apparently gomez might b shipped out. hopefully the reports are wrong cos he was good when he got to play a few games.
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1 year out is no joke, he needs lots of match practice. a loan out might not be a bad thing, but please have a recall clause.�
Obviously looking at the 3 signings so far, klopp is trying to sort out our defence and midfield first. And they are not big names signings. I don't think we need any new strikers, not at least until Balotelli and maybe benteke leave. Firmino, Ings, Sturridge and origi are more than good enough in klopp's system. If coutinho goes, lallana and firmino can take over his role. I am hoping markovic can be the flank player klopp needs.
I rather klopp concentrate on our spine than anything. We need a good base and that means a good defence and midfield. Klopp will not have a problem getting his team score goals from different source. He is not like someone.
Klopp's system does not require big names but developable talent who can bloom under right conditions eg Origi, lallana, firmino.
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Klopp also require fit players who can go through the whole season consistently.
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Klopp's priority to fix the defence and midfield department should give next season a positive uplift.
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The inflow of fitness conditioning and medical team plus nuitrition specialists from ex Bayern and elsewhere tells a clear story.
apparently gomez might b shipped out. hopefully the reports are wrong cos he was good when he got to play a few games.
BR approach recently to sign or loan Gomez for Celtic which was rejected.
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BR now is negotiating to buy Andre Wisdom for �around 3m+ pnds instead
Obviously looking at the 3 signings so far, klopp is trying to sort out our defence and midfield first. And they are not big names signings. I don't think we need any new strikers, not at least until Balotelli and maybe benteke leave. Firmino, Ings, Sturridge and origi are more than good enough in klopp's system. If coutinho goes, lallana and firmino can take over his role. I am hoping markovic can be the flank player klopp needs.
I rather klopp concentrate on our spine than anything. We need a good base and that means a good defence and midfield. Klopp will not have a problem getting his team score goals from different source. He is not like someone.
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This is unlike Klopp when he was in Dortmund ... He shipped out and recruited in so many players ...
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Ok, hopefully we are able to beef up our current players as well as hopefully a few more players can come in, esp LB and striker .
if his heart is not here then sell.
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poo needs players that bleed red.
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Agree bro!!! south americans are for making $$$. do think not a bad idea to sell him if the price is right. Many bros will say " how can".. well I have been a red supporter since 10YO. and have been on annual pilgrimage to anfield for the last 18 years.. damn and we have not won the league...
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time to win something... and if it means selling PC and get players that can help us win.. why not..
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This is unlike Klopp when he was in Dortmund ... He shipped out and recruited in so many players ...
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Ok, hopefully we are able to beef up our current players as well as hopefully a few more players can come in, esp LB and striker .
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Either Klopp thinks Liverpool doesnt need wholesale change or time is not right yet because of Euro and Copa going on.
Big Ben remind me of Andy Cole. Maybe if we can find a York for him we can see him fourish..Luckily our previous transfer window wasn't too bad except big ben who was the big $ signing but didn't do well.
Clyne, joe gomez, Ings all should have a future at LFC.
Big Ben remind me of Andy Cole. Maybe if we can find a York for him we can see him fourish..
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What he is saying is Big Ben plays like a bus driver.. Slow and steady.. Suitable for bus driver manager like Mounrinhovery different styles of play lah. what talking you!
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What he is saying is Big Ben plays like a bus driver.. Slow and steady.. Suitable for bus driver manager like Mounrinho
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JM park more after taking one goal lead than driving forward........
What I mean is... Andy Cole also can't score for don't know how Long until saf buy York in to partner him... Suddenly he is scolding like no tomorrow.very different styles of play lah. what talking you!
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Don't have to be same type of player.
We don't need big names to win things
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Other clubs are snapping up fast and furious ... while Pool .. a bit slow ...
No big names coming in ...
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this Soccernet article sums up everything
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think with no European competitions to offer, the best move is to snap up young potential players from the Dutch and Portuguese�leagues... perhaps from the smaller German clubs too
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and hope the player blossoms like Suarez (hopefully not like Babel)
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Liverpool must not panic in transfer market as Klopp plots a rebuild��
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It's early June and already the transfer rumour mill seems interminable. As a big club, Liverpool are always linked with big names, though perhaps their current status dictates such players are probably in dispute with their current club or idling on its bench.
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Bayern Munich's Mario Gotze is a case in point. Once the name is linked there's ceaseless speculation but even when the tide seemingly sweeps away from Liverpool that doesn't end the rumours.
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The player in question will merely be "sounding out his options," and maneuvering to secure better terms for himself. All very tiresome.
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Within a matter of hours on Sunday, social media went from being agog about a link with Cologne's left-back Jonas Hector to denials a deal had ever been discussed and�there'd certainly been no offer from Liverpool�to the German club for their international defender.
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Common sense rarely plays a part in such speculation, despite Liverpool being in this position a number of times before. They finished eighth in the league. They have no European football next season, not even the secondary Europa League. The world champions' left-back might find himself with better offers.
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That isn't to say there aren't advantages for any player joining the Reds, even now. They were in two cup finals so success clearly isn't too far away. They have employed Jurgen Klopp, a charismatic and previously successful manager who knows how to build up a struggling club and take it to the highest levels.
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Though it may count for little in the ultra-pragmatic world of football, Liverpool are still one of the most famous, romantic and well-supported clubs in the world. The chance to be in at the start of a new golden era is tempting, even when based on slender wisps of practicality.
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Numerous so-called nadirs in recent years have been followed a few seasons later by genuine title bids. In 1999 Liverpool were poor in every sense but by 2002 they came second to an Arsenal side with the likes of Thierry Henry, Robert Pires and Patrick Vieira growing to full bloom.
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By 2004 that promise under Gerard Houllier was extinguished. They may have come fourth but it was with 60 points, 30 behind an Arsenal at their very peak. Rafa Benitez took the reins and though a title bid took longer to produce, there were still exciting times in the Champions League.
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In 2012 Brendan Rodgers took over a side that had finished eighth with a measly 52 points. Liverpool's situation had never looked bleaker, worse than it does today. By 2014 the Reds could and possibly should have won the league, from the most unpromising of beginnings two years before.
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Despite all those murky situations, Liverpool were rather conservative in the transfer market. Houllier's main additions were defensive and frugal, especially the great Sami Hyypia. Benitez found Xabi Alonso at Real Sociedad.
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Rodgers' fortunes turned when Chelsea grew bored with waiting for Daniel Sturridge to reach his potential and Philippe Coutinho tired of Inter Milan's bench.
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The situation at Anfield now is no different to those other bleak moments. The top-quality stars will find other destinations for their talent and short-term ambition, plus of course an expansion of their bank account.
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From the situation they find themselves in, Liverpool must be smarter than the rest. Blaming Fenway Sports Group for not splashing the cash seems futile when the same fans will complain when players who came solely for the money exploit that situation.
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The cream of Europe can get their money and medals elsewhere, so Klopp must look to those on the up in their careers who'll find Liverpool a convenient climbing point, just as Luis Suarez did.
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Liverpool have spent �500 million since the summer of 2008 and a lot of it was wasted. The owners can be blamed for thrusting the opinions of a transfer committee on successive managers, when most fans wanted the manager in charge of such funds.
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It seemed a promising part of the narrative of hiring Klopp in the first place. A coach that knew about success and knew about finding quality players for good prices and would surely be given as much control over expenditure as any modern manager gets these days.
