - 10:47 AMTtl1976wowA case of road hogger giving his explanation to TP officer when asked to stop over in Taiwan. Sorry to those who dun speak Mandarin or non-chinese. The driver is dissatisfied that he is being booked.
F10 polis car wor.
28 July 2016 - 11:08 AMTameDriverA case of road hogger giving his explanation to TP officer when asked to stop over in Taiwan. Sorry to those who dun speak Mandarin or non-chinese. The driver is dissatisfied that he is being booked.
Bloody typical Road Hogger & his self serving lame excuses.
TP should give him an additional summon for being argumentative.
28 July 2016 - 01:23 PMKingkongTP should give him an additional summon for being argumentative.
Wah, like that many of the locals will get the summons lei.
You know lar, our locals will NEVER ever admit they are wrong, even if caught red-handed one.
This is call "pak-see-mai-jin" aka "kena beaten till death also don't admit".
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28 July 2016 - 02:26 PMMadtariseems like car�skidded for no reason??
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Is there anyone else who noticed that this joker did not brake at all? Only until the very end then he/she remembered to brake. Seems like tio stunned like a vegetable!
28 July 2016 - 02:30 PMNzyIs there anyone else who noticed that this joker did not brake at all? Only until the very end then he/she remembered to brake. Seems like tio stunned like a vegetable!
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IMO, the driver did the right thing. Braking when the tires got no grip and already sliding won't help much. Might even make it worse. Better to just leave the pedals alone and try to steer in the direction the car is sliding and hope the front tires regain traction.
28 July 2016 - 02:43 PMTohtoIMO, the driver did the right thing. Braking when the tires got no grip and already sliding won't help much. Might even make it worse. Better to just leave the pedals alone and try to steer in the direction the car is sliding and hope the front tires regain traction.
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28 July 2016 - 02:57 PMMadtariIMO, the driver did the right thing. Braking when the tires got no grip and already sliding won't help much. Might even make it worse. Better to just leave the pedals alone and try to steer in the direction the car is sliding and hope the front tires regain traction.
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True if driver brakes really hard. But shouldn't it be better to brake slightly as compared to no brake at all?
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28 July 2016 - 03:39 PMHamburgermaybe just do a full lock and pull the hand brake.....
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28 July 2016 - 04:09 PMJman888maybe just do a full lock and pull the hand brake.....
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28 July 2016 - 05:15 PMDavidtchTrue if driver brakes really hard. But shouldn't it be better to brake slightly as compared to no brake at all?
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28 July 2016 - 05:33 PMWheelsloverIs there anyone else who noticed that this joker did not brake at all? Only until the very end then he/she remembered to brake. Seems like tio stunned like a vegetable!
I call this Lau Lan, want to take corner but end up "drifting" like shit.
28 July 2016 - 07:03 PMMustankA case of road hogger giving his explanation to TP officer when asked to stop over in Taiwan. Sorry to those who dun speak Mandarin or non-chinese. The driver is dissatisfied that he is being booked.
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28 July 2016 - 07:24 PMEviilusioni dont understand but confirm he says he is not breaking the law, that he was within the speed limit, that he is a law abiding citizen, that he dont understand why he is being pulled over by the tp. Am i correct?A case of road hogger giving his explanation to TP officer when asked to stop over in Taiwan. Sorry to those who dun speak Mandarin or non-chinese. The driver is dissatisfied that he is being booked.
29 July 2016 - 12:51 AMUnfazedIf I m not wrong, the speed limit there is 110km/h.Drive on overtaking lane when other lanes are empty - checked
Insist nothing wrong with driving at speed limit on overtaking lane even when not overtaking- checked
Clueless about hogging a long chain of cars behind - checked
See police kancheong jam brake - checked
After much explanation, still don't understand why his action is road hogging - checked
Every response to police is "but but but..." and "becos.. becos.. becos..." - checked
Suppose to "rush" home after work so he can't understand why he is hogging goondu logic - checked
Cannot differentiate between keeping within speed limit and road hogging - checked
Ownself say ownself as law-abiding safe driver - checked
Seems like road hogs everywhere give same excuses one leh.
Overall I find the officer was quite nice n patient.
The driver made known he didnt exceed speed limit and asked if it was a routine random road check when pulled over. The officer acknowledged the first point n said he will let him know soon.
Officer then clearly explained reason of pulling him over simply bcos he traveled in the wrong lane with inappropriate speed causing a long tail of vehicles behind. Officer stressed that he had been observing driver for a while then decided to pull him over inconsideration of safety.
Officer educated that the extreme left lane should be used only for overtaking purpose n speed in this lane normally hovers between 100 to 110 km/h, but officer said he had already gave chance to driver by lowering to 90km/h.
Officer went on to explain that he had to pull driver over as a last straw when driver further tapped his brake upon seeing officer bringing the speed even lower in the leftmost lane to 88km/h as that is far too slow.
What happened later in the video was the driver trying to justify that it was purely logically human nature to brake whenever they see an officer so he should not be booked just bcos of that n went on (gentlemanly, actually hypocritically) to stress that should not be a way to treat law abiding citizen. Driver stressed to officer that 2km/h slower should not get him a ticket. Officer said its not 2km/h but 12km/h dropping fr 100km/h. 90km/h was the speed that officer lowered n wanted to give some chance.
Driver explained he has no opportunity of moving bk to inner lane as it was occupied with cars exceeding speed limit (if I m not wrong), officer said the vehicles had to exceed speed limit to overtake him on wrong lane bcos he is far too slow by taking up that overtaking lane. In addition to that braking was a potential accident hazard to others.
Driver then requested for a warning but officer said (this is the best part) if no amount of education can cultivate, then a summon had to be in place. Officer stressed that he had to do his job as a road enforcer.
Driver insisted he had been wronged n stated he will not sign. Officer said driver has all the right not to sign as driver can decide to appeal or not.
Driver later post this video up on web to air his fustration.
Hope my summary is clear as it could for non-chinese or non-mandarin speaker.
29 July 2016 - 09:42 AMMustankUmbrella fly out need to brake one meh?umbrella flew out from lorry, taxi e-brake .
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Just run over it lah!
29 July 2016 - 09:44 AMJman888Umbrella fly out need to brake one meh?
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29 July 2016 - 09:49 AMMyxilplixTrue if driver brakes really hard. But shouldn't it be better to brake slightly as compared to no brake at all?
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FWD car so a driver who knew what he/she was doing/was and was confident enough would probably just power out of it.
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29 July 2016 - 09:59 AMMustankShould karh karh lootpanic mah, people do funny thing when they are panic
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29 July 2016 - 10:17 AMGizmoreumbrella flew out from lorry, taxi e-brake .
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29 July 2016 - 10:32 AMVratenzadon't think is an umbrella. more like a folded tarpaulin cover that got unfurled by the air turbulence generated when the lorry drove pass the chemical tanker.
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29 July 2016 - 10:45 AMOthelloI have to say cam driver is really slow and possibly is not aware of the traffic beyond the car directly in front of him.�
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When a vehicle in front jams brake, nothing the car behind can do except to hope the distance is far enough and he have 6 Pot Brembos
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29 July 2016 - 10:58 AMLaiwhI beg to differ...cam car was probably still in the midst of completing his lane changing. His eyes might be looking at the blindspot or side mirror at the split second when the taxi jammed brake.�
29 July 2016 - 11:14 AMCaravanumbrella flew out from lorry, taxi e-brake .
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29 July 2016 - 11:25 AMStefanKCam car seems to be straddling the lane? Like undecided whether to change lane or not?
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29 July 2016 - 11:36 AMDleodleohttp://www.straitsti...angi-coast-road
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29 July 2016 - 12:01 PMOthelloHmmm, accident don't look that bad. No seatbelt perhaps?
29 July 2016 - 12:11 PMBluerayumbrella flew out from lorry, taxi e-brake .
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29 July 2016 - 12:18 PMJthlmaybe hot kopi spill on LP during impact lor ...�
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29 July 2016 - 12:22 PMBluerayaiyo. very unfortunate.
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29 July 2016 - 12:29 PMOthelloOpen and shut case. Taxi claim cam car. Full stopaiyo. very unfortunate.
How to do claim?
edited "ops...I meant the accident of the taxi and car" hahaha
29 July 2016 - 12:34 PMKennnnySounds like playing Resident evil, blood left 1 bar, kana bitten to death by zombie. Painful death.
29 July 2016 - 12:49 PMCount-BraculaSo? It still doesn't mean that a person who keeps a safe distance is a hogger. A hogger is just someone who doesn't want to give way to cars behind. Most hoggers know that there are cars behind. They just don't want to give way cuz they think they are travelling at the speed limit already.
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Umbrella fly out need to brake one meh?
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29 July 2016 - 03:34 PMVoxy28�
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29 July 2016 - 03:36 PMBenTongThe ghosts around that stretch of road probably will get blamed for this..Looks like a forrester?
29 July 2016 - 03:38 PMFcw75That stretch is haunted.
29 July 2016 - 03:46 PMWatwheelsWhy not blame it on driver's fatigue?
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If ppl say it's haunted....I say there got aliens.
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29 July 2016 - 04:02 PMBenTongMay not even be Drivers fatigue.. More like reckless and speed.. With all that hpWhy not blame it on driver's fatigue?
If ppl say it's haunted....I say there got aliens.
29 July 2016 - 04:16 PMJellandrossI enjoy taking the longer route sometimes to drive on changi coast rd. Very relaxing and easy drive during light traffic. At that hour and traffic, can't imagine how to get into such a car wreck.http://www.straitsti...angi-coast-road
1 killed, 5 injured after accident on Changi Coast Road. Accident this morning.
