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Abit higher price than I thought but goes to show market is inflated that even Bony who has had little game time commands a 30mil price tag. City would make money if sold at that price.
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Think City will let go if 25mil or even slightly lesser esp if not many teams are after him.
Abit higher price than I thought but goes to show market is inflated that even Bony who has had little game time commands a 30mil price tag. City would make money if sold at that price.
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Think City will let go if 25mil or even slightly lesser esp if not many teams are after him.
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Yalor the inflation is scary, but they got the money to pay lah�
Citeh has bought a few good players few years back from 20-30m range, now most of them should worth more.�
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I shudder when I imagine how much a 23-year-old Messi could potentially cost now�
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Side-track from the transfer news:
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The Champions League is reportedly set to be reformed from the 2018/19 season onwards, with changes to qualification rules for the top four leagues in Europe.
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Under a proposed new qualification format, the Premier League, La Liga, Serie A and the Bundesliga could all be guaranteed four clubs qualifying automatically every season.
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However, one new feature of the rule is that while the top three teams in each domestic league would earn a place in the group stage, the fourth would be decided on something described as �historical merit�, according to Gazzetta dello Sport.
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It�s not yet clear what the specifics of this will mean, but the aim is to keep in giants of the game such as Manchester United, Liverpool and AC Milan, all of whom have been in and out of the competition in recent years due to poor showings in the league.
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Side-track from the transfer news:
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Advent to the Super League?
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The Champions League is reportedly set to be reformed from the 2018/19 season onwards, with changes to qualification rules for the top four leagues in Europe.
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Under a proposed new qualification format, the Premier League, La Liga, Serie A and the Bundesliga could all be guaranteed four clubs qualifying automatically every season.
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However, one new feature of the rule is that while the top three teams in each domestic league would earn a place in the group stage, the fourth would be decided on something described as �historical merit�, according to Gazzetta dello Sport.
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It�s not yet clear what the specifics of this will mean, but the aim is to keep in giants of the game such as Manchester United, Liverpool and AC Milan, all of whom have been in and out of the competition in recent years due to poor showings in the league.
��MU, I believe, has no need to get into UCL through the back door.�
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I've posted before that UCL or any competition qualification for that matter should never be a closed door one ie old boys club. Qualification should always be based on merit and the current system is I thought adequate but as usual those greedy clubs who have already made it want permanent membership and don't want gate crashers.
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Having permanent membership, will deny up and coming clubs a chance�to join the elite which denies smaller�clubs and their fans to fulfil a dream to be amongst the elite and explains why there is so much resentment when a rich owner takes over a club and made worse when they splash the cash on strengthening the playing squad.
I don't think Klopp will let this opportunity slips
Very open statement. So meaning if he wins the league title, he might stay on or he may leave
Meanwhile, Arsenal fails to agree on new contracts with 2 of its biggest stars : Ozul & Sanchez
Ranieri will have his wage increases to �3m per year
Sky Sports' pundits on the Premier League:
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NEVILLE: Man Utd
CARRAGHER: Man City
HENRY: Man City
REDKNAPP: Man City
SOUNESS: Man Utd
Man Utd and Man City tipped to win league, and it is 3 vs 2 that City will be the winner.
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NEVILLE:�1. Man Utd 2. Arsenal 3. Man City 4. Liverpool
CARRAGHER:�1. Man City 2. Chelsea 3. Man Utd 4. Liverpool
HENRY: 1. Man City 2. Man Utd. 3. Chelsea 4. Arsenal
REDKNAPP:� 1. Man City 2. Man Utd 3. Tottenham 4. Liverpool
SOUNESS: 1. Man Utd 2. Man City. 3. Tottenham 4. Arsenal
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NEVILLE: Sergio Aguero
CARRAGHER: Harry Kane
HENRY: Sergio Aguero
REDKNAPP: Harry Kane
SOUNESS: Sergio Aguero
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NEVILLE: Zlatan Ibrahimovic
CARRAGHER: Kevin De Bruyne
HENRY: Sadio Mane
REDKNAPP: Henrikh Mkhitaryan
SOUNESS: Zlatan Ibrahimovic
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Sky Sports' pundits on the Premier League:
Who would be your early tip to win the Premier League?�
NEVILLE: Man Utd
CARRAGHER: Man City
HENRY: Man City
REDKNAPP: Man City
SOUNESS: Man Utd
Man Utd and Man City tipped to win league, and it is 3 vs 2 that City will be the winner.
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Who will make up the rest of the top four?�NEVILLE:�1. Man Utd 2. Arsenal 3. Man City 4. Liverpool
CARRAGHER:�1. Man City 2. Chelsea 3. Man Utd 4. Liverpool
HENRY: 1. Man City 2. Man Utd. 3. Chelsea 4. Arsenal
REDKNAPP:� 1. Man City 2. Man Utd 3. Tottenham 4. Liverpool
SOUNESS: 1. Man Utd 2. Man City. 3. Tottenham 4. Arsenal
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Who's your tip for top scorer?�NEVILLE: Sergio Aguero
CARRAGHER: Harry Kane
HENRY: Sergio Aguero
REDKNAPP: Harry Kane
SOUNESS: Sergio Aguero
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Which player are you most excited to watch in the Premier League next season?�NEVILLE: Zlatan Ibrahimovic
CARRAGHER: Kevin De Bruyne
HENRY: Sadio Mane
REDKNAPP: Henrikh Mkhitaryan
SOUNESS: Zlatan Ibrahimovic
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Ars�ne Wenger on Five Live: "My contract runs until the end of the season. What I do after will depend on how the season goes"
Very open statement. So meaning if he wins the league title, he might stay on or he may leave
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i am quite sure if he wins the title, he will leave...
i am surprised no one considered spurs to be in top 4
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my take is arsenal, man city, chelsea and spurs in no particular order
Meanwhile, Arsenal fails to agree on new contracts with 2 of its biggest stars : Ozul & Sanchez
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between ozil and sanchez, i value ozil more but if both sign good lar
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Which manager are you most excited to watch in the Premier League next season to get sacked?�L23: JM follow by AW�
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I'm not looking forward to anybody getting sacked but I'm keen to see Pep and Conte cos they are new to the EPL.
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Pep is supposedly a really good Mgr and has quite a CV. Conte is supposedly a tactical genius and his passion is well known. Would have loved to see Simeone in EPL as well and my personal favourite Ancelotti though boring but a good Mgr and conducts himself well
Official: We are delighted to confirm that Claudio Ranieri has signed a new contract to June, 2020!
Ranieri will have his wage increases to �3m per year
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And how about this news??
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Leicester City players were awarded by their chairman with a brand new BMW i8 each after their historic English Premier League win a few months ago.�According to Carscoops, the�club's chairman Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha�is said to have forked out almost S$2.70 million to buy 19 BMW i8s. Not that the chairman's wallet would hurt, as he is worth more than S$4 billion. Four players from the�he championship squad didn't receive an i8 as one of them has moved to Chelsea while the three others were�only briefly used as substitutes.
The cars were all specced identically with only the different alloy wheels distinguishing one from another.i am surprised no one considered spurs to be in top 4
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my take is arsenal, man city, chelsea and spurs in no particular order
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Quite naturally, at the start of the season; most pundits prediction�righty or wrongly is based on perceived strength of playing squad or at least the improvement on paper. In this aspect, the Manchester clubs obviously stand out and in fact Danny Murphy feels it will be a 3 horse race with Chelsea for the title. Arsenal, Pool and Spurs fighting for the 4th spot due to less strengthening in his opinion.�Leicester has proven�this wrong last season though.�
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http://www.express.c...fer-News-Gossip
Very interesting interview from Sean Dyche, Burnley manager.
He is of the opinion that British managers are not given due credit for what they have done for the game.
To a certain extend, I agree with him. The younger Britiish managers I feel are doing well and should be given a chance a bigger clubs.
That said, Woy is still a dinosaur.
Submitting a �6M for McNair and Love.
Who is Love huh?
Oh ya, bye bye Benteke. Hope he will fly high with the Eagles.
Edited by Osprey23, 10 August 2016 - 07:15 PM.
More on Dahoud's situation.Reports suggesting Dahoud has a �10m release clause..which only becomes active in at the end of next season.
I don't think Klopp will let this opportunity slips
http://sportwitness....pool-right-now/
If Klopp is really to throw �30m at him, good chance BMG might sell.
Separately, Galatasaray sporting director: �We are no longer pursuing Lucas Leiva, we will continue efforts to sign an alternative instead.�
Looks like Lucas will be staying on for another season. No problem with that for me. A good servant and model professional.
Edited by Osprey23, 10 August 2016 - 07:38 PM.
Wtf. No backbone one ah. Lol.What a joke
Prob disappointed spurs no splash out. Missed out on the mitshibishi batsuani to chelsee. N prob why no go try for the mitrihatrick. The armenian playmaker. N also the marseille winger who passed his medical and yet to join spurs as fees stalled.
Prob the red one. The blue one hor have a manager which has good cv but i tink may be like a fish out of water.Which one? Blue or Red?
Maybe my own personal dislike of this team bah.
Hmm why the chief scout want to take responsibility or be disappointed over lack of transfer activities? His job is to find and recommend targets. Whether the manager or club decide to follow up is not of his concern lehSpurs chief scout paul mitchel resigns.
Prob disappointed spurs no splash out. Missed out on the mitshibishi batsuani to chelsee. N prob why no go try for the mitrihatrick. The armenian playmaker. N also the marseille winger who passed his medical and yet to join spurs as fees stalled.
Edited by Osprey23, 10 August 2016 - 08:57 PM.
Hearsay Mitchel joining the FoxSpurs chief scout paul mitchel resigns.
Prob disappointed spurs no splash out. Missed out on the mitshibishi batsuani to chelsee. N prob why no go try for the mitrihatrick. The armenian playmaker. N also the marseille winger who passed his medical and yet to join spurs as fees stalled.
Prob the red one. The blue one hor have a manager which has good cv but i tink may be like a fish out of water.
Maybe my own personal dislike of this team bah.
Dahoud's agent:"It has been agreed that he will stay for another season"
Spurs chief scout paul mitchel resigns.
Prob disappointed spurs no splash out. Missed out on the mitshibishi batsuani to chelsee. N prob why no go try for the mitrihatrick. The armenian playmaker. N also the marseille winger who passed his medical and yet to join spurs as fees stalled.
Whilst I don't have proof on this, can't help speculating that perhaps it's Daniel Levy's well known tight fisted approach which clashes with what Mitchel recommended and hence no deals able to be concluded and so he got frustrated n decide to leave? Possible?
Hearsay Mitchel joining the Fox
He might well be poached. Foxes lost Steve Welsh to Everton.
Guardian has a report on Mitchel leaving. Apparently Levy having another advisor interfering with his job.
https://www.theguard...quits-nightmare
http://sportwitness....er-last-minute/
If he carries on to meddle with the signings, Poch will be gone next.
Definitely a short term upgrade over Stones.
Football Economy:
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RM recouped Beckam's transfer fees through merchandise in his maiden season and that of Ronaldo in 2 to 3 seasons.
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What about Pogba. He sold just under 700,000 jerseys in Juves. Given the huge PR generated through the protracted transfer (his Twitter & Instagram following increased by 25% since he was linked with MU), a good 7 figure sales should be easily achieved.
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Experts at Deloitte say as long as he lives up his billing then:
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An increase in kit sales, an increase in the image rights of the player, and potentially an added value on a future transfer could see United ending up turning a profit from football's most expensive player.
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Unless he fails miserably,� he who laughs last laughs best. Then it will be not just we can (pay 100 mil) also we know........
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Edited by Ngseeming, 11 August 2016 - 09:56 AM.
wth... no starting�place even for David Silva?
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Silva,�Yaya, Nasri, Mangala, Navas, Sane, Kolarov on the bench... possibly the strongest bench in EPL
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wth... no starting�place even for David Silva?
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Silva,�Yaya, Nasri, Mangala, Navas, Sane, Kolarov on the bench... possibly the strongest bench in EPL
sterling over silva??? they must b crazy.
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And how about this news??
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http://www.mycarforu...-a-bmw-i8-each/
According to Carscoops, the�club's chairman Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha�is said to have forked out almost S$2.70 million to buy 19 BMW i8s. Not that the chairman's wallet would hurt, as he is worth more than S$4 billion. Four players from the�he championship squad didn't receive an i8 as one of them has moved to Chelsea while the three others were�only briefly used as substitutes.
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Liverpool also get leh...
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Football Economy:
RM recouped Beckam's transfer fees through merchandise in his maiden season and that of Ronaldo in 2 to 3 seasons.
What about Pogba. He sold just under 700,000 jerseys in Juves. Given the huge PR generated through the protracted transfer (his Twitter & Instagram following increased by 25% since he was linked with MU), a good 7 figure sales should be easily achieved.
Experts at Deloitte say as long as he lives up his billing then:
An increase in kit sales, an increase in the image rights of the player, and potentially an added value on a future transfer could see United ending up turning a profit from football's most expensive player.
Unless he fails miserably, he who laughs last laughs best. Then it will be not just we can (pay 100 mil) also we know........
Stand corrected but I have read somewhere before that in that mega shirt deals with Adidas, Man Utd are not getting any �� from the shirt sales.
Usually the profits are split but because of the amount of the up front sponsorship, Adidas taking all.
sterling over silva??? they must b crazy.
They are overloaded with wingers. Sterling will have to fight very hard for his spot. I believe San� is better than him already.
This Guardian reports�Mahrez not leaving�Leicester this window.�
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My�feel is that despite Leicester's obvious refusal to not let him leave, I believe there's also not really a strong interest in him from other clubs despite his obvious talent and being the POTY as well. Most clubs this window looking for CB and CF, not so much wide players, my 2 cents.
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https://www.theguard...leave-leicester
They are overloaded with wingers. Sterling will have to fight very hard for his spot. I believe San� is better than him already.
50m leh...�
Can't be wrong right?
Torres was 50m before.� 
Arsenal�s negotiations to sign Valencia defender Shkodran Mustafi are ongoing. [Sky Sports]
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reports says he just followed xhaka and like his photo.............�
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will be happy if he comes...
50m leh...
Can't be wrong right?
Torres was 50m before.
His price inflated due to his nationality.
if he is non-English, his fee probably will be �25m max
reports says he just followed xhaka and like his photo.............
will be happy if he comes...
Hope you guys can get him too... But only next week
More predictions, this time from Mirror reporters.
They tallied the votes up and concluded......
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Premier League top four (in order):
Manchester United (1st), Manchester City (2nd), Chelsea (3rd), Arsenal (4th).
Relegated: Swansea, Burnley, Hull.
FA Cup: Liverpool.
League Cup: Manchester United
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Guardian's team of 4 writer predicted"
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1. MU
2. MC
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4. Chelski
5. Arsenal
6. LFC
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Their 3rd placing should go to yet to be previewed Spur.
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Todate the Bookies' picks are
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1. MC
2. MU
3. Chelski
4. Arse
5. Spur & Pool.
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They got it terribly wrong last season. Hope they mix up the top 2 this time.
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But everyone agrees on No. 20 - Hull.
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Spurs chief scout paul mitchel resigns.
Prob disappointed spurs no splash out. Missed out on the mitshibishi batsuani to chelsee. N prob why no go try for the mitrihatrick. The armenian playmaker. N also the marseille winger who passed his medical and yet to join spurs as fees stalled.
Prob the red one. The blue one hor have a manager which has good cv but i tink may be like a fish out of water.
Maybe my own personal dislike of this team bah.
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As I suspected, it's Spurs approach to transfers that has gotten Mitchell frustrated so looks like I'm not the only one who doesn't like tight fisted owners, Mgrs though this one looks like it's Levy who is the chairman.
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Frankly with a top end wage of only 80k per week, I fear Spurs may lose their best players in the near future. Rightly or wrongly, football wages and fees have gone up tremendously and if you want to compete at the top, you have to fork out unfortunately.
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But who knows, another Leicester may prove this theory wrong which I don't mind but doubt it.
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http://www.standard....r-a3316506.html
Wah, this scout is pretty high profile
Hope you guys can get him too... But only next week
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even if he comes in this week.. don't think he will go straight into the team...
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looking at chambers and holding partnership
Guardian's team of 4 writer predicted"
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They got it terribly wrong last season. Hope they mix up the top 2 this time.
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But everyone agrees on No. 20 - Hull.
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Then how much is the odds of Hull winning the title?�
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Might be good gamble to buy a bit on it... Last year Leicester made how many people very rich??
reports says he just followed xhaka and like his photo.............
will be happy if he comes...
Talks of Mahrez hot up yesterday.
Mainly reports from France. Mahrez is keen to move but as reported widely in the English press, Leicester are holding firm on their position - Not for sale.
Then how much is the odds of Hull winning the title?
Might be good gamble to buy a bit on it... Last year Leicester made how many people very rich??
If you have some spare money, maybe can try lol.
Hull City attracting interest from the Chinese. However, even if they really buy over, little time left in the market for them to strengthen imo
This Guardian reports�Mahrez not leaving�Leicester this window.�
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My�feel is that despite Leicester's obvious refusal to not let him leave, I believe there's also not really a strong interest in him from other clubs despite his obvious talent and being the POTY as well. Most clubs this window looking for CB and CF, not so much wide players, my 2 cents.
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Mahrez and Vardy thrive on counter attacking play
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and Arsenal play possession football.
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It doesn't make sense for either of them to join Arsenal.
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Talks of Mahrez hot up yesterday.
