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According to our PS-"Eye"...it is getting worst.
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Slowly, but surely. Like Vivian recently said, "it will only get worst before getting better".. tok rubbish.
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best is psi 2000 for 3 months
consperm coe $1
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best is psi 2000 for 3 months
consperm coe $1
Wait long long ah. More like COE rise because all chiong to buy car liao.
Wait long long ah. More like COE rise because all chiong to buy car liao.
Jin jialat mans
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And speaking of going to the Heart of the Problem....someone famous just did last year, and it wasn't a pleasant experience.
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This is what happens when Harrison Ford meet Indonesian Minister of Foresty...
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Full documentary here
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Why you like to use red colour in your post??
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Today haze gone again?
Today haze gone again?
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Partially. Can see barrage and nearby ships. Cant see batam.
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when there were above 900-1000 firespots, our PSI can be below 100 or the most 150 during last week
this week, they claims the firespots�have reduced >200, but our PSI hits 150 . . .
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when there were above 900-1000 firespots, our PSI can be below 100 or the most 150 during last week
this week, they claims the firespots�have reduced >200, but our PSI hits 150 . . .
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it must be the haze that coz me confused too . . .�
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Hotspots reduce because block by cloud, cannot capture.
Partially. Can see barrage and nearby ships. Cant see batam.
You cant see batam for very long time liao?!
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Today haze gone again?
It's kinda like the new normal. 100+- is consider ok now when before it was treated as hazy/unhealthy.
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Anyway, your body should tell u better if the haze is gone anot, especially if you belong to the sensitive group.
It's kinda like the new normal. 100+- is consider ok now when before it was treated as hazy/unhealthy.
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Anyway, your body should tell u better if the haze is gone anot, especially if you belong to the sensitive group.
Think my body already kinds of "�mmune" to the haze liao?! Now also don't know can my body tell me if the haze is gone or not?! Lol.
From my office, view still blur blur le.
Both are suppose to be reporting on PM2.5 but how come the readings differ so much�
http://www.haze.gov....tions#pollutant
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http://aqicn.org/cit...gapore/central/
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Indonesia treat us haze gen das liao lor�
Both are suppose to be reporting on PM2.5 but how come the readings differ so much�
http://www.haze.gov....tions#pollutant
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http://aqicn.org/cit...gapore/central/
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AQICN provides hourly update.
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NEA provides 3hrs average.
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Yahoo : Water-bombing is ineffective: Fire and Rescue Dept
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SEREMBAN: The Indonesian government�s effort of fighting forest fire that caused transboundary haze using �water-bombing� is ineffective, said Fire and Rescue Department director general Datuk Wira Wan Mohd Nor Ibrahim.
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Wan Mohd Nor said at the moment, Indonesia was keen on getting expert assistance on how to manage peat land fire as well as requesting for asset, such as airplane from Malaysia to support the operation.
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However, he said the best approach to dealing with peat fire (like in Indonesia�s case) is ground troop.
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�It is difficult to completely extinguish fire on peat land by using airplane as it only sprays water from above.
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�When deal with peat fire, we need to flood the area to douse the fire,� he told reporters at a press conference after the Kualiti Alam Sdb Bhd�s Emergency Response Command Centre (ERCC) opening ceremony at Bandar Seri Sendayan, here.
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He said the department is ready to dispatch 1,500 personnel to the different hotspots in the republic to help combat the fire.
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�We are ready to deploy and send the manpower to the different hotspots. I believe it is a more effective method.
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We help only to put out ground fires from spreading with water bombing....
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You have more than 500,000 army troop to be deployed for such purpose ...
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KNN ................ help also said until that ....
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Yahoo : Water-bombing is ineffective: Fire and Rescue Dept
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SEREMBAN: The Indonesian government�s effort of fighting forest fire that caused transboundary haze using �water-bombing� is ineffective, said Fire and Rescue Department director general Datuk Wira Wan Mohd Nor Ibrahim.
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Wan Mohd Nor said at the moment, Indonesia was keen on getting expert assistance on how to manage peat land fire as well as requesting for asset, such as airplane from Malaysia to support the operation.
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However, he said the best approach to dealing with peat fire (like in Indonesia�s case) is ground troop.
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�It is difficult to completely extinguish fire on peat land by using airplane as it only sprays water from above.
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He said the department is ready to dispatch 1,500 personnel to the different hotspots in the republic to help combat the fire.
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LOL! I thought the news report from yesterday mentioned that they had put out 85% of the fires???!
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So in reality, it is the 15% that is causing the "real" haze.�
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Indon = �goblok
AQICN provides hourly update.
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NEA provides 3hrs average.
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NEA give one quite bulls**t... try to dig your nose and check it can liao..
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Both are suppose to be reporting on PM2.5 but how come the readings differ so much�
http://www.haze.gov....tions#pollutant
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http://aqicn.org/cit...gapore/central/
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FAQ� - Singapore PSI and PM2.5 AQI: Why is there a difference between the two readings?
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http://aqicn.org/faq...e-two-readings/
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Did you read this line?
Please note that this article was orginally written in June 2013.In April 2014, the Singapore NEA has updated the PSI calculation to also include PM2.5.
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As i said previously, the diff is AQICN is hourly updated and NEA is 3 hour average.
Did you read this line?
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Please note that this article was orginally written in June 2013.
In April 2014, the Singapore NEA has updated the PSI calculation to also include PM2.5.�
As i said previously, the diff is AQICN is hourly updated and NEA is 3 hour average.
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The 2014 update does not change the nature of the measurement since the conversion from NEA data to AQI remains the same.
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Further down the FAQ, the difference between NEA and AQICN is explained. You will need to use the online converter to get the comparison correct.
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Try http://airnow.gov/in...s.conc_aqi_calc
The 2014 update does not change the nature of the measurement since the conversion from NEA data to AQI remains the same.
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Further down the FAQ, the difference between NEA and AQICN is explained. You will need to use the online converter to get the comparison correct.
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Did you really read it?
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Before April 2014, NEA PSI do not include PM2.5.
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Now, there is no difference btw NEA & AQICN in term of calculation.
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The only diff is:
NEA provides 3 hr average
AQICN provides hourly number.
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Did you really read it?
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Before April 2014, NEA PSI do not include PM2.5.
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Now, there is no difference btw NEA & AQICN in term of calculation.
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The only diff is:
NEA provides 3 hr average
AQICN provides hourly number.
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Simple really. Let's look at the origin question:
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Both are suppose to be reporting on PM2.5 but how come the readings differ so much�
http://www.haze.gov....tions#pollutant
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http://aqicn.org/cit...gapore/central/
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Which one more reliable???
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Notice the 2 mentioned sites ? Open both sites.
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Note AQICN reads Haze gov reads central 104.
http://wgt.aqicn.org...JKixBz91DwA.png
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While NEA reads 37.
http://www.haze.gov....tions#pollutant
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Both taken at 4pm from same central location.
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Now go to conversion site http://airnow.gov/in...s.conc_aqi_calc
Select a Pollutant: "PM2.5 - ...."
Next "Enter the Concentration" with 37
Click "calculate"
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What's the AQI figure ?
Simple really. Let's look at the origin question:
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Notice the 2 mentioned sites ? Open both sites.
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Note AQICN reads Haze gov reads central 104.
http://wgt.aqicn.org...JKixBz91DwA.png
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While NEA reads 37.
http://www.haze.gov....tions#pollutant
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Both taken at 4pm from same central location.
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Now go to conversion site http://airnow.gov/in...s.conc_aqi_calc
Select a Pollutant: "PM2.5 - ...."
Next "Enter the Concentration" with 37
Click "calculate"
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What's the AQI figure ?
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My bad!
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WOT alert
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How NEA calc PSI
http://www.haze.gov....index-(psi).pdf
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How AQI is calculated
https://en.wikipedia...r_quality_index
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Note the different break points used.
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Breakpoints used by AQICN
http://aqicn.org/faq...qi-breakpoints/
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Websites such as AQICN, fuzzyview uses data from NEA.
here we go again
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Whoa, seems like no matter what topic or issue ppl are always obsessed with numbers. I rather use my senses.
Whoa, seems like no matter what topic or issue ppl are always obsessed with numbers. I rather use my senses.
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How to use senses?
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I did not smell anything le.
Haze come back again?!
Haze come back again?!
Don't know le, suddenly turned bad
Haze come back again?!
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It never left.
My bad!
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My pleasure. Glad that we clear the air (punt)
Cant believe haze until today still unsolved. Haze has been here since Aug!
Weather is felt so warm. Weather forecast seen is 34deg for next few days, last time October don't seems to be so hot.
Haze is back again today. 3hr PSI at 12pm already 118.
Weather is felt so warm. Weather forecast seen is 34deg for next few days, last time October don't seems to be so hot.
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Greenhouse effect, with all the particles suspended in midair.
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Morning still ok, but since noon the haze get worse again! Suppose to go park walk walk, now also cannot.
now 162
now 162
Cant go exercise.
Haze is back ... have to cancel makan at Satay club ..
Sianz...
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Now, just stay indoors to enjoy hor fun and fried rice...
Oh well... cheaper hor :)
Haze is back ... have to cancel makan at Satay club ..
Sianz...
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Now, just stay indoors to enjoy hor fun and fried rice...
Oh well... cheaper hor :)
Lol, nowadays unpredictable haze always resulted as last minute appointment changes or cancellation.
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Think the haze better now as compared to afternoon.
Think the haze better now as compared to afternoon.
expect tomorrow will get worse.
expect tomorrow will get worse.
Again?!
Even with the international help, still not much improvement. I think the only solution is to wait for the rain to come.
Typhoon would be better.
Typhoon would be better.
Say properly hor. Typhoon where?�
Say properly hor. Typhoon where?
In Vietnam lah
Last night before midnight, the haze�was 182 ....
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Now outside according to NEA was 136 but doesn't look like that ...
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Weather prediction isn't a exact science.
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Even with super computers, metrologist still need to struggle with unpredicable wind pattern during this ending phase of SW monsoon season. Anyway, NEA forecast a wetter Nov once NE monsoon strengthen, that's when this year's haze season will end over Singapore.
This is how Mother nature warns us when She is unhappy.
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Wait till She gets mad...
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This haze is man made. Nothing to do with mother nature.
Say properly hor. Typhoon where?�
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Actually, this sudden increase of PSI over the last few days is a direct cause of a huge typhoon now over the Philippines over the weekend.
That extreme low pressure region basically sucks air within thousands of km circumtrance to the eye of the storm.
Hence atmosphere of Indonesia basically gets stronger, increasing haze density in the north.
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Wind track whem Typhoon Vongfong over Phillipoines Oct 2014.
Noticed the stronger draft towards to system's eye ?
This kind of haze sure affect open concept malls like hillv2, star vista and greenwich
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Was at Hillv2 on the weekend. Last time I went was when it just opened. Noticed Black Angus and a Good Morning Nanyang-like coffee shop have closed. Seems like construction still ongoing, car park entrance and exit still a bit awkward.
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If not for the haze, I find Star Vista and Hillv2 pleasant to walk walk and have cuppa.
This haze is man made. Nothing to do with mother nature.
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Certainly it does, no question about it.
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However, to ignore the general climatic changes in the long term while only focus on the regional weather pattern for the short term is kind of like examing an elephant with an magnifying glass.
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Remember this ?
http://www.straitsti...tches-dry-spell
Was at Hillv2 on the weekend. Last time I went was when it just opened. Noticed Black Angus and a Good Morning Nanyang-like coffee shop have closed. Seems like construction still ongoing, car park entrance and exit still a bit awkward.
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If not for the haze, I find Star Vista and Hillv2 pleasant to walk walk and have cuppa.
Orh, 2 eatery have closed down at hillv2? I find hillv2 quite a nice quiet mall to hang around, but the only thing that can do there is 'parked' myself at one of the caf�, or else nothing much to shop and see. Unlike star vista still have some shops to look see besides eatery.
Orh, 2 eatery have closed down at hillv2? I find hillv2 quite a nice quiet mall to hang around, but the only thing that can do there is 'parked' myself at one of the caf�, or else nothing much to shop and see. Unlike star vista still have some shops to look see besides eatery.
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wanted to park myself at Starbucks ... full�at�3pm�... so parked myself at Cedele instead.
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Star Vista also have eateries that have left ... I like the coffee at Jamaican Blue (or is it Blue Jamaica)�but they have ceased business.
How I wish typhoon Koppu change it course and move downward to South East Asia instead of North to Taiwan ......
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Yahoo : Philippines warns Typhoon Koppu could linger for days
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Philippine authorities on Saturday warned that a powerful typhoon will likely linger over the country for almost three days, bringing prolonged heavy rain, possible floods and sparking storm surges.
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Typhoon Koppu, possibly the second most powerful storm to strike the disaster-prone country this year, is expected to make landfall early Sunday and will not leave the archipelago until Tuesday, the government weather station said.
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Weather station director Espie Cayanan said the storm, which has sustained winds of 160 kilometres (100 miles) per hour and gusts of 195 kilometres per hour, could strengthen as it gets closer to the country.
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How come in Oct still have typhoon?
How come in Oct still have typhoon?
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Oct to Dec, North East Monsoon season .....
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Those like to go open sea fishing will tell you that during this months, South China Sea high waves and rough water. If your fishing boat not more then 6 meters better don't go out to the sea during this time. Experience fishermen also can get sea-sick during this time cos of constant rocking in the waves.
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But also during this time, plentiful of "Sua Low" aka blue tail prawn and "Ang Kar" aka red legs prawn which can reach until the size of 12 inches and the body diameter of 1.5 inches. They are crossing from the warmer water of the Antartic�Ocean (Summer in south hemisphere) to colder water in the North to spawn.
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This was once my favourite catching prawn time but in the 80's & early 90's. All my kakis have hang up thier hobbies due to age....
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How come in Oct still have typhoon?
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Some meteorologists predicted in earlier that 2015 is going to be another interesting season due stronger El Ni�o effect this year.
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Generally, it means the climatic change across the Pacific has direct relation with how intense our regional haze will be.
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We can see that correlation based on 1997 when severe haze hit us during that El Ni�o year + more extreme typhoons.
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Number of Super Typhoons May Challenge Record
The 2015 typhoon season is on pace to surpass average numbers, but could challenge the record number of super typhoons since 1959, due in a large part to El Ni�o.
El Ni�o is forecast to remain strong through the fall and will keep waters warmer than average in the part of the Pacific Ocean where tropical systems usually develop. The rising air in this region leads to a high probability of tropical system formation.
During 1965 and 1997 seasons, there were 11 super typhoons. AccuWeather meteorologists are forecasting nine super typhoons this year, which will be the third most active season on record. This number is up two from the May prediction, due to the high number of super typhoons thus far (six).
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http://www.accuweath...rought/52075743
Wear N95 lor if going mallsCan still go to these malls but hide inside their eatery lor. Today haze doesn't seems good also.
Haha
Was at Hillv2 on the weekend. Last time I went was when it just opened. Noticed Black Angus and a Good Morning Nanyang-like coffee shop have closed. Seems like construction still ongoing, car park entrance and exit still a bit awkward.
If not for the haze, I find Star Vista and Hillv2 pleasant to walk walk and have cuppa.
I have yet to visit Hillv2
But i love starvista because its not too crowded and dining option pretty good.
Edited by Thaiyotakamli, 19 October 2015 - 12:08 PM.
Wear N95 lor if going malls
Haha
I have yet to visit Hillv2
But i love starvista because its not too crowded and dining option pretty good.
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if you avoid the weekend church and concert crowd
Inormally go during weekdays haha
The haze cleared up a lot liao!!! I can see the ships and almost batam.
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This morning everything was in a haze.
PSI 95 now!
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The haze cleared up a lot liao!!! I can see the ships and almost batam.
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This morning everything was in a haze.
