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New Harrier Japan part 2

  • 09 July 2014 - 03:25 PM
    Quantum

    Thanks for the useful information, think you r right abt the pedal/speed relationship and the low rpm when cruising.


    now i understand.


    anyway so�many estimas on SG road since 2006, and recently alphard/vellfires, and all CVT, so oklah new Harrier for reliability...

    if the CVT comes from Japanese, don't worry about reliability,


  • 11 July 2014 - 10:08 AM
    Davidtch

    I juz saw 1 unit of Harrier this morning.� It is a very nice looking car as compared to RX.

    But

    it looks smaller than previous Harrier/RX as well as current RX.


  • 11 July 2014 - 10:10 AM
    Duckduck

    I juz saw 1 unit of Harrier this morning.� It is a very nice looking car as compared to RX.

    But

    it looks smaller than previous Harrier/RX as well as current RX.

    yes it looks like its based on the current rav4, not RX. lexus learnt from last time mistake n made a totally different body from toyota lol


    Edited by Duckduck, 11 July 2014 - 10:11 AM.

  • 11 July 2014 - 10:23 AM
    Quantum

    thinking I have to change my traditional concept liao, have to accept "SUV" only FWD,

    due to�oil going to dry up about 50 years, fuel saving�become SUV's top function instead of off-road performance, Now less and less�AWD SUV in the market,

    I don't understand since accept FWD, why still buy SUV, sedan is enough


  • 11 July 2014 - 10:29 AM
    Tohto

    Check on it during the Cats carnival at EXPO.

    The dashboard material look and feel good.

    But I was very dissappointed on the rear seat space. NO so big, plus the rear seat bench width seems to be very small. 3 adult sitting there will not be very comfortable. The tight support was also feel a bit short.

    Obviously the old version base on RX will have a much much comfortable seat.


    Edited by Tohto, 11 July 2014 - 10:30 AM.

  • 11 July 2014 - 10:52 AM
    Davidtch

    thinking I have to change my traditional concept liao, have to accept "SUV" only FWD,

    due to�oil going to dry up about 50 years, fuel saving�become SUV's top function instead of off-road performance, Now less and less�AWD SUV in the market,

    I don't understand since accept FWD, why still buy SUV, sedan is enough

    This is my fav Toyota SUV

    http://toyota.jp/fjc..._top&ptopid=men

    In Sgcarmart, only Vincar is importing it.

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  • 11 July 2014 - 11:16 AM
    Duckduck

    This is my fav Toyota SUV

    http://toyota.jp/fjc..._top&ptopid=men

    In Sgcarmart, only Vincar is importing it.

    this one the road tax n FC will makan u dry lol


  • 11 July 2014 - 11:26 AM
    Rayoflight

    i saw this car in US, very retro looking! i tot it was some 1980s toyota


  • 11 July 2014 - 12:05 PM
    Quantum

    This is my fav Toyota SUV

    http://toyota.jp/fjc..._top&ptopid=men

    In Sgcarmart, only Vincar is importing it.

    this SUV is quite popular in Mid-east,

    other than this, Landcruiser &�Lexus LX570 are the most common ride, like Altis and Jetta in Singapore [:p]


  • 11 July 2014 - 02:14 PM
    Milleo

    http://www.sgcarmart...=414116&DL=2015

    wah so fast got seller


  • 11 July 2014 - 04:22 PM
    Stratovarius

    This is my fav Toyota SUV

    http://toyota.jp/fjc..._top&ptopid=men

    In Sgcarmart, only Vincar is importing it.

    If i remember correctly, Toyota is going to stop production for this model due to poor sales.


  • 11 July 2014 - 04:57 PM
    Yaloryalor

    http://www.sgcarmart...=414116&DL=2015

    wah so fast got seller

    Wow really so fast!

    Can go test drive this unit. hahaha


  • 11 July 2014 - 05:28 PM
    Davidtch

    If i remember correctly, Toyota is going to stop production for this model due to poor sales.

    That's a sad news.


  • 11 July 2014 - 10:56 PM
    Rayoflight

    think thats a showroom unit..

    brand new..


  • 14 July 2014 - 10:19 AM
    Davidtch

    Saw Lexus NX on ST last Saturday.� It looks similar to Harrier on the backside.� Maybe that's the fair comparison btw Harrier & Lexus NX.


  • 14 July 2014 - 11:49 AM
    gasman

    Saw Lexus NX on ST last Saturday.� It looks similar to Harrier on the backside.� Maybe that's the fair comparison btw Harrier & Lexus NX.

    Davidtch hi

    Ive also read about the NX.

    You think the NX would have better specs & performance than the Harrier since both are on 2.0?

    Cant wait for the pricing to tilt my judgment.

    Thanks & cheers.


  • 14 July 2014 - 11:58 AM
    Davidtch

    Davidtch hi

    Ive also read about the NX.

    You think the NX would have better specs & performance than the Harrier since both are on 2.0?

    Cant wait for the pricing to tilt my judgment.

    Thanks & cheers.

    2.0 NA vs 2.0 Turbo

    CVT vs 6 spd AT.

    In term of pricing, i think it should be in the price range of IS250.


  • 16 July 2014 - 08:24 AM
    Cychua
    I'm very interested in this model.
    But after doing a search in SGCARMART used car section, I got a shock to see the list of used car selling.

    http://m.sgcarmart.c...C=&OWN_C=&ASL=1

    5 selling within 3 months.
    Is there something wrong with this car?
  • 16 July 2014 - 08:53 AM
    Watwheels

    I'm very interested in this model.
    But after doing a search in SGCARMART used car section, I got a shock to see the list of used car selling.

    http://m.sgcarmart.c...C=&OWN_C=&ASL=1

    5 selling within 3 months.
    Is there something wrong with this car?

    Most likely buyer's loan not approved but COE bidding successful LL have to register within 3 months. Most of them are from different PI anyway.


  • 16 July 2014 - 09:11 AM
    alphard96

    Most likely buyer's loan not approved but COE bidding successful LL have to register within 3 months. Most of them are from different PI anyway.

    Possible.

    However, i think those are "new" cars, posted in "used" cars to get more potential buyers of used car to buy new.


  • 16 July 2014 - 09:34 AM
    gasman

    Most likely buyer's loan not approved but COE bidding successful LL have to register within 3 months. Most of them are from different PI anyway.

    Highly doubt it about the loan thingy but possible.

    Some PIs offered me 90% financing but the 5 year loan quantum remains.

    Wonder if its indeed something not right about this car. And yes, one can finally�go test drive it.

    Still going to wait for the NX200 before plunging.


  • 16 July 2014 - 09:51 AM
    Davidtch

    I'm very interested in this model.
    But after doing a search in SGCARMART used car section, I got a shock to see the list of used car selling.

    http://m.sgcarmart.c...C=&OWN_C=&ASL=1

    5 selling within 3 months.
    Is there something wrong with this car?

    It could also be that the car:

    1. No pwr

    2. Not used to driving CVT


  • 16 July 2014 - 10:10 AM
    Soya

    It could also be that the car:

    1. No pwr

    2. Not used to driving CVT

    2L NA + CVT + big body = S-L-O-W.� [sleeping][sleeping][sleeping]


  • 16 July 2014 - 10:32 AM
    Davidtch

    2L NA + CVT + big body = S-L-O-W.� [sleeping][sleeping][sleeping]

    There are ppl in this thread says that 2.4L Alphard with CVT not slow le [bounce1]


  • 16 July 2014 - 10:33 AM
    Soya

    There are ppl in this thread says that 2.4L Alphard with CVT not slow le [bounce1]

    not slow compared to what....?�


  • 16 July 2014 - 10:40 AM
    Davidtch

    not slow compared to what....?�

    I don't know le.

    I said a million & 1 time.� No body listen.�

    The message i got is:

    Harrier 2L CVT $170k is more worth it that RX 270 (which 100k more).�


  • 16 July 2014 - 10:45 AM
    Watwheels

    There are ppl in this thread says that 2.4L Alphard with CVT not slow le [bounce1]

    On paper 0-100km/hr sprint is 11.9s. Real world should be 12+ secs.

    If that's fast to them nothing more to comment lah. If other mpv similar makes sprint the same timing dan it must be "quite fast" lor. LoL...


    Edited by Watwheels, 16 July 2014 - 10:46 AM.

  • 16 July 2014 - 10:56 AM
    Davidtch

    On paper 0-100km/hr sprint is 11.9s. Real world should be 12+ secs.

    If that's fast to them nothing more to comment lah. If other mpv similar makes sprint the same timing dan it must be "quite fast" lor. LoL...

    That's based on driver only.

    How about 2 adults + 3 children or 5 adults?

    In real world, it will be 2.3 - 2.4 tonne.� How to achieve 12s?

    0-100km/h is BS number.� What is important in real life how fast could it overtake another vehicles (i.e. 50 - 100km/h).� It will be SLOW.


  • 16 July 2014 - 10:57 AM
    alphard96

    On paper 0-100km/hr sprint is 11.9s. Real world should be 12+ secs.

    If that's fast to them nothing more to comment lah. If other mpv similar makes sprint the same timing dan it must be "quite fast" lor. LoL...

    Possibly, it is considered "fast" as it�has almost similar century sprint figures or not slower than bread butter cars like altis

    I think stream and odyssey similar performance figures too.


    There are ppl in this thread says that 2.4L Alphard with CVT not slow le [bounce1]

    perhaps at NS highway, can regularly see estima/alphard that cruises at 150-180km/hr


  • 16 July 2014 - 10:59 AM
    Meanmachine

    New Volvo XC90 2.0L will be even better car than Harrier, i suppose w/o a shadow volvo lovers will give it a shot, despite many face-lifted Xc in the past, now it's even better wif 2.oL engine


  • 16 July 2014 - 11:04 AM
    Davidtch

    Possibly, it is considered "fast" as it�has almost similar century sprint figures or not slower than bread butter cars like altis

    I think stream and odyssey similar performance figures too.


    perhaps at NS highway, can regularly see estima/alphard that cruises at 150-180km/hr

    2.4L or 3.5L?

    Cruising does not means fast.� How fast 2.4L could overtake from 100km/h back to 150km/h with 7 adults?


  • 16 July 2014 - 11:04 AM
    Soya

    On paper 0-100km/hr sprint is 11.9s. Real world should be 12+ secs.

    If that's fast to them nothing more to comment lah. If other mpv similar makes sprint the same timing dan it must be "quite fast" lor. LoL...

    0-100 sprint is quite academic. The proof of the pudding is in the torque and overtaking ability. On a big, heavy 2L NA wif CVT, u juz gonna get lots of noise and gradual (aka slow) acceleration.�


  • 16 July 2014 - 09:54 PM
    Cychua

    Possible.

    However, i think those are "new" cars, posted in "used" cars to get more potential buyers of used car to buy new.


    Was comparing one of the Dealers. Doesn't appear to be cheaper than new car.
    1)
    Used car list price - $153k
    New car list price - $149k (although it's 6 bid COE)

    2) I will be the 2nd Owner out from the parking lot

    3)
    Interest rate on used car - 2.28%
    Interest rate on new car - 1.88%??
  • 17 July 2014 - 12:04 PM
    alphard96

    Was comparing one of the Dealers. Doesn't appear to be cheaper than new car.
    1)
    Used car list price - $153k
    New car list price - $149k (although it's 6 bid COE)

    2) I will be the 2nd Owner out from the parking lot

    3)
    Interest rate on used car - 2.28%
    Interest rate on new car - 1.88%??

    wow, i dont know that.

    good info, thanks.

    everyone should know this.

    agree, better get the new one than.


  • 17 July 2014 - 02:11 PM
    Yaloryalor

    Was comparing one of the Dealers. Doesn't appear to be cheaper than new car.
    1)
    Used car list price - $153k
    New car list price - $149k (although it's 6 bid COE)

    2) I will be the 2nd Owner out from the parking lot

    3)
    Interest rate on used car - 2.28%
    Interest rate on new car - 1.88%??

    Are these really used cars? Maybe the PI brought in for potential buyers to test drive at the same time see if can really sell it away? [laugh][laugh]


  • 18 July 2014 - 06:54 AM
    Cychua

    Are these really used cars? Maybe the PI brought in for potential buyers to test drive at the same time see if can really sell it away? [laugh][laugh]


    Whether it is really a used car or not I believe the 3 things still apply since it has been registered.
  • 11 August 2014 - 03:04 PM
    Finclk

    Used models being on sale so fast doesn't sound too good. But i'm really considering this fella.


  • 11 August 2014 - 08:28 PM
    Throttle2

    Aiya, we live in a city. How fast you want to go?

    The new 2.0L Harrier have 155bhp. More than enough.


    Only 155bhp?
    Like a motorcycle....
    Such a big car should at least be 200++bhp

    I drove 2.4liter SUV in australia also felt so slow.
    No power to go on straights and no power to chiong up hill.
  • 17 August 2014 - 12:11 AM
    beef331994

    Hi,

    me and my dad are considering the car for family use. Im quite a newbie to these things, from what i read it seems most of you guys think that the car is underpowered? Would you all be kind enough to elaborate what it means to be underpowered?

    Thanks


    Oh,

    I am also curious as to what colours do you guys choose for this new harrier


  • 17 August 2014 - 06:01 AM
    redcat

    Hi,

    Just booked a Black Pearl Harrier from one of the PI.


  • 17 August 2014 - 10:35 AM
    Quantum

    Hi,

    me and my dad are considering the car for family use. Im quite a newbie to these things, from what i read it seems most of you guys think that the car is underpowered? Would you all be kind enough to elaborate what it means to be underpowered?

    Thanks


    Oh,

    I am also curious as to what colours do you guys choose for this new harrier

    specify 'underpowered' is quite subjective, if you are 'chiong' guy, even give 500bhp�also not enough, if you only�use the�vehicle for�general�driving, Harrier power is decent, Japenes car normally understated performance, go and test driving, to experience for youself.

    for colour, white is�better,�it can enlarge�image


  • 17 August 2014 - 10:38 AM
    Thaiyotakamli
    For city driving, such power should be enough to go up mt faber hehe
  • 17 August 2014 - 11:06 AM
    beef331994
    Thanks for the help!
  • 17 August 2014 - 02:11 PM
    Cmos196

    Hi,

    Just booked a Black Pearl Harrier from one of the PI.

    Which PI you bought from ?

    can share the price, package and etc.........

    Any PI is reliable, the price range is huge from SGcarmart.........


  • 17 August 2014 - 03:17 PM
    Ronleo

    Which PI you bought from ?
    can share the price, package and etc.........

    Any PI is reliable, the price range is huge from SGcarmart.........


    U might wanna check out richburg. Apparently they have their own ws.

    Pricing wise competitive.
  • 17 August 2014 - 06:19 PM
    Davidtch

    For city driving, such power should be enough to go up mt faber hehe

    Sure or not?

    I would like to take a ride up Mt Faber.


  • 17 August 2014 - 06:44 PM
    Thaiyotakamli


    Sure or not?

    I would like to take a ride up Mt Faber.


    Even a picanto can climb mt faber. If passenger to many then one or two must go down and push so add 2 horse power to the engine [laugh]
  • 17 August 2014 - 06:50 PM
    Xover

    Why did sgcarmart put the kerb wt as 1885kg?