So far never encounter any ghosts, fairies, aliens, vampires or werewolves there. Speedsters quite a few. Pls be considerate to beings from alternate dimensions. Don't always blame them for problems caused by humans.
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29 July 2016 - 04:32 PMt0y0taLooks like a forrester?
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29 July 2016 - 04:33 PMPocyCam car should check rear and sides (also blind spots) then the lane he wanted to filter before starting to filter lane. Careless driving.
29 July 2016 - 04:45 PMMacrosszeroThat stretch is haunted.
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29 July 2016 - 04:46 PMDarthrevanHmmm, accident don't look that bad. No seatbelt perhaps?
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29 July 2016 - 04:50 PMMacrosszeroI beg to differ...cam car was probably still in the midst of completing his lane changing. His eyes might be looking at the blindspot or side mirror at the split second when the taxi jammed brake.�
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29 July 2016 - 04:54 PMJman888�
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29 July 2016 - 06:37 PMOthelloCam car should check rear and sides (also blind spots) then the lane he wanted to filter before starting to filter lane. Careless driving.
Well, all the checking in the world is useless if the car IN FRONT jams brake
the report only states 1 car lehall 6 in the same car?
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29 July 2016 - 06:45 PMPocyDue to our car population and heavy traffic, keeping safety distance no longer a practice among many. Haiz .....
29 July 2016 - 07:11 PMNzyall 6 in the same car? �
Should be. Since article say car crash into tree. Never mention any other car or pedestrians involved.
29 July 2016 - 08:11 PMAdrianliall 6 in the same car?
Just watched Ch8 news. Yes. All in one car. Age from 20 to 30 years old.
29 July 2016 - 08:22 PMNeutrinoDrive on overtaking lane when other lanes are empty - checked
Insist nothing wrong with driving at speed limit on overtaking lane even when not overtaking- checked
Clueless about hogging a long chain of cars behind - checked
See police kancheong jam brake - checked
After much explanation, still don't understand why his action is road hogging - checked
Every response to police is "but but but..." and "becos.. becos.. becos..." - checked
Suppose to "rush" home after work so he can't understand why he is hogging goondu logic - checked
Cannot differentiate between keeping within speed limit and road hogging - checked
Ownself say ownself as law-abiding safe driver - checked
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29 July 2016 - 08:23 PMOthelloJust watched Ch8 news. Yes. All in one car. Age from 20 to 30 years old.
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29 July 2016 - 08:32 PMJellandrossNo this is not a movie.
29 July 2016 - 08:40 PMlausai88No this is not a movie.
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29 July 2016 - 08:42 PMOthelloNo this is not a movie.
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29 July 2016 - 08:43 PMJellandrosssimi car so chiu�
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29 July 2016 - 09:13 PMJman888what did he crash into?No this is not a movie.
29 July 2016 - 09:21 PMVidwhat did he crash into?
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29 July 2016 - 09:45 PMER-3682No this is not a movie.
I think this car should be a RWD car,in excess speed of at least 120km/hwhen the driver took this right hander,it look like 'oversteer'.
29 July 2016 - 10:04 PMiphone8Forester 2.0 NA
Forester has 5 stars crash rating
Thought it is a safer car to drive
Or the drive was speeding...
29 July 2016 - 10:17 PMER-3682Forester has 5 stars crash rating
Thought it is a safer car to drive
Or the drive was speeding...
If Driver is Speeding,hit a tree when skidded,10 stars crash rating also useless...
Just 1 death is consider very lucky....
29 July 2016 - 10:26 PMNzyAll I can say is it looked like a Rolls Royce in the end.
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29 July 2016 - 10:39 PMSabretanrecently like a lot of skidding accidents....pls try to minimize this by checking your tyres....if treadwear is low, pls get it change. Esp if u like to speed. Not only for your own safety but other road users own safety.
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29 July 2016 - 10:44 PMNzypretty bad according to Channel 8's news..SCDF needed to use hydraulic cutter
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29 July 2016 - 11:59 PM7hmNo this is not a movie.
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30 July 2016 - 12:14 AMr1derLook a bit like a Camry...??
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30 July 2016 - 12:25 AMCount-BraculaI enjoy taking the longer route sometimes to drive on changi coast rd. Very relaxing and easy drive during light traffic. At that hour and traffic, can't imagine how to get into such a car wreck.
So far never encounter any ghosts, fairies, aliens, vampires or werewolves there. Speedsters quite a few. Pls be considerate to beings from alternate dimensions. Don't always blame them for problems caused by humans.
Vampire?
30 July 2016 - 12:33 AMEnderForester has 5 stars crash rating
Thought it is a safer car to drive
Or the drive was speeding...
Idiot driver reduce it to 1 star.
30 July 2016 - 12:45 AMHamburgerWhen did forester got a backside?
30 July 2016 - 02:33 AMalphard96I think it's Chrysler 300C.
i think so, with chrome wheels and red caliper brakes!
look like the driver takes the slight �R hand bend corner too fast (?speeding)
hope driver ok and no one else/pedestrian injured
and yes, cam car was very fortunate to have move off.
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30 July 2016 - 07:43 AMER-3682Look a bit like a Camry...??
More like old model Toyota Mark-X.
30 July 2016 - 08:21 AMBluerayi think so, with chrome wheels and red caliper brakes!
look like the driver takes the slight �R hand bend corner too fast (?speeding)
hope driver ok and no one else/pedestrian injured
and yes, cam car was very fortunate to have move off.
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30 July 2016 - 08:45 AMOthellothis is the road leaving Sin Ming industrial estate, small road and in the direction of residential area.
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30 July 2016 - 08:48 AMBluerayi wonder if the black car will be charged for beating the red light�
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30 July 2016 - 08:53 AMBobo07No this is not a movie.
LTA hotspot area, probably got illegal mod.. Saw LTA officer speed up to run... Speed is Gg quite fast at that small road area
30 July 2016 - 08:57 AMOthelloLTA hotspot area, probably got illegal mod.. Saw LTA officer speed up to run... Speed is Gg quite fast at that small road area
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30 July 2016 - 08:57 AMCaravan 30 July 2016 - 09:00 AMOthello 30 July 2016 - 09:05 AMEnyeI saw those opaque type sun shade still on the front windscreenNo this is not a movie.
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30 July 2016 - 01:30 PMMustankYep, safety + smelly + hygiene distance behind a dump truck. In all cases, will switch lane and zoom ... zoom off.
Wanna gate crash LTA, minimum also need a dump truck full of cement Hahahahahahahamaybe intention was to crash into LTA office ... but GPS map not updated so build up speed at wrong junction ...
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30 July 2016 - 01:43 PMER-3682Lol officers always lurk ard that area
Agreed,too many WorkShops doing illegal modification there..
30 July 2016 - 01:46 PMOthelloRe : Sin Ming Road Accident
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30 July 2016 - 02:33 PMBlackyvVideo no more?... Wanna hear how porker scream...,,
If Driver is Speeding,hit a tree when skidded,10 stars crash rating also useless...
Just 1 death is consider very lucky....
Agree, ...so far, not many can win a tree...
30 July 2016 - 03:32 PMJellandrossRe : Sin Ming Road Accident
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Just a normal straight road. Except for suicide, I can't think of another possibility of crashing a car like this.
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30 July 2016 - 03:39 PMBluerayRe : Sin Ming Road Accident
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Another video from another car cam
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aiyo .. hope for their own sake its their car and not customer's car ...�
30 July 2016 - 04:30 PMYesheNo this is not a movie.
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bugger trying to drift the corner but epic failure.
cam car damn fortunate to miss that by seconds
30 July 2016 - 04:35 PMApple-Tree 30 July 2016 - 04:49 PMJq1988bugger trying to drift the corner but epic failure.
cam car damn fortunate to miss that by seconds
Super lucky...
30 July 2016 - 04:49 PMToothiewabbitRe : Sin Ming Road Accident
Another video from another car cam
https://web.facebook...207321126486413
And it gets even juicier
Apparently, inside the Saab were 3 mechanics !!!
either taking a joyride or unintended acceleration arh?
30 July 2016 - 05:12 PMMacrosszeroThis is the reason why I always hang around the workshop while my car is being serviced.�
30 July 2016 - 06:12 PMLotrLook a bit like a Camry...??
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after seeing another time, my best guess would be a mark x
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er3682 also mentioned that it is a RWD so it fits.
30 July 2016 - 06:17 PMLotraudi driver is just a super idiot.
there are just situations where there is no way u can win, no matter what, u need to let the other guy go first.
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this example describe it best, merc just see show, let audi do 1000 point turns also LL have to wait for merc to complete his parking
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that being said, merc head in parallel lot is a noob mistake.
at the end of the day, is 2 kuku drivers creating the joke of the day
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if I am the merc (as if I can afford one), I would take my own sweet time to park at the lot in front instead reversing into the lot initially taken by the audi.
30 July 2016 - 07:37 PM2BDriver
Wanna gate crash LTA, minimum also need a dump truck full of cement HahahahahahahaCreative car body works
��and super clear
��rear wind screen, can advice which car detail workshop ? �
30 July 2016 - 07:40 PMMustankSin ming oneCreative car body works
and super clear
rear wind screen, can advice which car detail workshop ?
Hahahahaha
Coe bites the dustRe : Sin Ming Road Accident
Another video from another car cam
https://web.facebook...207321126486413
And it gets even juicier
Apparently, inside the Saab were 3 mechanics !!!
Workshop how to pay?
30 July 2016 - 07:46 PM2BDriverSin ming one
Hahahahaha
Coe bites the dust
Workshop how to pay?Car washer see the cement
�on the whole car will
��throw away the water pale
��and go to buy acid for the cleaning �
30 July 2016 - 07:55 PMMkl22Does not matter. Add one to the recycled Coe.Sin ming one
Hahahahaha
Coe bites the dust
Workshop how to pay?