Mainly reports from France. Mahrez is keen to move but as reported widely in the English press, Leicester are holding firm on their position - Not for sale.
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i presume we get mayhrez to let walcott play as striker.......if not, i don't see why we getting him unless Wenger intend to turn him into a striker
i presume we get mayhrez to let walcott play as striker.......if not, i don't see why we getting him unless Wenger intend to turn him into a striker
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Maybe just like Henry.
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Liverpool are set to secure the services of Juanma from Barcelona, according to reports from�the Liverpool Echo
Liverpool have splashed a lot of cash to secure the services of the likes of Sadio Mane, Georginio Wijnaldum, Loris Karius and Ragner Klavan among others and the Reds will now most certainly be looking to mount a challenge for a place in the Championship during the upcoming campaign.
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While the aforementioned players are all established names, manager Jurgen Klopp is a manager who is always on the lookout to sign promising youngsters as well and it can now be revealed that the German boss is set to make a swoop for 19-year-old Juanma.
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Juanma is a graduate of the famed La Masia academy of Barcelona and he had joined Liverpool on trial last month for around 10 days.
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The left back most certainly seems to have impressed the Liverpool staff during the trial and now revelations can be made that the Reds are set to sign him on a permanent deal, according to reports from the Liverpool Echo.
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Liverpool have signed the likes of Pedro Chirivella and Madger Gomes from Barcelona previously and the left-back will surely be helped by the presence of his Spanish compatriots at Anfield.
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Under-23 manager Michael Beale had spoken about Juanma in July and had praised the teenager�s ability. He had said,��Juanma is a boy who�s come in to spend the week with us with a view to maybe seeing more of him. He�s only had a couple of days training with us, speaks very little English but you can see a very good player.
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�He was at Barcelona so we�ll have a look and see how we go with him. He played with Madger Gomes and Pedro Chirivella with Spain so we�re quite familiar with him.
�He�s very versatile and can play in different positions because technically he�s very good. I quite like him, he reminds he a little bit of someone like a Pablo Zabaleta-type player, a nice player.�
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Mahrez and Vardy thrive on counter attacking play
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and Arsenal play possession football.
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It doesn't make sense for either of them to join Arsenal.
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U have a point but sometimes it's good to have a different variation and it's a fact�Wenger was keen on Vardy which would have been the harder of the 2 to assimilate whereas Mahrez I believe is much easier to bed in but Arsenal have an abundance of wide players like Sanchez, Ox, Walcott and even Ramsey can play there so don't really see him there esp as they have other pressing needs.
Juanma boleh
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Unfortunately he goes to the U 23 team and not "ready" for the first team.
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Edited by cashcow, 11 August 2016 - 03:59 PM.
Finally...
Liverpool signed a LB
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Is he of first team caliber? Seems like more of a potential future LB?
Then how much is the odds of Hull winning the title?�
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Might be good gamble to buy a bit on it... Last year Leicester made how many people very rich??
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Bookies are much more kiasu this time, all the relegation favourites are at 1,500:1.
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No more 5 or 6,000:1
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so all the smoke screen gone, comes the real target.
Another window of hard work by the agent coming to nought.
Is he of first team caliber? Seems like more of a potential future LB?
Definitely not there yet. Meant more to be a joke as many are looking forward to a new LB but bro James posted earlier so killed the suspense ;)
Let's wait for a while more to let Klopp free up more wages. I still believe a LB is on the card.
Starsport�understand�Liverpool�have snapped up the ex-Tottenham�and�Newcastle�centre-back, who was released byMiddlesborough�in May.
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He will focus on assessing players in Spain and Portugal - utilising knowledge gained during his brief spell at Real Madrid.
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The La Liga giants signed Woodgate from Newcastle for �13.4m in August 2004, much to the dismay of Toon supporters.
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His first task may be to continue the search for a new left-back to rival Alberto Moreno, who Kop legend John Aldridge recently described as a 'big worry.'
U have a point but sometimes it's good to have a different variation and it's a fact�Wenger was keen on Vardy which would have been the harder of the 2 to assimilate whereas Mahrez I believe is much easier to bed in but Arsenal have an abundance of wide players like Sanchez, Ox, Walcott and even Ramsey can play there so don't really see him there esp as they have other pressing needs.
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Ah Seng should try buying Mata instead of Mahrez... especially now Mata wants out of Man Utd
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Starsport�understand�Liverpool�have snapped up the ex-Tottenham�and�Newcastle�centre-back, who was released byMiddlesborough�in May.
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He will focus on assessing players in Spain and Portugal - utilising knowledge gained during his brief spell at Real Madrid.
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The La Liga giants signed Woodgate from Newcastle for �13.4m in August 2004, much to the dismay of Toon supporters.
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His first task may be to continue the search for a new left-back to rival Alberto Moreno, who Kop legend John Aldridge recently described as a 'big worry.'
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woooh... did they register him as scout/player
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can be an emergency center back in time of injury crisis
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still only 36 yo
Definitely not there yet. Meant more to be a joke as many are looking forward to a new LB but bro James posted earlier so killed the suspense ;)
Let's wait for a while more to let Klopp free up more wages. I still believe a LB is on the card.
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Haha Ok thks!! That's what I thought as well, surely an experienced LB can be found although no harm getting a potential one for future as well. Actually I thought that Pool can try for Ben Davies of Spurs. Played quite ok in the Euros and quite good going forward IMO.
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Jamie Carragher's take on the Pool squad n no prizes for guessing he pointed out LB as well which we all know.
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http://www.skysports...-choice-striker
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I do agree with his assessment that not having a first choice striker can be a good thing and keeps the forwards on their toes ![[thumbsup]](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/blogger_img_proxy/AEn0k_uqWpHg62dmj42o8nSMJ7IKuapm30tZqmwAl_nqPD3BoN1kLCDPDvzsbZ6Dmxdwau0sqnVINl3rS1og-49EAHS-BfSm1brOrezm6ENDZclt_wizXVz6ZpEllwzufhu6JOQ3EfQ6-DQT=s0-d)
Ah Seng should try buying Mata instead of Mahrez... especially now Mata wants out of Man Utd
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IMO, no need Mata as well cos they have Ozil as play maker and so too Carzola to pull the strings.
As I suspected, it's Spurs approach to transfers that has gotten Mitchell frustrated so looks like I'm not the only one who doesn't like tight fisted owners, Mgrs though this one looks like it's Levy who is the chairman.
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Frankly with a top end wage of only 80k per week, I fear Spurs may lose their best players in the near future. Rightly or wrongly, football wages and fees have gone up tremendously and if you want to compete at the top, you have to fork out unfortunately.
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But who knows, another Leicester may prove this theory wrong which I don't mind but doubt it.
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To be frank, although the players are already ridiclously paid, this kind of wages ceiling will get you nowhere near enough to compete for the top players...
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If Spurs is intent on challenging for the trophy next season, they need to do a reassessment of their wages ceiling....
Official. Sunderland are cleaning Man Utd off their deadwoods.
Mata next?
To be frank, although the players are already ridiclously paid, this kind of wages ceiling will get you nowhere near enough to compete for the top players...
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If Spurs is intent on challenging for the trophy next season, they need to do a reassessment of their wages ceiling....
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That's exactly my point. Don't get me wrong, I'm not for paying big wages but that's the way it is now and with TV money in abundance, you have no choice but to follow or at least be close to the top teams to challenge them.
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Poch and Spurs worked hard to finish 3rd (almost 2nd) last season so it will be a waste to see this going down the drain if they are not careful. Strong English core with a good coach playing the modern pressing game with players who seem to adjust to his methods�are their plus points.
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Although it's only a newspaper report, can't help feel there's some truth to this wages claim�of Spurs.�
Adnan Januzaj is close to joining Sunderland on a season-long loan. [Telegraph]
Official. Sunderland are cleaning Man Utd off their deadwoods.
Mata next?
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Sunderland have been doing that in recent year.
Remember Brown and o'Shea?
If you have some spare money, maybe can try lol.
Hull City attracting interest from the Chinese. However, even if they really buy over, little time left in the market for them to strengthen imo
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Don't stress over the 5 pounds, but potential upside wah... 
Sunderland have been doing that in recent year.
Remember Brown and o'Shea?
True that. With the appointment of the Chosen One, the relationship is now on a higher level
Bookies are much more kiasu this time, all the relegation favourites are at 1,500:1.
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Valencia will move for Mangala as replacement
The don't need a defender , they NEED a world class strikerArsenal are moving towards a breakthrough in negotiations to sign Shkodran Mustafi from Valencia. (The Times)
Valencia will move for Mangala as replacement
The don't need a defender , they NEED a world class striker
Every team needs a world class striker, except prolly Barca, RM and Munich
Seriously it got so bad today as theres aimt much world class strikers.
old classis number 9 like�Van Nistelrooy very hard to come by liao.
now system all change ,
manager who like procession play alway play a false no 9 who can play as attacking midfielder also.
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Yeah. Classic goal poachers.old classis number 9 like Van Nistelrooy very hard to come by liao.
now system all change ,
manager who like procession play alway play a false no 9 who can play as attacking midfielder also.
or team that rely on counter need their striker to def from m.field like.
Romario. Batistuta. Lineker. Shearer. Klinsmann. Bebeto. Rush.
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Thought the fatty is the Barcelona Ronaldo. Won't call the real one fat. If he is, then I obese Liao.
i would think of w.r.
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West Brom join race to sign Christian Benteke from Liverpool
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He walks into any team first 11. Not just RM.My favourite also the fat real Madrid Ronaldo. Not many fatty can walk into RM starting 11. You need to be really special.
Even the Brazilian national team
Ronaldo played for RM before cr7 didThought the fatty is the Barcelona Ronaldo. Won't call the real one fat. If he is, then I obese Liao.
He walks into any team first 11. Not just RM.
Even the Brazilian national team
Ronaldo played for RM before cr7 did
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I think they are talking about Ronaldino nick name "Buck Tooth". He played for Barca.
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Fat Ronaldo played for RM ....
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I think they are talking about Ronaldino nick name "Buck Tooth". He played for Barca.
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Fat Ronaldo played for RM ....
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personally i feel when fat ronaldo and buck tooth in their peak days are better then cr7 in his peak
I think they are talking about Ronaldino nick name "Buck Tooth". He played for Barca.
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I think they are talking about Ronaldino nick name "Buck Tooth". He played for Barca.
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Fat Ronaldo played for RM ....
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personally i feel when fat ronaldo and buck tooth in their peak days are better then cr7 in his peak
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ronaldinho had crazy skills and passes
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ronaldo is a one man scoring machine
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cr7 is a great player but not a legend like the above. His goals per game only peaked after joining la liga. Fat ronaldo as a 19 yr old scored 34 goals in 37 app in his first season with barca. That was sheer talent with not much training or experience in senior top flight games
Fat Ron played for Baca�
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i read some report last time, they over develop his leg muscle when he was young,�
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resulting in alot of inj when he reach around 30 , his tendon cannot cope or joint cannot cope. something like that.
There were rumors of Barca over developing his quads. He used to be a skinny legs teenageri read some report last time, they over develop his leg muscle when he was young,
resulting in alot of inj when he reach around 30 , his tendon cannot cope or joint cannot cope. something like that.
Combined with his style of explosive pace and sudden change of directions plus the only way to stop him was to foul him
Eventually his knee gave way. Started at age 23, not 30
OK. The barca one is thin but the Real one is fat!ronaldo played for both teams
i read some report last time, they over develop his leg muscle when he was young,�
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resulting in alot of inj when he reach around 30 , his tendon cannot cope or joint cannot cope. something like that.
Yeah, towards his later part of fat ronaldo's fb career often got pain-killer and other injections to get him match fit.
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Like flogging a race horse, until something gives.
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Sad but that's the ugly greed of football.
OK. The barca one is thin but the Real one is fat!
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Yes bro. Now I guess I waiting for Palace to complete the sale of Bolasie.think abit too late... heard he's gone to CP liao.
WBA probably wont have the financial powers to spend on Benteke..
anyway, let's wait for further developments..
Benteke wants the Palace move as well.
I only know Pool are watching him. Not sure if they have indeed made a move. This is usually quite a usual ploy by the seller to gain negotiation position
This deal might have impact on Mustafi to Arsenal as Velencia unlikely to let both of them leave.
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Hmm, not sure if Klopp is hinting at anything
His positioning.. Sublime.. And he is fitter than DS.. Looks like Klopp is loaning DS to the hospital FC for the season. Damn itMakes scoring look easy
Klopp: Benteke, Balotelli & Ings are good strikers. They've improved, but six strikers is too comfortable. We'll wait (& see) what happens.
Hmm, not sure if Klopp is hinting at anything
Luckily he clarified.
http://www.liverpool...t-sale-11743077
So I guess Klopp will be keeping Sturridge, Origi, Ings and Firmino as striker
Don't mind having Hart at the KOP Instead of the Pigeon migHart is expected to be axed for the season opener.
http://www.express.c...-Premier-League
If Hart's performance at Euro 2016 was parameter, then even Harry Redknapp's granny could perform better, (Harry's famous quote not mine ho)
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Don't mind having Hart at the KOP Instead of the Pigeon mig
Karius will be No.1
If Hart's performance at Euro 2016 was parameter, then even Harry Redknapp's granny could perform better, (Harry's famous quote not mine ho)
Well some clubs are still seeing value. A �32m bid incoming...
Luckily he clarified.
http://www.liverpool...t-sale-11743077
So I guess Klopp will be keeping Sturridge, Origi, Ings and Firmino as striker
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I would be very surprise if Klopp decided that Ings is a surplus. Prior to his injury he was in very good form. And during his rehab, he showed good attitude and desire to recover and fight for his place. And he played well during the pre-season too.�
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I would be very surprise if Klopp decided that Ings is a surplus. Prior to his injury he was in very good form. And during his rehab, he showed good attitude and desire to recover and fight for his place. And he played well during the pre-season too.
Ings has the good old striker kind of traits, similar to old school striker like Alan Shearer. Hope he can flourish under Klopp's guidance.
Agree. I feel that he offers something different from the rest of the strikers.
To get his chance, he might have to accept playing wide though. Expecting Firmino and Origi to lead the line. Sturridge's fitness remains a concern
Good to have but not a must... Cant really depend on Sturridge .
Milan have initiated contacts for Mangala. Milan are willing to offer �18m while City won't sell him for less than �30m.
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Christian Benteke should be off once this move is completed.
If we are talking about No.9, I can think of some more.
My favourite is still Ronaldo. Most complete No. 9 imo. Strength, speed, skill, technique.
May I also add Torres? He was world class with Liverpool.
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Looks like it is Bravo to replace Hart
Finally Hart have some competition.Manchester City have agreed personal terms with Barcelona goalkeeper Claudio Bravo. (SPORT)
Looks like it is Bravo to replace Hart
It's good for England team in a Long run actually:)
Finally Hart have some competition.
It's good for England team in a Long run actually:)
Don't think so. If Bravo is in, fully expect Hart to leave.
In other news, Palace is going to splash the cash from the sale of Bolasie on Benteke. They are also interested in signing Berahino and Young, according to Mirror
http://www.mirror.co...-target-8632430
Manchester City have agreed personal terms with Barcelona goalkeeper Claudio Bravo. (SPORT)
Looks like it is Bravo to replace Hart
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Huh? Target can change so drastically arrh? from Ter Stegen suddenly become Barca wants to sell Bravo?
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Expecting news on Benteke soon
Huh? Target can change so drastically arrh? from Ter Stegen suddenly become Barca wants to sell Bravo?
This just reminds me that one season Suarez was being targeted by RM, but next season he went to Barca...
Frankly, it all started with rumour of Pep not rating Hart. Think I shared before. As for who he wants as No1, I heard is Ter Stegen but there is also rumour of Bravo.
Just have to wait and see. Need Hart to move first.
This is enough to send 90% of Pool fan base into meltdown
True to form and policy, Mustafi's transfer hit snag as Arsenal refused to meet Valancia's valuation of 25 mil, 5 more than their offer price.
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True to form and policy, Mustafi's transfer hit snag as Arsenal refused to meet Valancia's valuation of 25 mil, 5 more than their offer price.
Maybe another defeat will change their mind?
Over �5m is really stupid if true
Not saying Arsenal is wrong to stick to their valuation but it really has to be applied on a case by case. If he is going to improve the team as the starter, overpaying by �5m is really not much.
Of course if he is just for a back up, then maybe can save the funds for other more crucial position.
Even FSG has learnt. We overpaid so many players from Southampton just because the managers want them in as starters
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Jurgen Klopp will persevere with Alberto Moreno rather than dip into the transfer market. (Paul Joyce)
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True to form and policy, Mustafi's transfer hit snag as Arsenal refused to meet Valancia's valuation of 25 mil, 5 more than their offer price.
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Seriously 25m is a steal man..
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Don't forget Stones is worth 50m, i don't think Mustafi don't worth half the price lo.
Even FSG has learnt. We overpaid so many players from Southampton just because the managers want them in as starters
In this current market, we have no choice, as long you are in premier league and top teams, ppl will squeeze u dry..
Jurgen Klopp will persevere with Alberto Moreno rather than dip into the transfer market. (Paul Joyce)
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True to form and policy, Mustafi's transfer hit snag as Arsenal refused to meet Valancia's valuation of 25 mil, 5 more than their offer price.
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IMO, 25mil for a current German International, 24 years old seems a fair price in this current market.