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I can see Sentosa Cove now.
The haze cleared up a lot liao!!! I can see the ships and almost batam.
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This morning everything was in a haze.
You can see almost batam? This is a miracle.
Apparently the typhoon in the Philippines is sucking all the haze in that direction. �Haze has now reached Sulawesi and Mariana Islands in the Pacific.
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http://www.radionz.c...affeccting-cnmi
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Apparently the typhoon in the Philippines is sucking all the haze in that direction. �Haze has now reached Sulawesi and Mariana Islands in the Pacific.
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No use.... Haze must go to Jarkarta then guarantee overnight all fires gone
So the typhoon in the Philippines blow the haze away from us?
So the typhoon in the Philippines blow the haze away from us?
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Suck rather then blow ....
Suck rather then blow ....
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Blow means suck right?�
Suck rather then blow ....
So today is suck, thats why haze improved and yesterday was blow, so haze worsen?!
Blow means suck right?�
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One is take in�(suck) while the other giving (blow)�..
So today is suck, thats why haze improved and yesterday was blow, so haze worsen?!
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Hopefully the typhoon will continue to suck the haze away from us. Lol.
Hopefully the typhoon will continue to suck the haze away from us. Lol.
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No worries, it is gonna stays in Philippines for days ....
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So the next 3 days, clear blue sky ...
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Now PSI at 87 and by tonight, below 50 .......
No worries, it is gonna stays in Philippines for days ....
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So the next 3 days, clear blue sky ...
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Now PSI at 87 and by tonight, below 50 .......
Even it gonna stay in Philippines for days, but it must suck than blow hor. If not our sky will become like yesterday liao.
Even it gonna stay in Philippines for days, but it must suck than blow hor. If not our sky will become like yesterday liao.
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http://www.todayonli...ils-douse-fires
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JAKARTA � Indonesian forest fires that have caused choking smoke to drift across Southeast Asia are spreading to new areas and are unlikely to be put out until next year, experts said today (Oct 19).
Indonesia has come under increased pressure from its neighbours to contain the annual �haze� crisis, which is caused by slash-and-burn agriculture practices, largely on Sumatra and Kalimantan.
�But it has failed to put out the fires, with �hot spots� growing in eastern parts of the country and industry officials and analysts estimating the smoke will last until early 2016.
�Maybe it will last until December and January,� said Mr Herry Purnomo, a scientist at the Center for International Forestry Research, adding that hot spots had reached Papua, a region that usually avoids widespread fires.
�It is because people are opening new agriculture areas, like palm oil,� he said.
A senior official at a company active in Indonesia�s forested areas said the haze could continue until March.
Indonesia usually enters its wet season in October and November, but this year the country is expected to face moderate El Nino dry conditions which could strengthen until December and may hinder efforts to control the fires.
Indonesia�s national disaster management agency has made several forecasts for when the forest fires will be brought under control, many of which have now passed, but their latest target date is early November.
On the ground, NASA satellites detected 1,729 fire alerts across Indonesia on Wednesday, a national holiday, more than any single day in the last two years.
About half of the fires during the last week have been on carbon-rich peat land areas, mostly in South Sumatra, South and Central Kalimantan, Sulawesi and Papua.
Indonesian President Joko Widodo has increased government efforts to tackle the haze in recent weeks, making several visits to the worst-hit areas and asking other countries for help, but apparently to little avail.
�We all know that the burned areas are now widening beyond normal conditions,� Mr Widodo told reporters yesterday. �...the efforts to extinguish the fires are ongoing now both by land and air. We have to be patient because the burned areas is now wide.� REUTERS
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when the north winds comes, all the fire will auto shut down
I thought that's the problem with el nino year? That the monsoon will be delayed.
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So it's really a matter of "when" it will come.
Haz gen das come again.. feeling sick again~
I thought that's the problem with el nino year? That the monsoon will be delayed.
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Indonesian forest fires that have caused choking smoke to drift across Southeast Asia are spreading to new areas and are unlikely to be put out until next year, experts said on Monday.
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JAKARTA: Indonesian forest fires that have caused choking smoke to drift across Southeast Asia are spreading to new areas and are unlikely to be put out until next year, experts said on Monday.
Indonesia has come under increased pressure from its neighbours to contain the annual "haze" crisis, which is caused by slash-and-burn agriculture practices, largely on Sumatra and Kalimantan.
But it has failed to put out the fires, with "hot spots" growing in eastern parts of the country and industry officials and analysts estimating the smoke will last until early 2016.
"Maybe it will last until December and January," said Herry Purnomo, a scientist at the Center for International Forestry Research, adding that hot spots had reached Papua, a region that usually avoids widespread fires.
"It is because people are opening new agriculture areas, like palm oil," he said.
A senior official at a company active in Indonesia's forested areas said the haze could continue until March.
Indonesia usually enters its wet season in October and November, but this year the country is expected to face moderate El Nino dry conditions which could strengthen until December and may hinder efforts to control the fires.
Indonesia's national disaster management agency has made several forecasts for when the forest fires will be brought under control, many of which have now passed, but their latest target date is early November.
On the ground, NASA satellites detected 1,729 fire alerts across Indonesia on Wednesday, a national holiday, more than any single day in the last two years.
About half of the fires during the last week have been on carbon-rich peat land areas, mostly in South Sumatra, South and Central Kalimantan, Sulawesi and Papua.
Indonesian President Joko Widodo has increased government efforts to tackle the haze in recent weeks, making several visits to the worst-hit areas and asking other countries for help, but apparently to little avail.
"We all know that the burned areas are�now widening beyond normal conditions," Widodo told reporters on Sunday. "...the efforts to extinguish the fires are ongoing now both by land and air. We have to be patient because the burned areas�is now wide."
(Additional reporting by Bernadette Christina and Agustinus Beo Da Costa; Reporting by Michael Taylor; Editing by Nick Macfie)
- Reuters
The 2 typhoon in the south China sea and Pacific ocean also sucking air into it.
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very strong smell at the west area
And psi level only 80
I think its 280 lor
*Choke* .....
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Smells like PSI400 out there. So sudden.
very strong smell at the west area
Same here at central. Very very hazy. I think shoot till 180+psi.
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Nothing left to say liao....
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Don't want to act fast lah, don't want to receive our help, talk big, hao lian lah.
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By next year, Indonesia will have nothing left to burn. All razed to the ground.
One moment very good, next moment very bad.....unpredictable
8pm 3 hour pm2.5 is 51.
9pm its 164.
Do the math!
0k. Maths question. Based on 3 hours pm2.5
7pm is 48
8pm is 51
9pm is 164
Primary six question.
What is the exact reading at 9pm?
west betterer liao, but north worser
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wonder how much SG has to donate to the indo "haze fighting fund" again... farking corrupt c-unts need to have their SG private bank accts raided
wonder how much SG has to donate to the indo "haze fighting fund" again... farking corrupt c-unts need to have their SG private bank accts raided
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see Jib-kor's donation for an estimate of the market-rate�
3H PSI now at 209
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unfortunately the 3Hr PSI isn't really useful when the measured parameter(s) spike. It has a smoothening effect.
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Hope wind condition changes soon .... to blow away the haze
burning continue and enlarge into other area
wind is blowing to spore & msia direction
listen to the news that no rain is expected to continue till nov/dec� .... siao liao !!!
in spore only punish APP ... must punish more companies ... boycott and revoke license
indon being indon ... nothing can be done la ... just checkout the harrison ford video ...
a few richard mile watches can solve many problems liao ...
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This morning back to unhealthy levels, why the haze was suddenly so horrendous last night......very strange......
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Carolyn Khew
The one-hour PM2.5 reading hit 442 for the west of Singapore at 10pm yesterday - believed to be the highest reading this year.
Elsewhere during the hour, readings ranged from 51 to 299, with the southern and central parts of Singapore recording 299 and 130 respectively. PM2.5 refers to particles that are 2.5 microns or smaller. The 24-hour Pollutant Standards Index (PSI) stood at 101-136 in the unhealthy range, while the three-hour PSI was 152 as of 10pm.
The National Environment Agency said hazy conditions are likely to persist in the next 24 hours, with the 24-hour PSI expected to be in the low- to mid-section of the unhealthy range.
Meanwhile, the Singapore team sent to Indonesia to help tackle the haze-causing fires has performed 47 water-bombing operations and put out about 35 hot spots in Indonesia since it joined multinational efforts to douse the fires raging there.
Related Story
Haze crisis could persist into new year, say experts
In a Facebook post yesterday, Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen said it has been a team effort for the 40 personnel from the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) and Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) who arrived more than a week ago in Palembang.
Dr Ng said: "They know the task is difficult and that it is hard to put out fires without the help of rain. But the SAF's presence as part of a multinational effort does send a strong signal that there is international attention and support as Indonesia seeks to address the problem of transboundary haze which has affected many neighbouring countries."
He said one of the team members is a full-time national serviceman who volunteered for the mission.
On Oct 10, the SAF sent a 34-strong team to Indonesia, accompanied by a six- man Disaster Assistance and Rescue Team from the SCDF. Also deployed was a CH-47D Chinook helicopter and two C-130 planes.
Australia and Malaysia are also helping in the firefighting efforts.
yeah ... do not overlook PM2.5 reading
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PSI reading shows how hazy the environment ... ie: smoky
PM2.5 reading shows the particles (mainly harmful) in the air ...
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PM2.5 can be high (dangerous) even PSI reading is low-to-moderate
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One-hour PM2.5 reading soars to year's high of 442
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The one-hour PM2.5 reading hit 442 for the west of Singapore at 10pm yesterday - believed to be the highest reading this year.�
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Wah.. those staying in the West who went to sleep at 8pm last nite with windows opened jialat...
What you can't see kills you faster.�
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yeah ... do not overlook PM2.5 reading
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PSI reading shows how hazy the environment ... ie: smoky
PM2.5 reading shows the particles (mainly harmful) in the air ...
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PM2.5 can be high (dangerous) even PSI reading is low-to-moderate
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What you can't see kills you faster.�
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yah man....came upon the air like a plague last night...scary
If they sleep at 8pm, they already should have more sleep than anyone else. Quite a good life already.�
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Wah.. those staying in the West who went to sleep at 8pm last nite with windows opened jialat...
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must also pity the children in indonesia
because of the crooks and greeds
if PM2.5 is 442 in spore ... what is the reading in affected areas in indon?
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Smokers no need to smoke last night. Just go outdoors do jumping jets shiok liao.
This morning laliao say last night 11pm+ the PM 2.5 soot till 471� !!
Yeah, the scariest thing is look out the window it doesn't feel like 400 at all, doesn't even look like 200. Or maybe I am not West enough.�
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yah man....came upon the air like a plague last night...scary
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If they sleep at 8pm, they already should have more sleep than anyone else. Quite a good life already.�
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not necessary mah, maybe they have to wake up at 3am for early morning shift..
must also pity the children in indonesia
because of the crooks and greeds
if PM2.5 is 442 in spore ... what is the reading in affected areas in indon?
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Well............ they (parents) voted for it.
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Vote for the gov who does not care about their well being and let lands to be burnt. They (gov) just wait & wait until the fire is out of control and then request for help....
Sengkang is really good now and Ya Pri sch is having e learning till Friday.
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is that the Sengkang Riverside park?
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Just like to see one of Indon Minister comes out to admit, "Honest Mistake" letting the fire burn out of control....
Sengkang is really good now and Ya Pri sch is having e learning till Friday.
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yah man....came upon the air like a plague last night...scary
Good to see your post....
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You survived!
Good to see your post....
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You survived!
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eh die aldy, how to die again?
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wa lau you....kekekekek
Looks like cannot stay west, cause when haze worsen west side always is the worst psi reading.
Only pre-school, primary and secondary close school.. Then ITE, poly and uni not human ah?? like unfair ley
Only pre-school, primary and secondary close school.. Then ITE, poly and uni not human ah?? like unfair ley
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Older kids got better health resistance and not get sick easily? Younger kids more vulnerable.
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Same as boarding aeroplane, old ppl and ppl with young kids board first. The rest of the passengers or older kids not human?
Older kids got better health resistance and not get sick easily? Younger kids more vulnerable.
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Same as boarding aeroplane, old ppl and ppl with young kids board first. The rest of the passengers or older kids not human?
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and some of my 'passengers' go cargo too le....
Older kids got better health resistance and not get sick easily? Younger kids more vulnerable.
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Same as boarding aeroplane, old ppl and ppl with young kids board first. The rest of the passengers or older kids not human?
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See...unfair lor..
See...unfair lor..
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erm, so you want the whole country to shut down ?�
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but hey you are right, life IS unfair�
erm, so you want the whole country to shut down ?�
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but hey you are right, life IS unfair�
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not like this. I mean poly, ite and uni also student mah?? like that is unfair.. They also human mah.. they also study hard to come out to the work life one ..�
not like this. I mean poly, ite and uni also student mah?? like that is unfair.. They also human mah.. they also study hard to come out to the work life one ..�
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poly & uni not everyday and every hour got class one, and they are adult, they can wear mask and take precaution. Like that also must explain to you.
poly & uni not everyday and every hour got class one, and they are adult, they can wear mask and take precaution. Like that also must explain to you.
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Poly everyday have class depend on what course you take.. Bo bian lor mod come liao.. time to run away~
not like this. I mean poly, ite and uni also student mah?? like that is unfair.. They also human mah.. they also study hard to come out to the work life one ..�
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If I take part time courses, am I a student?
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Driving centre learners not student? Tution centre no students? Enrichment class no students?
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You like that say, everywhere also close down cos everywhere got students.
What he meant is everything should closed down if haze reached to certain unhealthy level. Lol.
If I take part time courses, am I a student?
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Driving centre learners not student? Tution centre no students? Enrichment class no students?
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You like that say, everywhere also close down cos everywhere got students.
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Under MOE register, Driving school, tution centre, enrichment is MOE one?? No what?? LOL
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I also take part time courses but is not register under moe one.. But I can buy student meal wor.. ��
unfortunately the 3Hr PSI isn't really useful when the measured parameter(s) spike. It has a smoothening effect.
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I always check on the hourly PM2.5 instead of the 3hr average PSI.
If you refer to the hourly PM2.5, you can see the sharp increase from 8pm of PM2.5 50+ to 11pm 471 for the west side.
Yeah, the scariest thing is look out the window it doesn't feel like 400 at all, doesn't even look like 200. Or maybe I am not West enough.�
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I am staying in Seng Kang. Last night when the west PM2.5 was 400++, I had my house aircon ON.
Occasionally open the window to check out, view is still clear and no smell of haze at Seng Kang. So lucky.�
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Poly everyday have class depend on what course you take.. Bo bian lor mod come liao.. time to run away~
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no need to runaway.....
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poly and uni LT and class room all got aircon, many pri sch and sec sch classroom still do not have air con.�
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Like that explain can?
no need to runaway.....
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poly and uni LT and class room all got aircon, many pri sch and sec sch classroom still do not have air con.�
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Like that explain can?
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you win liao lor.. sec 3-5 have aircon liao hahaXD�
you win liao lor.. sec 3-5 have aircon liao hahaXD�
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if i can name some school dun have how?
Great place to live!
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I will live there if I do not need to work in the west.�
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For now, have to trust that Joko will make good his promise in 3 years, provided he is still around. Haha...
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I am staying in Seng Kang. Last night when I west PM2.5 was 400++, I had my house aircon ON.
Occasionally open the window to check out, view is still clear and no smell of haze at Seng Kang. So lucky.�
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Poly everyday have class depend on what course you take.. Bo bian lor mod come liao.. time to run away~
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Poly class should be mostly aircon enviroment.
Most Primary and Secondary still no aircon room.
My house has no air-con also like that survive the haze.
you win liao lor.. sec 3-5 have aircon liao hahaXD�
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My daughter school sec 3 still no aircon.
Only sec 4 got aircon.
