Tipper trucks......i dont expect anything else from them. They drive as if they own the road expecting everyone else to give way. No signal, sudden change and speeding faster than a normal car....thats why they are called tipper truck.....the odds are heavily tipped in their favour in an accident! Others will surely get crushed and trampled!
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Yes bro, i agree with u.. many of them in the West speed and cut each other like sports cars, with loads on their backs.. no wonder some end up in drains..
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The law must be harsher on those with greater impact on other road users, and these trucks would be the first choice.. penalties meted out for errant truck drivers must be harsh enough to discourage them from being reckless like now.. �jail and revoke of driving licence would be best,,�
i kana at about 50km/hr but was actually accelerating from low gear when the car in front e braked. I flew, my wife (that time was fiance) flew....result was torn sweater and baju kurung....Front brake too good,tire too grippy...
Finally Rider ride TOO fast..
Full face might lessen the facial injuries here but issue here will be:
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in this case, how is the motor going to claim since he is still quite a distance from the accident (lorry) area?
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Ownself claim ownself?
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claim from whom since motor never keep safe distance?�
Wa face plant
claim from whom since motor never keep safe distance?�
ownself claim ownself lo. (+ bad braking distribution)
Auntie's GT-R and Mother's M3...
obviously under aunty and mother's name for insurance purposes
LOL....and the TP was wondering why these 2 women have been clocking up traffic offences not caught by the officers themselves....
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Wa face plant
ownself claim ownself lo. (+ bad braking distribution)
obviously under aunty and mother's name for insurance purposes
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Never wear full face? Enjoy the reconstruction.
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Kancheong spider rider dunno how to brake properly or ride defensively? Enjoy the rash.
exactly. �These few days have straddlers and when i drive past them they shake head...what gives?? wtf...
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"I wish I have a BMW too" *shake head* 
obviously under aunty and mother's name for insurance purposes
Wonder if the insurance company go and CSI them out and cancel their insurance -
It's what I would do, pretty obvious case of fronting...
exactly. �These few days have straddlers and when i drive past them they shake head...what gives?? wtf...
The problem with some bikers are they always feel it is their right to lane split and give all sorts of justifications to do that. My take as a rider, wanna lane split no need to give any reason, do it at your own risk assessment. I personally dun like to lane split a long stream of vehicles as it leaves me no escape route at all plus I get unnecessary pressure from fellow bikers below. Msians bikers love that however n I m puzzled with their mindset til this day
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But when I travel in the centre of the lane gg with traffic flow, I do get a tailgaters in whatever lanes I m in. To counter that defensively, from 2 secs rule, I create 4 secs rule to make up that 2 secs rule that silly tailgater who did not give me. Well I do admit some will call me a b**tard here creating a far larger distance with the vehicle in front of me, I am creating a safer distance so that I can do a quick acceleration to a safer adjacent lane to get away & probably piss that silly tailgater off. Some tailgaters are plain habitual anyway.
Full face might lessen the facial injuries here but issue here will be:
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Wonder if the insurance company go and CSI them out and cancel their insurance -
It's what I would do, pretty obvious case of fronting...
What proof of fronting is there?
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And why would someone's aunt front the insurance for them (and not their parents?)
What a f**king joke, Mother's and Aunt's car�
�Ji eh xi buay paiseh�
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Why both cars was not seized for illegal racing ????
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Isn't SG law that vehicles used in illegal racing will have the vehicles seized.
Why both cars was not seized for illegal racing ????
Isn't SG law that vehicles used in illegal racing will have the vehicles seized.
Maybe their family are or related to some big shot
cos father already got 3 ferraris, 2 porsches, 1 lambo, 2 bentley, 1 RR, 1 aston martin to his name
mother got 3 merc, 4 bmw, 1 jaguar to her name....
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Question should be why will an auntie drive a Godzilla?
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Just ask the insurance to ask the auntie to demo driving the car one round the carpark herself to prove that she is the real owner can already....
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What proof of fronting is there?
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And why would someone's aunt front the insurance for them (and not their parents?)
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Don't anyhow say... their senior counsel will say that they are just testing the handling of the cars and they just happened to be testing both on the same route and the same time.
Why both cars was not seized for illegal racing ????
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Isn't SG law that vehicles used in illegal racing will have the vehicles seized.
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cos father already got 3 ferraris, 2 porsches, 1 lambo, 2 bentley, 1 RR, 1 aston martin to his name
mother got 3 merc, 4 bmw, 1 jaguar to her name....
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Question should be why will an auntie drive a Godzilla?
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Just ask the insurance to ask the auntie to demo driving the car one round the carpark herself to prove that she is the real owner can already....
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Don't anyhow say... their senior counsel will say that they are just testing the handling of the cars and they just happened to be testing both on the same route and the same time.
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Ya.... making illegal 'U' turn at the same time also. Both the youngster don't believe in coincidence and they tried again the second time and coincidently, same routes taken again.....
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Ya.... making illegal 'U' turn at the same time also. Both the youngster don't believe in coincidence and they tried again the second time and coincidently, same routes taken again.....
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And only the judge will belief the senior counsel ..
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Youngster never use "safety car" to clear the way first.
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What proof of fronting is there?
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And why would someone's aunt front the insurance for them (and not their parents?)
What is more likely - aunt lend young man a high performance car or aunt front the insurance on a bouncy jouncy uncomfortable sports car?
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there's no proof of fronting - but I guess that's what an investigation would be for right?
if the insurance company investigates I would applaud them -
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If it is how it looks, this is what drives up our insurance rates for honest drivers
What is more likely - aunt lend young man a high performance car or aunt front the insurance on a bouncy jouncy uncomfortable sports car?
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there's no proof of fronting - but I guess that's what an investigation would be for right?
if the insurance company investigates I would applaud them -
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If it is how it looks, this is what drives up our insurance rates for honest drivers
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Nothing wrong for them to investigate and in fact, I would encourage them to do so as well.
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I was just picking on your post which never ever mentioned doing any investigations and wanting the insurance coy to cancel the insurance.
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Wonder if the insurance company go and CSI them out and cancel their insurance -
It's what I would do, pretty obvious case of fronting...
Nothing wrong for them to investigate and in fact, I would encourage them to do so as well.
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I was just picking on your post which never ever mentioned doing any investigations and wanting the insurance coy to cancel the insurance.
Well yeah...� I coulda been more explicit in� my post,
But I woulda thought that an investigation and "due process" is pretty implicit part of "CSI them out"
Big shot that cum a lot. No wonder some at Bukit Batok and ..... then by-elections.Maybe their family are or related to some big shot
This is exactly the reason why I do not support lane straddling.
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The GF/Wife pillion got the worst of the injuries. Look at the angular momentum and her flight path...... smash face and chest first into the ground. Probably need to call in the maxillofacial reconstruction team at the A&E....
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Alot of riders here also forgot that in driving school, they are told to always have their arms and legs covered. See so many riders here riding in shorts and slippers. Of all the riders I know, I only know one guy who would wear heavier jeans with kevlar lining and those motorcycle jackets when he rides.
May not help much given the speed which riders are travelling based on my experience as a cyclist. When i crashed my bicycle at speed of less thN 20km per hr, already suffered from skin abrasion with cloths on....Alot of riders here also forgot that in driving school, they are told to always have their arms and legs covered. See so many riders here riding in shorts and slippers. Of all the riders I know, I only know one guy who would wear heavier jeans with kevlar lining and those motorcycle jackets when he rides.
Alot of riders here also forgot that in driving school, they are told to always have their arms and legs covered. See so many riders here riding in shorts and slippers. Of all the riders I know, I only know one guy who would wear heavier jeans with kevlar lining and those motorcycle jackets when he rides.
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No forgetting airbag also.
May not help much given the speed which riders are travelling based on my experience as a cyclist. When i crashed my bicycle at speed of less thN 20km per hr, already suffered from skin abrasion with cloths on....
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Better than nothing la. My neighbor did show me a tear in his jeans he gotten in an accident. It looked bad but he told me that it prevented his leg from getting even worse road rash. The jeans took most of the damage.
Yeah better than nothing.....but not sure if it is really that much protective or cause more problem....
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I had the experience of spending almost an hour trying to tease road grits, tar and jeans materian out from deep road rash wounds....
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not fun.....
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Better than nothing la. My neighbor did show me a tear in his jeans he gotten in an accident. It looked bad but he told me that it prevented his leg from getting even worse road rash. The jeans took most of the damage.
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146kmh also call racing? these 2 clowns jin xia suey..
Bloody strawberry generation. Do something useful with your life la.
SINGAPORE - Two friends who raced with each other along a stretch of road in Seletar in the early hours of New Year's Day last year (2015) were jailed, fined and banned from driving for taking part in a competition without a permit and for dangerous driving.
Ryujin Tan, 26, and Gordon Tan Zhi Liang, 27, had each admitted to two charges each of racing and dangerous driving along Seletar Link towards Punggol Way. Two other charges were considered during sentencing.
They were jailed for three weeks, fined $6,600 and banned from driving for 18 months on Friday (July 8).
Deputy Public Prosecutor Selene Yap said that Ryujin, who was driving his aunt's blue Nissan GTR, and Gordon, who was behind the wheel of his mother's red BMW, were in Yishun Dam on New Year's Day last year when they decided to race.
They were flagged off by one of Gordon's friends and switched lanes and made an illegal U-turn in the course of the competition.
After the first race, Ryujin told Gordon that he did not accelerate fully and requested another race, saying he would accelerate fully this time.
Ryujin then drove at a high speed along the extreme right lane of Seletar Link towards Tampines Expressway back to the start point. Both drivers made unauthorised U-turns and repositioned their cars at the start point.
The second race started at 2.12am. After about 800m, both cars made unauthorised U-turns at a gap and continued to race back to the start point.
A traffic police staff sergeant, who was part of a team conducting anti-illegal racing activities, captured Ryujin's car speed on the laser gun over a distance of 191.5m to be going at 146kmh.
The video of the races was played in court on Thursday when the duo pleaded guilty.
Ryujin's lawyer Desmond Tan said in mitigation that no real hazard was caused to anyone that morning, and that the only "spectators'' present then were his client's wife and the friends with whom he was hanging out before the race.
He said his client acknowledges that he had made an error in judgment by deciding to compete with the co-accused in a bid to determine who has the faster car.
Gordon's lawyer Mohan Das Naidu said his client was remorseful. Both men wanted to have some fun with their cars and hence decided to compete with each other.
The maximum penalty for taking part in a competition without a permit is six months' jail, a $2,000 fine and a driving ban of at least 12 months.
For dangerous driving, the maximum penalty is a $3,000 fine and 12 months' jail.
Wakaozzz...
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aiyoh.....where does they find this kind of bus drivers?https://m.facebook.c...503604089895680
Wakaozzz...
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aiyoh.....where does they find this kind of bus drivers?
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From China, maybe?�
From China, maybe?�
And remember, no death, they cannot stop hor...
Is it my eyes or the pedestrian signal portion is red at the point of crossing?
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Don't get me wrong, the bus should have stopped if the light was red whether there was anyone crossing or not.
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For the man on the motorised kick-scooter, if he wanted to enjoy the privilege of using the pedestrian crossing, at the least press the button for crossing. Whether he should have dismount or not is up for debate.
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Omg! Ya,the poor boy might hv internal injuries after this broadside hit..must go hospital check immediately, esp if got internal bleeding..the driver sibei ai wan..suay place suay time...Shit! How can the boy be fine with such an impact?
And the driver of the cam car just stayed in the car doing nothing all this while???� Doesn't matter if the boy was wrong to dash across the road.
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Or a woman driver crying in the seat after the accident?
Unlikely to have no injuries although he can stand up and walk. I hope they called the ambulance to send the boy for checkup. Internal injuries no joke. Best outcome is the poor boy recovers fully and will remember this experience for the rest of his life.Hope the boy is fine.
Parents just have to keep nagging at their kids about road safety lah no choice. I sound like a broken record every single day.
WTF was the driver doing after the accident? Fainted?
P/s: I will show this video to my boy to reinforce the importance of road safety. Not the gory type so suitable for kids education. One video beats my one-year worth of nagging.
Edited by Jellandross, 13 July 2016 - 01:30 AM.
Hope the boy is fine.
Got a shock watching the video ...
No way the driver able to react on time ... too sudden ...
Hope the boy will be ok ...
Parents, pls educate our kids to cross the roads safely ...don't run across ....
Look left, look right and look left again ...
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I've seen many cases where people just dash across the road after alighting from the bus. And they usually do it in front of the bus. I don't know why they do it but they must have felt invincible that the bus could protect them from other vehicle.
Anyway, pity the driver. Most likely he will get fine from TP.
Jialat. The driver should have slowed down when approaching stationary bus.
I've seen many cases where people just dash across the road after alighting from the bus. And they usually do it in front of the bus. I don't know why they do it but they must have felt invincible that the bus could protect them from other vehicle.
Anyway, pity the driver. Most likely he will get fine from TP.
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look like bmw
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Why? BMW drivers are always the reckless ones?�
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Nothing to do with the car lah�
Why? BMW drivers are always the reckless ones?�
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Nothing to do with the car lah�
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hhahaha.. no lah, looking at bonnet nia 
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the powerdome, looks like E90 LCI or F10...
soon, pple will say install traffic light in front of bus stop.
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seriously, I also wont brake in time.....
dont know is heng for the boy or suay for the driver....
Well, hindsight is always 20/20 right? While we should slow down, most of the time we don't not bec of recklessness but bec we dont expect it..Jialat. The driver should have slowed down when approaching stationary bus.
I've seen many cases where people just dash across the road after alighting from the bus. And they usually do it in front of the bus. I don't know why they do it but they must have felt invincible that the bus could protect them from other vehicle.
Anyway, pity the driver. Most likely he will get fine from TP.
It's an accident, caused by the boy running across the road suddenly.. the driver did nothing to exacerbate this accident and wasn't speeding..should not be faulted .. hope the boy is ok now..
Jialat. The driver should have slowed down when approaching stationary bus.
I've seen many cases where people just dash across the road after alighting from the bus. And they usually do it in front of the bus. I don't know why they do it but they must have felt invincible that the bus could protect them from other vehicle.
Anyway, pity the driver. Most likely he will get fine from TP.
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i was so dumbfounded by the vid that i needed to pray for his safety immediately.
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This is one vid that i will show my kid for sure. The danger of running out in front of a bus.
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Hope the boy will recover well and learn a lesson from this unfortunate accident.
everyone was pointing at the car and driver - not fair.
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he wasn't speeding - he couldn't hav seen the boy.
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no one could have reacted in time
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pedestrians shldn't cross in front/behind big vehicles.
Probably why the driver remains in the car. Got a shock, haven't recover and everyone already faulting him / her.�
To be fair to the driver, he or she was not speeding. Just unfortunate. Hope the boy is not seriously injured.
These type of drivers need to be taken off the road. What did cam car do to deserve that? Noob or not does not really matter. TP need take a serious view of these type of road bullies and hit them hard as a deterrent that such a behaviour is not tolerated.
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That aside, with a cam, I would let him hit and then report TP and claim that bugger gao gao.
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Totally agree, car cam guy should send the video to TP.�
I saw a video by Suzy Adorabella Lyliana in All Singapore Stuff Facebook.� Wanted to post the link here but cannot be done.
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This boy dashed out suddenly and luckily his head was not hit.� Hopefully� he is alright.� I feel heartache for his parents. ��
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I could almost imagine one of my boys doing that
from this video, many say heart pain and not harsh on the boy jaywalking.
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So drivers now probably be more caution and slow down when come to bus stop, especially in neighborhood area with single lane road.
I will�pray�for�the boy and wish him well. It was painful to see the way the boy tried to stand up�but failed...
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The driver should have come out of his car immediately to assist the boy,�I dono what�was he doing after that. WTF man...����
Driver heng its single continuous line.� Double line confirmed chop stamp he / she hang.
Full speed impact. The cam car did not brake until impact.......
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When driving pass an obstacles like a stopped van or bus, I make it a point to look at the hidden spots where a person can dash out.
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My right foot will be off the accelerator and positioned just touching the brake pedal. It might not prevent an accident but it will shave milliseconds off the reaction time in such classic case......
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Jialat. The driver should have slowed down when approaching stationary bus.
I've seen many cases where people just dash across the road after alighting from the bus. And they usually do it in front of the bus. I don't know why they do it but they must have felt invincible that the bus could protect them from other vehicle.
Anyway, pity the driver. Most likely he will get fine from TP.
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On hindsight, everything can be prevented.
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bus captain busy taking picture/video.
We will be able to see where is the driver.
Maybe sending to stomp to get S$50.
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DON'T BE THIS GUY
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*Kid was saved by modern car pedestrian safety design, impacted all the right spots, even the bonnet sprung up as a cushion before the body impacted down*
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*Kid was saved by modern car pedestrian safety design, impacted all the right spots, even the bonnet sprung up as a cushion before the body impacted down*
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Do you think this boy will still be able to walk if it is a Q7 or GLS? I think he will be gone...
Do you think this boy will still be able to walk if it is a Q7 or GLS? I think he will be gone...
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I had a similar brush in the evening near my home while picking up my wife from the bus-stop.
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Was turning right at junction when it was green in my favour and the pedestrian light was already red.
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I crossed the junction carefully and while approaching the already red pedestrian crossing, a boy on a bicycle dashed down the slope and crossed the junction while I was a picking up speed to cross.
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The boy and bike brushed the rear left fender. I quickly stopped�at the side of the road and ran to see the boy whom had taken off.
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Luckily, 2 pedestrians caught up with him before he could get away and they told him off in my presence that the light was not in his favour and he should have stopped and waited and push the bike across instead of riding across.
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I heaved a sigh of relieve and thanked them and left with a scratch on my car.
Did schools stop teaching kids how to properly cross roads? (with appropriately gory pictures)
Aiyah just take it as Darwinism and a reminder for us drivers to expect the unexpected, especially around built-up areas.
Did schools stop teaching kids how to properly cross roads? (with appropriately gory pictures)
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Why leave it to schools?� Parents should be responsible for their own products.