30 July 2016 - 07:57 PMMustankNo needCar washer see the cement
on the whole car will
throw away the water pale
and go to buy acid for the cleaning
Just set fire claim insurance
OwnerDoes not matter. Add one to the recycled Coe.
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30 July 2016 - 08:29 PMFcw75Sorry, not being black hearted but I do not hope the driver is ok. This kind of f**ked up and reckless driver, I hope he injured himself. Driving so fast on small roads, it's lucky he didn't injured innocent people.i think so, with chrome wheels and red caliper brakes!
look like the driver takes the slight R hand bend corner too fast (?speeding)
hope driver ok and no one else/pedestrian injured
and yes, cam car was very fortunate to have move off.
Power is nothing without control.
30 July 2016 - 08:53 PMPocyIf the accident was due to the lau lung driving style, I rather the driver got injured (not his life) and learnt his lesson than some innocent victim got hurt/killed in an accident caused by him in future.Sorry, not being black hearted but I do not hope the driver is ok. This kind of f**ked up and reckless driver, I hope he injured himself. Driving so fast on small roads, it's lucky he didn't injured innocent people.
Power is nothing without control.
30 July 2016 - 10:17 PMER-3682Embedded.
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The driver deserved a Jail sentence,God Bless there are no people on the other side of the road,or else when this car crash over the other side of the road,so got people got killed.
30 July 2016 - 10:19 PMflashbang 30 July 2016 - 10:27 PMEviilusionso thats why they lost control of the car! 1 mechanic was adjusting the accelerator pedal, the other adjusting the steering wheel and the 3rd was bleeding the brake line. Too bad they didnt realised the car was moving...Re : Sin Ming Road Accident
Another video from another car cam
https://web.facebook...207321126486413
And it gets even juicier
Apparently, inside the Saab were 3 mechanics !!! 01 August 2016 - 07:46 AMRadXCreative car body works
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��rear wind screen, can advice which car detail workshop ? �
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this fella will buy the car..suits him
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01 August 2016 - 08:37 AMWatwheelsFor the Changi Coast Road accident I think the NS boy and friends had finish an excercise and were on their way home. During my NS time we were told not to ride or drive to camp becoz they were instances where NSF lost their life due to fatigue. Driver could have doze off while the rest of the NS boys are already fast asleep. No one to keep the driver awake.
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I do not support the "haunted" theory coz we know there are a lot of logistics and contruction vehicles using that stretch of road. Why the accidents are always passenger cars? Why not tipper trucks, lorries, vans or pickups? Why are they immune to the "haunted" stretch of road?
01 August 2016 - 08:43 AMMustankLorry people are pros, make a living out of lorryingFor the Changi Coast Road accident I think the NS boy and friends had finish an excercise and were on their way home. During my NS time we were told not to ride or drive to camp becoz they were instances where NSF lost their life due to fatigue. Driver could have doze off while the rest of the NS boys are already fast asleep. No one to keep the driver awake.
I do not support the "haunted" theory coz we know there are a lot of logistics and contruction vehicles using that stretch of road. Why the accidents are always passenger cars? Why not tipper trucks, lorries, vans or pickups? Why are they immune to the "haunted" stretch of road?
Class 4 class 5
No joke
Ghost don't touch no professional chaps
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01 August 2016 - 08:47 AMWatwheelsLorry people are pros, make a living out of lorrying
Class 4 class 5
No joke
Ghost don't touch no professional chaps
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Lorry ppl are aliens lah.
01 August 2016 - 08:51 AMMustankNo, they just have a very high resistance to all these ghostingLorry ppl are aliens lah.
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01 August 2016 - 09:03 AMVratenzaHear 1st person account of private clerk driving Ferrari/maserrati to base... reason being that is the only available car in the family for him to drive.
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Even the Generals and rear admirals drive B&B cars....i guess it is for modesty sake.
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ASK....drive car during NS time. very satki.
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01 August 2016 - 10:08 AMMustankGirls the sameHear 1st person account of private clerk driving Ferrari/maserrati to base... reason being that is the only available car in the family for him to drive.
Even the Generals and rear admirals drive B&B cars....i guess it is for modesty sake.
Got things one, don't wanna show
No thing one, wanna show
01 August 2016 - 10:14 AMKb27�
Years ago, when I send my new car for servicing, I caught the mechanics having a good time in my car.
The radio was switched to chinese station (I don't listen to chinese prog), the aircon was full blast and they were enjoying their time there.
01 August 2016 - 11:15 AMPocyI also got this kind of experience where technician turned on my aircon full blast at Tan Chong. Share your workshop so ppl here know and watch out.Years ago, when I send my new car for servicing, I caught the mechanics having a good time in my car.
The radio was switched to chinese station (I don't listen to chinese prog), the aircon was full blast and they were enjoying their time there.
01 August 2016 - 11:17 AMDavidtchNothing wrong with ASK. If I am rich, I would also buy a car for my son to drive to camp.
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If i am rich, i will hire 1 maid & 1 driver outside of the camp waiting for my son.
01 August 2016 - 11:40 AMPocyMother (maid) and father (driver) already waiting outside the camp. Haha ..........If i am rich, i will hire 1 maid & 1 driver outside of the camp waiting for my son.
01 August 2016 - 11:57 AMJellandrossI'm pretty numb to various driver antics on the road but I can't stand red-light beaters. Nowadays, whether you're driver or pedestrian, don't proceed blindly just because the light turns green.
Please drive safe people!
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01 August 2016 - 12:13 PMDavidtchMother (maid) and father (driver) already waiting outside the camp. Haha ..........
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That's the peasant version.
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Which elite mother and father wait outside camp?
01 August 2016 - 12:34 PM2BDriverIf i am rich, i will hire 1 maid & 1 driver outside of the camp waiting for my son.
Rich ?
You must have high taste and extra ordinary standard, despatch these to camp fetching your son
�and he'll be well known
��in Singapore with the help of �
�Stomp and Social Media spiralling effects �
01 August 2016 - 12:38 PMDavidtchRich ?
You must have high taste and extra ordinary standard, despatch these to camp fetching your son
�and he'll be well known
��in Singapore with the help of �
�Stomp and Social Media spiralling effects �
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Can used on the road meh?
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01 August 2016 - 12:40 PMCivic6228That's the peasant version.
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Which elite mother and father wait outside camp?
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Have lah .... you never watch Ah Boy to Man ?
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Lim Peh and Irene Ang always fetch Chow Ken to/from camp in their Ma C Dee.
01 August 2016 - 12:41 PM2BDriverI'm pretty numb to various driver antics on the road but I can't stand red-light beaters. Nowadays, whether you're driver or pedestrian, don't proceed blindly just because the light turns green.
Please drive safe people!
Ah Neh standing at traffic light so cool watching the speeding truck passing in green man favour and stepping out onto the road like nothing "unusual" �
Very brave indeed �
01 August 2016 - 12:41 PMDavidtchHave lah .... you never watch Ah Boy to Man ?
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Lim Peh and Irene Ang always fetch Chow Ken to/from camp in their Ma C Dee.
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Ma C Dee is for peasants lah
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Elite use My Bach.
01 August 2016 - 12:43 PMCivic6228Ma C Dee is for peasants lah
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Elite use My Bach.
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Ma C Dee S class is very elite for me liao.
01 August 2016 - 12:43 PM2BDriverCan used on the road meh?
Request OTP aka One Time Permit from your MP
��in tonight 8pm. MPS ��
Edited by 2BDriver, 01 August 2016 - 12:44 PM.
01 August 2016 - 12:46 PMDavidtchMa C Dee S class is very elite for me liao.
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Ma C Dee S class in Sg is as common as Corolla.� Where got elite?
Request OTP aka One Time Permit from your MP
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Thanks for enlightening me.
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I nvr know PAP MP so powderful.
01 August 2016 - 12:48 PMJoseph22He say request... Didn't say will approve... Send to wrong party by the time approve Son pop liaoMa C Dee S class in Sg is as common as Corolla. Where got elite?
Thanks for enlightening me.
I nvr know PAP MP so powderful.
01 August 2016 - 12:50 PM2BDriver 01 August 2016 - 12:57 PM2BDriverHe say request... Didn't say will approve... Send to wrong party by the time approve Son pop liao
My MP always helps us to write letter
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01 August 2016 - 01:06 PMMustankThis one leh? HeheheRich ?
You must have high taste and extra ordinary standard, despatch these to camp fetching your sonand he'll be well known
in Singapore with the help of
Stomp and Social Media spiralling effects
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01 August 2016 - 01:08 PM2BDriverThis one leh? Hehehe
Ah David look them
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01 August 2016 - 01:11 PMAdrianliCan used on the road meh?
There used to be horse carriage ride in Sentosa. I patok with my ex gf and we rode in it ard Sentosa.
01 August 2016 - 01:15 PM2BDriverThere used to be horse carriage ride in Sentosa. I patok with my ex gf and we rode in it ard Sentosa.
Excuse
��me Mr.Li, I got confused �
May I
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01 August 2016 - 01:26 PMMustankThis one lehAh David look them
no up lah
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01 August 2016 - 01:31 PM2BDriver 01 August 2016 - 01:39 PMJoseph22Actually I found out that if got lawyer mp, the letter more powerful... Less powerful then minister but more powerful then most mp...My MP always helps us to write letter
and say
"Please wait for their reply"
Unless u Heng Heng.. Get a legal train "volunteer" letter writer to serve u while u go meet the MP session. 01 August 2016 - 02:21 PM2BDriverABD: Mr LTY, does it mean next time I can ask the AD to state in the repair bill that my steering wheel cannot control properly if I accidentally did a illegal U turn sir?
LTY: As long as your car have no hairline crack, why not.
