Thứ Bảy, 17 tháng 9, 2016

Football transfers summer 2016: News, rumours and tip-offs part 22

  • 13 August 2016 - 05:44 PM
    Osprey23
    Christian Eriksen is demanding �150,000-a-week to sign a new deal at Tottenham. (Daily Express)
  • 13 August 2016 - 05:56 PM
    Noob79

    Milan have initiated contacts for Mangala. Milan are willing to offer �18m while City won't sell him for less than �30m.

    [Fichajes]


  • 13 August 2016 - 07:42 PM
    Osprey23
    As expected, Jonas Hector extends his contract with FC K�ln.
  • 14 August 2016 - 07:17 PM
    Osprey23
    Yannick Bolasie on his way to Merseyside for Everton medical.

    Christian Benteke should be off once this move is completed.
  • 14 August 2016 - 08:56 PM
    Jamesc

    If we are talking about No.9, I can think of some more.

    My favourite is still Ronaldo. Most complete No. 9 imo. Strength, speed, skill, technique.

    May I also add Torres? He was world class with Liverpool.

    You mean the real striker right

    and not pansy boy.

    :D

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  • 14 August 2016 - 10:12 PM
    Osprey23
    Manchester City have agreed personal terms with Barcelona goalkeeper Claudio Bravo. (SPORT)

    Looks like it is Bravo to replace Hart
  • 14 August 2016 - 11:16 PM
    L23

    Manchester City have agreed personal terms with Barcelona goalkeeper Claudio Bravo. (SPORT)

    Looks like it is Bravo to replace Hart

    Finally Hart have some competition.
    It's good for England team in a Long run actually:)
  • 15 August 2016 - 03:19 PM
    Osprey23

    Finally Hart have some competition.
    It's good for England team in a Long run actually:)


    Don't think so. If Bravo is in, fully expect Hart to leave.

    In other news, Palace is going to splash the cash from the sale of Bolasie on Benteke. They are also interested in signing Berahino and Young, according to Mirror

    http://www.mirror.co...-target-8632430
  • 15 August 2016 - 04:46 PM
    Atrecord

    Manchester City have agreed personal terms with Barcelona goalkeeper Claudio Bravo. (SPORT)

    Looks like it is Bravo to replace Hart

    Huh? Target can change so drastically arrh? from Ter Stegen suddenly become Barca wants to sell Bravo?

    This just reminds me that one season Suarez was being targeted by RM, but next season he went to Barca...�


  • 15 August 2016 - 08:59 PM
    Osprey23
    Official. Everton have signed Yannick Bolasie from Crystal Palace on a five-year deal.

    Expecting news on Benteke soon
  • 15 August 2016 - 09:00 PM
    Osprey23

    Huh? Target can change so drastically arrh? from Ter Stegen suddenly become Barca wants to sell Bravo?

    This just reminds me that one season Suarez was being targeted by RM, but next season he went to Barca...


    Frankly, it all started with rumour of Pep not rating Hart. Think I shared before. As for who he wants as No1, I heard is Ter Stegen but there is also rumour of Bravo.

    Just have to wait and see. Need Hart to move first.
  • 16 August 2016 - 08:25 AM
    Osprey23
    Jurgen Klopp will persevere with Alberto Moreno rather than dip into the transfer market. (Paul Joyce)

    This is enough to send 90% of Pool fan base into meltdown

    :D
  • 16 August 2016 - 08:30 AM
    Ngseeming

    True to form and policy, Mustafi's transfer hit snag as Arsenal refused to meet Valancia's valuation of 25 mil, 5 more than their offer price.

    Maybe another defeat will change their mind?


  • 16 August 2016 - 08:53 AM
    Osprey23

    True to form and policy, Mustafi's transfer hit snag as Arsenal refused to meet Valancia's valuation of 25 mil, 5 more than their offer price.

    Maybe another defeat will change their mind?


    Over �5m is really stupid if true

    Not saying Arsenal is wrong to stick to their valuation but it really has to be applied on a case by case. If he is going to improve the team as the starter, overpaying by �5m is really not much.

    Of course if he is just for a back up, then maybe can save the funds for other more crucial position.

    Even FSG has learnt. We overpaid so many players from Southampton just because the managers want them in as starters

    Edited by Osprey23, 16 August 2016 - 08:57 AM.

  • 16 August 2016 - 09:21 AM
    Atrecord

    Jurgen Klopp will persevere with Alberto Moreno rather than dip into the transfer market. (Paul Joyce)

    This is enough to send 90% of Pool fan base into meltdown

    :D

    :TT_TT:�� :a-bang:[rifle]


  • 16 August 2016 - 09:31 AM
    L23

    True to form and policy, Mustafi's transfer hit snag as Arsenal refused to meet Valancia's valuation of 25 mil, 5 more than their offer price.

    Maybe another defeat will change their mind?

    Seriously 25m is a steal man..

    AW wait somemore..�

    Confirm other club is planning to seal the deal quietly with this kind of pricing lo..

    Don't forget Stones is worth 50m, i don't think Mustafi don't worth half the price lo. :a-fun::a-fun:


  • 16 August 2016 - 09:32 AM
    Getzsfv

    Even FSG has learnt. We overpaid so many players from Southampton just because the managers want them in as starters

    In this current market, we have no choice, as long you are in premier league and top teams, ppl will squeeze u dry.. [:p]


  • 16 August 2016 - 09:33 AM
    Fooblack

    Jurgen Klopp will persevere with Alberto Moreno rather than dip into the transfer market. (Paul Joyce)

    This is enough to send 90% of Pool fan base into meltdown

    :D

    really incredible if true. i hope it is a smoke screen...�

    really neutrals also can see the position is a real issue.�

    if no LB comes in, I really wont be surprised to see Milner start more often than Moreno when fit. �

    Although slower, Milner can nevertheless provide width, cross and shoot so much better than Moreno... so there is offensive contributions. �With coutinho on the left wing, the LB is often naked and vulnerable to attacks, Milner have more more defensive sense than Moreno... �


  • 16 August 2016 - 09:39 AM
    Spring

    True to form and policy, Mustafi's transfer hit snag as Arsenal refused to meet Valancia's valuation of 25 mil, 5 more than their offer price.

    Maybe another defeat will change their mind?

    IMO, 25mil for a current German International, 24 years old seems a fair price in this current market.

    Chelsea also looking for CB and was quoted in excess of 40mil for Koulibaly so I can see them scooping in on Mustafi if Arsenal hesitate further, don't say I never warn Wenger [laugh]


  • 16 August 2016 - 09:44 AM
    Galantspeedz

    25m will be reasonable..... there were reports he is in london...... all the time i suspect is meet chelsea not arsenal......... lol

    if is 25m i really hope he buys.... i don't see how he will reject because of 5m euros


  • 16 August 2016 - 09:53 AM
    L23

    Manu favourites to land Gabigol !!� [smash]


  • 16 August 2016 - 10:00 AM
    Osprey23

    really incredible if true. i hope it is a smoke screen...

    really neutrals also can see the position is a real issue.

    if no LB comes in, I really wont be surprised to see Milner start more often than Moreno when fit.

    Although slower, Milner can nevertheless provide width, cross and shoot so much better than Moreno... so there is offensive contributions. With coutinho on the left wing, the LB is often naked and vulnerable to attacks, Milner have more more defensive sense than Moreno...


    Actually I am ok with the first bit that he chooses to perservere with Moreno. Because he works with him on a daily basis. So I cannot say I know Moreno as a player better than Klopp does. As for the second bit, about not dipping into the market, I tends to disagree. No matter what, we probably need a proper backup.

    If really want to use Milner, he is more suited to back up for Clyne actually as he is right footed. Notice a couple of time vs Barcelona, he would cut in to bring the ball to his right foot before delivering a cross. Compared to a natural left footer who can whip in the cross straightaway, the attacking movement will be faster.

    On the defensive sense, I do agree Milner is slight better due to his experience.
  • 16 August 2016 - 10:02 AM
    Osprey23

    In this current market, we have no choice, as long you are in premier league and top teams, ppl will squeeze u dry.. [:p]


    Worse if you see buying from another PL club. Dry liao still squeeze some more
  • 16 August 2016 - 10:09 AM
    Osprey23


    Manu favourites to land Gabigol !! [smash]


    Smelling agent at work. Last week Leicester, this week Man Utd.
  • 16 August 2016 - 10:12 AM
    Scion

    wah Chelsea is dumping Fabregas, putting him up for sale

    most probably will go to Juventus to replace Pobga

    or will Liverpool bid for him? after all it lacks a good CM organizer after Gerrard left


  • 16 August 2016 - 10:41 AM
    Ngseeming

    "Poor" Fabregas, apparently he was offered to Juve, PSG and RM.

    Meanwhile, Ah Seng is playing his waiting game with Mustafi whose deal is getting more complicated as Valencia apparently does not want to lose both Mustafi and Abdennour, who may be heading to Everton but was also offered to Arsenal.

    Ah Seng has his Plan C in the much cheaper Johnny Evans. But this deal would� infuriate rather than appease gunner supporters for more reasons than financial one..


  • 16 August 2016 - 10:56 AM
    Osprey23

    "Poor" Fabregas, apparently he was offered to Juve, PSG and RM.

    Meanwhile, Ah Seng is playing his waiting game with Mustafi whose deal is getting more complicated as Valencia apparently does not want to lose both Mustafi and Abdennour, who may be heading to Everton but was also offered to Arsenal.

    Ah Seng has his Plan C in the much cheaper Johnny Evans. But this deal would infuriate rather than appease gunner supporters for more reasons than financial one..


    Ya, posted before that Everton's interest in Abdennour has impact on Arsenal's pursuit of Mustafi. Valencia are more keen to let go of Abdennour and see Mustafi as an integral part to their team.

    What this mean is that Arsenal likely have to pay through the nose for Mustafi by given Valencia an offer they can't refuse.

    I wonder if he would try a Plan D, by going for Sakho. Remember early last season when Sakho wasn't given a look in by BR? Then out of the blue Sakho was given a new contract while not playing? Arsenal was pushing for him and forced Liverpool's hands to tie him down.

    But if they really want to try, need to be fast. Klopp unlikely to entertain any transfer out late in the window
  • 16 August 2016 - 11:02 AM
    Ngseeming

    I remembered the reason that RM did not move for Ronaldinho was he was too ugly for a Galactico.

    Ah Seng might think that Sakho's playing style is too awkward for his gunners? [:(] [:(]


  • 16 August 2016 - 11:05 AM
    Scion

    "Poor" Fabregas, apparently he was offered to Juve, PSG and RM.

    Barca and RM said they are not interested in him

    so guess Juventus, PSG or stay in England are the options for him... or he can still go back Spain and join Valencia or At Madrid?

    still only 29... not as good as before but still a good CM imo


  • 16 August 2016 - 11:19 AM
    Osprey23

    I remembered the reason that RM did not move for Ronaldinho was he was too ugly for a Galactico.

    Ah Seng might think that Sakho's playing style is too awkward for his gunners? [:(] [:(]


    Hmm, if he does, why bother to try last summer?

    This is not reported but told to be by a credible source.

    Personally, I certainly hope Wenger just go for Plan C. Still rate Sakho
  • 16 August 2016 - 11:29 AM
    Spring

    wah Chelsea is dumping Fabregas, putting him up for sale

    most probably will go to Juventus to replace Pobga

    or will Liverpool bid for him? after all it lacks a good CM organizer after Gerrard left

    Unless Chelsea get an irresistible offer for Fabregas, I don't think he will go.

    Chelsea got�plenty of�MFs but he can still play a part cos he is the most creative. Last night, they chose to play Kante and Matic but IMO only one was required�esp against an out of sorts Hammers and�Chelsea were crying out for�Fab's well known passes. Conte didn't feel the need to bring him on though and instead changed the wings and brought on an extra striker which brought their winner.

    Conte clarified the Fabregas situation later but maybe he's just trying to be diplomatic. I still don't think he will go .

    http://www.express.c...gainst-West-Ham


    Edited by Spring, 16 August 2016 - 11:30 AM.

  • 16 August 2016 - 02:19 PM
    Scion

    just realised Everton has dumped Tony Hibbert

    this guy has been with Everton for 2 decades and they dumped him just like that.... just like how Newcastle dumped long serving Steven Taylor last season

    guess the only one-club man left in EPL is John Terry


  • 16 August 2016 - 03:07 PM
    Osprey23
    Remember the Norweigian wonder kid that Pool lost to RM last season?

    On the way to Rennes on loan.

    Zinedine Zidane has decided that midfielder Martin Odegaard will go on loan to Rennes for the 2016/17 campaign
  • 16 August 2016 - 04:35 PM
    Scion

    2 weeks left for

    Man City to get rid of Yaya

    Chelsea to get rid of Fabregas

    Liverpool to get rid of Balotelli

    Man Utd to get rid of Mata

    Arsenal to get rid of... nay they are short of players now

    [laugh]


  • 16 August 2016 - 04:47 PM
    cashcow

    Rumours that Ballotelli ask to join Italian club Sassuolo may not be concluded.

    Goal.com


  • 16 August 2016 - 04:52 PM
    L23

    2 weeks left for

    Man City to get rid of Yaya , Hart and Bony

    Chelsea to get rid of Fabregas

    Liverpool to get rid of Balotelli

    Man Utd to get rid of Mata & BS

    Arsenal to get rid of... nay they are short of players now Walcott & Ox

    [laugh]


  • 16 August 2016 - 05:58 PM
    Osprey23
    Crystal palace have bid rejected by Liverpool for Christian Benteke �23m guaranteed. �7m in add ons

    [Paul Joyce]

    They doesn't get the idea isn't it? �27m plus �3m rejected. They returned with �23m plus �7m?

    Edited: Apparebtly WBA willing to match Liverpool's valuation but Benteke not keen to join. Maybe that's why Palace low-balled.

    Edited by Osprey23, 16 August 2016 - 06:02 PM.

  • 16 August 2016 - 06:41 PM
    Aristotle

    Crystal palace have bid rejected by Liverpool for Christian Benteke £23m guaranteed. £7m in add ons

    [Paul Joyce]

    They doesn't get the idea isn't it? £27m plus £3m rejected. They returned with £23m plus £7m?

    Edited: Apparebtly WBA willing to match Liverpool's valuation but Benteke not keen to join. Maybe that's why Palace low-balled.

    It's OK. Maybe one or two more losses, Palace with come back with a �40m bid :D
  • 16 August 2016 - 07:15 PM
    Newbie26

    Agree

    But nowadays, the other most important factor is whether the player wants to leave

    If Fabregas wants to leave this window, he will go

    Unless Chelsea get an irresistible offer for Fabregas, I don't think he will go.

    Chelsea got�plenty of�MFs but he can still play a part cos he is the most creative. Last night, they chose to play Kante and Matic but IMO only one was required�esp against an out of sorts Hammers and�Chelsea were crying out for�Fab's well known passes. Conte didn't feel the need to bring him on though and instead changed the wings and brought on an extra striker which brought their winner.

    Conte clarified the Fabregas situation later but maybe he's just trying to be diplomatic. I still don't think he will go .

    http://www.express.c...gainst-West-Ham


  • 16 August 2016 - 07:25 PM
    Osprey23
    James Pearce's take on Pool's LB situation.

    http://www.liverpool...moreno-11754186
  • 16 August 2016 - 07:58 PM
    Osprey23
    David Ornstein of BBC (very reliable) is saying that Arsenal is yet to agree fee with Valencia over Mustafi because they are holding funds back for a possible striker signing.

    Although Mustafi remains priority and he is keen to join, Arsenal might be forced to consider cheaper alternatives such as Omer Toprak & Simon Kjaer
  • 16 August 2016 - 07:59 PM
    Osprey23

    Rumours that Ballotelli ask to join Italian club Sassuolo may not be concluded.

    Goal.com


    Really hope his move to Seria A can conclude soon. Any club will do.
  • 16 August 2016 - 09:17 PM
    Osprey23
    Gabigol and his dad made a survey about Inter Milan, and also talked to Miranda. The player now has doubts about going there. After recent conversations by telephone, Gabigol was not excited about a transfer to Inter Milan, and he's doubtful.

    Gabigol is very competitive and ambitious but discovered Inter Milan undergoes a transition after being sold to Suning group. In addition, Gabigol was told that Inter Milan do not have a very competitive team and power to fight for titles now.

    [UOL Esporte]

    This might explains why the agent is working hard again.
  • 16 August 2016 - 10:21 PM
    Osprey23
    More on Arsenal's pursuit of Mustafi.

    Valencia needs to recoup �10m to meet FFP. Insisting on �30m on Mustafi as he is not one who Valencia are keen to sell. Hence the hard stance.

    So if Valencia managed to off load Abdennour for more than �10m, they will entertain any bid for Mustafi.

    Arsenal really have to move fast if they want the player.
  • 16 August 2016 - 10:51 PM
    Galantspeedz

    David Ornstein of BBC (very reliable) is saying that Arsenal is yet to agree fee with Valencia over Mustafi because they are holding funds back for a possible striker signing.

    Although Mustafi remains priority and he is keen to join, Arsenal might be forced to consider cheaper alternatives such as Omer Toprak & Simon Kjaer


    Stupid... we will end up with nothing...
  • 16 August 2016 - 10:59 PM
    L23

    Stupid... we will end up with nothing...

    Which is not a bad thing !
    After all the bank Acc will be 30m more :)
  • 16 August 2016 - 11:30 PM
    cashcow
    Crystal Palace transfer news: New �30m Christian Benteke bid rejected by Liverpool

    105548696-Christian-Benteke-SPORT-large_

    Telegragh.co.uk


  • 16 August 2016 - 11:45 PM
    ins1dious

    More on Arsenal's pursuit of Mustafi.

    Valencia needs to recoup �10m to meet FFP. Insisting on �30m on Mustafi as he is not one who Valencia are keen to sell. Hence the hard stance.

    So if Valencia managed to off load Abdennour for more than �10m, they will entertain any bid for Mustafi.

    Arsenal really have to move fast if they want the player.

    The transfer strategy by Wenger is damn� :a-bang:

    Finally I think, end up not strengthening any position. Next year will probably find two of the creative/attacking players leave for cheap as they are also disillusioned with the club.

    Penny wise, pound foolish...


  • 16 August 2016 - 11:59 PM
    Osprey23
    Gary Medel is Klopp's 'greatest desire' & Liverpool have bid over �8.7M for the defensive midfielder.

    [AS Chile]

    Dunno how true is this but this price is fair. Medel is a proper baddie we need in midfield
  • 17 August 2016 - 12:20 AM
    Osprey23
    Joe Hart will leave Man City in this window (Sky Sports).

    Let the scramble begins
  • 17 August 2016 - 12:44 AM
    cashcow

    Gary Medel is Klopp's 'greatest desire' & Liverpool have bid over �8.7M for the defensive midfielder.

    [AS Chile]

    Dunno how true is this but this price is fair. Medel is a proper baddie we need in midfield

    Telegraph reported that the Reds 'have bid turn down' in race for Gary Medel.

    Ex-Cardiff City player Medel now plays for Inter Milan.

    Quite a versatile defensive player needed to bolster Pool's 'iffy' defences.


  • 17 August 2016 - 06:12 AM
    Osprey23
    Liverpool rejected Crystal Palace's latest bid for Benteke because one of the clauses was they would pay �2.5m if they got top four. (Paul Joyce)

    LOL

    Can see Pool very pissed. Leaking all these stupid add on clauses to the papers

    http://www.express.c...lan-Pardew-News

    Edited by Osprey23, 17 August 2016 - 06:19 AM.

  • 17 August 2016 - 08:00 AM
    L23

    Liverpool rejected Crystal Palace's latest bid for Benteke because one of the clauses was they would pay £2.5m if they got top four. (Paul Joyce)

    LOL

    Can see Pool very pissed. Leaking all these stupid add on clauses to the papers

    http://www.express.c...lan-Pardew-News

    Pay 2.5m for getting TOP 4?
    Haha.