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The names of new arrivals needn't thrill supporters. There is a lot to fix at Anfield anyway, so the transfer budget needs to be used as wisely as it was by Houllier in 1999 and 2000. The Frenchman oversaw a complete turnaround in the squad and kept whatever quality was already there.
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Those who speak about the ways Liverpool used to achieve their domination in the 1970s and 1980s are often accused of living in the past, but it is still knowledge of the transfer market and a keen eye for spotting a good player before anyone else that establishes a club as a force.
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Liverpool have become a giant in the game but that has only resulted in profligate spending which is often used as ersatz proof that something was being done.
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Perhaps the Reds cannot conduct their business at football's elite table, if they ever did, yet all footballers begin somewhere -- even Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo and Suarez. The Uruguayan indeed had been a star player in the Netherlands for a few years before Liverpool took a gamble on�someone who was as wayward�as he�was talented.
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That eye for a player has largely been blind at Liverpool in recent years, yet when Houllier and Benitez were given control, it worked out in the club's favour and Klopp will hopefully receive similar powers.
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Rodgers inherited a distinctly average collection of players but by finding a way to bring Suarez to his full potential, bringing Raheem Sterling on from his initial promise and adding Coutinho and Sturridge he helped create a team that entertained and almost succeeded.
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Money had little to do with it. Fees and wages may rise because of television deals, but spotting potential first was always essential to Liverpool's greatest triumphs. Football may have moved on but in this sense 2016 is no different from 1970.
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Benteke said as long as he is in Klopp's plans he will stay at Liverpool. But this quote is significant :
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1. Benteke obviously wants to stay. And he is not looking to leave at all. But unsure of his position in the squad. So give interview and throw the ball back to Klopp to force a decision.
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3. Transfer fees. A lot of variables here. If someone bid 25 million pound Liverpool might sell. But have to take into consideration the financial losses needed to cover for Balotelli. ie throw money at buying club so that they will take Balotelli. So priority is to get rid of Balotelli more than Benteke. Able to sell Benteke at good price will be a bonus.�
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all strikers are confidance players... if i am not wrong ben was top goalscorer or 2nd top... even though he misses. if 1 can score loads for villa, he surely can be a 15 goal/yr striker at pool. he needs to adapt though.
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look at sturridge, he run channels? no, he defend fm front? no. he's more clinical with his left foot, big ben gives us strength in the middle.
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i know many here cant wait to get rid of mario, i still wish we can make better use of him. of course his mentality needs to improve
all strikers are confidance players... if i am not wrong ben was top goalscorer or 2nd top... even though he misses. if 1 can score loads for villa, he surely can be a 15 goal/yr striker at pool. he needs to adapt though.
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look at sturridge, he run channels? no, he defend fm front? no. he's more clinical with his left foot, big ben gives us strength in the middle.
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i know many here cant wait to get rid of mario, i still wish we can make better use of him. of course his mentality needs to improve
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Benteke is good in box for crosses but I don see him fit the kind of play Klopp is using
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Agree Mario is talented but his attitude is really bad and I don see he will improve of change even when after he gone to few clubs already
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I am quite excited to see Ings next seasonas I feel he is those very committed player and will suit Klopp style�
yes....ings can b a huge player for klopp. when he first came i tot he will jus b a bench player. but the commitment he showed when playing, not many in the team now can come close.
Benteke is good in box for crosses but I don see him fit the kind of play Klopp is using
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Agree Mario is talented but his attitude is really bad and I don see he will improve of change even when after he gone to few clubs already
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I am quite excited to see Ings next seasonas I feel he is those very committed player and will suit Klopp style�
Danny Ings is a tough running and tackling type of centre forward well suited to Klopp's pressing game plan.
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Should rise to the occasion if given enough play time. YNWA with Klopp.
Danny Ings is a tough running and tackling type of centre forward well suited to Klopp's pressing game plan.
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Should rise to the occasion if given enough play time. YNWA with Klopp.
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hope his ACL tear didn't disrupt his ability too much.
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He's not fast though. But like his close control.
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"By the time he left the club at the start of the 2014-15 campaign, he revealed he no longer felt that his body could cope with the physical demands of Premier League football. He returned home to Brondby."
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oh man... he's only 31
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on a side note, CR7 is 31 too, and that guy seems to be still improving every year
TIA speaks exclusively to reporter Paul Joyce of the Express about Liverpool
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http://www.thisisanf...opp-pre-season/
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Highlighted a few points which I feel worth highlighting and left out the part about social media which is not really Liverpool related.
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To those who scour the gossip pages of Liverpool FC during the transfer windows, the name of Paul Joyce is one that stands out as being one of the most reliable and trustworthy sources of LFC information.
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Joyce, along with Tony Barrett (the�Times), Dominic King (the�Daily Mail), Chris Bascombe (the�Telegraph), Andy Hunter (the�Guardian), David Maddock (theMirror), and James Pearce (the�Liverpool Echo) are the Liverpool correspondents for their respective newspapers, following the Reds home and away, gaining insight and information about the club.
We spoke to Paul this week to discuss Liverpool�s summer transfer plans,�Jurgen Klopp�s first pre-season in charge, and the changing landscape of football media in the digital age.
Hi Paul, firstly, what�s your take on Liverpool�s search for a left-back this summer?
The primary target is [Ben] Chilwell at Leicester City. That might surprise people with [Alberto] Moreno being here, that they are going for such another young lad.
The feeling is that he is their first choice [left-back target] and it is just a question of Liverpool and Leicester negotiating. There is a keenness for the transfer to get done, but people are away from the club at the minute and these things tend to get strung out, especially when Leicester are probably not that keen on settling.
Maybe the lad sees an opportunity with Liverpool.
Obviously [David] Wagner has recommended him to Klopp from his time at Huddersfield so as far as I�m aware the left back interest is on Chilwell.
�That can change if they don�t get the first target and maybe [Jonas] Hector comes into it � but then it�s a different type of deal, a �20 million deal as opposed to smaller deal for a youngster. It seems a bit strange, to want Chilwell and then switch to someone who is going to cost so much more money, it�s not on the agenda at the minute but these things change.
Would Chilwell come in to replace Moreno or be back up?
I think he would come in to challenge him, but as we saw with�Joe Gomez�last season if he joins and does well in pre-season then maybe he could be put straight into the team.
It�s a big step up for these youngsters coming in, so maybe it�s to put pressure on Moreno initially. I would presume it�s a bit like [Loris] Karius; wanting to challenge the person that is there first and foremost.
Obviously Moreno had a bad game in the final but there has been other times where he has done ok and it�s just that lack of consistency in his performances that has made them realise that�s a weak position.
People forget that Moreno is 23 himself, so he has plenty of room for development�
That�s the thing, they have all worked with Klopp for eight months and the thing we find with Liverpool players a lot is that they come in and we sort of judge them after five months; �he�s crap, he�s no good.�
I know Moreno has been here two years now � Rodgers said he didn�t pick him because he couldn�t defend, and in the [Europa League] final it was the same thing � but obviously there are people at the club who believe in him still.
So maybe the signing of Chilwell will be to chivy him along a little bit and see how he responds to the challenge, because it�s not been there previously with the [Jose] Enrique situation.
�This week we saw the Gonzalo Higuain rumours, can we assume that one can put to bed?
The feedback that we are getting is they [Liverpool] are not in for a striker.�Daniel Sturridge�seems to be staying, plus�Divock Origi.�Danny Ings�comes back in � and Klopp says he is impressed with him and with Origi.