Honestly, LTY found to be friendly and helpful, I voted for him in last GE but couldn't save him remain in power�
I meant "Tickle Ah Huat"
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�is being a small matter but spent 3 MPS to resolve "Fine $150 with 4 demerit points" traffic offence, I suppose he should have asked me for repair evidence to proof my "Unintentional" fail to signal in turning into major road in the very first meeting, wonder what reason or excuses he made on my behalf in the first letter that he had wrote to TP ��
Edited by 2BDriver, 01 August 2016 - 02:23 PM.
01 August 2016 - 02:31 PMSp4wnHonestly, LTY found to be friendly and helpful, I voted for him in last GE but couldn't save him remain in power�
I meant "Tickle Ah Huat"
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�is being a small matter but spent 3 MPS to resolve "Fine $150 with 4 demerit points" traffic offence, I suppose he should have asked me for repair evidence to proof my "Unintentional" fail to signal in turning into major road in the very first meeting, wonder what reason or excuses he made on my behalf in the first letter that he had wrote to TP ��
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"this person keeps coming to see me. can you just waive it off so he can leave me alone? otherwise, every time he see me, i'm going to come see you ..."
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(added "..." for dramatic pause and effect)
01 August 2016 - 02:32 PMDavidtch 01 August 2016 - 02:35 PMJoseph22Likely just write a letter that state car signal got problem and hence not able to signal... Then LtA protocol come in asking for paper work... But his reply if it's word for word really professional...Honestly, LTY found to be friendly and helpful, I voted for him in last GE but couldn't save him remain in power
I meant "Tickle Ah Huat"![]()
is being a small matter but spent 3 MPS to resolve "Fine $150 with 4 demerit points" traffic offence, I suppose he should have asked me for repair evidence to proof my "Unintentional" fail to signal in turning into major road in the very first meeting, wonder what reason or excuses he made on my behalf in the first letter that he had wrote to TP
Anyway... No problem is a small problem... Everyone hell is different. Just don't call for people to meet up to catch rat but on that destinated timing off phone and go missing can Liao.
Edited by Joseph22, 01 August 2016 - 02:36 PM.
01 August 2016 - 02:38 PM2BDriver"this person keeps coming to see me. can you just waive it off so he can leave me alone? otherwise, every time he see me, i'm going to come see you ..."
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(added "..." for dramatic pause and effect)
I assumed, he wrote at below �
This resident in my constituency found to be too poor
�to pay $150, can you give face to me
�and close both
�eyes ? �
01 August 2016 - 03:04 PMOthelloHuat, tickle you with my previous experience from one of my monday 8pm. MPS. �
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My MP was LTY and he'd seen me thrice to cancel one TP summon of "Fail to Signal Turning" into TPY Lor 6.
LTY: Mr.F..., you had committed a traffic offence ! You know ?...........................
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wah, this offence everyday can see hundreds of times ..... you are very lucky !!!�
01 August 2016 - 03:19 PM2BDriverwah, this offence everyday can see hundreds of times ..... you are very lucky !!!�
YarLor, speeding
�SAAB at Sin ming Road and hell driving Heavy Truck along East Coast Service Road never catch, chased me 2 km for "failed to signal in turning" in TPY Lor 6 �
That's why I must use my wit
�to squeeze out of narrow escape within our bestest of best Monday 8pm. MPS system
��loop hole lor �
Edited by 2BDriver, 01 August 2016 - 03:26 PM.
01 August 2016 - 03:30 PMJoseph22I believe u write yourself and send them invoice together will also can waive one lahYarLor, speeding
SAAB at Sin ming Road and hell driving Heavy Truck along East Coast Service Road never catch, chased me 2 km for "failed to signal in turning" in TPY Lor 6
That's why I must use my witto squeeze out of narrow escape within our bestest of best Monday 8pm. MPS system
loop hole lor
01 August 2016 - 03:33 PM2BDriverI believe u write yourself and send them invoice together will also can waive one lah
Just plainly wanted to maximise the usefulness of their GE slogan "We Care for YOU" �
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01 August 2016 - 03:40 PMBismarckFor the Changi Coast Road accident I think the NS boy and friends had finish an excercise and were on their way home. During my NS time we were told not to ride or drive to camp becoz they were instances where NSF lost their life due to fatigue. Driver could have doze off while the rest of the NS boys are already fast asleep. No one to keep the driver awake.
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I do not support the "haunted" theory coz we know there are a lot of logistics and contruction vehicles using that stretch of road. Why the accidents are always passenger cars? Why not tipper trucks, lorries, vans or pickups? Why are they immune to the "haunted" stretch of road?
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Not just driving to camp, I ever had 2 instances as a vehicle commander where my drivers almost fall asleep while driving. One was driving a 3 tonner and I had to shake his shoulder to keep him awake. The other time was in despatch car where I had to hold on to the steering when last minute I noticed the driver falling asleep and the vehicle was not keeping in lane. This one more dangerous coz we were on expressway.�
01 August 2016 - 03:41 PMDavidtchYarLor, speeding
�SAAB at Sin ming Road and hell driving Heavy Truck along East Coast Service Road never catch, chased me 2 km for "failed to signal in turning" in TPY Lor 6 �
That's why I must use my wit
�to squeeze out of narrow escape within our bestest of best Monday 8pm. MPS system
��loop hole lor �
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Next time, write a complaint letter on your summon.� You might also get waiver.� Civil servant scares complain letter.
01 August 2016 - 03:42 PM2BDriver"this
personidiot keeps coming to disturbing me in every monday MPS. can you just waive it off so he and me can move on ? otherwise, every time he see me in MPS, i'm going to miss National issues such as MRT breaksdown..."�
(added "..." for dramatic pause and effect)
What a beautiful Monday �
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01 August 2016 - 03:43 PMPocyMy personal experience, attached hospital invoice to show but was rejected by TP with a standard reply. MP just one letter, next my traffic light offence put on record, 12 demerit points waived, fine also waived. Very Heng!! Really depends who signed off the letter.I believe u write yourself and send them invoice together will also can waive one lah
01 August 2016 - 03:46 PMJoseph22You speeding because need to rush to hospital huh???My personal experience, attached hospital invoice to show but was rejected by TP with a standard reply. MP just one letter, next my traffic light offence put on record, 12 demerit points waived, fine also waived. Very Heng!! Really depends who signed off the letter.
His case is more straight forward.
01 August 2016 - 03:47 PM2BDriverNext time, write a complaint letter on your summon.� You might also get waiver.� Civil servant scares complain letter.
David, in Singapore....we must know how to "play dead", kindly recall those "High profile" insane who got into deep shit for nothing, my Monday evening MPS is a tactical movement learned from SAF to act dead and let enemies pass then shoot into their back side �
01 August 2016 - 03:50 PMDavidtchDavid, in Singapore....we must know how to "play dead", kindly recall those "High profile" insane who got into deep shit for nothing, my Monday evening MPS is a tactical movement learned from SAF to act dead and let enemies pass then shoot into their back side �
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How much you spend?
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I rather take those time to piak piak
01 August 2016 - 03:54 PM2BDriverHow much you spend?
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I rather take those time to piak piak
The sensation from MP saying "Congratulation"
�Bravo ! My didi stands like hard rock to plays the wet valley �
01 August 2016 - 07:01 PMNzywah, this offence everyday can see hundreds of times ..... you are very lucky !!!�
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See your luck one lo. I have been warned by TP for not stopping at stop line also. I slowed down but main road totally no cars so I just drove out. Just nice one TP rode out from bus bay and caught up with me to give me a warning.
Edited by Nzy, 01 August 2016 - 07:02 PM.
01 August 2016 - 08:07 PMlausai88 01 August 2016 - 08:12 PMflashbang 01 August 2016 - 08:20 PMBlueraychio bu bm driver
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Stuttgart vs Munich
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01 August 2016 - 08:24 PMlausai88You sure is not auntie bus driver?
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confirm bm driver, saw it with my lausai eyes :)
waist and legs a bit thick lei ...�
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aiyoh, forget to bring measuring tape to measure :)
01 August 2016 - 08:26 PMBlueray�
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01 August 2016 - 08:27 PMDavidtchNo face no talk
01 August 2016 - 08:27 PMApple-TreeMan in long sleeves these days are most likely pte hire vehicle driver than banker, lawyer lor.
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Woman pte hire captain too, dress in this manner lor.
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Men in this type of long sleeves on Sunday, imply Property Agents.
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01 August 2016 - 08:31 PMTurboflat4Lol... Didn't know LTY so humorous
01 August 2016 - 09:31 PMEviilusionhahaha......this one i repect..Saya kahwin sama dia lor, simpang dia di JB Skudai rumah untuk spare alat alat
02 August 2016 - 07:16 AMKennethokayou all should focus on accident not the not so chio bu...
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sotong driver.. don't know kena accident
actually nothing happen leh. the car only almost bump together but hasn't bumped yet. I think the red car know about that, he/she did slow down but eventually move off as nothing happen.
02 August 2016 - 07:44 AMBismarckNormal circumstances when I see someone started to come from 3rd to 1st lane my defensive mode will be in full alert, meaning I release my accelerator, not about having no intention to let him cut in.Was driving 1st lane last weekend on SLE near Lentor Exit, then this white honda civic cut from 3rd lane to my lane even though I was going a high speed and had no intention of letting him cut. Somemore the gap between my car and the car in front was just 2 car space.
He sensed that i was accelerating to prevent him from cutting, and he accelerated even faster
Perhaps sensing that he was in the wrong, he tried to get away from my car and accelerated damn fast towards the car in front before braking hard.
As my family was in the car, i just let it go.
Have you encountered such rude and senseless drivers?