And I believe some older school sec 4 also no aircon.
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if i can name some school dun have how?
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Most of the school have upgrade liao bah.. How even my lousy school also have it.. For sec 3 above. hmm.. that my bad.�
My daughter school sec 3 still no aircon.
Only sec 4 got aircon.
And I believe some older school sec 4 also no aircon.
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poly & uni not everyday and every hour got class one, and they are adult, they can wear mask and take precaution. Like that also must explain to you.
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I thot poly and uni don't need govt to declare. They sometimes self declare.... That's was my uni days in the 90s...
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My daughter school sec 3 still no aircon.
Only sec 4 got aircon.
And I believe some older school sec 4 also no aircon.
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wow, didn't know now Sec sch has aircon classrooms !! I'm so out of touch !! So I can safely assume JCs confirmed have ?�
Most of the school have upgrade liao bah.. How even my lousy school also have it.. For sec 3 above. hmm.. that my bad.�
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May i know which school by the way??�
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Edgefield Secondary at Punggol.
Only a 5yrs old school. Only Sec 4 class room have aircon.
wow, didn't know now Sec sch has aircon classrooms !! I'm so out of touch !! So I can safely assume JCs confirmed have ?�
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JC I have no idea.. I not that smart hahaXD
Edgefield Secondary at Punggol.
Only a 5yrs old school. Only Sec 4 class room have aircon.
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New school should have a better quality of environment to study.. �hmmm my bad..�
My kids' sec school all classrooms don't have aircon, regardless of level. �Sec 1-5 all no air con!
My kids' sec school all classrooms don't have aircon, regardless of level. �Sec 1-5 all no air con!
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May I know which school??�
May I know which school??�
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CHIJ Sec Toa Payoh.
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D12 or mountain cat king ?�
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the kind, open, only 1 seed edible
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kena smoke, like the haze...hahahah
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Jman888 save your breath, you old liao, wait i less 1 mod how?
CHIJ Sec Toa Payoh.
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Well know school, but no aircon..�
My secondary school lousy still have it.. my bad~
JC I have no idea.. I not that smart hahaXD
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New school should have a better quality of environment to study.. �hmmm my bad..�
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Staying long hours in aircon environment is not necessary good for children.
I prefer the class room to be well ventilated and with sufficient fan will be better.
D12 or mountain cat king ?�
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I will help to complaint to MOE, see whether can help out the school for upgrading.. that why I try to look out which school don't have it.�
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I will help to complaint to MOE, see whether can help out the school for upgrading.. that why I try to look out which school don't have it.�
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come...i give you better ones to contact...
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Sengkang that is more eastwards is still susceptible to haze from kalimantan, though due to distance, usually it's not as jialat as west from sumatra, so in a game of haze roulette, the odds are just lower.
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NEA 1hr PM2.5 is still slightly delayed. Want really up to date, look at�http://www.apaq-group.com/#!haze-monitoring/c1r02 (for AMK only) or visit HWZ thread for those that use their own meters, where they will announce their raw readings and location.
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These readings are not normalised/calibrated, but at least in relation to normal concentration, you can know that there is a spike and take necessary action for sensitive group (on purifier, put on mask, tell kid/elderly go home/stay indoors).
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Don't wait for govt to do something for you. Your health is yours to protect.
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Haha thank bro, I don't need it.. I still got a better way of it..
Sengkang that is more eastwards is still susceptible to haze from kalimantan, though due to distance, usually it's not as jialat as west from sumatra, so in a game of haze roulette, the odds are just lower.
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NEA 1hr PM2.5 is still slightly delayed. Want really up to date, look at�http://www.apaq-group.com/#!haze-monitoring/c1r02 (for AMK only) or visit HWZ thread for those that use their own meters, where they will announce their raw readings and location.
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These readings are not normalised/calibrated, but at least in relation to normal concentration, you can know that there is a spike and take necessary action for sensitive group (on purifier, put on mask, tell kid/elderly go home/stay indoors).
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Don't wait for govt to do something for you. Your health is yours to protect.
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My eye and nose is my �sensor�
Haha thank bro, I don't need it.. I still got a better way of it..
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Hmmmm............. direct to the Ministar ...
�Don't forget, there arer 2 now, lower education and upper education ....
My eye and nose is my �sensor�
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Hmmmm............. direct to the Ministar ...
�Don't forget, there arer 2 now, lower education and upper education ....
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Haha direct to him got use meh?? �haha�
Some other ways of it, much better�
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Is the indicator ...
is that the Sengkang Riverside park?
Nearby
It's the infamous Fernvale Lea hahaha
Oct to Mar ... that's 6 months !!!
i'm very concerned on how much singapore gdp is affected by 6 freaking months of HAZE !
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Oct to Mar ... that's 6 months !!!
i'm very concerned on how much singapore gdp is affected by 6 freaking months of HAZE !
I believe the wind direction should start to change early next month...by then we should be safe already.
I believe the wind direction should start to change early next month...by then we should be safe already.
The haze is back. I just returned from my run 30 mins ago and I smelled it. It wasn't half as bad as last evening though
Redmart to stop carrying APP products following haze allegations
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SINGAPORE - Online groceries retailer RedMart announced on Monday (Oct 19) that all paper products sourced from the Asia Pulp & Paper Group (APP) would be withdrawn from sale, over the company's purported links to Indonesian forest fires causing the haze.
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Redmart is the latest in a line of retailers to stop selling APP products. Supermarket chains FairPrice, Sheng Siong and Prime stopped carrying the company's paper products earlier this month.
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http://www.straitsti...aze-allegations
Oct to Mar ... that's 6 months !!!
i'm very concerned on how much singapore gdp is affected by 6 freaking months of HAZE !
............jia lat le like that............i m starting to hope some magic will blow the haze away
My outdoor activities have been limited during haze and increasingly becoming unlimited, how not to live normally huh for prolonged periods huh.......
why only APP is named and shamed and boycott
what about other companies?
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hopefully ... but we cannot always depends on wind direction
that's indon thinking ... burn burn burn and hopefully the wind will blow away the haze ... and keep burning
must condemn, fine and prosecute every singapore company that involved in indon burning land ...
there is no end to this ... remove green label mark ... so what ... can anyhow create subsidiary or shell company in indon ...
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I believe the wind direction should start to change early next month...by then we should be safe already.
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why only APP is named and shamed and boycott
what about other companies?
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If name all, we got no more tissue &�toilet papers how ?
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why APP is singled out?
APP got no tok kong people sitting in their board?
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If name all, we got no more tissue & toilet papers how ?
Use newspaper ....
No surprise it is called the shitty times.
before newspaper ... there is water and left hand ...
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If name all, we got no more tissue &�toilet papers how ?
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If name all, we got no more tissue &�toilet papers how ?
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Maybe also no newspapares liao.... use water can liao
Better go hardware stores and�buy a few water spray to�keep for emergency just in case no more toilet papers on sales ..... �
New Water not good enuf?? Install Bidet lah!
It makes my blood boil to hear over the news that the fire might not be able to be put out until early next year.
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Why don't they nuke themselves and burn the whole country into ash?
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TODAY reports: The education ministry says it will "carefully re-assess our existing haze-management measures to better protect our students from the effects of haze for future haze seasons�.
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SINGAPORE: The Ministry of Education (MOE) is working with the Ministry of Health (MOH) and the National Environment Agency (NEA) to review its haze-management measures in schools, it said on Tuesday (Oct 20) in response to TODAY�s queries. �We will provide an update on the enhanced haze management measures when we have completed the review,� the ministry said.
Together with MOH and NEA, the education ministry will �carefully re-assess our existing haze-management measures to better protect our students from the effects of haze for future haze seasons�.
MOE was responding to a petition for the ministry to take immediate steps to haze-proof its schools. Started about two days ago, the petition has garnered almost 2,500 supporters as of 8am on Wednesday.
Initiated by Dr Christy Toh - a mother of two aged five and nine, the�petition on Change.org�called on MOE to make arrangements for lessons to be conducted in air-conditioned rooms with mechanical air filters and implement e-learning for �non-essential lessons� when PM2.5 concentration reaches unhealthy levels, among other things.
Support for the petition grew as both PM2.5 and three-hour Pollutant Standards Index (PSI) readings rocketed on Monday night. The one-hour PM2.5 levels hit 471 micrograms per cubic metre in western Singapore at 11pm - the highest level recorded so far this year.
PM2.5 refers to fine particles less than 2.5 microns in diameter, which can slip past the nasal passages into the lungs and blood streams. Guidelines by the World Health Organization state that there is little evidence for setting a threshold for particular matter below which there will be no adverse health effects. But, the American Environmental Protection Agency sets a 24-hour threshold for PM2.5 at a level of 35 micrograms per cubic metre.
In the petition, Dr Toh noted that children are particularly vulnerable to the haze because their respiratory systems are immature. She told TODAY: �The measures now are very inconsistent across different schools, you have teachers who say children do not need to wear masks in the classroom because classrooms are �indoors� even though the doors and windows remain open.�
Other parents whom this newspaper spoke to noted that current MOE guidelines only call for lesson plans to be modified only when the 24-hour PSI surges beyond 200, which they found inadequate.
Mdm Law Jee Wei, who has a 10-year-old son and five-year-old daughter, said she has kept her son from school for at least five times over the last two months when haze conditions worsened. �But we cannot keep doing that, we don�t want him to fall back (in his studies), and he wants to attend classes too,� she said.
Dr Leong Hoe Nam, an infectious disease doctor in private practice, said school-going children are especially vulnerable because many classrooms are not air-conditioned. �Even when we move students into an air-conditioned hall when PSI levels cross MOE�s threshold, the hall will be overcrowded and lessons cannot be conducted in an effective manner,� he said.
As part of MOE�s existing haze-management measures, all schools have sufficient enclosed spaces to cater to the students. The schools are also equipped with air purifiers for students who feel unwell or have underlying conditions. Citing the closure of schools on Sep 25, MOE said it would also consider shutting schools when the 24-hour PSI for the next day is expected to hit hazardous levels. It added: �Nevertheless, we also note that this year�s haze season is unusually prolonged, and with more episodes of elevated PSI levels than we have typically experienced in the past.�
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It makes my blood boil to hear over the news that the fire might not be able to be put out until early next year.
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It makes my blood boil to hear over the news that the fire might not be able to be put out until early next year.
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i dun think they will stop burning after starting it, this was probably in their plan for the usage of the land hence they have to do it once and for all.
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Actually come to think of it, it is the resources within their land that they can do want what they want, unfortunately the earth have to pay for it.
i dun think they will stop burning after starting it, this was probably in their plan for the usage of the land hence they have to do it once and for all.
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Actually come to think of it, it is the resources within their land that they can do want what they want, unfortunately the earth have to pay for it.
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Provincial governments have a lot of leeway nowadays after Indonesia decentralised control about 10+ years ago.
It's all just paper talk only. Their lawmakers have very little power over how things are run/done outside the capital.
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Problem is that they keep finding new land to burn. And palm trees become less productive with age. So have to burn again...
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Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter & Haze seasons .....
If name all, we got no more tissue &�toilet papers how ?
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Use water.
Better.
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especially for the old people.
less risk of getting piles.
It makes my blood boil to hear over the news that the fire might not be able to be put out until early next year.
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Why don't they nuke themselves and burn the whole country into ash?
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Really make my blood boil! This haze keeps delaying from end Oct to now early next year?
Really make my blood boil! This haze keeps delaying from end Oct to now early next year?
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I think becoz of no rain or not much of it in the coming months. When was the last time you saw heavy rain? Grass around Singapore are turning brown due to the lack of rain or water.
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Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter & Haze seasons .....
MOE too slow already.�
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Parents already share share bring air purifiers to school.
Really make my blood boil! This haze keeps delaying from end Oct to now early next year?
The Elite Singaporean Team is already helping wor but.......
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Parents already share share bring air purifiers to school.
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When haze over, will they donate the purifiers to school ...
When haze over, will they donate the purifiers to school ...
They will bring back the purifiers and then keep for next year haze period.
They will bring back the purifiers and then keep for next year haze period.
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'ah nee neow and kiam siap' one ...
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When haze over, will they donate the purifiers to school ...
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Of course to be used in our children's class room.
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So, if you happen to visit a school, do not complain why your child's class room has no purifier.�
angmoh got spring, summer, autumn, winter
we got summer and haze seasons ...
MOE to review haze management in schools
�TODAY reports: The education ministry says it will "carefully re-assess our existing haze-management measures to better protect our students from the effects of haze for future haze seasons�.
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When haze over, will they donate the purifiers to school ...
My guess is even if they want to donate, the schools might not want to own them.
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AP require filter replacements, and with ownership comes the responsibility of maintaining them.
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Imagine how many different brands and models of AP donated by parents, then factor in the effort to source for the different types of replacement filters, and make sure they are the lowest in cost.
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Too much of a hassle, imo.
angmoh got spring, summer, autumn, winter
we got summer and haze seasons ...
But this haze season is very bad for our health in long-term.
pity the ordinary people in indonesia
they suffer a lot and many die from haze
the culprits and generals are ought to be shot
joko said 3 years to solve haze ... but the people on the ground says no 50 years no talk
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They say end October haze no more, does it still stand
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So hazy, smell of burning wood, itchy throat and dry cough,�how to stand ....��
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So hazy, smell of burning wood, itchy throat and dry cough, how to stand ....
Lol stand also no use, cannot exert. I think u are hazy. Haha
HAZE...is like share market. up and down and unpredictable. There are bull runs and bear runs.
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And the so call experts and analyst�always made bad prediction. when they says haze will be better, it get worse and vice versa.
So hazy, smell of burning wood, itchy throat and dry cough,�how to stand ....��
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Since yesterday my throat like don't seem good and have some coughing, don't know it is due to the sudden haze on mon night?
now what??
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Singapore�s one-plane offer to help fight fires �insulting�
A fireman battles a peatland fire on a field in Simpang Pelabuhan Dalam, South Sumatra, Indonesia, Tuesday, July 28, 2015. Photo: AP��PUBLISHED:�10:57 PM, OCTOBER 21, 2015UPDATED:�11:05 PM, OCTOBER 21, 2015�JAKARTA � Singapore�s offer in September of only �one aircraft� to Indonesia to help fight forest fires that have caused thick haze to descend around the region was �insulting�, said Indonesian Coordinating Minister for Politics, Law and Security Luhut Binsar Pandjaitan.
Speaking in an interview last Friday (Oct 16) with the country�s Tempo magazine, Mr Luhut defended Indonesia�s perceived tardiness in putting out the fires and in accepting foreign aid.
��During the dry season, peatlands tend to be very flammable. When we bombard the land with water to put out the flames, they just come out again. So I get a headache when people get upset. What are we supposed to do?� he replied when asked why this year�s forest fires are worse than those of last year�s.
�Then someone asks why we didn�t accept the assistance offered earlier. There are many reasons for that. Firstly, we wanted to try and do it on our own. Secondly, we didn�t realise the process would be so long. Thirdly, (Singapore) offered only one aircraft. It was insulting.�
In September, Singapore offered a C-130 aircraft for cloud-seeding operations, a Chinook helicopter with a water bucket for aerial fire-fighting, and up to two C-130 aircraft to ferry the Singapore Civil Defence Force fire-fighting assistance team.
Mr Luhut�s comments in the latest issue of the magazine came after Indonesia finally accepted help from Singapore on Oct 7 after repeatedly �declining offers of help for weeks. Singapore Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen had even flown to Jakarta at the end of September to meet his Indonesian counterpart at one of the meetings. During his visit, Dr Ng also met Mr Luhut.
On October 11, aircraft from Singapore and Malaysia began water-bombing missions to put out the raging fires in South Sumatra.