Chelsea also looking for CB and was quoted in excess of 40mil for Koulibaly so I can see them scooping in on Mustafi if Arsenal hesitate further, don't say I never warn Wenger
25m will be reasonable..... there were reports he is in london...... all the time i suspect is meet chelsea not arsenal......... lol
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if is 25m i really hope he buys.... i don't see how he will reject because of 5m euros
Manu favourites to land Gabigol !!�
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really neutrals also can see the position is a real issue.
if no LB comes in, I really wont be surprised to see Milner start more often than Moreno when fit.
Although slower, Milner can nevertheless provide width, cross and shoot so much better than Moreno... so there is offensive contributions. With coutinho on the left wing, the LB is often naked and vulnerable to attacks, Milner have more more defensive sense than Moreno...
Actually I am ok with the first bit that he chooses to perservere with Moreno. Because he works with him on a daily basis. So I cannot say I know Moreno as a player better than Klopp does. As for the second bit, about not dipping into the market, I tends to disagree. No matter what, we probably need a proper backup.
If really want to use Milner, he is more suited to back up for Clyne actually as he is right footed. Notice a couple of time vs Barcelona, he would cut in to bring the ball to his right foot before delivering a cross. Compared to a natural left footer who can whip in the cross straightaway, the attacking movement will be faster.
On the defensive sense, I do agree Milner is slight better due to his experience.
In this current market, we have no choice, as long you are in premier league and top teams, ppl will squeeze u dry..
Worse if you see buying from another PL club. Dry liao still squeeze some more
Manu favourites to land Gabigol !!
Smelling agent at work. Last week Leicester, this week Man Utd.
wah Chelsea is dumping Fabregas, putting him up for sale
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or will Liverpool bid for him? after all it lacks a good CM organizer after Gerrard left
"Poor" Fabregas, apparently he was offered to Juve, PSG and RM.
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Meanwhile, Ah Seng is playing his waiting game with Mustafi whose deal is getting more complicated as Valencia apparently does not want to lose both Mustafi and Abdennour, who may be heading to Everton but was also offered to Arsenal.
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"Poor" Fabregas, apparently he was offered to Juve, PSG and RM.
Meanwhile, Ah Seng is playing his waiting game with Mustafi whose deal is getting more complicated as Valencia apparently does not want to lose both Mustafi and Abdennour, who may be heading to Everton but was also offered to Arsenal.
Ah Seng has his Plan C in the much cheaper Johnny Evans. But this deal would infuriate rather than appease gunner supporters for more reasons than financial one..
Ya, posted before that Everton's interest in Abdennour has impact on Arsenal's pursuit of Mustafi. Valencia are more keen to let go of Abdennour and see Mustafi as an integral part to their team.
What this mean is that Arsenal likely have to pay through the nose for Mustafi by given Valencia an offer they can't refuse.
I wonder if he would try a Plan D, by going for Sakho. Remember early last season when Sakho wasn't given a look in by BR? Then out of the blue Sakho was given a new contract while not playing? Arsenal was pushing for him and forced Liverpool's hands to tie him down.
But if they really want to try, need to be fast. Klopp unlikely to entertain any transfer out late in the window
I remembered the reason that RM did not move for Ronaldinho was he was too ugly for a Galactico.
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"Poor" Fabregas, apparently he was offered to Juve, PSG and RM.
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so guess Juventus, PSG or stay in England are the options for him... or he can still go back Spain and join Valencia or At Madrid?
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I remembered the reason that RM did not move for Ronaldinho was he was too ugly for a Galactico.
Ah Seng might think that Sakho's playing style is too awkward for his gunners?
Hmm, if he does, why bother to try last summer?
This is not reported but told to be by a credible source.
Personally, I certainly hope Wenger just go for Plan C. Still rate Sakho
wah Chelsea is dumping Fabregas, putting him up for sale
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just realised Everton has dumped Tony Hibbert
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this guy has been with Everton for 2 decades and they dumped him just like that.... just like how Newcastle dumped long serving Steven Taylor last season
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guess the only one-club man left in EPL is John Terry
On the way to Rennes on loan.
Zinedine Zidane has decided that midfielder Martin Odegaard will go on loan to Rennes for the 2016/17 campaign
2 weeks left for
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Chelsea to get rid of Fabregas
Liverpool to get rid of Balotelli
Man Utd to get rid of Mata
Arsenal to get rid of... nay they are short of players now
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Chelsea to get rid of Fabregas
Liverpool to get rid of Balotelli
Man Utd to get rid of Mata & BS
Arsenal to get rid of... nay they are short of players now Walcott & Ox
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They doesn't get the idea isn't it? �27m plus �3m rejected. They returned with �23m plus �7m?
Edited: Apparebtly WBA willing to match Liverpool's valuation but Benteke not keen to join. Maybe that's why Palace low-balled.
Edited by Osprey23, 16 August 2016 - 06:02 PM.
It's OK. Maybe one or two more losses, Palace with come back with a �40m bidCrystal palace have bid rejected by Liverpool for Christian Benteke £23m guaranteed. £7m in add ons
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They doesn't get the idea isn't it? £27m plus £3m rejected. They returned with £23m plus £7m?
Edited: Apparebtly WBA willing to match Liverpool's valuation but Benteke not keen to join. Maybe that's why Palace low-balled.
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If Fabregas wants to leave this window, he will go
Unless Chelsea get an irresistible offer for Fabregas, I don't think he will go.
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Conte clarified the Fabregas situation later but maybe he's just trying to be diplomatic. I still don't think he will go .
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Although Mustafi remains priority and he is keen to join, Arsenal might be forced to consider cheaper alternatives such as Omer Toprak & Simon Kjaer
Rumours that Ballotelli ask to join Italian club Sassuolo may not be concluded.
Goal.com
Really hope his move to Seria A can conclude soon. Any club will do.
Gabigol is very competitive and ambitious but discovered Inter Milan undergoes a transition after being sold to Suning group. In addition, Gabigol was told that Inter Milan do not have a very competitive team and power to fight for titles now.
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This might explains why the agent is working hard again.
Valencia needs to recoup �10m to meet FFP. Insisting on �30m on Mustafi as he is not one who Valencia are keen to sell. Hence the hard stance.
So if Valencia managed to off load Abdennour for more than �10m, they will entertain any bid for Mustafi.
Arsenal really have to move fast if they want the player.
David Ornstein of BBC (very reliable) is saying that Arsenal is yet to agree fee with Valencia over Mustafi because they are holding funds back for a possible striker signing.
Although Mustafi remains priority and he is keen to join, Arsenal might be forced to consider cheaper alternatives such as Omer Toprak & Simon Kjaer
Stupid... we will end up with nothing...
Which is not a bad thing !Stupid... we will end up with nothing...
After all the bank Acc will be 30m more :)
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Valencia needs to recoup �10m to meet FFP. Insisting on �30m on Mustafi as he is not one who Valencia are keen to sell. Hence the hard stance.
So if Valencia managed to off load Abdennour for more than �10m, they will entertain any bid for Mustafi.
Arsenal really have to move fast if they want the player.
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Dunno how true is this but this price is fair. Medel is a proper baddie we need in midfield
Let the scramble begins
Gary Medel is Klopp's 'greatest desire' & Liverpool have bid over �8.7M for the defensive midfielder.
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Dunno how true is this but this price is fair. Medel is a proper baddie we need in midfield
Telegraph reported that the Reds 'have bid turn down' in race for Gary Medel.
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Can see Pool very pissed. Leaking all these stupid add on clauses to the papers
http://www.express.c...lan-Pardew-News
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Pay 2.5m for getting TOP 4?Liverpool rejected Crystal Palace's latest bid for Benteke because one of the clauses was they would pay £2.5m if they got top four. (Paul Joyce)
LOL
Can see Pool very pissed. Leaking all these stupid add on clauses to the papers
http://www.express.c...lan-Pardew-News
Haha.
Might as well say pay double the price if they are EPL champion:)
Liverpool rejected Crystal Palace's latest bid for Benteke because one of the clauses was they would pay �2.5m if they got top four. (Paul Joyce)
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Can see Pool very pissed. Leaking all these stupid add on clauses to the papers
http://www.express.c...lan-Pardew-News
The worry about this from Pool's point of view is that Palace may decide to go for Remy now from what I read cos Pardew has managed Remy before n he is much cheaper. Pool under FSG has stood firm on sales most times n got away the better eg Sterling but I'm not too sure if it will always work. My guess is they will let him go for a slightly better price n more achievable add on clauses but don't think they can get the full 32.5mil even with add ons, my 2 cents.
The worry about this from Pool's point of view is that Palace may decide to go for Remy now from what I read cos Pardew has managed Remy before n he is much cheaper. Pool under FSG has stood firm on sales most times n got away the better eg Sterling but I'm not too sure if it will always work. My guess is they will let him go for a slightly better price n more achievable add on clauses but don't think they can get the full 32.5mil even with add ons, my 2 cents.
Agree bro. I seriously don't think Pool are looking to recoup every cents spent. I would believe a �25m with �3m of realistic addons would clinch the deal.
Pool already has an offer on the table from WBA that matched Pool's asking. They won't back down until Palace comes up with a reasonable offer. If Palace decide to walk, so be it and Benteke will have no choice but to accept a move to WBA if he still wants to play football this season.
Pay 2.5m for getting TOP 4?
Haha.
Might as well say pay double the price if they are EPL champion:)
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I also think he is coming to Liverpool, but to join Everton FC
Frankly, unless one of the senior CBs is leaving, I do not think there is any truth in this
Come on...where is the LB that pool needs. Surely not another CB.
I think Mustafi can play at LB. If not mistaken, thought I remember him playing at FB for Germany in the Euros though he is recognised as a CB.
Hehe, I give up liao. Will just trust Klopp on his assessment. If he think Moreno and Milner are good enough to last us this season. I will just back his decision.Come on...where is the LB that pool needs. Surely not another CB.
Mustafi I seriously think is Valencia using us to force Arsenal to act.
Also, Spanish paper Cadena reported Liverpool offered �10m+Alberto for Mustafi which was rejected, they want closer to their �25m valuation.
Who in the right mind will think that Luis Alberto is worth �15m??
Edited by Osprey23, 17 August 2016 - 10:43 PM.
Not sure how much is the release clause though
According to SER Deportivos Valencia (a radio station), Valencia are in negotiations with Liverpool over a move for Shkodran Mustafi. The biggest plus point for Valencia to deal with Liverpool is that Luis Alberto could be included in the deal going the other way.
Frankly, unless one of the senior CBs is leaving, I do not think there is any truth in this
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Forgot where I had read a report on an interview with�Shkodran Mustafi that he was actually interested of coming to Liverpool.
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It was the club that will decide to release him if any clubs offer is too good to reject. If a player wishes to come to Pool knowing that Pool will not feature in UCL, he is
Forgot where I had read a report on an interview with Shkodran Mustafi that he was actually interested of coming to Liverpool.
It was the club that will decide to release him if any clubs offer is too good to reject. If a player wishes to come to Pool knowing that Pool will not feature in UCL, he is
James Pearce has rubbished both links to Medel and Mustafi.
Still believe Arsenal will be his most likely destination if he is to come to England
Hehe, I give up liao. Will just trust Klopp on his assessment. If he think Moreno and Milner are good enough to last us this season. I will just back his decision.
Mustafi I seriously think is Valencia using us to force Arsenal to act.
Also, Spanish paper Cadena reported Liverpool offered �10m+Alberto for Mustafi which was rejected, they want closer to their �25m valuation.
Who in the right mind will think that Luis Alberto is worth �15m??
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i firmly believe the non-actions of Klopp is highly due to the lack of available options (at right price) at the moment. It is clear as daylight Pool needs to reinforce this position.�
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Alberto needs to justify his place in the squad in the meantime when given the chance. I think Milner will be starting more games than him when fit at the moment, until Moreno clears his head (and that pony-tail)...�
i firmly believe the non-actions of Klopp is highly due to the lack of available options (at right price) at the moment. It is clear as daylight Pool needs to reinforce this position.
Alberto needs to justify his place in the squad in the meantime when given the chance. I think Milner will be starting more games than him when fit at the moment, until Moreno clears his head (and that pony-tail)...
I have a feeling Klopp has in mind what kind of LB he has in mind. It seems to me that he places more emphasis on the full backs offensive ability of defensive. If he wants a LB who is solid at defending, Hector is there for him to sign. Paying �20m is not beyond us but apparently we walked away.
Agree with you that maybe there isn't one who fits the profile and is available at the right price.
Klopp with the long term contract, seems to be more patient to wait for the right player. Dahoud is a good example.
I have a feeling Klopp has in mind what kind of LB he has in mind. It seems to me that he places more emphasis on the full backs offensive ability of defensive. If he wants a LB who is solid at defending, Hector is there for him to sign. Paying �20m is not beyond us but apparently we walked away.
Agree with you that maybe there isn't one who fits the profile and is available at the right price.
Klopp with the long term contract, seems to be more patient to wait for the right player. Dahoud is a good example.
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Reading some reports Pool in for Dutchman Bruno Martins Indi? He is versatile as can play CB and LB but I don't think he is particularly good at going forward if I remember when he played for the Dutch national team. This guy's a real defender so maybe just rumours.
Reading some reports Pool in for Dutchman Bruno Martins Indi? He is versatile as can play CB and LB but I don't think he is particularly good at going forward if I remember when he played for the Dutch national team. This guy's a real defender so maybe just rumours.
Read it. Same as Mustafi imo. If none of the senior CB moving on, I don't see why we need to sign him. Klavan already can play LB if need be.
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Mediawatch: Joe Hart is off to Liverpool
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Mediawatch: Joe Hart is off to Liverpool
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I also believe he is heading to Liverpool
To join Everton
That everton currebt goalie very good leh. Stopped spurs from winning leh.I also believe he is heading to Liverpool
To join Everton
Hart now becoming the next paul robinson.
England ruined him
That everton currebt goalie very good leh. Stopped spurs from winning leh.
Hart now becoming the next paul robinson.
England ruined him
Maarten Stekelenburg was the Dutch National team goalie for many years and I felt he was up amongst the top goalies at one stage but don't know how come he lost his way and�I was surprised he ended up at Fulham and then went on loan to other teams and now back to EPL with Everton.
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You can see he's quite a good goalie though maybe he's not consistent and makes errors now and then but then again which goalie doesn't? Ironically, he reminds me of Joe Hart!! Good shot stopper many a times but prone to the odd mistake.
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It seems Pep wants a sweeper keeper for City which Hart certainly is not. These days damn cham, FB expected to attack on top of defending, keeper expected to be a sweeper n good with his feet and distribution!!�
Maarten Stekelenburg was the Dutch National team goalie for many years and I felt he was up amongst the top goalies at one stage but don't know how come he lost his way and�I was surprised he ended up at Fulham and then went on loan to other teams and now back to EPL with Everton.
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You can see he's quite a good goalie though maybe he's not consistent and makes errors now and then but then again which goalie doesn't? Ironically, he reminds me of Joe Hart!! Good shot stopper many a times but prone to the odd mistake.
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It seems Pep wants a sweeper keeper for City which Hart certainly is not. These days damn cham, FB expected to attack on top of defending, keeper expected to be a sweeper n good with his feet and distribution!!�
Joe Hart is a good top GK under normal circumstances, but tends to fumble on big occasions, the recent Euro 2016 is a case in point. Man City probably is too big a shoe for him under Pep Guardiola.
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He is like Tim Howard who didn't do well in Man U, yet did great for Everton/USA.
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Maybe if he moves to Liverpool (I mean Everton), he will be annointed the "King"(not God) of Merseyside. �
Pool accepted Palace's bid of �27m + �5m.
Next out would be Luis Alberto. �5m to Valencia
Hope big Ben do well for CP except against Pool. So we have every chance to get that 5mil add on
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Yah, how about he fulfils the potential and hope that we harboured when Pool signed him, which is to score against all other teams (but not incl. Pool, since we didn't expect him to score against us when we signed him, right?), and win more points - especially against the top sides. Then can help Pool too�
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Talking of which, didn't CP and Pardew hate Ben when he came on, earned that penalty at the death and scored it to win all 3 points last season? Looks like Pool is not the only team who likes to sign players who scored against it�
salah boh?
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More bad news for Arsenal fans: The club have failed in the transfer market, again. This time, it's a �16m move for West Bromwich Albion defender Jonny Evans that has been knocked back, according to the Birmingham Mail, with an offer upwards of �20m needed to prise the former Manchester United man away from the Hawthorns.
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how come Liverpool din express interest in Fabio Coentrao?
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tio�frozen out by Marcelo at Real Madrid and spent his season on loan... but still a�good LB
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missed out Euro 2016 (and the trophy) though
salah boh?
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Johnny Evans also worths 20m pounds?
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Wait some more ..
Later one more cb injured, the price will be 40m.
German young cb priced at 25m don't want, chose one manu reject at a much older age at 20m.�
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AW, 5m is a small money to your club leh..
But the talent you can get is a HUGE diff !!
how come Liverpool din express interest in Fabio Coentrao?
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tio�frozen out by Marcelo at Real Madrid and spent his season on loan... but still a�good LB
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missed out Euro 2016 (and the trophy) though
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he was the next best thing till he went to RM. Then everything went down south. My guess ? Lousy attitude�
salah boh?
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Johnny Evans also worths 20m pounds?
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Wenger claims it's tough to find�value in the transfer market and English clubs are being targeted for high prices which�is true but that doesn't mean you stop buying if you need a player.