Obviously people get seduced by the name of Higuain and his goalscoring record but there doesn�t seem to be a willingness to buy a striker.
Klopp said back in February that we have five forwards, including Benteke, but spoke more about wanting a winger�
Yeah we have too many forwards, if anything. He really only ever plays one at a time anyway; the out-and-out striker.
Midfield is another they want to improve, with [Mamoud] Dahoud being the go-to man they are looking for.
With the�Mamadou Sakho�situation do you think if Sakho was to have a long term suspension, would a centre back be on the list, or would Joe Gomez come into the equation?
I think Klopp is looking to promote some of the youngsters and there would be a willingness to try and see what Gomez offers. He looked good when he first came into the team last season.
Obviously there�s Skrtel likely to go. Does Lucas become more of a centre back as time goes on? And Matip to come in.
My biggest thing about the players that we might be looking to buy or have bought, I�m not sure how much better they will make us as a team.
When you think Mourinho is coming in and they are going to spend big, and Guardiola is obviously going to have an impact at City. Chelsea are trying to buy Lukaku and they are going to spend big under Conte.
I think that the second half in Basel challenges more than what I had thought for the previous eight months. You think the players are making progress and then that second half comes up from nowhere and you think �where did that come from?�.
You go from thinking maybe it�s only fine tuning, to �bloody hell how many of those players are going to improve us?�
And what about Gotze?
Gotze�s playing whatever game he is playing � but I could still see that one being resurrected at some point as Bayern have made it pretty clear he doesn�t feature for them. Is he really going to stay for a final year if he isn�t going to play football?
It�s ok saying those things on May 23rd but when it gets to August 23rd? I don�t know if it�s the end of that one.
This week we�debated what one thing that you would change at the club, not a player, so anything to do with the structure or the philosophy at the club.
A suggestion was to sign players for the first 11 and not the squad, would you agree?
Yeah, I think there�s a lot of names that seem to be out there and I go back to the statement before of the idea of improving.
Matip has not played in England before, neither has Karius, both are young. Dahoud is 20 � highly rated but young.
I just have visions of �we need 6 months for them to settle in�. I have been saying that for about a decade now! It always takes time to settle in.
That�s why I felt the final was a big moment, to have got back into the Champions League and then the momentum you would have got from that. Now all of a sudden it just seems like there are a lot of questions about the club again. They have to play catch up again.
�It just feels like a big year, Liverpool really do need to get back into the top four and re-establish themselves.
Do you think the lack of European football will affect departures as well as incomings?
I just think it complicates it because Klopp�s policy when he came in, he was big on wanting all the young players to stay with him and shouldn�t be sent out on loan. But you have lost 6 games minimum next season, possibly 20 games less than last season?
[Sheyi] Ojo what�s going to happen with him next season? [Jordon] Ibe? What are they going to do next season? I just don�t think it�s realistic for the youngsters to stay if they aren�t going to play. They need to get out and develop, playing once every two weeks for the under-21s is not going to do them any good.
Maybe Klopp jumped the gun when he said his wish to keep all youngsters with him as he didn�t understand the intricacies of�academy�football in England?
Yeah, there�s going to be about 30 players at�Melwood�unless they are placed in different places and get to play every week. You have [Lazar] Markovic and [Mario] Balotelli coming back,�Luis Alberto�is meant to be coming back.
They don�t want to sell�Joe Allen�for less than �8-10 million so he could still be here. Then you have Lucas. Where are they all going to play?
I think that�s where the lack of games is damaging. Klopp didn�t rotate that much at Dortmund but he didn�t need to. It might be beneficial in terms of getting into the top four � a means to an end to get there � but I think it�s going to be hard. It�s going to make training more important.
Speaking of training, we have seen reports of the couple of fitness staff he is bringing in from Bayern Munich, do you think there might be any other changes in the backroom team?
I�m not sure. As time evolves he will carry on putting his stamp on things. Obviously fitness was a big thing at Dortmund but there is still a huge debate about how it will translate to a Premier League season with 38 games and no winter break.
But from what we hear it�s going to be pretty intensive in the summer, three training sessions a day � 7am, 7pm and one in between.
This is probably a way of seeing who he can count on for the season. A mental test as well as physical; who is he able to count on? Who is the player that�s ducked out of 7pm training session two or three times? The level of competition we just spoke about, he [a player not performing in training] is going to put himself at a disadvantage because Klopp doesn�t have to wait for these players now he has got 25 bursting to play.
Do you think he hasn�t made his mind up about everyone he wants next season, so therefore pre-season is a big indicator for him?
What I would say is I bet he would be as shocked as we were with the second half performance [in Basel] so while it challenged some supporters views on what had gone before, maybe he was like that himself, maybe it�s a hard one for him to get because of what actually did happen.
Everything that went on [in the second-half vs. Sevilla] is everything he hates. So it was probably a big learning exercise � maybe he is a bit confused by it himself.
Klopp had been pretty complimentary of the players he had inherited, always spoke up for them�
After the Tottenham game he said �these are all good players, you must be mad to think they can�t do it, I�ll show you they are good players�. I was thinking at the time, see what he says Jan/Feb.
They just needed to cross the line in that final game, but came up short in the way they did. I would be interested to speak to him now and find out what he thinks about what went wrong. I wouldn�t be surprised if he was shocked by what happened to be honest.
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Well done Cout's.. Hattrick today.. first and especially third goal was a beauty....
Liverpool have opened talks with Emre Can over a new long-term contract ... we got to tie him down !
Monaco eyeing move for Liverpool defender Kolo Toure as Ivorian set to be released
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who's your Liverpool best 11 (2000 to 2016)?
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mine will be (4-4-2 diamond):
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who's your Liverpool best 11 (2000 to 2016)?
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actually Mascherano played DM during his Liverpool days but I can't think of a better CB
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my memory very short, i can only remember the players who bring me the most joy. so my best 11 are:
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finnan - hyppia - agger - risse
masch - alonso
luis garcia - gerrard - berger
suarez - torres
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there r also great players like hamann, macallister, arbeloa. mayb need a "best first squad team" to fit them all in.
Kolo Toure has been released by Liverpool. Thanks for the memories Kolo! ....
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Finnan, hyypia, agger, riise
Rednapp, Alonso, Berger
Fowler, Suarez, Torres
Kolo Toure has been released by Liverpool. Thanks for the memories Kolo! ....
Other players on the released list will include Jos� Enrique, Jerome Sinclair and Jordan Rossiter � all of whom have already left Anfield.
http://www.thisisanf...na-real-madrid/
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Taking this with a pinch of salt.
I know he is talented and the way he played impress me but this news just don seem true�
Rossiter??! I tot he is highly rated?Other players on the released list will include José Enrique, Jerome Sinclair and Jordan Rossiter � all of whom have already left Anfield.
Best 11 from 2000 to 2016? Maybe more like my favourite 11.
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Finnan, hyypia, agger, riise
Rednapp, Alonso, Berger
Fowler, Suarez, Torres
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No carra and stevie G?? haha tough to decide eh..
No carra and stevie G?? haha tough to decide eh..
One of them is in my other list of 11, 11 least favourite
Manager - the best man for the job
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Kvarme, ruddock, piechnik, konchesky,
Paul Stewart, Gerrard, mcmanaman, si gin na,
Owen, Diouf
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Jones? Hyppia Henchoz Carra
alonso marsch gerrard
suarez
fowler torres
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Jones? Hyppia Henchoz Carra
alonso marsch gerrard
suarez
fowler torres
I think jones is Evans era, which mean is before 2000.