Singapore sent a Republic of Singapore Armed Forces (RSAF) Chinook helicopter with a 5,000-litre heli-bucket and 34 SAF personnel to help fight the ongoing forest fires, together with a six-man Disaster Assistance and Rescue Team from the Singapore Civil Defence Force. Two RSAF C-130 aircraft were also deployed to transport SAF and SCDF personnel.
In an interview on Oct 7, Indonesian Cabinet Secretary Pramono Anung told CNN Indonesia that Jakarta had earlier rejected Singapore�s offers of assistance because it was concerned that the city state would claim credit for solving the problem, despite being worried about the rapidly deteriorating situation.
In the Tempo interview, Mr Luhut also pledged to confiscate the land and revoke the licences of big companies that practise illegal burning next year.
�This haze problem is also about injustice. When a company controls 2.8 million hectares of land, where is the justice? Then there are those who own 600,000 hectares of land but own not a single fire extinguisher. Should the government be dousing fires all the time? If we call it a national disaster, they will benefit by it.� AGENCIES
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of course insulting la ... they were expecting at least $1M (cash) or not insulting if $3M cash + RM watches
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Singapore�s one-plane offer to help fight fires �insulting�A fireman battles a peatland fire on a field in Simpang Pelabuhan Dalam, South Sumatra, Indonesia, Tuesday, July 28, 2015. Photo: AP��PUBLISHED:�10:57 PM, OCTOBER 21, 2015UPDATED:�11:05 PM, OCTOBER 21, 2015�JAKARTA � Singapore�s offer in September of only �one aircraft� to Indonesia to help fight forest fires that have caused thick haze to descend around the region was �insulting�, said Indonesian Coordinating Minister for Politics, Law and Security Luhut Binsar Pandjaitan.
Speaking in an interview last Friday (Oct 16) with the country�s Tempo magazine, Mr Luhut defended Indonesia�s perceived tardiness in putting out the fires and in accepting foreign aid.
��During the dry season, peatlands tend to be very flammable. When we bombard the land with water to put out the flames, they just come out again. So I get a headache when people get upset. What are we supposed to do?� he replied when asked why this year�s forest fires are worse than those of last year�s.
�Then someone asks why we didn�t accept the assistance offered earlier. There are many reasons for that. Firstly, we wanted to try and do it on our own. Secondly, we didn�t realise the process would be so long. Thirdly, (Singapore) offered only one aircraft. It was insulting.�
In September, Singapore offered a C-130 aircraft for cloud-seeding operations, a Chinook helicopter with a water bucket for aerial fire-fighting, and up to two C-130 aircraft to ferry the Singapore Civil Defence Force fire-fighting assistance team.
Mr Luhut�s comments in the latest issue of the magazine came after Indonesia finally accepted help from Singapore on Oct 7 after repeatedly �declining offers of help for weeks. Singapore Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen had even flown to Jakarta at the end of September to meet his Indonesian counterpart at one of the meetings. During his visit, Dr Ng also met Mr Luhut.
On October 11, aircraft from Singapore and Malaysia began water-bombing missions to put out the raging fires in South Sumatra.
Singapore sent a Republic of Singapore Armed Forces (RSAF) Chinook helicopter with a 5,000-litre heli-bucket and 34 SAF personnel to help fight the ongoing forest fires, together with a six-man Disaster Assistance and Rescue Team from the Singapore Civil Defence Force. Two RSAF C-130 aircraft were also deployed to transport SAF and SCDF personnel.
In an interview on Oct 7, Indonesian Cabinet Secretary Pramono Anung told CNN Indonesia that Jakarta had earlier rejected Singapore�s offers of assistance because it was concerned that the city state would claim credit for solving the problem, despite being worried about the rapidly deteriorating situation.
In the Tempo interview, Mr Luhut also pledged to confiscate the land and revoke the licences of big companies that practise illegal burning next year.
�This haze problem is also about injustice. When a company controls 2.8 million hectares of land, where is the justice? Then there are those who own 600,000 hectares of land but own not a single fire extinguisher. Should the government be dousing fires all the time? If we call it a national disaster, they will benefit by it.� AGENCIES
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Sent one plane, they said insulting...
If we were to send more planes, they would say "invading" their country....
KNS !
Help also say, don't help also say... win liao lor !
when offer were given ... the first thing they ask was "financial support" ...
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Sent one plane, they said insulting...
If we were to send more planes, they would say "invading" their country....
KNS !
Help also say, don't help also say... win liao lor !
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Their general fighting fire at ground zero said aircraft water bombing are useless against peat fires. He said more manpower on the ground to fight fires are more effective. The Indo minister sits in his comfortable aircon offit says one aircraft from us is insulting when we sent ground troops and aircraft to assist them. There are also non-profitable groups volunteer to help Indonesians with masks and fire fighting equipment.
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Do they know the world is watching them fumble? They still have the cheek to kpkb? So low self esteem, scared Singapore claim credit for our efforts. What a bunch of incompetent fools.
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of course insulting la ... they were expecting at least
$1M� $10M(cash) or not insulting if$3M�$30M cash + RM watches�
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Change for your, $1M where got enough. Add one more zero for you.
Companies will benefit if haze problem declared national disaster: Indonesian minister"They have 500 million pounds sterling in London banks, but they demand that we douse the flames," the Coordinating Minister for Politics, Law and Security told Indonesia's Tempo magazine.�POSTED: 21 Oct 2015 23:59 UPDATED: 22 Oct 2015 07:27��Luhut Pandjaitan (L) chats with members of the cabinet at a ceremony at the Presidential Palace in Jakarta, Indonesia August 12, 2015. REUTERS/Darren Whiteside/Files�SINGAPORE: The annual haze problem in Indonesia is about injustice, Indonesia's coordinating minister for politics, law and security Luhut Binsar Pandjaitan said.�"When a company controls 2.8 million hectares of land, where is the justice? Then there are those that own 600,000 hectares of land but own not a single fire extinguisher," he said in an interview in the Oct 25 issue of Tempo, an Indonesian weekly news magazine.�He explained authorities' reluctance to declare the haze problem a national disaster, even though air pollution levels in some Indonesian cities have reached hazardous levels at more than 2,600 API.�"Should the government be dousing fires all the time? If we call it a national disaster, they will benefit from it," he said, referring to land concession owners. "They have 500 million pounds sterling in London banks, but they demand that we douse the flames."�Mr Luhut added that his government did not accept the assistance offered by neighbouring countries earlier because they "wanted to try and do it on their own". He also said that it was "insulting" that (Singapore had) "offered only one aircraft".��The minister touched on his involvement in tackling the forest fires, which used to be managed largely by the National Disaster Management Agency. "Well, that's how the President wants it. Perhaps he feels it's too important. That's why we're doing it."�He added that President Joko Widodo has gone to the affected areas many times "so he must see it as a serious problem". ��Asked about 30 companies that have reportedly been censured for fires and Mr Luhut said "many more" will be indicted. "If it happens again next year, we will confiscate all their lands, revoke their licences," he told Tempo. "Now they don't dare do any funny business. They know I'm on their case."��- CNA/hs�
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sibei hazy this mornig
i think spore can go for smelly smelly USD$500M as a whole for causing Haze
indeed it's the worst haze for the decade ...
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sibei hazy this mornig
i think spore can go for smelly smelly USD$500M as a whole for causing Haze
indeed it's the worst haze for the decade ...
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Its haze this morning... and this has been the longest haze period that I can ever remember ....
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We should be getting some compensation from the indo garmen !
They have broken their promise of giving us 11 months clean air !
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As of now, we are only getting abt 6 months niah !
Indonesia is finding all kinds of excuses to cover this cover that, end up become everyone responsibilities for this haze
Its haze this morning... and this has been the longest haze period that I can ever remember ....
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We should be getting some compensation from the indo garmen !
They have broken their promise of giving us 11 months clean air !
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As of now, we are only getting abt 6 months niah !
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Hmmmm........ can use Lemon Law ? on them�......
Its haze this morning... and this has been the longest haze period that I can ever remember ....
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We should be getting some compensation from the indo garmen !
They have broken their promise of giving us 11 months clean air !
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As of now, we are only getting abt 6 months niah !
Really hazy this morning, hopefully this haze would not get worst or continue over the weekend! I am really getting fed up in this haze from indo!
Just got this video with its English translation. He is an Italian-born Indonesian citizen. Personal and precise description of what has been happening all this while.�
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Published on 21 Oct 2015ENGLISH VERSION:
Message from the Director of Kalaweit, to the Indonesian President, Joko Widodo
My name is Chanee, I come from Europe, but I have lived in Kalimantain for 17 years , in the central province of Palangkaraya.
I'm proud to have obtained Indonesian nationality 3 years ago, because I really love Indonesia.
But Mr President, allow me to convey to you today my anger.
I'm not angry just because my son has a respiratory infection, like hundreds of other children. I'm not angry just because thousands of people have difficulty in breathing, or because they cry and pray to be able to see the sun. I'm not angry just because the forest in Kalimantan is in the process of being destroyed.
Mr President, I'm angry because all of this suffering exists because of the palm oil industry. The decisions of both the previous governments and the current government, are at the root of this problem, which occurs every year, and today is even further aggravated by El Nino.
Earlier in June I had identified, from the sky, dozens of fires, burning in peat swamps to allow the expansion of palm plantations. At that time, before the smoke haze made headlines, these fires could still be extinguished.
But this didn't happen. The helicopter water-bomber arrived 2 months later. The teams on the ground can do little once the fires have spread, especially as they burn in peat.
The owners of the land in which fires occur will not be punished.
It's not me who'll teach you, Mr President, that corruption, nepotism, and intimidation, are common to support the expansion of palm plantations.
When you have, Mr President, made the decision to create new channels in the central province of Kalimantan, you have simply aggravated the situation even further. These channels will drain water from the forest, creating even drier conditions to exacerbate and accelerate the next fires.
Mr President, I'm angry, not simply as an activist for the environment, but also as a father, husband, and someone who really loves Indonesia.
Slowly, the leaders of these fires steal our health.
Is this what you want Mr President? For the Palm Oil Industry?
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Are we lucky...
heng.... ah... that's pretty close, bro.....but not for long... :)
just a random thought when trying to search for a positive side to all these haze.
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is the haze killing mosquitoes?
is there a reduction on rate of ppl getting dengue in SG during this hazy period?
is the haze working like fumigation on a national level?
they keep talking abt APP, wat abt robert kuok's wilmar, golden agri, indo agri etc?
Edited by Duckduck, 23 October 2015 - 10:37 AM.
for this shit to stop
shit really needs to hit the fan
999999psi for 3 months
consperm shit will never burn again
is the haze killing mosquitoes?
is there a reduction on rate of ppl getting dengue in SG during this hazy period?
is the haze working like fumigation on a national level?
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Just because they look alike, doesn't mean they are alike.
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One way they are alike, though: you should not breathe in either.
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Holy chit, south side is worse than it has been in quite awhile.
only APP slash and burn in indon?
they keep talking abt APP, wat abt robert kuok's wilmar, golden agri, indo agri etc?
Holy chit, south side is worse than it has been in quite awhile.
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just a random thought when trying to search for a positive side to all these haze.
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is the haze killing mosquitoes?
is there a reduction on rate of ppl getting dengue in SG during this hazy period?
is the haze working like fumigation on a national level?
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The haze are chasing the bees away.
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My flowering plants had not bloom for the past one month where it suppose to bloom every month.
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Couldn't find any bees cross polinating since�the last flowering in August. My chilli padi plant not churning out�any chilli padi since the haze get worst from Sept.... �
3,000 stranded in Langkawi due to hazeIan Yee and Vivienne WongFriday, Oct 23, 2015�Shades of grey: The sea view outside Kuah Jetty almost completely covered by haze.Photo: The Star/ANN�LANGKAWI - Close to 3,000 people, mostly tourists, were stranded here as the haze grounded almost all flights to and from Langkawi International Airport for the past two days.�Yesterday morning, passengers of certain airlines were told the next available flights would be late this afternoon, and even then, there was no guarantee that they wouldn't be cancelled.�"We cannot give any estimates because we can't predict the haze.�"We can only wait until visibility levels are safe, inform the airlines, and let them decide whether it's safe to fly," said airport manager Jefry Ramli.�Sandra Chu and Jimmy Cheung, both 49, from Hong Kong, spent two days waiting for replacement flights at the airport, and their rescheduled flight to Kuala Lumpur yesterday was also cancelled.�They spent over HK$10,000 (S$1,800) on their trip to Pulau Langkawi, and have now been forced to forego most of the hotel stays and tour packages they've paid for in KL.�"It's a total loss," said Cheung of the KL leg of his holiday. "I never experienced anything like this. I don't think I'll ever come back here."�Frenchman Aoune Sane, 33, and his friends had to cancel their flights to KL and Phuket, worth a total of �300 (S$500), due to the delays.�They finally decided to travel to Phuket by sea - a five-hour journey - in order to catch their flight back to Paris from Thailand.�Others desperate to get to the mainland had to take the ferry from Kuah Jetty to Kuala Perlis or Penang, and book land transport from there.�Airport and airline staff were doing their best to cope with the chaos caused by the haze.�"Only a few have shouted at us, but that's to be expected," said AirAsia guest service assistant Mohd Azhar Saidan, who was in good spirits despite working 12-hour shifts for the past three days.�Jefry said the airport was also doing its best to help passengers.��
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Sentosa got casino which was enclosed & air-con ...
This haze created so much problems in the region!
South is 202. pm2.5.
the rest is like 198, 199....central 180+
Hope Indo becomes the public enemy of SEA.
how to drive? a big lorry passed at 0.35 and the passengers ...
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Hope Indo becomes the public enemy of SEA.
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Not just SEA. �It will become the bloody pariah state and global enemy for being such a polluter. �The amount of carbon dioxide and other gases released will just accelerate climate change and cause even more problems for the whole world down the road.
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can ... here is the dress code
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Maria Sharapova need to rant loud with every ball she hit.
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With this mask, how she going to rant out loud ....
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Not just SEA. �It will become the bloody pariah state and global enemy for being such a polluter. �The amount of carbon dioxide and other gases released will just accelerate climate change and cause even more problems for the whole world down the road.
I just don't understand why indo can continue to pollute the air and create so many problems to other countries, and yet so many years they still not able to solve this haze problem and get away with it.
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I just don't understand why indo can continue to pollute the air and create so many problems to other countries, and yet so many years they still not able to solve this haze problem and get away with it.
How do one deal with a country whose Govt bochap & tendency towards weird logic? Their country is big in size & they heck care about the impact on other smaller countries near it. To them, smaller countries either have to bear with this haze or jolly well pitch in to help.
Sentosa got casino which was enclosed & air-con ...
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I just don't understand why indo can continue to pollute the air and create so many problems to other countries, and yet so many years they still not able to solve this haze problem and get away with it.
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How do one deal with a country whose Govt bochap & tendency towards weird logic? Their country is big in size & they heck care about the impact on other smaller countries near it. To them, smaller countries either have to bear with this haze or jolly well pitch in to help.
Even other countries have pitch in to help also still not much use to the haze situation?!
http://blog.cifor.or...haze-is-made-of
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EVERY BREATH YOU TAKEAs part of the workshop, the team measured the levels of gas and smoke particles in the air�including those that can get into the human respiratory system when inhaled�to understand the severity of the impacts on human health.
�There is a complete envelopment of smoke all over the place,� said Martin Wooster, Professor of Earth Observation Science at King�s College London.
�And if you�re here without a mask, you are breathing much of that smoke into your lungs, which is obviously, I would say, extremely hazardous for your health.�
The names of just some of the noxious components of the smoke are enough to show why: ozone, carbon monoxide, cyanide, ammonia and formaldehyde.
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Even other countries have pitch in to help also still not much use to the haze situation?!
It doesn't bother the Indonesian Govt about it's people's health or death; since there are so many of them, there'll always be plenty to replace......must be due to the regular inhalation of toxic chemicals affecting the brain cells of people who govern the country.