    Shouldnt it be 1560kg for the grand to 1610kg for the premium ?

    http://toyota.jp/har...c/gasoline/2wd/


  • 18 August 2014 - 12:08 AM
    beef331994

    Hi,

    Sorry to side track abit, but may i know what is the largest or recommended rim size if i would like to upsize this rims? I was actually thinking 19


  • 18 August 2014 - 08:54 AM
    Quantum

    Even a picanto can climb mt faber. If passenger to many then one or two must go down and push so add 2 horse power to the engine [laugh]

    if the 2 guy can contribute 2bhp, then they should be extreme strong :D


  • 18 August 2014 - 12:27 PM
    Bahbah

    i'm looking for this as my next ride.

    hopefully to see more feedback of this car here.

    i'm really skeptical about the FC according to the engine vs vehicle weight .

    seems too unbelivable


  • 18 August 2014 - 03:03 PM
    beef331994

    i'm looking for this as my next ride.
    hopefully to see more feedback of this car here.

    i'm really skeptical about the FC according to the engine vs vehicle weight .
    seems too unbelivable


    The fuel efficiency looks awesome at 16. Hopefully it performs like 14 with full load
  • 18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM
    Quantum

    i'm looking for this as my next ride.

    hopefully to see more feedback of this car here.

    i'm really skeptical about the FC according to the engine vs vehicle weight .

    seems too unbelivable

    it's CVT, FC should be much better than�tranditional AT,

    don't think it's can achive 16km/l in Singapore traffic condiftion,�12km/L should be realistic�


  • 18 August 2014 - 03:53 PM
    Finclk

    this car also has the i-stop technology (or similar) to the new Mazda 6. I think most of the new cars have this now. Hence the ability to increase FC savings.


  • 18 August 2014 - 05:09 PM
    redcat

    it's CVT, FC should be much better than�tranditional AT,

    don't think it's can achive 16km/l in Singapore traffic condiftion,�12km/L should be realistic�

    Yes, according to my dealer, he mentioned that a few owners that took delivery of the Harrier claimed the FC is around 12km/l.


  • 18 August 2014 - 10:26 PM
    Xover

    Yes, according to my dealer, he mentioned that a few owners that took delivery of the Harrier claimed the FC is around 12km/l.

    After comparing amongst the sellers, is there any big difference in pricing?
    maybe the diff in pricing is just the stuff the give?
    or the cheaper ones are used cars to be imported here? �


    Edited by Xover, 18 August 2014 - 10:35 PM.

  • 18 August 2014 - 11:13 PM
    redcat

    After comparing amongst the sellers, is there any big difference in pricing?
    maybe the diff in pricing is just the stuff the give?
    or the cheaper ones are used cars to be imported here? �

    There is a dealer that placed ad in the paper at up to 10k cheaper than others, their tactic is to get people to go down to their showroom. End of day, the final price is about the same as others. Better to check on the review for each PI before u commit.


  • 18 August 2014 - 11:53 PM
    Soho

    http://www.sgcarmart...=421836&DL=2290

    1 month "new" car for S$137k? with all the lane departure�18" Alloy Wheel, Cruise Control, Automatic High Beam, Powered Tilt And Telescopic Steering, Power Back Door, Electric Sunroof.

    Am i missing anything?

    What is the cheapest anyone had gotten here?


  • 19 August 2014 - 08:45 AM
    redcat

    http://www.sgcarmart...=421836&DL=2290

    1 month "new" car for S$137k? with all the lane departure�18" Alloy Wheel, Cruise Control, Automatic High Beam, Powered Tilt And Telescopic Steering, Power Back Door, Electric Sunroof.

    Am i missing anything?

    What is the cheapest anyone had gotten here?

    Too good to be true......


  • 19 August 2014 - 08:56 AM
    alphard96

    I have good experience with Richburg motors, their cars have�some unique features/accessories installed.� They also ensure my car passed inspection 3 yrs down the road by replacing the rear tinted mirrors to LTA approved/authorised agent standard.

    However, i dont think i got a "good price" as I'm not good at bargaining, relatively much more expensive than other PI.


    but appreciate that i can service at Borneo motors and was given a car�manual in English


  • 19 August 2014 - 12:05 PM
    Bahbah

    I have good experience with Richburg motors, their cars have�some unique features/accessories installed.� They also ensure my car passed inspection 3 yrs down the road by replacing the rear tinted mirrors to LTA approved/authorised agent standard.

    However, i dont think i got a "good price" as I'm not good at bargaining, relatively much more expensive than other PI.


    but appreciate that i can service at Borneo motors and was given a car�manual in English

    bro don't mind share with us how much you've gotten your ride from richburg?

    i'm also thinking to giving them a visit in a month or two� are we able to test drive the car ?

    i'm more concern about the handling and pickup of this harrier. currently driving a CL7A which is going to scrap next year.

    hopefully the performance is more or less on par


  • 19 August 2014 - 03:22 PM
    Xover

    i'm more concern about the handling and pickup of this harrier. currently driving a CL7A which is going to scrap next year.

    hopefully the performance is more or less on par


    Maybe some SUVs performer gooder for you

    Audi Q5
    225 bhp 350 nm

    Forester XT�
    240 bhp 350 nm


    Pls dont choose the Harrier. � its a old man car
    Young drivers please choose other cars ok�


  • 19 August 2014 - 03:40 PM
    gasman

    Let me share my Harrier experience at Vincar Ubi.

    To skip the whole story, i will dive straight into the financial conversation.

    I asked the ah beng salesman, matter of factly, so what is the financial obligations?

    He told me, ok, new car you must pay 50% downpayment because we are regulated by MAS. Yeah right. Which i said to him, can i use my preferred bank? He said cannot. Must use their "in house loan" and they offer 2.88% which is what other banks' rates are. I said to him, what if i want to use my own bank? Ah beng told me, "can, but you must pay us $4,000 as rebate fee or something" I asked him why? Since there's no incentive to me if i use your in house loan.

    You know what ah beng said to me? Because we are regulated by MAS. WTF! Brilliant answer.

    And by the way, must use their preferred insurer as well if not they will charge you for "loss of their business" fee.

    Anyway, thought i share this amusing experience�with everyone. Its not to belittle anyone (esp Vincar)�in the car business but it shows how unregulated & unprofessional this industry has become. There's so many potholes one has to navigate just to buy a car.


  • 19 August 2014 - 04:37 PM
    Davidtch

    Let me share my Harrier experience at Vincar Ubi.

    To skip the whole story, i will dive straight into the financial conversation.

    I asked the ah beng salesman, matter of factly, so what is the financial obligations?

    He told me, ok, new car you must pay 50% downpayment because we are regulated by MAS. Yeah right. Which i said to him, can i use my preferred bank? He said cannot. Must use their "in house loan" and they offer 2.88% which is what other banks' rates are. I said to him, what if i want to use my own bank? Ah beng told me, "can, but you must pay us $4,000 as rebate fee or something" I asked him why? Since there's no incentive to me if i use your in house loan.

    You know what ah beng said to me? Because we are regulated by MAS. WTF! Brilliant answer.

    And by the way, must use their preferred insurer as well if not they will charge you for "loss of their business" fee.

    Anyway, thought i share this amusing experience�with everyone. Its not to belittle anyone (esp Vincar)�in the car business but it shows how unregulated & unprofessional this industry has become. There's so many potholes one has to navigate just to buy a car.

    When did car industry ever being regulated?

    It is normal that dealers earn back the discount given via other source of income.

    Strictly speaking, 50% downpayment.� I went thru it.


  • 19 August 2014 - 07:52 PM
    Cmos196

    wow...... thanks for sharing.

    Even Vincar looks normal but still many tricks there .............

    How about "Zion Auto Gallery" ? their price quoted in SGcarmart is very competitive.

    Let me share my Harrier experience at Vincar Ubi.

    To skip the whole story, i will dive straight into the financial conversation.

    I asked the ah beng salesman, matter of factly, so what is the financial obligations?

    He told me, ok, new car you must pay 50% downpayment because we are regulated by MAS. Yeah right. Which i said to him, can i use my preferred bank? He said cannot. Must use their "in house loan" and they offer 2.88% which is what other banks' rates are. I said to him, what if i want to use my own bank? Ah beng told me, "can, but you must pay us $4,000 as rebate fee or something" I asked him why? Since there's no incentive to me if i use your in house loan.

    You know what ah beng said to me? Because we are regulated by MAS. WTF! Brilliant answer.

    And by the way, must use their preferred insurer as well if not they will charge you for "loss of their business" fee.

    Anyway, thought i share this amusing experience�with everyone. Its not to belittle anyone (esp Vincar)�in the car business but it shows how unregulated & unprofessional this industry has become. There's so many potholes one has to navigate just to buy a car.


    Forester XT�is one of my pocket list until I found some engine issues from Taiwan website.................so bye bye lo....

    Maybe some SUVs performer gooder for you

    Audi Q5
    225 bhp 350 nm

    Forester XT�
    240 bhp 350 nm


    Pls dont choose the Harrier. � its a old man car
    Young drivers please choose other cars ok�


  • 19 August 2014 - 09:47 PM
    Power69

    wow...... thanks for sharing.
    Even Vincar looks normal but still many tricks there .............

    How about "Zion Auto Gallery" ? their price quoted in SGcarmart is very competitive.




    Forester XT�is one of my pocket list until I found some engine issues from Taiwan website.................so bye bye lo....



  • 21 August 2014 - 09:38 AM
    Soho

    http://www.sgcarmart...=421836&DL=2290

    1 month "new" car for S$137k? with all the lane departure�18" Alloy Wheel, Cruise Control, Automatic High Beam, Powered Tilt And Telescopic Steering, Power Back Door, Electric Sunroof.

    Am i missing anything?

    What is the cheapest anyone had gotten here?

    Wah lai liao lai liao.. same car within a few days from S$137k jump to S$163k...


  • 21 August 2014 - 04:23 PM
    Finclk

    guys.. just wait for COE to dfrop for next year. The supply will surely come. only a question of how much more. i'm confident we can see 40k plus COE, even 30k plus.


  • 21 August 2014 - 06:08 PM
    Geneviean

    I have good experience with Richburg motors, their cars have�some unique features/accessories installed.� They also ensure my car passed inspection 3 yrs down the road by replacing the rear tinted mirrors to LTA approved/authorised agent standard.

    However, i dont think i got a "good price" as I'm not good at bargaining, relatively much more expensive than other PI.


    but appreciate that i can service at Borneo motors and was given a car�manual in English

    hi alphard96

    You mean the dealer give you a harrier 2014 manual in english? I also waiting for my 2014 harrier but dealer say no english manual.

    can you share the manual... will really appreciate that :)


  • 21 August 2014 - 06:32 PM
    Marcostan

    hi alphard96

    You mean the dealer give you a harrier 2014 manual in english? I also waiting for my 2014 harrier but dealer say no english manual.

    can you share the manual... will really appreciate that :)

    Harrier is JDM and it's only sale in Japan market and not selling to other countries.

    How can they have manual in ENGLISH if the product is mean to sell domestic only??????


  • 21 August 2014 - 08:06 PM
    Keira

    I have good experience with Richburg motors, their cars have�some unique features/accessories installed.� They also ensure my car passed inspection 3 yrs down the road by replacing the rear tinted mirrors to LTA approved/authorised agent standard.

    However, i dont think i got a "good price" as I'm not good at bargaining, relatively much more expensive than other PI.


    but appreciate that i can service at Borneo motors and was given a car�manual in English

    Are you sure that their PI toyotas can service at Borneo motors? I thought Borneo Motor will reject PI toyotas because you are not buying from their showroom.

    [sly]


  • 21 August 2014 - 08:21 PM
    Davidtch

    Are you sure that their PI toyotas can service at Borneo motors? I thought Borneo Motor will reject PI toyotas because you are not buying from their showroom.

    [sly]

    Before Richburg set up their own ws.


  • 22 August 2014 - 12:59 AM
    Yaloryalor

    guys.. just wait for COE to dfrop for next year. The supply will surely come. only a question of how much more. i'm confident we can see 40k plus COE, even 30k plus.


    If $30k Coe then harrier will sell about $130k. Sounds good! Lol
  • 22 August 2014 - 12:21 PM
    alphard96

    hi alphard96

    You mean the dealer give you a harrier 2014 manual in english? I also waiting for my 2014 harrier but dealer say no english manual.

    can you share the manual... will really appreciate that :)

    Bought alphard from Richburg.


    sorry for the confusion


  • 26 September 2014 - 04:53 PM
    bingkok

    Hi All Bro,

    My wife and i are now considering getting this Harrier Premium model.

    The price range in sgcarmart show quite a huge difference...

    Parallel Importer like Volks Auto selling $155 000

    and JDM Cars $155 888 with gurantee without top up.

    While other PI selling Premium model at $160K++�

    Anyone here deal with Volks Auto or JDM Cars before?

    Care to share with me your experience?

    Btw, what is gurantee without top up???


    Bought alphard from Richburg.


    sorry for the confusion

    Hi Bro, can to share with me how much u bought your Harrier???

    and what is the model??

    Understand from current market there are model like Grand, Elegant, Premium and Premium with Advance package...�

    Quite confuse...

    So far any comment abt this car??

    How is the fuel consumption?


  • 27 September 2014 - 01:46 AM
    beef331994

    Hi All Bro,

    My wife and i are now considering getting this Harrier Premium model.

    The price range in sgcarmart show quite a huge difference...

    Parallel Importer like Volks Auto selling $155 000

    and JDM Cars $155 888 with gurantee without top up.

    While other PI selling Premium model at $160K++�

    Anyone here deal with Volks Auto or JDM Cars before?

    Care to share with me your experience?

    Btw, what is gurantee without top up???


    Hi Bro, can to share with me how much u bought your Harrier???

    and what is the model??

    Understand from current market there are model like Grand, Elegant, Premium and Premium with Advance package...�

    Quite confuse...

    So far any comment abt this car??

    How is the fuel consumption?

    Hi,

    I'm quite new to the scene too but i give some advice according to my own experience so it might be wrong. This could fill in before the more experienced members answer.

    I believe harrier now more ex with COE hitting 71k, so you are probably looking at 160k for the elegance model.

    Grand is the most basic model then elegance, premium and premium advance
    Singapore's most common models are the elegance and the premium.
    the difference can be found here: http://toyota.jp/har...gasoline/photo/
    this is the most basic differences between the different gasoline models (grand vs elegance vs premium vs premium advance)

    One thing to note, some PI do request additional stuff from the factory when ordering the car. I noticed that sun/moon roof is not a standard on all car models and some PIs add them in but some do not. This will be accounted in the price of the car as well.

    PI have also informed me that fuel consumption will be abit lower than those stated on the website but i have no real life experience with it so i cannot offer you concrete information.


  • 27 September 2014 - 04:02 PM
    bingkok
    Anyone deal with these 2 PI before??? Any feedback???
    JDM Car Pte Ltd
    Volks Auto pte Ltd???
    Anyone can recommend or not look for...
    Not experience to deal with PI. So kinda feeling insecurity toward them... Lol

    Might going down to see the car and ask for the price...
  • 29 September 2014 - 10:29 AM
    gasman

    Understand from current market there are model like Grand, Elegant, Premium and Premium with Advance package...�

    Hi

    Can advice what is included in the PREMIUM with ADVANCE package?

    Thanks!


  • 29 September 2014 - 10:40 AM
    Damon-_-
     


    Are you sure that their PI toyotas can service at Borneo motors? I thought Borneo Motor will reject PI toyotas because you are not buying from their showroom.
    [sly]

     

    If I'm not wrong Richburg they are authorized Toyota agent in Hongkong maybe they have their ways about doing things. Not sure about the authenticity though....

    Anyone deal with these 2 PI before??? Any feedback???
    JDM Car Pte Ltd
    Volks Auto pte Ltd???
    Anyone can recommend or not look for...
    Not experience to deal with PI. So kinda feeling insecurity toward them... Lol

    Might going down to see the car and ask for the price...

    I would recommend buying only from Case Trust accredited Company. At least you know the company had been vetted by Casetrust and are genuinely doing business on the long run and not the "hit and run" business.

    You can compare price but ultimately cheap does not always mean its the best deal if you know what i meant....


  • 30 September 2014 - 02:23 AM
    Geneviean

    elegance: 17" rim, no cruise control, no electric tailgate

    premium cost about $7k more: 18" rim, cruise control, electric tailgate

    the other diff are in the interior fitting like leather doors, etc.

    go for guranteed coe without top up for peace of mind.

    there are many literature about the tricks PI play, equip yourself with these tricks and you will know how to counter them.�

    Hi All Bro,

    My wife and i are now considering getting this Harrier Premium model.