PC has not been consistent in his performances and we should cash in on him when the opportunity arises.
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Some may question whether if we can still attract people to Liverpool and continue our rebuilding. Imo, the answer is YES. With committed players who believe in playing for the club collectively, they will help the club's cause in rebuilding our stature and reinstate ourselves into regular European football nights such as Europa or UEL.�
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No one is indispensable so with the right mix and committed players, JK can then mould them into developing the same conviction in our rebuilding. When we achieve some success, it will be not be too late to attract star players and ply their career with Liverpool; whom some believe is not as glamorous as compared to other cities such as London etc.
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Not forgetting, we are not very cash rich to attract star players with sky high wages.
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My humble opinion as a true red �- YNWA.�
Agree. PC is good, but sometimes inconsistent. His physique is not build for BPL kind of physical game. Cash in if the offer is good.
Kolo Toure has been released by Liverpool. Thanks for the memories Kolo! ....
Sad. He may be old, but has the experience and can be a trusted stand-in for at least one more year. Display of dedication at the best.
Sad. He may be old, but has the experience and can be a trusted stand-in for at least one more year. Display of dedication at the best.
Kolo Toure will surely be retained if Pool has won the recent Europa final.
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Unfortunately, there is no European engagements next season.
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So I supposed Kolo has to be released because he does not want to take up a coaching job at Anfield. He can surely earn more $$ by playing at Monaco who wants him.
One of them is in my other list of 11, 11 least favourite
but the list include the players I know rather than just from 2000 to 2016. I will also include least fav manager as bonus
Manager - the best man for the job
Itandje
Kvarme, ruddock, piechnik, konchesky,
Paul Stewart, Gerrard, mcmanaman, si gin na,
Owen, Diouf
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this was the guy who rejected Chelsea to stay with his boyhood club leh
woooooh, i'm surprised a Liverpool fan will dislike Gerrard
this was the guy who rejected Chelsea to stay with his boyhood club leh
Haha, then maybe you should visit a couple of Liverpool forums like Tia and redandwhitekop. There are quite a few. I know some members like me were banned for voicing out.
Do you hear carragher having transfer rumour? Or scum Paul asscholes?
Gerrard is someone who is insecure, individualistic and interfere with a lot of things at the club. Traditionally before a player starts to drop his standard, the club already source for replacement and slowly phase out the player. But players like Gerrard and carragher refused to be these players. I understand from their point of view but from the club point of view it is no good. How ex pool players like tommy smith, Phil Neal all try to kick up a fuss but in the end managers like paisley and dalglish prevailed.
Maybe I just share a recent link on what kind of person Gerrard is. Sammy Lee, also a Liverpool legend has to apologize to him for interferring and overwrite coaching decision. There are more. You just have to find out and read about it.
http://www.liverpool...erpool-11228732
woooooh, i'm surprised a Liverpool fan will dislike Gerrard
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this was the guy who rejected Chelsea to stay with his boyhood club leh
Gerrard is an icon but he is not all angellic. His attempted move to Stamford Bridge was a deliberate manoeuvre to raise his wages by some additional 50K pnds/week. Liverpool have to give in to his demands.
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After Torres left, things start to slowly tango downhill.
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Overall, he is still respected if you compare him to Mickey Owens who is the infamously greatest self-centered bloke in Pool's recent history. Now Mickey is the football ambassador for Pool, pretty ironic.�
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ohhh... i never really followed the news of his "attempted" move to Chelsea, so i dun really know the full story
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just feel sad that in the end, many fans turned against him because of that famous slip, and the club let him go
It's just my own opinion. There are many others who do not share my opinion of gerrard.ohhh... i never really followed the news of his "attempted" move to Chelsea, so i dun really know the full story
just feel sad that in the end, many fans turned against him because of that famous slip, and the club let him go
All hell broke lose after that match. I and a few others were banned at redandwhitekop forum for voicing out about Gerrard. Before that we already have reservation about gerrard playing as a deep lying midfielder after the villa match. If I recalled we lost 3-1? Of course after that we went 10 match winning streak? and seems like a master stroke by xxxx that no one dare to question anymore and the mods there crackdown those who voice out too harshly. But I don't care anymore after that slip. I just thrashed gerrard and the best man for the job so much until I got the ban lol
It's just my own opinion. There are many others who do not share my opinion of gerrard.
All hell broke lose after that match. I and a few others were banned at redandwhitekop forum for voicing out about Gerrard. Before that we already have reservation about gerrard playing as a deep lying midfielder after the villa match. If I recalled we lost 3-1? Of course after that we went 10 match winning streak? and seems like a master stroke by xxxx that no one dare to question anymore and the mods there crackdown those who voice out too harshly. But I don't care anymore after that slip. I just thrashed gerrard and the best man for the job so much until I got the ban lol
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The way u look at gerrard is the way i look at rafa, u look at the positves or Rafa while i challenge his negative, But i wun question your loyalty or question u as a fan :)))).. Gerrard is Liverpool, yes he's only human..but u can never find another player who played his heart out like him and carragher..
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I wun get into a debate with you.. but in this era, we wun find many players like them anymore..
The way u look at gerrard is the way i look at rafa, u look at the positves or Rafa while i challenge his negative, But i wun question your loyalty or question u as a fan :)))).. Gerrard is Liverpool, yes he's only human..but u can never find another player who played his heart out like him and carragher..
I wun get into a debate with you.. but in this era, we wun find many players like them anymore..
For your info my son's name is Gerard. And it's not because of houllier
That's how much I used to be his fan. But by the time I my son was born, I already change my opinion of him. But I still go ahead with it.
As for Rafa, I knew his shortcomings. He seem cold and too professional. Way too stubborn to give in.
My thinking is always gear towards the interest of the club. I always look how much one is prepare to put himself for the club. Gerrard did give a lot, and I do not want to question his loyalty too
But I guess some things happen for a reason. We will see in future if our opinion is really right or not.
Allen got the Man of the Match award :))
As for Skrtel, he was really lucky not to get Red carded for elbowing ... Oh well, hope we can still sell him off !
Even in national team he plays like that. Seriously wat is wrong wif him. But somehow the refs n linesman nvr spot it.
I just hope he gets red card and ends his misery in this competition ... And then we can still sell him off for some decent $
A historic win for Allen and Ward's Wales, but a nightmare performance from Skrtel.
Allen got the Man of the Match award :))
As for Skrtel, he was really lucky not to get Red carded for elbowing ... Oh well, hope we can still sell him off !
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Surprising Ward was first choice also.. Another historic night for the young keeper who barely featured in 2016..
The ppl that reached and exceeded their full potential are the fans!!! And of course SingTel..damn!
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Wales first choice injuried, ward is backup. his quite compose.Surprising Ward was first choice also.. Another historic night for the young keeper who barely featured in 2016..
Allen played well, His usual 7.5 rating game, and his batt like wont flat one running whole game. Hope we keep him if no gd offer come in.
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1. Macmanaman on the wings. his dribbling was by far the most unorthodox i have seen.
2. Ian Rush. 2000 was his last year but still by far the best british striker in his generation.
3. Gary Macallister. Didn't came in his prime. but he was damm memorable in my opinion.
4. Fowler/Owen. in half minds over them. but their best years was with pool. and they deserves a mention. but probably wouldn't make my first eleven.