    Might as well say pay double the price if they are EPL champion:)
  • 17 August 2016 - 08:37 AM
    Spring

    Liverpool rejected Crystal Palace's latest bid for Benteke because one of the clauses was they would pay �2.5m if they got top four. (Paul Joyce)

    LOL

    Can see Pool very pissed. Leaking all these stupid add on clauses to the papers

    http://www.express.c...lan-Pardew-News


    The worry about this from Pool's point of view is that Palace may decide to go for Remy now from what I read cos Pardew has managed Remy before n he is much cheaper. Pool under FSG has stood firm on sales most times n got away the better eg Sterling but I'm not too sure if it will always work. My guess is they will let him go for a slightly better price n more achievable add on clauses but don't think they can get the full 32.5mil even with add ons, my 2 cents.
  • 17 August 2016 - 09:08 AM
    Osprey23

    The worry about this from Pool's point of view is that Palace may decide to go for Remy now from what I read cos Pardew has managed Remy before n he is much cheaper. Pool under FSG has stood firm on sales most times n got away the better eg Sterling but I'm not too sure if it will always work. My guess is they will let him go for a slightly better price n more achievable add on clauses but don't think they can get the full 32.5mil even with add ons, my 2 cents.


    Agree bro. I seriously don't think Pool are looking to recoup every cents spent. I would believe a �25m with �3m of realistic addons would clinch the deal.

    Pool already has an offer on the table from WBA that matched Pool's asking. They won't back down until Palace comes up with a reasonable offer. If Palace decide to walk, so be it and Benteke will have no choice but to accept a move to WBA if he still wants to play football this season.
  • 17 August 2016 - 11:11 AM
    Fooblack

    Pay 2.5m for getting TOP 4?
    Haha.

    Might as well say pay double the price if they are EPL champion:)

    CP is a real relegation candidate this season.. judging by their form in 2016 alone... they also lost their best player bolaise..�

    so they are pretty desperate.. �Pool should play it to its advantage�


  • 17 August 2016 - 06:53 PM
    Osprey23
    Chelsea will submit a new bid of between �50m and �55m for Koulibaly, though Napoli still want to keep him. (calciomercato)
  • 17 August 2016 - 07:51 PM
    Osprey23
    Hart tipped to join Liverpool after Guardiola drops Man City goalkeeper again [MEN]

    I also think he is coming to Liverpool, but to join Everton FC
  • 17 August 2016 - 08:30 PM
    Osprey23
    Gabigol's agent Wagner Ribeiro denies Manchester United's interest in the player, and says it's just speculation. However, he did confirm offers from Juventus, Inter and Leicester City.
  • 17 August 2016 - 09:45 PM
    Osprey23
    According to SER Deportivos Valencia (a radio station), Valencia are in negotiations with Liverpool over a move for Shkodran Mustafi. The biggest plus point for Valencia to deal with Liverpool is that Luis Alberto could be included in the deal going the other way.

    Frankly, unless one of the senior CBs is leaving, I do not think there is any truth in this
  • 17 August 2016 - 09:46 PM
    Shorty
    Come on...where is the LB that pool needs. Surely not another CB.
  • 17 August 2016 - 10:25 PM
    Spring

    Come on...where is the LB that pool needs. Surely not another CB.


    I think Mustafi can play at LB. If not mistaken, thought I remember him playing at FB for Germany in the Euros though he is recognised as a CB.
  • 17 August 2016 - 10:35 PM
    Osprey23

    Come on...where is the LB that pool needs. Surely not another CB.

    Hehe, I give up liao. Will just trust Klopp on his assessment. If he think Moreno and Milner are good enough to last us this season. I will just back his decision.

    Mustafi I seriously think is Valencia using us to force Arsenal to act.

    Also, Spanish paper Cadena reported Liverpool offered �10m+Alberto for Mustafi which was rejected, they want closer to their �25m valuation.

    Who in the right mind will think that Luis Alberto is worth �15m??

    Edited by Osprey23, 17 August 2016 - 10:43 PM.

  • 18 August 2016 - 06:34 AM
    Osprey23
    Riyad Mahrez has signed a new 4-year contract at Leicester City.

    Not sure how much is the release clause though :D
  • 18 August 2016 - 06:54 AM
    Picnic06-Biante15

    According to SER Deportivos Valencia (a radio station), Valencia are in negotiations with Liverpool over a move for Shkodran Mustafi. The biggest plus point for Valencia to deal with Liverpool is that Luis Alberto could be included in the deal going the other way.

    Frankly, unless one of the senior CBs is leaving, I do not think there is any truth in this

    Forgot where I had read a report on an interview with�Shkodran Mustafi that he was actually interested of coming to Liverpool.

    It was the club that will decide to release him if any clubs offer is too good to reject. If a player wishes to come to Pool knowing that Pool will not feature in UCL, he is [thumbsup]


  • 18 August 2016 - 09:01 AM
    Osprey23

    Forgot where I had read a report on an interview with Shkodran Mustafi that he was actually interested of coming to Liverpool.

    It was the club that will decide to release him if any clubs offer is too good to reject. If a player wishes to come to Pool knowing that Pool will not feature in UCL, he is [thumbsup]


    James Pearce has rubbished both links to Medel and Mustafi.

    Still believe Arsenal will be his most likely destination if he is to come to England
  • 18 August 2016 - 09:19 AM
    Fooblack

    Hehe, I give up liao. Will just trust Klopp on his assessment. If he think Moreno and Milner are good enough to last us this season. I will just back his decision.

    Mustafi I seriously think is Valencia using us to force Arsenal to act.

    Also, Spanish paper Cadena reported Liverpool offered �10m+Alberto for Mustafi which was rejected, they want closer to their �25m valuation.

    Who in the right mind will think that Luis Alberto is worth �15m??

    i firmly believe the non-actions of Klopp is highly due to the lack of available options (at right price) at the moment. It is clear as daylight Pool needs to reinforce this position.�

    Alberto needs to justify his place in the squad in the meantime when given the chance. I think Milner will be starting more games than him when fit at the moment, until Moreno clears his head (and that pony-tail)...�


  • 18 August 2016 - 11:38 AM
    Osprey23

    i firmly believe the non-actions of Klopp is highly due to the lack of available options (at right price) at the moment. It is clear as daylight Pool needs to reinforce this position.

    Alberto needs to justify his place in the squad in the meantime when given the chance. I think Milner will be starting more games than him when fit at the moment, until Moreno clears his head (and that pony-tail)...


    I have a feeling Klopp has in mind what kind of LB he has in mind. It seems to me that he places more emphasis on the full backs offensive ability of defensive. If he wants a LB who is solid at defending, Hector is there for him to sign. Paying �20m is not beyond us but apparently we walked away.

    Agree with you that maybe there isn't one who fits the profile and is available at the right price.

    Klopp with the long term contract, seems to be more patient to wait for the right player. Dahoud is a good example.
  • 18 August 2016 - 12:45 PM
    Spring

    I have a feeling Klopp has in mind what kind of LB he has in mind. It seems to me that he places more emphasis on the full backs offensive ability of defensive. If he wants a LB who is solid at defending, Hector is there for him to sign. Paying �20m is not beyond us but apparently we walked away.

    Agree with you that maybe there isn't one who fits the profile and is available at the right price.

    Klopp with the long term contract, seems to be more patient to wait for the right player. Dahoud is a good example.

    Reading some reports Pool in for Dutchman Bruno Martins Indi? He is versatile as can play CB and LB but I don't think he is particularly good at going forward if I remember when he played for the Dutch national team. This guy's a real defender so maybe just rumours.


  • 18 August 2016 - 01:23 PM
    Osprey23

    Reading some reports Pool in for Dutchman Bruno Martins Indi? He is versatile as can play CB and LB but I don't think he is particularly good at going forward if I remember when he played for the Dutch national team. This guy's a real defender so maybe just rumours.


    Read it. Same as Mustafi imo. If none of the senior CB moving on, I don't see why we need to sign him. Klavan already can play LB if need be.
  • 18 August 2016 - 04:58 PM
    cashcow

    This is a naughty cutie poke�

    Mediawatch: Joe Hart is off to Liverpool

    Football365

    :D:D


    Edited by cashcow, 18 August 2016 - 05:01 PM.

  • 18 August 2016 - 05:16 PM
    Osprey23

    This is a naughty cutie poke

    Mediawatch: Joe Hart is off to Liverpool

    Football365

    :D :D


    I also believe he is heading to Liverpool

    To join Everton
  • 18 August 2016 - 05:45 PM
    Spurman

    I also believe he is heading to Liverpool

    To join Everton

    That everton currebt goalie very good leh. Stopped spurs from winning leh.

    Hart now becoming the next paul robinson.

    England ruined him
  • 18 August 2016 - 05:59 PM
    Spring

    That everton currebt goalie very good leh. Stopped spurs from winning leh.

    Hart now becoming the next paul robinson.

    England ruined him

    Maarten Stekelenburg was the Dutch National team goalie for many years and I felt he was up amongst the top goalies at one stage but don't know how come he lost his way and�I was surprised he ended up at Fulham and then went on loan to other teams and now back to EPL with Everton.

    You can see he's quite a good goalie though maybe he's not consistent and makes errors now and then but then again which goalie doesn't? Ironically, he reminds me of Joe Hart!! Good shot stopper many a times but prone to the odd mistake.

    It seems Pep wants a sweeper keeper for City which Hart certainly is not. These days damn cham, FB expected to attack on top of defending, keeper expected to be a sweeper n good with his feet and distribution!!�


  • 18 August 2016 - 06:13 PM
    cashcow

    Maarten Stekelenburg was the Dutch National team goalie for many years and I felt he was up amongst the top goalies at one stage but don't know how come he lost his way and�I was surprised he ended up at Fulham and then went on loan to other teams and now back to EPL with Everton.

    You can see he's quite a good goalie though maybe he's not consistent and makes errors now and then but then again which goalie doesn't? Ironically, he reminds me of Joe Hart!! Good shot stopper many a times but prone to the odd mistake.

    It seems Pep wants a sweeper keeper for City which Hart certainly is not. These days damn cham, FB expected to attack on top of defending, keeper expected to be a sweeper n good with his feet and distribution!!�

    Joe Hart is a good top GK under normal circumstances, but tends to fumble on big occasions, the recent Euro 2016 is a case in point. Man City probably is too big a shoe for him under Pep Guardiola.

    He is like Tim Howard who didn't do well in Man U, yet did great for Everton/USA.

    Maybe if he moves to Liverpool (I mean Everton), he will be annointed the "King"(not God) of Merseyside. � :D


  • 19 August 2016 - 06:21 AM
    Osprey23
    Benteke to Palace done.

    Pool accepted Palace's bid of �27m + �5m.

    Next out would be Luis Alberto. �5m to Valencia
  • 19 August 2016 - 06:53 AM
    Bacteria83
    Hope big Ben do well for CP except against Pool. So we have every chance to get that 5mil add on :D
  • 19 August 2016 - 09:12 AM
    Atrecord

    Hope big Ben do well for CP except against Pool. So we have every chance to get that 5mil add on :D

    Yah, how about he fulfils the potential and hope that we harboured when Pool signed him, which is to score against all other teams (but not incl. Pool, since we didn't expect him to score against us when we signed him, right?), and win more points - especially against the top sides. Then can help Pool too� [laugh]

    Talking of which, didn't CP and Pardew hate Ben when he came on, earned that penalty at the death and scored it to win all 3 points last season? Looks like Pool is not the only team who likes to sign players who scored against it� [:p]


  • 19 August 2016 - 09:16 AM
    Othello
    CP has no choice. Their strikers cmi, while Benteke is still a proven BPL player
  • 19 August 2016 - 10:05 AM
    Scion

    salah boh?

    Johnny Evans also worths 20m pounds? [hur]

    More bad news for Arsenal fans: The club have failed in the transfer market, again. This time, it's a �16m move for West Bromwich Albion defender Jonny Evans that has been knocked back, according to the Birmingham Mail, with an offer upwards of �20m needed to prise the former Manchester United man away from the Hawthorns.


  • 19 August 2016 - 10:13 AM
    Scion

    how come Liverpool din express interest in Fabio Coentrao?

    tio�frozen out by Marcelo at Real Madrid and spent his season on loan... but still a�good LB

    missed out Euro 2016 (and the trophy) though


  • 19 August 2016 - 10:22 AM
    L23

    salah boh?

    Johnny Evans also worths 20m pounds? [hur]

    Wait some more ..

    Later one more cb injured, the price will be 40m.

    German young cb priced at 25m don't want, chose one manu reject at a much older age at 20m.� :a-bang::a-bang:

    AW, 5m is a small money to your club leh..

    But the talent you can get is a HUGE diff !!


  • 19 August 2016 - 10:50 AM
    Othello

    how come Liverpool din express interest in Fabio Coentrao?

    tio�frozen out by Marcelo at Real Madrid and spent his season on loan... but still a�good LB

    missed out Euro 2016 (and the trophy) though

    he was the next best thing till he went to RM. Then everything went down south. My guess ? Lousy attitude� [;)]


  • 19 August 2016 - 11:08 AM
    Spring

    salah boh?

    Johnny Evans also worths 20m pounds? [hur]

    Wenger claims it's tough to find�value in the transfer market and English clubs are being targeted for high prices which�is true but that doesn't mean you stop buying if you need a player.

    Anyway it's not only the overseas clubs targeting English clubs but even English clubs setting high prices for their players as can be seen from Everton asking 75mil for Lukaku and WBA now asking 20mil for Evans etc. and as the clock ticks ever closer to 31/8, prices might be even higher for desperate buyers.

    http://www.mirror.co...-market-8655625


  • 19 August 2016 - 11:20 AM
    Scion

    also kena spoilt market by Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea

    rather than overpaying for an average player, might as well spend�that amount of�money in the youth academy and hope one or two wonderkids can step up

    Wenger claims it's tough to find�value in the transfer market and English clubs are being targeted for high prices which�is true but that doesn't mean you stop buying if you need a player.

    Anyway it's not only the overseas clubs targeting English clubs but even English clubs setting high prices for their players as can be seen from Everton asking 75mil for Lukaku and WBA now asking 20mil for Evans etc. and as the clock ticks ever closer to 31/8, prices might be even higher for desperate buyers.

    http://www.mirror.co...-market-8655625


  • 19 August 2016 - 11:29 AM
    Spurman
    Spurs also one of the niao club.. maybe more niao than arsenal. But they lucky. Got alli for so cheap.

    Eriksen. Alderweid. Wayang. Lloris all on the cheap.

    No wonder they also unwilling to splurge big.

    They like arsenal also looking for value.

    Unfortunately competitiors are splurging like money is water.

    So i can say spurs n arsenal really need to rethink or lose out further unless their value proved otherwise
  • 19 August 2016 - 11:43 AM
    Atrecord

    salah boh?

    Johnny Evans also worths 20m pounds? [hur]

    wah lao... quick, somebody phone Pool to hold the 32m Benteke deal, ask to raise it to at least 40m...

    how come Pool's sale of Allen and Ibe both should be worth at least 1.5x of Evans, but sold so cheaply???

    Somebody said the EPL market is crazy.

    I agree totally.


  • 19 August 2016 - 12:05 PM
    Spring

    also kena spoilt market by Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea

    rather than overpaying for an average player, might as well spend�that amount of�money in the youth academy and hope one or two wonderkids can step up

    In theory, yes spending on own youth academy is the best investment but can you wait for potential to be realized**? Fans are impatient, the Board is impatient and actually everyone is impatient so sadly, youth players don't get much chance esp at top clubs.

    If I were to be a youth player, I'll select a smaller club where my chance of�breaking in to the first team�is higher but then again the rewards at the top clubs make them a�natural draw for the better youth players.

    Lastly, yes market is being spolit by the 3 big spenders and some other clubs�as well but we're in a very practical world where if you don't pay the going rate, you don't get the players to bolster your squad and don't come crying later saying no value, we can't compete financially�etc cos it's who dares wins!

    **Edited: if it gets realized at all!!


    Edited by Spring, 19 August 2016 - 12:27 PM.

  • 19 August 2016 - 12:16 PM
    Othello

    Spurs also one of the niao club.. maybe more niao than arsenal. But they lucky. Got alli for so cheap.

    Eriksen. Alderweid. Wayang. Lloris all on the cheap.

    No wonder they also unwilling to splurge big.

    They like arsenal also looking for value.

    Unfortunately competitiors are splurging like money is water.

    So i can say spurs n arsenal really need to rethink or lose out further unless their value proved otherwise

    confirmed. read somewhere that the top earner is Lloris at 75-80kpw ? come'on, lousy sterling already earning 180k and Fabian Delph 90k


  • 19 August 2016 - 12:45 PM
    Spring

    Spurs also one of the niao club.. maybe more niao than arsenal. But they lucky. Got alli for so cheap.

    Eriksen. Alderweid. Wayang. Lloris all on the cheap.

    No wonder they also unwilling to splurge big.

    They like arsenal also looking for value.

    Unfortunately competitiors are splurging like money is water.

    So i can say spurs n arsenal really need to rethink or lose out further unless their value proved otherwise

    I don't know who more niao, Wenger or Levy?? haha [laugh]

    Actually I think Wenger more niao cos Levy good at low balling whereas Wenger don't even bother to low ball!!


    Edited by Spring, 19 August 2016 - 12:46 PM.

  • 19 August 2016 - 12:49 PM
    Spring

    Barca getting Dutch National Team keeper Cillesen as replacement for the outgoing Bravo.

    Sell 17mil, buy 10mil provided Ajax accepts. Younger keeper but Bravo supposedly the better keeper on paper and def more experienced.

    http://www.dailymail...ester-City.html


  • 19 August 2016 - 01:45 PM
    Gizmore

    I don't know who more niao, Wenger or Levy?? haha [laugh]

    Actually I think Wenger more niao cos Levy good at low balling whereas Wenger don't even bother to low ball!!$0

    40 million plus 1 pound is considered low-balling lor. No?


  • 19 August 2016 - 01:57 PM
    Spring

    40 million plus 1 pound is considered low-balling lor. No?

    Seriously speaking I don't treat it as low balling but niao�cos it did exceed the suspected buy out clause by 1pound. Low balling is putting in an offer well below the expected price. Wenger feels market overpriced so he won't even�bother to put in a bid whereas Levy will try his luck [laugh]


  • 19 August 2016 - 02:19 PM
    Gizmore

    Seriously speaking I don't treat it as low balling but niao�cos it did exceed the suspected buy out clause by 1pound. Low balling is putting in an offer well below the expected price. Wenger feels market overpriced so he won't even�bother to put in a bid whereas Levy will try his luck [laugh]

    The market price for Suarez is definitely well above 40 million and 1 pound. That offer was definitely a low-ball offer and also trying his luck.�

    Not targeting against your comment but I'm just so disgusted by Arsene Wenger.�

    If there is one other team (besides Liverpool) that I would support to win the title, it would be Arsenal. A big club (at least Emirates stadium is much bigger then Anfield) like Arsenal does not have to try their luck in the transfer market. If a manager is serious about getting a player, the club should offer what is worth, rather than a value that is just (by a hair width) above the release clause.�


  • 19 August 2016 - 02:22 PM
    Osprey23

    Barca getting Dutch National Team keeper Cillesen as replacement for the outgoing Bravo.
    Sell 17mil, buy 10mil provided Ajax accepts. Younger keeper but Bravo supposedly the better keeper on paper and def more experienced.

    http://www.dailymail...ester-City.html


    Ter Stegen will be the first choice with Cillessen as back up.
  • 19 August 2016 - 02:40 PM
    Spring

    The market price for Suarez is definitely well above 40 million and 1 pound. That offer was definitely a low-ball offer and also trying his luck.�

    Not targeting against your comment but I'm just so disgusted by Arsene Wenger.�

    If there is one other team (besides Liverpool) that I would support to win the title, it would be Arsenal. A big club (at least Emirates stadium is much bigger then Anfield) like Arsenal does not have to try their luck in the transfer market. If a manager is serious about getting a player, the club should offer what is worth, rather than a value that is just (by a hair width) above the release clause.�

    No worries, I agree and that's why I had few posts on this cos I also strongly disagree on his methods. Just imagine, we are not Arsenal fans n we�feel so bad about it, what more the paying supporters at the Emirates? Even 2 of their ex-players said so.......

    http://www.skysports...ays-niall-Quinn

    http://www.ibtimes.c...-window-1576338


  • 19 August 2016 - 02:44 PM
    Spurman
    Looking back. Shearer 15m in 1996 is like 100m today.
  • 19 August 2016 - 02:47 PM
    Spring

    Ter Stegen will be the first choice with Cillessen as back up.