    The price range in sgcarmart show quite a huge difference...

    Parallel Importer like Volks Auto selling $155 000

    and JDM Cars $155 888 with gurantee without top up.

    While other PI selling Premium model at $160K++�

    Anyone here deal with Volks Auto or JDM Cars before?

    Care to share with me your experience?

    Btw, what is gurantee without top up???


    Hi Bro, can to share with me how much u bought your Harrier???

    and what is the model??

    Understand from current market there are model like Grand, Elegant, Premium and Premium with Advance package...�

    Quite confuse...

    So far any comment abt this car??

    How is the fuel consumption?


  • 30 September 2014 - 09:19 AM
    bingkok
    Thanks for all brothers advice.

    Went down to see at Ubi. The premium come with leather seat and leather dashboard.
    Price rang 163-167k. With roof opening.

    Very stylo design. But then some with electric seat on front passenger some without, but are under premium model.

    Maybe go down to Turf club and see see look look.. Price range is quite huge difference..
    I check online jap website. It should come with JBL entertainment system.. But PI don have????
  • 30 September 2014 - 11:00 AM
    Meanmachine

    New Harrier is a nice car to drive, less problematic and easy on servicing, Uncle or non-uncle car does not worry me, most importantly is happy with FC and maintenance, look at past history of used Harrier, thy still pack a punch after resale market.

    Mind you, many motorists are buying used Harrier ( mod lexus RX300/350/450 ), even car dealer/s are surprised by such move, historically speaking they are P.I. cars so i dun see any reason why after 5-8 yrs old Harrier can drop so much, given the relatively OMV of 27-30K and generally upkeep, it's definitely light on your pocket as compared to others SUV.

    If you're smart enough and can wait a little longer, i hearsay someone in the car industry, COE will drop south soon . . .� [bounce2]


  • 30 September 2014 - 03:11 PM
    Nethdale

    New Harrier is a nice car to drive, less problematic and easy on servicing, Uncle or non-uncle car does not worry me, most importantly is happy with FC and maintenance, look at past history of used Harrier, thy still pack a punch after resale market.

    Mind you, many motorists are buying used Harrier ( mod lexus RX300/350/450 ), even car dealer/s are surprised by such move, historically speaking they are P.I. cars so i dun see any reason why after 5-8 yrs old Harrier can drop so much, given the relatively OMV of 27-30K and generally upkeep, it's definitely light on your pocket as compared to others SUV.

    If you're smart enough and can wait a little longer, i hearsay someone in the car industry, COE will drop south soon . . .� [bounce2]

    Well said and as long you are happy and is within your means, go ahead. �

    The main issue now is with LTA as every single car from PI needs to be inspected by LTA, a silly policy launched recently by the top. �LTA seems slow in inspection and its administrative. �Unlike the agent cars, AD only needs to send in one for inspection (aka homologation), the subsequent similar models will be exempted. �With the new inspection, as someone mentioned in the thread before, now it takes at least 2 to 3 months to get your car. �Kind of piss off with this LTA. �


  • 01 October 2014 - 12:45 AM
    bingkok
    I am now monitoring the Coe. Though a lot ppl said coe will release more due more cars will be scrap for October qtr... Hopefully the quota increase..

    Cos my worry is if LTA the quota remain the same and those Coe expiring will need to bid for new Coe.. It wil create another grp of demands. Well let see tmr bidding result.".
  • 08 October 2014 - 04:44 PM
    Genting

    Just picked up our Harrier (Premium) about 30 mins ago from Prime Cars at Ubi. �Good and responsive PI - look for Andy. �Gave a good trade in for our 4-year old BMW X1. �

    BMW was drinking petrol...so HAD to change.

    Nice, quite comfortable drive. �Happy!!!

    Don't get sucked into all the conti�propaganda...."been there, done that" !!!


  • 08 October 2014 - 04:58 PM
    Davidtch

    Just picked up our Harrier (Premium) about 30 mins ago from Prime Cars at Ubi. �Good and responsive PI - look for Andy. �Gave a good trade in for our 4-year old BMW X1. �

    BMW was drinking petrol...so HAD to change.

    Nice, quite comfortable drive. �Happy!!!

    Don't get sucked into all the conti�propaganda...."been there, done that" !!!

    Piang ah!!� Buy BMW still complain drinking petrol.

    Thanks for selling BMW.


  • 08 October 2014 - 05:40 PM
    bingkok
    Bro Genting, care to share how much you pay for the Harrier???
    Your premium come with Dual Electric chair???
  • 09 October 2014 - 10:09 AM
    Nethdale

    Just picked up our Harrier (Premium) about 30 mins ago from Prime Cars at Ubi. �Good and responsive PI - look for Andy. �Gave a good trade in for our 4-year old BMW X1. �

    BMW was drinking petrol...so HAD to change.

    Nice, quite comfortable drive. �Happy!!!

    Don't get sucked into all the conti�propaganda...."been there, done that" !!!

    Hi Genting,

    Hope you can share with me by PM me when did you book the car from Prime Cars? �My neck is getting longer as each day passed. �Looking forward to hearing from you.


  • 09 October 2014 - 05:23 PM
    Genting

    Hi Genting,

    Hope you can share with me by PM me when did you book the car from Prime Cars? �My neck is getting longer as each day passed. �Looking forward to hearing from you.

    �Booked about 3 months ago. �Fixed COE....but stock availability is an issue. �So, I am not surprised at your delay.

    Topped up S$450 to upgrade Pioneer system, and S$850 for Titan Cool & Lite shades, and S$65 for "3M" mat for boot area. �


  • 09 October 2014 - 08:24 PM
    Car_byte

    Just picked up our Harrier (Premium) about 30 mins ago from Prime Cars at Ubi. �Good and responsive PI - look for Andy. �Gave a good trade in for our 4-year old BMW X1. �

    BMW was drinking petrol...so HAD to change.

    Nice, quite comfortable drive. �Happy!!!

    Don't get sucked into all the conti�propaganda...."been there, done that" !!!

    Can share some nice pic of your ride here?

    anyway congrats on your new ride [bounce2]


  • 10 October 2014 - 08:28 AM
    redcat

    �Booked about 3 months ago. �Fixed COE....but stock availability is an issue. �So, I am not surprised at your delay.

    Topped up S$450 to upgrade Pioneer system, and S$850 for Titan Cool & Lite shades, and S$65 for "3M" mat for boot area. �

    Hi,

    How much did u bought your Harrier from Prime?


  • 10 October 2014 - 09:18 AM
    Nethdale

    �Booked about 3 months ago. �Fixed COE....but stock availability is an issue. �So, I am not surprised at your delay.

    Topped up S$450 to upgrade Pioneer system, and S$850 for Titan Cool & Lite shades, and S$65 for "3M" mat for boot area. �

    Hi Genting,

    Thank you for your prompt reply. �At least I know that they did not short-change me since you have booked your car 3 months ago. �My case is due the long period of inspection at LTA, at least according to Prime Cars. �Nowadays, buying car from PI needs minimum at least 2 months to get your car; 3 months would be on the safe side - all thanks to LTA's inspection issue and perhaps also due to stock availability.

    By the way about your "3M" mat for boot area, can share where did you get it? I intend to get it from Kaki Bukit area, something called 3A car mat,�when I get my c---a---r. �


  • 10 October 2014 - 11:42 AM
    Genting

    Hi Genting,

    Thank you for your prompt reply. �At least I know that they did not short-change me since you have booked your car 3 months ago. �My case is due the long period of inspection at LTA, at least according to Prime Cars. �Nowadays, buying car from PI needs minimum at least 2 months to get your car; 3 months would be on the safe side - all thanks to LTA's inspection issue and perhaps also due to stock availability.

    By the way about your "3M" mat for boot area, can share where did you get it? I intend to get it from Kaki Bukit area, something called 3A car mat,�when I get my c---a---r. �

    I was lazy...just asked Prime to arrange the boot mat. �Quite reasonable...at S$65.... huge piece of mat. �Also since the car comes with the basic in-cabin mats...better to let the same supplier do the boot mat....otherwise color tones won't match.�


    Hi,

    How much did u bought your Harrier from Prime?

    with 50% loan it was about S$148 to 149K....if no loan, add S$ 3k - guaranteed COE at that point in time (abt 2-3 mths ago)

    white color...add s$1k


  • 10 October 2014 - 11:45 AM
    Thaiyotakamli


    Hi Genting,

    Thank you for your prompt reply. �At least I know that they did not short-change me since you have booked your car 3 months ago. �My case is due the long period of inspection at LTA, at least according to Prime Cars. �Nowadays, buying car from PI needs minimum at least 2 months to get your car; 3 months would be on the safe side - all thanks to LTA's inspection issue and perhaps also due to stock availability.

    By the way about your "3M" mat for boot area, can share where did you get it? I intend to get it from Kaki Bukit area, something called 3A car mat,�when I get my c---a---r. �


    3A cheaper than 3M and doesnt long last like 3M

    I was lazy...just asked Prime to arrange the boot mat. �Quite reasonable...at S$65.... huge piece of mat. �Also since the car comes with the basic in-cabin mats...better to let the same supplier do the boot mat....otherwise color tones won't match.�

    with 50% loan it was about S$148 to 149K....if no loan, add S$ 3k - guaranteed COE at that point in time (abt 2-3 mths ago)
    white color...add s$1k


    Hows the power like?

    I think petrol fc worse than X1
  • 10 October 2014 - 11:49 AM
    Chowyunfatt

    Hi Genting,

    Thank you for your prompt reply. �At least I know that they did not short-change me since you have booked your car 3 months ago. �My case is due the long period of inspection at LTA, at least according to Prime Cars. �Nowadays, buying car from PI needs minimum at least 2 months to get your car; 3 months would be on the safe side - all thanks to LTA's inspection issue and perhaps also due to stock availability.

    By the way about your "3M" mat for boot area, can share where did you get it? I intend to get it from Kaki Bukit area, something called 3A car mat,�when I get my c---a---r. �

    A Boot Liner is more useful for an SUV since your vehicle does not have a 3rd row ...� [nod]

    reargear_rx300.jpg


  • 10 October 2014 - 11:59 AM
    Genting

    3A cheaper than 3M and doesnt long last like 3M

    Hows the power like?

    I think petrol fc worse than X1

    The mats provided are 3M copies but decent...dunno how long it'll last....but ok la!!

    Still easing the car in....more pleasant to drive than my 4 yr old X1. �On tap power not as powerful as Q3 1.4...that's very sprightly!! �But that is a very compact cabin. �

    At the showroom - the Harrier did not feel big....but now, after taking delivery - it's a monster in size....body is bigger than Q5 or X5....it's just BIG!!!

    The cabins lack storage compartments, and lack cigarette lighter for USB charges at the back. �Even the position for front charges could be better. �But a very quiet car. �Original speakers without additional subwoofer are decent.

    As for FC, still on my first tank. �The tank is quite small - with 50km left, I went to pump a full tank of 95...cost me only $85....old car would cost S$110 with all the discounts. �Waiting for second tank to calculate mileage. �BUT, I am confident that it will better the old car.....will feed back next week.


  • 10 October 2014 - 12:04 PM
    Thaiyotakamli

    The mats provided are 3M copies but decent...dunno how long it'll last....but ok la!!

    Still easing the car in....more pleasant to drive than my 4 yr old X1. �On tap power not as powerful as Q3 1.4...that's very sprightly!! �But that is a very compact cabin. �

    At the showroom - the Harrier did not feel big....but now, after taking delivery - it's a monster in size....body is bigger than Q5 or X5....it's just BIG!!!

    The cabins lack storage compartments, and lack cigarette lighter for USB charges at the back. �Even the position for front charges could be better. �But a very quiet car. �Original speakers without additional subwoofer are decent.

    As for FC, still on my first tank. �The tank is quite small - with 50km left, I went to pump a full tank of 95...cost me only $85....old car would cost S$110 with all the discounts. �Waiting for second tank to calculate mileage. �BUT, I am confident that it will better the old car.....will feed back next week.


    Probably bigger than Q5 but not X5. Cabin size is generous unlike Q3 or Q5.

    But hows the drive? Does it feel bloating? The steering light? Is it like normal toyota? Or lexus?
  • 10 October 2014 - 12:14 PM
    Genting

    Probably bigger than Q5 but not X5. Cabin size is generous unlike Q3 or Q5.

    But hows the drive? Does it feel bloating? The steering light? Is it like normal toyota? Or lexus?

    Lol....my previous ride was an entry level car (...there lies the problem!!) - the steering was like navigating a tank...but I was told that it is the "BMW road feel".....

    Anyway, this new car is so much better, and the turning circle is surprisingly smaller. �Steering is light - similar to Q3 - NOT speed assisted. �I am sure that it would be comparable to a Camry type....dunno about Lexus.


  • 10 October 2014 - 12:19 PM
    Davidtch

    Lol....my previous ride was an entry level car (...there lies the problem!!) - the steering was like navigating a tank...but I was told that it is the "BMW road feel".....

    Anyway, this new car is so much better, and the turning circle is surprisingly smaller. �Steering is light - similar to Q3 - NOT speed assisted. �I am sure that it would be comparable to a Camry type....dunno about Lexus.

    The steering feels like navigating a tank is normal BMW hydraulic steering feel.� Not everyone can handle it.

    The upside is it stays straight even 150km/h


  • 10 October 2014 - 12:43 PM
    Kman08

    The steering feels like navigating a tank is normal BMW hydraulic steering feel.� Not everyone can handle it.

    The upside is it stays straight even 150km/h

    I think its not the case of not being able to handle it but rather the lifestyle we have in sg a car with a lighter feel is more welcome. After work you just want something easy comfy and light. I love drivers cars and have always owned cars that allowed a keener sense of driving. But most days after work I would prefer a simpler drive...


  • 10 October 2014 - 12:59 PM
    Genting

    I think its not the case of not being able to handle it but rather the lifestyle we have in sg a car with a lighter feel is more welcome. After work you just want something easy comfy and light. I love drivers cars and have always owned cars that allowed a keener sense of driving. But most days after work I would prefer a simpler drive...

    [thumbsup][thumbsup][thumbsup][thumbsup]


  • 10 October 2014 - 03:12 PM
    Nethdale

    I was lazy...just asked Prime to arrange the boot mat. �Quite reasonable...at S$65.... huge piece of mat. �Also since the car comes with the basic in-cabin mats...better to let the same supplier do the boot mat....otherwise color tones won't match.�


    with 50% loan it was about S$148 to 149K....if no loan, add S$ 3k - guaranteed COE at that point in time (abt 2-3 mths ago)

    white color...add s$1k

    Understand the car comes with in-cabin mats, are you saying that it's similar material like those "3M" car mat? �Well, if it does't, I am fine with it as I intend to get a lighter colour, maybe white for the boot mat. �Luckily, they did not charge 1K for white colour.


  • 10 October 2014 - 03:37 PM
    Davidtch

    I think its not the case of not being able to handle it but rather the lifestyle we have in sg a car with a lighter feel is more welcome. After work you just want something easy comfy and light. I love drivers cars and have always owned cars that allowed a keener sense of driving. But most days after work I would prefer a simpler drive...

    Cannot handle, say cannot handle lah.� Don't use lifestyle as an excuse.

    By the way, i cycle to work daily.� Which one is more taxing?


  • 10 October 2014 - 03:49 PM
    Thaiyotakamli

    Lol....my previous ride was an entry level car (...there lies the problem!!) - the steering was like navigating a tank...but I was told that it is the "BMW road feel".....

    Anyway, this new car is so much better, and the turning circle is surprisingly smaller. �Steering is light - similar to Q3 - NOT speed assisted. �I am sure that it would be comparable to a Camry type....dunno about Lexus.


    Bmw steering indeed heavy tried the 5 series '09 macam tank also

    Steering too light not good at high speed


    This one 0-100 got 10 sec?
  • 10 October 2014 - 04:14 PM
    Kman08

    Cannot handle, say cannot handle lah.� Don't use lifestyle as an excuse.