5. Steve Finnan. very under rated. may not be the best RB but damm consistent. i would put him over carragher at RB, Carragher is more of a CB tbh.
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mine will be (4-4-2 diamond):
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actually Mascherano played DM during his Liverpool days but I can't think of a better CB
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the wings also quite weak
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though the attacking trio is definitely world class
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2 disappointments in copa. brazil n uruguay both somehow got 3rd in their relatively weak groups.
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5. Steve Finnan. very under rated. may not be the best RB but damm consistent. i would put him over carragher at RB, Carragher is more of a CB tbh.
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Based on ability alone, Carra would not even make my 5th team. Based on other factors, he would be at best on the 5th team
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cos one club men in football are so rare...
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only a handful�have achieved it, eg�Maldini, Giggs, Gary Neville, Tony Adams,�Carragher, Puyol, John Terry (likely), Totti (likely)
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that's why was hoping for Gerrard to stay on, but too bad, reality is cruel
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he suffered the same fate as Raul
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Based on ability alone, Carra would not even make my 5th team. Based on other factors, he would be at best on the 5th team
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talking about disappointing signings.
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who can forget these
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1. Chris Kirkland: lauded as a potential future england number 1. don't remember even seeing him play.
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2. Aqualani: super for italy. kenasai for pool. waste of 25M
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3. Joe Cole: �another one touted to be a england star. ended up a wasted talent.
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4. Andy Carrot: panic buy to replace Torres. Wasted the potential reinvestment. i would have prefered they kept the money and slowly rebuild.
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5. Balotelli. He was one of the hottest young star in Serie A when he burst on the scene with AC and Inter. but his immature behavior wasted his talents.
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6. Morientes. One of RM's star came in his prime. downhill all the way.
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7. Downing. worse buy ever. the scouting dept should be retrenched based on him alone.
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8. Paul konchesky. He is the epitome of Roy hodgeson's incompetence.�
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9. El Haji Diouf. probably the most disliked poo player every. stood against everything that pool stood for. lousy still never mind. his spitting issue and loudy attitude takes the cake
GK reina
Rb financial
CB Hyppia
CB Henchoz (due to their great partnership)
LB riise (not the best defensive LB but that freekick that broke alan smith leg, ouch!)
Rm mac
Am SG
DM xavi
LM berger
Ss suarez
CF Torres
Pool really lack a proper left winger. That si gi na from man city don't could have be one.
His development seem to jammed up. His so gd cause BR utilise his strength, just like what Rafa did for Torres.
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Kewell also not as gd. He was so much better playing for Leeds.
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I agree.
Most disappointing player to me. Cos i loved him when he was at leeds. But injury took it's toll on him. He played too much football when he was young. So he lost a lot of his pace when he got older.
Just like mickey owen.
U remember a lot for a newcastle fan leh
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Morientes my 2nd biggest disappointment. Loved him when he was at Real. Super classy striker.
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I'm really excited when we got him. His the game changer to me. Unfortunately the injuries took it toll. From game changer to his game completely change.I agree.
Most disappointing player to me. Cos i loved him when he was at leeds. But injury took it's toll on him. He played too much football when he was young. So he lost a lot of his pace when he got older.
Just like mickey owen.
Haiz morientes, when we got him my excitement lvl only second that of getting Batistuta. His sharp decline to me is still a mystery. Nv known for his pace, suddenly his heading and shooting also cmi
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I'm really excited when we got him. His the game changer to me. Unfortunately the injuries took it toll. From game changer to his game completely change.
Haiz morientes, when we got him my excitement lvl only second that of getting Batistuta. His sharp decline to me is still a mystery. Nv known for his pace, suddenly his heading and shooting also cmi
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he did a very lovely looping header.
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First time i realised that players can't come to BPL when they are late 20s. They not physically strong or fast enough to compete liao. Most of them.�
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Pool fans should remember Milan Baros.....
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I agree.
Most disappointing player to me. Cos i loved him when he was at leeds. But injury took it's toll on him. He played too much football when he was young. So he lost a lot of his pace when he got older.
Just like mickey owen.
U remember a lot for a newcastle fan leh
Morientes my 2nd biggest disappointment. Loved him when he was at Real. Super classy striker.
I Guess it's because I can relate to pool better.
I'm a loser too. Lol
I Guess it's because I can relate to pool better.
I'm a loser too. Lol
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John Arne Riise announces his retirement from football. Thanks for the memories ...
yup just read about it. Thanks for the memories, Riise.
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1. Chris Kirkland: lauded as a potential future england number 1. don't remember even seeing him play.
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2. Aqualani: super for italy. kenasai for pool. waste of 25M
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3. Joe Cole: �another one touted to be a england star. ended up a wasted talent.
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4. Andy Carrot: panic buy to replace Torres. Wasted the potential reinvestment. i would have prefered they kept the money and slowly rebuild.
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5. Balotelli. He was one of the hottest young star in Serie A when he burst on the scene with AC and Inter. but his immature behavior wasted his talents.
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6. Morientes. One of RM's star came in his prime. downhill all the way.
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7. Downing. worse buy ever. the scouting dept should be retrenched based on him alone.
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8. Paul konchesky. He is the epitome of Roy hodgeson's incompetence.�
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9. El Haji Diouf. probably the most disliked poo player every. stood against everything that pool stood for. lousy still never mind. his spitting issue and loudy attitude takes the cake
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Jan Krompkamp
Robbie Keane (loved him but played out of position mostly)
Igor biscan
Bruno Cheryou
Mark Gonzalez
David Ngog
Salif Diao
Brendan Rodgers
Simon Mignolet
Charlie Adam
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John Arne Riise in the Premier League:
321 appearances
30 assists
21 goals
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We really miss his sweet and powerful left foot !
djimi traore. Lol. You could always count on him to cock upJan Krompkamp
Robbie Keane (loved him but played out of position mostly)
Igor biscan
Bruno Cheryou
Mark Gonzalez
David Ngog
Salif Diao
Brendan Rodgers
Simon Mignolet
Charlie Adam
Haha these are of the top of my head.. im sure there are more..
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Liverpool has signed highly rated central�defender Tom Brewitt
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Philippe Coutinho has insisted that he is happy at Liverpool
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Philippe Coutinho has insisted that he is happy at Liverpool
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amid suggestions that he could leave the club this summer.
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many opinions on gerrard and carra.
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my personal take:
Gerrard from 2005 to 2009, was the most impressive attacking mf i know => rafa recognise his shortfalls and play him in a position to utilise his strengths most.
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Gerrard is never a DM, can never be and he can never be a deep lying play maker due to his indiscipline. without his drive, he is half the player
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Gerrard move to chelski? nvr blame him if he use it to nego more $$. and if he was so good imho from 2005 to 2009, he can question the legends and manager (refer to previous statement on Rafa) and whoever. its up to whoever to accept his opinions
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Carra: all action CB, but reading not as good as King or even terry. reflected in the number of last ditch tackles he need to make... hendry make him look absolutely silly on occasions.
but he still make my team, at LB.. we were never expose when carra play LB.. we could play a proper left winger, aka kewell / riera when carra play at lb :)
Biggest disappointments were Le'tallec and Pongolle. Sad cases of underdevelopment under houlier. The others I had less expectations of.�
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The greatest striker for pool i watched properly was Fowler. Not many today can boast of scoring 30+ goals, 3 years in a row?�
the cousins come with great expectations... pongolle still manage some impt goals for pool in 2005, le tallac was supposed to be the new litmanen and fail miserably... coming from the guy who describe bruno cheyrou as the new zidane, i should not have place my hopes on these 2
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God makes my team 200% of the time, he was way too good but went downhill too fast. he was also playing in the era of Shearer + 1 for England. how did andy cole get ahead of him in England team was way beyond me. for me, he is better than Rush
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Lucky the ball never kena the on-rushing Man U player, otherwise he sure pengsan.