If I don't increase my defensive mode, and continue my speed, who knows something might happen, either me or him or together
When one is driving at lane 1, one must close the gap. I think he is doing that, not because he sense he is in a wrong and want to get away from your car.
You did the right thing. But even if your family is not inside, you can also let it go. Coz it is really nothing.
Frankly speaking 2 car space can also cut in. But must be good at it in terms of safety and timing so that it minimize the interruption to the flow of traffic. When I am in a rush I do a lot of overtaking and cornering so I don't see why the civic can't do that.
But what I want to know is, did the civic signal when going from 3rd to 1st![]()
02 August 2016 - 08:56 AMVratenzayou "easy meat" mah....or some will say "low hanging fruit"
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YarLor, speeding
�SAAB at Sin ming Road and hell driving Heavy Truck along East Coast Service Road never catch, chased me 2 km for "failed to signal in turning" in TPY Lor 6 �
That's why I must use my wit
�to squeeze out of narrow escape within our bestest of best Monday 8pm. MPS system
��loop hole lor �
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02 August 2016 - 08:58 AMVratenzaI think what MPs are most scared of at MPS are those retirees/semi-retirees with time to prove their point!
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02 August 2016 - 09:41 AMHamburgerWas driving 1st lane last weekend on SLE near Lentor Exit, then this white honda civic cut from 3rd lane to my lane even though I was going a high speed and had no intention of letting him cut. Somemore the gap between my car and the car in front was just 2 car space.�
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Perhaps sensing that he was in the wrong,�he tried to get away from my car and accelerated damn fast towards the car in front before braking hard.�
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02 August 2016 - 10:16 AMDavidtchWas driving 1st lane last weekend on SLE near Lentor Exit, then this white honda civic cut from 3rd lane to my lane even though I was going a high speed and had no intention of letting him cut. Somemore the gap between my car and the car in front was just 2 car space.�
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He sensed that i was accelerating to prevent him from cutting, and he accelerated even faster�
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02 August 2016 - 10:22 AMStefanKWas driving 1st lane last weekend on SLE near Lentor Exit, then this white honda civic cut from 3rd lane to my lane even though I was going a high speed and had no intention of letting him cut. Somemore the gap between my car and the car in front was just 2 car space.�
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I close THAT gap between this car and the other car in front, to me that's driving to traffic conditions. If my back is close to your front, I am cutting you. If my front is close to the back of the car in front, I am giving you time to react so you don't bloody rear end me.
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Because you boh bian LL "suay suay" let a White Civic jip-ed your 'Conti' (assumption), you buay song?�
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02 August 2016 - 10:23 AMMason016Road hogger should get off all lanes.� �
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Refined the statement for you.
02 August 2016 - 10:27 AMJoseph22Two car length on lane 1 isn't a small GAP.
02 August 2016 - 10:28 AMKtglfcWas driving 1st lane last weekend on SLE near Lentor Exit, then this white honda civic cut from 3rd lane to my lane even though I was going a high speed and had no intention of letting him cut. Somemore the gap between my car and the car in front was just 2 car space.�
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He sensed that i was accelerating to prevent him from cutting, and he accelerated even faster�
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Perhaps sensing that he was in the wrong,�he tried to get away from my car and accelerated damn fast towards the car in front before braking hard.�
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As my family was in the car, i just let it go.�
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Have you encountered such rude and senseless drivers?�
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Based on your 1st para, you have 2 cars length in-between, and seeing that someone want to come in-between, you speed up as you have no intention of letting him in ...
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Why? Sometimes, just let go a bit, won't delay your journey by more than�a few�mins, right?
Let go, and drive with less stressful and enjoy your rest of the journey, isn't this better? :)
02 August 2016 - 10:43 AM2BDriverI think what MPs are most scared of at MPS are those retirees/semi-retirees with time to prove their point!
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It was damn funny events that I will never forget in my entire lifetime but too bad video recording wasn't allowed at his Towner Road RC office, if not....I'll show you LTY facial and candid reactions.
He stood up from his chair in "setiya" position raised his right hand to shake my hand, male RC assistant sitting beside him follows his stand-up and sit down motions.
While both of us exchanging in conversations, his assistant keep notes and moving his head forward to backward like the Jew's praying.
My 3 times MPS meeting with LTY is just like NSF days meeting my camp OC except without stamping foot and salute.
02 August 2016 - 10:55 AMJoseph22Now we know how the keep fit.It was damn funny events that I will never forget in my entire lifetime but too bad video recording wasn't allowed at his Towner Road RC office, if not....I'll show you LTY facial and candid reactions.
He stood up from his chair in "setiya" position raised his right hand to shake my hand, male RC assistant sitting beside him follows his stand-up and sit down motions.
While both of us exchanging in conversations, his assistant keep notes and moving his head forward to backward like the Jew's praying.
My 3 times MPS meeting with LTY is just like NSF days meeting my camp OC except without stamping foot and salute. 02 August 2016 - 03:32 PMVidRead up some of the recent posts. Some people are not fit to drive.
02 August 2016 - 03:35 PMEnye99% of the time
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ownself pwn ownself when posting own videos
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02 August 2016 - 03:38 PMOthelloCame in to post a video... i am utterly pissed at this driver. Similar case like yours,�Wanted to filter to the middle lane but saw this White Volkswagen SJV8755T filtering from the right most lane so i filter back to my lane. Who knows he drove next to me to try and cut into my lane even though there is less than half a car length of gap for him to do so.. Normally i don't post video but this guy really last warning. Am i at fault? yes, maybe. You guys be the judge ba...
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P.S: no. i am not gung ho. neither was my ego affected also. I am simply just utterly pissed that this driver can ignore others safety and simply do what he wants to.
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I think maybe the driver was pissed when you tried to filter, hence must die die cut you. This type of driver just have to ignore and hope one day he meet Mr Dump Truck lor.�
02 August 2016 - 03:41 PMturtlebrothSome of you here just like to see other's demise and boo them upside down even though people have already admitted partly at fault also. Anyway, thank you for your time.99% of the time
ownself pwn ownself when posting own videos
02 August 2016 - 03:49 PMDschengYou're at fault
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Be so rude and inconsiderate for what?� You didn't notice the roadworks in front - which was the reason for him needing to filter?
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Be trying to block, you're just slowing down all traffic, and making life more dangerous for all of us.� The road is a shared space, there was no need to insist on stopping him from merging - if you had taken no action at all, he could have merged safely...
I dont think the cam car is rude. You crazy or what? That white Volk cut in so abruptly. If i am the cam car, i also dont let him pass.
He know in front is roadwork then he must slow down and follow behind ma.�
Edited by Dscheng, 02 August 2016 - 03:51 PM.
02 August 2016 - 03:54 PMFireball0088u asked ppl to be the judge.. then tell people you dont want to start a war of words when others ask you why so inconsiderate...�
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to me.. at the 17~20secs mark.. he already in your lane liao.. you encroach into the bus bay on your left to try and cut him out one last time.. .�
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you slow down 1~2 secs.. everyone can go smoothly.. case close... � �kpkb abit in the car... �then let it go ....... you dont need to waste your time uploading the video...�
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life goes on...�
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he is not happy with someone cutting into his lane but doesn't want to block people properly... there were a few opportunities to "cut" him back... bus bay was one of them...
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i just realised that he said he is not a gung ho person then all the more should just let it go...
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in the end, LL still lost. So better to just let it go and don't post here. It just make you more angry...
02 August 2016 - 03:55 PMDarrynI dont think the cam car is rude. You crazy or what? That white Volk cut in so abruptly. If i am the cam car, i also dont let him pass.
He know in front is roadwork then he must slow down and follow behind ma.�
Except he didn't cut in abruptly - there was tonnes of space - and it was obvious he was merging.�
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the cam car didn't want to give up "his" road...
All he need is lift off gas for a second or two and everything merge...instead try to use bus bay to block the white car...why?� prove what?
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When got one lane blocked like this, you "block" the lane, just ends up delaying everyone.� Why?� So you can feel better about yourself that you "won" the road?
02 August 2016 - 03:56 PMturtlebrothu asked ppl to be the judge.. then tell people you dont want to start a war of words when others ask you why so inconsiderate...�
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to me.. at the 17~20secs mark.. he already in your lane liao.. you encroach into the bus bay on your left to try and cut him out one last time.. .�
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you slow down 1~2 secs.. everyone can go smoothly.. case close... � �kpkb abit in the car... �then let it go ....... you dont need to waste your time uploading the video...�
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life goes on...�
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sigh.. post a video nia.. become my fault his fault. I inconsiderate i 70% blame whatsoever. Ok lah.. i take the bitter pill and swallow. Anyway being the video uploader, may i request all to just discuss on this matter amicably and don't get so work up. pls....�
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If i don't waste time uploading video, then what is this thread for? Anyway, please ALL don't get so work up.
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02 August 2016 - 03:56 PMFireball0088Looks like the driver either had to avoid cam car or cam from lane 1.
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When he started trying to filter there was more than 2 car lengths (the full width of the side road and then some)...
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Cam car either oblivious or deliberately trying to block .� Then tries to claim 1/2 car length?� No there wasn't - when white SUV starts to filter there was plenty of space, but cam car took attitude of "my road" - never giving any sort of allowance for roadworks in front.� Which he didn't even notice until he cut out in an effort to overtake the white car again.
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If apportioning blame, I would put 70% on cam car and 30% on white SUV
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It's obvious here that the white car is trying to merge...no enough space? 1/2 car length?�
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I think it's a 50/50. It was a quick filtering all the way from the Lane 1
02 August 2016 - 04:03 PMFireball0088Except he didn't cut in abruptly - there was tonnes of space - and it was obvious he was merging.�
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the cam car didn't want to give up "his" road...
All he need is lift off gas for a second or two and everything merge...instead try to use bus bay to block the white car...why?� prove what?