    By the way, i cycle to work daily.� Which one is more taxing?

    If you say so.... To each their own......

    How you transport yourself is really your problem. If you wanted to crawl I� cant stop you.

    I have my own set of choices :).


    I must say the harriers good looks are really growing on me. I think its good that it does not try to emulate the lexus.


  • 10 October 2014 - 05:06 PM
    Davidtch

    If you say so.... To each their own......

    How you transport yourself is really your problem. If you wanted to crawl I� cant stop you.

    I have my own set of choices :).


    I must say the harriers good looks are really growing on me. I think its good that it does not try to emulate the lexus.

    Toyota Harrier = Lexus NX.

    Other than 2L turbo, all other drivetrain is wholesale moved to Lexus NX.

    Harrier nowadays command the presence of Harrier of yesteryears.


  • 10 October 2014 - 10:05 PM
    bingkok


    A Boot Liner is more useful for an SUV since your vehicle does not have a 3rd row ...� [nod]

    reargear_rx300.jpg


    This is not 2014 harrier.... This is older version...
  • 10 October 2014 - 11:34 PM
    Chowyunfatt

    This is not 2014 harrier.... This is older version...

    I was just trying to show an example.

    Edited by Chowyunfatt, 10 October 2014 - 11:35 PM.

  • 11 October 2014 - 03:18 AM
    Geneviean

    hi Genting

    The price difference can be so huge from what Prime listed in sgcarmart? I think Prime listed $10k more about 2-3 mths back?

    I also booked in around the same time but still waiting for shipment.

    I was lazy...just asked Prime to arrange the boot mat. �Quite reasonable...at S$65.... huge piece of mat. �Also since the car comes with the basic in-cabin mats...better to let the same supplier do the boot mat....otherwise color tones won't match.�


    with 50% loan it was about S$148 to 149K....if no loan, add S$ 3k - guaranteed COE at that point in time (abt 2-3 mths ago)

    white color...add s$1k


  • 11 October 2014 - 10:38 AM
    bingkok
    Hi bro, what is the model that you purchase?
    Understand there is 3 models. But I think some PI they customize or name it different way. But the price also difference a lot.
  • 11 October 2014 - 05:09 PM
    Mazdaseller

    Hi all, having bought a drove the harrier for 5 months, let me share a few things so all have a clearer picture of the car. The variant i bought is the 2.0L premium version and comes full-specced except pre-collision warning and electric passenger seat.

    First up, the Harrier is no RX and toyota took great pains to make this point across and it's apparent. The upcoming NX is based on the Harrier, it even shares part of the instrument cluster display on the NX. The Harrier is smaller than the RX abit, bigger than Q5, so this gives you abit perspective on the dimensions.

    Secondly, if you are changing from a car which is turbocharged to the new Harrier, then you definitely will find the power underwhelming. It is afterall a very heavy car with only 155BHP. However, if you are coming from a 2L N.A. car previously, then you will not feel too laggy as the CVT does a very good job of pulling it's weight very efficiently. Just like some bros here commented that the 2.4L engine on the vellfire or alphard somehow makes the vehicle nimble and not laggy. However, do not expect to be first off the line when green light comes on. In real-world situations, all 2.0 N.A. SUVs will have more or less the same acceleration and anything below that, the Harrier can pull in front most times. However, if you are the kind that cannot accept being 2nd in a drag race, then this is not the car for you. Even the 270 RX will feel sluggish as that car is even slower to pickup than the Harrier. The part that the Harrier excels in is it's cornering, this came as a surprise to me as well, the handling of this car is very good and i came from driving a Mazda 6 which had excellent handling.

    Thirdly, this should be no surprise, the cabin is plush! Everywhere is soft material and even the door panels (all four) are padded leather with the Harrier logo. Cabin noise is low and there are thick foams all around the car. I bent down on my drivers side to look at the silencing material and you can see a 3/4" thick sound absorbing material beneath the carpet, covering the entire base of the car. I popped out the cover on the passenger leg space there to access the fuse and it is even padded with foam! There is a very soothing blue LED cabin/mood (not ah beng type) light that will illuminate both front passenger and driver's leg space, the lining of the glove compartment to the push start button as well as both interior front door handles. All four power windows are auto, not only the driver side. Also, with the door locked, whenever you are near your car in a dimly-lit area, the side windows will light up the area below it as you approach the car. At this point, i would like to point out one disappointing part about the Harrier. The car horn sounds like an Altis, very high pitch but this can be easily solved by swapping on an aftermarket car horn. Safety features abound, 7 airbags, auto RPM lock and when travelling, all doors are unable to unlock meaning kids wont accidentally open the door and auto tailgate as well, wont open

    Lastly, real-world FC is 12.5-14km/L, with 40% city driving and 60% highway. You can really stretch this FC further if you make use of the different drive modes and also the engine stop/start. For example, when you are in a jam on the expressway and moving very slowly, put it into ECO mode and when cruising, also in ECO mode will save you lots of fuel in long run. And yes, the engine stop/start uses the Panasonic car battery. This is a very handsome looking car and will attract drifting eyes to admire it, so get used to it if you bought one.

    Before i bought the Harrier, i test drove a number of SUVs, Forrester XT, Tiguan, CX5, Rav4, CRV and here is what i think of these cars when compared to the Harrier.

    If you want the best bang for your buck, no other SUV comes close to the Forrester XT in that price range, and you can feel it! You can also feel it in the FC, with real world FC at 7-8km/L (pop on to the Subaru forum). The Forrest XT also has a tiny display panel and makes for very hard viewing, with the panel situated in the center instead of behind the steering wheel. Tiguan is just small and not practical with a very small boot space and screams cheap plastic all around, but has self-park option and good turbo engine. Rav4 is smaller and feels not as upmarket but comes with 7 airbags, however i strongly feel not worth to purchase as its same price as Harrier. CRV has a worse FC, good interior but unless you need 4WD, then you are also paying for something you wont engage. My 2nd choice would be the Mazda CX5, not because it does exceptionally well in any one department, but it does above average in all departments.�

    Hope I've helped.


  • 11 October 2014 - 05:45 PM
    Quantum

    Secondly, if you are changing from a car which is turbocharged to the new Harrier, then you definitely will find the power underwhelming. It is afterall a very heavy car with only 155BHP. However, if you are coming from a 2L N.A. car previously, then you will not feel too laggy as the CVT does a very good job of pulling it's weight very efficiently. Just like some bros here commented that the 2.4L engine on the vellfire or alphard somehow makes the vehicle nimble and not laggy. However, do not expect to be first off the line when green light comes on. In real-world situations, all 2.0 N.A. SUVs will have more or less the same acceleration and anything below that, the Harrier can pull in front most times. However, if you are the kind that cannot accept being 2nd in a drag race, then this is not the car for you. Even the 270 RX will feel sluggish as that car is even slower to pickup than the Harrier. The part that the Harrier excels in is it's cornering, this came as a surprise to me as well, the handling of this car is very good and i came from driving a Mazda 6 which had excellent handling.

    thanks for you comprehensive review,

    don't understand how come CVT can compensate the lack of power as you mentioned above,

    in general understanding, CVT< AT<MT


  • 11 October 2014 - 06:03 PM
    Mazdaseller

    thanks for you comprehensive review,

    don't understand how come CVT can compensate the lack of power as you mentioned above,

    in general understanding, CVT< AT<MT

    Therein lies the common misconception from "I heard him say, I heard my friend say".... If you are speaking purely on power or acceleration, then in-depth understanding of the CVT will clear things up. I quote:

    "Engines do not develop constant power at all speeds; they have specific speeds where torque (pulling power), horsepower (speed power) or fuel efficiency are at their highest levels. Because there are no gears to tie a given road speed directly to a given engine speed, the CVT can vary the engine speed as needed to access maximum power as well as maximum fuel efficiency. This allows the CVT to provide quicker acceleration than a conventional automatic or manual transmission while delivering superior fuel economy.Flooring an automatic car brings a lurch and a sudden burst of power, whereas CVTs provide a smooth, rapid increase to maximum power. To some drivers this makes the car feel slower, when in fact a CVT will generally out-accelerate an automatic." -http://cars.about.co...oknow/a/CVT.htm


    Edited by Mazdaseller, 11 October 2014 - 06:04 PM.

  • 12 October 2014 - 01:38 PM
    Cmos196

    good review...............

    thank you !

    Hi all, having bought a drove the harrier for 5 months, let me share a few things so all have a clearer picture of the car. The variant i bought is the 2.0L premium version and comes full-specced except pre-collision warning and electric passenger seat.

    First up, the Harrier is no RX and toyota took great pains to make this point across and it's apparent. The upcoming NX is based on the Harrier, it even shares part of the instrument cluster display on the NX. The Harrier is smaller than the RX abit, bigger than Q5, so this gives you abit perspective on the dimensions.

    Secondly, if you are changing from a car which is turbocharged to the new Harrier, then you definitely will find the power underwhelming. It is afterall a very heavy car with only 155BHP. However, if you are coming from a 2L N.A. car previously, then you will not feel too laggy as the CVT does a very good job of pulling it's weight very efficiently. Just like some bros here commented that the 2.4L engine on the vellfire or alphard somehow makes the vehicle nimble and not laggy. However, do not expect to be first off the line when green light comes on. In real-world situations, all 2.0 N.A. SUVs will have more or less the same acceleration and anything below that, the Harrier can pull in front most times. However, if you are the kind that cannot accept being 2nd in a drag race, then this is not the car for you. Even the 270 RX will feel sluggish as that car is even slower to pickup than the Harrier. The part that the Harrier excels in is it's cornering, this came as a surprise to me as well, the handling of this car is very good and i came from driving a Mazda 6 which had excellent handling.

    Thirdly, this should be no surprise, the cabin is plush! Everywhere is soft material and even the door panels (all four) are padded leather with the Harrier logo. Cabin noise is low and there are thick foams all around the car. I bent down on my drivers side to look at the silencing material and you can see a 3/4" thick sound absorbing material beneath the carpet, covering the entire base of the car. I popped out the cover on the passenger leg space there to access the fuse and it is even padded with foam! There is a very soothing blue LED cabin/mood (not ah beng type) light that will illuminate both front passenger and driver's leg space, the lining of the glove compartment to the push start button as well as both interior front door handles. All four power windows are auto, not only the driver side. Also, with the door locked, whenever you are near your car in a dimly-lit area, the side windows will light up the area below it as you approach the car. At this point, i would like to point out one disappointing part about the Harrier. The car horn sounds like an Altis, very high pitch but this can be easily solved by swapping on an aftermarket car horn. Safety features abound, 7 airbags, auto RPM lock and when travelling, all doors are unable to unlock meaning kids wont accidentally open the door and auto tailgate as well, wont open

    Lastly, real-world FC is 12.5-14km/L, with 40% city driving and 60% highway. You can really stretch this FC further if you make use of the different drive modes and also the engine stop/start. For example, when you are in a jam on the expressway and moving very slowly, put it into ECO mode and when cruising, also in ECO mode will save you lots of fuel in long run. And yes, the engine stop/start uses the Panasonic car battery. This is a very handsome looking car and will attract drifting eyes to admire it, so get used to it if you bought one.

    Before i bought the Harrier, i test drove a number of SUVs, Forrester XT, Tiguan, CX5, Rav4, CRV and here is what i think of these cars when compared to the Harrier.

    If you want the best bang for your buck, no other SUV comes close to the Forrester XT in that price range, and you can feel it! You can also feel it in the FC, with real world FC at 7-8km/L (pop on to the Subaru forum). The Forrest XT also has a tiny display panel and makes for very hard viewing, with the panel situated in the center instead of behind the steering wheel. Tiguan is just small and not practical with a very small boot space and screams cheap plastic all around, but has self-park option and good turbo engine. Rav4 is smaller and feels not as upmarket but comes with 7 airbags, however i strongly feel not worth to purchase as its same price as Harrier. CRV has a worse FC, good interior but unless you need 4WD, then you are also paying for something you wont engage. My 2nd choice would be the Mazda CX5, not because it does exceptionally well in any one department, but it does above average in all departments.�

    Hope I've helped.


  • 23 October 2014 - 01:45 PM
    david111
    This is an excellent choice if you're looking for a luxurious SUV at this price range. Gonna book a unit soon.
  • 23 October 2014 - 01:47 PM
    sknight
    Hi all

    Just placed an order for this. Does anyone know where I can buy strut bar and under brace for this new model?

    Also any recommended place to do sound proofing?
  • 23 October 2014 - 05:15 PM
    Ultra536
    Nice car
  • 23 October 2014 - 05:27 PM
    Davidtch

    Hi all

    Just placed an order for this. Does anyone know where I can buy strut bar and under brace for this new model?

    Also any recommended place to do sound proofing?

    The car already underpower.� Still 1 to add weight?

    Jialat liao.


  • 23 October 2014 - 06:43 PM
    Nethdale

    Hi all

    Just placed an order for this. Does anyone know where I can buy strut bar and under brace for this new model?

    Also any recommended place to do sound proofing?


    Hi, congratulates on your booking. Can share which PI did you order from and when are you getting the car? I am very sian and moody as I have been waiting for the delivery since Sep > Oct > maybe early Nov??? Just cross my fingers.
  • 23 October 2014 - 07:44 PM
    sknight
    Haha. True it is under power but want to minimise body flex. These weight is minimum compared to doing sound proofing.

    Haha. Thanks for the advices. Just itchy.
  • 23 October 2014 - 08:04 PM
    Bacteria83
    Just saw one at the car park, really quite nice :)
  • 23 October 2014 - 08:15 PM
    Chowyunfatt
    Is it me or is this new Harrier smaller than the Older Model ...
  • 23 October 2014 - 08:20 PM
    Davidtch

    Is it me or is this new Harrier smaller than the Older Model ...

    It is smaller as it is based on RAV4.


  • 23 October 2014 - 08:22 PM
    Chowyunfatt


    It is smaller as it is based on RAV4.


    Ahhhh ... Sou Ka ... Thank you ...
  • 24 October 2014 - 09:26 AM
    sknight

    Ahhhh ... Sou Ka ... Thank you ...


    My friend have the previous model Harrier and we placed it next to each other. The previous model body is rounder while the new is sleeker. And yes interior for the new is slightly smaller but not by much.

    However handling for new is slightly better with lesser role and not as bouncy. Power for new is 10 bhp lesser due to the economy engine.
  • 24 October 2014 - 09:43 AM
    Quantum

    My friend have the previous model Harrier and we placed it next to each other. The previous model body is rounder while the new is sleeker. And yes interior for the new is slightly smaller but not by much.

    However handling for new is slightly better with lesser role and not as bouncy. Power for new is 10 bhp lesser due to the economy engine.

    old�Harrier extremely similar as Lexus RX, I cannot tell the different if don't see the badge :D


  • 24 October 2014 - 10:06 AM
    Davidtch

    old�Harrier extremely similar as Lexus RX, I cannot tell the different if don't see the badge :D

    It is the same car except for the badge.

    The same will be say about NX & Harrier.�


  • 24 October 2014 - 10:10 AM
    Karu

    Nice kar chng if you ask me...Not so keen on the grille though.


  • 24 October 2014 - 10:19 AM
    Chowyunfatt

    My friend have the previous model Harrier and we placed it next to each other. The previous model body is rounder while the new is sleeker. And yes interior for the new is slightly smaller but not by much.

    However handling for new is slightly better with lesser role and not as bouncy. Power for new is 10 bhp lesser due to the economy engine.

    I used to own the Previous Model RX300 ...�

    One of the things that bothered me most was the Width of the Tires ...

    The RX300 was rather Big & Rounded ... So if you look from the back ... It was a rather big car with skinny tires ... Kind of like a Fat Man with Skinny Legs ...�


  • 24 October 2014 - 10:30 AM
    sknight
    [quote name="Davidtch" post="5321742" timestamp="1414116412"

    It is the same car except for the badge.

    The same will be say about NX & Harrier.�
    �[/quote]

    There is an optional grille with night light. Haha.