It was suppose to be documented that he engineer any attempt by any manager to try to find replacement for his fav position. And isolating any player in the dressing room which could potentially replace him. So it's likely not just because of a slip.ohhh... i never really followed the news of his "attempted" move to Chelsea, so i dun really know the full story
just feel sad that in the end, many fans turned against him because of that famous slip, and the club let him go
Well.. I didn't read his book, but from some review.. Those manager he like are those that like to tripod him and say he is good and keep playing him regardless of form.Not forgetting he and Carra turned on Rafa and appointed Woy.
Though I won't turn against him.. It's the managers fault that he get his way...
Technically doing a fowler...Not forgetting he and Carra turned on Rafa and appointed Woy.
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the cousins come with great expectations... pongolle still manage some impt goals for pool in 2005, le tallac was supposed to be the new litmanen and fail miserably... coming from the guy who describe bruno cheyrou as the new zidane, i should not have place my hopes on these 2
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i remember there was also a wonderkid striker called Neil Mellor or something
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but after that also lao hong and vanished in football
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Maybe if you want, can start a Newcastle thread. Thaiyotakamli is also toon supporter, so there are 2 of you. We can go and support and post nonsenseI Guess it's because I can relate to pool better.
I'm a loser too. Lol
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he was a traditional striker. think that is the problem.
he was a traditional striker. think that is the problem.
a bit too slow... but could prob thrive in 80s and early 90s.
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was suppose to be the new fowler
a bit too slow... but could prob thrive in 80s and early 90s.
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was suppose to be the new fowler
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no leh. fowler is more of a fox in the box type.
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mellor was more of a strong physical striker type. more to les ferdinand and shearer mould.
no leh. fowler is more of a fox in the box type.
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mellor was more of a strong physical striker type. more to les ferdinand and shearer mould.
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oops, i mean in terms of the number of goals...
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his strike against Arse was prob the truest hit of his career.
oops, i mean in terms of the number of goals...
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his strike against Arse was prob the truest hit of his career.
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that goal againest arse was probably the most memorable goal of his career.
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downhill all the way though. lol
that goal againest arse was probably the most memorable goal of his career.
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downhill all the way though. lol
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At least he would have the fond memories of that famous goal :)
neil mellor is pretty damn crappy lah.
Other than that strike.
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he's like a way lousier andy carroll.
that game he did absolutely jackshit except for that strike. He was terrible.
Harry Kewell is one of the most regularly injured 'good' player in recent Pool history chapters.
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Enigmatic guy.
But he supposingly broke all Liverpool record at the academy.neil mellor is pretty damn crappy lah.
Other than that strike.
he's like a way lousier andy carroll.
that game he did absolutely jackshit except for that strike. He was terrible.
He is like took over rednapHarry Kewell is one of the most regularly injured 'good' player in recent Pool history chapters.
Enigmatic guy.
First 3 matches away in London.
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Liverpool will make a request to Burnley to switch their home game on the weekend of
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Liverpool will make a request to Burnley to switch their home game on the weekend of
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So that could be�Arsenal, Burnley, Tottenham�and�Chelsea�away in the first five games
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Make more sense that way. Just book a hotel in london for3 weeks, get a facility in london to train there and also enjoy london life for about a month.
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Better than going back and forth traveling.
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Just don't after enjoy london life and then say wanna transfer request to london clubs hor.....
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Premier league championLiverpool fixture
13/08/2016 15:00 Arsenal v Liverpool0-1 own goal by Sanchez
20/08/2016 15:00 Liverpool v Burnley2-0 Ings 2
27/08/2016 15:00 Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool0-0
10/09/2016 15:00 Liverpool v Leicester City0-0
17/09/2016 15:00 Chelsea v Liverpool0-5 Sturridge 5
24/09/2016 15:00 Liverpool v Hull City1-0 lallana
01/10/2016 15:00 Swansea City v Liverpool1-2 Allen 2
15/10/2016 15:00 Liverpool v Manchester United1-0 coutinho
22/10/2016 15:00 Liverpool v West Bromwich Albion2-0 origi 2
29/10/2016 15:00 Crystal Palace v Liverpool3-3 origi, Sturridge, coutinho
05/11/2016 15:00 Liverpool v Watford4-0 firmino, can, origi, Henderson
19/11/2016 15:00 Southampton v Liverpool1-0 own goal by lorven
26/11/2016 15:00 Liverpool v Sunderland1-0 own goal by borini
03/12/2016 15:00 A.F.C. Bournemouth v Liverpool0-2 origi, lallana
10/12/2016 15:00 Liverpool v West Ham United3-0 Sturridge 3
13/12/2016 19:45 Middlesbrough v Liverpool0-0
17/12/2016 15:00 Everton v Liverpool0-5 origi 4 Henderson
26/12/2016 15:00 Liverpool v Stoke City6-1 coutinho, firmino, can, lallana, Moreno, Clyne
31/12/2016 15:00 Liverpool v Manchester City1-0 own goal by si gin na
02/01/2017 15:00 Sunderland v Liverpool0-1 coutinho
14/01/2017 15:00 Manchester United v Liverpool0-1 origi
21/01/2017 15:00 Liverpool v Swansea City1-0 Allen
01/02/201720:00 Liverpool v Chelsea1-0 Sturridge
04/02/2017 15:00 Hull City v Liverpool0-3 Sturridge
11/02/2017 15:00 Liverpool v Tottenham Hotspur3-0 lallana, Henderson, firmino
25/02/2017 15:00 Leicester City v Liverpool0-0
04/03/2017 15:00 Liverpool v Arsenal4-0 Sturridge 2 origi firmino
11/03/2017 15:00 Burnley v Liverpool4-0 Ings 4
18/03/2017 15:00 Manchester City v Liverpool0-1 own goal by si gin na
01/04/2017 15:00 Liverpool v Everton3-0 Ings Sturridge firmino
05/04/2017 20:00 Liverpool v A.F.C. Bournemouth4-0 Ings, firmino 2 can
08/04/2017 15:00 Stoke City v Liverpool1-2 coutinho Ings
15/04/2017 15:00 West Bromwich Albion v Liverpool1-1 Ings
22/04/2017 15:00 Liverpool v Crystal Palace2-2 Sturridge firmino
29/04/2017 15:00 Watford v Liverpool0-1 firmino
06/05/2017 15:00 Liverpool v Southampton3-0 lallana Clyne lovren
13/05/2017 15:00 West Ham United v Liverpool1-0
21/05/2017 15:00 Liverpool v Middlesbrough1-0 firmino
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Aiyah only 99 points.
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If we win the 1st 3 games, morale will be high !
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Lets look forward to the coming season !
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'Normal' one will become the special 'Normal' one.
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huh? useless fella... the sissoko
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Our target is 1-0 every match...
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Seriously wrong score line...
Our target is 1-0 every match...
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that make 2 of us
Seriously wrong score line...
Our target is 1-0 every match...
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Arsenal vs Liverpool
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Seriously wrong score line...