Anyway, their resoning : it's their land that is burning, not ours. If we can't tahan, we have to come up with money & expertise to quell the burning ourselve; with their permission. At the moment, it's burning out of control due to their lackadaisical & condescending attitude.
Even other countries have pitch in to help also still not much use to the haze situation?!
They wait untill the burn job is 80 to 90% done,then accept help when its too late. If they accepted when offer was 1st made...it wont b this fiery mess we see.
Even other countries have pitch in to help also still not much use to the haze situation?!
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Is too late already.
By the time they request for help, the fire had gone out of control. Million of hectares of land already on fires, how to put out.
Now I think the only solution is to hope the rain to come and the change of wind direction to blow away from Singapore.
Edited by Tohto, 23 October 2015 - 05:05 PM.
When can we be freed from haze....sign....![[bigcry]](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/blogger_img_proxy/AEn0k_v_WsgG-dT5lfuhcea75wLemt1EXXijTkLGKiVbzZNiC1oTOykspRr3JpYsljUkM27MMe_kcWa7tkRhyTbD6t6hcDxGdRxwi8hUNx0IAxRfdzTwOHw_C-DTYNJy3IVD_CAB-RtLVGw=s0-d)
My wife is now in Xiamen for holiday and when I told her today haze very bad again. She send me this photo.
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Edited by Tohto, 23 October 2015 - 05:04 PM.
Today haze is very bad, the smell is back too
When can we be freed from haze....sign....Plan to go out after work, seems like i have to go straight home later.
Is too late already.
By the time they request for help, the fire had gone of control. Million of hectares of land already on fires, how to put.
Now I think the only solution is to hope the rain to come and the change of wind direction to blow away from Singapore.
Edited by Invigorated, 23 October 2015 - 05:08 PM.
Plan to go out after work, seems like i have to go straight home later.
More than 200 le......it's bad
I guess maybe we don't see what they $�� and what h�lp they n��d. They don't need envelopes of water pouring down on the furnace, they just need '�n��lop�$'.
Hehehe.....just to let you know i can read your post :)
More than 200 le......it's bad
�More than 200!? Sian, have to cancel my plan again due to the haze! Cant do anything in the evening but to stay home.
More than 200!? Sian, have to cancel my plan again due to the haze! Cant do anything in the evening but to stay home.
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My wife is now in Xiamen for holiday and when I told her today haze very bad again. She send me this photo.
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Wow... is this 12 or 14mm fisheye lense...?
can still go shopping, have dinner, watch movie mah, all inside the mall�
But still need to expose to�outdoor when move to the mall ma, wait later the haze get even worst?! Lol.
Wow... is this 12 or 14mm fisheye lense...?
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Heng ah you close the gate some weeks ago.
If not, how the brothers go back?
Then they stay up give trouble .....
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Heng ah you close the gate some weeks ago.
If not, how the brothers go back?
Then they stay up give trouble .....
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you chk under your bed tonight, still hv 1/2 looking after u...ahhha
Harbourfront <-> Batam Centre ferry service�just got suspended due to haze.
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Wow... is this 12 or 14mm fisheye lense...?
I think is just some apps from her iPhone.
today, east side is more jialat than west....
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Time 1pm 2pm 3pm 4pm 5pm 6pm
North 131 152 160 162 156 183
South 152 164 160 153 189 218
East 145 159 150 160 181 200
West 147 150 173 181 144 146
Central 121 141 132 115 137 175
My wife is now in Xiamen for holiday and when I told her today haze very bad again. She send me this photo.
Your wifey very nice to you, so loving,
So...did u go out party?
Harbourfront <-> Batam Centre ferry service just got suspended due to haze.
Other services to Batam and Bintan still running for now.
Wah Lao. So bad.
Our Changi Airport better able to handle the flights with high tech equipment.
today, east side is more jialat than west....
Time 1pm 2pm 3pm 4pm 5pm 6pm
North 131 152 160 162 156 183
South 152 164 160 153 189 218
East 145 159 150 160 181 200
West 147 150 173 181 144 146
Central 121 141 132 115 137 175
Smoke from Kalimantan..
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"...here we go again...same old shxt again...."
Sad....why always coincide on weekend de....
"...here we go again...same old shxt again...."
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Stay indoors tonight... haze too bad to go out...
Had simple home cooked food... while basking in aircon and air purifier...
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nah entertainment, in stead of song, replace with shxt...hjahhaha
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Sad....why always coincide on weekend de....
Going to spoilt my plan for the weekend again! Last sun already spoilt my plan liao!
They wait untill the burn job is 80 to 90% done,then accept help when its too late. If they accepted when offer was 1st made...it wont b this fiery mess we see.
Must wait until 80%-90%...otherwise cannot collect money from the plantation owner. Then later ask the red dot for brown envelope.
Air is bad! Central 268. Bad neighbors.
Seems like 400+ manLooks pretty scary, no one on the streets at all
some night spots will close shop if this prolong...
some night spots will close shop if this prolong...
Eh u go geylang is indoor wat
Everybody already home.
Only you alone on the road....
No lah pic taken before 10pm.
I also dunno why the road so empty lol
haze very very bad.but the rain brought the temperature down, more cooling now.
No rain at Seng Kang, punggol area....
http://www.channelne..._medium=twitter
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Our RSAF/SCDF men fighting fires in Indonesia are coming back......
never doubted their courage and effort but I am abit taken aback by this photo..
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Look like tomorrow will be another hazy. Weekend gone again all thanks to our neighbor.
So sad
Look like tomorrow will be another hazy. Weekend gone again all thanks to our neighbor.
Can share the site or link please?
Look like tomorrow will be another hazy. Weekend gone again all thanks to our neighbor.
Super sian weekend always gone due to the unforeseen haze! Today just went out to run some errand due to no choice, but quickly went straight home after finished. No mood to go anywhere due to the hazy weather.�
Super sian weekend always gone due to the unforeseen haze! Today just went out to run some errand due to no choice, but quickly went straight home after finished. No mood to go anywhere due to the hazy weather.
Ya lor.....2day neber go out.....think will go out tmr....y r we trapped in our own homes...silly indon...hate the haze
Ya lor.....2day neber go out.....think will go out tmr....y r we trapped in our own homes...silly indon...hate the haze
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I think this guy watch toooo many ??? re-runs on televisions, like that he�must as well summon the eastern sea dragon god to make rain better
Ya lor.....2day neber go out.....think will go out tmr....y r we trapped in our own homes...silly indon...hate the haze
Next year sg51, suddenly has 1000 new born.... We know why.
good lor.
Next year sg51, suddenly has 1000 new born.... We know why.
Orr......u like the haze hor........that means got double happiness in mcf....hehehe.....porker boy is getting married & u r contributing to sg51 babies......we can buy some nice champange to celebrate![[:p]](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/blogger_img_proxy/AEn0k_s638g6i0bkdS8NOcqGgnopS0L2FOrdeM-oik1PB2VvrLbLUzBVlWZJy5cAfS32lAKRw6p324Z4rILAI7e5QKTg_nKEy0wlIBsJhowgAmXoiJkHmOWNKYNlianJJ82yZf9g0ywgx5k=s0-d)
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I think this guy watch toooo many ??? re-runs on televisions, like that he must as well summon the eastern sea dragon god to make rain better
Edited by Atonchia, 25 October 2015 - 12:38 AM.
Afternoon can go out and play after rain stops
Happy mood
Yay! Super heavy rain now, hope the rain will clear up the haze a little
Afternoon can go out and play after rain stops
Happy moodBishan rained for like 20min only. Now the haze looks worse here.
Bishan rained for like 20min only. Now the haze looks worse here.
Ya lor, looks the same after the rain, still hazy......
http://www.channelne..._medium=twitter
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Our RSAF/SCDF men fighting fires in Indonesia are coming back......
never doubted their courage and effort but I am abit taken aback by this photo..
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SCDF team come back but the haze and fire still burning how???
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Does this means the international team all come back after 2 weeks stint regardless of manage to put out the fires in hotspot or not.
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Yes, they have manage to put out some hotspot but the hotspot is still there and not subsides means haze will persist....
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Only rain at the hotspot area will helps now...
Yay! Super heavy rain now, hope the rain will clear up the haze a little
Afternoon can go out and play after rain stops
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What rain?
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It has been hot and sunny all morning here in the north.
SCDF team come back but the haze and fire still burning how???
Does this means the international team all come back after 2 weeks stint regardless of manage to put out the fires in hotspot or not.
Yes, they have manage to put out some hotspot but the hotspot is still there and not subsides means haze will persist....
Only rain at the hotspot area will helps now...
For the Indonesia people suffering, they will have to wait for the rain.
Edited by Tohto, 25 October 2015 - 11:02 AM.
Makes for very nice romantic shots haaaa
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Wahhhhhhhhhh.....................
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so early go and look for a good plot of burial ground ....
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Still hazy day today! I don't even dare to put out my laundry to dry! Will rot at home today, no mood to go anywhere.
I'm surprised ppl stop doing anything or go out becoz of haze.
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I still go out and do whatever needs to be done except for outdoor exercise. But the heat is what gets to me not the haze.� Sweating like crazy. End of the year is supposedly cooling with lots of rain. The El Nino makes the haze situation worse.
Wahhhhhhhhhh.....................
so early go and look for a good plot of burial ground ....
Lol... Land scarce ma
hello joko ... please give me back my blue sky ... photo taken at 1.15pm
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What rain?
It has been hot and sunny all morning here in the north.
East side raining heavily earlier, not very long though
Makes for very nice romantic shots haaaa
Where u go play huh, nice shots in my fav color, hehehe...
I'm surprised ppl stop doing anything or go out becoz of haze.
I still go out and do whatever needs to be done except for outdoor exercise. But the heat is what gets to me not the haze. Sweating like crazy. End of the year is supposedly cooling with lots of rain. The El Nino makes the haze situation worse.
psi around high 100, I hang out my bed sheet laundry, dry within 3 hours. just now went out to tabao lunch, now out for a haircut and later going for a movie...
what haze?
psi around high 100, I hang out my bed sheet laundry, dry within 3 hours. just now went out to tabao lunch, now out for a haircut and later going for a movie...
what haze?�
Yalor. I'm sure ppl won't let poor air quality and Indonesia's poor governance stop them from enjoying their weekend.
it should be...
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Yalor. I'm sure ppl won't let poor air quality and Indonesia's poor governance stop them from enjoying their weekend.
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Maybe only those with small children stay at home during these time... no mood to even mop the floor... hiaz
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Maybe only those with small children stay at home during these time... no mood to even mop the floor... hiaz
hazy air make the floor and fan very dusty, must mop and wash more often.
haze very very bad.I cant accept the annual haze season as a norm! Cause haze create a long-term health issue and affect outdoor activities. Life can never be the same during the haze period.
hello joko ... please give me back my blue sky ... photo taken at 1.15pm
Comprain some more, put 1 nuclear power station at Riau, then tell you they no money to spend on the maintenance....
yup ... then in ASEAN meeting ... demand for $100M per year for maintenance sponsorship ... huat ah!
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Comprain some more, put 1 nuclear power station at Riau, then tell you they no money to spend on the maintenance....
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Life goes on.
Just that don't let my kid play outdoors once PSI above 100 which is pretty much most days now.
Once past 150, it's airpurifiers on for the house instead of just the rooms when sleeping.
But it does suck, cos i'm trying to lose weight. So can't go for my jogs.
I think we have slowly got use to the haze, I still leave the window open as long as it is below 200 and no smell.
I think we have slowly got use to the haze, I still leave the window open as long as it is below 200 and no smell.
Me too. I just open small gap and on air purifier
I think we have slowly got use to the haze, I still leave the window open as long as it is below 200 and no smell.
If haze no smell still not so bad.
If haze no smell still not so bad.
No haze smell because our sense of smell already get used to it...
later indon will say psi 150-200 is normal ... wont die one ... so LLPL?
No haze smell because our sense of smell already get used to it...
I think we have slowly got use to the haze, I still leave the window open as long as it is below 200 and no smell.
Old man senile alreadySo what's next?
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Published on Oct 26, 2015Jakarta hit as haze crosses Java Sea�JAKARTA
JAKARTA residents were told by the government yesterday to be prepared for haze coming from the forest fires in Sumatra and Kalimantan, while Singapore urged Asean members to take decisive action to end the air pollution which has been troubling the region.
"I have instructed hospitals to stand by (for haze-related cases)," the Tempo online newspaper quoted Denny Wahyu Haryanto, head of the Jakarta Disaster Mitigation Agency, as saying yesterday.
"Smoke has covered the sky of Jakarta since Friday," said Sutopo Purwo Nugroho, spokesman of the National Disaster Management, reported the Detik online news portal.
Mr Sutopo added that the provinces of Banten, West Java, East Java, Bali and Nusa Tenggara would also be wholly or partly shrouded in haze.
Earlier on Saturday, Mr Sutopo has warned that a thin haze was spreading across the Java Sea to Jakarta due to wind conditions.
As of last evening, visibility in Jakarta has slightly declined, although the capital's air quality remained "healthy", reported Detik.
Meanwhile, Central Kalimantan province, where the Pollutant Standard Index (PSI) rose to more than 2,400 over the weekend, is urgently seeking oxygen cylinders from the central government to be distributed to haze-choked residents, reported Tempo.
Residents are also being evacuated from Palangkaraya, the provincial capital. The air pollution there peaked at 1,682 yesterday, dropping to 518 at 5pm. In Indonesia, any index reading above 350 is considered hazardous.
Indonesia has confirmed that 10 people had died from haze-related causes - some were firefighters killed directly by the blazes while others had succumbed to respiratory illnesses or medical conditions exacerbated by the pollution.
The haze over southern and central islands of Philippines also thickened yesterday, causing six flights to be cancelled and hospitals put on alert.
Pilots flying in the central city of Cebu could see only 8km ahead, said government weather observer John Agbay, adding visibility was also reduced on the western island of Palawan, Agence France-Presse (AFP) reported.
The haze has affected Thailand too, besides Singapore, Malaysia and the Philippines.
Singapore yesterday urged fellow Asean members to take "firm and decisive action" against the haze, ahead of the Nov 19 Asean summit to be held in Kuala Lumpur.
"Singapore will work closely with other Asean countries to fully operationalise the Asean Haze Monitoring System, and other cooperative initiatives," the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) said in a statement.
This came a day after Singapore troops and firefighters returned from Sumatra where they joined an international effort in combating forest fires.
The agenda of the 10-nation summit has not been made public, but diplomatic sources say the haze is likely to be raised by member countries affected by the pollution, AFP reported.
The MFA said Singapore will pursue legal action against "errant companies responsible for the haze" and called on Indonesia to respond to "our repeated requests to share information" on the firms.
Paper and palm oil firms have been blamed for deliberately setting off fires to clear land for cultivation.
The haze and reduced visibility are expected to persist in Singapore today, and the conditions might deteriorate if denser haze is blown in from Kalimantan, the National Environment Agency said in an update at 6pm yesterday.
The air quality for the next 24 hours is expected to be in the mid to high sections of the unhealthy range.
The number of hot spots detected in Sumatra and Kalimantan yesterday was three and 212 respectively.
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blow blow blow, let the Kalla smell his own sh#
Haze pretty bad this morning, and i see the weather also sian when going to work. Looks like even sg went over to indo to help also no use at all. In the end waste time waste money and energy.
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So what's next?
A lot of outdoor businesses are bleeding now, from bicycle rental at ecp to non aircon hawker centre.
They are probably asking this qns every other day.
I think we have slowly got use to the haze, I still leave the window open as long as it is below 200 and no smell.
Jman888. Not targeted at your hor.
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That's the thing I was worried about when this haze started.
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I told my wife a few months back, don't you ever get used to the haze and get lackadaisical about the need to use the mask, esp with the kids.