    Edited by sknight, 24 October 2014 - 10:34 AM.

  • 24 October 2014 - 10:59 AM
    Genes

    I used to own the Previous Model RX300 ...�

    One of the things that bothered me most was the Width of the Tires ...

    The RX300 was rather Big & Rounded ... So if you look from the back ... It was a rather big car with skinny tires ... Kind of like a Fat Man with Skinny Legs ...�

    Thats why change to van with stouter legs right? :P


  • 24 October 2014 - 11:02 AM
    Thaiyotakamli


    I used to own the Previous Model RX300 ...�

    One of the things that bothered me most was the Width of the Tires ...

    The RX300 was rather Big & Rounded ... So if you look from the back ... It was a rather big car with skinny tires ... Kind of like a Fat Man with Skinny Legs ...�


    But this model very good, reliable and practical


    Agree about the leg, should be more muscular
  • 24 October 2014 - 11:04 AM
    Genes

    The car already underpower.� Still 1 to add weight?

    Jialat liao.

    After that add one turbo then all settle liao mah [laugh]


  • 24 October 2014 - 11:45 AM
    Davidtch

    After that add one turbo then all settle liao mah [laugh]

    Are you sure engine & GB can take it??


  • 24 October 2014 - 11:47 AM
    Genes

    Are you sure engine & GB can take it??

    Go TRD ask them do their sorcery with it, maybe? lol


  • 24 October 2014 - 11:47 AM
    Davidtch

    Go TRD ask them do their sorcery with it, maybe? lol

    Honestly, TRD is bulls**t.

    The real magic is always done by Yamaha.


  • 24 October 2014 - 12:01 PM
    Genes

    Honestly, TRD is bulls**t.

    The real magic is always done by Yamaha.

    [laugh] [laugh]


  • 24 October 2014 - 12:36 PM
    Chowyunfatt


    Thats why change to van with stouter legs right? :P


    Never really bothered to check the tyre size on my van ... Left it stock ...

    But this model very good, reliable and practical


    Agree about the leg, should be more muscular


    No problems during my ownership ... Very comfortable ... Very reliable

    I remember another issue ... Very light steering ... A bit scary on NSHW when cross winds come ...
  • 24 October 2014 - 01:57 PM
    Genes

    Never really bothered to check the tyre size on my van ... Left it stock ...

    No problems during my ownership ... Very comfortable ... Very reliable

    I remember another issue ... Very light steering ... A bit scary on NSHW when cross winds come ...

    Important that it don't look like fat man on skinny legs mah!


  • 24 October 2014 - 02:40 PM
    Chowyunfatt


    Important that it don't look like fat man on skinny legs mah!


    Commercial Vehicles nvm lar ...
  • 24 October 2014 - 02:47 PM
    Thaiyotakamli

    Never really bothered to check the tyre size on my van ... Left it stock ...

    No problems during my ownership ... Very comfortable ... Very reliable

    I remember another issue ... Very light steering ... A bit scary on NSHW when cross winds come ...


    Yes first gen and second gen steering very light above 100

    3rd gen steering more heavy
  • 26 October 2014 - 09:35 PM
    Marler123

    Anyone deal with these 2 PI before??? Any feedback???
    JDM Car Pte Ltd
    Volks Auto pte Ltd???
    Anyone can recommend or not look for...
    Not experience to deal with PI. So kinda feeling insecurity toward them... Lol

    Might going down to see the car and ask for the price...

    I just placed my unit with Volks. Look for Simon.

    Price for premium includes Pioneer system (USB, reverse parking, GPS, etc). FULL Leather and panaramic roof and white.


  • 26 October 2014 - 10:55 PM
    bingkok


    I just placed my unit with Volks. Look for Simon.
    Price for premium includes Pioneer system (USB, reverse parking, GPS, etc). FULL Leather and panaramic roof and white.


    Bro Marler123, can share with me privately how much u purchase?
    Come in dual electric seat and auto high beam??
    Does it Come in sonar pre-crush?

    Very gam xia if u can provide me with more detail....
  • 27 October 2014 - 09:24 AM
    sknight
    Yeah. Fantastic! More Harrier on the roads. Looking forward to collecting mine in 2 to 3 weeks time.
  • 27 October 2014 - 10:41 AM
    Marler123

    Bro Marler123, can share with me privately how much u purchase?
    Come in dual electric seat and auto high beam??
    Does it Come in sonar pre-crush?

    Very gam xia if u can provide me with more detail....

    Hi Bro Bingkok, just sent you message.

    Just to share my experience, I did comparison�in the last 3 months on various models, considering handling, power, price, reliability, comfort, etc.

    So finally I shortlist to CX5 and Harrier. I made the final decision on Harrier after having myself and my family sit in both cars. For sure the CX5 will have more "zoom", but the Harrier is not too bad. Question that I asked myself that made me decide on Harrier is how often I would "zoom" (overtake, speed) vs how often I would enjoy the comfort and the interior. So the answer is obvious. Not having zoom is good too, as it prevent me from "zoom", just got a speeding ticket for exceeding 20Km above speed limit, 6 demerit points and 150SGD. There are a lot of hidden cameras around....

    Let me know if any of you want feedback and recommendation on who to buy from.


    Edited by Marler123, 27 October 2014 - 10:48 AM.

  • 27 October 2014 - 01:50 PM
    LPK00

    Hi Bro Bingkok, just sent you message.

    Just to share my experience, I did comparison�in the last 3 months on various models, considering handling, power, price, reliability, comfort, etc.

    So finally I shortlist to CX5 and Harrier. I made the final decision on Harrier after having myself and my family sit in both cars. For sure the CX5 will have more "zoom", but the Harrier is not too bad. Question that I asked myself that made me decide on Harrier is how often I would "zoom" (overtake, speed) vs how often I would enjoy the comfort and the interior. So the answer is obvious. Not having zoom is good too, as it prevent me from "zoom", just got a speeding ticket for exceeding 20Km above speed limit, 6 demerit points and 150SGD. There are a lot of hidden cameras around....

    Let me know if any of you want feedback and recommendation on who to buy from.

    Hi Marler123,

    May I know how much deposit (booking fee) is required by Volks?


    Edited by LPK00, 27 October 2014 - 01:50 PM.

  • 29 October 2014 - 09:02 AM
    bingkok
    Anyone is driving Barrier this car can help???
    I understand that Harrier had this power mode and eco mode which allow on and off in front of the gear box there....
    Beside FC, does the power mode make any difference when is on???

    Cos currently My 2006 altis also have this button, ECT Power (Electronic Control Transmission Power), press or not, I don see any changes in performance. Not sure what is does.. Lol..
  • 29 October 2014 - 09:46 AM
    gasman

    I just placed my unit with Volks. Look for Simon.

    Price for premium includes Pioneer system (USB, reverse parking, GPS, etc). FULL Leather and panaramic roof and white.

    Bro Marler

    Can u also pm me privately the purchase price?

    Any other�freebies�thrown in by Volks? eg solar film etc

    Thanks mate


  • 29 October 2014 - 10:23 AM
    Genting

    Anyone is driving Barrier this car can help???
    I understand that Harrier had this power mode and eco mode which allow on and off in front of the gear box there....
    Beside FC, does the power mode make any difference when is on???

    Cos currently My 2006 altis also have this button, ECT Power (Electronic Control Transmission Power), press or not, I don see any changes in performance. Not sure what is does.. Lol..

    On my very first tank (ie brand new car)...purely on Eco mode....achieved 15km/l (SPC 95)

    Second & third tanks (playing a bit with Eco mode on and off...achieved 13.8 km/l...suspect that the next tank will come in at 12.5km/l. �A bit disappointing, but acceptable given the size of the car....any feedback re brands of petrol??�

    The car feels livelier with Eco mode OFF ..... of course at the expense of FC. �Now, I will drive with it OFF, and only turn it on when I am cruising on highway

    As for Power Mode - yes, there is a "big" difference with you turn it on ..... but this is relative!!

    My only complaint is that the silly buttons are on the dash board....should have been placed in the steering wheel area


  • 29 October 2014 - 10:45 AM
    Chowyunfatt

    On my very first tank (ie brand new car)...purely on Eco mode....achieved 15km/l (SPC 95)

    Second & third tanks (playing a bit with Eco mode on and off...achieved 13.8 km/l...suspect that the next tank will come in at 12.5km/l. �A bit disappointing, but acceptable given the size of the car....any feedback re brands of petrol??�

    The car feels livelier with Eco mode OFF ..... of course at the expense of FC. �Now, I will drive with it OFF, and only turn it on when I am cruising on highway

    As for Power Mode - yes, there is a "big" difference with you turn it on ..... but this is relative!!

    My only complaint is that the silly buttons are on the dash board....should have been placed in the steering wheel area

    Drive SUV better don't see FC ... Very Heart Pain ...� [nod]


  • 29 October 2014 - 10:59 AM
    Davidtch

    On my very first tank (ie brand new car)...purely on Eco mode....achieved 15km/l (SPC 95)

    Second & third tanks (playing a bit with Eco mode on and off...achieved 13.8 km/l...suspect that the next tank will come in at 12.5km/l. �A bit disappointing, but acceptable given the size of the car....any feedback re brands of petrol??�

    The car feels livelier with Eco mode OFF ..... of course at the expense of FC. �Now, I will drive with it OFF, and only turn it on when I am cruising on highway

    As for Power Mode - yes, there is a "big" difference with you turn it on ..... but this is relative!!

    My only complaint is that the silly buttons are on the dash board....should have been placed in the steering wheel area

    1.8ton with 150hp definitely will suffer in term of FC.� If not for CVT, it will be worse.�

    Heck care with FC since you have already paid so much for it.


  • 29 October 2014 - 11:18 AM
    bingkok
    So I assume the power mode make no big difference in performance??

    As for harrier FC, I think is quite acceptable as compare to my previous car honda fit 1.3cc FC at 11.5km/I
    And current altis 1.6cc FC at 10.5-11km/litre
    My brother new teanna 2.5cc FC at 10km/litre with ECO ard 13.5km/litre...

    Not sure abt previous model FC. Maybe our bro may help to answer.


    On my very first tank (ie brand new car)...purely on Eco mode....achieved 15km/l (SPC 95)
    Second & third tanks (playing a bit with Eco mode on and off...achieved 13.8 km/l...suspect that the next tank will come in at 12.5km/l. �A bit disappointing, but acceptable given the size of the car....any feedback re brands of petrol??�

    The car feels livelier with Eco mode OFF ..... of course at the expense of FC. �Now, I will drive with it OFF, and only turn it on when I am cruising on highway

    As for Power Mode - yes, there is a "big" difference with you turn it on ..... but this is relative!!

    My only complaint is that the silly buttons are on the dash board....should have been placed in the steering wheel area


  • 29 October 2014 - 11:48 AM
    Genting

    So I assume the power mode make no big difference in performance??

    As for harrier FC, I think is quite acceptable as compare to my previous car honda fit 1.3cc FC at 11.5km/I
    And current altis 1.6cc FC at 10.5-11km/litre
    My brother new teanna 2.5cc FC at 10km/litre with ECO ard 13.5km/litre...

    Not sure abt previous model FC. Maybe our bro may help to answer.

    No no....there is a real difference when power mode is on....I used " " because I may get flamed ....


  • 29 October 2014 - 01:46 PM
    yong0626

    I just placed my unit with Volks. Look for Simon.

    Price for premium includes Pioneer system (USB, reverse parking, GPS, etc). FULL Leather and panaramic roof and white.

    Bro Marler123, able to share with me privately how much u purchase? Interested to get this ride
    Thanks a million if u can provide me with more detail and the freebies given by Volks.


  • 30 October 2014 - 10:44 PM
    logic69

    I am torn between this car and the Merc A180. Yes, I know both are 2 very different cars. But just cannot decide.


    Bro Marler123, able to share with me privately how much u purchase? Interested to get this ride
    Thanks a million if u can provide me with more detail and the freebies given by Volks.

    Me too, can you kindly PM me the price ? Thanks a lot.


  • 30 October 2014 - 11:22 PM
    Thaiyotakamli

    I am torn between this car and the Merc A180. Yes, I know both are 2 very different cars. But just cannot decide.


    Me too, can you kindly PM me the price ? Thanks a lot.


    Depend on ur need


    Whether u are always traveling alone, have a big family, always carry alot of items or what


    If space is not a prob then go for A class or else harrier for practicality and low maintenance cost
  • 31 October 2014 - 02:40 PM
    Marler123

    I am torn between this car and the Merc A180. Yes, I know both are 2 very different cars. But just cannot decide.


    Me too, can you kindly PM me the price ? Thanks a lot.

    It depends whether you prefer an SUV/MPV with elevated view or not, and whether you prefer an "open" boot.

    The reason I decide on SUV is because of these 2 reasons. if these�2 reasons does not matter to you, and if both prices are the same and you prefer a car with more presteige, you may want to consider a mercedes.


  • 31 October 2014 - 06:52 PM
    Mazdaseller

    As with all vehicles, once oil change to fully synthetic engine oil, FC will improve greatly. I avg 14.5km/l per tank as the display shows.

    On my very first tank (ie brand new car)...purely on Eco mode....achieved 15km/l (SPC 95)

    Second & third tanks (playing a bit with Eco mode on and off...achieved 13.8 km/l...suspect that the next tank will come in at 12.5km/l. �A bit disappointing, but acceptable given the size of the car....any feedback re brands of petrol??�

    The car feels livelier with Eco mode OFF ..... of course at the expense of FC. �Now, I will drive with it OFF, and only turn it on when I am cruising on highway

    As for Power Mode - yes, there is a "big" difference with you turn it on ..... but this is relative!!

    My only complaint is that the silly buttons are on the dash board....should have been placed in the steering wheel area


    The power mode when on, will allow driver to rev higher and longer before the transmission changes to higher gear ratios. If you would like to accelerate hard, i would suggest to tinker with it in manual mode as it provides 7 fixed gear ratios.


  • 01 November 2014 - 10:08 AM
    david111

    Anyone owners that have ordered a Tonneau Cover for the new 2014 Harrier? And like to understand if this is necessary or good-to-have. Appreciate any leads


  • 01 November 2014 - 11:27 AM
    redcat

    Hi,�

    I ordered my Harrier with the cover free. If u want, u can check with my PI where they ordered from. Yet to take delivery of my Harrier.


  • 01 November 2014 - 06:29 PM
    logic69

    Thank you to all who replied. I think I will likely choose the harrier because of its reliability and maintenance cost (comparing to Merc A180). This is not to say the A180 is not reliable.


    Edited by logic69, 01 November 2014 - 06:30 PM.

  • 01 November 2014 - 07:33 PM
    sknight

    Anyone owners that have ordered a Tonneau Cover for the new 2014 Harrier? And like to understand if this is necessary or good-to-have. Appreciate any leads


    Me too it was included in the sales package. It is important for security when you have your bags stored or expansive stuff and when you are in Malaysia.

    PM me and I can share details with you.

    Thank you to all who replied. I think I will likely choose the harrier because of its reliability and maintenance cost (comparing to Merc A180). This is not to say the A180 is not reliable.


    I too was looking at the GLA before decided on the Harrier. As Harrier had all the gizmos and nice roof, most importantly space for 5 adults comfortably.

    Not to mention it's long term reliability = lower maintenance cost.
  • 01 November 2014 - 08:22 PM
    Thaiyotakamli
    Yes i dont like to drive in small space car especially in long journey.

    I am fat so harrier will be better option for me if i were to choose between A180 and harrier


    Pls do post some photos here if ur new ride arrives :D
  • 03 November 2014 - 01:03 AM
    sknight

    Saw this ad on the Harrier with Modellister body kit "Sweet" ride...wonder why the owner sold it.

    http://www.sgcarmart...=429817&DL=2015

    Brothers, post your rides leh. haha


  • 03 November 2014 - 01:08 AM
    Thaiyotakamli
    So ex
  • 03 November 2014 - 01:49 AM
    sknight

    True... very ex it should be around 148... hahaha

    The body kit looks nice but the engine cannot take the additional weight. may be that is why the owner is selling so fast.