Our target is 1-0 every match...
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Hehe I know Vegas wants this score line for every match but you too?
Hopefully he will be off soon :)
At least we can still get back 5.5 mil from his sale ...
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Liverpool agree �5.5m fee for Martin Skrtel
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No lei...doesnt mean they wanna sell for any offer to come in. Same like players...a club don wanna sel but still got ppl offer to buy. N if they not in it for the long run, don tink they will put in so much money.Another rumour of Liverpool take over, this time a Chinese investment group related to China government. Its quite obvious FSG is not really in it for long term as we all know rumours don't start without any reason. They may not want to sell now doesn't mean they are not looking to sell. £700 million not attractive enough for FSG to sell.
But...all things come at a price. If the offer is too good for them to reject, im sure they will accept.
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Another rumour of Liverpool take over, this time a Chinese investment group related to China government. Its quite obvious FSG is not really in it for long term as we all know rumours don't start without any reason. They may not want to sell now doesn't mean they are not looking to sell. �700 million not attractive enough for FSG to sell.
Football club ownership are treated and run as business investments nowadays be it Chelsea, Liverpool, Man U , Man C, �PSG whatever. Iconic clubs with rich and successful histories have global branding, financial sponspoship and fan following due to TV and other media exposure/coverage, and every club will try to leverage on these factors to max out their revenues and financial returns.
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There are always many large investment or sovereign funds out there who may take fancy of football clubs like Liverpool and may make financially compelling offers which FSG may not refuse.
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Realistically fans have not much control over these business transactions. All they can do perhaps is to sing their hearts out YNWA and pray for a change for the better if such rumoured transactions do materialize eventually.
Football club ownership are treated and run as business investments nowadays be it Chelsea, Liverpool, Man U , Man C, �PSG whatever. Iconic clubs with rich and successful histories have global branding, financial sponspoship and fan following due to TV and other media exposure/coverage, and every club will try to leverage on these factors to max out their revenues and financial returns.
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There are always many large investment or sovereign funds out there who may take fancy of football clubs like Liverpool and may make financially compelling offers which FSG may not refuse.
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Realistically fans have not much control over these business transactions. All they can do perhaps is to sing their hearts out YNWA and pray for a change for the better if such rumoured transactions do materialize eventually.
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As long as the onwers can invest in our players, buy new players and don't bicker over that little 3-5 millions dollars in getting a new players... and also invest in our youth players... I am generally ok ...
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We need to build up our Pool ... we need to get off from our dust and restore our glories ...
Seriously wrong score line...
Our target is 1-0 every match...
W38 D0 L0 F38A0 d38 pts 114
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Football club ownership are treated and run as business investments nowadays be it Chelsea, Liverpool, Man U , Man C, �PSG whatever. Iconic clubs with rich and successful histories have global branding, financial sponspoship and fan following due to TV and other media exposure/coverage, and every club will try to leverage on these factors to max out their revenues and financial returns.
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There are always many large investment or sovereign funds out there who may take fancy of football clubs like Liverpool and may make financially compelling offers which FSG may not refuse.
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Realistically fans have not much control over these business transactions. All they can do perhaps is to sing their hearts out YNWA and pray for a change for the better if such rumoured transactions do materialize eventually.
A state-backed Chinese investment group have shown an interest in a �700million purchase of Liverpool Football Club.
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Chelsea considering move for Liverpool star as Antonio Conte plans new tactics CHELSEA are considering a move for Liverpool striker Christian Benteke, according to reports.�
Incoming�Blues�boss Antonio Conte is set to overhaul his squad when he takes the reins at Stamford Bridge after�Euro 2016.
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And he is understood to be keen on using the 3-3-4 system he deployed in�Italy�s win over Belgium�on Monday night.
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Romelu Lukaku has been linked with a return to west London this summer, with Conte apparently intent on starting two strikers on a regular basis.
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Yeah another 50 million from Chelsea for one of our forwards.
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Yeah another 50 million from Chelsea for one of our forwards.
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Our new main stand coming up.
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Can't wait to hear our YNWA song multiply in volume ... to scare the shit off opponents :)
Mai Tu Leow ......
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Mai Tu Liao x2 :))
i remember there was also a wonderkid striker called Neil Mellor or something
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scored a super long range winner against Arsenal
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but after that also lao hong and vanished in football
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Injury prone, retired very early..
Not surprised on the benteke interest.. watch the italy match.. u see Pelle of all players starting for italy.. Conte likes to play old school grinding out results with a good target man....
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TBH next season with Jose back, i forsee the revival of the target Man tactic..
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TBH next season with Jose back, i forsee the revival of the target Man tactic..
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somewhat agree with you, but in reality i suspect not gonna be easy. The influx of GOOD foreign players due to the TV money leveled the playing field greatly ...........�
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Bad for English players' development, but good for the fans lah ...�
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Mou and Conte will be operating in "new" environment ...... lets hope the one that plays the nice football wins.�
somewhat agree with you, but in reality i suspect not gonna be easy. The influx of GOOD foreign players due to the TV money leveled the playing field greatly ...........�
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Bad for English players' development, but good for the fans lah ...�
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Mou and Conte will be operating in "new" environment ...... lets hope the one that plays the nice football wins.�
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TBH the "good" football team will be spurs, pool, gunners, maybe leciester see who they sign for next season..
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The grinders will be Chelshit and Scums.. both play for results and ugly football..
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They got rid of one boring manager who play boring football and now they hired a noisy manager who also plays boring football..
DS won for 3Lions ...
He showed that he is still lethal after-all :))
DS won for 3Lions ...
He showed that he is still lethal after-all :))
He better show it for Liverpool everytime he is picked! Haha
He better show it for Liverpool everytime he is picked! Haha
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He better don't injured... then will have chance to be chosen
He better don't injured... then will have chance to be chosen
Yah. Better don't get injured playing for England. If not........!
TBH he sucked the whole half.. but he did make some good movements off the ball.. and lethal when mattered the most.. But if u guys watch his performance today in an LFC shirt.. knives would be out.. lol
DS won for 3Lions ...
He showed that he is still lethal after-all :))
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TBH he sucked the whole half.. but he did make some good movements off the ball.. and lethal when mattered the most.. But if u guys watch his performance today in an LFC shirt.. knives would be out.. lol
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DS won for 3Lions ...
He showed that he is still lethal after-all :))
The best natural finisher after Robbie Fowler.
Go England!!!!
DS won for 3Lions ...
He showed that he is still lethal after-all :))
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No doubt he is good - problem is his fitness/health....
No doubt he is good - problem is his fitness/health....
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That's why only play 1 half lor
Liverpool misfit Mario Balotelli offered to Besiktas
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Liverpool misfit Mario Balotelli offered to Besiktas
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Doubt he will fit into the system. Good that he will leave so will not take up additional wages
Talented but too bad attitude sucks
Doubt he will fit into the system. Good that he will leave so will not take up additional wages
Talented but too bad attitude sucks
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Faster go ... spoilt our reputation ...
Don't know why we wanted him in the first place ....
Faster go ... spoilt our reputation ...
Don't know why we wanted him in the first place ....
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to be fair he was ok at Man C
The best natural finisher after Robbie Fowler.
Go England!!!!
not until he score 30 goals 3 seasons in a row
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No 50Mil no talk ~�
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No 50Mil no talk ~�
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Okok i not really hate arsenal as much as man utd, make it 45Mil ~�
45mil but only to include Ramsey or Ozil as part exchange. �
45mil but only to include Ramsey or Ozil as part exchange.