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When I am back on weekends, when I go out to tabao makan, I am like one of those few siao lang ("end of the world is coming, repent" types) still wearing a mask. My wife tells me CBD area now, 90% bo chup liao.
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I also told her that the kids don mask once they step out regardless of the readings until they put out the fire for good.
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Reason? While the 5 locations where readings are taken is a good step forward compared to other countries (Ho Chi Minh has jacksh1t for readings), I feel we can't rely on it for pinpoint accuracy (not a criticism of the equipment) as we do not live next to the apparatus taking measurements, even if we did, there is the wind factor that makes it very variable.
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Supposing if we somehow eliminated all the variables above, there is the issue of making current decisions based on date about an hour old as measurements are taken hourly and only posted 15mins past the hour.
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The only conclusions I can draw from the readings is:
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1. The haze is all around us
2. It was quite bad an hour ago
3. Something that eludes people most of the time, you can't see PM2.5 particles in small concentration in the air but by the time, you can, it's probably very unhealthy or hazardous levels and there's a huge range from Ricola Fresh Swiss Mountain air to Hazadous (eg: Moderate or Unhealthy for Sensitive Groups to Unhealthy for every mothers' sons and daughters)
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I am not kiasee.
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Just kia bo kau lui for medical or die pain pain over a long long time (when I am in pain, 12 minutes is also long time).
Haze pretty bad this morning, and i see the weather also sian when going to work. Looks like even sg went over to indo to help also no use at all. In the end waste time waste money and energy.
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You expect that small contingent to put out the fires? The Indons are not that incompetent lah.
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They probably delivered what was expected of them but it won't move the needle much.
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your wish is granted.....
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Published on Oct 26, 2015Jakarta hit as haze crosses Java Sea�JAKARTA
JAKARTA residents were told by the government yesterday to be prepared for haze coming from the forest fires in Sumatra and Kalimantan, while Singapore urged Asean members to take decisive action to end the air pollution which has been troubling the region.
"I have instructed hospitals to stand by (for haze-related cases)," the Tempo online newspaper quoted Denny Wahyu Haryanto, head of the Jakarta Disaster Mitigation Agency, as saying yesterday.
"Smoke has covered the sky of Jakarta since Friday," said Sutopo Purwo Nugroho, spokesman of the National Disaster Management, reported the Detik online news portal.
Mr Sutopo added that the provinces of Banten, West Java, East Java, Bali and Nusa Tenggara would also be wholly or partly shrouded in haze.
Earlier on Saturday, Mr Sutopo has warned that a thin haze was spreading across the Java Sea to Jakarta due to wind conditions.
As of last evening, visibility in Jakarta has slightly declined, although the capital's air quality remained "healthy", reported Detik.
Meanwhile, Central Kalimantan province, where the Pollutant Standard Index (PSI) rose to more than 2,400 over the weekend, is urgently seeking oxygen cylinders from the central government to be distributed to haze-choked residents, reported Tempo.
Residents are also being evacuated from Palangkaraya, the provincial capital. The air pollution there peaked at 1,682 yesterday, dropping to 518 at 5pm. In Indonesia, any index reading above 350 is considered hazardous.
Indonesia has confirmed that 10 people had died from haze-related causes - some were firefighters killed directly by the blazes while others had succumbed to respiratory illnesses or medical conditions exacerbated by the pollution.
The haze over southern and central islands of Philippines also thickened yesterday, causing six flights to be cancelled and hospitals put on alert.
Pilots flying in the central city of Cebu could see only 8km ahead, said government weather observer John Agbay, adding visibility was also reduced on the western island of Palawan, Agence France-Presse (AFP) reported.
The haze has affected Thailand too, besides Singapore, Malaysia and the Philippines.
Singapore yesterday urged fellow Asean members to take "firm and decisive action" against the haze, ahead of the Nov 19 Asean summit to be held in Kuala Lumpur.
"Singapore will work closely with other Asean countries to fully operationalise the Asean Haze Monitoring System, and other cooperative initiatives," the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) said in a statement.
This came a day after Singapore troops and firefighters returned from Sumatra where they joined an international effort in combating forest fires.
The agenda of the 10-nation summit has not been made public, but diplomatic sources say the haze is likely to be raised by member countries affected by the pollution, AFP reported.
The MFA said Singapore will pursue legal action against "errant companies responsible for the haze" and called on Indonesia to respond to "our repeated requests to share information" on the firms.
Paper and palm oil firms have been blamed for deliberately setting off fires to clear land for cultivation.
The haze and reduced visibility are expected to persist in Singapore today, and the conditions might deteriorate if denser haze is blown in from Kalimantan, the National Environment Agency said in an update at 6pm yesterday.
The air quality for the next 24 hours is expected to be in the mid to high sections of the unhealthy range.
The number of hot spots detected in Sumatra and Kalimantan yesterday was three and 212 respectively.
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siang hoh 999999 psi
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no worries lah, i bet many have the same feeling that after a while you get tire and let your guard down.
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closing all the window and the whole house become humid and stuffy, not to mention it is so warm when no rain for days. �on the street you see less and less people wearing mask as long as the smell is not heavy despite the blurry sign tells you that the psi is quite bad.
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your wish is granted.....
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Published on Oct 26, 2015Jakarta hit as haze crosses Java Sea�JAKARTA
JAKARTA residents were told by the government yesterday to be prepared for haze coming from the forest fires in Sumatra and Kalimantan, while Singapore urged Asean members to take decisive action to end the air pollution which has been troubling the region.
"I have instructed hospitals to stand by (for haze-related cases)," the Tempo online newspaper quoted Denny Wahyu Haryanto, head of the Jakarta Disaster Mitigation Agency, as saying yesterday.
"Smoke has covered the sky of Jakarta since Friday," said Sutopo Purwo Nugroho, spokesman of the National Disaster Management, reported the Detik online news portal.
Mr Sutopo added that the provinces of Banten, West Java, East Java, Bali and Nusa Tenggara would also be wholly or partly shrouded in haze.
Earlier on Saturday, Mr Sutopo has warned that a thin haze was spreading across the Java Sea to Jakarta due to wind conditions.
As of last evening, visibility in Jakarta has slightly declined, although the capital's air quality remained "healthy", reported Detik.
Meanwhile, Central Kalimantan province, where the Pollutant Standard Index (PSI) rose to more than 2,400 over the weekend, is urgently seeking oxygen cylinders from the central government to be distributed to haze-choked residents, reported Tempo.
Residents are also being evacuated from Palangkaraya, the provincial capital. The air pollution there peaked at 1,682 yesterday, dropping to 518 at 5pm. In Indonesia, any index reading above 350 is considered hazardous.
Indonesia has confirmed that 10 people had died from haze-related causes - some were firefighters killed directly by the blazes while others had succumbed to respiratory illnesses or medical conditions exacerbated by the pollution.
The haze over southern and central islands of Philippines also thickened yesterday, causing six flights to be cancelled and hospitals put on alert.
Pilots flying in the central city of Cebu could see only 8km ahead, said government weather observer John Agbay, adding visibility was also reduced on the western island of Palawan, Agence France-Presse (AFP) reported.
The haze has affected Thailand too, besides Singapore, Malaysia and the Philippines.
Singapore yesterday urged fellow Asean members to take "firm and decisive action" against the haze, ahead of the Nov 19 Asean summit to be held in Kuala Lumpur.
"Singapore will work closely with other Asean countries to fully operationalise the Asean Haze Monitoring System, and other cooperative initiatives," the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) said in a statement.
This came a day after Singapore troops and firefighters returned from Sumatra where they joined an international effort in combating forest fires.
The agenda of the 10-nation summit has not been made public, but diplomatic sources say the haze is likely to be raised by member countries affected by the pollution, AFP reported.
The MFA said Singapore will pursue legal action against "errant companies responsible for the haze" and called on Indonesia to respond to "our repeated requests to share information" on the firms.
Paper and palm oil firms have been blamed for deliberately setting off fires to clear land for cultivation.
The haze and reduced visibility are expected to persist in Singapore today, and the conditions might deteriorate if denser haze is blown in from Kalimantan, the National Environment Agency said in an update at 6pm yesterday.
The air quality for the next 24 hours is expected to be in the mid to high sections of the unhealthy range.
The number of hot spots detected in Sumatra and Kalimantan yesterday was three and 212 respectively.
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Best is let the PSI there go up to 2000 for 3 weeks and see what they action want to take !!
Jman888. Not targeted at your hor.
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That's the thing I was worried about when this haze started.
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I told my wife a few months back, don't you ever get used to the haze and get lackadaisical about the need to use the mask, esp with the kids.
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When I am back on weekends, when I go out to tabao makan, I am like one of those few siao lang ("end of the world is coming, repent" types) still wearing a mask. My wife tells me CBD area now, 90% bo chup liao.
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I also told her that the kids don mask once they step out regardless of the readings until they put out the fire for good.
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Reason? While the 5 locations where readings are taken is a good step forward compared to other countries (Ho Chi Minh has jacksh1t for readings), I feel we can't rely on it for pinpoint accuracy (not a criticism of the equipment) as we do not live next to the apparatus taking measurements, even if we did, there is the wind factor that makes it very variable.
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Supposing if we somehow eliminated all the variables above, there is the issue of making current decisions based on date about an hour old as measurements are taken hourly and only posted 15mins past the hour.
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The only conclusions I can draw from the readings is:
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1. The haze is all around us
2. It was quite bad an hour ago
3. Something that eludes people most of the time, you can't see PM2.5 particles in small concentration in the air but by the time, you can, it's probably very unhealthy or hazardous levels and there's a huge range from Ricola Fresh Swiss Mountain air to Hazadous (eg: Moderate or Unhealthy for Sensitive Groups to Unhealthy for every mothers' sons and daughters)
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I am not kiasee.
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Just kia bo kau lui for medical or die pain pain over a long long time (when I am in pain, 12 minutes is also long time).
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You expect that small contingent to put out the fires? The Indons are not that incompetent lah.
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They probably delivered what was expected of them but it won't move the needle much.
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I totally agree. Everyone is getting used to it. Much lesser people are wearing the N95 now.
I don't wear masks when i go outside generally, even for my children. I just make them stay indoors as much as possible. No outdoor plays. No unnecessary trips for them outside even for going to the neighbourhood shops.
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The way i do things is sustainable for myself. I even bought a 3rd AP for my living room so that i wouldn't have to keep moving the room ones out into the living room when the PSI is above 150 (daytime) cos i know sure get lazy to do it one.
precisely, talk nia ... no action ... still thinking why APP was singled out and others were let off
i don't beleive it's only APP palm oil plantation use slash and burn method in indon ...
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george yeo is a wilmar director... is he even in sg now? knn...
Getting used to the haze is good cause it means you would not get freak out during the hazy period. But not wearing any mask, i am a bit worried on this cause you don't know how poisonous the haze will have effect on our health in long-term run.
no worries lah, i bet many have the same feeling that after a while you get tire and let your guard down.
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closing all the window and the whole house become humid and stuffy, not to mention it is so warm when no rain for days. �on the street you see less and less people wearing mask as long as the smell is not heavy despite the blurry sign tells you that the psi is quite bad.
I put hepa filter in my air con. Not sure if it work. But feel better.�
it's like eat dirty food to train your stomach not to lausai when eat street food? lol
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Getting used to the haze is good cause it means you would not get freak out during the hazy period.
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Edited by Wt_know, 26 October 2015 - 01:10 PM.
Getting used to the haze is good cause it means you would not get freak out during the hazy period. But not wearing any mask, i am a bit worried on this cause you don't know how poisonous the haze will have effect on our health in long-term run.
To date no longitudinal study but I think downstream there would definitely be long term effects
Following evolution, there will definitely be some that will adapt and mutate to suit this new environment, though many more will die along the way.
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I'm not ready to be part of the latter. So still mask on when out, bunker down with air purifier when in.
Yesterday I was exposed to psi of >2000! I went to public toilet at the neighbour hood hawker without wearing mask and the guy beside me is smoking...
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I havent picked up the habit of wearing mask during bad haze outdoor and I think it's bad
Whole day outside can see a layer of white haze, and yet there is no burning smell. Still thinking it is our nose really immune to the haze smell or due to other reasons?
Whole day outside can see a layer of white haze, and yet there is no burning smell. Still thinking it is our nose really immune to the haze smell or due to other reasons?
Same same mah when you pang sai in the toilet. After a few minutes, no smell liao, it's all goodgood.
Whole day outside can see a layer of white haze, and yet there is no burning smell. Still thinking it is our nose really immune to the haze smell or due to other reasons?
I still can smell of the haze leh. Esp during lunch time and after work as inwalk out of office building. I think my office building ac too powerful, once outside, can smell the difference.
Hopefully the haze would not continue for the rest of the week.
hello joko ... please give me back my blue sky ... photo taken at 1.15pm
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Hopefully the haze would not continue for the rest of the week.
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A bit difficult... haze still on today ....
Its gonna be a white christmas.....not haze I hope
sibei fking hazy ... entire sky is covered by haze ...
ooi joker "delay no more" (cantonese style) in solving haze problem !!!
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Edited by Wt_know, 27 October 2015 - 08:12 AM.
These indons bluff people de, say haze only affect us for a month
feel that we are like sheeps, waiting to be slaughter
...............crapppyyyyyyyyyyy
this is just sadd....
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When the smoke from forest fires turned a thick, acrid yellow, casting an apocalyptic glow over Palangkaraya, Kartika Sari decided to grab her child and flee the Indonesian city at the epicentre of the haze crisis smothering Southeast Asia.
The 32-year-old pharmacist and her three-year-old daughter have for weeks been inhaling toxic air in Palangkaraya, a city of 240,000 that has been engulfed in poisonous darkness by smoke from peat land set alight to clear land for palm oil plantations.
"The smoke was no longer white, it was yellow," she told AFP from an evacuation centre in Banjarmasin, a six-hour drive from Palangkaraya.
"Usually we just endured it, even though we had headaches and felt nauseous. But it has got so bad lately, that I can't take it anymore. I can't even breathe fresh air."
Now she waits in limbo in a basic shelter with nine other evacuees, mostly children, including a one-year-old boy suffering from a severe cough and diarrhoea.
Authorities say the fires from slash-and-burn farming in Borneo and neighbouring Sumatra have killed 10 people so far, some of whom died while fighting the blazes and others from the pollution.
Respiratory illnesses in Palangkaraya have soared as the choking smog has worsened in recent weeks.
-- "No escape" --
While many have relocated to safety elsewhere with friends and relatives, others have no choice but to stay behind despite the risks posed by the noxious haze.
39-year-old Rahmah, a street vendor in Palangkaraya, said she needed to keep doing her job to pay her children's school fees, despite the toll on her health from working outdoors.
"I have to stay whether I like it or not. My livelihood is here so how can I leave?" Rahmah, who like many Indonesians goes by one name, told AFP on the porch of her riverfront wooden house in Palangkaraya.
"You get light headed after a while, but I just try my best to cure myself with simple medication."
Her neighbour Nurjanah, who shares a small house with seven other family members, including her five-month-old granddaughter, echoed the sense of desperation felt in the blighted city, where visibility is sometimes as low as a few dozen metres (yards).
"Leave? Where to?" Nurjanah said, when asked why she doesn't evacuate.
"The smoke gets everywhere, so what's the point of evacuating when there's no escape?"
-- "Can't go on like this" --
At a nearby health clinic, hundreds of people queue for hours for a chance to use one of the 10 oxygen tanks available to get a breath of fresh air.
Even there the haze finds its way in, swarming around 23-year-old English teacher Ayu Dwitasari, who has suffered from bronchitis for days and is having trouble breathing.
"It's got especially bad today, that is why I came here," Dwitasari told AFP.