    Tks for the info!! If I were Cillessen, I won't go to Barca cos my National team place will be in jeopardy with the lack of playing time. Admittedly, the lure of being a Barca player is strong and so too the $.

    Maybe Cillessen is�confident of his ability to oust�Ter Stegen? Normally, it's hard for a�no. 2 goalie to oust the no. 1 unless the no. 1 had continuous bad games or he got injures and the no. 2 performed spectacularly well.�Anyway good luck to Cillessen!�


  • 19 August 2016 - 02:49 PM
    Noob79

    Barca getting Dutch National Team keeper Cillesen as replacement for the outgoing Bravo.

    Sell 17mil, buy 10mil provided Ajax accepts. Younger keeper but Bravo supposedly the better keeper on paper and def more experienced.

    http://www.dailymail...ester-City.html

    Kinda difficult for them to maintain the same rotation for these 2 top goalkeepers whereby 1 starts the league matches and the other one starts the cup matches...� gk are supposed to start every matches to build a good understanding with the defense


  • 19 August 2016 - 03:00 PM
    Spring

    Kinda difficult for them to maintain the same rotation for these 2 top goalkeepers whereby 1 starts the league matches and the other one starts the cup matches...� gk are supposed to start every matches to build a good understanding with the defense

    Exactly! I'm not really a fan of rotating goalies but admittedly some 1st team game time needs to be given to an equal adversary. Unlike outfield players who can be played in a diff position, u can't do this for a goalie but it has been proven many times how important a 2nd goalie is so good move by Barca to get a good goalie as back up!


  • 19 August 2016 - 03:09 PM
    Osprey23

    Tks for the info!! If I were Cillessen, I won't go to Barca cos my National team place will be in jeopardy with the lack of playing time. Admittedly, the lure of being a Barca player is strong and so too the $.

    Maybe Cillessen is confident of his ability to oust Ter Stegen? Normally, it's hard for a no. 2 goalie to oust the no. 1 unless the no. 1 had continuous bad games or he got injures and the no. 2 performed spectacularly well. Anyway good luck to Cillessen!


    From Barcelona's perspective, best scenario would be both keepers fighting over the No.1 spot. However, at the end of the day, you still need to decide who is No.1.

    Barcelona might adopt the same strategy of having one for league and one for cup games.
  • 19 August 2016 - 03:50 PM
    Noob79

    Exactly! I'm not really a fan of rotating goalies but admittedly some 1st team game time needs to be given to an equal adversary. Unlike outfield players who can be played in a diff position, u can't do this for a goalie but it has been proven many times how important a 2nd goalie is so good move by Barca to get a good goalie as back up!

    Yup, it is a critical position, if your backup is a joker, that is it... however, if u got 2 equally capable men vying for this position,one will definitely be unhappy and seek a move away, just like Diego Lopez, it was the same for him at Real Madrid and now he is equally unhappy at AC Milan...


  • 19 August 2016 - 03:53 PM
    Osprey23
    Good read.

    Wenger sharing his thoughts on transfers. Worrying that English clubs will be suffocated in this 2-tier value systems. Also with the high wages paid, players will be more difficult to be offloaded and even if they are, clubs continue to subsidise their wages.

    http://www.telegraph...-transfer-mark/

    Last para backed up what I said previously on the criteria set by Wenger. Doesn't mean Wenger only looking at young players when looking at potential targets.
  • 19 August 2016 - 04:28 PM
    Osprey23
    Spurs resurrecting the deal to sign France Under-21 international and Marseille winger Georges-Kevin N�Koudou, according to Sky Sports News

    He agreed terms and passed medical before the deal fell through due to Levy interfering
  • 19 August 2016 - 07:47 PM
    Osprey23
    Mario Balotelli move to Lazio pick up pace as the player is looking for a house near Rome. (Il Messaggero)

    Dunno why, I enjoyed the outgoing more than incoming for Pool this Window. :D
  • 19 August 2016 - 08:33 PM
    Osprey23
    Joe Hart is interested in a move to Sevilla but such a deal would mean Man City subsidising his �140,000-a-week salary. (Source: Daily Mail)

    That's what Wenger meant I guess
  • 19 August 2016 - 10:44 PM
    Osprey23
    At this moment, still no agreement between Benteke and Palace. Negotiations still ongoing - not sure it will be done today.

    [Sven Claes, Belgium HLN journalist]
  • 19 August 2016 - 11:53 PM
    cashcow

    Joe Hart is interested in a move to Sevilla but such a deal would mean Man City subsidising his �140,000-a-week salary. (Source: Daily Mail)

    That's what Wenger meant I guess

    I reckon disproportionate wage inflation is only an English phenomena and not applicable to other EU clubs other than the traditional European football powerhouses.

    This will affect English clubs when they want to clear non performing players and this Joe Hart example is a glaring one.

    I hope that clubs like Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs and others maintain their financial prudence, otherwise there will be nothing except bloating troubles ahead.

    Feel sorry for poor Joe. Pep Guardiola means business, serious business.

    Arsene Wenger: English clubs are 'suffocating' in the transfer market


    Edited by cashcow, 20 August 2016 - 12:11 AM.

  • 20 August 2016 - 08:02 AM
    Osprey23

    At this moment, still no agreement between Benteke and Palace. Negotiations still ongoing - not sure it will be done today.

    [Sven Claes, Belgium HLN journalist]

    Update: All is done.

    Announcement later in the day. Will not be in time for Big Ben to play against Spurs.

    Edited by Osprey23, 20 August 2016 - 08:02 AM.

  • 20 August 2016 - 08:43 AM
    Osprey23
    DEAL DONE: Watford have signed midfielder Roberto Pereyra from Juventus on a long-term deal.

    Watford are benefitting from the Italian owners they have apparently
  • 20 August 2016 - 09:43 AM
    Ngseeming

    It's quite obvious there would be "2 tier" markets, one for the european leagues and one for EPL.

    Even in wet market, will one sell the provisions at the same price to a dressed up lady with maid in attendance as compared to a simply dressed housewife? It's the same in all other trades where prices are negotiable.

    Even before the huge jump in TV money, the bottom clubs of EPL earned more than that those at or near the top of other leagues, eg Atletico and BVB.

    Last years champion Leicester earn about 100 mil in TV money when Aresenal topped with about 110 mil by virtue of no. of live telecasts.

    For the next 3 years, the relegated clubs will get 99 mil (then the parachute money) while the champion will get about 165 mil.

    Arsenal last reported cash in hand according to BBC is about 220 mil.

    If you want the right player at the right price, then you can wait long long. Like bro Spring said we not being Arsenal fans (had loved watching them esp during Henry and Bergkamp time)� already feel fed up. Really feel for the fans.


  • 20 August 2016 - 09:56 AM
    Ngseeming

    I hope that clubs like Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs and others maintain their financial prudence, otherwise there will be nothing except bloating troubles ahead.

    Arsene Wenger: English clubs are 'suffocating' in the transfer market

    And places outside the top 4.

    In any industries, if you don't spend on R&D, recruitment and innovations and still hope to stay on top. [knife] [knife]

    Success breeds success.

    Invest in youth academy and be a selling club?

    Hope the youth who become stars will stay on "meager" wages and lack of playing time?


  • 20 August 2016 - 11:30 AM
    Osprey23

    And places outside the top 4.

    In any industries, if you don't spend on R&D, recruitment and innovations and still hope to stay on top. [knife] [knife]

    Success breeds success.

    Invest in youth academy and be a selling club?

    Hope the youth who become stars will stay on "meager" wages and lack of playing time?


    There are more than one way to achieve success. Investing on youth does not mean you become a selling club.

    Think back. Before Man Utd started their domination in the 90s, what enabled it. Look at Barcelona. This team is built from academy, or spent millions to assembled.

    i am not against spending. I am just not convinced that this is the ONLY way
  • 20 August 2016 - 12:14 PM
    Galantspeedz

    DEAL DONE: Watford have signed midfielder Roberto Pereyra from Juventus on a long-term deal.

    Watford are benefitting from the Italian owners they have apparently


    Huh? He very highly rated in fifa...Argentina international right?
  • 20 August 2016 - 01:18 PM
    Spring

    There are more than one way to achieve success. Investing on youth does not mean you become a selling club.

    Think back. Before Man Utd started their domination in the 90s, what enabled it. Look at Barcelona. This team is built from academy, or spent millions to assembled.

    i am not against spending. I am just not convinced that this is the ONLY way


    Totally agreed it's not the ONLY way. Try telling that to Wenger whose ONLY way is to buy value!
    Clubs have to invest in youth for sure, supporters like nothing better than a home grown talent to work his way into the first team n that's why they often cut them more slack than a big money purchase.

    That said, when your academy doesn't have a player to fill a position that requires urgent filling, u have to look at the transfer mkt to fill it n if it means paying abit more, so be it. Of course not the kind of money that buys Higuain nor the price that Lukaku is quoted at. 25-30mil for Mustafi is high but not crazy.
  • 20 August 2016 - 01:39 PM
    Osprey23

    Totally agreed it's not the ONLY way. Try telling that to Wenger whose ONLY way is to buy value!
    Clubs have to invest in youth for sure, supporters like nothing better than a home grown talent to work his way into the first team n that's why they often cut them more slack than a big money purchase.

    That said, when your academy doesn't have a player to fill a position that requires urgent filling, u have to look at the transfer mkt to fill it n if it means paying abit more, so be it. Of course not the kind of money that buys Higuain nor the price that Lukaku is quoted at. 25-30mil for Mustafi is high but not crazy.


    Agree totally. But if we look at Cech, isn't it a signing to fill a position that they have no immediate talent to fill? Talking about value, I am not sure if Xhaka at �30m is exactly that.

    Therefore, I do believe Wenger, although trying to get value buys whenever he can, has accepted that overpaying for some might be inevitable.

    Mustafi is a strange situation. My opinion is that they can afford but for some reasons, are unwilling to push it through. Let's see how this develops.
  • 20 August 2016 - 03:50 PM
    Spurman
    Actually hor. I would like arsenal not to challenge for anything and that they deteriote and wenger leaves and the team in shambles.

    But i respect this ah seng wanker. Those gooners sibei ungrateful. Where the f**k were the fans when arsenal won the title. Many cups under ah seng. Mind u this arsenal last time sibei many ppl dun like to watch them one. Coz they defensive minded n play long balls one and at one point of time in mid 90s sliding down.

    But came ah seng to rescue the club.. now the very grateful fans at that time wan2 turn on him again. Haiz... real hyposcry rite.

    Anyway whining from a spurs fan. Hehe. Coz during this period spurs declined. No trophies. Only some worthless cup n finish below the gooners every time. Sibei sianz one.

    And then out of the blue. The girl guide in london became rich overnight and spoil market by paying for players and heng heng got success n then eatablish themselves as a bigger club.

    Then anoter blue man citeh came along and also bought the title.

    Now got 2 new big clubs to concern with liao. Haiz
  • 20 August 2016 - 04:57 PM
    Osprey23
    Diego Lopez is expected to join Chelsea from AC Milan in the next few days as back-up for Thibaut Courtois. [Mirror]

    Isn't Bergovic there as No.2?

    Another player not joining Chelsea would be Lukaku. According to Koeman, Lukaku had committed to him that he would be staying at Everton

    Edited by Osprey23, 20 August 2016 - 05:05 PM.

  • 20 August 2016 - 05:09 PM
    Osprey23
    Antonio Conte has described the transfer market as "crazy", saying clubs are now asking for "�55m" for "medium talent". (Source: Telegraph)

    Lol, welcome to the PL, Mr Conte.
  • 20 August 2016 - 05:16 PM
    Beregond

    Actually hor. I would like arsenal not to challenge for anything and that they deteriote and wenger leaves and the team in shambles.

    But i respect this ah seng wanker. Those gooners sibei ungrateful. Where the f**k were the fans when arsenal won the title. Many cups under ah seng. Mind u this arsenal last time sibei many ppl dun like to watch them one. Coz they defensive minded n play long balls one and at one point of time in mid 90s sliding down.

    But came ah seng to rescue the club.. now the very grateful fans at that time wan2 turn on him again. Haiz... real hyposcry rite.

    Anyway whining from a spurs fan. Hehe. Coz during this period spurs declined. No trophies. Only some worthless cup n finish below the gooners every time. Sibei sianz one.

    And then out of the blue. The girl guide in london became rich overnight and spoil market by paying for players and heng heng got success n then eatablish themselves as a bigger club.

    Then anoter blue man citeh came along and also bought the title.

    Now got 2 new big clubs to concern with liao. Haiz

    not really, under�George Graham� they are doing quite well also .

    i love his style. [;)]


  • 20 August 2016 - 06:09 PM
    Osprey23

    Update: All is done.

    Announcement later in the day. Will not be in time for Big Ben to play against Spurs.


    Confirmed.

    All the best Big Ben!

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  • 20 August 2016 - 06:43 PM
    Galantspeedz

    Actually hor. I would like arsenal not to challenge for anything and that they deteriote and wenger leaves and the team in shambles.

    But i respect this ah seng wanker. Those gooners sibei ungrateful. Where the f**k were the fans when arsenal won the title. Many cups under ah seng. Mind u this arsenal last time sibei many ppl dun like to watch them one. Coz they defensive minded n play long balls one and at one point of time in mid 90s sliding down.

    But came ah seng to rescue the club.. now the very grateful fans at that time wan2 turn on him again. Haiz... real hyposcry rite.

    Anyway whining from a spurs fan. Hehe. Coz during this period spurs declined. No trophies. Only some worthless cup n finish below the gooners every time. Sibei sianz one.

    And then out of the blue. The girl guide in london became rich overnight and spoil market by paying for players and heng heng got success n then eatablish themselves as a bigger club.

    Then anoter blue man citeh came along and also bought the title.

    Now got 2 new big clubs to concern with liao. Haiz


    Have you all had a.manager that won nothing for 10 yrs? Did you all even have a manager for 10 yrs

    It's quite obvious there would be "2 tier" markets, one for the european leagues and one for EPL.

    Even in wet market, will one sell the provisions at the same price to a dressed up lady with maid in attendance as compared to a simply dressed housewife? It's the same in all other trades where prices are negotiable.

    Even before the huge jump in TV money, the bottom clubs of EPL earned more than that those at or near the top of other leagues, eg Atletico and BVB.

    Last years champion Leicester earn about 100 mil in TV money when Aresenal topped with about 110 mil by virtue of no. of live telecasts.

    For the next 3 years, the relegated clubs will get 99 mil (then the parachute money) while the champion will get about 165 mil.

    Arsenal last reported cash in hand according to BBC is about 220 mil.

    If you want the right player at the right price, then you can wait long long. Like bro Spring said we not being Arsenal fans (had loved watching them esp during Henry and Bergkamp time) already feel fed up. Really feel for the fans.


    Can I ask you something? Do you support money or man u?
  • 20 August 2016 - 08:18 PM
    Spring

    Diego Lopez is expected to join Chelsea from AC Milan in the next few days as back-up for Thibaut Courtois. [Mirror]

    Isn't Bergovic there as No.2?

    Another player not joining Chelsea would be Lukaku. According to Koeman, Lukaku had committed to him that he would be staying at Everton


    Either Lopez becomes the 3rd choice goalie or something's happening to Begovic. Think more likely the former. Don't underestimate the need for a good 3rd goalie as we saw last season when Courtois got injured n also this season at Pool with Karius.

    That's why I don't know whether Pep is brave or he is silly being so blunt with Hart. Till Bravo actually comes, he's playing a dangerous game if u ask me as if something happens to Caballero, he doesn't have a 3rd quality goalie! Outfield players not really an issue to ostracise someone but not a specialised position like goalie. Anyway Pep Shld know better so who am I to question him.
  • 21 August 2016 - 01:37 PM
    ins1dious

    Gaffer a bit cheesed off in the interview... I feel for him... fan expectations are so crazy nowadays... I'm guilty of wishing for some variables to change as well... the following quote is telling of how he feels.

    After the match, the Frenchman made a passionate defence of the accusation he is reluctant to spend and promised he would spend astonishing amounts on the right player.

    �Why do you say I am reluctant? I don�t understand that,� said Wenger. � If we find players who can strengthen our team we are not reluctant. I would spend �300m if I find the right player and I have �300m.�
    He could not hide his disappointment to be thrown questions about finance and transfers in the immediate aftermath of an intense match with quite a lot on the line, even at this early stage of the campaign.
    �Unfortunately, nobody speaks about the performance of Rob Holding,� Wenger went on. �You should be happy � he is English, he is 20. But I am sorry he didn�t cost �55m so he cannot be good. He had an outstanding performance for a young boy who has never played in the Premier League up against a great player. We don�t talk about the players any more. We speak about anything else than football.�

    COYG!


    Edited by ins1dious, 21 August 2016 - 01:38 PM.

  • 22 August 2016 - 10:47 AM
    Ngseeming

    Have you all had a.manager that won nothing for 10 yrs? Did you all even have a manager for 10 yrs

    Can I ask you something? Do you support money or man u?

    I would marry the one I love. But if it turned out that she is rich ..... [:p] [:p]


  • 22 August 2016 - 04:04 PM
    Osprey23
    Valencia wants �50m for Mustafi

    Time to show them the middle finger :D
  • 22 August 2016 - 04:08 PM
    Spring

    Valencia wants �50m for Mustafi

    Time to show them the middle finger :D

    If really at this price, I won't blame Wenger for not budging cos this is crazy even in today's market!

    Want to carrot head Arsenal so they meet FFP and get a Pedro as well.

    Peter Lim, want to make money also not like that lah� [laugh]


  • 22 August 2016 - 04:09 PM
    Osprey23

    That's why I don't know whether Pep is brave or he is silly being so blunt with Hart. Till Bravo actually comes, he's playing a dangerous game if u ask me as if something happens to Caballero, he doesn't have a 3rd quality goalie! Outfield players not really an issue to ostracise someone but not a specialised position like goalie. Anyway Pep Shld know better so who am I to question him.


    Hart won't be sold until Bravo is in. So I think they are still quite covered in that aspect.
  • 22 August 2016 - 04:13 PM
    Spring

    Hart won't be sold until Bravo is in. So I think they are still quite covered in that aspect.

    You think so? I mean being covered?

    With all due respect, Caballero whilst decent is not top 4 level goalie so if Bravo gets suspended or injured, City might be found wanting I feel. I don't quite agree on the ostracizing of Hart,�could have been handled better but apparently Pep�has done this before at his previous clubs but first time for a goalie if not mistaken. We shall see.


  • 22 August 2016 - 04:30 PM
    Osprey23

    You think so? I mean being covered?

    With all due respect, Caballero whilst decent is not top 4 level goalie so if Bravo gets suspended or injured, City might be found wanting I feel. I don't quite agree on the ostracizing of Hart, could have been handled better but apparently Pep has done this before at his previous clubs but first time for a goalie if not mistaken. We shall see.

    Hmm, said it before Pep took over at City that he doesn't rate Hart.

    Don't think it is ostracising him. If he willing to stay as 3rd choice, Pep won't mind a bit I think.

    Anyway, hearing a bid from Everton is in

    Edited by Osprey23, 22 August 2016 - 04:31 PM.

  • 22 August 2016 - 04:33 PM
    Galantspeedz

    Valencia wants �50m for Mustafi

    Time to show them the middle finger :D


    Always rem this... peter is a man u fan...
  • 22 August 2016 - 04:53 PM
    Genes

    Always rem this... peter is a man u fan...

    Though the only thing that he loves more than Man Utd is his money


  • 22 August 2016 - 04:57 PM
    L23

    Valencia wants �50m for Mustafi

    Time to show them the middle finger :D

    This sound normal actually.

    I was surprised at 25m initially when gunner going for him. [hur]

    AW must be cursing himself not to give that extra 5m back then...

    I think he have no choice now but to pay 20m for that manu reject liao..


  • 22 August 2016 - 06:36 PM
    Galantspeedz

    Though the only thing that he loves more than Man Utd is his money

    in this case... he can have both....