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Anyway it's not only the overseas clubs targeting English clubs but even English clubs setting high prices for their players as can be seen from Everton asking 75mil for Lukaku and WBA now asking 20mil for Evans etc. and as the clock ticks ever closer to 31/8, prices might be even higher for desperate buyers.
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http://www.mirror.co...-market-8655625
also kena spoilt market by Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea
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rather than overpaying for an average player, might as well spend�that amount of�money in the youth academy and hope one or two wonderkids can step up
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Wenger claims it's tough to find�value in the transfer market and English clubs are being targeted for high prices which�is true but that doesn't mean you stop buying if you need a player.
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Anyway it's not only the overseas clubs targeting English clubs but even English clubs setting high prices for their players as can be seen from Everton asking 75mil for Lukaku and WBA now asking 20mil for Evans etc. and as the clock ticks ever closer to 31/8, prices might be even higher for desperate buyers.
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Eriksen. Alderweid. Wayang. Lloris all on the cheap.
No wonder they also unwilling to splurge big.
They like arsenal also looking for value.
Unfortunately competitiors are splurging like money is water.
So i can say spurs n arsenal really need to rethink or lose out further unless their value proved otherwise
salah boh?
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Johnny Evans also worths 20m pounds?
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wah lao... quick, somebody phone Pool to hold the 32m Benteke deal, ask to raise it to at least 40m...
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how come Pool's sale of Allen and Ibe both should be worth at least 1.5x of Evans, but sold so cheaply???
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Somebody said the EPL market is crazy.
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I agree totally.
also kena spoilt market by Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea
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rather than overpaying for an average player, might as well spend�that amount of�money in the youth academy and hope one or two wonderkids can step up
In theory, yes spending on own youth academy is the best investment but can you wait for potential to be realized**? Fans are impatient, the Board is impatient and actually everyone is impatient so sadly, youth players don't get much chance esp at top clubs.
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If I were to be a youth player, I'll select a smaller club where my chance of�breaking in to the first team�is higher but then again the rewards at the top clubs make them a�natural draw for the better youth players.
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Lastly, yes market is being spolit by the 3 big spenders and some other clubs�as well but we're in a very practical world where if you don't pay the going rate, you don't get the players to bolster your squad and don't come crying later saying no value, we can't compete financially�etc cos it's who dares wins!
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**Edited: if it gets realized at all!!
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Spurs also one of the niao club.. maybe more niao than arsenal. But they lucky. Got alli for so cheap.
Eriksen. Alderweid. Wayang. Lloris all on the cheap.
No wonder they also unwilling to splurge big.
They like arsenal also looking for value.
Unfortunately competitiors are splurging like money is water.
So i can say spurs n arsenal really need to rethink or lose out further unless their value proved otherwise
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confirmed. read somewhere that the top earner is Lloris at 75-80kpw ? come'on, lousy sterling already earning 180k and Fabian Delph 90k
Spurs also one of the niao club.. maybe more niao than arsenal. But they lucky. Got alli for so cheap.
Eriksen. Alderweid. Wayang. Lloris all on the cheap.
No wonder they also unwilling to splurge big.
They like arsenal also looking for value.
Unfortunately competitiors are splurging like money is water.
So i can say spurs n arsenal really need to rethink or lose out further unless their value proved otherwise
I don't know who more niao, Wenger or Levy?? haha
Actually I think Wenger more niao cos Levy good at low balling whereas Wenger don't even bother to low ball!!
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Barca getting Dutch National Team keeper Cillesen as replacement for the outgoing Bravo.
Sell 17mil, buy 10mil provided Ajax accepts. Younger keeper but Bravo supposedly the better keeper on paper and def more experienced.
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I don't know who more niao, Wenger or Levy?? haha
Actually I think Wenger more niao cos Levy good at low balling whereas Wenger don't even bother to low ball!!$0
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40 million plus 1 pound is considered low-balling lor. No?
40 million plus 1 pound is considered low-balling lor. No?
Seriously speaking I don't treat it as low balling but niao�cos it did exceed the suspected buy out clause by 1pound. Low balling is putting in an offer well below the expected price. Wenger feels market overpriced so he won't even�bother to put in a bid whereas Levy will try his luck
Seriously speaking I don't treat it as low balling but niao�cos it did exceed the suspected buy out clause by 1pound. Low balling is putting in an offer well below the expected price. Wenger feels market overpriced so he won't even�bother to put in a bid whereas Levy will try his luck
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The market price for Suarez is definitely well above 40 million and 1 pound. That offer was definitely a low-ball offer and also trying his luck.�
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Not targeting against your comment but I'm just so disgusted by Arsene Wenger.�
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If there is one other team (besides Liverpool) that I would support to win the title, it would be Arsenal. A big club (at least Emirates stadium is much bigger then Anfield) like Arsenal does not have to try their luck in the transfer market. If a manager is serious about getting a player, the club should offer what is worth, rather than a value that is just (by a hair width) above the release clause.�
Barca getting Dutch National Team keeper Cillesen as replacement for the outgoing Bravo.
Sell 17mil, buy 10mil provided Ajax accepts. Younger keeper but Bravo supposedly the better keeper on paper and def more experienced.
http://www.dailymail...ester-City.html
Ter Stegen will be the first choice with Cillessen as back up.
The market price for Suarez is definitely well above 40 million and 1 pound. That offer was definitely a low-ball offer and also trying his luck.�
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Not targeting against your comment but I'm just so disgusted by Arsene Wenger.�
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If there is one other team (besides Liverpool) that I would support to win the title, it would be Arsenal. A big club (at least Emirates stadium is much bigger then Anfield) like Arsenal does not have to try their luck in the transfer market. If a manager is serious about getting a player, the club should offer what is worth, rather than a value that is just (by a hair width) above the release clause.�
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No worries, I agree and that's why I had few posts on this cos I also strongly disagree on his methods. Just imagine, we are not Arsenal fans n we�feel so bad about it, what more the paying supporters at the Emirates? Even 2 of their ex-players said so.......
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Ter Stegen will be the first choice with Cillessen as back up.
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Tks for the info!! If I were Cillessen, I won't go to Barca cos my National team place will be in jeopardy with the lack of playing time. Admittedly, the lure of being a Barca player is strong and so too the $.
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Maybe Cillessen is�confident of his ability to oust�Ter Stegen? Normally, it's hard for a�no. 2 goalie to oust the no. 1 unless the no. 1 had continuous bad games or he got injures and the no. 2 performed spectacularly well.�Anyway good luck to Cillessen!�
Barca getting Dutch National Team keeper Cillesen as replacement for the outgoing Bravo.
Sell 17mil, buy 10mil provided Ajax accepts. Younger keeper but Bravo supposedly the better keeper on paper and def more experienced.
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Kinda difficult for them to maintain the same rotation for these 2 top goalkeepers whereby 1 starts the league matches and the other one starts the cup matches...� gk are supposed to start every matches to build a good understanding with the defense
Kinda difficult for them to maintain the same rotation for these 2 top goalkeepers whereby 1 starts the league matches and the other one starts the cup matches...� gk are supposed to start every matches to build a good understanding with the defense
Exactly! I'm not really a fan of rotating goalies but admittedly some 1st team game time needs to be given to an equal adversary. Unlike outfield players who can be played in a diff position, u can't do this for a goalie but it has been proven many times how important a 2nd goalie is so good move by Barca to get a good goalie as back up!
Tks for the info!! If I were Cillessen, I won't go to Barca cos my National team place will be in jeopardy with the lack of playing time. Admittedly, the lure of being a Barca player is strong and so too the $.
Maybe Cillessen is confident of his ability to oust Ter Stegen? Normally, it's hard for a no. 2 goalie to oust the no. 1 unless the no. 1 had continuous bad games or he got injures and the no. 2 performed spectacularly well. Anyway good luck to Cillessen!
From Barcelona's perspective, best scenario would be both keepers fighting over the No.1 spot. However, at the end of the day, you still need to decide who is No.1.
Barcelona might adopt the same strategy of having one for league and one for cup games.
Exactly! I'm not really a fan of rotating goalies but admittedly some 1st team game time needs to be given to an equal adversary. Unlike outfield players who can be played in a diff position, u can't do this for a goalie but it has been proven many times how important a 2nd goalie is so good move by Barca to get a good goalie as back up!
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Yup, it is a critical position, if your backup is a joker, that is it... however, if u got 2 equally capable men vying for this position,one will definitely be unhappy and seek a move away, just like Diego Lopez, it was the same for him at Real Madrid and now he is equally unhappy at AC Milan...
Wenger sharing his thoughts on transfers. Worrying that English clubs will be suffocated in this 2-tier value systems. Also with the high wages paid, players will be more difficult to be offloaded and even if they are, clubs continue to subsidise their wages.
http://www.telegraph...-transfer-mark/
Last para backed up what I said previously on the criteria set by Wenger. Doesn't mean Wenger only looking at young players when looking at potential targets.
He agreed terms and passed medical before the deal fell through due to Levy interfering
Dunno why, I enjoyed the outgoing more than incoming for Pool this Window.
That's what Wenger meant I guess
[Sven Claes, Belgium HLN journalist]
Joe Hart is interested in a move to Sevilla but such a deal would mean Man City subsidising his �140,000-a-week salary. (Source: Daily Mail)
That's what Wenger meant I guess
I reckon disproportionate wage inflation is only an English phenomena and not applicable to other EU clubs other than the traditional European football powerhouses.
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This will affect English clubs when they want to clear non performing players and this Joe Hart example is a glaring one.
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I hope that clubs like Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs and others maintain their financial prudence, otherwise there will be nothing except bloating troubles ahead.
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Feel sorry for poor Joe. Pep Guardiola means business, serious business.
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Update: All is done.At this moment, still no agreement between Benteke and Palace. Negotiations still ongoing - not sure it will be done today.
[Sven Claes, Belgium HLN journalist]
Announcement later in the day. Will not be in time for Big Ben to play against Spurs.
Edited by Osprey23, 20 August 2016 - 08:02 AM.
Watford are benefitting from the Italian owners they have apparently
It's quite obvious there would be "2 tier" markets, one for the european leagues and one for EPL.
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Even in wet market, will one sell the provisions at the same price to a dressed up lady with maid in attendance as compared to a simply dressed housewife? It's the same in all other trades where prices are negotiable.
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Even before the huge jump in TV money, the bottom clubs of EPL earned more than that those at or near the top of other leagues, eg Atletico and BVB.
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Last years champion Leicester earn about 100 mil in TV money when Aresenal topped with about 110 mil by virtue of no. of live telecasts.
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For the next 3 years, the relegated clubs will get 99 mil (then the parachute money) while the champion will get about 165 mil.
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Arsenal last reported cash in hand according to BBC is about 220 mil.
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If you want the right player at the right price, then you can wait long long. Like bro Spring said we not being Arsenal fans (had loved watching them esp during Henry and Bergkamp time)� already feel fed up. Really feel for the fans.
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Invest in youth academy and be a selling club?
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And places outside the top 4.
In any industries, if you don't spend on R&D, recruitment and innovations and still hope to stay on top.
Success breeds success.
Invest in youth academy and be a selling club?
Hope the youth who become stars will stay on "meager" wages and lack of playing time?
There are more than one way to achieve success. Investing on youth does not mean you become a selling club.
Think back. Before Man Utd started their domination in the 90s, what enabled it. Look at Barcelona. This team is built from academy, or spent millions to assembled.
i am not against spending. I am just not convinced that this is the ONLY way
DEAL DONE: Watford have signed midfielder Roberto Pereyra from Juventus on a long-term deal.
Watford are benefitting from the Italian owners they have apparently
Huh? He very highly rated in fifa...Argentina international right?
There are more than one way to achieve success. Investing on youth does not mean you become a selling club.
Think back. Before Man Utd started their domination in the 90s, what enabled it. Look at Barcelona. This team is built from academy, or spent millions to assembled.
i am not against spending. I am just not convinced that this is the ONLY way
Totally agreed it's not the ONLY way. Try telling that to Wenger whose ONLY way is to buy value!
Clubs have to invest in youth for sure, supporters like nothing better than a home grown talent to work his way into the first team n that's why they often cut them more slack than a big money purchase.
That said, when your academy doesn't have a player to fill a position that requires urgent filling, u have to look at the transfer mkt to fill it n if it means paying abit more, so be it. Of course not the kind of money that buys Higuain nor the price that Lukaku is quoted at. 25-30mil for Mustafi is high but not crazy.
Totally agreed it's not the ONLY way. Try telling that to Wenger whose ONLY way is to buy value!
Clubs have to invest in youth for sure, supporters like nothing better than a home grown talent to work his way into the first team n that's why they often cut them more slack than a big money purchase.
That said, when your academy doesn't have a player to fill a position that requires urgent filling, u have to look at the transfer mkt to fill it n if it means paying abit more, so be it. Of course not the kind of money that buys Higuain nor the price that Lukaku is quoted at. 25-30mil for Mustafi is high but not crazy.
Agree totally. But if we look at Cech, isn't it a signing to fill a position that they have no immediate talent to fill? Talking about value, I am not sure if Xhaka at �30m is exactly that.
Therefore, I do believe Wenger, although trying to get value buys whenever he can, has accepted that overpaying for some might be inevitable.
Mustafi is a strange situation. My opinion is that they can afford but for some reasons, are unwilling to push it through. Let's see how this develops.
But i respect this ah seng wanker. Those gooners sibei ungrateful. Where the f**k were the fans when arsenal won the title. Many cups under ah seng. Mind u this arsenal last time sibei many ppl dun like to watch them one. Coz they defensive minded n play long balls one and at one point of time in mid 90s sliding down.
But came ah seng to rescue the club.. now the very grateful fans at that time wan2 turn on him again. Haiz... real hyposcry rite.
Anyway whining from a spurs fan. Hehe. Coz during this period spurs declined. No trophies. Only some worthless cup n finish below the gooners every time. Sibei sianz one.
And then out of the blue. The girl guide in london became rich overnight and spoil market by paying for players and heng heng got success n then eatablish themselves as a bigger club.
Then anoter blue man citeh came along and also bought the title.
Now got 2 new big clubs to concern with liao. Haiz
Isn't Bergovic there as No.2?
Another player not joining Chelsea would be Lukaku. According to Koeman, Lukaku had committed to him that he would be staying at Everton
Edited by Osprey23, 20 August 2016 - 05:05 PM.
Lol, welcome to the PL, Mr Conte.
Actually hor. I would like arsenal not to challenge for anything and that they deteriote and wenger leaves and the team in shambles.
But i respect this ah seng wanker. Those gooners sibei ungrateful. Where the f**k were the fans when arsenal won the title. Many cups under ah seng. Mind u this arsenal last time sibei many ppl dun like to watch them one. Coz they defensive minded n play long balls one and at one point of time in mid 90s sliding down.
But came ah seng to rescue the club.. now the very grateful fans at that time wan2 turn on him again. Haiz... real hyposcry rite.
Anyway whining from a spurs fan. Hehe. Coz during this period spurs declined. No trophies. Only some worthless cup n finish below the gooners every time. Sibei sianz one.
And then out of the blue. The girl guide in london became rich overnight and spoil market by paying for players and heng heng got success n then eatablish themselves as a bigger club.
Then anoter blue man citeh came along and also bought the title.
Now got 2 new big clubs to concern with liao. Haiz
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Update: All is done.
Announcement later in the day. Will not be in time for Big Ben to play against Spurs.
Confirmed.
All the best Big Ben!
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Actually hor. I would like arsenal not to challenge for anything and that they deteriote and wenger leaves and the team in shambles.
But i respect this ah seng wanker. Those gooners sibei ungrateful. Where the f**k were the fans when arsenal won the title. Many cups under ah seng. Mind u this arsenal last time sibei many ppl dun like to watch them one. Coz they defensive minded n play long balls one and at one point of time in mid 90s sliding down.
But came ah seng to rescue the club.. now the very grateful fans at that time wan2 turn on him again. Haiz... real hyposcry rite.
Anyway whining from a spurs fan. Hehe. Coz during this period spurs declined. No trophies. Only some worthless cup n finish below the gooners every time. Sibei sianz one.
And then out of the blue. The girl guide in london became rich overnight and spoil market by paying for players and heng heng got success n then eatablish themselves as a bigger club.
Then anoter blue man citeh came along and also bought the title.
Now got 2 new big clubs to concern with liao. Haiz
Have you all had a.manager that won nothing for 10 yrs? Did you all even have a manager for 10 yrs
It's quite obvious there would be "2 tier" markets, one for the european leagues and one for EPL.
Even in wet market, will one sell the provisions at the same price to a dressed up lady with maid in attendance as compared to a simply dressed housewife? It's the same in all other trades where prices are negotiable.
Even before the huge jump in TV money, the bottom clubs of EPL earned more than that those at or near the top of other leagues, eg Atletico and BVB.
Last years champion Leicester earn about 100 mil in TV money when Aresenal topped with about 110 mil by virtue of no. of live telecasts.
For the next 3 years, the relegated clubs will get 99 mil (then the parachute money) while the champion will get about 165 mil.
Arsenal last reported cash in hand according to BBC is about 220 mil.
If you want the right player at the right price, then you can wait long long. Like bro Spring said we not being Arsenal fans (had loved watching them esp during Henry and Bergkamp time) already feel fed up. Really feel for the fans.
Can I ask you something? Do you support money or man u?
Diego Lopez is expected to join Chelsea from AC Milan in the next few days as back-up for Thibaut Courtois. [Mirror]
Isn't Bergovic there as No.2?