Mass evacuations -- especially of children and those suffering chronic respiratory illnesses -- were not out of the question, said Indonesian military spokesman Tatang Sulaiman.
Three warships carrying medical teams, tents, cooking stoves and protective masks were on their way to the worst-affected regions in Kalimantan -- Indonesia's half of Borneo -- and Sumatra, he said, to help build temporary shelters away from the haze-plagued cities.
"Our warships are ready to evacuate residents, whether to these temporary shelters, or even to take them on board. We are prepared for that," he told AFP.
But for those fighting the fires, a lack of equipment and tinder-dry conditions are hampering their best efforts to curb the thousands of blazes smouldering on carbon-rich peat lands.
In Kuala Kapuas, not far from Palangkaraya, 33-year-old volunteer Rahmat Muhamad Noor and around 20 others toil around the clock fighting the fires, struggling with limited water and poor equipment.
Wearing thin rubber boots and a cotton face mask, Noor tried desperately to stamp out a fire with a wooden stick after the machine pumping water through the hose broke down.
"Please tell the government we need more help," he told AFP. "We need masks. We can't go on like this."
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People are treated at a local hospital with fresh oxygen in Palangkaraya, the city��
When the smoke from forest fires turned a thick, acrid yellow, casting an apocalyptic glow over Palangkaraya, Kartika Sari decided to grab her child and flee the Indonesian city at the epicentre of the haze crisis smothering Southeast Asia.
The 32-year-old pharmacist and her three-year-old daughter have for weeks been inhaling toxic air in Palangkaraya, a city of 240,000 that has been engulfed in poisonous darkness by smoke from peat land set alight to clear land for palm oil plantations.
"The smoke was no longer white, it was yellow," she told AFP from an evacuation centre in Banjarmasin, a six-hour drive from Palangkaraya.
"Usually we just endured it, even though we had headaches and felt nauseous. But it has got so bad lately, that I can't take it anymore. I can't even breathe fresh air."
Now she waits in limbo in a basic shelter with nine other evacuees, mostly children, including a one-year-old boy suffering from a severe cough and diarrhoea.
Authorities say the fires from slash-and-burn farming in Borneo and neighbouring Sumatra have killed 10 people so far, some of whom died while fighting the blazes and others from the pollution.
Respiratory illnesses in Palangkaraya have soared as the choking smog has worsened in recent weeks.
-- "No escape" --
While many have relocated to safety elsewhere with friends and relatives, others have no choice but to stay behind despite the risks posed by the noxious haze.
39-year-old Rahmah, a street vendor in Palangkaraya, said she needed to keep doing her job to pay her children's school fees, despite the toll on her health from working outdoors.
"I have to stay whether I like it or not. My livelihood is here so how can I leave?" Rahmah, who like many Indonesians goes by one name, told AFP on the porch of her riverfront wooden house in Palangkaraya.
"You get light headed after a while, but I just try my best to cure myself with simple medication."
Her neighbour Nurjanah, who shares a small house with seven other family members, including her five-month-old granddaughter, echoed the sense of desperation felt in the blighted city, where visibility is sometimes as low as a few dozen metres (yards).
"Leave? Where to?" Nurjanah said, when asked why she doesn't evacuate.
"The smoke gets everywhere, so what's the point of evacuating when there's no escape?"
-- "Can't go on like this" --
At a nearby health clinic, hundreds of people queue for hours for a chance to use one of the 10 oxygen tanks available to get a breath of fresh air.
Even there the haze finds its way in, swarming around 23-year-old English teacher Ayu Dwitasari, who has suffered from bronchitis for days and is having trouble breathing.
"It's got especially bad today, that is why I came here," Dwitasari told AFP.
Mass evacuations -- especially of children and those suffering chronic respiratory illnesses -- were not out of the question, said Indonesian military spokesman Tatang Sulaiman.
Three warships carrying medical teams, tents, cooking stoves and protective masks were on their way to the worst-affected regions in Kalimantan -- Indonesia's half of Borneo -- and Sumatra, he said, to help build temporary shelters away from the haze-plagued cities.
"Our warships are ready to evacuate residents, whether to these temporary shelters, or even to take them on board. We are prepared for that," he told AFP.
But for those fighting the fires, a lack of equipment and tinder-dry conditions are hampering their best efforts to curb the thousands of blazes smouldering on carbon-rich peat lands.
In Kuala Kapuas, not far from Palangkaraya, 33-year-old volunteer Rahmat Muhamad Noor and around 20 others toil around the clock fighting the fires, struggling with limited water and poor equipment.
Wearing thin rubber boots and a cotton face mask, Noor tried desperately to stamp out a fire with a wooden stick after the machine pumping water through the hose broke down.
"Please tell the government we need more help," he told AFP. "We need masks. We can't go on like this."
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tiagong jarkata nice and cosy
maybe these chaps can go stay in jarkata for a while?
A bit difficult... haze still on today ....
Super sian, haze indeed still on today! Looks like the wind direction still not favour to us.
PSI 2900!!! ... � � Viral: Stunning, heartbreaking photo of man going fishing in toxic yellow 2,900 PSI haze in Central Kalimantan
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What amaze me is with this haze level, he still had a cigarette in his mouth...
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still got fish alive meh ? at this rate wont the rivers be toxic ?
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got emergency at home and their president go US holiday ...
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Haze start to blow into Jakarta, so he must faster get out of there. Washington air is fresh.
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just kidding, but honestly what can they do...?? their gahmen dun look out for their own ppl also...LL lor.�
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Those people staying at these ulu place are not important to them....
Their elite are in Jakarta...
You ran out of red fonts?
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I would love to see our clear blue sky soon .... and will definitely appreciate more of what Nature gives us ....
PSI 2900 the people there still can survive? Over here psi 200 we already want to die liao.
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These photos was taken using my hand phone on Marina bay during NDP preview.�
What happen if we already have the haze then, maybe all the fly pass will be cancel.
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Edited by Tohto, 27 October 2015 - 02:03 PM.
What amaze me is with this haze level, he still had a cigarette in his mouth...
If its kretek ciggy, understand that the smoke from the cloves have a little�numbing effect on the throat.
If its kretek ciggy, understand that the smoke from the cloves have a little�numbing effect on the throat.
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These photos was taken using my hand phone on Marina bay during NDP preview.
What happen if we already have the haze then, maybe all the fly pass will be cancel.
These photos was taken using my hand phone on Marina bay during NDP preview.
What happen if we already have the haze then, maybe all the fly pass will be cancel.
Nice pics! Really missing our blue blue sky
Now even if i could have the blue sky for a day, i will be very happy
It's become a luxury which cannot be brought
Nice pics! Really missing our blue blue sky
Now even if i could have the blue sky for a day, i will be very happy
It's become a luxury which cannot be brought�
Base on the current wind forecast I see on Windfinder website, the wind direction will change tomorrow night.
You can see the wind is forecast to blow in from South China Sea.
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Base on the current wind forecast I see on Windfinder website, the wind direction will change tomorrow night.
You can see the wind is forecast to blow in from South China Sea.
Yay! Does it mean the haze will temp. be gone tmr night?
Base on the current wind forecast I see on Windfinder website, the wind direction will change tomorrow night.
You can see the wind is forecast to blow in from South China Sea.
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oh hell yeah!!!!!!!!!
time to give those farkers hell!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh hell yeah!!!!!!!!!
time to give those farkers hell!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tank tank so fierce huh, hehehe
They need a taste of their own medicine
oh hell yeah!!!!!!!!!
time to give those farkers hell!!!!!!!!!!!!
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But it seems to blow into Sumatra, not Java island leh....
But it seems to blow into Sumatra, not Java island leh....
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Tank tank so fierce huh, hehehe
They need a taste of their own medicine�
give them some bad medicine
forecast next few days are good.
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forecast next few days are good.
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Looks like glider season is back!!!
Tohto is now mcf haze period weatherman
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But it seems to blow into Sumatra, not Java island leh....
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Kalimantan haze will get to java?
Tohto is now mcf haze period weatherman
The haze screw up all my running and weekend outdoor activities with family. And school holiday had start already.
The haze screw up all my running and weekend outdoor activities with family. And school holiday had start already.
This should be�the longest haze period that we have.
Finally some rain in the South. So many days w/o rain already.
Now rain or not also same, think we need correct wind direction is more important. Lol.
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Psi dropping towards under 100. Looks like the north east winds are blowing.
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Edited by Tohto, 27 October 2015 - 11:07 PM.
Look at PM2.5 at 8am. How long can it stay.
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Yes. Same same.
Have not go jogging for 1 week+ already. And the previous jog was so warm and humid.
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went last night cos i sensed the PSI was below 100 lol.
never see so many ppl sooo happy abt rain before....haaaaaaaaa
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Nice amount of rain is good :)
Just don't become ponding or flooding can liao
I can still smell haze in the air.
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Might confuse you with today smell ....
Raining for the past 3 hours Liao :)
Hopefully this can reduce the haze level here :)
Long time never have such a cooling morning :)The white layer of haze indeed reduce a lot, but early morning rain going to work quite troublesome lo.
Have you clear your yesterday 'pee sai' ?
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The white layer of haze indeed reduce a lot, but early morning rain going to work quite troublesome lo.
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Haze complain, rain get rid of haze a little, complain rain making driving or travelling troublesome...
Haze complain, rain get rid of haze a little, complain rain making driving or travelling troublesome...
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yah la these peepur...knn, give them 2000 psi thn they know...
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never again willi complain abt rain...or sun...reallly!
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i will remind my tennis kakis all these...kekeke
Haze complain, rain get rid of haze a little, complain rain making driving or travelling troublesome...
Lol, typical of people here to complain anything and everything here lo.
I rather it rains everyday with fresher air than to be struck with bad haze
Love the rain ;)
Troublesome a bit better than breathing in bad air la
I rather it rains everyday with fresher air than to be struck with bad haze
Love the rain ;)
Troublesome a bit better than breathing in bad air la
I rather it rains everyday with fresher air than to be struck with bad haze
Love the rain ;)Raining everyday is good�only after i have got to work.
Raining everyday is good�only after i have got to work.
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you typical sinkaporlang....ownself think ownself
you typical sinkaporlang....ownself think ownself
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just like you drivers never think of people using public transportation when it is raining?
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just like you drivers never think of people using public transportation when it is raining?
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eh limpeh take bus today hor....i reach opis then kababoom.....
just like you drivers never think of people using public transportation when it is raining?
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Cannot generalize. For me when raining I take public transport cuz sheltered all the way to office. If I drive need to walk to the car which is not sheltered, then at office, park already need to walk to office which is not sheltered. Lol.
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eh limpeh take bus today hor....i reach opis then kababoom.....
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Cannot generalize. For me when raining I take public transport cuz sheltered all the way to office. If I drive need to walk to the car which is not sheltered, then at office, park already need to walk to office which is not sheltered. Lol.
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miss those days of playing in rain and getting soaked...wohoooo
single digit psi....wohoooo
never see so many ppl sooo happy abt rain before....haaaaaaaaa
I know you not happy....
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Still cannot play tennis!
I think can keep all the air purifier liao
I know you not happy....
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just like you drivers never think of people using public transportation when it is raining?
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Actually raining is no good for drivers or buses, cause roads surely jams or accident. Taking�MRT not�much�different whether it is raining or not, still as sardine packed and slow on the train.
hahahh..yah lor....
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don't cry...ask porker to play pe nis with you
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nb...that bitch play everybody pe nis...so no diff....
Raining everyday is good�only after i have got to work.
i like it to rain on Sunday afternoon when I want to take a nap ....... i don't know why, though
But those people whom wash their cars on Sunday morning sure not happy .... all wasted if they park in open carpark or drive later kenna rain
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I am also sure all the poor animals (Orang utans and all ) in Indonesia also will welcome the relief (hopefully it rained there too)
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Am I seeing things .....
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Enjoy while it lasts :)
Don't know when haze coming back again ....
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Time to venture out for makan in 30mins time :)))
Enjoy while it lasts :)
Don't know when haze coming back again ....
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Time to venture out for makan in 30mins time :)))
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Went up to PSI 47 leow at 11.00 am....
Psi go up fast sia!
taking lots of deep breaths now!
Savour it while it�lasts
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Haze is back.
PSI going up like last few minutes at $1/- motorbike COE bidding and spike to the the thousands so suddenly , so short lived
Every hour passed, it raised by 10 points.....
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Every hour passed, it raised by 10 points.....
If this is share, 'bee tang leow' ...
if this is share, do you want it to drop all the way?
PSI going up like last few minutes at $1/- motorbike COE bidding and spike to the the thousands so suddenly , so short lived
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Drop all the way then buy more of it. Wait for it to rise and sell ...
Drove past a football field last weekend. Adult teams playing and half the players had n95 masks on, no kidding. The new normal.
Wearing N95 to play football?
Drove past a football field last weekend. Adult teams playing and half the players had n95 masks on, no kidding. The new normal.
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Haze really back, the white layer of haze back on our sky again!
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... will the plantation farmers tell him and his silly VP Kalla to be thankful that they got 9 months of clean air and blue skies?
I'm sure that will be acceptable for Kalla
So now that the haze has reached Jakarta and Widodo had to cut short his US trip...
... will the plantation farmers tell him and his silly VP Kalla to be thankful that they got 9 months of clean air and blue skies?
I'm sure that will be acceptable for KallaThought indo has declared state of emergency due to haze?
Haze really back, the white layer of haze back on our sky again!
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Current wind direction are partial blow from Kalimantan at 4pm.
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Thought indo has declared state of emergency due to haze?
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Rain not long and heavy enough to keep even one haze free day
I believe the haze will clear up again by tonight... Current wind direction are partial blow from Kalimantan
Base on this...forecast for 10pm
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tomorrow ponding!!! hahahaha
3-4 hrs of rain = 3-4 hrs of haze free sky?
Rain not long and heavy enough to keep even one haze free day
Cause the haze overpower the rain.
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So now that the haze has reached Jakarta and Widodo had to cut short his US trip...
... will the plantation farmers tell him and his silly VP Kalla to be thankful that they got 9 months of clean air and blue skies?
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His name Kalla as in Malay - "Kalah �tapi style mahu " �Saw his interview today in CNA - He is like damn animated "aksi aksi Mat Yoyo " like as if his plans are so easy - somemore he says he got chemicals from Jepun for dousing and like going to use his elephants �to spray ah?? He does not even know how big his country is; Damn Myopic this guy � � ��
Thought indo has declared state of emergency due to haze?
They can declare anything as if its a blockbuster - �"Akan Datang" �always�
Wearing N95 to play football?
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yup. would've taken a pic if I had not been driving
when problem still not that serious the minister rejected help, now want to declare state of emergency?
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This should be the new definition of incompetence.�
when problem still not that serious the minister rejected help, now want to declare state of emergency?
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This should be the new definition of incompetence.�
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bcos when state of emergency is declared, that's when more funds are released and more contractors can be arranged....
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that's why some pple want to see a small issue escalate... then use it to justify a higher budget.
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its the pple on the street that will suffer.
aiyah launang like him dry long ago alreddi....
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Current wind direction are partial blow from Kalimantan at 4pm.
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http://news.asiaone....ffected-regions
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President Joko "Jokowi" Widodo is set to personally lead the haze countermeasure efforts and stay at the affected regions such as Jambi and Palangkaraya in Central Kalimantan following his return to Indonesia after a brief visit to the US.
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"[The President] will stay for several days in the [affected regions] to directly conduct [haze countermeasure efforts]. He will probably returned to Indonesia on Friday and [fly] straight to the sites," said Coordinating Political, Legal and Security Affairs Minister Luhut Binsar Pandjaitan in Jakarta on Tuesday as quoted by kompas.com.
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According to Luhut, Jokowi's decision to stay in the affected regions was part of his commitment to tackle the disaster.Previously, Jokowi called Luhut on Monday morning and received reports that the number of hot spots in South Sumatra and Central Kalimantan reached 146 and 366, respectively.