    Mine will come with the Optional Grille, wonder if that is approved by LTA.


  • 03 November 2014 - 02:06 AM
    Coltplussport

    Saw this ad on the Harrier with Modellister body kit "Sweet" ride...wonder why the owner sold it.

    http://www.sgcarmart...=429817&DL=2015

    Brothers, post your rides leh. haha

    The colour of the bodykit and body is different, how the hell would I accept something like this. Fierce? Look more like looking for suckers.


  • 03 November 2014 - 04:11 AM
    sknight

    The colour of the bodykit and body is different, how the hell would I accept something like this. Fierce? Look more like looking for suckers.

    wow! you are sharp.... although I can't tell from the photos, maybe my eyes not that good. haha


  • 03 November 2014 - 10:00 AM
    Finclk

    i dunno whether there's a problem with the harrier. Being put on sold too fast after being bought. Somehow the previous generation Harrier enjoyed alot more attention and sales compared to this present model


  • 03 November 2014 - 10:43 AM
    IloveVezel

    Saw this ad on the Harrier with Modellister body kit "Sweet" ride...wonder why the owner sold it.

    http://www.sgcarmart...=429817&DL=2015

    Brothers, post your rides leh. haha

    This PI is famous to post an ads in used car section for marketing purpose. [lipsrsealed]� Actually, the car has been just delivered to the 1st owner. [sleeping]


  • 03 November 2014 - 10:54 AM
    Mazdaseller

    Yeah, some PIs market certain cars as used for finance issues, i dont know how and why they can do that. Remember Vincar had a white colour Elegance model for sale also listed under used vehicle? Well, i test drove that particular car and from their showroom and sales person told me it was new and the car did not have any license plate also, had to put those test drive plates when on the road. Yep, so far Vincar allowed test drive for the Harrier, although eventually i did not get from them as the sales person knows Zilch about the car, just eager to close sales.


  • 03 November 2014 - 08:25 PM
    sknight

    This PI is famous to post an ads in used car section for marketing purpose. [lipsrsealed]� Actually, the car has been just delivered to the 1st owner. [sleeping]

    Yup I did check and they said it was new, reason was they found that there were more viewers on the resale forum and easy to spread the news. Placing the car in used add they needed to complete how many owners so placed as 1 owner when it is new.

    Oh well, I suppose�different marketing style.


  • 03 November 2014 - 09:32 PM
    Thaiyotakamli


    Yup I did check and they said it was new, reason was they found that there were more viewers on the resale forum and easy to spread the news. Placing the car in used add they needed to complete how many owners so placed as 1 owner when it is new.

    Oh well, I suppose�different marketing style.


    Its the trend

    Many PI post new cars in used car sections
  • 03 November 2014 - 11:20 PM
    beef331994

    The colour of the bodykit and body is different, how the hell would I accept something like this. Fierce? Look more like looking for suckers.

    haha, body pearl white, kit is normal white


  • 04 November 2014 - 12:32 PM
    Quantum

    haha, body pearl white, kit is normal white

    today I saw a new Harrier in pearl white, initailly I tot it's Sorento from rear view,�side view nice streamlined shape, looks bigger than RX300,


  • 04 November 2014 - 05:49 PM
    beef331994

    today I saw a new Harrier in pearl white, initailly I tot it's Sorento from rear view,�side view nice streamlined shape, looks bigger than RX300,

    I feel the Harrier is bigger than it looks. On paper it is 4720 x 1835 x 1690 (L x W x H) in mm.

    The new RX350 is 4770 x 1885 x 1685

    Audi Q5 without off road styling is 4629 x 1898 x 1655

    If i didnt recall wrongly, it is definitely smaller than the older generation of RX. However, the specifications show it to be quite big already in comparison to these established big SUVs out on the road. However the big boys like the Cayenne, ML and Q7 are total behemoths haha

    I really like the tail lights of the harrier but dont really dig the clear front grille. It doesnt make sense haha, cos i thought the grille was supposed to let air in but then i dunno why they go cover it with clear acrylic/plastic.


    Edited by beef331994, 04 November 2014 - 05:55 PM.

  • 08 November 2014 - 12:51 AM
    Geneviean

    hi�

    please advise where to get visors and tonneau cover for harrier 2014. Collecting mine next week.


  • 10 November 2014 - 12:50 AM
    bingkok
    Anyone got the harrier 2014 on the road already??? Share your view leh.... Mai giam leh... Hee..hee..
    Plan to Dec order when I come back from trip. Though quite confident to say this is a good car. But then still want to see the owner views...
    Acceleration.
    Anyone speed up to 150 or above??? How the feel? Vibration?
    Road Noise
    Turning radius.
    Compartments.
    Backseat space. Cos My leg a bit long. Currently My car the seat behind driver very cramp.

    So far manage to see white and silver on the road. Anyone order Dark Steel Mica or Black crystal pearl?? Havent see them on the road

    Edited by bingkok, 10 November 2014 - 01:06 AM.

  • 10 November 2014 - 08:26 AM
    Davidtch

    Anyone got the harrier 2014 on the road already??? Share your view leh.... Mai giam leh... Hee..hee..
    Plan to Dec order when I come back from trip. Though quite confident to say this is a good car. But then still want to see the owner views...
    Acceleration.

    From standstill, sure no problem & better than torque converter AT.� The main question will be OVERTAKING.
    Anyone speed up to 150 or above??? How the feel? Vibration?
    Road Noise
    Turning radius.
    Compartments.
    Backseat space. Cos My leg a bit long. Currently My car the seat behind driver very cramp.

    This one, you better go & try it out yourself.� It is always better to try it out in person.

    So far manage to see white and silver on the road. Anyone order Dark Steel Mica or Black crystal pearl?? Havent see them on the road


  • 10 November 2014 - 11:48 AM
    Marler123

    Bro,

    collecting mine in Dec so you can take a look.

    Anyone got the harrier 2014 on the road already??? Share your view leh.... Mai giam leh... Hee..hee..
    Plan to Dec order when I come back from trip. Though quite confident to say this is a good car. But then still want to see the owner views...
    Acceleration.
    Anyone speed up to 150 or above??? How the feel? Vibration?
    Road Noise
    Turning radius.
    Compartments.
    Backseat space. Cos My leg a bit long. Currently My car the seat behind driver very cramp.

    So far manage to see white and silver on the road. Anyone order Dark Steel Mica or Black crystal pearl?? Havent see them on the road


  • 10 November 2014 - 12:26 PM
    bingkok
    Bro, can't wait to see your new wife right??? Haha...
    U choose White? I am kinda hestitate between White, black crystal or Dark Steel mica. Havent see Dark Steel mica on the road. Base on the catalogue, seem not bad...
  • 21 November 2014 - 03:33 PM
    sknight

    Collected my car yesterday!!!

    White Premium model with full leather, very pleasant experience with the car dealer who was on top of everything and I meant everything to tend my every nitty gritty checks and questions. Okay enough of the dealer...now about my new ride.

    This is just my feedback and personal choice,�not meant to flame or degrade anything or anyone. �

    I traded in my Mark X for this, reason was wife wanted a car with more space especially boot for easy "throw" of kids bags after child care and mother in law moving in with us next year. I was looking for cars before settling on the Harrier...GLA (I loved but did not have the space), Highlander and X Trail (did not like the interior), Forrester GT (wife did not approve).

    Aesthetic

    IMHO, Harrier was the nicest exterior and interior looking fierce on the outside with the LED day light, HID lights, big mouth infront and trendy new tail lights. The nice�Shark Fin antenna�complimented the sharp and edgy look of the design, same goes for the 2 tone wing mirrors.

    The leather seats were nice with the threaded trimming and "wood" panels were more trendy then the previous Toyota type of panels, else I would have custom changed into CF (carbon fibre). Good placement of lightings where they had the internal door handle,�front foot area lighted�very smoothly. However the door and cabin lights were non LED lights where I can feel the heat on the plastic cover just after 3 minutes, nothing a small visit to the 3rd party LED shop can't fix (which I did)....but was careful to select the lower wattage else it will be too bright.

    Compartments were sufficient for me but a small card compartment below the steering wheel would help, I was used to this from the Mark X. However the Harrier does have more compartment than the X, and a nice touch of open compartment next to the fire wall where I place my mobile linking with the blue tooth system for calls.

    Loved the aesthetic on Day 1, only major disappointment was no factory JBL system as in Japan making the center console more "expansive" looking and the fire wall was not rubber wrap and the front Hawk or Eagle, thus I had ordered the optional Modellista front grille coming in 3 weeks time.

    Kids always had a smile when they sit in the car watching the opening of the sun roof!!! Although their uncles had in their car but this was a different feel, maybe cause the car is ours.

    Sound system I upgraded to the lastest Pioneer Flagship DVD player...it has an interference buzzing sound with my GPS and workshop tried to rectify it with fail.... they gave me assurance that they will find a solution (even after there was additional grounding). Speakers are of decent SQ but I am not really an ICE person as I have my own HIFI system at home hee hee hee....

    Steering wheel controls worked very well with phone connectivity and DVD PLayer control....no comments here.

    Performance

    Please note that Mark X is 215 BHP compared with Harrier 150 BHP, 6 speed transmission vs CVT respectively. Thus my comment here is trying to be as realistic as possible in a A2A comparison.

    CVT Transmission is very good and I did not have an issue on "wanting" the jerk from gear chain as the X was also smooth, I was at 2,000rpm and I was AHEAD of the traffic and reaching 90kmh in Toa Payoh!!! Bare in mind I am still running the engine in and was on eco mood, the Sports mood gave more torque feel...

    No, it is not equivalent to the X but it was good enough to give me the confidence in daily drive and over taking, that was my biggest worry as I could not test drive the Harrier outside the carpark.�All worries addressed and I am happy, not esthetic but happy, I only wished they had the 2L engine turbo charged to satisfy by "Street Boy" side. hahaha

    Fuel consumption no comment at the moment as am still on the first tank, but I would agree with our other bros / gals here on 12km/l, I could achieve 14.8km/l on TPE and�going at 100kmh. amazing. City driving I was around 9-11km/l on the reader.

    Breaking is typical Toyota, spongy feel but effective however I will be upgrading it similar to my X. The breaks worked seamlessly with the engine start stop technology, when you stop and break pedal is close to the limit the car halts but engine still running, only when you floor the break pedal�then it�off the engine followed by a slight release of the pedal brings the engine smoothly back to life....Fantastic!!! I�offed this function�in today's early peak hour�jam on expressway. �

    Cabin noise goes to the Harrier, even with my X having full sound proofing. Comfort is Harrier (though my X was tuned to hard drive, not a right comparison).... Harrier softer ride to the X was still good in cornering my usual drive home speed, just�slight body roll but never had concern on�the car controlling me.

    Wife Comments

    Me: "Can you keep the RPM within 2000, need to run in"

    Wife: "Stop nagging, I drive hard with the Mark X this is how I drive"

    Me: "Else the engine will be noisy like my brother's 2 yrs old C class"

    Wife: "Aye....we are already at 80kmh? is the meter right?"

    Wife: "Wow, did not even know it"

    Me in my mind "told you so", but words was "Yup the CVT is good, improved version as our older Latio"

    Wife: "Told you to change to a spacious car, you still wanted the C or 3 series...."

    Me interpretation of this reply is she is very happy with the car....

    Major Likes

    Design, interior & exterior

    Ride comfort and cabin insulation

    Drive feel was responsive and confident

    Major Dislikes

    Front Grille does not flow with the car design

    No turbo charge

    Hope you all can give me some "Like" points on this.

    Comments or enquiry welcome.


  • 21 November 2014 - 04:19 PM
    159er

    You want the "like", i give you.

    Maybe you know some benefits of it that i don't know...


  • 21 November 2014 - 04:40 PM
    sknight

    You want the "like", i give you.

    Maybe you know some benefits of it that i don't know...

    haha... does it upgrade my status in the forum?


  • 21 November 2014 - 10:23 PM
    Buckley
    Hi am looking to buy Harrier from pi too. But not so sure which pi is reliable and don't wanna put my money and time in the wrong basket.

    Can you guys share how you know a pi is reliable?
    I only know of Vincar and Richburg, can share others?
  • 22 November 2014 - 10:50 AM
    Jovineo
    Hi, anyone gotten cars from Auto Selection at AML before? Pse share experiences about them if any, I am thinking about getting the Harrier from them, thanks.
  • 22 November 2014 - 12:00 PM
    Quantum

    Collected my car yesterday!!!

    Performance

    Please note that Mark X is 215 BHP compared with Harrier 150 BHP, 6 speed transmission vs CVT respectively. Thus my comment here is trying to be as realistic as possible in a A2A comparison.

    CVT Transmission is very good and I did not have an issue on "wanting" the jerk from gear chain as the X was also smooth, I was at 2,000rpm and I was AHEAD of the traffic and reaching 90kmh in Toa Payoh!!! Bare in mind I am still running the engine in and was on eco mood, the Sports mood gave more torque feel...

    No, it is not equivalent to the X but it was good enough to give me the confidence in daily drive and over taking, that was my biggest worry as I could not test drive the Harrier outside the carpark.�All worries addressed and I am happy, not esthetic but happy, I only wished they had the 2L engine turbo charged to satisfy by "Street Boy" side. hahaha

    Fuel consumption no comment at the moment as am still on the first tank, but I would agree with our other bros / gals here on 12km/l, I could achieve 14.8km/l on TPE and�going at 100kmh. amazing. City driving I was around 9-11km/l on the reader.

    Major Likes

    Design, interior & exterior

    Ride comfort and cabin insulation

    Drive feel was responsive and confident

    Major Dislikes

    Front Grille does not flow with the car design

    No turbo charge

    Hope you all can give me some "Like" points on this.

    Comments or enquiry welcome.

    congrat your new ride,

    I neticed your postive comment for CVT, previously concern NA2.0L + CVT + 1.6ton bodyweight, underpower should be an issue, read your review, seems it's not worry too much


  • 22 November 2014 - 01:26 PM
    Meanmachine

    Hi am looking to buy Harrier from pi too. But not so sure which pi is reliable and don't wanna put my money and time in the wrong basket.

    Can you guys share how you know a pi is reliable?
    I only know of Vincar and Richburg, can share others?

    � �Some other P.I carrier may be slightly affordable not not cheaper ( many Optional item not included ), s go wif the flow, if you're 1st timer and game to find more on Harrier, i suggest you go with a senior friend or family members, more head is better than 1.

    Richburg may be in the market for a while, so their image and reputation is reliable, VIncar is truing hard to please and accommodating, so U may do your due diligence.

    1/ Know what you want ( most Important ) and not some1 suggesting you this/ that

    2/ Know your budget and limitation. Do not be swayed by Salesman into paying more . . .

    3/ Determine the after sales service, contract and write down all item/s given or order in black and white.

    4/ Never book at 1st glance, come back more often, or check out third or fourth P.I, it is always a better bargain.

    Happy shopping !!


  • 22 November 2014 - 02:54 PM
    bingkok
    Bro buckey, I tried to PM u. But don know why cant send. Anyway I just booked my harrier. Got recommend by bro marler123. Sales person is nice and give me a good price for my trade in car
  • 22 November 2014 - 03:12 PM
    alphard96

    Bro,

    collecting mine in Dec so you can take a look.

    good choice

    find the styling "better" than RX, and the lights "wow".

    Probably Toyota learn from harrier to design the NX.


  • 22 November 2014 - 03:20 PM
    Stone78

    Bro buckey, I tried to PM u. But don know why cant send. Anyway I just booked my harrier. Got recommend by bro marler123. Sales person is nice and give me a good price for my trade in car


    Bro, can share from which PI?
  • 22 November 2014 - 03:32 PM
    Marler123

    Hi Bro,

    I got it from Volks Auto. I booked mine about a month ago, and recommended Bro Bingkok. I offer to view mine when I get it in Dec, but I guess it's difficult to wait once you have view it, right bro Bingkok :). I will share more once I get mine.