Another player not joining Chelsea would be Lukaku. According to Koeman, Lukaku had committed to him that he would be staying at Everton
Either Lopez becomes the 3rd choice goalie or something's happening to Begovic. Think more likely the former. Don't underestimate the need for a good 3rd goalie as we saw last season when Courtois got injured n also this season at Pool with Karius.
That's why I don't know whether Pep is brave or he is silly being so blunt with Hart. Till Bravo actually comes, he's playing a dangerous game if u ask me as if something happens to Caballero, he doesn't have a 3rd quality goalie! Outfield players not really an issue to ostracise someone but not a specialised position like goalie. Anyway Pep Shld know better so who am I to question him.
Gaffer a bit cheesed off in the interview... I feel for him... fan expectations are so crazy nowadays... I'm guilty of wishing for some variables to change as well... the following quote is telling of how he feels.
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After the match, the Frenchman made a passionate defence of the accusation he is reluctant to spend and promised he would spend astonishing amounts on the right player.
��Why do you say I am reluctant? I don�t understand that,� said Wenger. � If we find players who can strengthen our team we are not reluctant. I would spend �300m if I find the right player and I have �300m.��He could not hide his disappointment to be thrown questions about finance and transfers in the immediate aftermath of an intense match with quite a lot on the line, even at this early stage of the campaign.��Unfortunately, nobody speaks about the performance of Rob Holding,� Wenger went on. �You should be happy � he is English, he is 20. But I am sorry he didn�t cost �55m so he cannot be good. He had an outstanding performance for a young boy who has never played in the Premier League up against a great player. We don�t talk about the players any more. We speak about anything else than football.�
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COYG!
Edited by ins1dious, 21 August 2016 - 01:38 PM.
Have you all had a.manager that won nothing for 10 yrs? Did you all even have a manager for 10 yrs
Can I ask you something? Do you support money or man u?
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Valencia wants �50m for Mustafi
Time to show them the middle finger
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If really at this price, I won't blame Wenger for not budging cos this is crazy even in today's market!
Want to carrot head Arsenal so they meet FFP and get a Pedro as well.
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That's why I don't know whether Pep is brave or he is silly being so blunt with Hart. Till Bravo actually comes, he's playing a dangerous game if u ask me as if something happens to Caballero, he doesn't have a 3rd quality goalie! Outfield players not really an issue to ostracise someone but not a specialised position like goalie. Anyway Pep Shld know better so who am I to question him.
Hart won't be sold until Bravo is in. So I think they are still quite covered in that aspect.
Hart won't be sold until Bravo is in. So I think they are still quite covered in that aspect.
You think so? I mean being covered?
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With all due respect, Caballero whilst decent is not top 4 level goalie so if Bravo gets suspended or injured, City might be found wanting I feel. I don't quite agree on the ostracizing of Hart,�could have been handled better but apparently Pep�has done this before at his previous clubs but first time for a goalie if not mistaken. We shall see.
Hmm, said it before Pep took over at City that he doesn't rate Hart.You think so? I mean being covered?
With all due respect, Caballero whilst decent is not top 4 level goalie so if Bravo gets suspended or injured, City might be found wanting I feel. I don't quite agree on the ostracizing of Hart, could have been handled better but apparently Pep has done this before at his previous clubs but first time for a goalie if not mistaken. We shall see.
Don't think it is ostracising him. If he willing to stay as 3rd choice, Pep won't mind a bit I think.
Anyway, hearing a bid from Everton is in
Edited by Osprey23, 22 August 2016 - 04:31 PM.
Valencia wants �50m for Mustafi
Time to show them the middle finger
Always rem this... peter is a man u fan...
Always rem this... peter is a man u fan...
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Though the only thing that he loves more than Man Utd is his money
Valencia wants �50m for Mustafi
Time to show them the middle finger
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This sound normal actually.
I was surprised at 25m initially when gunner going for him.
AW must be cursing himself not to give that extra 5m back then...
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I think he have no choice now but to pay 20m for that manu reject liao..
Though the only thing that he loves more than Man Utd is his money
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in this case... he can have both....
I can sense he is obviously pissed about so many people telling him who to sign.
I seriously think that Klopp wants to build and does not believe in using transfers to solve all problems.
Official stance is that he needs to play elsewhere to regain his form and fitness.
Personally, I feel he had pissed Klopp so much that his Anfield future is gone.
[RMC]
Liverpool are considering sending Sakho out on loan
Official stance is that he needs to play elsewhere to regain his form and fitness.
Personally, I feel he had pissed Klopp so much that his Anfield future is gone.
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hope he stays and Klopp gives him a chance. Pool only has Matip as the other 1st team CB. He is kind of untested in the EPL and fitness level is a big question mark at this time. Hence, it is wise not to let Sakho go for the sake of the team. �
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Still need to get rid of Markovic, Wisdom, Illori, Balo by transfer or loan. Dun think Klopp wants the window closed without doing these necessary... �
Klopp on transfer speculation. "I wait for the day when the transfer window is closed. I can't believe how obsessed you all are with this."
I can sense he is obviously pissed about so many people telling him who to sign.
I seriously think that Klopp wants to build and does not believe in using transfers to solve all problems.
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1 year nia.... wenger tio 20 yrs liao lol
Liverpool are considering sending Sakho out on loan
Official stance is that he needs to play elsewhere to regain his form and fitness.
Personally, I feel he had pissed Klopp so much that his Anfield future is gone.
if he gets rid of sakho, he's an idiot. for now, sakho n lovren should b the 1st choice pairing. i havent seen matip play, so cant comment. klavan is good, but i dont think he is ahead of sakho. n whatever petty differences he n sakho had, im sure they can settle it professionally.�
Even Carragher told Klopp to strengthen the team.
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There is a good article on Soccernet, but directed at Ah Seng, on how the football scene and transfer market has changed since the influx of TV money.
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http://www.espnfcasi...-gunners-title.
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Basically, if you know that there is (are) shortcoming(s) on your players in whichever positions and there is no one in the rank (incl the youth academy) to step up. Then you just have to pay the price and buy if you want to challenge for the title. To rebuild almost certainly means giving up the title fight.
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What happened to the Fox is a fairy tale that happen (not even) once every 50 years.
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Money may be the root of all evisl, but if you have them and don't spend it wisely is even the greater evil - not for the owners / shareholders obviously.
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Even Carragher told Klopp to strengthen the team.
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There is a good article on Soccernet, but directed at Ah Seng, on how the football scene and transfer market has changed since the influx of TV money.
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http://www.espnfcasi...-gunners-title.
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Basically, if you know that there is (are) shortcoming(s) on your players in whichever positions and there is no one in the rank (incl the youth academy) to step up. Then you just have to pay the price and buy if you want to challenge for the title. To rebuild almost certainly means giving up the title fight.
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What happened to the Fox is a fairy tale that happen (not even) once every 50 years.
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Money may be the root of all evisl, but if you have them and don't spend it wisely is even the greater evil - not for the owners / shareholders obviously.
Err at least for the past 20 years, the gunner went into Champion League even in those years they are not spending much..
Can Liverpool, Chelsea and Manu do that ?
Err at least for the past 20 years, the gunner went into Champion League even in those years they are not spending much..
Can Liverpool, Chelsea and Manu do that ?
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To be fair... I don't think even Arsenal can do this now also. Money is cheap and the field is just too strong.
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Teams have to spend and strengthen... but within reason. Some of the fees quoted are crazy.
To be fair... I don't think even Arsenal can do this now also. Money is cheap and the field is just too strong.
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Teams have to spend and strengthen... but within reason. Some of the fees quoted are crazy.
They just managed to do that last season�
Where is Chelsea and Manu?
Manu lost 100m and a manager by the way.
They just managed to do that last season�
Where is Chelsea and Manu?
Manu lost 100m and a manager by the way.
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if man u has fans that don't even dare to admit they are fans of man u...... nothing much to say....
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chelsea suffering from JM 3rd season syndrome
They just managed to do that last season�
Where is Chelsea and Manu?
Manu lost 100m and a manager by the way.
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Yes... but if you look at overall spend by Arsenal for the last 2+ years... you'll see it's net deficit.... they spent more buying than received on selling...�
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True though... the club has been more conservative in their spending without the big splash signings. That's how the gaffer likes to operate.�
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And also... he's not an idiot like LVG
[Manchester Evening News]
http://www.thesportr...dnesday-report/
According to the above report, Arsenal is getting their man soon at �25m plus �3m addons
Manchester United are interested in signing Southampton's Jose Fonte.
[Manchester Evening News]
Fonte deserved to be in a Top Club for his performance in the Euros, good experience player.
Looks like the earlier report of Valencia wanting �50m is wide off the mark.
http://www.thesportr...dnesday-report/
According to the above report, Arsenal is getting their man soon at �25m plus �3m addons
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25m too little lar... �we should offer 50m......
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because 25m can't win us the title but if we pay 50m.... the title is ours!!!
25m too little lar... �we should offer 50m......
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because 25m can't win us the title but if we pay 50m.... the title is ours!!!
Haiz.....missing the point as usual just like your boss.....
Haiz.....missing the point as usual just like your boss.....
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Even West Brom is helping Wenger to make up his mind
Apparently Hart is getting near to the exit door after a heated argument with pep during training.
Regardless heated or not, he is heading out I think.
Everton waiting for Bravo to complete the switch.
Arsenal head count just reduced by 1
Frankly hor, who will submit resignation with Comic Sans font??
After Bravo, they are reportedly trying to sign Hernandez from Leverkusen
Man citeh have lost their soul unfortunately. Buying instant successMan City are finishing the window strongly.
After Bravo, they are reportedly trying to sign Hernandez from Leverkusen
Man citeh have lost their soul unfortunately. Buying instant success
Hmm, you mean City or their neighbour?
Edited by Osprey23, 23 August 2016 - 10:04 PM.
City.Hmm, you mean City or their neighbour?
Man yo well. They r already self sustaining unlike citeh who depend on little history n oil monies
City.
Man yo well. They r already self sustaining unlike citeh who depend on little history n oil monies
True but Man Utd in the past 3 seasons basically is trying to buy instant success as well.
Just my observation, don't flame me
I recall Arsenal went into a period of austerity as they wanted to spend on their new bigger capacity stadium that will bring them higher revenue. Leaving Highbury was a tough pill to swallow then as most fans have connections with the old ground.
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10 years later today, it appears that the club is still unwilling to spend more competively in the market although the bigger Emirates should have given them more firepower. My personal view is the shareholders of Arsenal are the ones hogging the profits and dividends. Arsene may/could have gotten his share outside his managerial remuneration too. This arrangement is a win-win for everyone except the fans, who pay for ever higher season tickets and TV subscription without seeing their money spend on the recruits they like and being a perennial top 4. I would have understood their frustrations too.
Looks like Pako has made it clear. Unless Arsenal trigger his release clause at �50m, Mustafi is staying
Edited by Osprey23, 24 August 2016 - 08:46 AM.
True but Man Utd in the past 3 seasons basically is trying to buy instant success as well.
Just my observation, don't flame me
oic, MANU buying success when buying players... hmmm
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When pools buy players and change almost the entire team, just short of changing the toilet auntie, season after season is called rebuilding.... hmmm�
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I recall Arsenal went into a period of austerity as they wanted to spend on their new bigger capacity stadium that will bring them higher revenue. Leaving Highbury was a tough pill to swallow then as most fans have connections with the old ground.
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10 years later today, it appears that the club is still unwilling to spend more competively in the market although the bigger Emirates should have given them more firepower. My personal view is the shareholders of Arsenal are the ones hogging the profits and dividends. Arsene may/could have gotten his share outside his managerial remuneration too. This arrangement is a win-win for everyone except the fans, who pay for ever higher season tickets and TV subscription without seeing their money spend on the recruits they like and being a perennial top 4. I would have understood their frustrations too.
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Wenger rejected a pay increase... but take his share outside his manager pay? Might as well take both
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I think besides the rich guys like man u, man c and chelsea.... we have been competitive.... so unless we have commercial revenue like man u or sugar daddy like man c and chelsea.... there is only so much Arsenal can do...
All along this thread is Man Utd and Pool fans trading barbs, in addition to the usual transfer updates that O23 provides. Now Arsenal dowan spend money/no money spend/ngiao ji ngiao lan, also tio target.
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Football. Bloodee Hell.
All along this thread is Man Utd and Pool fans trading barbs, in addition to the usual transfer updates that O23 provides. Now Arsenal dowan spend money/no money spend/ngiao ji ngiao lan, also tio target.
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Football. Bloodee Hell.
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At least don't have too many plastic ManC fans crowing about their "success"
Wow, finally got someone on the same wavelength as me! That's what I've been saying all this while ie how did Pool, United, Arsenal etc became good? Cos they got success earlier likely cos they either came first, got more money earlier or combination of both. Now City, Chelsea n whoever using money n called plastic etc. Come on, don't begrudge new money cos u reaped the benefits of old money, cheers!
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Not just one. So many agree with you. All fans want success. Only disagreement is the philosophy of how.
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At the end of the season... there can only be one winner. Whether club spends 200m or 2m. If the club/manager/players have the heart and wherewithal... they can do it.
i rather Arsene Wenger uses that 50m go and buy 30 16-year-old potential kids
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then hope in 2/3 years time, got at least 1 turn into Messi or Ronaldo, and 3-5 become Rooney
Never like the Glazers, but admire them for their biz acumen. Who would use their own money to start up if the bank loans are available to you? Of course, the risks were there and could affect their biz in the State if MU deal backfired badly. They know their biz, maybe not football and left it to SAF to sail through the stormy years. Except for the 1st few years when interest payment were at its highest, they were not shy and supported the managers with fund to compete in transfer markets.
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They, like successful bizmen, know that you need to spend money to make money.
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Despite with higher net debts than many of its top rivals, MU, back by recent years bumper sponsorship deals and the new TV money, beat every club incl RM into submission in transfer market.
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While the detractors had field days on the Pogba deal, no one mentioned on the free transfer Ibra.
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While one "specialist" club is re-building after 12 years, and another trying to find its way after a 1/4 of CENTURY and hundreds of millions on dozens of players, they can proudly proclaim to be purists.
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MU cannot wait after just 3 years in wilderness. So instead of more money going as directors' fees to Glazer, they can spend every penny on the players for all MU fan could care.
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After all, most of these money come from merchandise and sponsorship as the fans do not pay the highest tickets for their dreams.
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So let the money hoarders and the lesser teams rejoice, we have the noisy neighbor and maybe the Chelski to take care of,
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i know but the fact is they did spend but maybe not on the scale of man u because they cannot afford to....
to be honest, even madrid and barca cannot spend like man u...
Ya, seems like their spending power curbed. Real stepping aside on Pogba's deal is a good indicator.
Barcelona will have to relies on their next batch of stars from academy. Their core group now are all aging together.
Man Utd is a monster in their commercial tie up. In term of fan base, maybe only Liverpool can match but even that is dwelling. If during Klopp's time Pool can't start winning again, future will b quite bleak in terms of overseas fan base. To have a commercial machinery running, global fan base is key.
Edited by Osprey23, 24 August 2016 - 10:44 AM.
Pako:"Mustafi will not be allowed to leave Valencia this summer"
Looks like Pako has made it clear. Unless Arsenal trigger his release clause at �50m, Mustafi is staying
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Not just one. So many agree with you. All fans want success. Only disagreement is the philosophy of how.
At the end of the season... there can only be one winner. Whether club spends 200m or 2m. If the club/manager/players have the heart and wherewithal... they can do it.
Well it sure doesn't seem like many agree with me here but no worries as we all Hv our opinion. BTW, My point on Arsenal is to spend in proportion of their earnings, not at the level of United, City n Chelsea. It's my opinion they are not doing this but as u said, diff clubs Hv diff philosophies so I shall not be posting anymore on this as I've riled up quite a few people here which was nvr the intention.
Like Weez911 says, not my club so actually better still they dont spend isn't it? N still got people say I geh geh happy at Arsenal's woes but ironical isn't it, if I'm happy why post their non spending? Cheers n peace to all here n let's enjoy the football!!
Ya, seems like their spending power curbed. Real stepping aside on Pogba's deal is a good indicator.
Barcelona will have to relies on their next batch of stars from academy. Their core group now are all aging together.
Man Utd is a monster in their commercial tie up. In term of fan base, maybe only Liverpool can match but even that is dwelling. If during Klopp's time Pool can't start winning again, future will b quite bleak in terms of overseas fan base. To have a commercial machinery running, global fan base is key.
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I wonder if there is no FFP, will man c, chelsea, barca, RM and PSG be able to fight with man u financially
Well it sure doesn't seem like many agree with me here but no worries as we all Hv our opinion. BTW, My point on Arsenal is to spend in proportion of their earnings, not at the level of United, City n Chelsea. It's my opinion they are not doing this but as u said, diff clubs Hv diff philosophies so I shall not be posting anymore on this as I've riled up quite a few people here which was nvr the intention.
Like Weez911 says, not my club so actually better still they dont spend isn't it? N still got people say I geh geh happy at Arsenal's woes but ironical isn't it, if I'm happy why post their non spending? Cheers n peace to all here n let's enjoy the football!!
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Ya! I say you geh geh!
Never like the Glazers, but admire them for their biz acumen. Who would use their own money to start up if the bank loans are available to you? Of course, the risks were there and could affect their biz in the State if MU deal backfired badly. They know their biz, maybe not football and left it to SAF to sail through the stormy years. Except for the 1st few years when interest payment were at its highest, they were not shy and supported the managers with fund to compete in transfer markets.
They, like successful bizmen, know that you need to spend money to make money.