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When got one lane blocked like this, you "block" the lane, just ends up delaying everyone.� Why?� So you can feel better about yourself that you "won" the road?
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You watch properly... the white car was really rude. He was forcing his way in. At the beginning, the cam car already wanted to filter to the middle lane but moved back because the white car was also filtering. In this sense, the cam car already "let" the white car in. Then the white car went on to force himself into the left lane because:
1. He can clearly see the road works ahead
2. He needed to turn left after the road works
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The cam car was just angry and reacting that way...
02 August 2016 - 04:06 PMFireball0088If you really need to go middle lane, just let VW filter in front of you and you filter to middle lane behind him at the same time. �Leverage on each other's manoeuvre, both achieve objective and win-win situation. �
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This manoeuvre is very effective when there are two cars needing to filter into each other's lane at the same time. �Once both parties see each other's signal, experience will determine who takes the front or back and just switch lanes like a dance. �I'm sure many experienced drivers do this on a daily basis with no fuss.
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There are many ways to achieve your objective and sometimes being in front may not be the best way. �This is true on the road as well as in life.
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Seriously, if i am going straight for a long while, i would have filtered to the right and zoom far far away already.... but that's just me�
02 August 2016 - 04:06 PMDschengYou watch properly... the white car was really rude. He was forcing his way in. At the beginning, the cam car already wanted to filter to the middle lane but moved back because the white car was also filtering. In this sense, the cam car already "let" the white car in. Then the white car went on to force himself into the left lane because:
1. He can clearly see the road works ahead
2. He needed to turn left after the road works
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The cam car was just angry and reacting that way...
Totally agree with Fireball0088 lo. Big F Volkswagen thinking he is big shot die die want to cut in. Big ego.
02 August 2016 - 04:09 PMEnyevideo poster said he is gone liao
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can stop the discussion already
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02 August 2016 - 04:09 PMDarrynThe cam car was just angry....You watch properly... the white car was really rude. He was forcing his way in. At the beginning, the cam car already wanted to filter to the middle lane but moved back because the white car was also filtering. In this sense, the cam car already "let" the white car in. Then the white car went on to force himself into the left lane because:
1. He can clearly see the road works ahead
2. He needed to turn left after the road works
The cam car was just angry and reacting that way...
I think this sums up what happened perfectly.
To put another spin on it...
From the point where white car tried to merge to left lane....who had to take a "bigger action" to make it work?
Who would have been more "inconvenienced" in giving way to the other?
02 August 2016 - 04:11 PMOthelloSeriously, if i am going straight for a long while, i would have filtered to the right and zoom far far away already.... but that's just me�
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cannot, cos that is a turning lane�
I know this road very well, use it every other day
02 August 2016 - 04:13 PMSuPerBoRedYou watch properly... the white car was really rude. He was forcing his way in. At the beginning, the cam car already wanted to filter to the middle lane but moved back because the white car was also filtering. In this sense, the cam car already "let" the white car in. Then the white car went on to force himself into the left lane because:
1. He can clearly see the road works ahead
2. He needed to turn left after the road works
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The cam car was just angry and reacting that way...
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all these can be non issue... if car cam juz ease up 1~2 secs.... �
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sometimes.. bigger man... �easier..�
02 August 2016 - 04:13 PMNzyYou watch properly... the white car was really rude. He was forcing his way in. At the beginning, the cam car already wanted to filter to the middle lane but moved back because the white car was also filtering. In this sense, the cam car already "let" the white car in. Then the white car went on to force himself into the left lane because:
1. He can clearly see the road works ahead
2. He needed to turn left after the road works
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The cam car was just angry and reacting that way...
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IMO, the white car was behaving normally till the cam car decided to block him off. There was more than enough space for the white car to filter in without slowing down the cam car but cam car decided to speed up so that there will be less than 1/2 car gap. White car also got angry when cam car block him so start to play also...
Edited by Nzy, 02 August 2016 - 04:14 PM.
02 August 2016 - 04:23 PMAudi2016Realised many drivers not gracious enough to give way lol.
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Then claim not ego problem.. but ming ming jiu shi.
02 August 2016 - 04:29 PMDarrynWhat's the difference between a blond and a computer?
You only have to punch the information into a computer once.
What's the rulebook say on getting out of a hole?
Chapter 1....stop digging.
02 August 2016 - 04:35 PMDarrynP.s. ...I like turtle soup...
Is good for your health and re all tasty
02 August 2016 - 04:36 PMFireball0088The cam car was just angry....
I think this sums up what happened perfectly.
To put another spin on it...
From the point where white car tried to merge to left lane....who had to take a "bigger action" to make it work?
Who would have been more "inconvenienced" in giving way to the other?�
The big white SUV knows he is going to turn left. So next time, filter much earlier. It would be a much happier for everyone
02 August 2016 - 04:37 PMFireball0088cannot, cos that is a turning lane�
I know this road very well, use it every other day
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Oh is it....
02 August 2016 - 04:41 PMOthelloactually I don't want to reply one. But since you ask if you are at fault, then yes you are. He signal to come to lane 2, you not fast enough you let him in. Since you�can't get in, you sibei tulan. See him wanna come into lane 3, you jit tao lut but your don't know what car, cannot out accelerate a Turbo DSG VW. Then kan pua tulan this time round, zip here and there. Actually, match up to his side so what? He hiu lan you totally. Like that ownself ego bruised. People wanna cut let them cut lor. Cut lose to people then buy more powerful car next time. No point come here post video say how lousy the other party is when you ownself neh si chiong to cut him off.
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I'm in this situation many times. I went into other's lane and move on. Drive like normal but the driver behind both hands gesturing "simi lan bird", trying to zip around heavy traffic to catch up to my side. Finally, he did. I'm happy for him cause he finally caught up. When I saw him, I shake my head and accelerate and off I go. he is way behind and still cursing and swearing.
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Moral of the story? That driver don't give a shit about you when you chase him, he lagi won't care about you even you post a video of him cutting into his lane.
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you da man lah !!!�
02 August 2016 - 04:41 PMFireball0088all these can be non issue... if car cam juz ease up 1~2 secs.... �
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maybe the white car should ease up and go behind the cam car...�
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signal does not mean the cam car has to let him in... and it was clear that the cam car was not letting him in, so the white car should just ease up and go behind...�
02 August 2016 - 04:46 PMNzymaybe the white car should ease up and go behind the cam car...�
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signal does not mean the cam car has to let him in... and it was clear that the cam car was not letting him in, so the white car should just ease up and go behind...�
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That why most of us also say white car not totally at fault la. But also not totally his fault. It is his reaction after the cam car decide to block him off that makes him partly wrong also. Both drivers ego very big. Cam car cannot let the white car in, white car cannot accept that cam car want to block him off.
02 August 2016 - 04:52 PMXers007Both cam car driver and VW driver not gracious lah... one dont want to give way one die die want to cut in.. since no bang bang no need to determine who is at fault...
02 August 2016 - 04:56 PMDarrynThat's the thing..That why most of us also say white car not totally at fault la. But also not totally his fault. It is his reaction after the cam car decide to block him off that makes him partly wrong also. Both drivers ego very big. Cam car cannot let the white car in, white car cannot accept that cam car want to block him off.
Cam car, by own admission want to block, want to inconvenience.
At worst white car caught out by road works and not signal long enough.
The blocked lane caused an unusual situation. The teeniest bit of accommodation from cam car is all that's needed.
And he could even feel good about being nice instead of feel angry about being blocked
02 August 2016 - 05:01 PMIcarusTook another look at the video... seems like cam car high beamed the white car too... can see the bright headlights in the reflection of the cars after the cut in.�
02 August 2016 - 05:05 PMVolvobrickThere was road works right in the middle lane - white car saw it and wanted to filter left.
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Cam car (like most Sg drivers) instinctively accelerate to close the gap, then lost out, moved to centre lane (to overtake white car of course) but kena blocked by the road works.� LLST move left again.
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No one angel here.� Both can leave their cars at home, make the road emptier for us.
02 August 2016 - 05:42 PMRadXOk folks
Let's cut the turtle some slack
He msg me and is really apologetic and he knows he was I wrong
Let's not assassinate la... Turtles are in extinct list haaaa
Thks all
02 August 2016 - 05:56 PMJman888actually if turtle is the cam car, he doesnt have to spell out when he post the video if he wants to see the respond from the forum, and probably learn something from it.Ok folks
Let's cut the turtle some slack
He msg me and is really apologetic and he knows he was I wrong
Let's not assassinate la... Turtles are in extinct list haaaa
Thks all
if he wants to declare then be prepared to face different opinions. Same goes to the site he uploded either bey chia lor or other reckless driver site.
02 August 2016 - 06:04 PMmersayleeHave seen enough posts on road encounters... I'd summed up most as pettiness.
Man should live like a man with big heart. Leave the petty part in this world to the...ahem...
flame suit is on.
02 August 2016 - 06:11 PMAtrecordNot just driving to camp, I ever had 2 instances as a vehicle commander where my drivers almost fall asleep while driving. One was driving a 3 tonner and I had to shake his shoulder to keep him awake. The other time was in despatch car where I had to hold on to the steering when last minute I noticed the driver falling asleep and the vehicle was not keeping in lane. This one more dangerous coz we were on expressway.�
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I also had related experience but i was the driver in NS instead.
Normally i was vehicle commander in our M113. In the middle of one exercise in Wallaby, for some reason my driver was not feeling well, and so only me and my sec 2i/c had to decide betw us who to drive (as the rest of the section troopers don't have license).
And cos he wasn't so confident, asked me to drive.
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(btw, i should mention that the we the NCOs had driving license, but it was for training purpose only, which is unlike the vocational drivers whose license was a full license and could also drive during convoy on main roads, etc.)