    Anyway, let me know if you want more details.

    Cheers.

    Bro, can share from which PI?


  • 22 November 2014 - 03:42 PM
    sknight

    congrat your new ride,
    I neticed your postive comment for CVT, previously concern NA2.0L + CVT + 1.6ton bodyweight, underpower should be an issue, read your review, seems it's not worry too much


    I tuned my expectation when getting the harrier, so was please with the engine performance as most important to me was the overtaking or lane changing confidence which the Harrier did give me.

    It is not comparable with the Mark X for sure but then again we will not be comparing fairly.

    Hope this helps.
  • 22 November 2014 - 03:48 PM
    Icedbs

    I saw this new harrier yesterday.

    from the size, I� feel 2.0L is way underpowered. Should be at least 2.4L


  • 22 November 2014 - 03:54 PM
    Stone78

    Hi Bro,
    I got it from Volks Auto. I booked mine about a month ago, and recommended Bro Bingkok. I offer to view mine when I get it in Dec, but I guess it's difficult to wait once you have view it, right bro Bingkok :). I will share more once I get mine.

    Anyway, let me know if you want more details.

    Cheers.


    Post some nice photos when you got your lovely...
  • 22 November 2014 - 06:38 PM
    sknight

    I saw this new harrier yesterday.

    from the size, I� feel 2.0L is way underpowered. Should be at least 2.4L


    The previous model 2.4L gives 155bhp compared with now 2.0L gives 150bhp. 5bhp not much difference as the torque is also almost the same.

    My friend has the previous model and will drive his soon to see the difference.

    The Xtrail with 2 litre turbo gives 150bhp. Compared with the toyota on specs which do we think is better engineering?

    No doubt if the Harrier comes with 2.5L V6 210BHP like the mark x it would have been great. Or Toyota turbo charge this 2.0L engine will be so so sweet.
  • 22 November 2014 - 08:16 PM
    Earthboy


    Major Dislikes
    Front Grille does not flow with the car design
    No turbo charge

    i think turbo will be introduced for toyota soon.
    http://www.torquenew...mportant-decade
  • 22 November 2014 - 10:41 PM
    Observer

    if introduce turbo then not as realiable which toyota is famous for liao..but if this one turbo sure way better noe la


  • 22 November 2014 - 10:54 PM
    Alheych

    I saw this new harrier yesterday.

    from the size, I� feel 2.0L is way underpowered. Should be at least 2.4L

    displacement is really no longer that indicative. even jaguar XJ has a 2.0L model. ford mondeo has a 1.0L model.


  • 23 November 2014 - 06:39 AM
    Earthboy

    if introduce turbo then not as realiable which toyota is famous for liao..but if this one turbo sure way better noe la

    It was reported that the turbo is developed and produce by toyota themselevse so that they can control the quality. Lets see.
  • 23 November 2014 - 08:36 AM
    Observer

    It was reported that the turbo is developed and produce by toyota themselevse so that they can control the quality. Lets see.

    think pros n cons lor..will not appeal to the conservative camps because they will always have teh mentality turbo is unrealible. but thios will appeal to the newer generation who prefer a faster moving car.


  • 23 November 2014 - 09:12 AM
    Earthboy

    Turbo is the trend now. The low end torque is hard to resist. I believe they will not do something to tarnish their rep for reliability. Cooling is key for turbo.

    think pros n cons lor..will not appeal to the conservative camps because they will always have teh mentality turbo is unrealible. but thios will appeal to the newer generation who prefer a faster moving car.


  • 23 November 2014 - 10:41 AM
    Davidtch

    displacement is really no longer that indicative. even jaguar XJ has a 2.0L model. ford mondeo has a 1.0L model.

    But XJ is 2L TURBO le.


  • 23 November 2014 - 12:27 PM
    Quantum

    It was reported that the turbo is developed and produce by toyota themselevse so that they can control the quality. Lets see.

    Japanese automakers didn't invest too much on TC for family models, except Subaru,
    So don't expect 1st batch TC got good reliability.
  • 23 November 2014 - 05:12 PM
    Davidtch

    Japanese automakers didn't invest too much on TC for family models, except Subaru,
    So don't expect 1st batch TC got good reliability.

    It is not Jap did not invest.� The end game for both Jap & European car maker is Electric car.

    From now to the end game:

    Jap: Hybrid

    European: Turbo

    That's why Lexus has a huge gap in Europe as compared to European car makers.


  • 24 November 2014 - 07:51 AM
    yong0626

    Collected my car yesterday!!!

    White Premium model with full leather, very pleasant experience with the car dealer who was on top of everything and I meant everything to tend my every nitty gritty checks and questions. Okay enough of the dealer...now about my new ride.

    This is just my feedback and personal choice,�not meant to flame or degrade anything or anyone. �

    I traded in my Mark X for this, reason was wife wanted a car with more space especially boot for easy "throw" of kids bags after child care and mother in law moving in with us next year. I was looking for cars before settling on the Harrier...GLA (I loved but did not have the space), Highlander and X Trail (did not like the interior), Forrester GT (wife did not approve).

    Aesthetic

    IMHO, Harrier was the nicest exterior and interior looking fierce on the outside with the LED day light, HID lights, big mouth infront and trendy new tail lights. The nice�Shark Fin antenna�complimented the sharp and edgy look of the design, same goes for the 2 tone wing mirrors.

    The leather seats were nice with the threaded trimming and "wood" panels were more trendy then the previous Toyota type of panels, else I would have custom changed into CF (carbon fibre). Good placement of lightings where they had the internal door handle,�front foot area lighted�very smoothly. However the door and cabin lights were non LED lights where I can feel the heat on the plastic cover just after 3 minutes, nothing a small visit to the 3rd party LED shop can't fix (which I did)....but was careful to select the lower wattage else it will be too bright.

    Compartments were sufficient for me but a small card compartment below the steering wheel would help, I was used to this from the Mark X. However the Harrier does have more compartment than the X, and a nice touch of open compartment next to the fire wall where I place my mobile linking with the blue tooth system for calls.

    Loved the aesthetic on Day 1, only major disappointment was no factory JBL system as in Japan making the center console more "expansive" looking and the fire wall was not rubber wrap and the front Hawk or Eagle, thus I had ordered the optional Modellista front grille coming in 3 weeks time.

    Kids always had a smile when they sit in the car watching the opening of the sun roof!!! Although their uncles had in their car but this was a different feel, maybe cause the car is ours.

    Sound system I upgraded to the lastest Pioneer Flagship DVD player...it has an interference buzzing sound with my GPS and workshop tried to rectify it with fail.... they gave me assurance that they will find a solution (even after there was additional grounding). Speakers are of decent SQ but I am not really an ICE person as I have my own HIFI system at home hee hee hee....

    Steering wheel controls worked very well with phone connectivity and DVD PLayer control....no comments here.

    Performance

    Please note that Mark X is 215 BHP compared with Harrier 150 BHP, 6 speed transmission vs CVT respectively. Thus my comment here is trying to be as realistic as possible in a A2A comparison.

    CVT Transmission is very good and I did not have an issue on "wanting" the jerk from gear chain as the X was also smooth, I was at 2,000rpm and I was AHEAD of the traffic and reaching 90kmh in Toa Payoh!!! Bare in mind I am still running the engine in and was on eco mood, the Sports mood gave more torque feel...

    No, it is not equivalent to the X but it was good enough to give me the confidence in daily drive and over taking, that was my biggest worry as I could not test drive the Harrier outside the carpark.�All worries addressed and I am happy, not esthetic but happy, I only wished they had the 2L engine turbo charged to satisfy by "Street Boy" side. hahaha

    Fuel consumption no comment at the moment as am still on the first tank, but I would agree with our other bros / gals here on 12km/l, I could achieve 14.8km/l on TPE and�going at 100kmh. amazing. City driving I was around 9-11km/l on the reader.

    Breaking is typical Toyota, spongy feel but effective however I will be upgrading it similar to my X. The breaks worked seamlessly with the engine start stop technology, when you stop and break pedal is close to the limit the car halts but engine still running, only when you floor the break pedal�then it�off the engine followed by a slight release of the pedal brings the engine smoothly back to life....Fantastic!!! I�offed this function�in today's early peak hour�jam on expressway. �

    Cabin noise goes to the Harrier, even with my X having full sound proofing. Comfort is Harrier (though my X was tuned to hard drive, not a right comparison).... Harrier softer ride to the X was still good in cornering my usual drive home speed, just�slight body roll but never had concern on�the car controlling me.

    Wife Comments

    Me: "Can you keep the RPM within 2000, need to run in"

    Wife: "Stop nagging, I drive hard with the Mark X this is how I drive"

    Me: "Else the engine will be noisy like my brother's 2 yrs old C class"

    Wife: "Aye....we are already at 80kmh? is the meter right?"

    Wife: "Wow, did not even know it"

    Me in my mind "told you so", but words was "Yup the CVT is good, improved version as our older Latio"

    Wife: "Told you to change to a spacious car, you still wanted the C or 3 series...."

    Me interpretation of this reply is she is very happy with the car....

    Major Likes

    Design, interior & exterior

    Ride comfort and cabin insulation

    Drive feel was responsive and confident

    Major Dislikes

    Front Grille does not flow with the car design

    No turbo charge

    Hope you all can give me some "Like" points on this.

    Comments or enquiry welcome.

    Hi Sknight Bro,

    Very good info, i'm also a X owner and face the problem with space due to my 1st kid and need more spacious boot space for all the kid stuff. thanks.


  • 25 November 2014 - 12:01 AM
    sknight

    Hi Sknight Bro,

    Very good info, i'm also a X owner and face the problem with space due to my 1st kid and need more spacious boot space for all the kid stuff. thanks.


    Bro. What do you place in your car for a kid??? Haha.

    My case is wife goes to gym often so we kids and wife bags and mine it is crazy!!!

    But space was not all the issue for a change to Harrier. It was the full package compared with other Japanese SUV that made me come to this conclusion.

    Just send you a message.
  • 25 November 2014 - 02:58 AM
    Coltplussport

    Hi Sknight Bro,

    Very good info, i'm also a X owner and face the problem with space due to my 1st kid and need more spacious boot space for all the kid stuff. thanks.

    Mark X is already such a big car with a reasonable sized boot, and yet you face problem with space with only 1 kid? Maybe you should look into what you really need to tow along instead of buying a more spacious car.

    Ok, I think you just want to buy new car, if so, do it.


  • 25 November 2014 - 08:19 AM
    yong0626

    Bro. What do you place in your car for a kid??? Haha.

    My case is wife goes to gym often so we kids and wife bags and mine it is crazy!!!

    But space was not all the issue for a change to Harrier. It was the full package compared with other Japanese SUV that made me come to this conclusion.

    Just send you a message.

    Frankly only the stroller itself already occupied more than half of the boot space. If place in some bags when back to Malaysia then will hard to take out the stroller and bags. My wife also keep nag me on the boot space. Anyway will still consider whether want to change or not with the high COE right now.


  • 25 November 2014 - 02:39 PM
    Marler123

    Frankly only the stroller itself already occupied more than half of the boot space. If place in some bags when back to Malaysia then will hard to take out the stroller and bags. My wife also keep nag me on the boot space. Anyway will still consider whether want to change or not with the high COE right now.

    Boot space and elevated view are�definitely reasons�why you want an SUV. Stroller can be put upright in SUV but not Saloon.

    Then why you choose Harrier (over CX5, etc) will be the comfort, feel, reliability,etc.

    Overtaking is not just about engine but skill, timing. It should not be a key reason, unless you are always overtaking. Then buy Forrester, which will give you turbo plus cheaper, and nothing else close to Harrier. Or you spend 50Ksgd more on XC60.

    There is never a right time to buy but the�comfort level�to buy within means.


  • 25 November 2014 - 03:11 PM
    Quantum

    Boot space and elevated view are�definitely reasons�why you want an SUV. Stroller can be put upright in SUV but not Saloon.

    Then why you choose Harrier (over CX5, etc) will be the comfort, feel, reliability,etc.

    Overtaking is not just about engine but skill, timing. It should not be a key reason, unless you are always overtaking. Then buy Forrester, which will give you turbo plus cheaper, and nothing else close to Harrier. Or you spend 50Ksgd more on XC60.

    There is never a right time to buy but the�comfort level�to buy within means.

    don't understand why Forestor no market,

    its price, power, safety all are better than Harrier, CX5, Sorento, Senta Fe


  • 25 November 2014 - 03:15 PM
    Davidtch

    don't understand why Forestor no market,

    its price, power, safety all are better than Harrier, CX5, Sorento, Senta Fe

    No badge.


  • 25 November 2014 - 03:24 PM
    Quantum

    No badge.

    Subaru badge maybe not so shine as Toyota, �but compare to Mazda, Kia, Hyundai...?


  • 25 November 2014 - 03:33 PM
    sknight

    Subaru badge maybe not so shine as Toyota, �but compare to Mazda, Kia, Hyundai...?


    Forester is a good car too. My wife did not like the brand and look thus did not get it. Also if you looking at fuel economy then Harrier is the choice.

    Agree there is never a right time to change a car, what is within your means and try not to look back. Like buying the latest computer and next week a better model is launched. Haha. Of course price is a different comparison.
  • 25 November 2014 - 03:56 PM
    Quantum

    Forester is a good car too. My wife did not like the brand and look thus did not get it. Also if you looking at fuel economy then Harrier is the choice.

    Agree there is never a right time to change a car, what is within your means and try not to look back. Like buying the latest computer and next week a better model is launched. Haha. Of course price is a different comparison.

    highly doubt Harrier FC 16km/L


  • 25 November 2014 - 04:01 PM
    Tohto

    don't understand why Forestor no market,

    its price, power, safety all are better than Harrier, CX5, Sorento, Senta Fe

    I believe Forester insurance will be much higher than the Harrier since it is turbo.

    Plus Subaru car are always = to ah beng car [lipsrsealed][lipsrsealed]

    I had seen many Forester on the road modified with loud exhaust...


  • 25 November 2014 - 06:03 PM
    bingkok

    highly doubt Harrier FC 16km/L


    Wait for our bro marler123 got his car next mth u will know the FC.
    Anyway if the FC is around 11km. I am happy Liao.
  • 25 November 2014 - 06:13 PM
    Meanmachine

    Basically why Harrier beat the rest of the category, simply due to parts availability, resale value and FC was more than expected.

    Badge aside, S'p and Mal motorists preferred Toyo brand -One word is reliability and easy to service and maintance was light on pocket. �That sum up why most who are looking for SUV will be the ' Harrier ' plus past models many still owning and records are pretty acceptable. [drivingcar] as family car when travelling up north 4 short holiday.


  • 25 November 2014 - 07:56 PM
    Marler123

    To be fair, there will be some who want power more than anything else, so Forrester will be the obvious choice if the price is also important. The Sportage (packed with many features as standard)�and CX5 are both rather sexy looking, these these could be your choice if looks matter most.

    I have all the brochures of these cars, and I am fixed to getting the CX5, but somehow I was still waiting for the COE to come down so did not make the final move.

    One day, I decided to bring my family to look at the Harrier and CX5. Before this day, I have not seen a Harrier, as I have the same� opinion like most people, that is PIs are not reliable and PI cars does not have the warranty like authorized distributor.

    1st stop was the Harrier. When we sat in the Harrier, my wife comment: "wow, this is nice, and luxurious (its a full leather option), and the seat is really comfortable, The auto tailgate is nice, I don't have to use strength to close the tailgate...blah blah...�But it's a little long hor..."

    Next stop CX5. my wife goes "......". and when we left the place, she said "I don't remember that the last time we sit in CX5, the interior gave me a ok feeling...maybe we went to see the Harrier first, and gave a different benchmark". Yes, we did see the CX5 a few weeks earlier when I have more or less fixed on getting the CX5.