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Why leave it to schools?� Parents should be responsible for their own products.
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(I am going to show the video to mine)
because...
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I think sch principals should show this video during assembly (still got such thing?) to reinforce road safety.Did schools stop teaching kids how to properly cross roads? (with appropriately gory pictures)
But hor knowing softie parents these days, sure will complain about the content traumatizing their fragile snowflakes kind of nonsense.
My heart skips when I see the video.
For those who bash the driver, I think its really not right (Just my own view).
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My reason are as below :�
1. the driver was not speeding
2. No matter who is it, the reaction time is really too short and can see the driver did try to brake ASAP thus the lesser impact
3. The driver did get out of the car, from the auntie who have eye lvl contact and the direction she facing when talking show the driver should be somewhere outside beside his door.
We are not sure if he was calling the ambulance or what thus we should not just jump to conclusion and said its his mistake.
4. Some ppl may due to shocked react a little slower after the incident
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Hope the boy did not have major injuries and learnt his lesson of not dashing across the road in future
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Anyway everyone have their views and just my 2 cents worth
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I empathise with the driver too. Why? Because 10 years ago i had an�almost exact�accident like this. That time�had 2 ladies waiting to cross a traffic light which was in my favour (not theirs). Then suddenly�one saw the opposite oncoming bus and decided to dash in front of the bus to intercept it, most likely that was her intended bus. The time she decided to dash across was so sudden, I wasn't able to brake in time to avoid. But luckily my ebrake was so effective I merely "tripped" her onto my bonnet. So the impact was only her face when she fell face first on my bonnet, she did not fly like the boy.
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So then came the interesting part. Every passerbys�then came to me and started scolding me for reckless driving, some even accused me of beating red light. I had no time for them as I was�busy checking on her and also calling ambulance for her and calling�police. As you can see in the video, this boy most likely saw his bus coming and trying to dash across in front of it. Yes its unfortunate and hopefully nothing serious happen to the boy. But clearly you see the boy was at fault and he learnt a painful lesson. Say now its not a car but a motorcycle and the motorcyclist flip and�he get a even serious injury, will the same driver bashers still side with the boy?
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Its human nature to defend someone suffering but to start bashing the driver for unsafe driving I think we have to put ourselves in his/her shoe first.
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For my case, I calmly told the TP what happened and said light was in my favour and asked him to ask the friend of the lady. Because she was waiting to cross while her friend decided to dash, so if she was truthful enough she would agree I was not lying. The TP asked if I knew other witnesses, I told him to ask the bus driver. The bus driver mostly like saw what happened especially when a woman on the opposite side trying to dash across to board his bus. Furthermore, she would not need to dash across if the light was in her favour because the bus would have to stop anyway.
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In the end, I was free of any charges and the lady got a letter of warning for indiscriminate crossing. This was at the time where there was no in car video to prove my innocence. I am glad this driver has one.
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Road safely, i think is primary, bring everyone go road safety park.�
i remember back in sec. school , will have mata shu shu come to school show pictures of ppl gang fight, kenna slash here and there, intestines all sticking out... etc etc...�
Road safely, i think is primary, bring everyone go road safety park.�
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i thought every primary will get to visit this park at least once?
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Kids are kids and they have to be taught right from young. I wouldn't point the finger at the school at all.
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Just this morning, I have someone "jay riding". Someone riding a motorised wheelchair was crossing the traffic when the lights were in my favour. Can't she wait for a few minutes to cross rather than to take the risk.
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i thought every primary will get to visit this park at least once?
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I found out recently that road safety park is actually open and unmanned during the day (not sure about night). �Anyone can just bring their kids in and use it without prior registration. �I always thought you must pay for it or something.
I found out recently that road safety park is actually open and unmanned during the day (not sure about night). �Anyone can just bring their kids in and use it without prior registration. �I always thought you must pay for it or something.
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already open and unmanned for many years. U can just bring your kids there to play.�
Gone are the hey days....
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Nowadays very desolated. Minimum caretaking. Alot of mosquitoes. Even if you bring your kids, it will just be an empty riding park with simulated roads and structures.
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But the main idea about Road Safety Park is to have the "drivers", "riders", "pedestrians", NPCC cadets pretending to be TP to expose the chewren to simulated road conditions and to teach and show them the rules and safety tips in practise.
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I found out recently that road safety park is actually open and unmanned during the day (not sure about night). �Anyone can just bring their kids in and use it without prior registration. �I always thought you must pay for it or something.
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road crossing is a habit to be conditioned into the child's brain, no point telling one thing and do the other. Saw many time parents pulling the child hand to jaywalk although the kid say 'teacher say cannot'.
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even now when my kids are already older, every time i try to jaywalk sure kena scolding from them.
road crossing is a habit to be conditioned into the child's brain, no point telling one thing and do the other. Saw many time parents pulling the child hand to jaywalk although the kid say 'teacher say cannot'.
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even now when my kids are already older, every time i try to jaywalk sure kena scolding from them.
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sigh, you are one of those rare parents who educate your kids to be responsible for their own actions.
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Nowadays, I observe that more and more parents are blaming everything else that happens to their kids. �They are just not willing to take the responsibility that it is their own failed upbringing of their kids, by either setting bad example or simply bochap, that resulted in certain behaviour in their kids.
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I had a teacher who shared with me that a school boy in sec 2 broke his fingers when clowning on the chin up bar during recess, and the parents blame the school for his injuries. The thing is that the form teacher has called and informed the mom many times that the boy is behaving in such a way that will endanger his friends and himself by clowning around in class and PE lesson. �The mom response was epic.... My son is expressing himself and making his class relax by clowning around, what is wrong with that? the school shld understand his kind intention.....
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Parents Fault, poor up bringing.� They have this kid to milk wealth out of insurance claim.� This is the sole function of this kid. Very sad.
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Driver Fault, too fast, look like 40km/h to me, never slow down/stop/prepare to stop near blind spot, never attend to victim in a timely manner.
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The car DID slow down la... look at the kerb black/white markers before impact. The car also dived down before the hit. �EVEN if it's 40km/h, it's not speeding. � When you see when the point the driver braked, pretty decent reaction time imo. The kid's actions made the hit unavoidable. �Come i post 3x let u all see properly.�
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Saw the boy landed on his chest .... heart pain as every parent will feel. The cam driver was slow to react and assist though.I will pray for the boy and wish him well. It was painful to see the way the boy tried to stand up but failed...
The driver should have come out of his car immediately to assist the boy, I dono what was he doing after that. WTF man...
road crossing is a habit to be conditioned into the child's brain, no point telling one thing and do the other. Saw many time parents pulling the child hand to jaywalk although the kid say 'teacher say cannot'.
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They shd have a pedestrian version of this kind of training bec quite literally, if you fxxk it up, it may cost you your life.
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Just this morning, I literally came to a full stop for a young chap (his head down looking at handphone) at a cornering. I didn't horn but pointed at him. He realized and made an apologetic sign to me. Haiz .... using handphone is another big culprit in accidents.
Hope car alrightThe car DID slow down la... look at the kerb black/white markers before impact. The car also dived down before the hit. EVEN if it's 40km/h, it's not speeding. When you see when the point the driver braked, pretty decent reaction time imo. The kid's actions made the hit unavoidable. Come i post 3x let u all see properly.
Parents Fault, poor up bringing.� They have this kid to milk wealth out of insurance claim.� This is the sole function of this kid. Very sad.
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Dei, 40km/h bo sala on this road.� Driver not speeding, just cannot react instantaneously to something flying past from�the blind area.�I'd like to see you react�in the same�circumstances.�
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�If you say�driver 70/30, then we going to become like China liao, better run the fella over and make sure he / she can never claim you ever.
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Probably not right to pick a fight with a moderator, but that's a f**king stupid comment.
Probably not right to pick a fight with a moderator, but that's a f**king stupid comment.
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i totally agree and i do not dispute but sometimes when i see mroe and more of such incidents, i feel more sorry for the driver rather than the pedestrian.
I wonder how his the poor boy now and which school is he in.� Hopefully someone call the ambulance and disallow him to go home instead.
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Saw he landed on his chest.� Hopefully no internal injury.� May god bless him. ????
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I wonder how his the poor boy now and which school is he in.� Hopefully someone call the ambulance and disallow him to go home instead.
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Saw he landed on his chest.� Hopefully no internal injury.� May god bless him. ????
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they did call one, and he did not have any internal injuries. �He is damn lucky
they did call one, and he did not have any internal injuries. �He is damn lucky
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they did call one, and he did not have any internal injuries. �He is damn lucky
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when he was hit and he flew and landed, the way he pick himself up aldy show he was 'gong' (2).
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when he was hit and he flew and landed, the way he pick himself up aldy show he was 'gong' (2).
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hope a through check was done.
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he can wake up and walk. �However, we have to be sure as it may be a reflex response and later on the injury effects may set in. �24 hrs monitoring would be necessary. �Xrays would be needed and in this case, Hip/rib, Femur/tibia
No leh ....... I watch 10X lor,� slow down as in counting from as you passby bus lor.
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Anyway, this is a classic scenario in Highway Code, yeah, Highway Code specifically mentioned this scenario.
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The car DID slow down la... look at the kerb black/white markers before impact. The car also dived down before the hit. �EVEN if it's 40km/h, it's not speeding. � When you see when the point the driver braked, pretty decent reaction time imo. The kid's actions made the hit unavoidable. �Come i post 3x let u all see properly.�
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This morning had a scare of my life as I experienced my car's ESP kicked in and saved me from crashing.
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Was travelling on centre lane when this Stream suddenly swerve into my lane. As I knew there was no vehicles beside me, I made a sudden avoidance maneuver. Can hear the tyres screeching as I stamped on the brakes and swerve. After recovering, I stopped, wind down my window and shouted at the driver. He apologised and say there is car exiting the carpark and he also trying to avoid it. I told him that he should have stopped and not swerved into me.
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He apologised again. So I left. Thinking of reporting to TP but unable to read the license plate from my videos. So just post it here. I remember its SJNXXXXX.
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No leh ....... I watch 10X lor,� slow down as in counting from as you passby bus lor.
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Anyway, this is a classic scenario in Highway Code, yeah, Highway Code specifically mentioned this scenario.
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Use the kerb markings to see. you can see the point where driver hits the brakes, the kerbs slow down �+ the car dives downwards just a few milliseconds before hitting the reckless boy, but enough to prevent a full speed impact.�
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No leh ....... I watch 10X lor,� slow down as in counting from as you passby bus lor.
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Ya, I watched 100x and still the same. Car did not slow down when approaching bus stop. By the time the driver brake, it's too late liao. That's why the impact caused the kid flew like Superman.
Ya, I watched 100x and still the same. Car did not slow down when approaching bus stop. By the time the driver brake, it's too late liao. That's why the impact caused the kid flew like Superman.
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i totally agree and i do not dispute but sometimes when i see mroe and more of such incidents, i feel more sorry for the driver rather than the pedestrian.
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Yalor, this type of road I usually drive at 95km/h, so far so good only 2 cases.
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1 case Mad Woman, in-out IMH one, I stop within 1 inch. I did nothing as Mad people are mad people.
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Dei, 40km/h bo sala on this road.� Driver not speeding, just cannot react instantaneously to something flying past from�the blind area.�I'd like to see you react�in the same�circumstances.�
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No offence, but if driving defensively that shouldn't have happened. Always expect other road users to be complete idiots, and you'll rarely be disappointed.This morning had a scare of my life as I experienced my car's ESP kicked in and saved me from crashing.
Was travelling on centre lane when this Stream suddenly swerve into my lane. As I knew there was no vehicles beside me, I made a sudden avoidance maneuver. Can hear the tyres screeching as I stamped on the brakes and swerve. After recovering, I stopped, wind down my window and shouted at the driver. He apologised and say there is car exiting the carpark and he also trying to avoid it. I told him that he should have stopped and not swerved into me.
He apologised again. So I left. Thinking of reporting to TP but unable to read the license plate from my videos. So just post it here. I remember its SJNXXXXX.
In this case, the actions of the car were fairly easy to anticipate.
Also, ESP shouldn't be kicking in on a dry road. Maybe it's time for a tyre check. But anyway, if you plan a little ahead, emergency manoeuvres may be avoided, and ESP, ABS etc. won't be activated.
Just some pointers, not meaning to criticise. Anyway, good that there was no accident, and since the guy apologised, let it go. I would.
This morning had a scare of my life as I experienced my car's ESP kicked in and saved me from crashing.
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Was travelling on centre lane when this Stream suddenly swerve into my lane. As I knew there was no vehicles beside me, I made a sudden avoidance maneuver. Can hear the tyres screeching as I stamped on the brakes and swerve. After recovering, I stopped, wind down my window and shouted at the driver. He apologised and say there is car exiting the carpark and he also trying to avoid it. I told him that he should have stopped and not swerved into me.
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He apologised again. So I left. Thinking of reporting to TP but unable to read the license plate from my videos. So just post it here. I remember its SJNXXXXX.
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On what planet is that reckless driving?
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Maybe will kena the standard "fail to keep a proper lookout" blah blah blah
Now that I watch the slow-mo version of the video, the boy could have broken his NECK. This is really scary. I hope he is ok.
Now that I watch the slow-mo version of the video, the boy could have broken his NECK. This is really scary. I hope he is ok.
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This morning had a scare of my life as I experienced my car's ESP kicked in and saved me from crashing.
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Was travelling on centre lane when this Stream suddenly swerve into my lane. As I knew there was no vehicles beside me, I made a sudden avoidance maneuver. Can hear the tyres screeching as I stamped on the brakes and swerve. After recovering, I stopped, wind down my window and shouted at the driver. He apologised and say there is car exiting the carpark and he also trying to avoid it. I told him that he should have stopped and not swerved into me.
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He apologised again. So I left. Thinking of reporting to TP but unable to read the license plate from my videos. So just post it here. I remember its SJNXXXXX.
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Just out of curiosity ---
I notice you were travelling at 70 km/h - what is the speed limit on that section of road?
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Easy for me to say in hindsight, but in a situation like that, I often move one lane over in preparation of just such instances (yeah, Monday morning quarterbacking quite bad...which is easy on the video)�
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*Kid was saved by modern car pedestrian safety design, impacted all the right spots, even the bonnet sprung up as a cushion before the body impacted down*
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Just out of curiosity ---
I notice you were travelling at 70 km/h - what is the speed limit on that section of road?
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Easy for me to say in hindsight, but in a situation like that, I often move one lane over in preparation of just such instances (yeah, Monday morning quarterbacking quite bad...which is easy on the video)�
�In short - watching the video, there is a lot of predictability - may not have been like that in real life, but there may be lessons to learn from the video none the less and self examination / reflection�might be worthwhile.
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I think arm chair quarterbacks should direct their efforts at playing Madden.�
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Believe it or not, i'm walking on air.
HahahahahahaBelieve it or not, i'm walking on air.
I post the picture
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Believe it or not, i'm walking on air.
CLASSIC show!!
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Feel dam heartpain man. Hope the boy recovers well.
Agree agree...that's why just a gentle gentle "wonder aloud" and not a scoldingI think arm chair quarterbacks should direct their efforts at playing Madden.
Parents Fault, poor up bringing.� They have this kid to milk wealth out of insurance claim.� This is the sole function of this kid. Very sad.
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Well George was right to chop the tree that time
Boy shd b ok. Walked but in shock. Versatile and flexible collagen with developing epiphysis.
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IMO, the car didn't just exceed the white line. Seems like he didn't even stop at the white line. From the rear camera, can see that the car exiting was taking up the whole left lane already.
the impact he did is high as the kid might have internal bleeding which might cause him to coma stage on next few days. Just pray he is alright!!! If he dies, driver, all the best to you!!! Edited by Jq1988, 13 July 2016 - 05:36 PM.
The driver is very careless and only care to reach his destination. Driving in hdb area should be under 50km/h. Obviously he is speeding and distracted. If the boy is my Son, sure I give the driver Teruk Teruk! Be a responsible driver not hurting the minor on the road. Drove on road for more than 25 years, always look out for pedestrians regardless they are on the zebra crossing or not. Hitting someone on the road should be guilty and not try to find fault on the poor kid.
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seriously? Did you see the video? The kid dashed across from a blind spot! There is no way the driver could have averted the accident. The onus is on the boy not to have crossed the rd in front of a big vehicle and not watching for traffic.The driver is very careless and only care to reach his destination. Driving in hdb area should be under 50km/h. Obviously he is speeding and distracted. If the boy is my Son, sure I give the driver Teruk Teruk! Be a responsible driver not hurting the minor on the road. Drove on road for more than 25 years, always look out for pedestrians regardless they are on the zebra crossing or not. Hitting someone on the road should be guilty and not try to find fault on the poor kid.
we can spare him the blame but we have to blame the parents for failing to teach him to cross the rd safely. I just showed my 11 yo daughter the video and used it as a lesson on crossing the rd safelyHe is a minor though after all. Spare him the blame as he is already suffering.
Gone are the hey days....
Nowadays very desolated. Minimum caretaking. Alot of mosquitoes. Even if you bring your kids, it will just be an empty riding park with simulated roads and structures.
But the main idea about Road Safety Park is to have the "drivers", "riders", "pedestrians", NPCC cadets pretending to be TP to expose the chewren to simulated road conditions and to teach and show them the rules and safety tips in practise.
My son been there as a TP during one NPCC outing. A few primary skool kids called him uncle! LOL!
we can spare him the blame but we have to blame the parents for failing to teach him to cross the rd safely. I just showed my 11 yo daughter the video and used it as a lesson on crossing the rd safely
Well done bro! I showed the video to my son too. He shook his head and tsk tsk tsk!
LOL....you force me to admit my age..... I had been a "TP" "uncle" for 3 times during my secondary school days.....
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My son been there as a TP during one NPCC outing. A few primary skool kids called him uncle! LOL!
Well done bro! I showed the video to my son too. He shook his head and tsk tsk tsk!
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LOL....you force me to admit my age..... I had been a "TP" "uncle" for 3 times during my secondary school days.....