Despite with higher net debts than many of its top rivals, MU, back by recent years bumper sponsorship deals and the new TV money, beat every club incl RM into submission in transfer market.
While the detractors had field days on the Pogba deal, no one mentioned on the free transfer Ibra.
While one "specialist" club is re-building after 12 years, and another trying to find its way after a 1/4 of CENTURY and hundreds of millions on dozens of players, they can proudly proclaim to be purists.
MU cannot wait after just 3 years in wilderness. So instead of more money going as directors' fees to Glazer, they can spend every penny on the players for all MU fan could care.
After all, most of these money come from merchandise and sponsorship as the fans do not pay the highest tickets for their dreams.
So let the money hoarders and the lesser teams rejoice, we have the noisy neighbor and maybe the Chelski to take care of,
Agree.
Different clubs just have to operate differently base on financial muscles. You guys got big muscles so can just buy whoever you fancy at whatever price.
People like us will just have to work around it and thus, taking a much tougher route to achieve success.
No right or wrong as I always said. With money, the path to glory is smoother. Without money, you just have to work harder for it.
I love all the hypocrisy here.
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i rather Arsene Wenger uses that 50m go and buy 30 16-year-old potential kids
then hope in 2/3 years time, got at least 1 turn into Messi or Ronaldo, and 3-5 become Rooney
Buying 30 youngsters is all well n good but but how many will actually come good? Ironically, city n Chelsea Hv one of the best youth academies cos they willing to spend there but which player came good from there? Maybe Iheanacho n Loftus Cheek possibly but not sure yet. We all impatient naturally so buying finished product is preferred but obviously not guaranteed.
Best I think is a mixture of say 18 first team standard players n 5-6 youth ones in the squad to see how they fare n give them exposure but easier said than done cos sometimes certain positions need filling n there could be lop sided of players in a particular position.
I love all the hypocrisy here.
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that's y i have said. it's good to b rich. but somehow whenever i say that to fans of certain clubs that their favourite club is buying titles, they get offended. there's nothing wrong. the world now is in such a way that u need money to succeed. of cos there will b clubs who dont read the script n spoil the party of the rich. but that is "once in 50yrs" occurrence.
What the point of buying in a Super wonder kid and sell him off at a Super value price during the peak time of the player ?
You need to keep that Super star in your team to win title and attract more wonder kid !!
Look at CR7, Manu should not sell him at all.
I know the player wanted to go RM but if Manu is determined to overtake RM in any sort of competition, they should make use of CR7 to attract more stars and win title.
On the contrary , Barca definitely done well to make sure Messi stay with them . They make use of Ugly Ron to nature Messi and now making Messi happy enough to groom the next batch of youth.
I can't see the gunner doing that .
its not that they wanna sell la. but they hv to. arsenal need the money at that time, thats y we see a lot of their star players are sold. n also they can counteroffer by increasing the players' pay. but now, i tink they do not hv to sell if they want. we will surely see arsenal buy expensive players at least once a window.
[L'Equipe]
Southampton have bid �15m for Sofiane Boufal
Premier League side Southampton have bid �15m for Lille attacker Sofiane Boufal, according to France Football.
Watford already had an offer rejected worth a similar amount earlier on during the window.
Lille want at least �20m plus bonuses in order to part with the player.
Southampton could come back with an improved offer in the coming days.
Spurs supposedly interested too but never bid.
His free kicks already worth the price tag
With no potential suitor in sight, no sure where James Pearce gets his optimism from.
Very good explanation on the cost involved in signing a player.
https://www.theguard...ow-market-myths
Mark Huges wants to take Sakho on loan
BILD report that Stoke City have bid �20 million for Borussia Dortmund's Christian Pulisic.
Stoke is aiming to finish the window with a bang too
Surprised that Spurs let him go. Good player in my opinion and offer back up option to Walker.
Mark Huges wants to take Sakho on loan
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On the contrary , Barca definitely done well to make sure Messi stay with them . They make use of Ugly Ron to nature Messi and now making Messi happy enough to groom the next batch of youth.
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With no potential suitor in sight, no sure where James Pearce gets his optimism from.
- Mario Balotelli could end his Liverpool nightmare by signing for Swiss Super League side FC Sion.
From THE SUN.
even back in italy no 1 want him, sad man
, wat happen to this guy. i still remember him winning the title for man c
if this happens, klopp will need to do some explaining. cos everyone knows the reason of giving him play time to regain his fitness or watever is nonsense. he needs to disclose wat went on at the us tour that had sakho sent home.
I rate Sakho and believe he is a captain material.
However, even if Klopp rates his ability as well, he needs to cut him down to size of he grows his head too big.
I believe Klopp is team builder. He will not allow anyone to disrupt his effort to gel a team. This loan move is more for Sakho to sort out his head imo. He either take this positively and work his way back or he will be sold. The message to him is clear.
Transfer Spending so far:
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MU� :� � 157,250,000.00
LFC :� �� 67,920,000.00
Che :� �� 63,580,000.00
Ars : � �� 44,200,000.00
LC :��� �� 40,380,000.00
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As it stands, MU would have the bigger chance of winning the title as only on 3 occasions did the biggest spenders win the EPL title (Chelsea twice-under JM and MU once)
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In the 4 past seasons that MC topped the spending, they finished no higher than 3rd. Let History repeat itself
Edited by Ngseeming, 25 August 2016 - 10:32 AM.
Transfer Spending so far:
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As it stand, MU would have the bigger chance of winning the title as only on 3 occasions did the biggest spenders won the EPL title (Chelsea twice and MU once)
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In the 4 past seasons that MC topped the spending, they finished no higher than 3rd. Let History repeat itself
but u forgot they won the charity shield.
how many time did the winner of charity shield went on to win the title.
but u forgot they won the charity shield.
how many time did the winner of charity shield went on to win the title.
you are right, not many, only MANU has done it...
you are right, not many, only MANU has done it...
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You just nail it ! 
The power of Manu can't be under-estimated�
but u forgot they won the charity shield.
how many time did the winner of charity shield went on to win the title.
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Yes, the CS is considered as poisoned chalice as its winners, more often than not, failed to follow up with title wins.
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On the 8 occasions that it won the CS in the premier league era, it finished as EPL champions 5 times.
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Not a bad omen to say the least.
Liverpool�s Mario Balotelli in talks with FC Sion over loan move
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This fellow was supposed to win the Ballon d'Or
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Then we should get Hart.
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Pap builds attacks from the back,
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Klopp builds attacks from the front.
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So if Hart is bad for Pap then he
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should be good for Klopp.
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It seems counter press is the total
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opposite to tiki taka.
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Then we should get Hart.
Pap builds attacks from the back,
Klopp builds attacks from the front.
So if Hart is bad for Pap then he
should be good for Klopp.
It seems counter press is the total
opposite to tiki taka.
Give Everton a chance lah. Every time target tio snatch very sian one you know.
Klopp already got in the keeper he needs. No need Hart.
who sia.........
Someone better than Griezmann, according to stats
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Someone better than Griezmann, according to stats
And for a.lousier team....hmmm
Why so many footballers bleaching their hair?
And for a.lousier team....hmmm
Why so many footballers bleaching their hair?
So that they can play like Messi?
Oh, ok
[Goal-Melissa Reddy]
Please please
Oh man . He's Travelling round the whole Europe.Mario Balotelli has travelled to Nice to discuss a move to the Ligue 1 side. No agreement has been struck between the sides yet, with Balotelli set to hold talks with Lucien Favre.
[Goal-Melissa Reddy]
Please please
Poor Mario.
Will he go to us and China to find new love ?
Mario Balotelli has travelled to Nice to discuss a move to the Ligue 1 side. No agreement has been struck between the sides yet, with Balotelli set to hold talks with Lucien Favre.
[Goal-Melissa Reddy]
Please please
Not please please ... It's tor-long tor-long
Hopefully it's a happy ending for him :))
On this day 2 years ago, he signed for Liverpool.
If today he completes his move to Nice, August 25th will be officially termed as Balotelli Day.
Edited by Osprey23, 26 August 2016 - 08:15 AM.
Wenger is going to spend around �100m this window.
Actually his agent did all the travelling. He only travels when the club gives a positive vibe to his agentOh man . He's Travelling round the whole Europe.
Poor Mario.
Will he go to us and China to find new love ?
Edited by Osprey23, 26 August 2016 - 08:24 AM.
3rd choice keeper
wah so many done deals.
Eduardo joins Chelsea on a one-year deal from Dinamo Zagreb
3rd choice keeper
Just my opinion but I see 2 very different attitudes to the goalkeeping situation at City v Chelsea.
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Chelsea being overtly cautious? Unless they intend to move Begovic on, they will have 3 very experienced goalies which is always good but hard to manage as only 1 can play and another will not be able to even sit on the bench.
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City on the other hand I feel take it too lightly. Fair enough Pep feels Bravo is the main man but the back ups are weak as Caballero is not exactly top 4 material IMO and likely the 3rd choice goalie is one of their youth goalies. For a club which is overstocked with experienced outfield players, this smacks of negligence I feel and explains why I felt Hart should have been kept or managed better.
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Pool also have 3 goalies though 1 is a 40yr old and some questioned this�signing when Klopp made it but I nvr doubted it and it proved a wise decision when Karius broke his hand.
Just my opinion but I see 2 very different attitudes to the goalkeeping situation at City v Chelsea.
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Chelsea being overtly cautious? Unless they intend to move Begovic on, they will have 3 very experienced goalies which is always good but hard to manage as only 1 can play and another will not be able to even sit on the bench.
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City on the other hand I feel take it too lightly. Fair enough Pep feels Bravo is the main man but the back ups are weak as Caballero is not exactly top 4 material IMO and likely the 3rd choice goalie is one of their youth goalies. For a club which is overstocked with experienced outfield players, this smacks of negligence I feel and explains why I felt Hart should have been kept or managed better.
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Pool also have 3 goalies though 1 is a 40yr old and some questioned this�signing when Klopp made it but I nvr doubted it and it proved a wise decision when Karius broke his hand.
i think hart de pay very high is it.
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i feel they want to bring down the wages structure, rather then the money from selling hart.
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and motivation factor also, having a unhappy england no1 in your sq is very unwise, all the media keep talking, and negivative �influence in the team.
i think hart de pay very high is it.
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i feel they want to bring down the wages structure, rather then the money from selling hart.
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and motivation factor also, having a unhappy england no1 in your sq is very unwise, all the media keep talking, and negivative �influence in the team.
Hart's pay is def high but so too the rest of the City players.
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You got a point that it may not be possible to keep the England no. 1 happy sitting on the bench but I still feel it's an accident waiting to happen if something happens to Bravo. But I suppose that is what Pep is paid to consider.
Hart's pay is def high but so too the rest of the City players.
You got a point that it may not be possible to keep the England no. 1 happy sitting on the bench but I still feel it's an accident waiting to happen if something happens to Bravo. But I suppose that is what Pep is paid to consider.
He is already sitting on the bench before Bravo arriving. Now with Bravo as Pep's first choice, Hart will be promoted to Director Box seat.
He is already sitting on the bench before Bravo arriving. Now with Bravo as Pep's first choice, Hart will be promoted to Director Box seat.
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It's certainly worrying for him cos now Koeman has come out to say Everton don't want him so where will he go to??
Haha good one
It's certainly worrying for him cos now Koeman has come out to say Everton don't want him so where will he go to??
Many clubs would love to have him but not sure how many can afford him, both in terms of agreeing fee with City and also his wage.
I only heard Everton and now if Koeman is denying it, I really not sure liao
Haha good one
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It's certainly worrying for him cos now Koeman has come out to say Everton don't want him so where will he go to??
According to the daily mirror, joe hart is willing to take a pay cut to join liverpool ..... i suppose everton (?)
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According to the daily mirror, joe hart is willing to take a pay cut to join liverpool ..... i suppose everton (?)
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Highly unlikely bro. I think David Anderson from Mirror was the one who reported Everton keen on Hart but not Liverpool some time back.
Migs on 60kpw I think and likely to be on the bench once Karius is fit. How much pay cut is Hart willing to take to sit on the bench at Anfield?
Always remember this guy cos he was the sub who came on for Italy in the Euros to take a penalty in the shoot out and then he went on to-in the commentator's words "he's like a ballet dancer taking a penalty" take the most bizarre�penalty and miss!!�
That fella who pattern more than badminton then totally misswd the penalty kick? Haha
Just read this article in Independent, Pep admits it could be a big mistake to lose Hart.
Well, credit to him for being honest enough to say this and not being in denial
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http://www.independe...p-a7208336.html
Just read this article in Independent, Pep admits it could be a big mistake to lose Hart.
Well, credit to him for being honest enough to say this and not being in denial
http://www.independe...p-a7208336.html
To me, it is merely a PR exercise. He didn't speak his mind on Hart but rather being very diplomatic. I give him due credit to give Hart the dignity and respect he deserves after serving so many years at City.
To me, it is merely a PR exercise. He didn't speak his mind on Hart but rather being very diplomatic. I give him due credit to give Hart the dignity and respect he deserves after serving so many years at City.
Maybe it is a PR exercise�to try get the City fans back on his side but I like honesty from Mgrs whether it's a PR exercise or not. It is always a risk to when you buy/sell players and esp for a long serving goalie who is playing in an important position.
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I'm not�a Pep fan but I like straight talking Mgrs though he could learn to be more tactful in his handling of players. I read Ribery is much happier with�Ancelotti now at BM�cos that coach is a father figure type which is welcomed by most players. Ribery sort of hinted he was not too happy with Pep esp for being told on how to play and his positioning etc. To each his own I suppose.�
Maybe it is a PR exercise to try get the City fans back on his side but I like honesty from Mgrs whether it's a PR exercise or not. It is always a risk to when you buy/sell players and esp for a long serving goalie who is playing in an important position.
I'm not a Pep fan but I like straight talking Mgrs though he could learn to be more tactful in his handling of players. I read Ribery is much happier with Ancelotti now at BM cos that coach is a father figure type which is welcomed by most players. Ribery sort of hinted he was not too happy with Pep esp for being told on how to play and his positioning etc. To each his own I suppose.
Yup totally agree. No manager will be 100% liked by his players because all are human beings and there would bound to be some with character that just don't like you.
Klopp although so well like at BVB, also don't have good words from Mkhitaryan
Yup totally agree. No manager will be 100% liked by his players because all are human beings and there would bound to be some with character that just don't like you.
Klopp although so well like at BVB, also don't have good words from Mkhitaryan
speaking of this guy. jm say he will make the biggest impact .
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but after 3 game, he have yet to even start, or play 45 min in any game
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very puzzeling.
�BY�ESPN STAFF
Joe Hart would take pay cut to join Liverpool�
TOP STORY: Hart would take pay cut to join LiverpoolJoe Hart's future at Manchester City appears to be over after Pep Guardiola sealed the�signing of Claudio Bravo from Barcelona�on Thursday, and the England No. 1's options appear to be limited, and Everton boss�Ronald Koeman has said he has no interest in the 29-year-old.
According to�The Sun, Hart is now trying to tempt Liverpool to make an offer for his services by offering to take a "huge pay cut" on his �150,000 weekly wage to seal a move to Anfield.
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�BY�ESPN STAFF
Joe Hart would take pay cut to join Liverpool�
TOP STORY: Hart would take pay cut to join LiverpoolJoe Hart's future at Manchester City appears to be over after Pep Guardiola sealed the�signing of Claudio Bravo from Barcelona�on Thursday, and the England No. 1's options appear to be limited, and Everton boss�Ronald Koeman has said he has no interest in the 29-year-old.
According to�The Sun, Hart is now trying to tempt Liverpool to make an offer for his services by offering to take a "huge pay cut" on his �150,000 weekly wage to seal a move to Anfield.
Jurgen Klopp, who brought in Loris Karius to compete with Simon Mignolet this summer, has apparently shown no interest as yet but Hart hopes he can sway the German.�
The circus round trip show will end on 31st August 2016.
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Five more days to go. Cheer them on, lads.
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BY ESPN STAFF Joe Hart would take pay cut to join Liverpool
TOP STORY: Hart would take pay cut to join Liverpool
Joe Hart's future at Manchester City appears to be over after Pep Guardiola sealed the signing of Claudio Bravo from Barcelona on Thursday, and the England No. 1's options appear to be limited, and Everton boss Ronald Koeman has said he has no interest in the 29-year-old.
According to The Sun, Hart is now trying to tempt Liverpool to make an offer for his services by offering to take a "huge pay cut" on his �150,000 weekly wage to seal a move to Anfield.
Jurgen Klopp, who brought in Loris Karius to compete with Simon Mignolet this summer, has apparently shown no interest as yet but Hart hopes he can sway the German.
As usual, the rag spouting nonsense
speaking of this guy. jm say he will make the biggest impact .
but after 3 game, he have yet to even start, or play 45 min in any game
very puzzeling.
Actually I did the same also when Man Utd signed him. He can inject pace into Man Utd's attack. Imaging Mkhitaryan and Martial on either side.
Maybe is fitnes? Only JM knows
This should put the rumour to bed now
Edited by Osprey23, 26 August 2016 - 11:55 PM.
Going for another winger but this one is is still very young. Klopp rates him highly and forced to act now due to Stoke submitting a bid for him. BVB reluctant to sell according to reports
Edited by Osprey23, 27 August 2016 - 07:56 AM.
Edited by Osprey23, 27 August 2016 - 08:48 AM.