    So once again, a few reasons why I choose the Harrier

    1. Its interior is nice and comfortable (my Japanese colleague told me that Harrier is sold as Luxury model in Japan)

    2. The realiability of Toyota (I am currently driving a Rav 4, no issue at all, while I hear plenty of stories of other brands, like my colleague mercedes could not start one day, my sister-in-law had basically change a lot of parts for her Honda, my colleague VW lights went haywired...)

    3. It's rather sexy looking with good features, like the paranomic roof as standard..�(I still like the look of CX5 best, but I guess outter look is short term, while internal beauty last ;) ).

    My only complain is the Harrier is much longer than my Rav4 (about 30cm).

    So a week after we see Harrier, I booked my new ride, even though the COE remains at around 72K. That did not happen when I was "fixed on getting the CX5" a few weeks earlier. :)

    So I will wait till I get my car, then I will comment more about my view of PIs (at least the PI I bought my Harrier from).


  • 25 November 2014 - 09:19 PM
    sknight

    highly doubt Harrier FC 16km/L


    If you look at previous posts some of us managed 12 plus km/l. I am now on my 2nd tank and the first I did manage 12.6km/l mainly on city drive. That is impressive fuel savings. When I drive on expressway the meter read t max 17.8km/l for some time but average will be around 14km/l.

    Let me run it through 1000km and once the first oil change there should be some difference too. Will update again.
  • 25 November 2014 - 09:32 PM
    sknight
    Two separate comments here on...

    Highway driving was good, ride felt grounded and stable. Although I reached 110kmh only as am still running in.

    With the previous days of rain, aqua plating was never an issue and was smiling to myself that if there is a flash flood I am not too worried, but best to avoid at all course else chassis need to re - grease. Haha.

    My booking was with COE at 70k, PI gave the car to me with 72k. This was nice of them although we can roughly know how much their profit. Still I was very happy with their promise in 1 bid and delivery within 1 month.
  • 25 November 2014 - 11:03 PM
    Baal

    Nice looks. Seeing more & more on the road.


  • 26 November 2014 - 01:07 AM
    Super7

    Basically why Harrier beat the rest of the category, simply due to parts availability, resale value and FC was more than expected.

    Badge aside, S'p and Mal motorists preferred Toyo brand -One word is reliability and easy to service and maintance was light on pocket. �That sum up why most who are looking for SUV will be the ' Harrier ' plus past models many still owning and records are pretty acceptable. [drivingcar] as family car when travelling up north 4 short holiday.

    Popular, well sought after models in MY are also prime targets of car theft!!� This is a worry to me as i like to go up north [sweatdrop] [sweatdrop]�� But i guess if I like it, will have to find a way to avoid being the target while in MY.


    Edited by Super7, 26 November 2014 - 01:07 AM.

  • 26 November 2014 - 11:38 AM
    Davidtch

    Popular, well sought after models in MY are also prime targets of car theft!!� This is a worry to me as i like to go up north [sweatdrop] [sweatdrop]�� But i guess if I like it, will have to find a way to avoid being the target while in MY.

    This Harrier is still not common in MY.


  • 26 November 2014 - 03:44 PM
    Marler123

    This Harrier is still not common in MY.

    Harrier is certainly not common in Malaysia. I have not seen any yet in any of the trips so far in the past few months.

    What I see are mainly CRVs�followed by�CX5s.


  • 26 November 2014 - 04:10 PM
    Davidtch

    Harrier is certainly not common in Malaysia. I have not seen any yet in any of the trips so far in the past few months.

    What I see are mainly CRVs�followed by�CX5s.

    Too new for USED market lah.


  • 26 November 2014 - 04:27 PM
    Quantum

    Too new for USED market lah.

    what is the�prime targets of car theftr in My?

    1. Toyota

    2.


  • 26 November 2014 - 04:43 PM
    sknight

    maybe cause they just launch not too long ago?

    Pricing wise is around 250k MY.


    Harrier is certainly not common in Malaysia. I have not seen any yet in any of the trips so far in the past few months.

    What I see are mainly CRVs�followed by�CX5s.


  • 26 November 2014 - 04:49 PM
    Marler123

    maybe cause they just launch not too long ago?

    Pricing wise is around 250k MY.


    Harrier is certainly not common in Malaysia. I have not seen any yet in any of the trips so far in the past few months.

    What I see are mainly CRVs�followed by�CX5s.

    In this case, then MY is slow to import.

    I was in Dhaka, Bangladesh whole of last week and I saw�2 Harrier on the road already.

    I will be on road trip to KL, then Penang in a week's time, so let's see if there is a chance to bump into a Harrier.


  • 26 November 2014 - 04:56 PM
    Davidtch

    In this case, then MY is slow to import.

    I was in Dhaka, Bangladesh whole of last week and I saw�2 Harrier on the road already.

    I will be on road trip to KL, then Penang in a week's time, so let's see if there is a chance to bump into a Harrier.

    Looks like you are not familiar with MY market.� MY usually buy used JDM car, usually from 3 yrs onward.

    I don't know Bangladesh Mkt


  • 26 November 2014 - 04:59 PM
    Marler123

    Looks like you are not familiar with MY market.� MY usually buy used JDM car, usually from 3 yrs onward.

    I don't know Bangladesh Mkt

    Ah...I didn't know that... that is good news.

    The�Harriers in Bangladesh are new.


  • 26 November 2014 - 06:21 PM
    Mazdaseller

    Came back from bangkok 2 weeks ago and they have Harriers on the road. It would be a great place to get accessories as i saw quite a few aftermarket looks...


  • 26 November 2014 - 11:04 PM
    Meanmachine

    In this case, then MY is slow to import.

    I was in Dhaka, Bangladesh whole of last week and I saw�2 Harrier on the road already.

    I will be on road trip to KL, then Penang in a week's time, so let's see if there is a chance to bump into a Harrier.

    � �U will see more Peugeot and Citreon on the road in Penang, plus the usual Potong and BNB cars, KL many atas cars mainly SUV and MPV.


  • 27 November 2014 - 01:03 AM
    Yaloryalor
    Gave u 4 points to round up to 30! Lol

    Good write up. Did you compare Nissan Qashqai?

    How much you paid? Bought from which PI?

    The pick up ok? Your Mark X is RWD, comparing to Harrier and with taller body is your cornering less confident?


    Collected my car yesterday!!!

    White Premium model with full leather, very pleasant experience with the car dealer who was on top of everything and I meant everything to tend my every nitty gritty checks and questions. Okay enough of the dealer...now about my new ride.

    This is just my feedback and personal choice,�not meant to flame or degrade anything or anyone. �

    I traded in my Mark X for this, reason was wife wanted a car with more space especially boot for easy "throw" of kids bags after child care and mother in law moving in with us next year. I was looking for cars before settling on the Harrier...GLA (I loved but did not have the space), Highlander and X Trail (did not like the interior), Forrester GT (wife did not approve).

    Aesthetic
    IMHO, Harrier was the nicest exterior and interior looking fierce on the outside with the LED day light, HID lights, big mouth infront and trendy new tail lights. The nice�Shark Fin antenna�complimented the sharp and edgy look of the design, same goes for the 2 tone wing mirrors.
    The leather seats were nice with the threaded trimming and "wood" panels were more trendy then the previous Toyota type of panels, else I would have custom changed into CF (carbon fibre). Good placement of lightings where they had the internal door handle,�front foot area lighted�very smoothly. However the door and cabin lights were non LED lights where I can feel the heat on the plastic cover just after 3 minutes, nothing a small visit to the 3rd party LED shop can't fix (which I did)....but was careful to select the lower wattage else it will be too bright.
    Compartments were sufficient for me but a small card compartment below the steering wheel would help, I was used to this from the Mark X. However the Harrier does have more compartment than the X, and a nice touch of open compartment next to the fire wall where I place my mobile linking with the blue tooth system for calls.

    Loved the aesthetic on Day 1, only major disappointment was no factory JBL system as in Japan making the center console more "expansive" looking and the fire wall was not rubber wrap and the front Hawk or Eagle, thus I had ordered the optional Modellista front grille coming in 3 weeks time.

    Kids always had a smile when they sit in the car watching the opening of the sun roof!!! Although their uncles had in their car but this was a different feel, maybe cause the car is ours.

    Sound system I upgraded to the lastest Pioneer Flagship DVD player...it has an interference buzzing sound with my GPS and workshop tried to rectify it with fail.... they gave me assurance that they will find a solution (even after there was additional grounding). Speakers are of decent SQ but I am not really an ICE person as I have my own HIFI system at home hee hee hee....
    Steering wheel controls worked very well with phone connectivity and DVD PLayer control....no comments here.

    Performance
    Please note that Mark X is 215 BHP compared with Harrier 150 BHP, 6 speed transmission vs CVT respectively. Thus my comment here is trying to be as realistic as possible in a A2A comparison.
    CVT Transmission is very good and I did not have an issue on "wanting" the jerk from gear chain as the X was also smooth, I was at 2,000rpm and I was AHEAD of the traffic and reaching 90kmh in Toa Payoh!!! Bare in mind I am still running the engine in and was on eco mood, the Sports mood gave more torque feel...
    No, it is not equivalent to the X but it was good enough to give me the confidence in daily drive and over taking, that was my biggest worry as I could not test drive the Harrier outside the carpark.�All worries addressed and I am happy, not esthetic but happy, I only wished they had the 2L engine turbo charged to satisfy by "Street Boy" side. hahaha

    Fuel consumption no comment at the moment as am still on the first tank, but I would agree with our other bros / gals here on 12km/l, I could achieve 14.8km/l on TPE and�going at 100kmh. amazing. City driving I was around 9-11km/l on the reader.

    Breaking is typical Toyota, spongy feel but effective however I will be upgrading it similar to my X. The breaks worked seamlessly with the engine start stop technology, when you stop and break pedal is close to the limit the car halts but engine still running, only when you floor the break pedal�then it�off the engine followed by a slight release of the pedal brings the engine smoothly back to life....Fantastic!!! I�offed this function�in today's early peak hour�jam on expressway. �

    Cabin noise goes to the Harrier, even with my X having full sound proofing. Comfort is Harrier (though my X was tuned to hard drive, not a right comparison).... Harrier softer ride to the X was still good in cornering my usual drive home speed, just�slight body roll but never had concern on�the car controlling me.

    Wife Comments
    Me: "Can you keep the RPM within 2000, need to run in"
    Wife: "Stop nagging, I drive hard with the Mark X this is how I drive"
    Me: "Else the engine will be noisy like my brother's 2 yrs old C class"
    Wife: "Aye....we are already at 80kmh? is the meter right?"
    Wife: "Wow, did not even know it"
    Me in my mind "told you so", but words was "Yup the CVT is good, improved version as our older Latio"
    Wife: "Told you to change to a spacious car, you still wanted the C or 3 series...."
    Me interpretation of this reply is she is very happy with the car....

    Major Likes
    Design, interior & exterior
    Ride comfort and cabin insulation
    Drive feel was responsive and confident

    Major Dislikes
    Front Grille does not flow with the car design
    No turbo charge

    Hope you all can give me some "Like" points on this.

    Comments or enquiry welcome.


    Myvi is everywhere in KL especially Penang.

    I went Penang also rented myvi for few days. Haha



    � �U will see more Peugeot and Citreon on the road in Penang, plus the usual Potong and BNB cars, KL many atas cars mainly SUV and MPV.


  • 27 November 2014 - 01:20 AM
    sknight

    Gave u 4 points to round up to 30! Lol

    Good write up. Did you compare Nissan Qashqai?

    How much you paid? Bought from which PI?

    The pick up ok? Your Mark X is RWD, comparing to Harrier and with taller body is your cornering less confident?



    Myvi is everywhere in KL especially Penang.

    I went Penang also rented myvi for few days. Haha

    Thanks for the round up... haha

    I test drove the previous Qashqai which had obvious body role and sluggish CVT, not sure how the new model rides. This will not be a good comparison as it should be benchmarked with the new X Trail. $ to $ and class to class comparison.

    Yes Mark X is RWD, comparing with the pick up X wins hands down due to the engine performance but Harrier 2.0L gives me the confident in lane switching which is most important. Cornering is equally as confident as the X as I make the same speed corner and it was amazing for a SUV of this size.

    PI was Autolink, as for pricing it is stated as their advert but they do include some freebies.


  • 27 November 2014 - 07:42 AM
    Yaloryalor
    Mark X got much lower CG. I am surprise you are ok with Harrier lane changing and cornering. Good!

    I trust Toyota is very reliable but availability of the parts no problem?

    To feel how the harrier drives is the test drive the RAV4 which sharing the same platform?

    Post some pics share share with us. :)


    Thanks for the round up... haha

    I test drove the previous Qashqai which had obvious body role and sluggish CVT, not sure how the new model rides. This will not be a good comparison as it should be benchmarked with the new X Trail. $ to $ and class to class comparison.

    Yes Mark X is RWD, comparing with the pick up X wins hands down due to the engine performance but Harrier 2.0L gives me the confident in lane switching which is most important. Cornering is equally as confident as the X as I make the same speed corner and it was amazing for a SUV of this size.

    PI was Autolink, as for pricing it is stated as their advert but they do include some freebies.


  • 27 November 2014 - 10:10 AM
    sknight

    Mark X got much lower CG. I am surprise you are ok with Harrier lane changing and cornering. Good!

    I trust Toyota is very reliable but availability of the parts no problem?

    To feel how the harrier drives is the test drive the RAV4 which sharing the same platform?

    Post some pics share share with us. :)



    I too was surprised that the handling and cornering feel was ok compared with my X which I had some add ons.
    I test drove my friend previous harrier model and the new had sharper steering response with less body roll. Acceleration the old was slightly torque but not something to be missed as the new harrier pick up was close to it.
    Tried the Cruise control today and it works smoothly and simple to operate. Just that the speed is not reflected digitally taking reference to the speedo.

    Good point about comparing with the RAV4. I have not done that.

    Pictures will come once I change my option grille k. Wait for it. Haha
  • 28 November 2014 - 09:15 AM
    Marler123

    Thanks for the round up... haha

    I test drove the previous Qashqai which had obvious body role and sluggish CVT, not sure how the new model rides. This will not be a good comparison as it should be benchmarked with the new X Trail. $ to $ and class to class comparison.

    Yes Mark X is RWD, comparing with the pick up X wins hands down due to the engine performance but Harrier 2.0L gives me the confident in lane switching which is most important. Cornering is equally as confident as the X as I make the same speed corner and it was amazing for a SUV of this size.

    PI was Autolink, as for pricing it is stated as their advert but they do include some freebies.

    Hi bro sknight,

    Can you advice what are the options included in your Harrier?

    - what sound system?

    - full leather seats?

    - Sonar sys?

    - Years of warranty?

    - Free servicing?

    - What are the other freebies?


  • 28 November 2014 - 11:53 AM
    yong0626

    I too was surprised that the handling and cornering feel was ok compared with my X which I had some add ons.
    I test drove my friend previous harrier model and the new had sharper steering response with less body roll. Acceleration the old was slightly torque but not something to be missed as the new harrier pick up was close to it.
    Tried the Cruise control today and it works smoothly and simple to operate. Just that the speed is not reflected digitally taking reference to the speedo.

    Good point about comparing with the RAV4. I have not done that.

    Pictures will come once I change my option grille k. Wait for it. Haha

    Bro Sknight,

    Can't wait to see your new grille with blue LED stripe light. Post more photos once install.


  • 28 November 2014 - 11:23 PM
    sknight


    Hi bro sknight,
    Can you advice what are the options included in your Harrier?
    - what sound system?
    - full leather seats?
    - Sonar sys?
    - Years of warranty?
    - Free servicing?
    - What are the other freebies?


    Not very fair to my PI to post the full deal as other PI will then know.

    I can only share that I am using Pioneer 8650 player, their flagship with Galactico GPS. Full leather with driver memory seat and electric passenger seat. No sonar system leh. Warranty is 3+2 years. Auto High Beam.

    How about yours?
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