  • 22 August 2016 - 10:43 PM
    Osprey23
    Klopp on transfer speculation. "I wait for the day when the transfer window is closed. I can't believe how obsessed you all are with this."

    I can sense he is obviously pissed about so many people telling him who to sign.

    I seriously think that Klopp wants to build and does not believe in using transfers to solve all problems.
  • 23 August 2016 - 06:14 AM
    Osprey23
    Liverpool are considering sending Sakho out on loan

    Official stance is that he needs to play elsewhere to regain his form and fitness.

    Personally, I feel he had pissed Klopp so much that his Anfield future is gone.
  • 23 August 2016 - 06:43 AM
    Osprey23
    New agreement reached today between Tottenham Hotspur & Marseille for Georges-Kevin N'Koudou worth �11.5m.

    [RMC]
  • 23 August 2016 - 08:59 AM
    Fooblack

    Liverpool are considering sending Sakho out on loan

    Official stance is that he needs to play elsewhere to regain his form and fitness.

    Personally, I feel he had pissed Klopp so much that his Anfield future is gone.

    hope he stays and Klopp gives him a chance. Pool only has Matip as the other 1st team CB. He is kind of untested in the EPL and fitness level is a big question mark at this time. Hence, it is wise not to let Sakho go for the sake of the team. �

    Still need to get rid of Markovic, Wisdom, Illori, Balo by transfer or loan. Dun think Klopp wants the window closed without doing these necessary... �


  • 23 August 2016 - 09:20 AM
    Galantspeedz

    Klopp on transfer speculation. "I wait for the day when the transfer window is closed. I can't believe how obsessed you all are with this."

    I can sense he is obviously pissed about so many people telling him who to sign.

    I seriously think that Klopp wants to build and does not believe in using transfers to solve all problems.

    1 year nia.... wenger tio 20 yrs liao lol


  • 23 August 2016 - 09:31 AM
    Shorty

    Liverpool are considering sending Sakho out on loan

    Official stance is that he needs to play elsewhere to regain his form and fitness.

    Personally, I feel he had pissed Klopp so much that his Anfield future is gone.

    if he gets rid of sakho, he's an idiot. for now, sakho n lovren should b the 1st choice pairing. i havent seen matip play, so cant comment. klavan is good, but i dont think he is ahead of sakho. n whatever petty differences he n sakho had, im sure they can settle it professionally.�


  • 23 August 2016 - 09:33 AM
    Ngseeming

    Even Carragher told Klopp to strengthen the team.

    There is a good article on Soccernet, but directed at Ah Seng, on how the football scene and transfer market has changed since the influx of TV money.

    http://www.espnfcasi...-gunners-title.

    Basically, if you know that there is (are) shortcoming(s) on your players in whichever positions and there is no one in the rank (incl the youth academy) to step up. Then you just have to pay the price and buy if you want to challenge for the title. To rebuild almost certainly means giving up the title fight.

    What happened to the Fox is a fairy tale that happen (not even) once every 50 years.

    Money may be the root of all evisl, but if you have them and don't spend it wisely is even the greater evil - not for the owners / shareholders obviously.


  • 23 August 2016 - 09:49 AM
    L23

    Even Carragher told Klopp to strengthen the team.

    There is a good article on Soccernet, but directed at Ah Seng, on how the football scene and transfer market has changed since the influx of TV money.

    http://www.espnfcasi...-gunners-title.

    Basically, if you know that there is (are) shortcoming(s) on your players in whichever positions and there is no one in the rank (incl the youth academy) to step up. Then you just have to pay the price and buy if you want to challenge for the title. To rebuild almost certainly means giving up the title fight.

    What happened to the Fox is a fairy tale that happen (not even) once every 50 years.

    Money may be the root of all evisl, but if you have them and don't spend it wisely is even the greater evil - not for the owners / shareholders obviously.

    Err at least for the past 20 years, the gunner went into Champion League even in those years they are not spending much..

    Can Liverpool, Chelsea and Manu do that ? :grin:


  • 23 August 2016 - 10:00 AM
    ins1dious

    Err at least for the past 20 years, the gunner went into Champion League even in those years they are not spending much..

    Can Liverpool, Chelsea and Manu do that ? :grin:

    To be fair... I don't think even Arsenal can do this now also. Money is cheap and the field is just too strong.

    Teams have to spend and strengthen... but within reason. Some of the fees quoted are crazy.


  • 23 August 2016 - 10:04 AM
    L23

    To be fair... I don't think even Arsenal can do this now also. Money is cheap and the field is just too strong.

    Teams have to spend and strengthen... but within reason. Some of the fees quoted are crazy.

    They just managed to do that last season� :yuush::yuush:

    Where is Chelsea and Manu?

    Manu lost 100m and a manager by the way.


  • 23 August 2016 - 10:08 AM
    Galantspeedz

    They just managed to do that last season� :yuush::yuush:

    Where is Chelsea and Manu?

    Manu lost 100m and a manager by the way.

    if man u has fans that don't even dare to admit they are fans of man u...... nothing much to say....

    chelsea suffering from JM 3rd season syndrome


  • 23 August 2016 - 10:09 AM
    ins1dious

    They just managed to do that last season� :yuush::yuush:

    Where is Chelsea and Manu?

    Manu lost 100m and a manager by the way.

    Yes... but if you look at overall spend by Arsenal for the last 2+ years... you'll see it's net deficit.... they spent more buying than received on selling...�

    True though... the club has been more conservative in their spending without the big splash signings. That's how the gaffer likes to operate.�

    And also... he's not an idiot like LVG

  • 23 August 2016 - 03:41 PM
    Osprey23
    Manchester United are interested in signing Southampton's Jose Fonte.

    [Manchester Evening News]
  • 23 August 2016 - 04:12 PM
    Osprey23
    Looks like the earlier report of Valencia wanting �50m is wide off the mark.

    http://www.thesportr...dnesday-report/

    According to the above report, Arsenal is getting their man soon at �25m plus �3m addons
  • 23 August 2016 - 04:32 PM
    Getzsfv

    Manchester United are interested in signing Southampton's Jose Fonte.

    [Manchester Evening News]

    Fonte deserved to be in a Top Club for his performance in the Euros, good experience player.


  • 23 August 2016 - 04:49 PM
    Galantspeedz

    Looks like the earlier report of Valencia wanting �50m is wide off the mark.

    http://www.thesportr...dnesday-report/

    According to the above report, Arsenal is getting their man soon at �25m plus �3m addons

    25m too little lar... �we should offer 50m......

    because 25m can't win us the title but if we pay 50m.... the title is ours!!!


  • 23 August 2016 - 04:52 PM
    Spring

    25m too little lar... �we should offer 50m......

    because 25m can't win us the title but if we pay 50m.... the title is ours!!!

    Haiz.....missing the point as usual just like your boss.....


  • 23 August 2016 - 05:01 PM
    ins1dious

    Haiz.....missing the point as usual just like your boss.....

  • 23 August 2016 - 08:22 PM
    Osprey23
    West Brom are unwilling to offload defender Jonny Evans to Arsenal for any price below �25m. (Source: Daily Telegraph)

    Even West Brom is helping Wenger to make up his mind :D

    Apparently Hart is getting near to the exit door after a heated argument with pep during training.


    Regardless heated or not, he is heading out I think.

    Everton waiting for Bravo to complete the switch.

    Arsenal head count just reduced by 1


    Frankly hor, who will submit resignation with Comic Sans font??
  • 23 August 2016 - 09:11 PM
    Osprey23
    Man City are finishing the window strongly.

    After Bravo, they are reportedly trying to sign Hernandez from Leverkusen
  • 23 August 2016 - 09:33 PM
    Spurman

    Man City are finishing the window strongly.

    After Bravo, they are reportedly trying to sign Hernandez from Leverkusen

    Man citeh have lost their soul unfortunately. Buying instant success
  • 23 August 2016 - 10:04 PM
    Osprey23

    Man citeh have lost their soul unfortunately. Buying instant success


    Hmm, you mean City or their neighbour? :D

    Edited by Osprey23, 23 August 2016 - 10:04 PM.

  • 23 August 2016 - 10:30 PM
    Spurman

    Hmm, you mean City or their neighbour? :D

    City.

    Man yo well. They r already self sustaining unlike citeh who depend on little history n oil monies
  • 24 August 2016 - 12:01 AM
    Osprey23

    City.

    Man yo well. They r already self sustaining unlike citeh who depend on little history n oil monies


    True but Man Utd in the past 3 seasons basically is trying to buy instant success as well.

    Just my observation, don't flame me :D
  • 24 August 2016 - 08:38 AM
    Weez911

    I recall Arsenal went into a period of austerity as they wanted to spend on their new bigger capacity stadium that will bring them higher revenue. Leaving Highbury was a tough pill to swallow then as most fans have connections with the old ground.

    10 years later today, it appears that the club is still unwilling to spend more competively in the market although the bigger Emirates should have given them more firepower. My personal view is the shareholders of Arsenal are the ones hogging the profits and dividends. Arsene may/could have gotten his share outside his managerial remuneration too. This arrangement is a win-win for everyone except the fans, who pay for ever higher season tickets and TV subscription without seeing their money spend on the recruits they like and being a perennial top 4. I would have understood their frustrations too.


  • 24 August 2016 - 08:44 AM
    Osprey23
    Pako:"Mustafi will not be allowed to leave Valencia this summer"

    Looks like Pako has made it clear. Unless Arsenal trigger his release clause at �50m, Mustafi is staying

    Edited by Osprey23, 24 August 2016 - 08:46 AM.

  • 24 August 2016 - 09:04 AM
    Getzsfv

    True but Man Utd in the past 3 seasons basically is trying to buy instant success as well.

    Just my observation, don't flame me :D

    oic, MANU buying success when buying players... hmmm

    When pools buy players and change almost the entire team, just short of changing the toilet auntie, season after season is called rebuilding.... hmmm� [laugh] �good observation� [thumbsup]

    Just my observation, don't flame me� :D


  • 24 August 2016 - 09:36 AM
    Galantspeedz

    I recall Arsenal went into a period of austerity as they wanted to spend on their new bigger capacity stadium that will bring them higher revenue. Leaving Highbury was a tough pill to swallow then as most fans have connections with the old ground.

    10 years later today, it appears that the club is still unwilling to spend more competively in the market although the bigger Emirates should have given them more firepower. My personal view is the shareholders of Arsenal are the ones hogging the profits and dividends. Arsene may/could have gotten his share outside his managerial remuneration too. This arrangement is a win-win for everyone except the fans, who pay for ever higher season tickets and TV subscription without seeing their money spend on the recruits they like and being a perennial top 4. I would have understood their frustrations too.

    Wenger rejected a pay increase... but take his share outside his manager pay? Might as well take both

    I think besides the rich guys like man u, man c and chelsea.... we have been competitive.... so unless we have commercial revenue like man u or sugar daddy like man c and chelsea.... there is only so much Arsenal can do...


  • 24 August 2016 - 09:39 AM
    Genes

    All along this thread is Man Utd and Pool fans trading barbs, in addition to the usual transfer updates that O23 provides. Now Arsenal dowan spend money/no money spend/ngiao ji ngiao lan, also tio target.

    Football. Bloodee Hell.


  • 24 August 2016 - 09:40 AM
    ins1dious

    All along this thread is Man Utd and Pool fans trading barbs, in addition to the usual transfer updates that O23 provides. Now Arsenal dowan spend money/no money spend/ngiao ji ngiao lan, also tio target.

    Football. Bloodee Hell.

    At least don't have too many plastic ManC fans crowing about their "success"

  • 24 August 2016 - 10:25 AM
    ins1dious

    Wow, finally got someone on the same wavelength as me! That's what I've been saying all this while ie how did Pool, United, Arsenal etc became good? Cos they got success earlier likely cos they either came first, got more money earlier or combination of both. Now City, Chelsea n whoever using money n called plastic etc. Come on, don't begrudge new money cos u reaped the benefits of old money, cheers!

    Not just one. So many agree with you. All fans want success. Only disagreement is the philosophy of how.

    At the end of the season... there can only be one winner. Whether club spends 200m or 2m. If the club/manager/players have the heart and wherewithal... they can do it.


  • 24 August 2016 - 10:35 AM
    Scion

    i rather Arsene Wenger uses that 50m go and buy 30 16-year-old potential kids

    then hope in 2/3 years time, got at least 1 turn into Messi or Ronaldo, and 3-5 become Rooney [laugh]


  • 24 August 2016 - 10:36 AM
    Ngseeming

    Never like the Glazers, but admire them for their biz acumen. Who would use their own money to start up if the bank loans are available to you? Of course, the risks were there and could affect their biz in the State if MU deal backfired badly. They know their biz, maybe not football and left it to SAF to sail through the stormy years. Except for the 1st few years when interest payment were at its highest, they were not shy and supported the managers with fund to compete in transfer markets.

    They, like successful bizmen, know that you need to spend money to make money.

    Despite with higher net debts than many of its top rivals, MU, back by recent years bumper sponsorship deals and the new TV money, beat every club incl RM into submission in transfer market.

    While the detractors had field days on the Pogba deal, no one mentioned on the free transfer Ibra. [lipsrsealed]

    While one "specialist" club is re-building after 12 years, and another trying to find its way after a 1/4 of CENTURY and hundreds of millions on dozens of players, they can proudly proclaim to be purists.

    MU cannot wait after just 3 years in wilderness. So instead of more money going as directors' fees to Glazer, they can spend every penny on the players for all MU fan could care.

    After all, most of these money come from merchandise and sponsorship as the fans do not pay the highest tickets for their dreams.

    So let the money hoarders and the lesser teams rejoice, we have the noisy neighbor and maybe the Chelski to take care of,


  • 24 August 2016 - 10:43 AM
    Osprey23

    i know but the fact is they did spend but maybe not on the scale of man u because they cannot afford to....

    to be honest, even madrid and barca cannot spend like man u...


    Ya, seems like their spending power curbed. Real stepping aside on Pogba's deal is a good indicator.

    Barcelona will have to relies on their next batch of stars from academy. Their core group now are all aging together.

    Man Utd is a monster in their commercial tie up. In term of fan base, maybe only Liverpool can match but even that is dwelling. If during Klopp's time Pool can't start winning again, future will b quite bleak in terms of overseas fan base. To have a commercial machinery running, global fan base is key.

    Edited by Osprey23, 24 August 2016 - 10:44 AM.

  • 24 August 2016 - 10:49 AM
    Jamesc

    Pako:"Mustafi will not be allowed to leave Valencia this summer"

    Looks like Pako has made it clear. Unless Arsenal trigger his release clause at �50m, Mustafi is staying

    I always like Pako.

    :D


  • 24 August 2016 - 10:50 AM
    Spring

    Not just one. So many agree with you. All fans want success. Only disagreement is the philosophy of how.

    At the end of the season... there can only be one winner. Whether club spends 200m or 2m. If the club/manager/players have the heart and wherewithal... they can do it.


    Well it sure doesn't seem like many agree with me here but no worries as we all Hv our opinion. BTW, My point on Arsenal is to spend in proportion of their earnings, not at the level of United, City n Chelsea. It's my opinion they are not doing this but as u said, diff clubs Hv diff philosophies so I shall not be posting anymore on this as I've riled up quite a few people here which was nvr the intention.

    Like Weez911 says, not my club so actually better still they dont spend isn't it? N still got people say I geh geh happy at Arsenal's woes but ironical isn't it, if I'm happy why post their non spending? Cheers n peace to all here n let's enjoy the football!!
  • 24 August 2016 - 10:55 AM
    Galantspeedz

    Ya, seems like their spending power curbed. Real stepping aside on Pogba's deal is a good indicator.

    Barcelona will have to relies on their next batch of stars from academy. Their core group now are all aging together.

    Man Utd is a monster in their commercial tie up. In term of fan base, maybe only Liverpool can match but even that is dwelling. If during Klopp's time Pool can't start winning again, future will b quite bleak in terms of overseas fan base. To have a commercial machinery running, global fan base is key.

    Liverpool can match fan base currently but revenue i think man u outstrip all of us.�

    I wonder if there is no FFP, will man c, chelsea, barca, RM and PSG be able to fight with man u financially


    Well it sure doesn't seem like many agree with me here but no worries as we all Hv our opinion. BTW, My point on Arsenal is to spend in proportion of their earnings, not at the level of United, City n Chelsea. It's my opinion they are not doing this but as u said, diff clubs Hv diff philosophies so I shall not be posting anymore on this as I've riled up quite a few people here which was nvr the intention.

    Like Weez911 says, not my club so actually better still they dont spend isn't it? N still got people say I geh geh happy at Arsenal's woes but ironical isn't it, if I'm happy why post their non spending? Cheers n peace to all here n let's enjoy the football!!

    your proportion and arsenal proportion is different.....�


  • 24 August 2016 - 10:56 AM
    Genes

    Ya! I say you geh geh! [laugh]


  • 24 August 2016 - 10:57 AM
    Osprey23

    Never like the Glazers, but admire them for their biz acumen. Who would use their own money to start up if the bank loans are available to you? Of course, the risks were there and could affect their biz in the State if MU deal backfired badly. They know their biz, maybe not football and left it to SAF to sail through the stormy years. Except for the 1st few years when interest payment were at its highest, they were not shy and supported the managers with fund to compete in transfer markets.

    They, like successful bizmen, know that you need to spend money to make money.

    Despite with higher net debts than many of its top rivals, MU, back by recent years bumper sponsorship deals and the new TV money, beat every club incl RM into submission in transfer market.

    While the detractors had field days on the Pogba deal, no one mentioned on the free transfer Ibra. [lipsrsealed]

    While one "specialist" club is re-building after 12 years, and another trying to find its way after a 1/4 of CENTURY and hundreds of millions on dozens of players, they can proudly proclaim to be purists.

    MU cannot wait after just 3 years in wilderness. So instead of more money going as directors' fees to Glazer, they can spend every penny on the players for all MU fan could care.

    After all, most of these money come from merchandise and sponsorship as the fans do not pay the highest tickets for their dreams.

    So let the money hoarders and the lesser teams rejoice, we have the noisy neighbor and maybe the Chelski to take care of,


    Agree.

    Different clubs just have to operate differently base on financial muscles. You guys got big muscles so can just buy whoever you fancy at whatever price.

    People like us will just have to work around it and thus, taking a much tougher route to achieve success.

    No right or wrong as I always said. With money, the path to glory is smoother. Without money, you just have to work harder for it.
  • 24 August 2016 - 11:03 AM
    Jamesc

    I love all the hypocrisy here.

    I see nothing wrong with buying success.

    Liverpool hold many record buys in their time

    Kenny Dalglish 440k

    Craig Johnston 570k

    John Barnes 920k

    Peter Beardsley 1.9m

    Its ok when my club buys expensive players

    when your club is buying expensive players

    you are buying success.

    And when a club like Arsenal cannot afford or

    won't buy players you all keep laughing and

    making fun of them. Why don't anyone say

    they don't want to buy success?

    :D


  • 24 August 2016 - 11:06 AM
    Spring

    i rather Arsene Wenger uses that 50m go and buy 30 16-year-old potential kids

    then hope in 2/3 years time, got at least 1 turn into Messi or Ronaldo, and 3-5 become Rooney [laugh]


    Buying 30 youngsters is all well n good but but how many will actually come good? Ironically, city n Chelsea Hv one of the best youth academies cos they willing to spend there but which player came good from there? Maybe Iheanacho n Loftus Cheek possibly but not sure yet. We all impatient naturally so buying finished product is preferred but obviously not guaranteed.

    Best I think is a mixture of say 18 first team standard players n 5-6 youth ones in the squad to see how they fare n give them exposure but easier said than done cos sometimes certain positions need filling n there could be lop sided of players in a particular position.
  • 24 August 2016 - 11:27 AM
    ins1dious

    I love all the hypocrisy here.

    I see nothing wrong with buying success.

    Liverpool hold many record buys in their time

    Kenny Dalglish 440k

    Craig Johnston 570k

    John Barnes 920k

    Peter Beardsley 1.9m

    Its ok when my club buys expensive players

    when your club is buying expensive players

    you are buying success.