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Anyway, since we didn't wanna get stuck in the wilderness and didn't want to wait for replacement driver, i took over. And it was after some mission (when i led the section went flanking), so it was damned tiring. And unlike SGP where m113 moved 5 min in Area D will reach destination, Wallaby travelling time is easily 5-10 times longer as area much bigger.
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So at one point, with all the dust flying at my face after driving for a long distance, it was so tiring that i almost fell asleep. My 2 i/c had to shout loudly through the intercom to 'wake' me up to avoid having to do overturn drill !!!
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Almost 2 decades on and still feel fortunate that nothing disastrous happened....
02 August 2016 - 06:12 PMAudi2016Ok folks
Let's cut the turtle some slack
He msg me and is really apologetic and he knows he was I wrong
Let's not assassinate la... Turtles are in extinct list haaaa
Thks all�
Turtle tio jiak liao. Obliterated. On the road and on the forum.. until you show up�
02 August 2016 - 06:33 PMt0y0taBro i feel you. I am full lic m113 driver. Yes did straight 16 hours drives in wallaby n crescendo (thailand).I also had related experience but i was the driver in NS instead.
Normally i was vehicle commander in our M113. In the middle of one exercise in Wallaby, for some reason my driver was not feeling well, and so only me and my sec 2i/c had to decide betw us who to drive (as the rest of the section troopers don't have license).
And cos he wasn't so confident, asked me to drive.
(btw, i should mention that the we the NCOs had driving license, but it was for training purpose only, which is unlike the vocational drivers whose license was a full license and could also drive during convoy on main roads, etc.)
Anyway, since we didn't wanna get stuck in the wilderness and didn't want to wait for replacement driver, i took over. And it was after some mission (when i led the section went flanking), so it was damned tiring. And unlike SGP where m113 moved 5 min in Area D will reach destination, Wallaby travelling time is easily 5-10 times longer as area much bigger.
So at one point, with all the dust flying at my face after driving for a long distance, it was so tiring that i almost fell asleep. My 2 i/c had to shout loudly through the intercom to 'wake' me up to avoid having to do overturn drill !!!
Almost 2 decades on and still feel fortunate that nothing disastrous happened....
Only 18 yo young man can tahan this type of siong
02 August 2016 - 06:43 PMAtrecordBro i feel you. I am full lic m113 driver. Yes did straight 16 hours drives in wallaby n crescendo (thailand).
Only 18 yo young man can tahan this type of siong�
wah, ha ha ... tks...
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yah lah. in Area D, you all (drivers) always got to coma after driving 5 min, as reached destination and the troops had to go flanking for 2 hr...
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that time i already almost 30, bit buay tahan liao...�
02 August 2016 - 07:20 PMRadXactually if turtle is the cam car, he doesnt have to spell out when he post the video if he wants to see the respond from the forum, and probably learn something from it.
if he wants to declare then be prepared to face different opinions. Same goes to the site he uploded either bey chia lor or other reckless driver site.
True and like we say, agree to disagree
Ok all turtle saving exercise over
Get back to turtle sup haaaaa
Turtle tio jiak liao. Obliterated. On the road and on the forum.. until you show up
7 mth Liao so I let them live haaaa
I'm
The turtleminator lol
Tks bro. Think sometimes we shd be more mindful of our own selves. It's a learning journey
02 August 2016 - 07:24 PMAudi2016True and like we say, agree to disagree
Ok all turtle saving exercise over
Get back to turtle sup haaaaa
7 mth Liao so I let them live haaaa
I'm
The turtleminator lol
Tks bro. Think sometimes we shd be more mindful of our own selves. It's a learning journey�
Actually we all also not saints lah. We make mistakes. Very normal one. Just learn from it.�
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And forums very harsh place lah. The judgement we pass here, tiagong more harsh than Supreme Court.
02 August 2016 - 07:27 PMJellandrossMCFers believe in tough love lah. Don't scold will never learn.actually if turtle is the cam car, he doesnt have to spell out when he post the video if he wants to see the respond from the forum, and probably learn something from it.
if he wants to declare then be prepared to face different opinions. Same goes to the site he uploded either bey chia lor or other reckless driver site.
Same thing I tell my son as I whack his backside LOL
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Edited by Jellandross, 02 August 2016 - 07:29 PM.
02 August 2016 - 07:31 PMRadXSee la mod job not only childcare, eldercare for 2BDriver and BanCoeActually we all also not saints lah. We make mistakes. Very normal one. Just learn from it.
And forums very harsh place lah. The judgement we pass here, tiagong more harsh than Supreme Court.
Now hv wildlife conservation too haaaaaaa a
It's ok bro turtlebroth like all say, we here to learn
Do continue to participate la
02 August 2016 - 07:40 PMEviilusiontry walking for 3 solid days.....sleep (if you can) during day time with little vegetation for shelter. You will swear never to swear again....I also had related experience but i was the driver in NS instead.
Normally i was vehicle commander in our M113. In the middle of one exercise in Wallaby, for some reason my driver was not feeling well, and so only me and my sec 2i/c had to decide betw us who to drive (as the rest of the section troopers don't have license).
And cos he wasn't so confident, asked me to drive.
(btw, i should mention that the we the NCOs had driving license, but it was for training purpose only, which is unlike the vocational drivers whose license was a full license and could also drive during convoy on main roads, etc.)
Anyway, since we didn't wanna get stuck in the wilderness and didn't want to wait for replacement driver, i took over. And it was after some mission (when i led the section went flanking), so it was damned tiring. And unlike SGP where m113 moved 5 min in Area D will reach destination, Wallaby travelling time is easily 5-10 times longer as area much bigger.
So at one point, with all the dust flying at my face after driving for a long distance, it was so tiring that i almost fell asleep. My 2 i/c had to shout loudly through the intercom to 'wake' me up to avoid having to do overturn drill !!!
Almost 2 decades on and still feel fortunate that nothing disastrous happened.... 02 August 2016 - 08:56 PM2BDriverThat's why I very scared of bikes riding near me. Better siam far far.
Ownself cam also hard to proof innocence with bikes. Lucky got 3rd party evidence in this case.
Obviously not the Mercedes fault in braking to avoid colliding van at the front, it's the motorcyclist slip into unbalanced and fall all by his own after passing the Mercedes.
Opens Mercedes driver door to blame the driver for braking that caused his fall and sat down again to show he's hurt is about compensation motive.
The Mercedes driver move his vehicle is a grave mistake in Traffic accident with someone suffered injury.
Edited by 2BDriver, 02 August 2016 - 08:59 PM.
02 August 2016 - 09:00 PMYewhengThis one reasonable what.. You got evidence to show that your car light signal indeed faulty at that time of offence..Huat, tickle you with my previous experience from one of my monday 8pm. MPS.
My MP was LTY and he'd seen me thrice to cancel one TP summon of "Fail to Signal Turning" into TPY Lor 6.
LTY: Mr.F..., you had committed a traffic offence ! You know ?
Me: Mr.LTY, my signal lighting system was broken down and on the same day of the offence, I did repaired in AD WS.
LTY: Okay. I am writing to TP for appeal on your behalf, you await for their reply.
NEXT MPS IN ONE WEEK LATER.
LTY: They had replied but not in your favour, can you prove your car signal lights system was faulty on the day of traffic offence ?
Me: Yes Sir, my AD WS invoice shown the repaired items clearly with date and time.
LTY: That's helpful ! Let me have it duplicate and attach to them for "re-appealing" again, you don't pay the fine first and await for their reply.
NEXT MPS IN THE SECOND WEEK MPS.
LTY: Mr.F..., congratulation ! You've been pardon and excused this time with final warning, no more similar type of traffic offence again ! okay ?
Me: Thank you, sir. I will be warning my AD WS as what you had told me "Final Warning with no similar fault"
LTY: Okay lah....I meant you don't abuse the traffic regulation system, we are just doing our very best to help you.
Me: Yes sir, I hope no more "next time" again.
LTY: Hahahaha............ Bye Bye
Edited by Yewheng, 02 August 2016 - 09:01 PM.
02 August 2016 - 09:09 PM2BDriverThis one reasonable what.. You got evidence to show that your car light signal indeed faulty at that time of offence..
TP isn't interested to accept "Any Faulty" excuses, he said it is my responsibility to make sure car conditions are in good order.
Took his summon and expressed my apology than quickly drive straight to AD WS to check the lighting circuit problems.
02 August 2016 - 09:11 PMDavidtchWhy cannot? You know what is beh chia lor?
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Where is beh Chia lor NOW?
02 August 2016 - 09:18 PM2BDriverWhere is beh Chia lor NOW?
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Four Horses Road Guan Yin Temple �
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02 August 2016 - 09:26 PMMustankToday like ownself Buang ownself day![]()
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02 August 2016 - 09:26 PMDarrynNo worries. I am not offended by any post here. Like I've said multiple times since this afternoon, i admit i got fault. But that volkswagen chap really shouldn't just cut in like that.
Didn't know by uploading a video i make all senior members here started a war on whose right or wrong so i decided to ask you to delete the post. Learnt my lesson, will continue to share if got interesting videos. BUT will never admit i am the cam car liao. Hahaha!Haha
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You make all the old bastiches argue amongst themselves like worse than old men in a barber shop!
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Next tell us you own turtle soup shop and I come eat!
02 August 2016 - 09:37 PMDavidtch? ? ? ? ? ? �
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got horse carriage meh nowadays?
02 August 2016 - 09:56 PMDavidtchTP isn't interested to accept "Any Faulty" excuses, he said it is my responsibility to make sure car conditions are in good order.
Took his summon and expressed my apology than quickly drive straight to AD WS to check the lighting circuit problems.
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If like that, i sure complain 1.