Balo & Hart should do a Scheweni and say Pool/MC are the only clubs they will play for in Europe. And that they will be ready when the clubs need them. Meanwhile enjoy the free gym with top trainers and take home good six figure pay� every week.
Balo & Hart should do a Scheweni and say Pool/MC are the only clubs they will play for in Europe. And that they will be ready when the clubs need them. Meanwhile enjoy the free gym with top trainers and take home good six figure pay every week.
Hmm firstly, Balo don't have 6 figures to collect. Secondly, Hart believes he can be the No.1 for most of the EPL clubs. Lastly, both of them are not at the tail end of their playing careers.
Schweinstiger I think he wants to play in MLS.
Mignolet definitely dont deserve first team placeHmm firstly, Balo don't have 6 figures to collect. Secondly, Hart believes he can be the No.1 for most of the EPL clubs. Lastly, both of them are not at the tail end of their playing careers.
Schweinstiger I think he wants to play in MLS.
Karius looks ok but based on first game I saw, wasn't impressive
I'm sure as hell impressed with hart. One of the best in PL
I don't see why we can't considering buying him? Unless the transfer is super high
Mignolet definitely dont deserve first team place
Karius looks ok but based on first game I saw, wasn't impressive
I'm sure as hell impressed with hart. One of the best in PL
I don't see why we can't considering buying him? Unless the transfer is super high
You still impressed with him even after his showing at Euros? Many pointing fingers at him for England's exit.
Hart on his day is certainly a top keeper but he is prone to errors as well. Better than Migs of course but if Klopp's idea is to groom Karius to the first choice, Migs or Hart will have to be on the bench.
I do rate Karius as a young keeper, I see lots of potential in him. However, I won't be expecting a superb season from him either as I know he needs time to adjust. De Gea I remember didn't really do well in his first season at Man Utd too but they kept faith in him and now he is repaying them handsomely.
I hope karius can turn out goodYou still impressed with him even after his showing at Euros? Many pointing fingers at him for England's exit.
Hart on his day is certainly a top keeper but he is prone to errors as well. Better than Migs of course but if Klopp's idea is to groom Karius to the first choice, Migs or Hart will have to be on the bench.
I do rate Karius as a young keeper, I see lots of potential in him. However, I won't be expecting a superb season from him either as I know he needs time to adjust. De Gea I remember didn't really do well in his first season at Man Utd too but they kept faith in him and now he is repaying them handsomely.
Been a long time since we had a rock between the posts
Fingers crossed.I hope karius can turn out good
Been a long time since we had a rock between the posts
I believe he has the potential to come good butI am not sure if Achterberg can unlock it.
Always want to better goalkeeper coach
Not sure how accurate but interesting
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Not sure how accurate but interesting
As usual, I would challenge the logic of looking at gross spend to analyse this. Pool's spending most of the time are supported by the cash from sale. So when we buy Torres for 23m, sell him for 50m, buy Carroll for 35m, our spending is registered as 58m. But during these transactions, we lost a 50m rated striker and replaced with one who is 35m.
Did Pool improve as a team at the end? I am not too sure
Edited by Osprey23, 27 August 2016 - 04:23 PM.
I kapo created the link for you
Thanks.. I use mobile, dunno how to attach link
The gap between everton and arsenal for 7th and 6th is double sia
Actually just need to add h t t p : / / (without space) in front can liaoThanks.. I use mobile, dunno how to attach link
The gap between everton and arsenal for 7th and 6th is double sia
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Actually just need to add h t t p : / / (without space) in front can liao
Ok thanks.... yeah wenger just confirmed the signings during press conference
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As usual, I would challenge the logic of looking at gross spend to analyse this. Pool's spending most of the time are supported by the cash from sale. So when we buy Torres for 23m, sell him for 50m, buy Carroll for 35m, our spending is registered as 58m. But during these transactions, we lost a 50m rated striker and replaced with one who is 35m.
Did Pool improve as a team at the end? I am not too sure
But by the same regard... all teams is calculated the same way...
Imagine chelsea bought matic, sold matic then buy back matic...lol
Yup, they will register a higher fee for Matip. But they didn't lose anyone for him, that's my point.Ok thanks.... yeah wenger just confirmed the signings during press conference
But by the same regard... all teams is calculated the same way...
Imagine chelsea bought matic, sold matic then buy back matic...lol
To guage how much a team has strengthen, I feel using nett spending will be a better indication.
But of course I am aware of the other way of looking at it: regardless whether the money is from sales or not, the club did spend that money to sign the new players.
So in that sense, I can only say Pool have been poor in replacing departed players
Edited by Osprey23, 28 August 2016 - 08:07 PM.
Not going to happen then.
Lol!!! Italian clubs r really damn lowballer.Palermo apparently offering Mario Balotelli £11,000 a week. He earns more than that in a day at Liverpool
Not going to happen then.
More like this is the financial status of those 2nd and 3rd tier Italian clubs.Lol!!! Italian clubs r really damn lowballer.
The whole league is not generating a lot money beside Juv and both Millan clubs.
No lei...ac milan also lowballer. Still remember they lowballed when wanna buy aquilani. Loan n loan n offer low low price when got option to buy.More like this is the financial status of those 2nd and 3rd tier Italian clubs.
The whole league is not generating a lot money beside Juv and both Millan clubs.
So where is aquilani now ?No lei...ac milan also lowballer. Still remember they lowballed when wanna buy aquilani. Loan n loan n offer low low price when got option to buy.
For this case, I still think Liverpool kanna carrot headed lo. Lol.
What Millan offer , in my opinion, is market price :)
Edited by L23, 28 August 2016 - 08:49 PM.
Yup, they will register a higher fee for Matip. But they didn't lose anyone for him, that's my point.
To guage how much a team has strengthen, I feel using nett spending will be a better indication.
But of course I am aware of the other way of looking at it: regardless whether the money is from sales or not, the club did spend that money to sign the new players.
So in that sense, I can only say Pool have been poor in replacing departed players
Matic not matip...lol
If I not wrong, matic replaced makelele
Ya sorry typo. A younger better version replaced an aging star. So even they paid twice for him, still an upgrade imo.Matic not matip...lol
If I not wrong, matic replaced makelele
Pool on the other hand, loosing players at their peak and didn't really sign better to replace.
Edited by Osprey23, 29 August 2016 - 06:41 AM.
Ignacio Camacho set to join West Brom for �20M
So far I only know Globo Esporte is credible in Brazil. Not sure about this Futebol de Gaucha.
This thread will close on Thursday... T_T
This thread will close on Thursday... T_T
Yup, deadline day is always exciting lol
Balo & Hart should do a Scheweni and say Pool/MC are the only clubs they will play for in Europe. And that they will be ready when the clubs need them. Meanwhile enjoy the free gym with top trainers and take home good six figure pay� every week.
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No lei...ac milan also lowballer. Still remember they lowballed when wanna buy aquilani. Loan n loan n offer low low price when got option to buy.
ac milan not low ball.
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they really broke. looking to sell the �club.
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italy �now only left juv can make it
ac milan not low ball.
they really broke. looking to sell the club.
italy now only left juv can make it
Inter Milan up and coming. Their recent signings showing intent.
Guardian's take on�EPL clubs fans wishlist as transfer deadline day looms......
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Guardian's take on EPL clubs fans wishlist as transfer deadline day looms......
https://www.theguard...summer-spending
Can't really comment on others but I do agree that if Pool can get Ricardo Rodriguez would be boss.
This window however, I am still unable to comprehend Klopp's strategy.
Karius, Matip and Klavan most straightforward to replace Bogdan, Skrtel and Kolo. Grujic already signed to replaced Allen.
Then comes to the winger and AM position that we saw Klopp went ahead to splash on more expansive alternatives when the younger and cheaper first choice targets were unattainable for different reasons.
What remains are the DM and LB where by Klopp decided not to do anything once the first choice targets are off. Dahoud will be visited again but for the LB, really have no idea what Klopp has in mind. Milner, in terms of the age and natural position, cannot be seen as a long term solution. If Moreno cannot improve to the required standard, we really have to splash on that position.
Can't really comment on others but I do agree that if Pool can get Ricardo Rodriguez would be boss.
This window however, I am still unable to comprehend Klopp's strategy.
Karius, Matip and Klavan most straightforward to replace Bogdan, Skrtel and Kolo. Grujic already signed to replaced Allen.
Then comes to the winger and AM position that we saw Klopp went ahead to splash on more expansive alternatives when the younger and cheaper first choice targets were unattainable for different reasons.
What remains are the DM and LB where by Klopp decided not to do anything once the first choice targets are off. Dahoud will be visited again but for the LB, really have no idea what Klopp has in mind. Milner, in terms of the age and natural position, cannot be seen as a long term solution. If Moreno cannot improve to the required standard, we really have to splash on that position.
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maybe only have enough budget for 1?
maybe only have enough budget for 1?
Don't think budget is an issue bro.
Last check, Pool's nett spending is �5.6m. We might not be very rich but if we want to spend, definitely can do better than this.
Can't really comment on others but I do agree that if Pool can get Ricardo Rodriguez would be boss.
This window however, I am still unable to comprehend Klopp's strategy.
Karius, Matip and Klavan most straightforward to replace Bogdan, Skrtel and Kolo. Grujic already signed to replaced Allen.
Then comes to the winger and AM position that we saw Klopp went ahead to splash on more expansive alternatives when the younger and cheaper first choice targets were unattainable for different reasons.
What remains are the DM and LB where by Klopp decided not to do anything once the first choice targets are off. Dahoud will be visited again but for the LB, really have no idea what Klopp has in mind. Milner, in terms of the age and natural position, cannot be seen as a long term solution. If Moreno cannot improve to the required standard, we really have to splash on that position.
Ricardo Rodriguez, Chelsea also want him and they have been rebuffed I think so doubt if Pool can get.
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I believe Klopp's idea is that if can't get the choices he wants, then might as well don't buy and wait for the right one but on the other hand, it's a big risk esp if he doesn't�have a suitable cover even academy ones�which seems to be the case.
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I read Chelsea are desperately short of defenders and they have been linked with quite a few but for some reason, no deal done (likely cos of price) and they waiting for the sellers to blink but in their case, they have some quality young defenders in their midst so can rely on them if they really can't get in their choices.
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In short, yes it is a strange decision on LB at Pool. I'm already on record here that I don't think Milner is the answer even though he is willing.�BTW, Christian Fuchs name has been floating around but my guess is it's just paper or agent talk.
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http://www.mirror.co...ristian-8722134
Mauricio Pochettino will look to emulate�Liverpool�in the transfer market this summer � and says he wants a player similar to�Sadio Mane.
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Tottenham have shown an interest in Mane over the past year, and he was heavily tipped for a move to Spurs back in January.
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The Senegalese winger moved to Anfield this summer in a �30m deal from Southampton, and has been the club�s stand-out performer so far this season.
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As reported earlier by English jornos on our interest.
Unlikely to happen this window.
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They need to get their own scouts.
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Official: Southampton have completed the signing of Sofiane Boufal from Lille
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Liverpool's next forward?
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Hehe all depend if he score at Anfield this seasonLiverpool's next forward?
Hmm, how many DMs do Spurs need?
Tats bollocks.De Telegraf claim Richedly Bazoer is keen to leave Ajax this summer with Tottenham monitoring the situation.
Hmm, how many DMs do Spurs need?
Spurs though is heavily linked with isco and zaha.
On the sales side. Chadli going for 13m to west brom.. a bit sayang as hes not bad a player... he was a regular at least played a couple of good games too but faded towards end of last season.
Also linked out is mason. Anothet good backup plus hes english.
Spurs do need isco to provide good competition to dele alli. Eriksen and lamela.
Even min son likely to be sold to wolfsburg. And this may leave spurs short on wide man.
Probably poch tinks edwards. Winks and onamah are good potential to be warranted on the bench and cup games
DEAL DONE: West Brom have signed Nacer Chadli from Tottenham. 4-year deal. Undisclosed fee.Tats bollocks.
Spurs though is heavily linked with isco and zaha.
On the sales side. Chadli going for 13m to west brom.. a bit sayang as hes not bad a player... he was a regular at least played a couple of good games too but faded towards end of last season.
Also linked out is mason. Anothet good backup plus hes english.
Spurs do need isco to provide good competition to dele alli. Eriksen and lamela.
Even min son likely to be sold to wolfsburg. And this may leave spurs short on wide man.
Probably poch tinks edwards. Winks and onamah are good potential to be warranted on the bench and cup games
Chadli has just been confirmed.
Isco? Would his wage demand be an issue?
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Andre Wisdom joining Red Bull Salzburg on season-long loan
Luis Alberto close to a switch to Lazio for �4.2m
Mario Balotelli is set to move to Nice.
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Pool's squad trimming continues
Andre Wisdom joining Red Bull Salzburg on season-long loan
Luis Alberto close to a switch to Lazio for �4.2m
Mario Balotelli is set to move to Nice.
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Every one out ... really looking forward to someone to come in ...
Every one out ... really looking forward to someone to come in ...
I think bo liao. Klopp is buy then sell. So that no one can say FSG not backing him
According to the same article, they are expected to complete the signing of left back Marcos Alonso from Fiorentina for �23m and are still in pursuit of a central defender.
Bye bye Joe.
According to reports in Italy, Joe Hart will be travelling to Torino this afternoon for medical. Expected to sign a one year loan deal with Man City contributing a portion of his wage.
Bye bye Joe.
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A huge downgrade...
Mario, are you joining him any time soon?
Mario heading to France apparently.
According to reports in Italy, Joe Hart will be travelling to Torino this afternoon for medical. Expected to sign a one year loan deal with Man City contributing a portion of his wage.
Bye bye Joe.
Playing away in Italy is better than playing for Slumberland I supposed.
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Would be under constant UK media microscope whenever things don't go well.
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Berahino jet off for holiday just when Stoke expressed hope in signing him.
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Look like he is also doing a Schweini and look set to see out his final year at WBA.
Berahino jet off for holiday just when Stoke expressed hope in signing him.
Look like he is also doing a Schweini and look set to see out his final year at WBA.
His career really stagnated because of the face off with WBA. He tried to force a move for two years liao but always get blocked and relationship with manager soured.
His pay is very low, so I think that's why WBA can afford to screw him up
Hearing Wilshere is allowed to leave Arsenal
10 EPL clubs have made loan offers for Wilshere & over dozen clubs on the Continent. None have offered more than 50% wages.
Pool offered too I think. Thrown in the treatment table next to Sturridge in an attempt to lure him
His career really stagnated because of the face off with WBA. He tried to force a move for two years liao but always get blocked and relationship with manager soured.
His pay is very low, so I think that's why WBA can afford to screw him up
I don't know who is worse off here, WBA or Berahino?
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WBA could have easily gotten 15-20mil for him and now likely to let him go for free next summer. Even though he's on low wages, it's disturbing to have an unhappy player in the dressing room, not to mention loss of a significant fee.
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This is what I call lose-lose n that's why I don't believe in keeping an unhappy player!!
Apparently he could go for free next summer only if he goes abroad.
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WBA is entitled an undisclosed sum of money if he joins another english club on free transfer.
Yes, by next year he is still under 24. So if another English club signs him, they have to pay WBA a compensation set by tribunal.Apparently he could go for free next summer only if he goes abroad.
WBA is entitled an undisclosed sum of money if he joins another english club on free transfer.
But with him frozen out and development stagnated, WBA would not be expecting much.
So far the record tribunal fee is for Ings where Liverpool paid Burnley �6.5m and �1.5m addons
Edited by Osprey23, 30 August 2016 - 02:57 PM.
ESPN reported that Liverpool rejected numerous approach for Ings, one of which is an offer in excess of �20m
So we should expect him to start or at least on the bench, right? If klopp wants pressing fm front, ings fit the bill.Newcastle want Markovic
ESPN reported that Liverpool rejected numerous approach for Ings, one of which is an offer in excess of £20m
So we should expect him to start or at least on the bench, right? If klopp wants pressing fm front, ings fit the bill.
Not sure bro.
Full press - Firmino
Counter - Origi
Park bus - Sturridge
I really think Ings might have to take the wide roles to start more regularly
A fan tweeted for his club to sign Wilshire on loan, to give Sturridge some company in hospital
Doesn't make sense to me but well, Klopp is the boss.
Same....this sakho thing is really perplexing. Their reason to send him out on loan doesnt make sense. Its not as if he was out injured for a long period n came back a worse player. Hes out for a short period, which i believe most cases on affect a player's performance.Sakho told to go on loan to save his Anfield career
Doesn't make sense to me but well, Klopp is the boss.
N then saying they hv lovren, matip n klavan is enough is also stupid. Clearly sakho must b ahead of klavan. N saying there is also gomez n lucas...come on! Surely a real CB is ahead of a makeshift CB. N if gomez is ready, put him as LB, since the last i saw him olay really well is as a LB.
Same....this sakho thing is really perplexing. Their reason to send him out on loan doesnt make sense. Its not as if he was out injured for a long period n came back a worse player. Hes out for a short period, which i believe most cases on affect a player's performance.
N then saying they hv lovren, matip n klavan is enough is also stupid. Clearly sakho must b ahead of klavan. N saying there is also gomez n lucas...come on! Surely a real CB is ahead of a makeshift CB. N if gomez is ready, put him as LB, since the last i saw him olay really well is as a LB.
Do note also we will be losing Matip during AFCON. So Lovren and Klavan must stay very fit during that period.
Ya, if every injured player needs to be sent on loan to regain fitness, why Sturridge still here?