ROFL.... you also force me to admit my age ... Never knew got this park! Huh?
eh.....back in the 70s there was already this kind of exercise in East Coast Safety Park lah! Crap....now u know my age (as if i have never admitted my age here)....LOL....you force me to admit my age..... I had been a "TP" "uncle" for 3 times during my secondary school days.....
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After watching the video, yes I think it is hard to react in time to avoid hitting the boy, but what happens after the boy is hit? I read that the boy got up and went away before the ambulance came. Did he suffer any major injuries, did the driver alight and offer help, did he report the case to the police, did he take the the contact of the boy, or did he just drove off?
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Yes, I agree is a matter of wrong time wrong place for the driver, bad bad luck is all I can offer him/her as consolation. However, from the footage of the video, and what I have read, it seems like the driver did not offer help to the boy after the accident. Is this correct?
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I think the law state that even if we hit an animal, we are to alight and offer help, otherwise it would be a case of hit and run ( I hope I am correct, please correct me if I am wrong), and it is a human being we are talking about here, and a young helpless one. Never mind the fact that the boy was the cause of the whole incident, the driver did hit him and he flew away.
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I hope the boy learn his lesson, and help to spread the message to his friends and mates on road safety. This also remind us all drivers again, please alight and offer assistance if we ever hit someone, human or animals alike. Never mind who is the cause, we need to make sure that life is not endanger before anything else, less we get sleepless nights and nightmares for the rest of our life...
I wonder what you will say if you are the unlucky driver to encounter a jayRUNNER dashing into the path of your car and you knock him/her down being unable to avoid the collision.
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Looks like there are many angry drivers on the road. I believe we have forgotten the basic traffic rules on the road. Though been driving daily on the road. Courtesy and good road sense are still the main core to get home safely to my family. Without harming others, I can sleep better every night and see my kids at home. Being a safe driver is important, please be mindful of words use online. If not, you are no different from the careless driver...please repent before it is too late!!! Life is short, it is important for us to do the right thing, not get things right. I have received multiples ugly words from you guys, no worries, it is not getting me agitated but allow more people to know�that good social etiquette online is significant and we are moving away from it. Please don't regard a child's life to an animal.�He is�human and precious to his family too. Thanks God, he is alive!
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Looks like there are many angry drivers on the road. I believe we have forgotten the basic traffic rules on the road. Though been driving daily on the road. Courtesy and good road sense are still the main core to get home safely to my family. Without harming others, I can sleep better every night and see my kids at home. Being a safe driver is important, please be mindful of words use online. If not, you are no different from the careless driver...please repent before it is too late!!! Life is short, it is important for us to do the right thing, not get things right. I have received multiples ugly words from you guys, no worries, it is not getting me agitated but allow more people to know�that good social etiquette online is significant and we are moving away from it. Please don't regard a child's life to an animal.�He is�human and precious to his family too. Thanks God, he is alive!
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Hope you do not encounter someone like the boy who dashed out without looking. Even if you do, I'm sure your good road sense, lightning quick reflexes and superior car brakes would have saved the day.
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Looks like there are many angry drivers on the road. I believe we have forgotten the basic traffic rules on the road. Though been driving daily on the road. Courtesy and good road sense are still the main core to get home safely to my family. Without harming others, I can sleep better every night and see my kids at home. Being a safe driver is important, please be mindful of words use online. If not, you are no different from the careless driver...please repent before it is too late!!! Life is short, it is important for us to do the right thing, not get things right. I have received multiples ugly words from you guys, no worries, it is not getting me agitated but allow more people to know�that good social etiquette online is significant and we are moving away from it. Please don't regard a child's life to an animal.�He is�human and precious to his family too. Thanks God, he is alive!
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You will have to accept the fact that this is "mycarforum", where most members here are drivers, it would be a very different reaction if you were posting in "kiasu parents" or some other parents major forums...LOL
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Looks like there are many angry drivers on the road. I believe we have forgotten the basic traffic rules on the road. Though been driving daily on the road. Courtesy and good road sense are still the main core to get home safely to my family. Without harming others, I can sleep better every night and see my kids at home. Being a safe driver is important, please be mindful of words use online. If not, you are no different from the careless driver...please repent before it is too late!!! Life is short, it is important for us to do the right thing, not get things right. I have received multiples ugly words from you guys, no worries, it is not getting me agitated but allow more people to know�that good social etiquette online is significant and we are moving away from it. Please don't regard a child's life to an animal.�He is�human and precious to his family too. Thanks God, he is alive!
U dun even hv gd social online etiquette and u expect ppl to give you tat?! Ur profile pic also give us an impression u r nothing but a dirty o' man! We dun hv many angry drivers on the road but probably self-righteous like u. U seem to enjoy telling ppl alot of "should hv", why dun u tell ur mum what will happen if she "should hv" married someone else but not ur dad? Do note that this is not a personal attack but a reflection of what u r doing to others! We know we cant get u mad but ur post indeed make real righteous ppl mad. We both felt sad for both kid & driver. Driver suay cant avoid & kids should not hv to go thru this experience to learn how to be safe on roads.
I do pity kids being knocked down cos I think it is a hard lesson for them especially when they are still in learning stage. Ptiy the o' folks too, can tell they r hoping they can be faster themselves by their willpower but cant in reality.
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To those harping on the fact that the driver did not step out immediately after the accident, I would applaud your calmness if *touch wood* a similar incident happens to you and you would react like what you said on hindsight.
To those harping on the fact that the driver did not step out immediately after the accident, I would applaud your calmness if *touch wood* a similar incident happens to you and you would react like what you said on hindsight.
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I mentioned before a bike knock me from the back and he fell, my first reaction was get out to see how bad was he although he keep apologising. I didn't even bother with the damage on my car and check his bike as ok and if he need to go hospital.
U dun even hv gd social online etiquette and u expect ppl to give you tat?! Ur profile pic also give us an impression u r nothing but a dirty o' man!�
OI dun anyhow insult dirty old man hor!!!
OI dun anyhow insult dirty old man hor!!!
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OI dun anyhow insult dirty old man hor!!!
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urm..because you are a dirty old man... 
urm..because you are a dirty old man...
I am dirty young man!
Angry Hor like that say u.OI dun anyhow insult dirty old man hor!!!
To those harping on the fact that the driver did not step out immediately after the accident, I would applaud your calmness if *touch wood* a similar incident happens to you and you would react like what you said on hindsight.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........................so what do you when you hit someone..........sit there do nothing..............or just drive away???...................and then tell police you got stress management problem..................you cannot keep calm...............you sibei kancheong you hit someone...............you dont know what to do............
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if you cannot even react to such incidents...................i think taking public transport is better for you................
Looks like there are many angry drivers on the road. I believe we have forgotten the basic traffic rules on the road. Though been driving daily on the road. Courtesy and good road sense are still the main core to get home safely to my family. Without harming others, I can sleep better every night and see my kids at home. Being a safe driver is important, please be mindful of words use online. If not, you are no different from the careless driver...please repent before it is too late!!! Life is short, it is important for us to do the right thing, not get things right. I have received multiples ugly words from you guys, no worries, it is not getting me agitated but allow more people to know�that good social etiquette online is significant and we are moving away from it. Please don't regard a child's life to an animal.�He is�human and precious to his family too. Thanks God, he is alive!
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Don't talk cock lah .... are you sure that if you are in the same situation, you can avoid the accident. Accident are accident ... it happens,�
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And it has nothing to do with angry drivers.
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At a reasonable speed of 40km/hr to 60km/hr, I believe no driver would be able to stop in time. Even if it is a manual cyclist encountering such situation, I doubt they can avoid running down this kid.�
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Lastly, I don't think the car was speeding even the video makes it look like it was. The car was probably in the midst of accelerating. The kid appeared in front of the bus at the 0:02 mark, impact was at 0:03.
It would be reasonable to assume that the driver only noticed the kid half a second later and applied brakes immediately. That's just half a second of reaction time for the driver. Unless the driver is expecting something to appear out of nowhere from the bus, then I certainly, think the driver reacted reasonably well under the circumstances. The powerful braking also probably save the kid's life.
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Let's be reasonable and say that pedestrian has to do their part. The kid is as good as crossing the road blind-folded and leave the consequences to God to decide. And he was lucky. No amount of care by drivers is going to help to avoid such accidents. All road users must do their own part. Don't leave your part to others to take care.�
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That said, I wonder why the driver didn't go up to check on the kid he just ran down. Too shock?
U dun even hv gd social online etiquette and u expect ppl to give you tat?! Ur profile pic also give us an impression u r nothing but a dirty o' man! We dun hv many angry drivers on the road but probably self-righteous like u. U seem to enjoy telling ppl alot of "should hv", why dun u tell ur mum what will happen if she "should hv" married someone else but not ur dad? Do note that this is not a personal attack but a reflection of what u r doing to others! We know we cant get u mad but ur post indeed make real righteous ppl mad. We both felt sad for both kid & driver. Driver suay cant avoid & kids should not hv to go thru this experience to learn how to be safe on roads.
I do pity kids being knocked down cos I think it is a hard lesson for them especially when they are still in learning stage. Ptiy the o' folks too, can tell they r hoping they can be faster themselves by their willpower but cant in reality.
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I hv to be honest that I no longer pity full grown well-abled yaya adults who sometimes really deserve to be knocked down to let them wake up when crossing the roads & those reckless motorist as well.
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what has his avatar got to do with his comments???.............mayb it gave YOU the impression................but seriously I dont agree to the word 'US'.............and WTF do you have to bring parents into the discussion..............and you call this non personal attack?............
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Looks like there are many angry drivers on the road. I believe we have forgotten the basic traffic rules on the road. Though been driving daily on the road. Courtesy and good road sense are still the main core to get home safely to my family. Without harming others, I can sleep better every night and see my kids at home. Being a safe driver is important, please be mindful of words use online. If not, you are no different from the careless driver...please repent before it is too late!!! Life is short, it is important for us to do the right thing, not get things right. I have received multiples ugly words from you guys, no worries, it is not getting me agitated but allow more people to know�that good social etiquette online is significant and we are moving away from it. Please don't regard a child's life to an animal.�He is�human and precious to his family too. Thanks God, he is alive!
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i also gave you 5 dislikes for your 'holier-than-thou' mentality.�
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praising yourself and telling everyone that only you are capable of having good road sense and getting home without harming others ...�
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Haha I would react of course, I'm just saying not everyone handle situation the same way.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........................so what do you when you hit someone..........sit there do nothing..............or just drive away???...................and then tell police you got stress management problem..................you cannot keep calm...............you sibei kancheong you hit someone...............you dont know what to do............
if you cannot even react to such incidents...................i think taking public transport is better for you................
I had a personal experience anyway, a lady drove into me when I was crossing the zebra crossing. I had to pick myself up while she sits there stunned.
what has his avatar got to do with his comments???.............mayb it gave YOU the impression................but seriously I dont agree to the word 'US'.............and WTF do you have to bring parents into the discussion..............and you call this non personal attack?............
Do pardon me then for using the word "us" as u probably felt it involves u and unintentionally stepped on ur tail. I agree that his avatar has nothing to do with his comments
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Yes I did bring his parents into the pic but by no means a personal attack I stress. So may I know which part is a personal attack? By just mentioning his parents? By posing a question concerning his parents for him to answer? I can try to amend my comments if it caused u great distress.�
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But I personally do feel that some ppl just needed to be treated this way (personal attack if u prefer to label it) by having such qns posed to them, to let them feel the position they put others into with their replies tats all.
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Chill & hv a great day ahead. Dun go around f... f... thou its gd sexercise.
Haha I would react of course, I'm just saying not everyone handle situation the same way.
I had a personal experience anyway, a lady drove into me when I was crossing the zebra crossing. I had to pick myself up while she sits there stunned.
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your original comment seem to indicate that most ppl will not be calm enough to react................and that you will be so impress that you will have to clap for them if they manage to react.............NO?
the lao chiao can hao lian.....cum MCF sibei stress.................want haolian also must pretend pretend................if not sure kena left right centre up down...............
Constructive is for the benefits of all drivers here :))
ehhh..if u can understand, it is impression i m talking about. Looks like u choose to absorb whats not. I dun blame u anyway.
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The person didnt seem to get so angry but u did instead. Any relation in-between?
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U mean u get anry when ppl ask u generally abt ur loved ones? Ehhh...I think I didnt get ur parents into discussion u must hv read wrongly. Looks like u can get sour over the mere mention of "parents"? Need help to get over that allergy? F...word has a meaning...u didnt use it correctly thou.
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bro.....you have been a member for 10 yrs.....chill. Sometime we get misquoted othertimes people read and their opinion differs from others.....no need to go on and on. Its just a forum....ehhh..if u can understand, it is impression i m talking about. Looks like u choose to absorb whats not. I dun blame u anyway.
The person didnt seem to get so angry but u did instead. Any relation in-between?
U mean u get anry when ppl ask u generally abt ur loved ones? Ehhh...I think I didnt get ur parents into discussion u must hv read wrongly. Looks like u can get sour over the mere mention of "parents"? Need help to get over that allergy? F...word has a meaning...u didnt use it correctly thou.
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Some times we just deserve it...bro.....you have been a member for 10 yrs.....chill. Sometime we get misquoted othertimes people read and their opinion differs from others.....no need to go on and on. Its just a forum....
Look at me
This time, maybe grandmother's C- class and grandfather's A4.
http://www.channelne...al/2953536.html
I think I hv answered ur qns within my capacity..again if u understand, I m not asking for an answer fr u if u understand. Thank you for being objective and maybe that qualify to be in haolian thread?
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Thank you for the reminder but dun think you can do anything..again thank you for being more than a mod, than a mod.
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I don't know WTF is so special about Seletar Link. Used to frequent there for work.
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This time, maybe grandmother's C- class and grandfather's A4.
http://www.channelne...al/2953536.html
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I don't know WTF is so special about Seletar Link. Used to frequent there for work.
Long straight road with no traffic at night perhaps?
Then the stretch beside Tengah is better leh...Long straight road with no traffic at night perhaps?
Another 2 charged for racing at seletar link.
This time, maybe grandmother's C- class and grandfather's A4.
http://www.channelne...al/2953536.html
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i have spent the last 10mins reading tru your exchange with tianmo...�
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and proceed to stir tianmo when he pointed out you should not bring in someone's parent into a discussion... just becoz you claim to have no intention does not mean it is not..�
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your following thinly-veiled inference about tianmo is trying to illicit a response from him and you duely got it.. �
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i have not disliked someone's comment for a LOONG time.. �get off your pedestal
Everybody has the right to like or dislike..it is one's call.
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I m getting back only the person who commented ppl should hv done this or that, as I felt this is an unfair statement like the rest. Hence felt HE should be treated with his own medicine. IT is not to anger anyone else other than the person.�
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Might be confiscated...... confiscated means what? TP can slap on TP logo and use it to patrol the streets huh?
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Another 2 charged for racing at seletar link.
This time, maybe grandmother's C- class and grandfather's A4.
http://www.channelne...al/2953536.html
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It's long, but not as long as LCK i think?
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As for traffic at night, yes hardly any traffic there after the mixer trucks and tipper trucks finish work for the night.
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Personally I have seen street racers there. But I left them alone since they didn't disturb my humble kimchi car
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Looks like a riced up Merc.
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Either crushed or auctioned off.
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Not sure if they would transfer the cars to other departments for use though. Like CID or CNB.
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Might be confiscated...... confiscated means what? TP can slap on TP logo and use it to patrol the streets huh?
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Looks like a riced up Merc.
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Another kid runs in front of car, no drama, would have been worse if going faster:
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lelong lor....Might be confiscated...... confiscated means what? TP can slap on TP logo and use it to patrol the streets huh?
This one more appropriate:
Welli apt. I thought I was the only one who saw this.
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I read your first sentence...............and jumping with joy..............i want i want to dislike...............but I read the 3rd paragraph...........and tell myself..............KNN if I dislike this............I will have to praise you on the next post.............KNN better save my 10 points for others................
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Finally 65%. Not bad. Betterer than white team in 2011 but worserer than white team in 2015.
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You really got the post you deserve, I don't want to hear any more complaining (or disliking)!!!.......................................
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Ur car? What happen? U horn him he not happy?
Chey...
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I'm likely in the minority on this, and I'm probably gonna get flamed and possibly "disliked" - that's OK - just remember to leave your name and not be an anonymous coward about it, I won't bite back.
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But I don't agree with this relentless persecution of street racing. Yes, it's illegal. But if they're doing it away from other earthly traffic at ungodly hours on a deserted road, who, other than themselves (and possibly willing participants/spectators) are they really putting at risk?�
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The TP are diverting resources to catching people at ungodly hours like these in addition to putting people on bridges (and yes, they do this to catch non-racing speeders on empty roads in the wee hours too). Meanwhile, road hazards during rush hour are allowed to continue - dangerously overloaded trucks, weaving and lane-splitting bikes, irresponsible pedestrians, cyclists and e-cyclists. I know it's fallacious to attribute the lack of enforcement of some important things to the enforcement of other things, but it does seem like they're "squeezing the balloon" of limited resources, or maybe even going for the low-hanging fruit. Revenue-generation, example-making, and all that.
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Street racing should remain illegal. But catch the really egregious garang ones like those guys at Orchard Gudang mixing it up with "innocent traffic". Don't gun for these guys who are keeping it to the ulu places late at night and who don't put the innocent at risk. If and when you build a track in Singapore, I'll say you can go all out and catch people, but until then, a little restraint can be shown.
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Can't praise you, but so true!
Fever easy to treat..... psychological problems harder to treat... just saying
cfm is no take fever medicine..........
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Fever easy to treat..... psychological problems harder to treat... just saying
He confuse ppl until they ask to go buangkok hotel
That's why he ally
Looks like Jurong? Must be all that chemical rain and air.
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wasted! never take parang
drive until like that, must as well box the shit out of each other
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Yeah, sibhay anticlimax dio bo?
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I think LTA needs to replace Give Way lines with double humps and Stop Line with 5" high hump.