I take Ramsey. I like this type of player. I feel he is much better than wilshere. As for Ozil, he is a luxury player and he doesn't suit klopp style.
Liverpool main stand when completed.
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After his winning strike for 3Lions, his price tag has ballooned to 70mil !
No 100mil, no talk
Liverpool main stand when completed.
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Really going to be a majestic sight !!!
Can't wait !
Our first game against Arsenal away.
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Our new stadium is not ready
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so first 4 games will be away.
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Skrtel said he will decide his future after the Euro. He needs to check which league allows him to use his elbow legally in the match�
Who dares to eat this birthday cake?�
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Skrtel said he will decide his future after the Euro. He needs to check which league allows him to use his elbow legally in the match�
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I believe Russian league should be ok with him ... cos Russians thugs use elbows ...
Who dares to eat this birthday cake?�
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Nice masterpiece of cake :))
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Hopefully we can do a new one with the league champion trophy besides Klopp at the end of the season :))
U go check every preseason comment.. Me and him tag teamHehe I know Vegas wants this score line for every match but you too?
Another piece of the jigsaw puzzle coming into place :)
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Piotr Zielinski could sign with Liverpool next week :)
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http://www.90min.com...eek?a_aid=35370
Another piece of the jigsaw puzzle coming into place :)
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Piotr Zielinski could sign with Liverpool next week :)
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I don't trust the news......
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One moment here, another moment there and one moment back here again ...
the whole italy rpted the mateo kocavic or someone suppose to sign for us last season, then he go RM, now report he come pool again, at double price
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konoplanka suppose to be in the bag, but dunno whose bag
Another piece of the jigsaw puzzle coming into place :)
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Hope there is double confirmation, this is good news.
Base on past don't know how many years experience... Only read the news release from Liverpool FC on who we sign.the whole italy rpted the mateo kocavic or someone suppose to sign for us last season, then he go RM, now report he come pool again, at double price
konoplanka suppose to be in the bag, but dunno whose bag
Yet he perform in some of those club without the outward hunger??Whichever shirt he puts on, also no hunger ...
Better quickly sell him .... how come no china clubs want him?! ....
Yet he perform in some of those club without the outward hunger??
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It's been a long while and many years since he's had a good season.
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If Klopp doesn't think he's going to fit, then just sell.
Mai waste time.
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Don't need to argue whether he has hunger or simi sai. Either use him or sell him. Given his personality, i suspect klopp will just sell him.
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It's been a long while and many years since he's had a good season.
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If Klopp doesn't think he's going to fit, then just sell.
Mai waste time.
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Don't need to argue whether he has hunger or simi sai. Either use him or sell him. Given his personality, i suspect klopp will just sell him.
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Sell also must have some buyer ... but given his infamous reputation, now, no club want him ... haiz ...
Whichever shirt he puts on, also no hunger ...
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Better quickly sell him .... how come no china clubs want him?! ....
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Those Chinese are very shrewd business people.
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They know a bad deal when they see one.
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Sell also must have some buyer ... but given his infamous reputation, now, no club want him ... haiz ...
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Can always try Geylang United.
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Those Chinese are very shrewd business people.
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They know a bad deal when they see one.
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Lol.
We need some chinese club to buy him for some ridiculous sum of money...
Can always try Geylang United.
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Yes. I agree with you.It's been a long while and many years since he's had a good season.
If Klopp doesn't think he's going to fit, then just sell.
Mai waste time.
Don't need to argue whether he has hunger or simi sai. Either use him or sell him. Given his personality, i suspect klopp will just sell him.
My point is... We can't really see a player and just because he is not expressing his hunger outwardly and say he is not hungry.
Lol.
We need some chinese club to buy him for some ridiculous sum of money...
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tampines rovers lah. Only they have the $ to sign jermaine pennant.
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Yes yes Tampines Rovers.
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They don't mind signing Liverpool flops.
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Yes. I agree with you.
My point is... We can't really see a player and just because he is not expressing his hunger outwardly and say he is not hungry.
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Hmmm the problem with Balo is that we know he has the attributes to be good. Height, power/strength, shooting technique.
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Just that he can't translate that on the pitch, so you have to assume it's mental/attitude issues.
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I will say it's a reasonable assumption given that it's not like he's struggling with injuries.
Well... When he was with Liverpool... And when he play. All I see is our midfielder can't pass a good thru pass... And any pass that get to him is mostly able to shoot on first touch... The only problem I see is no pass to him. End up he have to track back and suddenly no one in the box.Hmmm the problem with Balo is that we know he has the attributes to be good. Height, power/strength, shooting technique.
Just that he can't translate that on the pitch, so you have to assume it's mental/attitude issues.
I will say it's a reasonable assumption given that it's not like he's struggling with injuries.
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All this doesn't matter cos klopp will play single striker. We seen how balo does when Rodgers played him as a sole striker.Well... When he was with Liverpool... And when he play. All I see is our midfielder can't pass a good thru pass... And any pass that get to him is mostly able to shoot on first touch... The only problem I see is no pass to him. End up he have to track back and suddenly no one in the box.
Balo is a luxury in the modern game. That's why he's no longer in the Italian team. Not first team even for Milan who's struggling in serie a
If he doesn't mind being a regular substitute. I won't mind keeping him. But looks like they trying to sell him to swanseaAllen is another player we need to decide to keep or sell. I personally prefer to keep.
He did a pretty good pass for Wales first goal.
With only 38 games and FA and league cup.
Ings, Sturridge, Benteke and Origi should be enough even including injury.
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I would think Allen wants and deserves a starting role, so I hope he plays superbly during the EURO so we can sell him for 18-20M
Agree... Just that I felt the critics on him isn't fair.All this doesn't matter cos klopp will play single striker. We seen how balo does when Rodgers played him as a sole striker.
Balo is a luxury in the modern game. That's why he's no longer in the Italian team. Not first team even for Milan who's struggling in serie a
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its just we don't play the style that suits their game.
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Benteke should go to Chelsea cos Conte will play 3 3 4.
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4 in front with 2 strikers and 2 wingers swinging in
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Agree... Just that I felt the critics on him isn't fair.
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ha we can't deny the bestest man's tactics didn't suit Balo. But as a modern footballer whereby most teams play only 1 striker, nowadays striker must be good at everything.
Before Benteke moved to Liverpool his manager at Villa
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its very clear he is no Luis Suarez and never will be.
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As far as Mario is concerned, I don't see his behaviour as a problem. The problem with him appears to be him not wanting to play to the best of his ability when pulling on a LFC shirt. It's not about his behaviour on and off the field, it's about his hunger and desire to do the LFC shirt proud.
for what i see, he tried his best in a liverpool shirt.. he was managed by worst man for the job to play in a way which dun suit him.
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i agree he cannot play as lone striker but neither can sturridge. even bentake supposed to be best at playing lone striker to bring AM into attacking third is floundering as they simply do not run channels. these are pure strikers. service them, they will score us goals
but hamsik is good. i dont mind him coming over.
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My 1-0 bro share same view as me.for what i see, he tried his best in a liverpool shirt.. he was managed by worst man for the job to play in a way which dun suit him.
i agree he cannot play as lone striker but neither can sturridge. even bentake supposed to be best at playing lone striker to bring AM into attacking third is floundering as they simply do not run channels. these are pure strikers. service them, they will score us goals
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