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Dear sirs,
I had checked my car before i drove out of MSCP that morning. �I found my signal light to be faulty. �So, i drove down to AD immediately, On my way, i was stopped by your officer xxx. �I had explained to him that i am on my way to AD now. �Unfortunately, your officer xxx said it is my responsibilty and he issued me a summon immediately.
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02 August 2016 - 10:01 PMBanCoeCannot believe it --Narrow escape from death!!
It happened just outside De La Salle School along Choa Chu Kang St.52
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02 August 2016 - 10:08 PMPocyIdiot taxi! Another offence for failing to stop immediately after hitting the bike. Hope the biker is not serious.another motorcycle accident.... stupid taxi
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02 August 2016 - 10:18 PMPocyBiker ownself banged still wanted to kpkb. Huh .... shouldn't accident vehicle involving injury cannot move until TP arrives and site investigation completed?That's why I very scared of bikes riding near me. Better siam far far.
Ownself cam also hard to proof innocence with bikes. Lucky got 3rd party evidence in this case.
02 August 2016 - 10:24 PM2BDriverCannot believe it --Narrow escape from death!!
It happened just outside De La Salle School along Choa Chu Kang St.52
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Drive until like that
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02 August 2016 - 10:30 PMAtrecordNever tried 3 days consecutive. But before I convert to armor, was combat engineer. Had walked dunno how many km on foot before. Only vegetation was at one point saw sugar cane plantation ne used bayonet to cut some to quench thirst, tactically...try walking for 3 solid days.....sleep (if you can) during day time with little vegetation for shelter. You will swear never to swear again....���
Pai miah...
02 August 2016 - 11:46 PMCount-Bracula? ? ?
got horse carriage meh nowadays?
Singapore zoo horse carriage ride. Go and try, very fun especially when the horseman gets the horse on fast trotting. Klik klock klik klock . . .
Biker ownself banged still wanted to kpkb. Huh .... shouldn't accident vehicle involving injury cannot move until TP arrives and site investigation completed?
Trying to con that driver and make a fast buck?
Where is beh Chia lor NOW?
Every road if you are Hokkien? Heh heh!
03 August 2016 - 08:03 AM2BDriverEmbedded.
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Just a normal straight road. Except for suicide, I can't think of another possibility of crashing a car like this.
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Oh wait.. there's idiocy too.
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There should be some similarity in above and below car crashes with silly mistakes by not holding the steering wheel firmly tight in high speeds.
Road debris, pot hole and winds impacts would cause the steering tie rod to sway the car out of straight line that lead to drifting and spinning out of control.
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03 August 2016 - 08:25 AMVratenzaAlot of the taxi lau their night vision is terok one...add on night time headlamp/streetlight glare, the singular motorcycle headlight might have blended in with the car that was further behind him.
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So the Taxi lau probably thought he can make the turn avoiding the car but did not see the motorcycle that was infront and travelling much faster.
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03 August 2016 - 08:36 AMVratenzasianz....missed the ownself-pawn-ownself block buster of the month here.... cannot even see the veedio liao
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Ok folks
Let's cut the turtle some slack
He msg me and is really apologetic and he knows he was I wrong
Let's not assassinate la... Turtles are in extinct list haaaa
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03 August 2016 - 08:37 AMHamburgerto be on a fair note, it is definitely not intentional but the vision of these "veteran" taxi lao might not be as good as they want them to be. Astigmatism could have hinter their sight.
03 August 2016 - 08:47 AMRadXsianz....missed the ownself-pawn-ownself block buster of the month here.... cannot even see the veedio liao
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Can only read and infer
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forever cum late lo...hahaha
03 August 2016 - 08:49 AMVratenzaAgree with you. We Singaporeans are too used to the system whereby if the government never say can do, means cannot do.
We cannot be depended upon to make our own judgement when negotiating unsignalized junctions.
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So many accidents involving right turns, either with pedestrian, motorcycles or cars going straight. LTA should seriously think of changing to controlled junctions for all vehicles.
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03 August 2016 - 08:54 AMKb27No worries. I am not offended by any post here. Like I've said multiple times since this afternoon, i admit i got fault. But that volkswagen chap really shouldn't just cut in like that.
Didn't know by uploading a video i make all senior members here started a war on whose right or wrong so i decided to ask you to delete the post. Learnt my lesson, will continue to share if got interesting videos. BUT will never admit i am the cam car liao. Hahaha!�
I didn't see the video, but I can guess what happens.
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If there's obstruction on one lane, and the vehicle is going fast, you can bet he'll try to filter in, whether he can make it or not.
For such cases, live and let live. Slow down and let them in, whether you're right or wrong.
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And take it easy. Otherwise, your blood will boil everytime. Not good for health.
03 August 2016 - 08:57 AM2BDriversianz....missed the ownself-pawn-ownself block buster of the month here.... cannot even see the veedio liao
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Bro V, no worries be happy, MCF already infested with many self pawn self buddies, there are plenty of them lurks around.
Sometime, somewhere and somehow, when you are least expected someone will post video and says.....
�Cool ! �I am on candid camera �
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03 August 2016 - 09:28 AMSp4wn
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03 August 2016 - 09:32 AMApple-TreeActually, it is an offense to drive a car with lighting fault lor,� according to highway code and educational video after you pass your layson.
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Driver should PRE CHECK car everytime before driving the vehicle.
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Is crazy,for me I check lighting every 2 week in the morning.
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Anyway, my Carens signal turn lighting will blink very fast if one of the bulb is OC.
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It is very dangerous to you and other road users if your lighting is faulty lor.� Especially with so many keeping car beyond 10 years hor.� I see quite a number of cars with totally FAILED brake light these days.� Imagine the driver drive on the expressway at 110km/h and no brake light.
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This one reasonable what.. You got evidence to show that your car light signal indeed faulty at that time of offence..
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03 August 2016 - 09:45 AMApple-TreeI only think it is time to do a major revision to the Highway Code lor..... cheaper.� For example, for us, when we approached an uncontrolled junction, we only need to give way to the right ?? Left.
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In US, when you approached an uncontrolled junction is first come first to go.� How ?
After a few time being horned, if you reached the junction and see 2 cars, then you can move off after the 2 cars have completed lor. Include full access of right turn, left turn or go straight lor
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Agree with you. We Singaporeans are too used to the system whereby if the government never say can do, means cannot do.
We cannot be depended upon to make our own judgement when negotiating unsignalized junctions.
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03 August 2016 - 09:46 AM2BDriver
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The Citroen missed by 6 inches
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03 August 2016 - 10:13 AMSabretanYes, in no traffic lights junctions, there are stop lines n cars actually stopped behind the line n adopt a first come first go rule. Sadly in sg, I seldom see cars stop behind stop line everywhere, except traffic lights, and quite handful of drivers adopt a who dare wins mentality..... Sigh.I only think it is time to do a major revision to the Highway Code lor..... cheaper. For example, for us, when we approached an uncontrolled junction, we only need to give way to the right ?? Left.
In US, when you approached an uncontrolled junction is first come first to go. How ?
After a few time being horned, if you reached the junction and see 2 cars, then you can move off after the 2 cars have completed lor. Include full access of right turn, left turn or go straight lor
And patience ..... ya .....
03 August 2016 - 10:27 AMJellandross
03 August 2016 - 10:36 AMHamburgertruck cannot hit that citroen!!!!!
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03 August 2016 - 10:49 AMMustankTrue lorry power!!!!!!!!!
saw on reddit just now ... geez ><
Woohooooooo!!!!!
03 August 2016 - 11:31 AMWoeiSongKeh
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Nowadays a lot lorry driver are very reckless.
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Lucky no one was injured.
Seems to be driving quite fast at a school zone, this kind should not drive
03 August 2016 - 11:33 AMWoeiSongKehhttp://www.tnp.sg/ne...banned-20-years
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Seriously WTF sia the sentencing !!!
Already on banned and drive with comsumption of alcohol, this kind should get max penalty.�
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Really speechless how lenient SG traffic laws are and how long it have not be reviewed. Our traffic laws seriously need to change.
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03 August 2016 - 11:34 AMVratenzaThat pacik reaction is so slooooooow that he seem to be aware of how luck he was only after the car flew pass him and crashed.....
on the other hand the young companion seem to have started running pretty early....
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03 August 2016 - 11:41 AMApple-TreeWow, after 14 weeks, can start driving again.� Hey, why should I need a license when everybody can drive without a license.
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Seriously WTF sia the sentencing !!!
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03 August 2016 - 11:50 AMMustankHe is jediThat pacik reaction is so slooooooow that he seem to be aware of how luck he was only after the car flew pass him and crashed.....
on the other hand the young companion seem to have started running pretty early....
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03 August 2016 - 11:58 AMMustankTruck crash compilationNowadays a lot lorry driver are very reckless.
Lucky no one was injured.
Seems to be driving quite fast at a school zone, this kind should not drive
Should play with crazy train song
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03 August 2016 - 12:26 PMPocyKaninabe ... WTF! No disrespect for the Court, I think the judge was reading his favourite novel when passing sentence. No sympathy for the b**tard driver, endangering other lives one after another. The black 'bao kung' in Min of Laws has not initiated more heavier punishment?? Should serve the cane too! AG should appeal against the relatively light sentence!http://www.tnp.sg/ne...banned-20-years
Seriously WTF sia the sentencing !!!
Already on banned and drive with comsumption of alcohol, this kind should get max penalty.
Really speechless how lenient SG traffic laws are and how long it have not be reviewed. Our traffic laws seriously need to change.
03 August 2016 - 08:26 PMlausai88this one not reckless... just an idiot, bully ....�
03 August 2016 - 08:34 PMMustankNothing will happen just like Adrain casethis one not reckless... just an idiot, bully ....












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