I also kena near IMM area along Boon Lay Way last week, BMW decided to rush out from filter lane even though I was about 5M away from him, true enough, the BMW scraped into my left rear side. His argument was that I should have stopped my car for him to exit and he didn't see any Give Way line.
dunno to cry or laugh...
No sound in the VCR, but my guess is the taxi must have horn at the VW when the VW filtered out into the main road. The road ahead of the VW �(lane 3) was cleared, why did he jammed his brake twice? I suppose he bay song tio horn, so did it on purpose. Anyway, the taxi waited for the VW to clear so far ahead before moving off, I think that was good enough, he didn't gave chase. But as he filtered right and most likely wanting to turn right into toh guan east road, see what the VW did, he purposely cut ahead dangerously to block the Taxi.
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The taxi never wait lah. Can see that the taxi driver got out from the taxi when the car stopped. Assume to confront the polo but it ran away instead. Noticed the jerk in the recording, its caused by closing of the car door. Those in car cameras using suction cups type of holder will experience such jerking motion more than those that uses double sided tape.
At least the taxi driver never swerve to the other lane like my incident. He braked and stopped in his own lane.
I think LTA needs to replace Give Way lines with double humps and Stop Line with 5" high hump.
I also kena near IMM area along Boon Lay Way last week, BMW decided to rush out from filter lane even though I was about 5M away from him, true enough, the BMW scraped into my left rear side. His argument was that I should have stopped my car for him to exit and he didn't see any Give Way line.
dunno to cry or laugh...
i wish these type of drivers get run over and die
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The taxi never wait lah. Can see that the taxi driver got out from the taxi when the car stopped. Assume to confront the polo but it ran away instead. Noticed the jerk in the recording, its caused by closing of the car door. Those in car cameras using suction cups type of holder will experience such jerking motion more than those that uses double sided tape.
At least the taxi driver never swerve to the other lane like my incident. He braked and stopped in his own lane.
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My point is, without the recording, taxi confirm is up lorry. Road condition dry, traffic moderate, traffic light red (i think), VW has come to stop already, and taxi bang direct from behind. But case in point is, there was an intention to cause an accident by the VW driver.
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I chose to differ....think the cab is a bad tempered driver(like most of us, maybe not u but me definitely, wifey complained that I become an angry man behind wheels
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I think LTA needs to replace Give Way lines with double humps and Stop Line with 5" high hump.
I also kena near IMM area along Boon Lay Way last week, BMW decided to rush out from filter lane even though I was about 5M away from him, true enough, the BMW scraped into my left rear side. His argument was that I should have stopped my car for him to exit and he didn't see any Give Way line.
dunno to cry or laugh...
For this type of accident, the insurance company for the cab will contest in court for a lower liability. Both lawyers will fight it out. I suspect the liability will be 50/50, reason being the VW has stopped repeatedly in a rash manner with the intention to cause accident. I won't be surprised if VW driver suffers higher liability to be honest if the judge reviews the whole recording.
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As a very objective third-party who just viewed the recording 5 min ago, I hope the VW gets higher liability.
For this type of accident, the insurance company for the cab will contest in court for a lower liability. Both lawyers will fight it out. I suspect the liability will be 50/50, reason being the VW has stopped repeatedly in a rash manner with the intention to cause accident. I won't be surprised if VW driver suffers higher liability to be honest if the judge reviews the whole recording.
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As a very objective third-party who just viewed the recording 5 min ago, I hope the VW gets higher liability.
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totally agree! �Bloody VW driver shd be like that ahpui, licence gantong....nb
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I hope the VW driver suffers something else. Oops, I need to go confession tomorrow liao. Your fault lah
I think LTA needs to replace Give Way lines with double humps and Stop Line with 5" high hump.
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I also kena near IMM area along Boon Lay Way last week, BMW decided to rush out from filter lane even though I was about 5M away from him, true enough, the BMW scraped into my left rear side. His argument was that I should have stopped my car for him to exit and he didn't see any Give Way line.
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I was waiting at the slip road along Ulu Pandan Road into Clementi, a tipper truck tried to squeeze through and side wipe my car. I bo tai bo chi kena and insurance said 50/50 as the driver may claim that I cut into his lane and he cannot siam me. WTF.
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I hope the VW driver suffers something else. Oops, I need to go confession tomorrow liao. Your fault lah
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Vratenza bring his 7 flower water and dunno what water he has....
This action also experience more jerking motion than those who do not....
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The taxi never wait lah. Can see that the taxi driver got out from the taxi when the car stopped. Assume to confront the polo but it ran away instead. Noticed the jerk in the recording, its caused by closing of the car door. Those in car cameras using suction cups type of holder will experience such jerking motion more than those that uses double sided tape.
At least the taxi driver never swerve to the other lane like my incident. He braked and stopped in his own lane.
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i go east coast park lagoon hawker centre buy coconut water from my favourite coconut supplier
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that's the issue..............his is psychological fever............he always need ppl to remind him take medicine.............then he feel song...........after that he will become normal liao.............
can tell us the insurance outcome or fella prefer private settlement.
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70+ year old man... refused to exchange particulars and had no intention to give me his contact number and name until I 'strongly encouraged' him to do so. anyway, workshop says $250 for paint work, I decided to let it go since left less than 12 months to this car's life. I reported to my insurance and specifically said no claims unless kena b**tard.
I hope you were driving your elephant!
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no lah... the scoob is my B&B.
if elephant most like rim scratched and the BMW will most likely get more than a dented in front bumper.
GVGT .... I just installed a video cam for my car for obvious reason.
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I was waiting at the slip road along Ulu Pandan Road into Clementi, a tipper truck tried to squeeze through and side wipe my car. I bo tai bo chi kena and insurance said 50/50 as the driver may claim that I cut into his lane and he cannot siam me. WTF.
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damn suay bro... �but if you were waiting your car should be stationary... did you explicitly indicate that in your accident report?
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Hope your insurance got do the necessary leg work.
70+ year old man... refused to exchange particulars and had no intention to give me his contact number and name until I 'strongly encouraged' him to do so. anyway, workshop says $250 for paint work, I decided to let it go since left less than 12 months to this car's life. I reported to my insurance and specifically said no claims unless kena b**tard.
no lah... the scoob is my B&B.
if elephant most like rim scratched and the BMW will most likely get more than a dented in front bumper.
Old farts think they big fark.
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70+ year old man... refused to exchange particulars and had no intention to give me his contact number and name until I 'strongly encouraged' him to do so. anyway, workshop says $250 for paint work, I decided to let it go since left less than 12 months to this car's life. I reported to my insurance and specifically said no claims unless kena b**tard.
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no lah... the scoob is my B&B.
if elephant most like rim scratched and the BMW will most likely get more than a dented in front bumper.
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polo finally met someone that taught him to realise the outcome of suck needless act.
totally agree! Bloody VW driver shd be like that ahpui, licence gantong....nb
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me second you.
I'm likely in the minority on this, and I'm probably gonna get flamed and possibly "disliked" - that's OK - just remember to leave your name and not be an anonymous coward about it, I won't bite back.
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But I don't agree with this relentless persecution of street racing. Yes, it's illegal. But if they're doing it away from other earthly traffic at ungodly hours on a deserted road, who, other than themselves (and possibly willing participants/spectators) are they really putting at risk?�
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The TP are diverting resources to catching people at ungodly hours like these in addition to putting people on bridges (and yes, they do this to catch non-racing speeders on empty roads in the wee hours too). Meanwhile, road hazards during rush hour are allowed to continue - dangerously overloaded trucks, weaving and lane-splitting bikes, irresponsible pedestrians, cyclists and e-cyclists. I know it's fallacious to attribute the lack of enforcement of some important things to the enforcement of other things, but it does seem like they're "squeezing the balloon" of limited resources, or maybe even going for the low-hanging fruit. Revenue-generation, example-making, and all that.
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Street racing should remain illegal. But catch the really egregious garang ones like those guys at Orchard Gudang mixing it up with "innocent traffic". Don't gun for these guys who are keeping it to the ulu places late at night and who don't put the innocent at risk. If and when you build a track in Singapore, I'll say you can go all out and catch people, but until then, a little restraint can be shown.
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OK, flame away.
Somehow, I agree with your comments, there are simply too many reckless motorists on the road nowadays and basically, practice defensive driving is the SOP for those sharing the roads with them! You will never know when you will encounter them even you drive safe!
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1. Parents of such racers will kpkb why never intervene or conduct checks or prevent blah blah blah.....
2. These racers are likely to bring the fun to the next level... Street racings for more kicks and funner
3. Introduce more opportunities for gang related activities ie gambling and drinking and fights when poor losers are born. Then more trouble with having to look for killer(s) or missing face or limbs.
4. Encourage more illegal mods until Transformers also no chance
The kids of today are pretty useless... Because of useless parents of this generation. They leave the upbringing stuff to maids and everything that can go wrong goes wrong, they blame others and then migrate (thank God).jam brake and jam brake...haiz�
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He might not learn if the insurance company decides to fault the taxi driver instead. Got to hope that he can't claim against the taxi driver and still get charged by TP.
Turboflat4, the problem is allowing such illegal racing at quiet, secluded places have the following issues, real, imagined or waiting to happen or still in movie scripts or in movies :
1. Parents of such racers will kpkb why never intervene or conduct checks or prevent blah blah blah.....
2. These racers are likely to bring the fun to the next level... Street racings for more kicks and funner
3. Introduce more opportunities for gang related activities ie gambling and drinking and fights when poor losers are born. Then more trouble with having to look for killer(s) or missing face or limbs.
4. Encourage more illegal mods until Transformers also no chance
The kids of today are pretty useless... Because of useless parents of this generation. They leave the upbringing stuff to maids and everything that can go wrong goes wrong, they blame others and then migrate (thank God). �
I take a humorous view and will be a flame b4 you... � the pressure is mine.
Seriously, it is not something I personally am for. If they have more sense and burning desire to race please go to a safer place like racetracks. At the end of the day, why is a simple and easy way to do so not used?
Thanks for sharing your views. It's always refreshing and usually out of the law... I mean the norm type. You lead a fulfilling life... Kudos to that.
Safe ride
Cheers
With regard to racetracks, why do we still not have a single one, not even a dragstrip, but we have too damn many golf courses? I know the old fogeys in white love to waste their lives away on the green, but some of us prefer to waste our lives on the Green Hell. Or at least a local equivalent, watered down as it may be. I think there's definitely demand. As I said, once it's built, there will br absolutely no more excuse for any sort of public street racing or speed trials. There is room, by the way. CEC is frequently used for car events, they can just make it a dedicated setup. And there are even better options in the really ulu places.
(Don't talk about Malaysia, that's another country, we need one *here*).
Driver jin saki, kanna hit big time lao, both still can continue driving like nothing happened. Haha..
Parental Guidance or Pasir Gudang..
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Why will someone change lane like that???
think he was trying to swerve to the next lane so he could avoid rear-ending the car in front of him.
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but he ended up hitting a motorcyclist
think he was trying to swerve to the next lane so he could avoid rear-ending the car in front of him.
but he ended up hitting a motorcyclist
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Why will someone change lane like that???
Last minute lane change without checking blind spot.
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Huh .... really can't see the plates clearly. Maybe heat from the tarmac or camera not suitable for such weather. Care to share which camera so that ppl can avoid getting it. LOL, just joking.
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Lol. Just avoid those no brand ones. Mine is a free gift. No brand. Box only write HD car dvr.
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Such sudden change! See ghost infront, is it?
Hope the motorcyclist is ok... Got to claim from this driver !
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tats an S2000 right?
Taxi again..... I really do hope it is because of their significantly higher road presence rather than inherent problem with taxi driver skills and mentality.
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I am quite lucky as just about 50m behind the taxi when accident happen !
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i suspect the heat distort the distance between the lens vs the CCD sensors. Thereby altering the focus point on the CCD causing the phenomenon.
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Huh .... really can't see the plates clearly. Maybe heat from the tarmac or camera not suitable for such weather. Care to share which camera so that ppl can avoid getting it. LOL, just joking.
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dangerous driving... blood going to wrong head cannot think properly
Either passenger is dehydrated or she needs nourishment badly...
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dangerous driving... blood going to wrong head cannot think properly
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chiong some more lah�
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Civic ESI - V TEC dam powerful
Either passenger is dehydrated or she needs nourishment badly...
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If this is in Singapore, then we now know why there are hoggers on Lane 1 and why Lane 2 are always filled with trucks and other big vehicles!�
In that split second, he had to decide to move left or right. I guess he was hoping that the taxi driver stopped his car then the civic will zoomed past on the left.
The taxi should not just chiong out followed the car in front of him. He never checked properly before turning...
Actually I do feel taxi at fault.
Don't think he hogging lah, that stretch is the part where traffic from Telok Blangah Road all try to join the upramp to Keppel Viaduct from the extreme left of the 4 lane section. As the section is relatively short, a lot of them takes on more risky lane filtering manoeuvre �in order to make it to the right most lane in time.
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From the video all those who seem to be "overtaking" are in fact from the left most lane from Telok Blangah Road
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Hahaha...Bro Karlzeiss...what car you driving ? How come every car want to overtake you?�
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Actually, if the civic just keep to his lane instead of swerving left, he would have made it even at that high speed also. I guess he panicked and didn't know what to do. Swerve left already then realise cannot make it so jam brake but the wheels locked up and couldn't swerve back to the right lane.
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My guess (guess only hor) is the Civic was traveling at high speed on the right lane. Then the Estima was cruising at 55km/h also on the right lane which made the Civic filtered from the right to left. The Civic wanted to move back to the right lane but the Taxi came out. So at that point, he decided to move back to the left hoping that the Taxi would stopped. Guess that was why the Civic didnt brake until it was too late.�
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As for the taxi, based on assumption again, he didnt really see the Civic because it could have been blocked by the Estima and until it was too late. Based on the two car cam video, it sure looked like a gloomy day. So gloomy day, f&f black colored car, the taxi turning busy looking out for the car turning in front of him and wanting to rush across.... accident
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Another thing I noticed was the second cam car. It was moving off from the bus bay and made the Civic moved to the right lane to avoid it just in case it came out the bay without checking.
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On hindsight, the Civic should have just brake the moment he saw the taxi. He could have stopped in time... �
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(p.s. There was a mandatory give way to bus exiting from the bay - probably that was also one of the reason he was drifting from left to right)
30%/70%, civic take most of the blame?
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Not sure. For me, I will give 50/50 or most blame to the Taxi for failure to look out for cars. But I will fine the Civic jialat jialat for excessive speed...
Mod engine.. mod suspension...mod exhaust....... end up did not mod the brakes and most importantly forgot to mod his driving skills.
chiong some more lah�
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Sometime drive Too Long on the road will be a bit numb and body take over... Think this is what happen...
Actually I do feel taxi at fault.�
Of course, on hindsight, we can say anything. At the point in time, I probably will also try to accelerate when i see a car coming straight at me.�
Road hog spotted.
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not road hog lah, there is only one lane going up the keppel�viaduct, all vehicle have to start filter in early cos you never know how soon the jam going to start queuing up.
There are 2 lanes to access Keppel up-ramp from day 1 leh.
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Don't think he hogging lah, that stretch is the part where traffic from Telok Blangah Road all try to join the upramp to Keppel Viaduct from the extreme left of the 4 lane section. As the section is relatively short, a lot of them takes on more risky lane filtering manoeuvre �in order to make it to the right most lane in time.
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From the video all those who seem to be "overtaking" are in fact from the left most lane from Telok Blangah Road
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Nope. There are 2 lanes now.
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not road hog lah, there is only one lane going up the keppel�viaduct, all vehicle have to start filter in early cos you never know how soon the jam going to start queuing up.
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There are 2 lanes to access Keppel up-ramp from day 1 leh.
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Nope. There are 2 lanes now.
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i see now, but i remember it used to be one lane long ago, i hardly use this road but i know the jam can start even before it come down from the viaduct above harbourfront.
i see now, but i remember it used to be one lane long ago, i hardly use this road but i know the jam can start even before it come down from the viaduct above harbourfront.
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i also remember used to be 1 lane and everyone kiasu. dont travel from that area much now, but good to know got 2 lanes liao
Its not VW polo lah, is golf.
Today Straits Times also report as Polo.
Cut and paste journalism. Haha ...
Road hog spotted.
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I wouldn't call it roadhog lah bro... I'd say very cautious driver and judging by the way the cars filtering right are macam in a rush, there's cause to behave this way. But if all traffic going straight (e.g. expressway) then maybe slight hog. Piglet maybe.
Why will someone change lane like that???
Change lane like trying to take out the motorcyclist. Kokanathan!
Today Straits Times also report as Polo.
Cut and paste journalism. Haha ...�
MCF information credible mah.
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Duckduck, I think it is not what it seems to be.
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Because the guy did not place�1 hand on the girl's head or tidying her hair. Natural reaction no?
literally................"shear driving pleasure"
He better not jam brake.
Duckduck, I think it is not what it seems to be.
Because the guy did not place 1 hand on the girl's head or tidying her hair. Natural reaction no?
In the first place ... Confirm its girl meh ?i see now, but i remember it used to be one lane long ago, i hardly use this road but i know the jam can start even before it come down from the viaduct above harbourfront.
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It was 1 lane all the while...............only until as recent as last year I think...........then it was wider to 2 lane...............after they added an extra lane to the road............
TP must award the front passenger for still using her seat belt while cumming under strenuous circumstances.....
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It was 1 lane all the while...............only until as recent as last year I think...........then it was wider to 2 lane...............after they added an extra lane to the road............
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that explain why everyone rushing to filter into lane 1, cos all still thinking only 1 lane only �
that explain why everyone rushing to filter into lane 1, cos all still thinking only 1 lane only �
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this area is always very messy one lor..............
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I wouldn't call it roadhog lah bro... I'd say very cautious driver and judging by the way the cars filtering right are macam in a rush, there's cause to behave this way. But if all traffic going straight (e.g. expressway) then maybe slight hog. Piglet maybe.