    And when a club like Arsenal cannot afford or

    won't buy players you all keep laughing and

    making fun of them. Why don't anyone say

    they don't want to buy success?

    :D

    We also had some record buys lor...�

    David Jack from Bolton for 10,000 pounds

  • 24 August 2016 - 02:28 PM
    Shorty

    that's y i have said. it's good to b rich. but somehow whenever i say that to fans of certain clubs that their favourite club is buying titles, they get offended. there's nothing wrong. the world now is in such a way that u need money to succeed. of cos there will b clubs who dont read the script n spoil the party of the rich. but that is "once in 50yrs" occurrence.


    What the point of buying in a Super wonder kid and sell him off at a Super value price during the peak time of the player ?
    You need to keep that Super star in your team to win title and attract more wonder kid !!

    Look at CR7, Manu should not sell him at all.
    I know the player wanted to go RM but if Manu is determined to overtake RM in any sort of competition, they should make use of CR7 to attract more stars and win title.

    On the contrary , Barca definitely done well to make sure Messi stay with them . They make use of Ugly Ron to nature Messi and now making Messi happy enough to groom the next batch of youth.

    I can't see the gunner doing that .

    its not that they wanna sell la. but they hv to. arsenal need the money at that time, thats y we see a lot of their star players are sold. n also they can counteroffer by increasing the players' pay. but now, i tink they do not hv to sell if they want. we will surely see arsenal buy expensive players at least once a window.


  • 24 August 2016 - 05:03 PM
    Osprey23
    Bentaleb has agreed to join Schalke. Season-long loan with option to buy for �20m (obligatory with certain criteria).

    [L'Equipe]
  • 24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM
    Osprey23

    Southampton have bid �15m for Sofiane Boufal
    Premier League side Southampton have bid �15m for Lille attacker Sofiane Boufal, according to France Football.

    Watford already had an offer rejected worth a similar amount earlier on during the window.

    Lille want at least �20m plus bonuses in order to part with the player.

    Southampton could come back with an improved offer in the coming days.


    Spurs supposedly interested too but never bid.
  • 24 August 2016 - 09:00 PM
    Osprey23
    Watford agree �7.5m fee with Newcastle for Daryl Janmaat
  • 24 August 2016 - 09:45 PM
    Osprey23
    According to BILD, Bayer Leverkusen have put a �25m (�21.1m) price tag on Spurs target Hakan �alhano?lu.

    His free kicks already worth the price tag :D
  • 24 August 2016 - 10:53 PM
    Osprey23
    New York City FC keen to hold talks with Bastian�Schweinsteiger
  • 25 August 2016 - 12:21 AM
    Osprey23
    Balotelli won't be at Liverpool come 1st Sep

    With no potential suitor in sight, no sure where James Pearce gets his optimism from.
  • 25 August 2016 - 12:35 AM
    Osprey23
    Very good read for those who wants to learn more about transfer mechanism.

    Very good explanation on the cost involved in signing a player.

    https://www.theguard...ow-market-myths
  • 25 August 2016 - 06:43 AM
    Osprey23
    Mark Huges wants to take Sakho on loan
  • 25 August 2016 - 07:59 AM
    Osprey23

    Mark Huges wants to take Sakho on loan


    BILD report that Stoke City have bid �20 million for Borussia Dortmund's Christian Pulisic.

    Stoke is aiming to finish the window with a bang too
  • 25 August 2016 - 08:44 AM
    Osprey23
    Arsenal are after Deportivo's Lucas Perez and are likely to beat Everton to the striker, according to El Confidencial.
  • 25 August 2016 - 09:38 AM
    Osprey23
    OFFICIAL: Newcastle United have signed American right-back DeAndre Yedlin from Tottenham for an undisclosed fee.

    Surprised that Spurs let him go. Good player in my opinion and offer back up option to Walker.
  • 25 August 2016 - 09:44 AM
    Shorty

    Mark Huges wants to take Sakho on loan

    if this happens, klopp will need to do some explaining. cos everyone knows the reason of giving him play time to regain his fitness or watever is nonsense. he needs to disclose wat went on at the us tour that had sakho sent home.�


  • 25 August 2016 - 09:45 AM
    Wyfitms

    On the contrary , Barca definitely done well to make sure Messi stay with them . They make use of Ugly Ron to nature Messi and now making Messi happy enough to groom the next batch of youth.

    why-u-call-a7i6xe.jpg


  • 25 August 2016 - 09:48 AM
    Wyfitms

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  • 25 August 2016 - 09:54 AM
    Beregond

    Balotelli won't be at Liverpool come 1st Sep

    With no potential suitor in sight, no sure where James Pearce gets his optimism from.

    • Mario Balotelli could end his Liverpool nightmare by signing for Swiss Super League side FC Sion.

    From THE SUN.

    even back in italy no 1 want him, sad man

    , wat happen to this guy. i still remember him winning the title for man c


  • 25 August 2016 - 10:14 AM
    Osprey23

    if this happens, klopp will need to do some explaining. cos everyone knows the reason of giving him play time to regain his fitness or watever is nonsense. he needs to disclose wat went on at the us tour that had sakho sent home.


    I rate Sakho and believe he is a captain material.

    However, even if Klopp rates his ability as well, he needs to cut him down to size of he grows his head too big.

    I believe Klopp is team builder. He will not allow anyone to disrupt his effort to gel a team. This loan move is more for Sakho to sort out his head imo. He either take this positively and work his way back or he will be sold. The message to him is clear.
  • 25 August 2016 - 10:28 AM
    Ngseeming

    Transfer Spending so far:

    MC� :� � 165,580,000.00

    MU� :� � 157,250,000.00

    LFC :� �� 67,920,000.00

    Che :� �� 63,580,000.00

    Ars : � �� 44,200,000.00

    LC :��� �� 40,380,000.00

    (source : mirror)

    As it stands, MU would have the bigger chance of winning the title as only on 3 occasions did the biggest spenders win the EPL title (Chelsea twice-under JM and MU once)

    In the 4 past seasons that MC topped the spending, they finished no higher than 3rd. Let History repeat itself


    Edited by Ngseeming, 25 August 2016 - 10:32 AM.

  • 25 August 2016 - 10:32 AM
    Beregond

    Transfer Spending so far:

    MC� :� � 165,580,000.00

    MU� :� � 157,250,000.00

    LFC :� �� 67,920,000.00

    Che :� �� 63,580,000.00

    Ars : � �� 44,200,000.00

    LC :��� �� 40,380,000.00

    (source : mirror)

    As it stand, MU would have the bigger chance of winning the title as only on 3 occasions did the biggest spenders won the EPL title (Chelsea twice and MU once)

    In the 4 past seasons that MC topped the spending, they finished no higher than 3rd. Let History repeat itself

    but u forgot they won the charity shield.

    how many time did the winner of charity shield went on to win the title. [laugh]


  • 25 August 2016 - 10:54 AM
    Getzsfv

    but u forgot they won the charity shield.

    how many time did the winner of charity shield went on to win the title. [laugh]

    you are right, not many, only MANU has done it... [laugh][laugh][laugh]


  • 25 August 2016 - 11:08 AM
    L23

    you are right, not many, only MANU has done it... [laugh][laugh][laugh]

    Power la !

    You just nail it ! :grin:��

    The power of Manu can't be under-estimated� :a-happy:��


  • 25 August 2016 - 11:08 AM
    Ngseeming

    but u forgot they won the charity shield.

    how many time did the winner of charity shield went on to win the title. [laugh]

    Yes, the CS is considered as poisoned chalice as its winners, more often than not, failed to follow up with title wins.

    Hey but not for MU. [bounce2] [bounce2]

    On the 8 occasions that it won the CS in the premier league era, it finished as EPL champions 5 times.

    Not a bad omen to say the least. [:p] [:p]


  • 25 August 2016 - 12:02 PM
    cashcow

    Liverpool�s Mario Balotelli in talks with FC Sion over loan move

    3000.jpg?w=300&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&f

    Guardian


    Edited by cashcow, 25 August 2016 - 12:03 PM.

  • 25 August 2016 - 12:15 PM
    ins1dious

    Liverpool�s Mario Balotelli in talks with FC Sion over loan move

    3000.jpg?w=300&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&f

    Guardian

    This fellow was supposed to win the Ballon d'Or

  • 25 August 2016 - 05:56 PM
    Jamesc

    http://www.skysports...-guardiolas-man

    quite interesting�

    Then we should get Hart.

    Pap builds attacks from the back,

    Klopp builds attacks from the front.

    So if Hart is bad for Pap then he

    should be good for Klopp.

    It seems counter press is the total

    opposite to tiki taka.

    :D


  • 25 August 2016 - 06:28 PM
    Osprey23

    Then we should get Hart.

    Pap builds attacks from the back,

    Klopp builds attacks from the front.

    So if Hart is bad for Pap then he

    should be good for Klopp.

    It seems counter press is the total

    opposite to tiki taka.

    :D


    Give Everton a chance lah. Every time target tio snatch very sian one you know.

    Klopp already got in the keeper he needs. No need Hart.
  • 25 August 2016 - 07:29 PM
    Osprey23

    who sia.........


    Someone better than Griezmann, according to stats

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  • 25 August 2016 - 07:43 PM
    Osprey23
    Former LFC loanee Javier Manquillo signs for Sunderland.
  • 25 August 2016 - 08:02 PM
    Galantspeedz

    Someone better than Griezmann, according to stats


    And for a.lousier team....hmmm
    Why so many footballers bleaching their hair?
  • 25 August 2016 - 08:08 PM
    Osprey23

    And for a.lousier team....hmmm
    Why so many footballers bleaching their hair?


    So that they can play like Messi? :D
  • 25 August 2016 - 09:17 PM
    Osprey23
    Everton manager Ronald Koeman states the club have "no interest" in Manchester City keeper Joe Hart

    Oh, ok
  • 25 August 2016 - 09:39 PM
    Osprey23
    Mario Balotelli has travelled to Nice to discuss a move to the Ligue 1 side. No agreement has been struck between the sides yet, with Balotelli set to hold talks with Lucien Favre.

    [Goal-Melissa Reddy]

    Please please
  • 25 August 2016 - 09:44 PM
    L23

    Mario Balotelli has travelled to Nice to discuss a move to the Ligue 1 side. No agreement has been struck between the sides yet, with Balotelli set to hold talks with Lucien Favre.

    [Goal-Melissa Reddy]

    Please please

    Oh man . He's Travelling round the whole Europe.
    Poor Mario.
    Will he go to us and China to find new love ?
  • 25 August 2016 - 09:57 PM
    Ktglfc

    Mario Balotelli has travelled to Nice to discuss a move to the Ligue 1 side. No agreement has been struck between the sides yet, with Balotelli set to hold talks with Lucien Favre.

    [Goal-Melissa Reddy]

    Please please


    Not please please ... It's tor-long tor-long :D
    Hopefully it's a happy ending for him :))
  • 25 August 2016 - 10:01 PM
    Osprey23
    Tottenham have submitted a bid in the region of �15m for Crystal Palace winger Wilfried Zaha. (Source: BBC Sport)
  • 25 August 2016 - 11:18 PM
    Osprey23
    DONE DEAL: Man City have signed Claudio Bravo from Barcelona for �15.4m (�18m) on a four-year deal.
  • 26 August 2016 - 08:05 AM
    Osprey23
    On this day last year, Milan signed him on loan.

    On this day 2 years ago, he signed for Liverpool.

    If today he completes his move to Nice, August 25th will be officially termed as Balotelli Day.

    Edited by Osprey23, 26 August 2016 - 08:15 AM.

  • 26 August 2016 - 08:17 AM
    Osprey23
    Arsenal agree �35m fee with Valencia for Shkodran Mustafi

    Wenger is going to spend around �100m this window.
  • 26 August 2016 - 08:23 AM
    Osprey23

    Oh man . He's Travelling round the whole Europe.
    Poor Mario.
    Will he go to us and China to find new love ?

    Actually his agent did all the travelling. He only travels when the club gives a positive vibe to his agent :D

    Edited by Osprey23, 26 August 2016 - 08:24 AM.

  • 26 August 2016 - 08:25 AM
    Osprey23
    West Ham agree fee with Juventus for Simone Zaza
  • 26 August 2016 - 09:23 AM
    Osprey23
    Eduardo joins Chelsea on a one-year deal from Dinamo Zagreb

    3rd choice keeper
  • 26 August 2016 - 09:32 AM
    Shorty

    wah so many done deals.


  • 26 August 2016 - 09:38 AM
    Spring

    Eduardo joins Chelsea on a one-year deal from Dinamo Zagreb

    3rd choice keeper

    Just my opinion but I see 2 very different attitudes to the goalkeeping situation at City v Chelsea.

    Chelsea being overtly cautious? Unless they intend to move Begovic on, they will have 3 very experienced goalies which is always good but hard to manage as only 1 can play and another will not be able to even sit on the bench.

    City on the other hand I feel take it too lightly. Fair enough Pep feels Bravo is the main man but the back ups are weak as Caballero is not exactly top 4 material IMO and likely the 3rd choice goalie is one of their youth goalies. For a club which is overstocked with experienced outfield players, this smacks of negligence I feel and explains why I felt Hart should have been kept or managed better.

    Pool also have 3 goalies though 1 is a 40yr old and some questioned this�signing when Klopp made it but I nvr doubted it and it proved a wise decision when Karius broke his hand.


  • 26 August 2016 - 09:44 AM
    Beregond

    Just my opinion but I see 2 very different attitudes to the goalkeeping situation at City v Chelsea.

    Chelsea being overtly cautious? Unless they intend to move Begovic on, they will have 3 very experienced goalies which is always good but hard to manage as only 1 can play and another will not be able to even sit on the bench.

    City on the other hand I feel take it too lightly. Fair enough Pep feels Bravo is the main man but the back ups are weak as Caballero is not exactly top 4 material IMO and likely the 3rd choice goalie is one of their youth goalies. For a club which is overstocked with experienced outfield players, this smacks of negligence I feel and explains why I felt Hart should have been kept or managed better.

    Pool also have 3 goalies though 1 is a 40yr old and some questioned this�signing when Klopp made it but I nvr doubted it and it proved a wise decision when Karius broke his hand.

    i think hart de pay very high is it.

    i feel they want to bring down the wages structure, rather then the money from selling hart.

    and motivation factor also, having a unhappy england no1 in your sq is very unwise, all the media keep talking, and negivative �influence in the team.


  • 26 August 2016 - 09:52 AM
    Spring

    i think hart de pay very high is it.

    i feel they want to bring down the wages structure, rather then the money from selling hart.

    and motivation factor also, having a unhappy england no1 in your sq is very unwise, all the media keep talking, and negivative �influence in the team.

    Hart's pay is def high but so too the rest of the City players.

    You got a point that it may not be possible to keep the England no. 1 happy sitting on the bench but I still feel it's an accident waiting to happen if something happens to Bravo. But I suppose that is what Pep is paid to consider.


  • 26 August 2016 - 11:29 AM
    Osprey23

    Hart's pay is def high but so too the rest of the City players.

    You got a point that it may not be possible to keep the England no. 1 happy sitting on the bench but I still feel it's an accident waiting to happen if something happens to Bravo. But I suppose that is what Pep is paid to consider.


    He is already sitting on the bench before Bravo arriving. Now with Bravo as Pep's first choice, Hart will be promoted to Director Box seat.
  • 26 August 2016 - 11:48 AM
    Spring

    He is already sitting on the bench before Bravo arriving. Now with Bravo as Pep's first choice, Hart will be promoted to Director Box seat.

    Haha good one [thumbsup]

    It's certainly worrying for him cos now Koeman has come out to say Everton don't want him so where will he go to??


  • 26 August 2016 - 11:56 AM
    Osprey23

    Haha good one [thumbsup]

    It's certainly worrying for him cos now Koeman has come out to say Everton don't want him so where will he go to??


    Many clubs would love to have him but not sure how many can afford him, both in terms of agreeing fee with City and also his wage.

    I only heard Everton and now if Koeman is denying it, I really not sure liao
  • 26 August 2016 - 12:15 PM
    cashcow

    Haha good one [thumbsup]

    It's certainly worrying for him cos now Koeman has come out to say Everton don't want him so where will he go to??

    According to the daily mirror, joe hart is willing to take a pay cut to join liverpool ..... i suppose everton (?)

    Source


  • 26 August 2016 - 12:27 PM
    Osprey23
    Done deal: Southampton have agreed a club-record fee worth in the region of �17m with Lille for Sofiane Boufal.
  • 26 August 2016 - 12:31 PM
    Osprey23

    According to the daily mirror, joe hart is willing to take a pay cut to join liverpool ..... i suppose everton (?)

    Source


    Highly unlikely bro. I think David Anderson from Mirror was the one who reported Everton keen on Hart but not Liverpool some time back.

    Migs on 60kpw I think and likely to be on the bench once Karius is fit. How much pay cut is Hart willing to take to sit on the bench at Anfield?
  • 26 August 2016 - 12:40 PM
    Spring

    Always remember this guy cos he was the sub who came on for Italy in the Euros to take a penalty in the shoot out and then he went on to-in the commentator's words "he's like a ballet dancer taking a penalty" take the most bizarre�penalty and miss!!�


  • 26 August 2016 - 12:44 PM
    Othello

    West Ham agree fee with Juventus for Simone Zaza

    That fella who pattern more than badminton then totally misswd the penalty kick? Haha
  • 26 August 2016 - 12:45 PM
    Spring

    Just read this article in Independent, Pep admits it could be a big mistake to lose Hart.

    Well, credit to him for being honest enough to say this and not being in denial [thumbsup]

    http://www.independe...p-a7208336.html


  • 26 August 2016 - 02:46 PM
    Osprey23

    Just read this article in Independent, Pep admits it could be a big mistake to lose Hart.
    Well, credit to him for being honest enough to say this and not being in denial [thumbsup]

    http://www.independe...p-a7208336.html


    To me, it is merely a PR exercise. He didn't speak his mind on Hart but rather being very diplomatic. I give him due credit to give Hart the dignity and respect he deserves after serving so many years at City.
  • 26 August 2016 - 02:59 PM
    Spring

    To me, it is merely a PR exercise. He didn't speak his mind on Hart but rather being very diplomatic. I give him due credit to give Hart the dignity and respect he deserves after serving so many years at City.

    Maybe it is a PR exercise�to try get the City fans back on his side but I like honesty from Mgrs whether it's a PR exercise or not. It is always a risk to when you buy/sell players and esp for a long serving goalie who is playing in an important position.

    I'm not�a Pep fan but I like straight talking Mgrs though he could learn to be more tactful in his handling of players. I read Ribery is much happier with�Ancelotti now at BM�cos that coach is a father figure type which is welcomed by most players. Ribery sort of hinted he was not too happy with Pep esp for being told on how to play and his positioning etc. To each his own I suppose.�


  • 26 August 2016 - 03:21 PM
    Osprey23

    Maybe it is a PR exercise to try get the City fans back on his side but I like honesty from Mgrs whether it's a PR exercise or not. It is always a risk to when you buy/sell players and esp for a long serving goalie who is playing in an important position.

    I'm not a Pep fan but I like straight talking Mgrs though he could learn to be more tactful in his handling of players. I read Ribery is much happier with Ancelotti now at BM cos that coach is a father figure type which is welcomed by most players. Ribery sort of hinted he was not too happy with Pep esp for being told on how to play and his positioning etc. To each his own I suppose.


    Yup totally agree. No manager will be 100% liked by his players because all are human beings and there would bound to be some with character that just don't like you. :D

    Klopp although so well like at BVB, also don't have good words from Mkhitaryan
  • 26 August 2016 - 03:24 PM
    Beregond

    Yup totally agree. No manager will be 100% liked by his players because all are human beings and there would bound to be some with character that just don't like you. :D

    Klopp although so well like at BVB, also don't have good words from Mkhitaryan

    speaking of this guy. jm say he will make the biggest impact .

    but after 3 game, he have yet to even start, or play 45 min in any game

    very puzzeling.