Confirm something happened and we aren't aware of
And dunno y sell townsend earlier and now wan2 get zaha whereby i tink its a downgrade.
Also min son bid accepted. Only after 1 yr and not muxh chance to prove himself.
Seriously spurs have underperformed in transfer unless poch tinks winks. Edwards can become the next alli
Thats y...im sure something happened, which i tink is only fair that the club reveal wat happened.Do note also we will be losing Matip during AFCON. So Lovren and Klavan must stay very fit during that period.
Ya, if every injured player needs to be sent on loan to regain fitness, why Sturridge still here?
Confirm something happened and we aren't aware of
Spurs transfer this season also low key and alsl low balling.
And dunno y sell townsend earlier and now wan2 get zaha whereby i tink its a downgrade.
Also min son bid accepted. Only after 1 yr and not muxh chance to prove himself.
Seriously spurs have underperformed in transfer unless poch tinks winks. Edwards can become the next alli
Actually Son is a strange buy. He has only a few years before he gets enlisted. Actually if now can let go, not a bad deal. At least can recoup.
Do note also we will be losing Matip during AFCON. So Lovren and Klavan must stay very fit during that period.
Ya, if every injured player needs to be sent on loan to regain fitness, why Sturridge still here?
Confirm something happened and we aren't aware of
Looks like I am wrong on Matip. He is on a self-imposed exile and won't be going to AFCON.
http://www.liverpool...mposed-11820074
Skilful n willing to take on opponents like most Brazilians. Think Watford got a good player though if their style of play doesn't suit him then may not be a good fit but I'm expecting this guy to go places.
PlayStation CB returning to EPL?
http://www.express.c...l-today-reports
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Quite wide reported so may not be just rumour.
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Chelski could be happy to have "loaned" him out to PSG for fitness and experince then have him back for a good profit.
Quite wide reported so may not be just rumour.
Chelski could be happy to have "loaned" him out to PSG for fitness and experince then have him back for a good profit.
Well, if Man Utd can loan Pogba out for 4 years to development, Chelsea loaning out Luiz don't really sound impossible
Well, if Man Utd can loan Pogba out for 4 years to development, Chelsea loaning out Luiz don't really sound impossible
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not sure why they would want a CB who can't really defend. I though Conte's style is a bit more defensively-minded... having an attack-minded CB doesnt really fit in.. �just commenting aloud..�
not sure why they would want a CB who can't really defend. I though Conte's style is a bit more defensively-minded... having an attack-minded CB doesnt really fit in.. just commenting aloud..
If he wants to try 3 CBs at the back, Luiz might be useful.
Well, if Man Utd can loan Pogba out for 4 years to development, Chelsea loaning out Luiz don't really sound impossible
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as the transfer window comes to a close, it is unlikely to see any further additions to Pool. �Likely departures are Mario, Markovic and Illori. �I think Sakho is going to stay as he looks likely to reject loan approaches.
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If he wants to try 3 CBs at the back, Luiz might be useful.
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as the transfer window comes to a close, it is unlikely to see any further additions to Pool. �Likely departures are Mario, Markovic and Illori. �I think Sakho is going to stay as he looks likely to reject loan approaches.
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It is a bit of strange window as we look back at Klopp's first summer transfer. The squad definitely looks more like his style now. �However, the big questions remained unanswered as there is hardly much net spent. The LB position and DM remained unfilled. �The coffeeshop talk is that perhaps he is trying to conceal serious budget constraints...
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another question is that it seems that his preferred formation, at least for the time being is the 4-3-3 �(or 4-5-1). This may be due to the type of players at his disposal. �Under Klopp, Pool always looks more balanced with a 4-2-3-1 so this issue also comes as a slight surprise, at least to me. �Whether in time to come, Klopp will resettle the squad back to this "ideal" formation will be an interesting future development. �
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True. N even if they don need so many players due to lighter schedule,wat if they do qualify for europe next season? Only then they wanna look for players? By then, the new players will need time to gel. N it will b a disappointing season agn when the 1st team players get fatigue n new players unable to adapt quickly.Soccernet has a good article on
http://www.espnfcasi...left-back-links
This was troubling for a number of reasons. Some fans felt the manager was covering up for the lack of squad investment by claiming he knew his left-back options were already sound -- a view certainly not shared by the majority of supporters.
At a time when the more likely scenario is more players leaving, supporters may look back on such uncertain times as the good old days.
Though it's arguable Klopp shouldn't need more players for a season with a greatly reduced workload, it may be fatal for a club to stand still while others -- already ahead of them anyway -- invest heavily.
N then they will kancheong, sell the under performing players, buy a few more...n this repeat agn n agn. A team forever in rebuilding.
If Klopp is told specifically that this window his nett spend will be zero, do you think he will sit extend his contract for 3 more years? He does not have to tie himself to Liverpool if there is sign of financial constraints.Soccernet has a good article on
http://www.espnfcasi...left-back-links
This was troubling for a number of reasons. Some fans felt the manager was covering up for the lack of squad investment by claiming he knew his left-back options were already sound -- a view certainly not shared by the majority of supporters.
At a time when the more likely scenario is more players leaving, supporters may look back on such uncertain times as the good old days.
Though it's arguable Klopp shouldn't need more players for a season with a greatly reduced workload, it may be fatal for a club to stand still while others -- already ahead of them anyway -- invest heavily.
Klopp joined in Oct last season and in the Jan window, he wasted no time to secure Grujic and Matip. This window is the first he had and his objective is to clear house. Keeping those he needs and moving on those he doesn't. If we look at the signings he made, they are clearly upgrades on those departed, either in terms of quality or suitability to his style.
Shared earlier that Klopp has managed to address all areas barring the LB and DM position. DM I roughly can guess he is waiting for the one he wants but LB, I am more clueless. He works with the players and if he feels that Milner can do the job there as LB, I shall not question his decision now. Will wait till end of season before commenting.
As a Pool fan, I am happy with this window, especially on the outgoing. Some really brilliant business there to recoup on those players he wants to shift. Incoming wise, I feel at least there is now a direction. FSG is trusting Klopp and Klopp repays them with his prudent spending for not spending.
If we look back at his tenure at BVB, his first window is also to clear house, shifting 10 over players out. So I can safely say this is how Klopp works, nothing to do with any hidden financial agenda.
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True. N even if they don need so many players due to lighter schedule,wat if they do qualify for europe next season? Only then they wanna look for players? By then, the new players will need time to gel. N it will b a disappointing season agn when the 1st team players get fatigue n new players unable to adapt quickly.
N then they will kancheong, sell the under performing players, buy a few more...n this repeat agn n agn. A team forever in rebuilding.
I believe when we do have European commitment next season, Klopp will just add on to the core he has built from this window. I will not be expecting wholesale changes made to the team. With all the money saved, next window could be massive if Klopp wants to strengthen. Not forgetting the potential incoming of the Chinese investment.
In gist, I believe our rebuilding is in this window, with the massive clear out of unwanted players. From here on, will be strengthening.
I stand corrected, but Klopp got his contract extended well before this transfer window started. So maybe balls got squeezed but can't cry out loud? ![[grin]](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/blogger_img_proxy/AEn0k_tCKphHQhCjL6OTEbiR2_oI4sMbz3nObdmf4Wwv571WUiyws9j9HB-lktgGjNyCRm_1nHsrPCWJCEX0ijKjhn5h6XWaF6ICMWPVccGG2ZddA9unFFHK_GqobVglmlgVqKMED-E=s0-d)
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Hehe then pardon me to correct you. Klopp extended contract on 8 July. Transfer window opens 1 Jul.I stand corrected, but Klopp got his contract extended well before this transfer window started. So maybe balls got squeezed but can't cry out loud?
As long as Bro O23 is happy with it, that is what really matters for each individual. After all as Shankly or Paisley said football is not life and death.........................................................................................................................it's more than that.
Lots of LFC detractors said their supporters are delusional.
I have to disagree.
They are just patient. After all patience is a great virtue. (sorry for the dig)
Also, when I say I am happy, I only speak for myself leh. I don't represent anyone else
Liverpool fans are generally the same as most others lah, we are all human beings. When we are optimistic, to others we might sound delusional. When we are trying to be patient, others say we lack of ambition.
Patience being a virtue coming from an Utd fan certainly sounds real. You guys showed great patience before SAF arrived on the big stage. So certainly justified to comment that.
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I stand corrected, but Klopp got his contract extended well before this transfer window started. So maybe balls got squeezed but can't cry out loud?
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pity us pool fans, right? how long hv we been patient?? at least u man u fans only need to b patient for 2 season...when moyes n lvg were managers. this season already looking good for u. while pool still finding their feet.
The thing is that we have identify players we wanted but somehow we are not going to pay extra premium for it. I agree paying crazy prices is not the way but certain gaps and some position determine win/lose thus the need to pay even we get chop like a Carrot
Football league is not unlike TV Drama, you need people (team) to play hero, villain, beauty, beast and crowd (also runs)
Hilarious conversation this morning with my die-hard Spuds supporting cuz... when I sent him the pic of all the players bought for over 100m using the Bale cash... and their status now
Newcastle want �30m for him.
Spurs offer �16m.
Levy vs Ashley.
Let's see who win
And you all still say have not replaced suarez
To be agonized, you need to have success first.... so how can spurs fans be in agony...lol
Just some friendly rivalry... mai angry hor
How to replace the best striker in the world?
[Ed Malyon, Mirror]
Spurs want Sissoko.
Newcastle want £30m for him.
Spurs offer £16m.
Levy vs Ashley.
Let's see who win
Levy is every chairman's dream. sell own lousy player for profit, then lowball good players from elsewhere.... Haha
Edited by Othello, 31 August 2016 - 08:16 PM.
How to replace the best striker in the world?
Well... it is after all a team game...
DEAL DONE: Stoke City have signed Wilfried Bony from Manchester City on a season-long loan. Stoke paid a loan fee of �2m
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Well... it is after all a team game...
True. But having a world class striker will make you a title contender from just a top 4 challenger.
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PSG would allow David Luiz to join Chelsea if they secure the signing of Rodrigo Caio.
Bruno Martins Indi to Stoke on loan
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This is a summer of "Home-coming"
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True. But having a world class striker will make you a title contender from just a top 4 challenger.
Agree... but that's why you have so many players to replace one
Would have been a good cover for Pool
It was a scattered gun approach bro. Once Sanchez rejected us for Arsenal, Pool given up on signing a direct replacement liao. The signings did not address any particular concerns, seems to me is like trying to get many in hopefully one or two will come good.Agree... but that's why you have so many players to replace one
That's why I like the way Pool conducting transfers now. Structured and decisive.
Edited by Osprey23, 31 August 2016 - 11:51 PM.
BREAKING: Jack Wilshere to sign for Bournemouth on loan. Arsenal rejected Roma, Palace think their bid over & focusing elsewhere.
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http://www.liverpool...m-deal-11825422
Pool recoup everything paid for him.
Balotelli moved to Nice on a free transfer.
Quite wide reported so may not be just rumour.
Chelski could be happy to have "loaned" him out to PSG for fitness and experince then have him back for a good profit.
Looks like the joke's on me instead. Really thought the Luiz back to Chelsea report was just paper talk but it's real haha! This guy has some good qualities but don't think he's a proper defender n to pay �32mil seems Abit high for his age.
Meanwhile Stoke seems to be winners this window getting good players like Bony n Indi added to their already good squad. Well done n good luck!!
13 EPL clubs broken their transfer records.
However, there is an obvious gulf in terms of spending power.
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wah so many loan deals
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always love it when the players come back to haunt the clubs that have loaned them out
Nvr heard of a player going on loan for more than 2yrs if not mistaken. Maybe Juve's way of conforming to FFP? Chelsea don't have to conform to FFP this season since they not in Europe so don't mind this arrangement I guess n obviously the loan fees Shld add up. No proof on this n my conjecture only.
wah so many loan deals
wonder if they have clauses that prevent the loaned players from playing against their mother clubs?
always love it when the players come back to haunt the clubs that have loaned them out
No need clause I think. EPL ruling stipulates that players on loan are not eligible to play against their parent clubs still holding to their registration.
Markovic completed loan deal to Sporting Lisbon.
Balotelli moved to Nice on a free transfer.
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the greatest joke or compliment �i heard is that this deal was so welcomed by pool fans that they would have gladly added Moreno as a add-on sweetener if Nice has problems accepting Balo on free lol :)�
Juan Cuadrado from Chelsea to Juve for 3 yr loan sounds strange to me.
Nvr heard of a player going on loan for more than 2yrs if not mistaken. Maybe Juve's way of conforming to FFP? Chelsea don't have to conform to FFP this season since they not in Europe so don't mind this arrangement I guess n obviously the loan fees Shld add up. No proof on this n my conjecture only.
Luiz is the strange one I feel. Firstly, when he went for �50m, it was super overpriced and now for no apparent reason, Chelsea resigned him. I have a feeling there is some "secret" arrangement between the clubs.
Free? wow... how low has that fellas stock fallen... wasn't he bought for 15m+?
This is Super Mario's last chance to redeem himself I think...
�16m. He has too many last chances liao. When Klopp who is known to enjoy developing players don't even bother to try, it is telling.
Look on the bright side, at least now Pool no longer has to pay �90kpw for nothing. This window really free up a huge chunk of wages. Let's see how Pool going to use that subsequently.
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Spurs really like to hijack other club's target.
Feeling quite sad for Everton. They had a private jet waiting for him at Newcastle but Sissoko was already on his way to London.
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Luiz is the strange one I feel. Firstly, when he went for �50m, it was super overpriced and now for no apparent reason, Chelsea resigned him. I have a feeling there is some "secret" arrangement between the clubs.
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With window closed and imminent closing of this thread, wish to share an article on soccernet on true transfer costs of:
http://www.espnfcasi...cost-man-united
Not just for these 2 MU players but it applies across the board for all transfers in general.
Thanks, this is the cost players are to clubs. For fans, usually they just look at fees paid.
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Some would say 3 in 1, centre forward as well.
Feeling quite sad for Everton. They had a private jet waiting for him at Newcastle but Sissoko was already on his way to London.
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I don't think this type of mercenary player is one for the future. Always having his heart with another club. Better for Everton to look elsewhere.
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Yes... tough for Everton and Koeman that he pulled out in the last minute... really unethical of the player to renege on a deal... switching off his phone when the jet was ready to pick him up, etc.
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I don't think this type of mercenary player is one for the future. Always having his heart with another club. Better for Everton to look elsewhere.
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i find the Luiz deal beyond comprehension too and it was also highlighted by many others. ��
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I think it's really an attempt to replace John Terry who is surely into his last season. Perhaps the defensive-minded Conte can work some magic into Luiz and helped him become a real defender for once? only time will tell. �
john �terry say last season last season, for at least 2 - 3 season liao??
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till now he is still the best performing cb for chel. if his form last the whole season.�
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very likely have another last season.
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after all he is not known for his speed.
Saints are Pool's unofficial appointed scouts.. you dun noe meh lol
both clubs have very similar playing styles.. so you can imagine the players attractions.
Unofficial feeder club I think.
Waiting eagerly for us to host them at Anfield.
With window closed and imminent closing of this thread,� wish to share an article on soccernet on true transfer costs of:
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http://www.espnfcasi...cost-man-united
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Not just for these players but it applies across the board for all transfers in general.
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One interesting point that many of us may not know:
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The past two years, Liverpool have spent around �100 million on Southampton players but have earned one fewer league point than the Saints over that period (123 versus 122).
imagine if pool had not bought those players fm them...pool will b 100m richer n hv more points!!!�
Unofficial feeder club I think.
Waiting eagerly for us to host them at Anfield.
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the next saint player to score at anfield will get a contract waiting for him after the game :)�
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transfer fee no issue
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no wonder the saint players so motivated every time they play pool�
the other headline for pool is that Sakho refused to take a timeout and go out on loan.�
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i think this is not going down well with Klopp and the hierarchy for sure. �
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�he might see much (if any) game time unless the other center backs get injured or suspended concurrently... �
Edited by Fooblack, 01 September 2016 - 09:52 AM.
the next saint player to score at anfield will get a contract waiting for him after the game :)�
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transfer fee no issue
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no wonder the saint players so motivated every time they play pool�
the other headline for pool is that Sakho refused to take a timeout and go out on loan.�
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i think this is not going down well with Klopp and the hierarchy for sure. �
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�he might see much (if any) game time unless the other center backs get injured or suspended concurrently... �
i hope this is his way of saying that he is sorry, will change n will fight to regain klopp's trust. n if he n the club is professional enough, i hope klopp gives him another chance.�
imagine if pool had not bought those players fm them...pool will b 100m richer n hv more points!!!
Not sure about �100m. Lambert �4m, Lallana �25m, Lovren �20m, Clyne �12.5m.
Can't possibly add in Mane's fee now right?
http://www.transferm.../saison_id/2016
For those interested can take a look at the above link for the transfers of all EPL clubs this summer.
Pool nett spending at �600k
. City beats Utd to the top of the spending table while Southampton topped the profit table.
Has been quite a interesting window with many home coming players. Window closed and now excitement back to the pitch.
Thanks all for the sharing, contribution, view and bantering :)
Last post from me here.
http://www.transferm.../saison_id/2016
For those interested can take a look at the above link for the transfers of all EPL clubs this summer.
Pool nett spending at �600k
City beats Utd to the top of the spending table while Southampton topped the profit table.
Has been quite a interesting window with many home coming players. Window closed and now excitement back to the pitch.
Thanks all for the sharing, contribution, view and bantering :)
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See you in 6 month time
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