Actually, if he stay in the right lane, he wouldn't have hit the taxi even if he never slow down. Can taxi driver argue the driver purposely aim his taxi? Lol.
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Btw, The black car is a Honda? I thought should have ABS. Or he never maintain his car properly and ABS fail?
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Taxi so badly damaged. The black car must have been going really fast.
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Looks like a brake bias or wheel alignment issue.
failing to keep up with traffic flow = road hog in a way.
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Bro Karlzeiss should consider the second lane because many cars will try to go straight to the first lane.
Bro thanks for the feedback.
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With hindsight I should have stick to lane 2 since I was trying to be very caution during rush hour on this stretch of road. That is also the reason I shared this video hoping to create some awareness on the road condition in this area -especially this is not the first time i encountered such situation on this road except that this was the closest to being an accident.
Maybe this one......
SpoilerI thought I see bra lines leh.. anyway could still be a trans or guy
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As for the taxi, based on assumption again, he didnt really see the Civic because it could have been blocked by the Estima and until it was too late.�
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Actually, if he stay in the right lane, he wouldn't have hit the taxi even if he never slow down. Can taxi driver argue the driver purposely aim his taxi? Lol.
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Btw, The black car is a Honda? I thought should have ABS. Or he never maintain his car properly and ABS fail?
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Taxi so badly damaged. The black car must have been going really fast.
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Er ........ more like honda man 100% leh ........
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Speeding, Dangerous Driving, Reckless Driving and the USUAL .......NEVER SLOW DOWN/STOP when coming to a junction.
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The impact is so great, the taxi turn 180 degree lor ...... - ALL wheel alignment finished.
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If got injuries and police case, sure big big time.
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30%/70%, civic take most of the blame?
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Maybe car no power.. Want to accelerate also cannot?
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Er ........ more like honda man 100% leh ........
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The impact is so great, the taxi turn 180 degree lor ...... - ALL wheel alignment finished.
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I don't think that constitutes as a junction, though civic could face reckless driving charge.
Nope, Taxi will take majority of the blame. Civic's speed cannot be 100% determined, even with video.
Video does not show any recklessness on Civic's part. No weaving in/out, no dangerous lane cutting, just maybe going quicker than normal. But again, the speed cannot be 100% determined.
Even if the Civic was going fast, the fast driving did NOT cause the accident, it might have contributed as a factor, but the accident was entirely caused by Taxi driver's misjudgement and turning without checking for traffic.
Also, Taxi is turning while Civic going straight, it is also not a traffic junction, onus is on the taxi driver to check clear,�Taxi driver will take majority of fault. $10 bet.�
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Also, Taxi is turning while Civic going straight, it is also not a traffic junction, onus is on the taxi driver to check clear,�Taxi driver will take majority of fault. $10 bet.�
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majority mean above 50%?
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Edited by Mockngbrd, 19 July 2016 - 11:47 AM.
Nope, Taxi will take majority of the blame. Civic's speed cannot be 100% determined, even with video.
Video does not show any recklessness on Civic's part. No weaving in/out, no dangerous lane cutting, just maybe going quicker than normal. But again, the speed cannot be 100% determined.
Even if the Civic was going fast, the fast driving did NOT cause the accident, it might have contributed as a factor, but the accident was entirely caused by Taxi driver's misjudgement and turning without checking for traffic.
Also, Taxi is turning while Civic going straight, it is also not a traffic junction, onus is on the taxi driver to check clear,�Taxi driver will take majority of fault. $10 bet.��
Taxi so suay ah? but based on video, cannot determine that civic is speeding? and on two lane road, that speed can be considered reckless?
Taxi so suay ah? but based on video, cannot determine that civic is speeding? and on two lane road, that speed can be considered reckless?
Yes civic can be shown as speeding, but actual speed cannot be 100% determined, unless you think mata/insuran going to wanna spend $$$$$$$ csi the video, in most likelihood, they'll just make the taxi driver jiak the liability unless taxi driver got $$$ to fight.
Taxi turning without checking is clear cut in the video, speed of the Civic is not.�
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taxi lao made a bad call. Haiz....
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Let see if honda airbag triggered lor,� if working,� airbag is armed after 45km/h.
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The video cam car also at speed limit laaaa....... or faster ..... heee ...... Let also measure street lamp spacing ah .....
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Yes civic can be shown as speeding, but actual speed cannot be 100% determined, unless you think mata/insuran going to wanna spend $$$$$$$ csi the video, in most likelihood, they'll just make the taxi driver jiak the liability unless taxi driver got $$$ to fight.
Taxi turning without checking is clear cut in the video, speed of the Civic is not.�
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Mazda 3 leh... where got no power?
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I don't think that constitutes as a junction, though civic could face reckless driving charge.
Yes civic can be shown as speeding, but actual speed cannot be 100% determined, and speeding action did not cause the accident. Taxi turning without checking caused it.�
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I agree with your last statement as I am always guilty of both, thus my own personal interest.
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The authorities will judge according to the cause and effect of this case, which the cause is Civic speeding and Taxi turning without due consideration, effect of course is the accident.
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So they will look at why the Civic is driving faster than the video speed of 53km/h(+/-), on a 2 lane road, speed limit probably 50-60km/h.
The higher the speed difference, the higher the responsibility of the Civic, that's what I assume.
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I do not foresee the taxi taking larger share of the blame, regardless, because no.1 it is obvious Civic is speeding, no.2 Civic changed lane without signalling and no.3 if the authorities decides that if a person was jaywalking instead of a taxi turning, what would have been the consequences? I doubt Civic would be let off easy.
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Where got airbag? After-market light weight momo steering wheel on airbag one....
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The video cam car also at speed limit laaaa....... or faster ..... heee ...... Let also measure street lamp spacing ah .....
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That Honda driver is a nut case for driving at that speed along that stretch of road.� I always use that road whenever i visit my in-laws.� I would always drive cautiously at no more than 50km/h
Nope, Taxi will take majority of the blame. Civic's speed cannot be 100% determined, even with video.
Video does not show any recklessness on Civic's part. No weaving in/out, no dangerous lane cutting, just maybe going quicker than normal. But again, the speed cannot be 100% determined.
Even if the Civic was going fast, the fast driving did NOT cause the accident, it might have contributed as a factor, but the accident was entirely caused by Taxi driver's misjudgement and turning without checking for traffic.
Also, Taxi is turning while Civic going straight, it is also not a traffic junction, onus is on the taxi driver to check clear,�Taxi driver will take majority of fault. $10 bet.��
I still think taxi can push around 70% blame to the civic la. Their lawyer very good one. Seen taxi get out of getting 100% blame from rear end accident before also. If only got the first video from the car in the bus bay, hard for taxi driver to argue. But now with the new video from the car being overtaken by the civic, taxi can argue it was clear and he know can clear cuz civic was going to right lane but how he know the civic decided to change his path and aim for his taxi after he took the turn. The video does show clearly that if the civic did not change lanes so suddenly without signalling, he wouldn't have hit the taxi.
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This Taxi the side very hard one leh. My dad ever drove this as a relief and t-boned by a bus that ran red light. Damage also not as bad as this even though the bus never even brake.
My guess (guess only hor) is the Civic was traveling at high speed on the right lane. Then the Estima was cruising at 55km/h also on the right lane which made the Civic filtered from the right to left. The Civic wanted to move back to the right lane but the Taxi came out. So at that point, he decided to move back to the left hoping that the Taxi would stopped. Guess that was why the Civic didnt brake until it was too late.�
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As for the taxi, based on assumption again, he didnt really see the Civic because it could have been blocked by the Estima and until it was too late. Based on the two car cam video, it sure looked like a gloomy day. So gloomy day, f&f black colored car, the taxi turning busy looking out for the car turning in front of him and wanting to rush across.... accident
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Another thing I noticed was the second cam car. It was moving off from the bus bay and made the Civic moved to the right lane to avoid it just in case it came out the bay without checking.
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Not sure. For me, I will give 50/50 or most blame to the Taxi for failure to look out for cars. But I will fine the Civic jialat jialat for excessive speed...
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Nowadays they don't teach drivers where to swerve if really got to avoid an accident? My driving instructor did tell me that if really going to t-bone someone, best it to aim for the rear of their car at the boot area cuz that part won't be as hard as the middle or the front.�
Luckily no major injuries on this kind of bang ...
imo, both are losers ... cannot use cars and gonna have high premiums liao ..
Nope, Taxi will take majority of the blame. Civic's speed cannot be 100% determined, even with video.
Video does not show any recklessness on Civic's part. No weaving in/out, no dangerous lane cutting, just maybe going quicker than normal. But again, the speed cannot be 100% determined.
Even if the Civic was going fast, the fast driving did NOT cause the accident, it might have contributed as a factor, but the accident was entirely caused by Taxi driver's misjudgement and turning without checking for traffic.
Also, Taxi is turning while Civic going straight, it is also not a traffic junction, onus is on the taxi driver to check clear,�Taxi driver will take majority of fault. $10 bet.��
1. Based on the clip, I would say Civic's speed is about 10 to 15 km/h faster than the cam car. So if cam car is driving at 50, then civic maybe around 65.�
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1. Based on the clip, I would say Civic's speed is about 10 to 15 km/h faster than the cam car. So if cam car is driving at 50, then civic maybe around 65.
2. The taxi driver made a bad call. He took for granted there will be no car speeding that fast and assume cars going straight will slow down a bit when he is turning.
3. Civic's driving skill not as good as it should be.
I won't turn with such little allowance.
Wa bro, your malayu power sia. I only know jika anda... something something.. sembilan sembilan sembilan
The lawyer for the Civic can also argue that his client had to change lane in the last second to avoid the Taxi and that the Taxi shouldnt have make the turn. Upon seeing a (fast) car approaching should just stop
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too impatient la people. nth to do with the car. they expect me to hard accelerate 24/7 sia ... lol
i'm actually with Mockngbrd on this...
even IF the civic is speeding
even IF the civic is heavily modified
even IF the civic undertake the car cam
the onus is on the taxi driver to be ALERT, drive defensively. if you see a speeding car, or you know your lau pok chia cannot make it, why you still wanna attempt? the taxi driver failed to practise defensive driving ... when in doubt, DONT MOVE. wait for traffic to be clear if no confidence. he is turning from a minor to major, he has to give way regardless ... even driving instruction will say, "turn when it is SAFE to do so"... when you see a "speeding" car ... why risk it to save a few seconds.
The question here is: Did the taxi driver see he oncoming civic? If he did, why did he move? If he did not, why did he move?
On another note, did the taxi driver see he oncoming civic? If he did, why did he move? If he did not, why did he move?
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most probably he only looked once when the car in front took the turn, that was when the civic was still further from the bus stop. By the time for him to make a turn, he probably assume the civic is not speeding or intend to slow down where the cam car was only at the bus stop.
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most probably he only looked once when the car in front took the turn, that was when the civic was still further from the bus stop. By the time for him to make a turn, he probably assume the civic is not speeding or intend to slow down where the cam car was only at the bus stop.
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I throw my 20 cent coin into the taxi at fault pool. Failing to give way etc etc
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If you cannot filter out safely it means you did not take into consideration the conditions of the vehicles on the main road notwithstanding the civic was most definitely speeding.
70/30 if I can apportion.
One thing is the type of "gar gar chut" taxi drivers....alot of them.
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By virtue of the common age and propensity for many health-related issues for this vocation, �another contributing factor is poor depth/perspective judgement, lousy eyesight, poor reaction timing. Some of these uncle, eyesight not good also don't want to get them corrected. Corrected liao also reaction time habis. Combine all 3 and you have a recipe for disaster.
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The worst thing is, all of them don't have good self awareness. Just because they spend alot of time on the road they think they are god of driving.
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One anyhow chiong civic meet self-deluded god of driving with almost handicapped level of driving skills.......
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I am with Mockngbrd Spawn and Fireball0088 on this. The primary cause of the accident was the taxi crossing the path of the Civic. The taxi should have yielded. We learn when turning right across traffic, give way to on coming vehicles. It does not have any other clauses such as unless it is speeding, or a modded civic or driven by an a**hole. You just give way.
The question here is: Did the taxi driver see he oncoming civic? If he did, why did he move? If he did not, why did he move?�
This accident would not have happened if (1) taxi had not turned so late, and/or (2) the civic�had not sped so fast on the 2nd lane (sometimes people wrongly assume left laners are slow coach).�
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I say both are liable for damages. Maybe more to the taxi, but I'm not the judge and�never intended to become one.
agreed accident started by the taxi for not keeping a proper lookout... �
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but this one i dare say i can avoid.. becoz i would zham brake when i see him turning out.. �and then all the profanities will fly out...�
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not like the little boy and BMW case...�
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i think to skewer the liability more to the taxi seems unfair...�
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if the accident happened in lane 1.. �i think FAIR... �taxi shld kenna more.. �but.. lane 2... tad open for debate.. best let insurers settle...�
This accident would not have happened if (1) taxi had not turned so late, and/or (2) the civic had not sped so fast on the 2nd lane (sometimes people wrongly assume left laners are slow coach).
I say both are liable for damages. Maybe more to the taxi, but I'm not the judge and never intended to become one.
Yes but this accident would also have happened if (2a) the civic was travelling within speed limit. Imagine yourself as the civic driver driving safely, defensively and the MCF way when the taxi decided to cross your path last minute. Still bang.
Perhaps the severity of damage might not be as bad but that is another matter for the judge to think about. Which is not you.that is assuming Vehicle Y is driving sanely and responsibly right?
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That's when the lawyers from both insurers come in to cho gang to justify their cases liao.
that is assuming Vehicle Y is driving sanely and responsibly right?
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bro it says the turning car should exercise greater care in turning ... gotta use common sense.
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you know the old saying ... "if you see one fool, dont let there be two."
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if he is rushing to meet his maker / RadX, please let him be on his way without getting one's self involved
BOLA chart scenario 2. Even if honda was deemed to be speeding, taxi still takes majority of the blame.
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Bro, these days seldom got 100/0% apportionment, unless 1 vehicle is going against the flow of traffic..
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Just realized nobody posted the mandatory honda meme yet so here goes....
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yeah lah... what I am saying is that that is the basis we start from.... that is 100% fault from the taxi and the percentages will be reduced from there based on other circumstances of the case
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bro it says the turning car should exercise greater care in turning ... gotta use common sense.
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you know the old saying ... "if you see one fool, dont let there be two."
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if he is rushing to meet his maker / RadX, please let him be on his way without getting one's self involved
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Bro, these days seldom got 100/0% apportionment, unless 1 vehicle is going against the flow of traffic..
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got other scenario lah.
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get hit by drunk driver�
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100% in your "favour".�(and 100% from your pocket haha)
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trust me, i know. lol
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that is assuming Vehicle Y is driving sanely and responsibly right?
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yeah lah... what I am saying is that that is the basis we start from.... that is 100% fault from the taxi and the percentages will be reduced from there based on other circumstances of the case
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Makes sense... so in this case, start at 100% for taxi and reduce to account for the Honda's crazy speed... but won't reduce culpability that much I think.
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I think pity that when they apportion the percentage... the taxi will end up taking most of the blame. But that's the law I guess.
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The few times I've taken transcab taxis, I've noticed the drivers are somewhat old... a cousin doing projects for them also said they are more inclusive and tend to hire oldies and disabled people more.
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Feel sorry for the taxi driver... me having a soft spot for oldies and such...�
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Edited by ins1dious, 19 July 2016 - 03:40 PM.
I just remembered another case... the Si Gi Nah without license drove car, made a similar turn and whack into a motorcycle and subsequently a taxi that was going straight. The pillion, single mother of 2 died on the spot.
got other scenario lah.
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Makes sense... so in this case, start at 100% for taxi and reduce to account for the Honda's crazy speed... but won't reduce culpability that much I think.
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I think pity that when they apportion the percentage... the taxi will end up taking most of the blame. But that's the law I guess.
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The few times I've taken transcab taxis, I've noticed the drivers are somewhat old... a cousin doing projects for them also said they are more inclusive and tend to hire oldies and disabled people more.
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Feel sorry for the taxi driver... me having a soft spot for oldies and such...�
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wonder if we can get stats for the average age of taxi drivers...�
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Transcab also hire those rejected by comfort. I went to their office at defu before and they allow the drivers to pay rental by cash daily. Thats another good reason for old drivers to join them as most probably dont have a bank account and/or short on cash.�
To answer my own question...
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Notice Paper No.�76 of 2015 Question No. 214 For Written Answer For Parliament Sitting On Or After�5�March 2015�
MP: Ms Irene Ng Phek Hoong
To ask the Minister for Manpower (a) how many taxi drivers, including relief taxi drivers, are there currently; (b) of these, how many are active taxi drivers on the roads; � what is their (i) average annual salary; (ii) average educational qualification; (iii) age profile; and (d) how many have been formerly working in PMET jobs and switched to driving taxis.
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- As at December 2014, about 98,000 Singaporeans held a Taxi Driver�s Vocational Licence. About 56,000 of them were registered with taxi companies. The average net monthly earnings (less expenses) of taxi drivers in 2014 was $3,173 for a single-shift operation, and $5,933 for a two-shift operation.
- Of the employed resident taxi drivers in 20141, about 8 in 10 were aged 50 and above, and over 9 in 10 possessed non-tertiary educational qualifications. We do not have data on how many taxi drivers were formerly in PMET jobs.
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Looks like this is an old man's profession... guess I have to be more patient with them around.
It could have been avoided if the Civic braked instead of gunning for the gap in front of the Taxi.
the roof on driver side dented quite badly, likely driver kena head injuries
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Wah so jialat... how come the traffic light breakdown after the accident? Did it detect accident and auto shut off?
Today Straits Times also report as Polo.
Cut and paste journalism. Haha ...�
I am not surprised lah.
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Nowadays reporter just only know how to report without making any research on it, in the end making fool of themselves.�
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Is this something new with our traffic light. Got accident and immediately become hazard light for warning.. �Quite high tech stuff.
Wah so jialat... how come the traffic light breakdown after the accident? Did it detect accident and auto shut off?
You are sharp, did not notice it first time!