  • 26 August 2016 - 04:44 PM
    Atrecord

    �BY�ESPN STAFF

    Joe Hart would take pay cut to join Liverpool

    TOP STORY: Hart would take pay cut to join Liverpool

    Joe Hart's future at Manchester City appears to be over after Pep Guardiola sealed the�signing of Claudio Bravo from Barcelona�on Thursday, and the England No. 1's options appear to be limited, and Everton boss�Ronald Koeman has said he has no interest in the 29-year-old.

    According to�The Sun, Hart is now trying to tempt Liverpool to make an offer for his services by offering to take a "huge pay cut" on his �150,000 weekly wage to seal a move to Anfield.

    Jurgen Klopp, who brought in Loris Karius to compete with Simon Mignolet this summer, has apparently shown no interest as yet but Hart hopes he can sway the German.

  • 26 August 2016 - 05:28 PM
    cashcow

    �BY�ESPN STAFF

    Joe Hart would take pay cut to join Liverpool

    TOP STORY: Hart would take pay cut to join Liverpool

    Joe Hart's future at Manchester City appears to be over after Pep Guardiola sealed the�signing of Claudio Bravo from Barcelona�on Thursday, and the England No. 1's options appear to be limited, and Everton boss�Ronald Koeman has said he has no interest in the 29-year-old.

    According to�The Sun, Hart is now trying to tempt Liverpool to make an offer for his services by offering to take a "huge pay cut" on his �150,000 weekly wage to seal a move to Anfield.

    Jurgen Klopp, who brought in Loris Karius to compete with Simon Mignolet this summer, has apparently shown no interest as yet but Hart hopes he can sway the German.

    The circus round trip show will end on 31st August 2016.

    Five more days to go. Cheer them on, lads.


    Edited by cashcow, 26 August 2016 - 05:28 PM.

  • 26 August 2016 - 07:36 PM
    Osprey23


    BY ESPN STAFF Joe Hart would take pay cut to join Liverpool
    TOP STORY: Hart would take pay cut to join Liverpool
    Joe Hart's future at Manchester City appears to be over after Pep Guardiola sealed the signing of Claudio Bravo from Barcelona on Thursday, and the England No. 1's options appear to be limited, and Everton boss Ronald Koeman has said he has no interest in the 29-year-old.

    According to The Sun, Hart is now trying to tempt Liverpool to make an offer for his services by offering to take a "huge pay cut" on his �150,000 weekly wage to seal a move to Anfield.

    Jurgen Klopp, who brought in Loris Karius to compete with Simon Mignolet this summer, has apparently shown no interest as yet but Hart hopes he can sway the German.


    As usual, the rag spouting nonsense :D

    speaking of this guy. jm say he will make the biggest impact .

    but after 3 game, he have yet to even start, or play 45 min in any game

    very puzzeling.


    Actually I did the same also when Man Utd signed him. He can inject pace into Man Utd's attack. Imaging Mkhitaryan and Martial on either side.

    Maybe is fitnes? Only JM knows
  • 26 August 2016 - 07:56 PM
    Osprey23
    Arsenal fans can expect a double new signing presentations later.
  • 26 August 2016 - 11:55 PM
    Osprey23
    Liverpool are not interested in Joe Hart

    This should put the rumour to bed now

    Edited by Osprey23, 26 August 2016 - 11:55 PM.

  • 27 August 2016 - 07:54 AM
    Osprey23
    Liverpool bid �11m for Pulisic

    Going for another winger but this one is is still very young. Klopp rates him highly and forced to act now due to Stoke submitting a bid for him. BVB reluctant to sell according to reports

    Edited by Osprey23, 27 August 2016 - 07:56 AM.

  • 27 August 2016 - 08:26 AM
    Osprey23
    Balotelli reportedly doesn't want to join Nice. Prefer to join Palermo who is keen to take him on loan with Pool paying majority of his wages

    Edited by Osprey23, 27 August 2016 - 08:48 AM.

  • 27 August 2016 - 09:06 AM
    Ngseeming

    Balo & Hart should do a Scheweni and say Pool/MC are the only clubs they will play for in Europe. And that they will be ready when the clubs need them. Meanwhile enjoy the free gym with top trainers and take home good six figure pay� every week.


  • 27 August 2016 - 09:51 AM
    Osprey23

    Balo & Hart should do a Scheweni and say Pool/MC are the only clubs they will play for in Europe. And that they will be ready when the clubs need them. Meanwhile enjoy the free gym with top trainers and take home good six figure pay every week.


    Hmm firstly, Balo don't have 6 figures to collect. Secondly, Hart believes he can be the No.1 for most of the EPL clubs. Lastly, both of them are not at the tail end of their playing careers.

    Schweinstiger I think he wants to play in MLS.
  • 27 August 2016 - 10:27 AM
    Wyfitms

    Hmm firstly, Balo don't have 6 figures to collect. Secondly, Hart believes he can be the No.1 for most of the EPL clubs. Lastly, both of them are not at the tail end of their playing careers.

    Schweinstiger I think he wants to play in MLS.

    Mignolet definitely dont deserve first team place
    Karius looks ok but based on first game I saw, wasn't impressive
    I'm sure as hell impressed with hart. One of the best in PL
    I don't see why we can't considering buying him? Unless the transfer is super high
  • 27 August 2016 - 10:35 AM
    Osprey23

    Mignolet definitely dont deserve first team place
    Karius looks ok but based on first game I saw, wasn't impressive
    I'm sure as hell impressed with hart. One of the best in PL
    I don't see why we can't considering buying him? Unless the transfer is super high


    You still impressed with him even after his showing at Euros? Many pointing fingers at him for England's exit.

    Hart on his day is certainly a top keeper but he is prone to errors as well. Better than Migs of course but if Klopp's idea is to groom Karius to the first choice, Migs or Hart will have to be on the bench.

    I do rate Karius as a young keeper, I see lots of potential in him. However, I won't be expecting a superb season from him either as I know he needs time to adjust. De Gea I remember didn't really do well in his first season at Man Utd too but they kept faith in him and now he is repaying them handsomely.
  • 27 August 2016 - 11:37 AM
    Wyfitms

    You still impressed with him even after his showing at Euros? Many pointing fingers at him for England's exit.

    Hart on his day is certainly a top keeper but he is prone to errors as well. Better than Migs of course but if Klopp's idea is to groom Karius to the first choice, Migs or Hart will have to be on the bench.

    I do rate Karius as a young keeper, I see lots of potential in him. However, I won't be expecting a superb season from him either as I know he needs time to adjust. De Gea I remember didn't really do well in his first season at Man Utd too but they kept faith in him and now he is repaying them handsomely.

    I hope karius can turn out good
    Been a long time since we had a rock between the posts
  • 27 August 2016 - 11:47 AM
    Osprey23

    I hope karius can turn out good
    Been a long time since we had a rock between the posts

    Fingers crossed.

    I believe he has the potential to come good butI am not sure if Achterberg can unlock it.

    Always want to better goalkeeper coach
  • 27 August 2016 - 01:14 PM
    cashcow

    Sunderland offers escape route for poor Joe Hart?

    Dailymail


  • 27 August 2016 - 04:05 PM
    Galantspeedz
    www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/541128/Premier-League-clubs-all-time-transfer-fees-sportgalleries

    Not sure how accurate but interesting
  • 27 August 2016 - 04:15 PM
    Osprey23

    http://www.dailystar...-sportgalleries

    Not sure how accurate but interesting

    I kapo created the link for you :D

    As usual, I would challenge the logic of looking at gross spend to analyse this. Pool's spending most of the time are supported by the cash from sale. So when we buy Torres for 23m, sell him for 50m, buy Carroll for 35m, our spending is registered as 58m. But during these transactions, we lost a 50m rated striker and replaced with one who is 35m.

    Did Pool improve as a team at the end? I am not too sure

    Edited by Osprey23, 27 August 2016 - 04:23 PM.

  • 27 August 2016 - 04:16 PM
    Ken1898
    Finally AW spending and hopefully is a quality signing.
  • 27 August 2016 - 04:20 PM
    Galantspeedz

    I kapo created the link for you :D


    Thanks.. I use mobile, dunno how to attach link

    The gap between everton and arsenal for 7th and 6th is double sia
  • 27 August 2016 - 04:24 PM
    Osprey23

    Thanks.. I use mobile, dunno how to attach link

    The gap between everton and arsenal for 7th and 6th is double sia

    Actually just need to add h t t p : / / (without space) in front can liao

    Edited by Osprey23, 27 August 2016 - 04:26 PM.

  • 28 August 2016 - 01:00 AM
    Galantspeedz

    Actually just need to add h t t p : / / (without space) in front can liao


    Ok thanks.... yeah wenger just confirmed the signings during press conference

    I kapo created the link for you :D

    As usual, I would challenge the logic of looking at gross spend to analyse this. Pool's spending most of the time are supported by the cash from sale. So when we buy Torres for 23m, sell him for 50m, buy Carroll for 35m, our spending is registered as 58m. But during these transactions, we lost a 50m rated striker and replaced with one who is 35m.

    Did Pool improve as a team at the end? I am not too sure


    But by the same regard... all teams is calculated the same way...

    Imagine chelsea bought matic, sold matic then buy back matic...lol
  • 28 August 2016 - 08:02 PM
    Osprey23

    Ok thanks.... yeah wenger just confirmed the signings during press conference

    But by the same regard... all teams is calculated the same way...

    Imagine chelsea bought matic, sold matic then buy back matic...lol

    Yup, they will register a higher fee for Matip. But they didn't lose anyone for him, that's my point.

    To guage how much a team has strengthen, I feel using nett spending will be a better indication.

    But of course I am aware of the other way of looking at it: regardless whether the money is from sales or not, the club did spend that money to sign the new players.

    So in that sense, I can only say Pool have been poor in replacing departed players

    Edited by Osprey23, 28 August 2016 - 08:07 PM.

  • 28 August 2016 - 08:09 PM
    Osprey23
    Palermo apparently offering Mario Balotelli �11,000 a week. He earns more than that in a day at Liverpool

    Not going to happen then.
  • 28 August 2016 - 08:34 PM
    Shorty

    Palermo apparently offering Mario Balotelli £11,000 a week. He earns more than that in a day at Liverpool

    Not going to happen then.

    Lol!!! Italian clubs r really damn lowballer.
  • 28 August 2016 - 08:42 PM
    L23

    Lol!!! Italian clubs r really damn lowballer.

    More like this is the financial status of those 2nd and 3rd tier Italian clubs.
    The whole league is not generating a lot money beside Juv and both Millan clubs.
  • 28 August 2016 - 08:43 PM
    Shorty

    More like this is the financial status of those 2nd and 3rd tier Italian clubs.
    The whole league is not generating a lot money beside Juv and both Millan clubs.

    No lei...ac milan also lowballer. Still remember they lowballed when wanna buy aquilani. Loan n loan n offer low low price when got option to buy.
  • 28 August 2016 - 08:49 PM
    L23

    No lei...ac milan also lowballer. Still remember they lowballed when wanna buy aquilani. Loan n loan n offer low low price when got option to buy.

    So where is aquilani now ?
    For this case, I still think Liverpool kanna carrot headed lo. Lol.
    What Millan offer , in my opinion, is market price :)

    Edited by L23, 28 August 2016 - 08:49 PM.

  • 28 August 2016 - 08:56 PM
    Galantspeedz

    Yup, they will register a higher fee for Matip. But they didn't lose anyone for him, that's my point.

    To guage how much a team has strengthen, I feel using nett spending will be a better indication.

    But of course I am aware of the other way of looking at it: regardless whether the money is from sales or not, the club did spend that money to sign the new players.

    So in that sense, I can only say Pool have been poor in replacing departed players


    Matic not matip...lol

    If I not wrong, matic replaced makelele
  • 29 August 2016 - 06:40 AM
    Osprey23

    Matic not matip...lol

    If I not wrong, matic replaced makelele

    Ya sorry typo. A younger better version replaced an aging star. So even they paid twice for him, still an upgrade imo.

    Pool on the other hand, loosing players at their peak and didn't really sign better to replace.

    Edited by Osprey23, 29 August 2016 - 06:41 AM.

  • 29 August 2016 - 06:41 AM
    Osprey23
    Chelsea striker Loic Remy close to joining Crystal Palace

    Ignacio Camacho set to join West Brom for �20M
  • 29 August 2016 - 08:52 AM
    Osprey23
    English giants Liverpool have submitted a bid of �35M to Gr�mio for attacker Luan (23), reported by the Futebol de Ga�cha.

    So far I only know Globo Esporte is credible in Brazil. Not sure about this Futebol de Gaucha.
  • 29 August 2016 - 09:07 AM
    Genes

    This thread will close on Thursday... T_T


  • 29 August 2016 - 10:01 AM
    Osprey23

    This thread will close on Thursday... T_T


    Yup, deadline day is always exciting lol
  • 29 August 2016 - 10:30 AM
    Scion

    Balo & Hart should do a Scheweni and say Pool/MC are the only clubs they will play for in Europe. And that they will be ready when the clubs need them. Meanwhile enjoy the free gym with top trainers and take home good six figure pay� every week.

    if this is a computer game, I will snap up Joe Hart and Bastian Schweinsteiger (at low�transfer fees�of cos), then kept Balotelli as an impact sub (no one wants him anyway)� [cool][laugh]


  • 29 August 2016 - 10:32 AM
    Beregond

    No lei...ac milan also lowballer. Still remember they lowballed when wanna buy aquilani. Loan n loan n offer low low price when got option to buy.

    ac milan not low ball.

    they really broke. looking to sell the �club.

    italy �now only left juv can make it


  • 29 August 2016 - 10:44 AM
    Osprey23

    ac milan not low ball.

    they really broke. looking to sell the club.

    italy now only left juv can make it


    Inter Milan up and coming. Their recent signings showing intent.
  • 29 August 2016 - 12:00 PM
    Spring

    Guardian's take on�EPL clubs fans wishlist as transfer deadline day looms......

    https://www.theguard...summer-spending


    Edited by Spring, 29 August 2016 - 12:02 PM.

  • 29 August 2016 - 02:06 PM
    Osprey23

    Guardian's take on EPL clubs fans wishlist as transfer deadline day looms......

    https://www.theguard...summer-spending


    Can't really comment on others but I do agree that if Pool can get Ricardo Rodriguez would be boss.

    This window however, I am still unable to comprehend Klopp's strategy.

    Karius, Matip and Klavan most straightforward to replace Bogdan, Skrtel and Kolo. Grujic already signed to replaced Allen.

    Then comes to the winger and AM position that we saw Klopp went ahead to splash on more expansive alternatives when the younger and cheaper first choice targets were unattainable for different reasons.

    What remains are the DM and LB where by Klopp decided not to do anything once the first choice targets are off. Dahoud will be visited again but for the LB, really have no idea what Klopp has in mind. Milner, in terms of the age and natural position, cannot be seen as a long term solution. If Moreno cannot improve to the required standard, we really have to splash on that position.
  • 29 August 2016 - 02:16 PM
    Galantspeedz

    Can't really comment on others but I do agree that if Pool can get Ricardo Rodriguez would be boss.

    This window however, I am still unable to comprehend Klopp's strategy.

    Karius, Matip and Klavan most straightforward to replace Bogdan, Skrtel and Kolo. Grujic already signed to replaced Allen.

    Then comes to the winger and AM position that we saw Klopp went ahead to splash on more expansive alternatives when the younger and cheaper first choice targets were unattainable for different reasons.

    What remains are the DM and LB where by Klopp decided not to do anything once the first choice targets are off. Dahoud will be visited again but for the LB, really have no idea what Klopp has in mind. Milner, in terms of the age and natural position, cannot be seen as a long term solution. If Moreno cannot improve to the required standard, we really have to splash on that position.

    maybe only have enough budget for 1?


  • 29 August 2016 - 02:32 PM
    Osprey23

    maybe only have enough budget for 1?


    Don't think budget is an issue bro.

    Last check, Pool's nett spending is �5.6m. We might not be very rich but if we want to spend, definitely can do better than this.
  • 29 August 2016 - 02:32 PM
    Spring

    Can't really comment on others but I do agree that if Pool can get Ricardo Rodriguez would be boss.

    This window however, I am still unable to comprehend Klopp's strategy.

    Karius, Matip and Klavan most straightforward to replace Bogdan, Skrtel and Kolo. Grujic already signed to replaced Allen.

    Then comes to the winger and AM position that we saw Klopp went ahead to splash on more expansive alternatives when the younger and cheaper first choice targets were unattainable for different reasons.

    What remains are the DM and LB where by Klopp decided not to do anything once the first choice targets are off. Dahoud will be visited again but for the LB, really have no idea what Klopp has in mind. Milner, in terms of the age and natural position, cannot be seen as a long term solution. If Moreno cannot improve to the required standard, we really have to splash on that position.

    Ricardo Rodriguez, Chelsea also want him and they have been rebuffed I think so doubt if Pool can get.

    http://www.90min.com...cardo-rodriguez

    I believe Klopp's idea is that if can't get the choices he wants, then might as well don't buy and wait for the right one but on the other hand, it's a big risk esp if he doesn't�have a suitable cover even academy ones�which seems to be the case.

    I read Chelsea are desperately short of defenders and they have been linked with quite a few but for some reason, no deal done (likely cos of price) and they waiting for the sellers to blink but in their case, they have some quality young defenders in their midst so can rely on them if they really can't get in their choices.

    In short, yes it is a strange decision on LB at Pool. I'm already on record here that I don't think Milner is the answer even though he is willing.�BTW, Christian Fuchs name has been floating around but my guess is it's just paper or agent talk.

    http://www.mirror.co...ristian-8722134


  • 29 August 2016 - 03:18 PM
    Jamesc

    Mauricio Pochettino will look to emulate�Liverpool�in the transfer market this summer � and says he wants a player similar to�Sadio Mane.

    Tottenham have shown an interest in Mane over the past year, and he was heavily tipped for a move to Spurs back in January.

    The Senegalese winger moved to Anfield this summer in a �30m deal from Southampton, and has been the club�s stand-out performer so far this season.

    Copy cat

    :D


  • 29 August 2016 - 04:47 PM
    Osprey23
    Borussia Dortmund have rejected a �12m bid from Liverpool for teenager Christian Pulisic according to Kicker

    As reported earlier by English jornos on our interest.

    Unlikely to happen this window.
  • 29 August 2016 - 04:53 PM
    Osprey23
    Chelsea and Man Utd are interested in Fabinho but will have to pay �25-30m for his services (L'Equipe)
  • 29 August 2016 - 05:07 PM
    Shorty

    Copy cat

    :D

    no surprise there. these 2 clubs have stolen pool's targets before.�


  • 29 August 2016 - 05:25 PM
    Jamesc

    no surprise there. these 2 clubs have stolen pool's targets before.�

    They need to get their own scouts.

    :D


  • 29 August 2016 - 05:27 PM
    Osprey23
    Sporting Lisbon striker Islam Slimani will join Leicester for �30m, and not the �40m quoted by the English press, according to L'Equipe
  • 29 August 2016 - 07:18 PM
    Osprey23
    Official: Southampton have completed the signing of Sofiane Boufal from Lille
  • 29 August 2016 - 07:44 PM
    Jamesc

    Official: Southampton have completed the signing of Sofiane Boufal from Lille

    Liverpool's next forward?

    :D


  • 29 August 2016 - 08:23 PM
    Osprey23

    Liverpool's next forward?

    :D

    Hehe all depend if he score at Anfield this season :D
  • 29 August 2016 - 09:44 PM
    Osprey23
    De Telegraf claim Richedly Bazoer is keen to leave Ajax this summer with Tottenham monitoring the situation.

    Hmm, how many DMs do Spurs need?
  • 29 August 2016 - 10:16 PM
    Spurman

    De Telegraf claim Richedly Bazoer is keen to leave Ajax this summer with Tottenham monitoring the situation.

    Hmm, how many DMs do Spurs need?

    Tats bollocks.

    Spurs though is heavily linked with isco and zaha.

    On the sales side. Chadli going for 13m to west brom.. a bit sayang as hes not bad a player... he was a regular at least played a couple of good games too but faded towards end of last season.

    Also linked out is mason. Anothet good backup plus hes english.

    Spurs do need isco to provide good competition to dele alli. Eriksen and lamela.

    Even min son likely to be sold to wolfsburg. And this may leave spurs short on wide man.

    Probably poch tinks edwards. Winks and onamah are good potential to be warranted on the bench and cup games
  • 29 August 2016 - 11:03 PM
    Osprey23
    Middlesbrough have agreed a deal to sign Calum Chambers on a season-long loan deal from Arsenal.
  • 29 August 2016 - 11:10 PM
    Osprey23

    Tats bollocks.

    Spurs though is heavily linked with isco and zaha.

    On the sales side. Chadli going for 13m to west brom.. a bit sayang as hes not bad a player... he was a regular at least played a couple of good games too but faded towards end of last season.

    Also linked out is mason. Anothet good backup plus hes english.

    Spurs do need isco to provide good competition to dele alli. Eriksen and lamela.

    Even min son likely to be sold to wolfsburg. And this may leave spurs short on wide man.

    Probably poch tinks edwards. Winks and onamah are good potential to be warranted on the bench and cup games

    DEAL DONE: West Brom have signed Nacer Chadli from Tottenham. 4-year deal. Undisclosed fee.

    Chadli has just been confirmed.

    Isco? Would his wage demand be an issue?
  • 30 August 2016 - 02:23 AM
    scr99

    ok !�


  • 30 August 2016 - 06:32 AM
    Osprey23
    Pool's squad trimming continues

    Andre Wisdom joining Red Bull Salzburg on season-long loan

    Luis Alberto close to a switch to Lazio for �4.2m

    Mario Balotelli is set to move to Nice.

    [Paul Joyce]
  • 30 August 2016 - 08:07 AM
    Osprey23
    According to ESPN, Hart is close to a loan move to Torino.
  • 30 August 2016 - 08:11 AM
    Ktglfc

    Pool's squad trimming continues

    Andre Wisdom joining Red Bull Salzburg on season-long loan

    Luis Alberto close to a switch to Lazio for �4.2m

    Mario Balotelli is set to move to Nice.

    [Paul Joyce]

    Every one out ... really looking forward to someone to come in ...


  • 30 August 2016 - 09:09 AM
    Osprey23

    Every one out ... really looking forward to someone to come in ...


    I think bo liao. Klopp is buy then sell. So that no one can say FSG not backing him :D
  • 30 August 2016 - 09:44 AM
    Osprey23
    Hearing Wilshere is allowed to leave Arsenal
  • 30 August 2016 - 09:53 AM
    Osprey23
    Spurs are now looking at alternatives to Zaha who Palace are simply refusing to sell. (Source - Bleacher Report)
  • 30 August 2016 - 11:24 AM
    Osprey23
    Chelsea are close to signing Inter's Marcelo Brozovic for �25m

    According to the same article, they are expected to complete the signing of left back Marcos Alonso from Fiorentina for �23m and are still in pursuit of a central defender.
  • 30 August 2016 - 11:30 AM
    Osprey23
    According to reports in Italy, Joe Hart will be travelling to Torino this afternoon for medical. Expected to sign a one year loan deal with Man City contributing a portion of his wage.

    Bye bye Joe.
  • 30 August 2016 - 11:40 AM
    L23

    According to reports in Italy, Joe Hart will be travelling to Torino this afternoon for medical. Expected to sign a one year loan deal with Man City contributing a portion of his wage.

    Bye bye Joe.

    A huge downgrade...

    Mario, are you joining him any time soon?� :grin:


  • 30 August 2016 - 11:46 AM
    Osprey23

    A huge downgrade...
    Mario, are you joining him any time soon? :grin:


    Mario heading to France apparently.
  • 30 August 2016 - 12:33 PM
    cashcow

    According to reports in Italy, Joe Hart will be travelling to Torino this afternoon for medical. Expected to sign a one year loan deal with Man City contributing a portion of his wage.

    Bye bye Joe.

    Playing away in Italy is better than playing for Slumberland I supposed.

    Would be under constant UK media microscope whenever things don't go well.

    Smart thinking move Joe.


  • 30 August 2016 - 01:33 PM
    Ngseeming

    Berahino jet off for holiday just when Stoke expressed hope in signing him.

    Look like he is also doing a Schweini and look set to see out his final year at WBA.


  • 30 August 2016 - 01:37 PM
    Osprey23

    Berahino jet off for holiday just when Stoke expressed hope in signing him.

    Look like he is also doing a Schweini and look set to see out his final year at WBA.


    His career really stagnated because of the face off with WBA. He tried to force a move for two years liao but always get blocked and relationship with manager soured.

    His pay is very low, so I think that's why WBA can afford to screw him up
  • 30 August 2016 - 02:27 PM
    Osprey23

    Hearing Wilshere is allowed to leave Arsenal


    10 EPL clubs have made loan offers for Wilshere & over dozen clubs on the Continent. None have offered more than 50% wages.

    Pool offered too I think. Thrown in the treatment table next to Sturridge in an attempt to lure him :D
  • 30 August 2016 - 02:38 PM
    Spring

    His career really stagnated because of the face off with WBA. He tried to force a move for two years liao but always get blocked and relationship with manager soured.

    His pay is very low, so I think that's why WBA can afford to screw him up

    I don't know who is worse off here, WBA or Berahino?

    WBA could have easily gotten 15-20mil for him and now likely to let him go for free next summer. Even though he's on low wages, it's disturbing to have an unhappy player in the dressing room, not to mention loss of a significant fee.

    As for Berahino, his career has stagnated. Was on the verge of the England squad and even if he leaves for free in the next summer window and thereby ensuring a fat sign on fee and likely higher wages, heavy price to pay and a couple of wasted�seasons�and plenty of catching up to do!�

    This is what I call lose-lose n that's why I don't believe in keeping an unhappy player!!


  • 30 August 2016 - 02:50 PM
    Ngseeming

    Apparently he could go for free next summer only if he goes abroad.

    WBA is entitled an undisclosed sum of money if he joins another english club on free transfer.


  • 30 August 2016 - 02:56 PM
    Osprey23

    Apparently he could go for free next summer only if he goes abroad.

    WBA is entitled an undisclosed sum of money if he joins another english club on free transfer.

    Yes, by next year he is still under 24. So if another English club signs him, they have to pay WBA a compensation set by tribunal.

    But with him frozen out and development stagnated, WBA would not be expecting much.

    So far the record tribunal fee is for Ings where Liverpool paid Burnley �6.5m and �1.5m addons

    Edited by Osprey23, 30 August 2016 - 02:57 PM.

  • 30 August 2016 - 03:25 PM
    Osprey23
    Aston Villa have launched a �20m bid for Hull City striker Abel Hern�ndez. (Source: Sky Sports & Daily Mail)
  • 30 August 2016 - 06:03 PM
    Osprey23
    Newcastle want Markovic

    ESPN reported that Liverpool rejected numerous approach for Ings, one of which is an offer in excess of �20m
  • 30 August 2016 - 06:44 PM
    Shorty

    Newcastle want Markovic

    ESPN reported that Liverpool rejected numerous approach for Ings, one of which is an offer in excess of £20m

    So we should expect him to start or at least on the bench, right? If klopp wants pressing fm front, ings fit the bill.
  • 30 August 2016 - 07:05 PM
    Hamburger
    Ings imo is more mobile than treatment table warmer.
  • 30 August 2016 - 07:11 PM
    Osprey23

    So we should expect him to start or at least on the bench, right? If klopp wants pressing fm front, ings fit the bill.


    Not sure bro.

    Full press - Firmino
    Counter - Origi
    Park bus - Sturridge

    I really think Ings might have to take the wide roles to start more regularly
  • 30 August 2016 - 08:06 PM
    Ngseeming

    A fan tweeted for his club to sign Wilshire on loan, to give Sturridge some company in hospital


  • 30 August 2016 - 08:25 PM
    Osprey23
    Sakho told to go on loan to save his Anfield career

    Doesn't make sense to me but well, Klopp is the boss.
  • 30 August 2016 - 08:43 PM
    Shorty

    Sakho told to go on loan to save his Anfield career

    Doesn't make sense to me but well, Klopp is the boss.

    Same....this sakho thing is really perplexing. Their reason to send him out on loan doesnt make sense. Its not as if he was out injured for a long period n came back a worse player. Hes out for a short period, which i believe most cases on affect a player's performance.

    N then saying they hv lovren, matip n klavan is enough is also stupid. Clearly sakho must b ahead of klavan. N saying there is also gomez n lucas...come on! Surely a real CB is ahead of a makeshift CB. N if gomez is ready, put him as LB, since the last i saw him olay really well is as a LB.
  • 30 August 2016 - 08:52 PM
    Osprey23

    Same....this sakho thing is really perplexing. Their reason to send him out on loan doesnt make sense. Its not as if he was out injured for a long period n came back a worse player. Hes out for a short period, which i believe most cases on affect a player's performance.

    N then saying they hv lovren, matip n klavan is enough is also stupid. Clearly sakho must b ahead of klavan. N saying there is also gomez n lucas...come on! Surely a real CB is ahead of a makeshift CB. N if gomez is ready, put him as LB, since the last i saw him olay really well is as a LB.


    Do note also we will be losing Matip during AFCON. So Lovren and Klavan must stay very fit during that period.

    Ya, if every injured player needs to be sent on loan to regain fitness, why Sturridge still here?:D

    Confirm something happened and we aren't aware of
  • 30 August 2016 - 08:55 PM
    Spurman
    Spurs transfer this season also low key and alsl low balling.

    And dunno y sell townsend earlier and now wan2 get zaha whereby i tink its a downgrade.

    Also min son bid accepted. Only after 1 yr and not muxh chance to prove himself.

    Seriously spurs have underperformed in transfer unless poch tinks winks. Edwards can become the next alli
  • 30 August 2016 - 09:11 PM
    Shorty

    Do note also we will be losing Matip during AFCON. So Lovren and Klavan must stay very fit during that period.

    Ya, if every injured player needs to be sent on loan to regain fitness, why Sturridge still here?:D

    Confirm something happened and we aren't aware of

    Thats y...im sure something happened, which i tink is only fair that the club reveal wat happened.
  • 30 August 2016 - 09:30 PM
    Osprey23

    Spurs transfer this season also low key and alsl low balling.

    And dunno y sell townsend earlier and now wan2 get zaha whereby i tink its a downgrade.

    Also min son bid accepted. Only after 1 yr and not muxh chance to prove himself.

    Seriously spurs have underperformed in transfer unless poch tinks winks. Edwards can become the next alli


    Actually Son is a strange buy. He has only a few years before he gets enlisted. Actually if now can let go, not a bad deal. At least can recoup.
  • 30 August 2016 - 09:35 PM
    Osprey23
    Marcos Alonso is now so close to Chelsea. Last offer is �27M and Fiorentina now seem is thinking to accept the bid
  • 30 August 2016 - 10:31 PM
    Osprey23
    Done deal: Palacd are delighted to confirm Lo�c R�my has joined on a season-long loan from Chelsea
  • 30 August 2016 - 11:50 PM
    Osprey23
    O Jogo earlier reported that Porto defender Bruno Martins Indi had arrived in England to discuss possible move. Immediately Pool and Everton were linked. Ended up, it is Stoke who are closing in to sign him on a loan deal after Mamadou Sakho rejected the chance to join Stoke on loan.
  • 31 August 2016 - 06:46 AM
    Osprey23

    Do note also we will be losing Matip during AFCON. So Lovren and Klavan must stay very fit during that period.

    Ya, if every injured player needs to be sent on loan to regain fitness, why Sturridge still here?:D

    Confirm something happened and we aren't aware of


    Looks like I am wrong on Matip. He is on a self-imposed exile and won't be going to AFCON.

    http://www.liverpool...mposed-11820074
  • 31 August 2016 - 06:59 AM
    Hosaybo
    Guess Mane will be the main one that is going to be missed.
  • 31 August 2016 - 07:04 AM
    Osprey23
    Sporting Lisbon have agreed a deal to sell Islam Slimani to Leicester for �30m. (Source - Sky Sports)
  • 31 August 2016 - 07:51 AM
    Spring
    Kenedy loan by Chelsea to Watford. Seen this guy few times n I like him.
    Skilful n willing to take on opponents like most Brazilians. Think Watford got a good player though if their style of play doesn't suit him then may not be a good fit but I'm expecting this guy to go places.
  • 31 August 2016 - 08:34 AM
    Spring
    This has got to be a joke or paper talk right Osprey23?
    PlayStation CB returning to EPL?

    http://www.express.c...l-today-reports

    Edited by Spring, 31 August 2016 - 08:38 AM.

  • 31 August 2016 - 08:48 AM
    Ngseeming

    Quite wide reported so may not be just rumour.

    Chelski could be happy to have "loaned" him out to PSG for fitness and experince then have him back for a good profit.


  • 31 August 2016 - 08:56 AM
    Osprey23

    Quite wide reported so may not be just rumour.

    Chelski could be happy to have "loaned" him out to PSG for fitness and experince then have him back for a good profit.


    Well, if Man Utd can loan Pogba out for 4 years to development, Chelsea loaning out Luiz don't really sound impossible :D
  • 31 August 2016 - 09:01 AM
    Fooblack

    Well, if Man Utd can loan Pogba out for 4 years to development, Chelsea loaning out Luiz don't really sound impossible :D

    not sure why they would want a CB who can't really defend. I though Conte's style is a bit more defensively-minded... having an attack-minded CB doesnt really fit in.. �just commenting aloud..�


  • 31 August 2016 - 09:05 AM
    Osprey23

    not sure why they would want a CB who can't really defend. I though Conte's style is a bit more defensively-minded... having an attack-minded CB doesnt really fit in.. just commenting aloud..


    If he wants to try 3 CBs at the back, Luiz might be useful.
  • 31 August 2016 - 09:11 AM
    Ngseeming

    Well, if Man Utd can loan Pogba out for 4 years to development, Chelsea loaning out Luiz don't really sound impossible :D

    Or can we say Chelski/Conte is a quick learner? [:p] [:p]

    Just that they made a tiny profit on theirs.


    Edited by Ngseeming, 31 August 2016 - 09:11 AM.

  • 31 August 2016 - 09:13 AM
    Fooblack

    as the transfer window comes to a close, it is unlikely to see any further additions to Pool. �Likely departures are Mario, Markovic and Illori. �I think Sakho is going to stay as he looks likely to reject loan approaches.

    It is a bit of strange window as we look back at Klopp's first summer transfer. The squad definitely looks more like his style now. �However, the big questions remained unanswered as there is hardly much net spent. The LB position and DM remained unfilled. �The coffeeshop talk is that perhaps he is trying to conceal serious budget constraints...

    another question is that it seems that his preferred formation, at least for the time being is the 4-3-3 �(or 4-5-1). This may be due to the type of players at his disposal. �Under Klopp, Pool always looks more balanced with a 4-2-3-1 so this issue also comes as a slight surprise, at least to me. �Whether in time to come, Klopp will resettle the squad back to this "ideal" formation will be an interesting future development. �


    If he wants to try 3 CBs at the back, Luiz might be useful.

    if so, I would be more than happy lol. �3-CB formation team rarely do well in the EPL.. ��


  • 31 August 2016 - 09:15 AM
    Ngseeming

    as the transfer window comes to a close, it is unlikely to see any further additions to Pool. �Likely departures are Mario, Markovic and Illori. �I think Sakho is going to stay as he looks likely to reject loan approaches.

    It is a bit of strange window as we look back at Klopp's first summer transfer. The squad definitely looks more like his style now. �However, the big questions remained unanswered as there is hardly much net spent. The LB position and DM remained unfilled. �The coffeeshop talk is that perhaps he is trying to conceal serious budget constraints...

    another question is that it seems that his preferred formation, at least for the time being is the 4-3-3 �(or 4-5-1). This may be due to the type of players at his disposal. �Under Klopp, Pool always looks more balanced with a 4-2-3-1 so this issue also comes as a slight surprise, at least to me. �Whether in time to come, Klopp will resettle the squad back to this "ideal" formation will be an interesting future development. �

    Soccernet has a good article on

    http://www.espnfcasi...left-back-links

    This was troubling for a number of reasons. Some fans felt the manager was covering up for the lack of squad investment by claiming he knew his left-back options were already sound -- a view certainly not shared by the majority of supporters.

    At a time when the more likely scenario is more players leaving, supporters may look back on such uncertain times as the good old days.

    Though it's arguable Klopp shouldn't need more players for a season with a greatly reduced workload, it may be fatal for a club to stand still while others -- already ahead of them anyway -- invest heavily.


    Edited by Ngseeming, 31 August 2016 - 09:21 AM.

  • 31 August 2016 - 09:37 AM
    Shorty

    Soccernet has a good article on

    http://www.espnfcasi...left-back-links

    This was troubling for a number of reasons. Some fans felt the manager was covering up for the lack of squad investment by claiming he knew his left-back options were already sound -- a view certainly not shared by the majority of supporters.

    At a time when the more likely scenario is more players leaving, supporters may look back on such uncertain times as the good old days.

    Though it's arguable Klopp shouldn't need more players for a season with a greatly reduced workload, it may be fatal for a club to stand still while others -- already ahead of them anyway -- invest heavily.

    True. N even if they don need so many players due to lighter schedule,wat if they do qualify for europe next season? Only then they wanna look for players? By then, the new players will need time to gel. N it will b a disappointing season agn when the 1st team players get fatigue n new players unable to adapt quickly.

    N then they will kancheong, sell the under performing players, buy a few more...n this repeat agn n agn. A team forever in rebuilding.
  • 31 August 2016 - 09:41 AM
    Osprey23

    Soccernet has a good article on

    http://www.espnfcasi...left-back-links

    This was troubling for a number of reasons. Some fans felt the manager was covering up for the lack of squad investment by claiming he knew his left-back options were already sound -- a view certainly not shared by the majority of supporters.

    At a time when the more likely scenario is more players leaving, supporters may look back on such uncertain times as the good old days.

    Though it's arguable Klopp shouldn't need more players for a season with a greatly reduced workload, it may be fatal for a club to stand still while others -- already ahead of them anyway -- invest heavily.

    If Klopp is told specifically that this window his nett spend will be zero, do you think he will sit extend his contract for 3 more years? He does not have to tie himself to Liverpool if there is sign of financial constraints.

    Klopp joined in Oct last season and in the Jan window, he wasted no time to secure Grujic and Matip. This window is the first he had and his objective is to clear house. Keeping those he needs and moving on those he doesn't. If we look at the signings he made, they are clearly upgrades on those departed, either in terms of quality or suitability to his style.

    Shared earlier that Klopp has managed to address all areas barring the LB and DM position. DM I roughly can guess he is waiting for the one he wants but LB, I am more clueless. He works with the players and if he feels that Milner can do the job there as LB, I shall not question his decision now. Will wait till end of season before commenting.

    As a Pool fan, I am happy with this window, especially on the outgoing. Some really brilliant business there to recoup on those players he wants to shift. Incoming wise, I feel at least there is now a direction. FSG is trusting Klopp and Klopp repays them with his prudent spending for not spending.

    If we look back at his tenure at BVB, his first window is also to clear house, shifting 10 over players out. So I can safely say this is how Klopp works, nothing to do with any hidden financial agenda.

    Edited by Osprey23, 31 August 2016 - 09:53 AM.

  • 31 August 2016 - 09:51 AM
    Osprey23

    True. N even if they don need so many players due to lighter schedule,wat if they do qualify for europe next season? Only then they wanna look for players? By then, the new players will need time to gel. N it will b a disappointing season agn when the 1st team players get fatigue n new players unable to adapt quickly.

    N then they will kancheong, sell the under performing players, buy a few more...n this repeat agn n agn. A team forever in rebuilding.


    I believe when we do have European commitment next season, Klopp will just add on to the core he has built from this window. I will not be expecting wholesale changes made to the team. With all the money saved, next window could be massive if Klopp wants to strengthen. Not forgetting the potential incoming of the Chinese investment.

    In gist, I believe our rebuilding is in this window, with the massive clear out of unwanted players. From here on, will be strengthening.
  • 31 August 2016 - 09:57 AM
    Ngseeming

    I stand corrected, but Klopp got his contract extended well before this transfer window started. So maybe balls got squeezed but can't cry out loud? [grin] [grin]

    As long as Bro O23 is happy with it, that is what really matters for each individual. After all as Shankly or� Paisley said football is not life and death.........................................................................................................................it's more than that.