Persistent blinking lights means malfunction traffic lights? Possibly one of the traffic lights or the "control box" was hit by the vehicle during the accident, causing the "circuit" to malfunction.
Yes, in rollover seat belts minimise injuries.
Hope occupants ok.
Is this something new with our traffic light. Got accident and immediately become hazard light for warning.. �Quite high tech stuff.
If that's true, I'm impressed too!
But my guess is the control box kena smashed by the car liao...???
Is this something new with our traffic light. Got accident and immediately become hazard light for warning.. �Quite high tech stuff.
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Saw what happened. The Evo knocked down a traffic light at the centre divider causing the traffic lights to malfunction
Saw what happened. The Evo knocked down a traffic light at the centre divider causing the traffic lights to malfunction
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At a cross junction, green light in my direction of travel. A taxi bohue or bochap the red turn right arrow and happily made the turn and a white sedan happily followed suit.
Are we turning into a cowboy town with anything goes?
You can hear the impact and see the lights malfunction a split second before you see the car flipping over.
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Most likely the car lost control and hit the lights on its side causing it to ownself flip ownself .�
Just got back from my "school bus" ferry service in heavy downpour and witnessed this.
At a cross junction, green light in my direction of travel. A taxi bohue or bochap the red turn right arrow and happily made the turn and a white sedan happily followed suit.
Are we turning into a cowboy town with anything goes?
There are more and more of these drivers... Just be careful and drive safely ourselves ...
Just got back from my "school bus" ferry service in heavy downpour and witnessed this.
At a cross junction, green light in my direction of travel. A taxi bohue or bochap the red turn right arrow and happily made the turn and a white sedan happily followed suit.
Are we turning into a cowboy town with anything goes?
Got this same mz2 for my wife. �Driven it a few times and noticed it has very bad blind spots. �Not very well designed mirrors, pillars and passenger seat. �Glad you reacted well.
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Got this same mz2 for my wife. �Driven it a few times and noticed it has very bad blind spots. �Not very well designed mirrors, pillars and passenger seat. �Glad you reacted well.
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Knowing these blind spots, then one should jolly well turn and look to ensure that there are no vehicles before filtering
U used google translate?
Can you sort out your thoughts before typing them?�
Dont understand what he was trying to say....
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What is polis?
You can hear the impact and see the lights malfunction a split second before you see the car flipping over.
Most likely the car lost control and hit the lights on its side causing it to ownself flip ownself .
That goes without saying. �The pillars and seat are ill-designed too so less experienced drivers may not have checked their blind spot enough. � �
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Just wanna alert other drivers to be a bit little more careful and play it a little more safe when approaching this car type. �
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Knowing these blind spots, then one should jolly well turn and look to ensure that there are no vehicles before filtering
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I was expecting godzilla to emerge right after the car finished rolling..
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LL driver at Pasir Ris MSCP. Should have added some shit to it.
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What did this LL driver do?
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Putting a rubbish bin cover on the roof and the bin in front of the car is hardly a punishment.
Yet another 'open door and whack motorcyclist' incident. Hope the bike uncle is OK. Wasted his tar-pau kopi-O. First thing car driver did was continue wiping his door panel�
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SJS6034U also another impatient one. Turn left illegally instead of following the queue and turn left using the slip road.
That Honda driver is a nut case for driving at that speed along that stretch of road.� I always use that road whenever i visit my in-laws.� I would always drive cautiously at no more than 50km/h
Please keep to lane 2 for maximum 50km/hour
LL driver at Pasir Ris MSCP. Should have added some shit to it.
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Should have spread the contents of the bin on the car as well.
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Bike should not have cheong and try to beat the red light.
Obviously the biker fault.
What did this LL driver do?
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Putting a rubbish bin cover on the roof and the bin in front of the car is hardly a punishment.
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He park in the motorcycles lot
What did this LL driver do?
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Putting a rubbish bin cover on the roof and the bin in front of the car is hardly a punishment.
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What to do?� Complain to HDB, people say you can be more understanding or why you so f*. kpo?� �Smash car, you get charged for taking matters into your own hands because we are a civil society�and cannot condone hooliganism.
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So the obnoxious person wins liao lor.� Game theory also say better be obnoxious or else you will lose.
What to do?� Complain to HDB, people say you can be more understanding or why you so f*. kpo?� �Smash car, you get charged for taking matters into your own hands because we are a civil society�and cannot condone hooliganism.
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So the obnoxious person wins liao lor.� Game theory also say better be obnoxious or else you will lose.
nex time pcc on his door handle
nex time pcc on his door handle
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Omg this got to be the most ultimate !!!�
LL driver at Pasir Ris MSCP. Should have added some shit to it.
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Really inconsiderate to park at motorcycle lots ... oh well, he deserved the treatment ...
Luckily, never ganna wheel�clamp ....
30%/70%, civic take most of the blame?
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Taxi fail to give way should take more of the blame isn't it?�
eh..bro...how come 1st sentence you say you are not anybody's child....thus wan i confuse!Isis
�ish lyrics of a song?
ish lyrics of a song?
I'm nobody's child
I'm nobody's child
Nobody wants me
I'm nobody's child
I stopped in time, but still got pushed to hit the front car. How is it that it is always the front car claim the back car?
Will see how the insurance claiming goes.
Omg this got to be the most ultimate !!!�
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provided the pcc got STD materials in them.�
So the obnoxious person wins liao lor.� Game theory also say better be obnoxious or else you will lose.
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who dares, wins
who dares, wins
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Legalise guns please, pretty please.
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Drove past this morning, not sure how it happened..
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Drove past this morning, not sure how it happened..
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From this angle look like police car forced the bus up the kerb haha
nex time pcc on his door handle
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Lol, what happens if we are still halfway through and someone sight us?
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LL driver at Pasir Ris MSCP. Should have added some shit to it.
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This is really inconsiderate, i wonder what is on the driver's mind when they park into the lots meant for motorbikes...
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Drove past this morning, not sure how it happened..
Sorry no video. But car in front stopped suddenly on a clear road (presumably to look at which way to go), and forced me to jam brake. I am inches away from hitting. Then Whamp! And Whamp! Chain collision. My car was pushed forward to dent the bumper of the front car, twice. Total 5 cars involved. I heard from workshop that it is ALWAYS the back car fault. So the one in front who stopped suddenly on a clear road will claim my insurance.
I stopped in time, but still got pushed to hit the front car. How is it that it is always the front car claim the back car?
Will see how the insurance claiming goes.�
No video then cannot prove what you said is true.....
In chain collision, as long as you are not the last car.� You are OK.
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The claim procedure is "very standard". You are better off to go A-WS for repair lor. As you will be assign a portion of the total liability.
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Last car ownself claim ownself lor.
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For your case, just claim the car behind lor. And you don't have to pay excess.
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I also kenna before.� But Income released me of all liability lor.� ????
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Sorry no video. But car in front stopped suddenly on a clear road (presumably to look at which way to go), and forced me to jam brake. I am inches away from hitting. Then Whamp! And Whamp! Chain collision. My car was pushed forward to dent the bumper of the front car, twice. Total 5 cars involved. I heard from workshop that it is ALWAYS the back car fault. So the one in front who stopped suddenly on a clear road will claim my insurance.
I stopped in time, but still got pushed to hit the front car. How is it that it is always the front car claim the back car?
Will see how the insurance claiming goes.�
Sorry no video. But car in front stopped suddenly on a clear road (presumably to look at which way to go), and forced me to jam brake. I am inches away from hitting. Then Whamp! And Whamp! Chain collision. My car was pushed forward to dent the bumper of the front car, twice. Total 5 cars involved. I heard from workshop that it is ALWAYS the back car fault. So the one in front who stopped suddenly on a clear road will claim my insurance.
I stopped in time, but still got pushed to hit the front car. How is it that it is always the front car claim the back car?
Will see how the insurance claiming goes.�
That's why must learn to multitask.
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Fcuk the car in front with horn (hold it as long as possible) while step on brake.
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Sorry no video. But car in front stopped suddenly on a clear road (presumably to look at which way to go), and forced me to jam brake. I am inches away from hitting. Then Whamp! And Whamp! Chain collision. My car was pushed forward to dent the bumper of the front car, twice. Total 5 cars involved. I heard from workshop that it is ALWAYS the back car fault. So the one in front who stopped suddenly on a clear road will claim my insurance.
I stopped in time, but still got pushed to hit the front car. How is it that it is always the front car claim the back car?
Will see how the insurance claiming goes.�
if can prove no car �in front and jammed brake for no reason, scam is the word.
Sorry no video. But car in front stopped suddenly on a clear road (presumably to look at which way to go), and forced me to jam brake. I am inches away from hitting. Then Whamp! And Whamp! Chain collision. My car was pushed forward to dent the bumper of the front car, twice. Total 5 cars involved. I heard from workshop that it is ALWAYS the back car fault. So the one in front who stopped suddenly on a clear road will claim my insurance.
I stopped in time, but still got pushed to hit the front car. How is it that it is always the front car claim the back car?
Will see how the insurance claiming goes.Our insurance ruling is such ....last car insurance pay for everyone
Our insurance ruling is such ....last car insurance pay for everyone
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sure or not? last car pay for all the cars in front?
Edited by Jellandross, 21 July 2016 - 07:28 PM.
this happened on 17/7/2016 in South Korea.
three cars totally smashed, four people were killed.
Bus driver accused of falling asleep
1st car: Kia K5
2nd car: Audi Q5
3Rd car: Hyundai Sonata i45
4th car: Samsung SM5
5th car: BMW 5GT
From the other video of the accident, all car's, except for the 5GT, are total lost case. The impact is huge!OH.MY.GOD
sure or not? last car pay for all the cars in front?
Who pay for damages not important,Cars are very cheap in Korea,the worst part of this chain collision is lost of 4 persons
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No video then cannot prove what you said is true.....
In chain collision, as long as you are not the last car. You are OK.
The claim procedure is "very standard". You are better off to go A-WS for repair lor. As you will be assign a portion of the total liability.
Last car ownself claim ownself lor.
For your case, just claim the car behind lor. And you don't have to pay excess.
I also kenna before. But Income released me of all liability lor. ????
Also agree on better to go A-WS. On this, let me share for awareness. ... the workshop touts arrived swiftly to accident scene and make me very pissed off. Have to spend half my energy to ask them to **** off, while handling the situation (raining, 4 cars owners to exchange details, huge traffic jam). They are VERY persistant. I can understand, because I heard that they will receive 3k commission immediately by bringing victims to their friend's workshop. The touts got about 3 of the victims. If I have followed the tout and not gone to my insurance assigned premium workshop, I may not have gotten the right deals, including a replacement car.
Bro Appletree, did your NCD get affected? If so, how much? I wonder how u managed to be released of all liability. Thx
Our insurance ruling is such ....last car insurance pay for everyone
Just to add... something is not morally and technically sound regarding the front car claim back car rule in chain collision. It will not discourage illicit touts from workshop and bad driving habits (stop suddenly to change direction, view road signs or taxi pick up passenger). They all can do so with zero insurance and legal cost. DISAGREE!
If can prove front most car is at fault, all cars behind should claim that one car in front.
All get camera please.
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i wonder why the Altis driver wanted to open his door.??
to pui pui pui... My colleague got this bad habit.. I scolded him b4.. open car door to pui his spit.. knn..�
bro.. u heard of BOLA system not? now no such thing as last car pay all.. the rules has changed.. last car bear the highest liabliity will depend on how the accident happened..
Our insurance ruling is such ....last car insurance pay for everyone
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TP now cannot reply email asking us to submit video in VCR already. It's an outdated technology and now the last man standing also decided to throw the towel and stop production lao. Haha..
Then when loss Liao.. Front car expense load in second car... Then second car try to put the front loading and own car claim to the one behind... So on and so for....
So technically it's still last car bear whole cost if proven the last car is liable for all the rest of the accident...
I was involve in a chain collision before and I am the second car... Total 4 car... All I know is I am clear of liability for the first car damage and my own car damage.
Problem is even if they break suddenly... They will say why u tail gate... Didn't dollow safety distant.Was told that that's the previous old rule. New one is as per what one bro described above.
Just to add... something is not morally and technically sound regarding the front car claim back car rule in chain collision. It will not discourage illicit touts from workshop and bad driving habits (stop suddenly to change direction, view road signs or taxi pick up passenger). They all can do so with zero insurance and legal cost. DISAGREE!
If can prove front most car is at fault, all cars behind should claim that one car in front.
All get camera please.
I clearly remember it was VCD. Not VCR.
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TP now cannot reply email asking us to submit video in VCR already. It's an outdated technology and now the last man standing also decided to throw the towel and stop production lao. Haha..�
I clearly remember it was VCD. Not VCR.
Oops.. Psps..
Was told that that's the previous old rule. New one is as per what one bro described above.
Just to add... something is not morally and technically sound regarding the front car claim back car rule in chain collision. It will not discourage illicit touts from workshop and bad driving habits (stop suddenly to change direction, view road signs or taxi pick up passenger). They all can do so with zero insurance and legal cost. DISAGREE!
If can prove front most car is at fault, all cars behind should claim that one car in front.
All get camera please.�
I rem someone here did say that camera will promote bad driving behaviour.� I wonder what will he do in your situation despite having a 9 yr old car.
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Was told that that's the previous old rule. New one is as per what one bro described above.
Just to add... something is not morally and technically sound regarding the front car claim back car rule in chain collision. It will not discourage illicit touts from workshop and bad driving habits (stop suddenly to change direction, view road signs or taxi pick up passenger). They all can do so with zero insurance and legal cost. DISAGREE!
If can prove front most car is at fault, all cars behind should claim that one car in front.
All get camera please.�
The reasoning behind why the back car always at fault is because the front car could be stopping for any reason but it is the back car's responsibility to keep a safe distance to ensure that there is time to react and stop. There is no reason to rear-end someone unless the driver never keep safe distance.
The reasoning behind why the back car always at fault is because the front car could be stopping for any reason but it is the back car's responsibility to keep a safe distance to ensure that there is time to react and stop. There is no reason to rear-end someone unless the driver never keep safe distance.
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No wonder there are wonderful road hoggers who really ensure ample space in front of them
No wonder there are wonderful road hoggers who really ensure ample space in front of them
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If its a 2s gap, I don't think considered hogging unless its on the overtaking lane. The car infront is still a hogger if he doesn't give way to a car approaching fast, even if there is another hogger in front.
No wonder there are wonderful road hoggers who really ensure ample space in front of them
If its a 2s gap, I don't think considered hogging unless its on the overtaking lane. The car infront is still a hogger if he doesn't give way to a car approaching fast, even if there is another hogger in front.
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My case very straight forward lor ...... the moment I got out the car.
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a) Drivers A & B "seem" to know each other as their acting skill very poor. �Even TCS will not take them as carrefare.
b) Both are smiling. They are sure very happy that day.
c) Both refuse to provide full name, particulars, insurance or as per GIA Framework.
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I reported item c and d lor. Item a and b, no proof, no report. �You only reported things which you are in the know lor. �This report, very important as all parties can see and can be use as evidence in courts for you or against you. �So if judge find your essay very bad, then good luck lor.
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Lucky for me ??? Accident after 8 days into a new insurance cycle lor, because this type of case can pend a long time. �I got 1 year to settle lor. �I settle behind car within 2 weeks - I accept all offer anyhow lor. I very flexi one.
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By year end renewal, I notice the premium was actually cheaper than last year. �I tot Income made a mistake. �Then they said I was released from all liabilities lor. �Not reason given.
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I can take taxi everyday ....... heeeee ....... I took MRT.
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The 'very standard' and 'always front car claim back car' are what the A-WS told me too.
Also agree on better to go A-WS. On this, let me share for awareness. ... the workshop touts arrived swiftly to accident scene and make me very pissed off. Have to spend half my energy to ask them to **** off, while handling the situation (raining, 4 cars owners to exchange details, huge traffic jam). They are VERY persistant. I can understand, because I heard that they will receive 3k commission immediately by bringing victims to their friend's workshop. The touts got about 3 of the victims. If I have followed the tout and not gone to my insurance assigned premium workshop, I may not have gotten the right deals, including a replacement car.
Bro Appletree, did your NCD get affected? If so, how much? I wonder how u managed to be released of all liability. Thx�
The road hogger doesnt need to give way what, if based on what you said
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Err, English not your first language? In an accident, its the rear car's fault. He chose to take the risk and tailgate/don't keep safe distance. I don't see how keeping a safe distance is being a hogger. A hogger is someone that doesn't give way to a faster car behind. Nothing to do with safe distance or not.
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Err, English not your first language? In an accident, its the rear car's fault. He chose to take the risk and tailgate/don't keep safe distance. I don't see how keeping a safe distance is being a hogger. A hogger is someone that doesn't give way to a faster car behind. Nothing to do with safe distance or not.
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Yes you are right. But usually a road hogger will keep a big distance from the car in front, and doesnt really care what is going on behind him, becaue he knows that if anything, it is always the rear car's fault.�
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So? It still doesn't mean that a person who keeps a safe distance is a hogger. A hogger is just someone who doesn't want to give way to cars behind. Most hoggers know that there are cars behind. They just don't want to give way cuz they think they are travelling at the speed limit already.
You are right. �Our visibility is only the claim behind us and we claim us, that is, we claim behind and we get to choose to accept the offer to close the case. Hence a "standard" procedure.
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According to chain collision scenario in BOLA. Back car only claim immediate front car and so forth. No more last car bao ga liao. Even if all got car videos to show it's solely last car's fault, not sure if the insurers will deviate from guideline and all claim last car.
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WATCH OUT !! for men in black !!
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My case very straight forward lor ...... the moment I got out the car.
a) Drivers A & B "seem" to know each other as their acting skill very poor. Even TCS will not take them as carrefare.
b) Both are smiling. They are sure very happy that day.
c) Both refuse to provide full name, particulars, insurance or as per GIA Framework.
d) Both drive off in a hurry.
I reported item c and d lor. Item a and b, no proof, no report. You only reported things which you are in the know lor. This report, very important as all parties can see and can be use as evidence in courts for you or against you. So if judge find your essay very bad, then good luck lor.