    Correction, it was Paisley and his exact quote is :

    "Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more� important than that."

    In gist, I believe our rebuilding is in this window, with the massive clear out of unwanted players. From here on, will be strengthening.

    Lots of LFC detractors said their supporters are delusional.

    I have to disagree.

    They are just patient. After all patience is a great virtue. (sorry for the dig but the wickedness in me.... )


    Edited by Ngseeming, 31 August 2016 - 10:02 AM.

  • 31 August 2016 - 10:03 AM
    Osprey23

    I stand corrected, but Klopp got his contract extended well before this transfer window started. So maybe balls got squeezed but can't cry out loud? [grin] [grin]

    As long as Bro O23 is happy with it, that is what really matters for each individual. After all as Shankly or Paisley said football is not life and death.........................................................................................................................it's more than that.



    Lots of LFC detractors said their supporters are delusional.

    I have to disagree.

    They are just patient. After all patience is a great virtue. (sorry for the dig)

    Hehe then pardon me to correct you. Klopp extended contract on 8 July. Transfer window opens 1 Jul.

    Also, when I say I am happy, I only speak for myself leh. I don't represent anyone else

    Liverpool fans are generally the same as most others lah, we are all human beings. When we are optimistic, to others we might sound delusional. When we are trying to be patient, others say we lack of ambition.

    Patience being a virtue coming from an Utd fan certainly sounds real. You guys showed great patience before SAF arrived on the big stage. So certainly justified to comment that.

    Edited by Osprey23, 31 August 2016 - 10:04 AM.

  • 31 August 2016 - 10:03 AM
    Shorty

    I stand corrected, but Klopp got his contract extended well before this transfer window started. So maybe balls got squeezed but can't cry out loud? [grin] [grin]

    As long as Bro O23 is happy with it, that is what really matters for each individual. After all as Shankly or� Paisley said football is not life and death.........................................................................................................................it's more than that.


    Lots of LFC detractors said their supporters are delusional.

    I have to disagree.

    They are just patient. After all patience is a great virtue. (sorry for the dig but the wickedness in me.... )

    pity us pool fans, right? how long hv we been patient?? at least u man u fans only need to b patient for 2 season...when moyes n lvg were managers. this season already looking good for u. while pool still finding their feet.


  • 31 August 2016 - 10:09 AM
    WoeiSongKeh

    The thing is that we have identify players we wanted but somehow we are not going to pay extra premium for it. I agree paying crazy prices is not the way but certain gaps and some position determine win/lose thus the need to pay even we get chop like a Carrot


  • 31 August 2016 - 10:10 AM
    Ngseeming

    Football league is not unlike TV Drama, you need people (team) to play hero, villain, beauty, beast and crowd (also runs)


  • 31 August 2016 - 10:13 AM
    ins1dious

    Hilarious conversation this morning with my die-hard Spuds supporting cuz... when I sent him the pic of all the players bought for over 100m using the Bale cash... and their status now

  • 31 August 2016 - 05:59 PM
    Osprey23
    Spurs want Sissoko.

    Newcastle want �30m for him.

    Spurs offer �16m.

    Levy vs Ashley.

    Let's see who win
  • 31 August 2016 - 06:09 PM
    Osprey23

    And you all still say have not replaced suarez

    To be agonized, you need to have success first.... so how can spurs fans be in agony...lol

    Just some friendly rivalry... mai angry hor


    How to replace the best striker in the world?
  • 31 August 2016 - 06:46 PM
    Osprey23

    I hope he choose AC Milan... [:p]

    http://www.mirror.co...ours-ac-8738508


    BBC reported Roma most likely.
  • 31 August 2016 - 07:00 PM
    Osprey23
    Yacine Brahimi to Everton looks very likely.

    [Ed Malyon, Mirror]
  • 31 August 2016 - 07:16 PM
    Osprey23
    Eliaquim Mangala is having a medical in Valencia right now ahead of a move from Manchester City. (Source: The Times)
  • 31 August 2016 - 08:15 PM
    Othello

    Spurs want Sissoko.

    Newcastle want £30m for him.

    Spurs offer £16m.

    Levy vs Ashley.

    Let's see who win


    Levy is every chairman's dream. sell own lousy player for profit, then lowball good players from elsewhere.... Haha

    Edited by Othello, 31 August 2016 - 08:16 PM.

  • 31 August 2016 - 08:59 PM
    Osprey23
    DEAL DONE: Stoke City have signed Wilfried Bony from Manchester City on a season-long loan. Stoke paid a loan fee of �2m
  • 31 August 2016 - 09:11 PM
    Osprey23
    Didier Ndong has joined Sunderland for �20m from Lorient on a 5 year deal
  • 31 August 2016 - 09:15 PM
    Galantspeedz

    How to replace the best striker in the world?


    Well... it is after all a team game...
  • 31 August 2016 - 09:19 PM
    Othello

    DEAL DONE: Stoke City have signed Wilfried Bony from Manchester City on a season-long loan. Stoke paid a loan fee of �2m

    wah, Stoke major INs past 1 year ...... Under a different mgr, they might be a force to reckon with�


  • 31 August 2016 - 09:20 PM
    Osprey23
    OFFICIAL: Samir Nasri has moved to Sevilla from Manchester City on a season-long loan.
  • 31 August 2016 - 09:22 PM
    Osprey23

    Well... it is after all a team game...


    True. But having a world class striker will make you a title contender from just a top 4 challenger.

    Edited by Osprey23, 31 August 2016 - 09:48 PM.

  • 31 August 2016 - 09:47 PM
    Osprey23
    According to French reports:

    PSG would allow David Luiz to join Chelsea if they secure the signing of Rodrigo Caio.
  • 31 August 2016 - 09:48 PM
    cashcow

    Bruno Martins Indi to Stoke on loan

    bruno-martins-indi_3775873.jpg?201608302

    What happen to Pool's interest ah?

    SkySports


    Edited by cashcow, 31 August 2016 - 09:48 PM.

  • 31 August 2016 - 09:48 PM
    Osprey23

    Bruno Martins Indi to Stoke on loan

    What happen to Pool's interest ah?

    SkySports


    Agent's story loh
  • 31 August 2016 - 10:30 PM
    Osprey23
    BREAKING: David Luiz has agreed a deal to sign for Chelsea from Paris Saint-Germain. Announcement will come this afternoon. (Daily Mail)

    This is a summer of "Home-coming"

    Edited by Osprey23, 31 August 2016 - 10:30 PM.

  • 31 August 2016 - 10:34 PM
    Osprey23
    Leicester City have agreed to meet Adrien Silva's �38.5m release clause at Sporting.
  • 31 August 2016 - 11:11 PM
    Osprey23
    Update on Liverpool's clearing house exercise

    http://www.liverpool...edical-11824921
  • 31 August 2016 - 11:12 PM
    Osprey23
    OFFICIAL: Middlesbrough have signed Adama Traor� from Aston Villa for an undisclosed fee.
  • 31 August 2016 - 11:22 PM
    Galantspeedz

    True. But having a world class striker will make you a title contender from just a top 4 challenger.


    Agree... but that's why you have so many players to replace one
  • 31 August 2016 - 11:43 PM
    Osprey23
    Former Reds' full-back Alvaro Arbeloa having a medical at West Ham.

    Would have been a good cover for Pool
  • 31 August 2016 - 11:51 PM
    Osprey23

    Agree... but that's why you have so many players to replace one

    It was a scattered gun approach bro. Once Sanchez rejected us for Arsenal, Pool given up on signing a direct replacement liao. The signings did not address any particular concerns, seems to me is like trying to get many in hopefully one or two will come good.

    That's why I like the way Pool conducting transfers now. Structured and decisive.

    Edited by Osprey23, 31 August 2016 - 11:51 PM.

  • 31 August 2016 - 11:52 PM
    Osprey23
    My wish comes true. :D

    BREAKING: Jack Wilshere to sign for Bournemouth on loan. Arsenal rejected Roma, Palace think their bid over & focusing elsewhere.

    [BBC]

    Edited by Osprey23, 31 August 2016 - 11:54 PM.

  • 31 August 2016 - 11:58 PM
    Osprey23
    Luis Alberto's move to Lazio in details

    http://www.liverpool...m-deal-11825422

    Pool recoup everything paid for him.
  • 01 September 2016 - 06:26 AM
    Osprey23
    Ashley won. Spurs paid �30m for Sissoko. Rafa recoup �68m this summer for Newcastle
  • 01 September 2016 - 06:54 AM
    Osprey23
    Markovic completed loan deal to Sporting Lisbon.

    Balotelli moved to Nice on a free transfer.
  • 01 September 2016 - 07:27 AM
    Shorty
    Spurs really like to hijack other club's target.
  • 01 September 2016 - 08:04 AM
    Spring

    Quite wide reported so may not be just rumour.

    Chelski could be happy to have "loaned" him out to PSG for fitness and experince then have him back for a good profit.


    Looks like the joke's on me instead. Really thought the Luiz back to Chelsea report was just paper talk but it's real haha! This guy has some good qualities but don't think he's a proper defender n to pay �32mil seems Abit high for his age.

    Meanwhile Stoke seems to be winners this window getting good players like Bony n Indi added to their already good squad. Well done n good luck!!
  • 01 September 2016 - 08:08 AM
    Osprey23
    Good summary of this window.

    13 EPL clubs broken their transfer records.

    However, there is an obvious gulf in terms of spending power.

    Attached Thumbnails

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  • 01 September 2016 - 08:27 AM
    Scion

    wah so many loan deals

    wonder if they have clauses that prevent the loaned players from playing against their mother clubs?

    always love it when the players come back to haunt the clubs that have loaned them out


  • 01 September 2016 - 08:29 AM
    Spring
    Juan Cuadrado from Chelsea to Juve for 3 yr loan sounds strange to me.
    Nvr heard of a player going on loan for more than 2yrs if not mistaken. Maybe Juve's way of conforming to FFP? Chelsea don't have to conform to FFP this season since they not in Europe so don't mind this arrangement I guess n obviously the loan fees Shld add up. No proof on this n my conjecture only.
  • 01 September 2016 - 08:37 AM
    Osprey23

    wah so many loan deals

    wonder if they have clauses that prevent the loaned players from playing against their mother clubs?

    always love it when the players come back to haunt the clubs that have loaned them out


    No need clause I think. EPL ruling stipulates that players on loan are not eligible to play against their parent clubs still holding to their registration.
  • 01 September 2016 - 08:47 AM
    ins1dious

    Markovic completed loan deal to Sporting Lisbon.

    Balotelli moved to Nice on a free transfer.

    Free? wow... how low has that fellas stock fallen... wasn't he bought for 15m+?�

    This is Super Mario's last chance to redeem himself I think...


  • 01 September 2016 - 08:52 AM
    Fooblack

    Free? wow... how low has that fellas stock fallen... wasn't he bought for 15m+?�

    This is Super Mario's last chance to redeem himself I think...

    the greatest joke or compliment �i heard is that this deal was so welcomed by pool fans that they would have gladly added Moreno as a add-on sweetener if Nice has problems accepting Balo on free lol :)�


  • 01 September 2016 - 09:01 AM
    Osprey23

    Juan Cuadrado from Chelsea to Juve for 3 yr loan sounds strange to me.
    Nvr heard of a player going on loan for more than 2yrs if not mistaken. Maybe Juve's way of conforming to FFP? Chelsea don't have to conform to FFP this season since they not in Europe so don't mind this arrangement I guess n obviously the loan fees Shld add up. No proof on this n my conjecture only.


    Luiz is the strange one I feel. Firstly, when he went for �50m, it was super overpriced and now for no apparent reason, Chelsea resigned him. I have a feeling there is some "secret" arrangement between the clubs. :D

    Free? wow... how low has that fellas stock fallen... wasn't he bought for 15m+?

    This is Super Mario's last chance to redeem himself I think...


    �16m. He has too many last chances liao. When Klopp who is known to enjoy developing players don't even bother to try, it is telling.

    Look on the bright side, at least now Pool no longer has to pay �90kpw for nothing. This window really free up a huge chunk of wages. Let's see how Pool going to use that subsequently.
  • 01 September 2016 - 09:01 AM
    Ngseeming

    With window closed and imminent closing of this thread,� wish to share an article on soccernet on true transfer costs of:

    http://www.espnfcasi...cost-man-united

    Not just for these players but it applies across the board for all transfers in general.

    One interesting point that many of us may not know:

    The past two years, Liverpool have spent around �100 million on Southampton players but have earned one fewer league point than the Saints over that period (123 versus 122). [lipsrsealed] [lipsrsealed]


    Edited by Ngseeming, 01 September 2016 - 09:09 AM.

  • 01 September 2016 - 09:05 AM
    Osprey23

    Spurs really like to hijack other club's target.


    Feeling quite sad for Everton. They had a private jet waiting for him at Newcastle but Sissoko was already on his way to London.

    Edited by Osprey23, 01 September 2016 - 09:10 AM.

  • 01 September 2016 - 09:05 AM
    Fooblack

    Luiz is the strange one I feel. Firstly, when he went for �50m, it was super overpriced and now for no apparent reason, Chelsea resigned him. I have a feeling there is some "secret" arrangement between the clubs. :D

    i find the Luiz deal beyond comprehension too and it was also highlighted by many others. ��

    I think it's really an attempt to replace John Terry who is surely into his last season. Perhaps the defensive-minded Conte can work some magic into Luiz and helped him become a real defender for once? only time will tell. �


  • 01 September 2016 - 09:09 AM
    Osprey23

    With window closed and imminent closing of this thread, wish to share an article on soccernet on true transfer costs of:

    http://www.espnfcasi...cost-man-united

    Not just for these 2 MU players but it applies across the board for all transfers in general.


    Thanks, this is the cost players are to clubs. For fans, usually they just look at fees paid.
  • 01 September 2016 - 09:12 AM
    Ngseeming

    �Perhaps the defensive-minded Conte can work some magic into Luiz and helped him become a real defender for once? only time will tell. �

    Or due to budget or other constraints, he opts for a 2 in 1 defender and attacking midfielder.

    Some would say 3 in 1, centre forward as well.


  • 01 September 2016 - 09:16 AM
    ins1dious

    Feeling quite sad for Everton. They had a private jet waiting for him at Newcastle but Sissoko was already on his way to London.

    Yes... tough for Everton and Koeman that he pulled out in the last minute... really unethical of the player to renege on a deal... switching off his phone when the jet was ready to pick him up, etc.

    I don't think this type of mercenary player is one for the future. Always having his heart with another club. Better for Everton to look elsewhere.


  • 01 September 2016 - 09:21 AM
    Fooblack

    Or due to budget or other constraints, he opts for a 2 in 1 defender and attacking midfielder.

    Some would say 3 in 1, centre forward as well.

    at this rate, we will also need to convert him into a make-shift GK... �sibei value-added Singaporean style employment tactics lol�


    Yes... tough for Everton and Koeman that he pulled out in the last minute... really unethical of the player to renege on a deal... switching off his phone when the jet was ready to pick him up, etc.

    I don't think this type of mercenary player is one for the future. Always having his heart with another club. Better for Everton to look elsewhere.

    actually if you were him... i think a choice between everton and spurs is pretty clear right. I think the jet ticket probably forced Spurs to up their initial low ball offer of 15M. �Sissoko probably used it to his advantage and seal the deal with spurs. �

    just feel for everton... they tried to get so many good players during the summer yet ended really with nothing much. �


    With window closed and imminent closing of this thread,� wish to share an article on soccernet on true transfer costs of:

    http://www.espnfcasi...cost-man-united

    Not just for these players but it applies across the board for all transfers in general.

    One interesting point that many of us may not know:

    The past two years, Liverpool have spent around �100 million on Southampton players but have earned one fewer league point than the Saints over that period (123 versus 122). [lipsrsealed] [lipsrsealed]

    Saints are Pool's unofficial appointed scouts.. you dun noe meh lol �

    both clubs have very �similar playing styles.. so you can imagine the players attractions. �


  • 01 September 2016 - 09:36 AM
    Scion

    Free? wow... how low has that fellas stock fallen... wasn't he bought for 15m+?�

    This is Super Mario's last chance to redeem himself I think...

    give him another season to implode

    then he will be off to China, Qatar or MLS

    after that he will retire from�football�at 28 cos no more clubs want him [laugh]


  • 01 September 2016 - 09:36 AM
    Beregond

    i find the Luiz deal beyond comprehension too and it was also highlighted by many others. ��

    I think it's really an attempt to replace John Terry who is surely into his last season. Perhaps the defensive-minded Conte can work some magic into Luiz and helped him become a real defender for once? only time will tell. �

    john �terry say last season last season, for at least 2 - 3 season liao??

    till now he is still the best performing cb for chel. if his form last the whole season.�

    very likely have another last season.

    after all he is not known for his speed.


  • 01 September 2016 - 09:40 AM
    Osprey23

    Saints are Pool's unofficial appointed scouts.. you dun noe meh lol

    both clubs have very similar playing styles.. so you can imagine the players attractions.


    Unofficial feeder club I think. :D

    Waiting eagerly for us to host them at Anfield.
  • 01 September 2016 - 09:44 AM
    Shorty

    With window closed and imminent closing of this thread,� wish to share an article on soccernet on true transfer costs of:

    http://www.espnfcasi...cost-man-united

    Not just for these players but it applies across the board for all transfers in general.

    One interesting point that many of us may not know:

    The past two years, Liverpool have spent around �100 million on Southampton players but have earned one fewer league point than the Saints over that period (123 versus 122). [lipsrsealed] [lipsrsealed]

    imagine if pool had not bought those players fm them...pool will b 100m richer n hv more points!!!� [lipsrsealed]


  • 01 September 2016 - 09:54 AM
    Fooblack

    Unofficial feeder club I think. :D

    Waiting eagerly for us to host them at Anfield.

    the next saint player to score at anfield will get a contract waiting for him after the game :)�

    transfer fee no issue

    no wonder the saint players so motivated every time they play pool� [bounce2][bounce2][bounce2]


    the other headline for pool is that Sakho refused to take a timeout and go out on loan.�

    i think this is not going down well with Klopp and the hierarchy for sure. �

    �he might see much (if any) game time unless the other center backs get injured or suspended concurrently... �


    Edited by Fooblack, 01 September 2016 - 09:52 AM.

  • 01 September 2016 - 09:57 AM
    Shorty

    the next saint player to score at anfield will get a contract waiting for him after the game :)�

    transfer fee no issue

    no wonder the saint players so motivated every time they play pool� [bounce2][bounce2][bounce2]


    the other headline for pool is that Sakho refused to take a timeout and go out on loan.�

    i think this is not going down well with Klopp and the hierarchy for sure. �

    �he might see much (if any) game time unless the other center backs get injured or suspended concurrently... �

    i hope this is his way of saying that he is sorry, will change n will fight to regain klopp's trust. n if he n the club is professional enough, i hope klopp gives him another chance.�


  • 01 September 2016 - 09:57 AM
    Osprey23

    imagine if pool had not bought those players fm them...pool will b 100m richer n hv more points!!! [lipsrsealed]


    Not sure about �100m. Lambert �4m, Lallana �25m, Lovren �20m, Clyne �12.5m.

    Can't possibly add in Mane's fee now right?
  • 01 September 2016 - 10:04 AM
    Osprey23
    Last post from me here.

    http://www.transferm.../saison_id/2016

    For those interested can take a look at the above link for the transfers of all EPL clubs this summer.

    Pool nett spending at �600k :D.

    City beats Utd to the top of the spending table while Southampton topped the profit table.

    Has been quite a interesting window with many home coming players. Window closed and now excitement back to the pitch.

    Thanks all for the sharing, contribution, view and bantering :)
  • 01 September 2016 - 11:33 AM
    L23

    Last post from me here.

    http://www.transferm.../saison_id/2016

    For those interested can take a look at the above link for the transfers of all EPL clubs this summer.

    Pool nett spending at �600k :D.

    City beats Utd to the top of the spending table while Southampton topped the profit table.

    Has been quite a interesting window with many home coming players. Window closed and now excitement back to the pitch.

    Thanks all for the sharing, contribution, view and bantering :)

    See you in 6 month time [wave]


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