Only me, Driver D & E very sian.
Lucky for me ??? Accident after 8 days into a new insurance cycle lor, because this type of case can pend a long time. I got 1 year to settle lor. I settle behind car within 2 weeks - I accept all offer anyhow lor. I very flexi one.
By year end renewal, I notice the premium was actually cheaper than last year. I tot Income made a mistake. Then they said I was released from all liabilities lor. Not reason given.
NCD not affected, I got NCD protection anyway - FREE. Was told there would be a "slight" increase premium lor if 3rd P claim successful.
If car usage is not high for you, suggest you take loss of use claim by money rather than courtesy car. I got about 3K for loss of use. $120 per day for CAT B car.
I can take taxi everyday ....... heeeee ....... I took MRT.
Income has the Orange Force to take care EVERYTHING. That why I ONLY buy Income.
Pray when you see a good temple, and learn and wise up lor .....
Car ram into Bangkok Four Face Buddha Temple
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The reasoning behind why the back car always at fault is because the front car could be stopping for any reason but it is the back car's responsibility to keep a safe distance to ensure that there is time to react and stop. There is no reason to rear-end someone unless the driver never keep safe distance.
Anyway, not keen for a debate as I am more concerned about whiplash now.
Ya I know that theory. Only good as a general guide, as there are exceptions. So, your last sentence is not true. I rear ended the front car even though I kept a safe distance and thus able to stopped in time. You know why? Because after I have stopped, the car behind me pushed me to hit the front car. So how is your last statement true?
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You should be able to claim from the car behind since you stopped in-time. Btw, if the car behind you is tailgating, keep a bigger gap from the car infront so that there will be more time to slow down gradually. Or just get out of his way. Lol. That is taught in driving school. So it is still the responsibility of the car behind to ensure that there is enough space. The car infront can't increase the space so not his fault if there is not enough time for the cars behind to stop.
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So, if you can prove that you stopped in-time but the car behind pushed you forward, you'll be able to claim from the car behind for your medical bills and damages and whatever the first car is claiming from you also.
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So? It still doesn't mean that a person who keeps a safe distance is a hogger. A hogger is just someone who doesn't want to give way to cars behind. Most hoggers know that there are cars behind. They just don't want to give way cuz they think they are travelling at the speed limit already.
Thanks bro for sharing. Surprise that this day and age still got pple refuse to exchange particulars and ID. Sibei Kah. ...
Just take some pix especially with the license plate and go, change particulars for what?
Let the insurance co handle all these.
Singapore drivers and bikers alike like to chiong red light. This biker deserved it. Look at the speed he was travelling to chiong the light. Must have seen amber and went faster but light already changed when he crossed.
Don't know why SG still don't implement controlled turning for all junctions.. this will minimise all risk..
If already going at speed limit, should not be considered a road hogger even behind vehicle coming at a higher speed exceeding the speed limit.
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No wonder there are wonderful road hoggers who really ensure ample space in front of them
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Encountered one idiot silver Merc C180 on CTE going south towards AYE. �Fella left about 300m clear in front of him. �I overtook him on the left at AMK Ave 5 area and after I drove off, saw him blocking an ambulance the same way all the way to the PIE/Serangoon Rd exit area. �
Don't know why SG still don't implement controlled turning for all junctions.. this will minimise all risk..
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Too used to current rules. A change also not simple.
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Lazy educate these buggers liao.. Later become flame war again.
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Cannot argue with stupidity one.. They will drag you down to their level & beat you with experience.
Lazy educate these buggers liao.. Later become flame war again.
Cannot argue with stupidity one.. They will drag you down to their level & beat you with experience.
stubborn ones especially those old farts, ego bigger than the sky one....
cano never understand road hoggers means roger hog even if u stick to speed limit.
Encountered one idiot silver Merc C180 on CTE going south towards AYE. Fella left about 300m clear in front of him. I overtook him on the left at AMK Ave 5 area and after I drove off, saw him blocking an ambulance the same way all the way to the PIE/Serangoon Rd exit area.
I know their mentality. If based on what Nsy said, they will not bother to give way at all coz if rear ended its the fault of the rear car. And they keep a big space in front so that they won't hit any car in front. Selfish mentality to the max.
Lazy educate these buggers liao.. Later become flame war again.
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Cannot argue with stupidity one.. They will drag you down to their level & beat you with experience.
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I agree with you.
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Actually i feel Singapore is too well regulated, resulting in extreme intolerance..("hey thats illegal you know!!")
As can be evidenced by sooo many bo liao websites like stomp and also so many minor things on the road..
all post big big on social media to name and shame..
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Really...let who has not sinned cast the first stone..
Ironically thats the actual reason why got so much ungracious and guai lan behaviors.
As long as legal can liao.
Let me illustrate my point.
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In JB, if got car tailgate super close.. Come very fast from behind. Will you give way? I would. Why? Who knows if the guy behind is up to no good or trying to rob me..
In SG, KNN, i am legal... bloody tailgater .. you cannot do anything to me. If i angry i jam brake.. cos if accident is your fault..
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In the US, not happy with anyone on the road.. you play jam brake? Or 3rd finger? Or cut people off? Or would you , suah.. just overtake and ignore. I most likely just ignore.
Why? Who know if the fella is armed with a gun?
Or maybe he is driving like an a**hole cos he is a drug dealer running from police?
Wait if i give him the finger or piss him off, he start shooting at me?
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I agree with you.
Actually i feel Singapore is too well regulated, resulting in extreme intolerance..("hey thats illegal you know!!")
As can be evidenced by sooo many bo liao websites like stomp and also so many minor things on the road..
all post big big on social media to name and shame..
Really...let who has not sinned cast the first stone..
Ironically thats the actual reason why got so much ungracious and guai lan behaviors.
As long as legal can liao.
Let me illustrate my point.
In JB, if got car tailgate super close.. Come very fast from behind. Will you give way? I would. Why? Who knows if the guy behind is up to no good or trying to rob me..
In SG, KNN, i am legal... bloody tailgater .. you cannot do anything to me. If i angry i jam brake.. cos if accident is your fault..
In the US, not happy with anyone on the road.. you play jam brake? Or 3rd finger? Or cut people off? Or would you , suah.. just overtake and ignore. I most likely just ignore.
Why? Who know if the fella is armed with a gun?
Or maybe he is driving like an a**hole cos he is a drug dealer running from police?
Wait if i give him the finger or piss him off, he start shooting at me?
In my opinion, the potential threat of violence with very little or limited recourse actually makes people more tolerant.
Not just violence
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Be aware of ur surroundings.. Someone wants to go faster than you.. Yield lane 1. It's called being considerate..
Knn, I have no idea why those self righteous ego farts trying to argue about?
Seem too many, ignored way too many.
signal left, overtake and bye bye to u.
Driver's legs impaled after car crash in Bukit Timah
http://www.straitsti...-in-bukit-timah
SINGAPORE - A driver's legs were impaled by a road divider after he crashed his car on Upper Bukit Timah Road on Saturday (July 23) morning.
The 26-year-old man was trapped and officers from the Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) extricated him from the car with hydraulic rescue tools.
The accident, involving one car, happened near Springdale Condominium in the early hours of Saturday morning at about 3.30am.
The crash victim was conscious when he was taken to the National University Hospital, SCDF said.
It is understood that a metal rod from the road divider had penetrated both his thighs.
Eyewitnesses told Shin Min Daily News that the car flipped over when it crashed.
Five passers-by stopped to help, the report said. They turned the car over and waited with the driver for help to arrive.
They also kept the driver awake by talking to him while they waited, one witness said.
SCDF said it sent one fire engine, a Red Rhino, one ambulance and a support vehicle to the scene.
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Reminder to all drivers who had passes their BTT eons ago
Keep left
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Looks like he lost control and crash. Its a lancer.
Driver's legs impaled after car crash in Bukit Timah
http://www.straitsti...-in-bukit-timah
SINGAPORE - A driver's legs were impaled by a road divider after he crashed his car on Upper Bukit Timah Road on Saturday (July 23) morning.
The 26-year-old man was trapped and officers from the Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) extricated him from the car with hydraulic rescue tools.
The accident, involving one car, happened near Springdale Condominium in the early hours of Saturday morning at about 3.30am.
The crash victim was conscious when he was taken to the National University Hospital, SCDF said.
It is understood that a metal rod from the road divider had penetrated both his thighs.
Eyewitnesses told Shin Min Daily News that the car flipped over when it crashed.
Five passers-by stopped to help, the report said. They turned the car over and waited with the driver for help to arrive.
They also kept the driver awake by talking to him while they waited, one witness said.
SCDF said it sent one fire engine, a Red Rhino, one ambulance and a support vehicle to the scene.�
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Was there this morning. Thought they would have erected barrier
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Heard got about 6 vehicles involved in the accident.
Hope the people is fine and the main culprit to be punished heavily
The cam guy very happy....
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If there are no injured to help, move aside. Want to gawk, gawk from the side, don't act as if he is the TP walk around the accident site freely.
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Some people just have too much time on their hands.
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SINGAPORE - A massive jam formed on Kranji Expressway (KJE) on Monday (July 25) morning following a serious accident between a car and a motorcycle.
The accident during the morning rush hour took place in the direction of the Pan Island Expressway (PIE) after the Brickland Road exit.
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Some people just have too much time on their hands.
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I hear so many "wah wah WAH"
wtf happened? fight ah
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Fatal Accident this morning KJE....blue tent come out...
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SINGAPORE - A massive jam formed on Kranji Expressway (KJE) on Monday (July 25) morning following a serious accident between a car and a motorcycle.
The accident during the morning rush hour took place in the direction of the Pan Island Expressway (PIE) after the Brickland Road exit.
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In a tweet at 5.54am, the Land Transport Authority (LTA) advised motorists to avoid lanes 1 and 2 on the affected stretch of KJE.
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Was caught in the jam this morning.. the accident caused all road leading out of CCK to jam up.. normal commute to my mom's place turn out to be 30 mins instead of the normal 10 mins
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Dangerous driving in Malaysia after pump petrol (Without Paying)
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SKS645J Civic
Dangerous driving in Malaysia after pump petrol (Without Paying)
This kind of idiot really bloody spoil market, next time they will want sg cars to put deposit too if more of this kind of things happen.
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This is the Civic that was stolen in Malaysia last year leh
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wtf happened? fight ah
If fight and hurt�people, the jail terms may be higher then a traffic accident...
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Dangerous driving in Malaysia after pump petrol (Without Paying)
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Very old video. Posted before already.
The cam guy very happy....
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If there are no injured to help, move aside. Want to gawk, gawk from the side, don't act as if he is the TP walk around the accident site freely.
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Some people just have too much time on their hands.
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If he's there at that kind of timing, probably have too much free time lo.
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Punggol area (beside SPC)
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Saw someone post this
Punggol area (beside SPC)
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Looks like distracted and going quite fast.
Looks like distracted and going quite fast.
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yes i agree. the lorry must be driving too fast and not keeping lookout for oncoming traffic.
Driver got time to honk but did not try to siam at all.....
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SINGAPORE - A massive jam formed on Kranji Expressway (KJE) on Monday (July 25) morning following a serious accident between a car and a motorcycle.
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It's Monday morning blues.
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Looks like distracted and going quite fast.
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Cartrain dreaming man -Speed is hard to judge, but didn't try to siam at all,
and it was obvious that the lorry wasn't slowing down...
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Another "my road" clueless driver...
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Of course - the lorry will loose in the insurance claim (as he should)
Driver got time to honk but did not try to siam at all.....
Local driver mentality. Anything, horn first, then 'father/mother' come out from mouth, then pray hard the other party do the siam manoeuvre for them...
Looks like distracted and going quite fast.
Full impact, never apply brake until impact
RadX haven't announce gate open yet already got some slip through liao?
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Saw someone post this
Punggol area (beside SPC)
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cam car hit the hardest part of a lorry. The corner.
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why the need to chiong at a junction even though you may have the right of way.
White car bumper looks like there's blood. Maybe hit a pedestrian.
I think is oil ...you can see quite a big pool of "vital car fluid" beside the taxi
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Saw someone post this
Punggol area (beside SPC)
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White car looks like Uber car. Recently so many Sienta, Altis, Vezel and Axio added onto the road as Uber. Could likely be one of them.
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Speeding ? What Speeding ?
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Every week seems like 3~4 COE got recycled.
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It should be 3-4 COE lost every week.
Unless otherwise, all COE get to be reborn as another cat ?
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The junction traffic lights got accident detection system? All started blinking when the impact happened!
cam car hit the hardest part of a lorry. The corner.
why the need to chiong at a junction even though you may have the right of way.
Unless otherwise, all COE get to be reborn as another cat ?
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Going forward, very likely these COE will dissappear.� Unlikely to be re-born.
You gave LTA another idea. Maybe next time, cars that are written off due to accident, COE will not recycle. Lol. Then can go carlite.
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Saw someone post this
Punggol area (beside SPC)
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The airbags never activate??
You gave LTA another idea. Maybe next time, cars that are written off due to accident, COE will not recycle. Lol. Then can go carlite.
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Darwinian selection for COE? Ha! Good idea!
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spruce up like racer but without racer reflexes?
Another angle.
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It pays to adopt defensive driving. Yes, no doubt the car is in right of way and lorry should have have been more vigilant, this accident can be avoided if defensive driving has been adopted. At the end of the day, it is a lose lose for both of them
You gave LTA another idea. Maybe next time, cars that are written off due to accident, COE will not recycle. Lol. Then can go carlite.
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Saw someone post this
Punggol area (beside SPC)
I did not give LTA any idea. Look at the data i put in Car-Lite. COE is disappearing as & when cars are scrapped.
It pays to adopt defensive driving. Yes, no doubt the car is in right of way and lorry should have have been more vigilant, this accident can be avoided if defensive driving has been adopted. At the end of the day, it is a lose lose for both of them
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Some idiots who have no right of way, also chiong ... in the end, both suffered ...
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Hahaha.. Been curious what car is it that go head on with the lorry. Though the Hyundai will win the case, but he will not drive an "original" car anymore. Anyway, this Hyundai car also damn stupid, see it coming but don't want to slow down, or no attempt to slow down. My car, even 9 year 11 months I also won't go and head on like that. Win doesn't mean head on and is ok. Or maybe his front already chui, need new spray paint. Or radiator already going to spoil, go and bang and change a new one. If because of that, then I say he is smart to "leech" on the insurance. Anyway, sticker until like that, I don't think he drive like a saint. * General stereotype for people who tia sticker and think their car can from Lancer become Evo and Civic become Type R*
Hahaha.. Been curious what car is it that go head on with the lorry. Though the Hyundai will win the case, but he will not drive an "original" car anymore. Anyway, this Hyundai car also damn stupid, see it coming but don't want to slow down, or no attempt to slow down. My car, even 9 year 11 months I also won't go and head on like that. Win doesn't mean head on and is ok. Or maybe his front already chui, need new spray paint. Or radiator already going to spoil, go and bang and change a new one. If because of that, then I say he is smart to "leech" on the insurance. Anyway, sticker until like that, I don't think he drive like a saint. * General stereotype for people who tia sticker and think their car can from Lancer become Evo and Civic become Type R*
some time there is alot other factor.
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maybe his burget damn tight?
, but the car radiator leak,
a/c fail ,
lower arm ball joint break.
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anyway no job now, insurance claim gao gao, car repair swee swee, spare car some more,
no job relax in hospital bed loh.
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The car look ugly, Iron man wannabe....
The driver is too slow to react (did not anticipate the lorry turning)
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I've seen that white van with it's gaudy golden body kits many times around Bedok and Tampines... imho... the look is somewhat
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It pays to adopt defensive driving. Yes, no doubt the car is in right of way and lorry should have have been more vigilant, this accident can be avoided if defensive driving has been adopted. At the end of the day, it is a lose lose for both of them
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I think the driver distracted. The reaction time really slow.
The junction traffic lights got accident detection system? All started blinking when the impact happened!
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driver doing initial D ah. in wet weather some more. bloody idiot.
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Saw someone post this
Punggol area (beside SPC)
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My guess is that the driver was probably not concentrating on the road, probably distracted by handphone or something, from the car plate number, the car should have another 3 years to go, it makes no sense to try to claim insurance... Anyway, hope that both parties are all ok.
Tyre no good in wet? Brakes no good in wet? Car suspension no good so cannot take corner on wet? Most prob lousy driver in wet weather!
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A case of road hogger giving his explanation to TP officer when asked to stop over in Taiwan. Sorry to those who dun speak Mandarin or non-chinese. The driver is dissatisfied that he is being booked.
F10 polis car wor.
A case of road hogger giving his explanation to TP officer when asked to stop over in Taiwan. Sorry to those who dun speak Mandarin or non-chinese. The driver is dissatisfied that he is being booked.
Bloody typical Road Hogger & his self serving lame excuses.
TP should give him an additional summon for being argumentative.
TP should give him an additional summon for being argumentative.
Wah, like that many of the locals will get the summons lei.
You know lar, our locals will NEVER ever admit they are wrong, even if caught red-handed one.
This is call "pak-see-mai-jin" aka "kena beaten till death also don't admit".
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Is there anyone else who noticed that this joker did not brake at all? Only until the very end then he/she remembered to brake. Seems like tio stunned like a vegetable!
Is there anyone else who noticed that this joker did not brake at all? Only until the very end then he/she remembered to brake. Seems like tio stunned like a vegetable!
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IMO, the driver did the right thing. Braking when the tires got no grip and already sliding won't help much. Might even make it worse. Better to just leave the pedals alone and try to steer in the direction the car is sliding and hope the front tires regain traction.
IMO, the driver did the right thing. Braking when the tires got no grip and already sliding won't help much. Might even make it worse. Better to just leave the pedals alone and try to steer in the direction the car is sliding and hope the front tires regain traction.
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Should always brake before entering the corner.
IMO, the driver did the right thing. Braking when the tires got no grip and already sliding won't help much. Might even make it worse. Better to just leave the pedals alone and try to steer in the direction the car is sliding and hope the front tires regain traction.
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maybe just do a full lock and pull the hand brake.....
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maybe just do a full lock and pull the hand brake.....
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True if driver brakes really hard. But shouldn't it be better to brake slightly as compared to no brake at all?
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Anyway my guess is (still) the driver was totally stunned... you look at the end of the video, car was going straight at a slow speed on the left most lane and it had traveled for some distance before the brake was depressed.
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Eventually, when the car is slow to a crawl, i slowly step on the brake until stationery.
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maybe just do a full lock and pull the hand brake.....
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spin the car in circles..
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Calling RadX to do body collection
Is there anyone else who noticed that this joker did not brake at all? Only until the very end then he/she remembered to brake. Seems like tio stunned like a vegetable!
I call this Lau Lan, want to take corner but end up "drifting" like shit.
A case of road hogger giving his explanation to TP officer when asked to stop over in Taiwan. Sorry to those who dun speak Mandarin or non-chinese. The driver is dissatisfied that he is being booked.
http://im1.shutterfl...00AZMWrNkzcN2Lg
A case of road hogger giving his explanation to TP officer when asked to stop over in Taiwan. Sorry to those who dun speak Mandarin or non-chinese. The driver is dissatisfied that he is being booked.
Drive on overtaking lane when other lanes are empty - checked
Insist nothing wrong with driving at speed limit on overtaking lane even when not overtaking- checked
Clueless about hogging a long chain of cars behind - checked
See police kancheong jam brake - checked
After much explanation, still don't understand why his action is road hogging - checked
Every response to police is "but but but..." and "becos.. becos.. becos..." - checked
Suppose to "rush" home after work so he can't understand why he is hogging goondu logic - checked
Cannot differentiate between keeping within speed limit and road hogging - checked
Ownself say ownself as law-abiding safe driver - checked
Seems like road hogs everywhere give same excuses one leh.
Overall I find the officer was quite nice n patient.
The driver made known he didnt exceed speed limit and asked if it was a routine random road check when pulled over. The officer acknowledged the first point n said he will let him know soon.
Officer then clearly explained reason of pulling him over simply bcos he traveled in the wrong lane with inappropriate speed causing a long tail of vehicles behind. Officer stressed that he had been observing driver for a while then decided to pull him over inconsideration of safety.
Officer educated that the extreme left lane should be used only for overtaking purpose n speed in this lane normally hovers between 100 to 110 km/h, but officer said he had already gave chance to driver by lowering to 90km/h.
Officer went on to explain that he had to pull driver over as a last straw when driver further tapped his brake upon seeing officer bringing the speed even lower in the leftmost lane to 88km/h as that is far too slow.
What happened later in the video was the driver trying to justify that it was purely logically human nature to brake whenever they see an officer so he should not be booked just bcos of that n went on (gentlemanly, actually hypocritically) to stress that should not be a way to treat law abiding citizen. Driver stressed to officer that 2km/h slower should not get him a ticket. Officer said its not 2km/h but 12km/h dropping fr 100km/h. 90km/h was the speed that officer lowered n wanted to give some chance.
Driver explained he has no opportunity of moving bk to inner lane as it was occupied with cars exceeding speed limit (if I m not wrong), officer said the vehicles had to exceed speed limit to overtake him on wrong lane bcos he is far too slow by taking up that overtaking lane. In addition to that braking was a potential accident hazard to others.
Driver then requested for a warning but officer said (this is the best part) if no amount of education can cultivate, then a summon had to be in place. Officer stressed that he had to do his job as a road enforcer.
Driver insisted he had been wronged n stated he will not sign. Officer said driver has all the right not to sign as driver can decide to appeal or not.
Driver later post this video up on web to air his fustration.
Hope my summary is clear as it could for non-chinese or non-mandarin speaker.
umbrella flew out from lorry, taxi e-brake .
cam car slow to react
his/her scream sounds like another porker
Just run over it lah!
Umbrella fly out need to brake one meh?
Just run over it lah!�
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panic mah, people do funny thing when they are panic �
True if driver brakes really hard. But shouldn't it be better to brake slightly as compared to no brake at all?
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Anyway my guess is (still) the driver was totally stunned... you look at the end of the video, car was going straight at a slow speed on the left most lane and it had traveled for some distance before the brake was depressed.
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Already answered but no, you don't want to transfer any more weight off the rear.
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FWD car so a driver who knew what he/she was doing/was and was confident enough would probably just power out of it.
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But then again a driver who knew what he/she was doing wouldn't have gotten into that situation in the first place.
panic mah, people do funny thing when they are panic
Because gong see chia
umbrella flew out from lorry, taxi e-brake .
cam car slow to react�
his/her�scream sounds like another porker�
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I have to say cam driver is really slow and possibly is not aware of the traffic beyond the car directly in front of him.�
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Accident is totally and easily avoidable if cam driver pays more attention to the wider surrounding.�
don't think is an umbrella. more like a folded tarpaulin cover that got unfurled by the air turbulence generated when the lorry drove pass the chemical tanker.
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umbrella flew out from lorry, taxi e-brake .
cam car slow to react�
his/her�scream sounds like another porker�
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I have to say cam driver is really slow and possibly is not aware of the traffic beyond the car directly in front of him.�
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Accident is totally and easily avoidable if cam driver pays more attention to the wider surrounding.�
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huh ? you mean he supposed to have bionic eyes to know about falling umbrellas ?�
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Which accident is not avoidable ? And what do you mean by "wider surroundings"�
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When a vehicle in front jams brake, nothing the car behind can do except to hope the distance is far enough and he have 6 Pot Brembos
��........... that said, i agree that the cam car driver reaction a bit slow. Perhaps distracted cos he wants to switch lanes thus when he looked back in front BAM too late�
don't think is an umbrella. more like a folded tarpaulin cover that got unfurled by the air turbulence generated when the lorry drove pass the chemical tanker.
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umbrella lah, you can see the centre "stick" �
Edited by Othello, 29 July 2016 - 10:46 AM.
I beg to differ...cam car was probably still in the midst of completing his lane changing. His eyes might be looking at the blindspot or side mirror at the split second when the taxi jammed brake.�
umbrella flew out from lorry, taxi e-brake .
cam car slow to react�
his/her�scream sounds like another porker�
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Cam car seems to be straddling the lane? Like undecided whether to change lane or not?
Cam car seems to be straddling the lane? Like undecided whether to change lane or not?
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just very slowmo lane change. those kind take 10years to change lane ones....
http://www.straitsti...angi-coast-road
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1 killed, 5 injured after accident on Changi Coast Road.� Accident this morning.
umbrella flew out from lorry, taxi e-brake .
cam car slow to react�
his/her�scream sounds like another porker�
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maybe hot kopi spill on LP during impact lor ...�
maybe hot kopi spill on LP during impact lor ...�
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aiyo. very unfortunate.
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How to do claim?
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edited "ops...I meant the accident of the taxi and car" hahaha
Edited by Jthl, 29 July 2016 - 12:19 PM.
aiyo. very unfortunate.
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How to do claim?
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cam car already got issues of his own by hitting back of teksi ... hot coffee spill on LP is lan lan lor ...�
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anyways, not a good idea to have open drinks in the car.
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noticed some cars have cup holders situated above the HU ... not a good design me thinks ...
aiyo. very unfortunate.
How to do claim?
edited "ops...I meant the accident of the taxi and car" hahaha
So? It still doesn't mean that a person who keeps a safe distance is a hogger. A hogger is just someone who doesn't want to give way to cars behind. Most hoggers know that there are cars behind. They just don't want to give way cuz they think they are travelling at the speed limit already.
And 50% of hoggers are�usually�using/looking at their handphone/tablet.
Umbrella fly out need to brake one meh?
Just run over it lah!ehh .. ehhh .... ehhh . . . my um um um brella
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http://www.straitsti...angi-coast-road
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1 killed, 5 injured after accident on Changi Coast Road.� Accident this morning.�
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Looks like a forrester?
Looks like a forrester?
That stretch is haunted.
Why not blame it on driver's fatigue?
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If ppl say it's haunted....I say there got aliens.
Edited by Watwheels, 29 July 2016 - 03:48 PM.
Why not blame it on driver's fatigue?
If ppl say it's haunted....I say there got aliens.
http://www.straitsti...angi-coast-road
1 killed, 5 injured after accident on Changi Coast Road. Accident this morning.
So far never encounter any ghosts, fairies, aliens, vampires or werewolves there. Speedsters quite a few. Pls be considerate to beings from alternate dimensions. Don't always blame them for problems caused by humans.
Edited by Jellandross, 29 July 2016 - 04:22 PM.
Looks like a forrester?
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Forester 2.0 NA
That stretch is haunted.
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When Terminal 5 comes up this stretch will be no more.
Hmmm, accident don't look that bad. No seatbelt perhaps?
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pretty bad according to Channel 8's news..SCDF needed to use hydraulic cutter
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I beg to differ...cam car was probably still in the midst of completing his lane changing. His eyes might be looking at the blindspot or side mirror at the split second when the taxi jammed brake.�
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Analyze-schmanalyze - at the end of the day, still the camera vehicle's fault for ramming the taxi.�
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http://www.straitsti...angi-coast-road
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1 killed, 5 injured after accident on Changi Coast Road.� Accident this morning.�
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all 6 in the same car? �
Cam car should check rear and sides (also blind spots) then the lane he wanted to filter before starting to filter lane. Careless driving.
Well, all the checking in the world is useless if the car IN FRONT jams brake
the report only states 1 car lehall 6 in the same car?
Edited by Othello, 29 July 2016 - 06:39 PM.
all 6 in the same car? �
Should be. Since article say car crash into tree. Never mention any other car or pedestrians involved.
all 6 in the same car?
Just watched Ch8 news. Yes. All in one car. Age from 20 to 30 years old.
Drive on overtaking lane when other lanes are empty - checked
Insist nothing wrong with driving at speed limit on overtaking lane even when not overtaking- checked
Clueless about hogging a long chain of cars behind - checked
See police kancheong jam brake - checked
After much explanation, still don't understand why his action is road hogging - checked
Every response to police is "but but but..." and "becos.. becos.. becos..." - checked
Suppose to "rush" home after work so he can't understand why he is hogging goondu logic - checked
Cannot differentiate between keeping within speed limit and road hogging - checked
Ownself say ownself as law-abiding safe driver - checked
Seems like road hogs everywhere give same excuses one leh.�
That must be my bil you are quoting.
Just watched Ch8 news. Yes. All in one car. Age from 20 to 30 years old.
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So early, that age range and all men ....... hmmmm�
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Maybe from Navy�
Edited by Othello, 29 July 2016 - 08:25 PM.
No this is not a movie.
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simi car so chiu�
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lane splitting some more lah�
No this is not a movie.
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wah piang !!! i wonder whether the cam car is lucky or he moved off cos he looked at his rear mirror�
Edited by Othello, 29 July 2016 - 08:43 PM.
simi car so chiu�
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All I can say is it looked like a Rolls Royce in the end.
No this is not a movie.
what did he crash into?
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Car skidded and crashed into center kerb. Likely speeding.
No this is not a movie.
I think this car should be a RWD car,in excess speed of at least 120km/hwhen the driver took this right hander,it look like 'oversteer'.
Forester 2.0 NA
Forester has 5 stars crash rating
Thought it is a safer car to drive
Or the drive was speeding...
Forester has 5 stars crash rating
Thought it is a safer car to drive
Or the drive was speeding...
If Driver is Speeding,hit a tree when skidded,10 stars crash rating also useless...
Just 1 death is consider very lucky....
All I can say is it looked like a Rolls Royce in the end.
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Looks too small to be RR. Door handle also wrong. Maybe its the mitsuoka.
recently like a lot of skidding accidents....pls try to minimize this by checking your tyres....if treadwear is low, pls get it change. Esp if u like to speed. Not only for your own safety but other road users own safety.
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You might want to be cheapskate and refuse to change, but pls do not drag other road users into your accident.
pretty bad according to Channel 8's news..SCDF needed to use hydraulic cutter
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Looks like the car hit the tree really hard. The engine flew out.
No this is not a movie.
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Look a bit like a Camry...??
Look a bit like a Camry...??
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I think it's Chrysler 300C.
I enjoy taking the longer route sometimes to drive on changi coast rd. Very relaxing and easy drive during light traffic. At that hour and traffic, can't imagine how to get into such a car wreck.
So far never encounter any ghosts, fairies, aliens, vampires or werewolves there. Speedsters quite a few. Pls be considerate to beings from alternate dimensions. Don't always blame them for problems caused by humans.
Vampire?
Forester has 5 stars crash rating
Thought it is a safer car to drive
Or the drive was speeding...
Idiot driver reduce it to 1 star.
I think it's Chrysler 300C.
i think so, with chrome wheels and red caliper brakes!
look like the driver takes the slight �R hand bend corner too fast (?speeding)
hope driver ok and no one else/pedestrian injured
and yes, cam car was very fortunate to have move off.
Edited by alphard96, 30 July 2016 - 02:35 AM.
Look a bit like a Camry...??
More like old model Toyota Mark-X.
i think so, with chrome wheels and red caliper brakes!
look like the driver takes the slight �R hand bend corner too fast (?speeding)
hope driver ok and no one else/pedestrian injured
and yes, cam car was very fortunate to have move off.
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this is the road leaving Sin Ming industrial estate, small road and in the direction of residential area.
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crazy to be driving at such speed at this stretch�
this is the road leaving Sin Ming industrial estate, small road and in the direction of residential area.
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crazy to be driving at such speed at this stretch�
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i wonder if the black car will be charged for beating the red light�
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Anyway cam car is damn lucky, apparently it is an Uber car with passenger on board.�
i wonder if the black car will be charged for beating the red light�
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Anyway cam car is damn lucky, apparently it is an Uber car with passenger on board.�
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maybe black car driver enjoyed the duck rice at sin ming and then fell asleep at the wheel ...�
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think the guy not only beat red light, probably crashed into it too ...�
No this is not a movie.
LTA hotspot area, probably got illegal mod.. Saw LTA officer speed up to run... Speed is Gg quite fast at that small road area
LTA hotspot area, probably got illegal mod.. Saw LTA officer speed up to run... Speed is Gg quite fast at that small road area
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LTA hotspot is understatement .......... LTA just 10s away !!!!!!�
No this is not a movie.
or was that just sunlight reflection
Yep, safety + smelly + hygiene distance behind a dump truck. In all cases, will switch lane and zoom ... zoom off.
Wanna gate crash LTA, minimum also need a dump truck full of cement Hahahahahahahamaybe intention was to crash into LTA office ... but GPS map not updated so build up speed at wrong junction ...
can see car black car was building up speed and getting ready to turn right towards LTA direction ...
Lol officers always lurk ard that area
Agreed,too many WorkShops doing illegal modification there..
Re : Sin Ming Road Accident
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Another video from another car cam
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https://web.facebook...207321126486413
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And it gets even juicier�
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Apparently, inside the Saab were 3 mechanics !!!�
If Driver is Speeding,hit a tree when skidded,10 stars crash rating also useless...
Just 1 death is consider very lucky....
Agree, ...so far, not many can win a tree...
Re : Sin Ming Road Accident
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Another video from another car cam
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https://web.facebook...207321126486413
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And it gets even juicier�
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Apparently, inside the Saab were 3 mechanics !!!�
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Embedded.
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Just a normal straight road. Except for suicide, I can't think of another possibility of crashing a car like this.
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Oh wait.. there's idiocy too.
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Edited by Jellandross, 30 July 2016 - 03:52 PM.
Re : Sin Ming Road Accident
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Another video from another car cam
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https://web.facebook...207321126486413
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And it gets even juicier�
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Apparently, inside the Saab were 3 mechanics !!!�
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aiyo .. hope for their own sake its their car and not customer's car ...�
No this is not a movie.
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bugger trying to drift the corner but epic failure.
cam car damn fortunate to miss that by seconds
bugger trying to drift the corner but epic failure.
cam car damn fortunate to miss that by seconds
Super lucky...
Re : Sin Ming Road Accident
Another video from another car cam
https://web.facebook...207321126486413
And it gets even juicier
Apparently, inside the Saab were 3 mechanics !!!
either taking a joyride or unintended acceleration arh?
This is the reason why I always hang around the workshop while my car is being serviced.�
Look a bit like a Camry...??
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after seeing another time, my best guess would be a mark x
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er3682 also mentioned that it is a RWD so it fits.
audi driver is just a super idiot.
there are just situations where there is no way u can win, no matter what, u need to let the other guy go first.
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this example describe it best, merc just see show, let audi do 1000 point turns also LL have to wait for merc to complete his parking
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that being said, merc head in parallel lot is a noob mistake.
at the end of the day, is 2 kuku drivers creating the joke of the day
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if I am the merc (as if I can afford one), I would take my own sweet time to park at the lot in front instead reversing into the lot initially taken by the audi.
Wanna gate crash LTA, minimum also need a dump truck full of cement HahahahahahahaCreative car body works
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Creative car body works
Hahahahaha
Coe bites the dustRe : Sin Ming Road Accident
Another video from another car cam
https://web.facebook...207321126486413
And it gets even juicier
Apparently, inside the Saab were 3 mechanics !!!
Workshop how to pay?
Sin ming one
Hahahahaha
Coe bites the dust
Workshop how to pay?Car washer see the cement
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Sin ming one
Hahahahaha
Coe bites the dust
Workshop how to pay?
Car washer see the cement
Just set fire claim insurance
OwnerDoes not matter. Add one to the recycled Coe.
Edited by Mustank, 30 July 2016 - 07:57 PM.
i think so, with chrome wheels and red caliper brakes!
look like the driver takes the slight R hand bend corner too fast (?speeding)
hope driver ok and no one else/pedestrian injured
and yes, cam car was very fortunate to have move off.
Power is nothing without control.
Sorry, not being black hearted but I do not hope the driver is ok. This kind of f**ked up and reckless driver, I hope he injured himself. Driving so fast on small roads, it's lucky he didn't injured innocent people.
Power is nothing without control.
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