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"Since there are many complaints from the people regarding health and social impacts due to haze, I've decided to cancel my trip to the West Coast," said Jokowi.Separately, House of Representatives (DPR) deputy speaker Agus Hermanto praised Jokowi's decision to cut short his US state visit.Agus also called on the government to immediately take strict action toward the culprits of forest and land fires."We have to involve law enforcement and continue [to process the culprits] until they are sent to prison. As for the companies, [we] should revoked their production forest concessions [HPH]. These [actions] should be done immediately," said Agus - See more at: http://news.asiaone....h.uUoR5HZ8.dpuf
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some may say it's just a wayang show but I think it's a good move in the right direction. Next he shld ensure the relevant ministers and landowners stay in the affected areas until issue is solved
http://news.asiaone....ffected-regions
President Joko "Jokowi" Widodo is set to personally lead the haze countermeasure efforts and stay at the affected regions such as Jambi and Palangkaraya in Central Kalimantan following his return to Indonesia after a brief visit to the US.
"[The President] will stay for several days in the [affected regions] to directly conduct [haze countermeasure efforts]. He will probably returned to Indonesia on Friday and [fly] straight to the sites," said Coordinating Political, Legal and Security Affairs Minister Luhut Binsar Pandjaitan in Jakarta on Tuesday as quoted by kompas.com.
According to Luhut, Jokowi's decision to stay in the affected regions was part of his commitment to tackle the disaster.Previously, Jokowi called Luhut on Monday morning and received reports that the number of hot spots in South Sumatra and Central Kalimantan reached 146 and 366, respectively.
"Since there are many complaints from the people regarding health and social impacts due to haze, I've decided to cancel my trip to the West Coast," said Jokowi.Separately, House of Representatives (DPR) deputy speaker Agus Hermanto praised Jokowi's decision to cut short his US state visit.Agus also called on the government to immediately take strict action toward the culprits of forest and land fires."We have to involve law enforcement and continue [to process the culprits] until they are sent to prison. As for the companies, [we] should revoked their production forest concessions [HPH]. These [actions] should be done immediately," said Agus - See more at: http://news.asiaone....h.uUoR5HZ8.dpuf
some may say it's just a wayang show but I think it's a good move in the right direction. Next he shld ensure the relevant ministers and landowners stay in the affected areas until issue is solved
North east monsoon might bring the haze from Kalimantan to Jakarta, that why he is concern. I think he could care less about Sumatra.
This is not a mrt system failure, its so much much more important than that. We are talking about millions and millions of people health and life.
i though he will be a great president for indo, seem like im maybe wrong.
Hard to get re-elect. This group of people will cause the downfall of his era, so many millions affected and drag for so many months already.
This is not a mrt system failure, its so much much more important than that. We are talking about millions and millions of people health and life.
i though he will be a great president for indo, seem like im maybe wrong.
?????exactly what his peoples' predicament at the moment.
Maybe because he is too upright, all his corrupted ministers not listening to him.
NE monsoon is here.
Super clear skies this morning!!!
Super clear skies this morning!!!
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NE monsoon is here.
Will it stay and would not change anymore? So that the haze will never come back?
We should be toward the end of the seasonal transition, it may change day-to-day slightly, but certainly it will stay at least until January. Unless we are going through climate change ... then winter will also not come for China, Korea, Japan .. magnetic fields will shift ... oceans will shift ..
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Will it stay and would not change anymore? So that the haze will never come back?
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Rainfall in Indonesia starts taming forest fires and hazeBY JOE COCHRANE �PUBLISHED: 9:33 AM, OCTOBER 29, 2015�An Indonesian soldier checks on a peat land fire near Palangkaraya, central Kalimantan, Indonesia, on Oct 28, 2015. Photo: Reuters�JAKARTA � Thanks to heavy rainfall, Indonesia may have turned the corner in battling mass forest fires that have blanketed much of Southeast Asia in toxic haze, but more rain will be needed in the coming days to get the blazes under control, a senior government minister said Wednesday.�Torrential rains overnight Tuesday (Oct 27) in the regions of Sumatra and Kalimantan � where forest fires have been raging for weeks, sickening hundreds of thousands of people � have significantly reduced the size and number of fires, said Mr Luhut B Pandjaitan, Indonesia�s coordinating minister for political, legal and security affairs.��I hope we have turned the corner,� he said in an interview. �If the rain continues over the next five days, we are past this.��Mr Sutopo Purwo Nugroho, spokesman for the National Agency for Disaster Management in Indonesia, said visibility and air quality had improved since Monday in affected areas.�He said the number of �hot spots�, areas where satellite imagery shows heavy forest fires, had dropped to 291 on yesterday from 1,578 on Monday because of the heavy rains.��This is significant. It�s much better now,� Mr Sutopo said, but he added that air quality in some affected areas continued to be measured as �unhealthy�.�Some scientists had feared the fires and haze could last through the end of the year. The crisis began in late August when fires were set to clear land for palm oil plantations and other agricultural uses. While this has been occurring for decades, an especially long dry season this year coupled with the effects of El Nio threaten to make the fires and haze the worst on record, according to scientists.�Mr Luhut, who has been appointed by Indonesia�s president to oversee the crisis, said more rain was forecast for the coming days, although not every day, in southern Sumatra and most of Kalimantan, also known as Indonesian Borneo.��It�s too early to tell, but if the rain comes again tomorrow and the next, then 75 percent of the fires will be stopped,� he said.�Seventeen Indonesian civilians have died from respiratory illnesses caused by the haze, as well as one firefighter in an operational accident, Mr Luhut said.�Indonesia has deployed 2,000 army soldiers and 500 police officers to Sumatra and Kalimantan to help local fire crews battle the blazes. The government is also using airplanes and helicopters to drop water and fire retardants.�President Joko Widodo of Indonesia cut short by one day an official visit to the United States this week so he could return home to tour affected areas. He was scheduled to visit South Sumatra on Thursday.�Firefighting and commercial aircraft were able to land thanks to better visibility on Wednesday in Palangkaraya, the capital of Central Kalimantan province, and Palembang, the capital of South Sumatra province, where flights had been cancelled for days, Luhut said.�The Indonesian government has set up shelters containing air purifiers for families with infants who want to evacuate their homes for health reasons.�Mr Luhut said that less than 100 people took up the offer in Sumatra and that yesterday there were no new arrivals at shelters there or in Kalimantan.�In the early weeks of the crisis, Indonesia was criticised by its neighbours, including Singapore and Malaysia, where haze has blanketed parts of those countries, as well as southern Thailand and the southern Philippines.�Asked if the Indonesian government had mishandled the crisis in its earlier weeks, Mr Luhut said the country�s �one mistake� was in approving palm oil concessions on 14.8 million acres of peatlands during the past decade, which when drained and burned to clear land for agriculture emit high levels of carbon dioxide into the air. NEW YORK TIMES�
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I can see Batam today!!!
I can see Batam today!!!
The weather today seems very clear le.
Yea...my eyes vision Full HD today!
Yea...my eyes vision Full HD today!
Hopefully this vision will remain full HD from now on.
Yea...my eyes vision Full HD today!
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Errrrr............ can upgrade to 4K colours engine with UHD ...
I can see Batam today!!!
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Copied this from another site.
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' there are some 17+ Companies or Corporations and their executives that the RI government is taking to court over the slash and burn tactics used on the properties they own. Seven of them are owned by Singaporeans!!! '
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Is it correct????
only 7?
i think at least 60-70% of the paper company or palm oil plantations in indon are singapore companies or JVs
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Copied this from another site.
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' there are some 17+ Companies or Corporations and their executives that the RI government is taking to court over the slash and burn tactics used on the properties they own. Seven of them are owned by Singaporeans!!! '
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Is it correct????
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Haze getting smaller and less dense. Raining at Sumatra and Kalimantan?
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Wohoo... wind direction from northeast blowing. keep it up!
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Edited by Wt_know, 29 October 2015 - 09:25 PM.
we need him to predict win
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OK.... what's the number ?� Sat I buy .....
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we need him to predict wind
Who is this huh?
Feels good to have our clean air back!
Hope can keep air purifier soon.
Just had a walk in the park .
Feels good to have our clean air back!
Hope can keep air purifier soon.
North wind is strong
Haha miracle the fires no more
Can keep air purifier Liao
See you guys next year!!!!
Who is this huh?
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ZhuGe Liang
North wind is strong
Haha miracle the fires no more
Can keep air purifier Liao
See you guys next year!!!!�
you farted,suddenly the psi around you shoot up to 2000.
Haze getting smaller and less dense. Raining at Sumatra and Kalimantan?
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Wohoo... wind direction from northeast blowing. keep it up!
Looks like the NE monsoon started liao. Yea!!..�
indeed. �Good weather has returned....
you farted,suddenly the psi around you shoot up to 2000.
Haha page 228
Haha page 228
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eh you want pg 800 like elections ah....mai lah mai lah....hahahaha
eh you want pg 800 like elections ah....mai lah mai lah....hahahaha
228 already kpkb Liao
800 means psi1000 liao loh
Coe lau sai 20k
Looks like the NE monsoon started liao. Yea!!..�
If NE monsoon really started liao, then haze would not come back anymore.
we need him to predict wind
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this guy can only borrow east wind for 1 day
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after that run away liao
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Must learn to appreciate what nature offers us :))
Hopefully we have more haze free days from now onwards :)
and enjoy our coming weekend :))
Yesterday night went for a run at ECP all the way towards Barrage ..... was quite packed with bikers and runners. Saw 2 chaps wearing funny kind of breathing apparatus (I must say) it looked like something hybrid between N95 and what the frogmen wear and many circles like thing near the nose and cheeks area ; But the chap wearing it was panting away like crazy and noisy too; must be something new in the market; should have taken a snap shot but in running motion and darkness its quite difficult.... any bros seen any kind of contraption like that � � �
this guy can only borrow east wind for 1 day
after that run away liao
Run away very fast one
this guy can only borrow east wind for 1 day
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after that run away liao
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Cao Cao coming, still don't want to run away ?....
ZhuGe Liang
Oh... pig brother Liang...
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If NE monsoon really started liao, then haze would not come back anymore.
Yes, and even if the indo is still burning, they are the only ones suffering..
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With the dropped in temperature and slightly more rains, good indicator that it has started.
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Cao Cao coming, still don't want to run away ?....
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he wasn't running away from cao cao lah
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Orr...hehe....romance of the 3 kingdoms
Enjoy the nice blue sky! :)
give a few weeks more of blue skies and can start hunting for 2nd hand air purifiers liao.
give a few weeks more of blue skies and can start hunting for 2nd hand air purifiers liao.
If haze doesn't come back anymore, think should start to buy air purifier to stand by for next year haze. No haze period, more stock and variety to choose.
If haze doesn't come back anymore, think should start to buy air purifier to stand by for next year haze. No haze period, more stock and variety to choose.
Those wanna buy one better summer that time buy winter clothes
It seems the environmental regional disaster topic of year 2015 is gonna end soon. We hope our dearest neighbor will look into the issue with both eyes open and punish whoever responsible. We can only pray and hope we do need to revisit similar topic thread for 2016. It is easier said than done, by the way. So enjoy the fresh air, clear blue sky while we can until next year....�
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it is going to be a wet and gloomy evening �
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it is going to be a wet and gloomy evening �
Outside sky quite dark and seems going to rain soon?
It seems the environmental regional disaster topic of year 2015 is gonna end soon. We hope our dearest neighbor will look into the issue with both eyes open and punish whoever responsible. We can only pray and hope we do need to revisit similar topic thread for 2016. It is easier said than done, by the way. So enjoy the fresh air, clear blue sky while we can until next year....�
I don't believe the haze issue can be solve. The only thing that we can do is to get prepared for next year haze, and protect ourself and minimise the impact�from the haze.�Stock up more masks, buy air purifier and install aircon if your house don't have one.
Outside sky quite dark and seems going to rain soon?
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Rain liao.
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Waiting to hear complaints about transport inconvenience.
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Rain liao.
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Waiting to hear complaints about transport inconvenience.
Where rain eh?
Rain liao.
Waiting to hear complaints about transport inconvenience.
Hehe, where raining huh?
2day has the most beautiful sky in months :)
Where rain eh?
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Central.� Stopped liao.� Heng ah! No need to drive on wet road.
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its been long since I saw blue sky
Haze is almost completely gone.
Yay! So nice
Thank you Abang! Cheers to 11 months of great air.
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Had a wonderful relax picnic trip at East Coast.... and its haze free... and lots of BBQ smell :))
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Hope we have seen the last of haze .... yeah :)
Haze is almost completely gone.
Every year sop one
North wind come only, magic all the fire gone
Jarkata will never kena one
Every year sop one
North wind come only, magic all the fire gone
Jarkata will never kena one�
yah.
When the NE wind coming in and rain starting, Joko start to go there and wayang.
Why don't go when PSI is >2000.
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PSI 2000 maybe the plane or helicopter can't land there?�
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When the NE wind coming in and rain starting, Joko start to go there and wayang.
Why don't go when PSI is >2000.
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Every year sop one
North wind come only, magic all the fire gone
Jarkata will never kena one�
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Haze is gone as NE wind blow and rainy season arrived.
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Jakarta never impacted serious enough for this seasons means that Haze will come again next year!
The central government will be reluctant to implement those decisive action and policy.
Burning forest for palm oil is their country GDP, provide job and earning for locals.
only APP is named and some more only "voluntary" by supermarket to remove their items
no prosecution whatsoever ... honest mistake and move on liao once the sky is cleared
now can keep the mask and purifier for next Sep ....
Burning forest for palm oil is their country GDP, provide job and earning for locals.
Edited by Wt_know, 01 November 2015 - 11:04 AM.
spore govt must punish and prosecute companies involved in burning
only APP is named and some more only "voluntary" by supermarket to remove their items
no prosecution whatsoever ... honest mistake and move on liao once the sky is cleared
now can keep the mask and purifier for next Sep ....
If you follow the news more closely, the Jakarta is refusing to provide more company name when Singapore is still asking for it 2 days again.
spore govt sure know the companies la ... even NGO know every companies
govt some more want to share satellite photo with indon to battle haze
sibei act blur lor ... wayang like police dont know there were prostiitutes standing at geylang street
�If you follow the news more closely, the Jakarta is refusing to provide more company name when Singapore is still asking for it 2 days again.
Edited by Wt_know, 01 November 2015 - 01:37 PM.
Haze is almost completely gone.
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Here's how satellite image over Sumatra looks like when wind direction flips 180�.
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Taken last Feb during NE monsoon. The fire still continue through out the year.
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We still need to continue pressure and prosecute the culprts, blue sky or not.
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Wonder how many times the size of Singapore burnt ...
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Yahoo : 2 million hectares of Indonesian forest burnt since June, says report
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More than two million hectares of Indonesia's forests were burnt down in the past five months, Indonesian authorities have revealed, as neighbouring countries get respite from the choking smoke.
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Jakarta Globe reported the country's National Space and Aviation Agency (Lapan) as estimating that 2,089,911 hectares of forest area were lost to fires, based on satellite data collected from June 21 to October 20.
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�We have compared the data gathered from before and after the fires started,� Parwati Sofan, a senior official at Lapan was quoted as telling a press conference in Central Jakarta on Friday.
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It said Lapan estimated that 832,999 hectares of forests were burnt in Sumatra, 806,817 hectares in Kalimantan, 353,191 hectares in Papua, 30,912 hectares in Sulawesi, 30,162 hectares in Bali and Nusa Tenggara, 18,768 in Java, and 17,063 in Maluku.
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The figures may actually be higher, as Parwati reportedly said the satellite is unable to scan forest areas covered in smoke.
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He added that the numbers were expected to increase since they were still in the midst of collecting date.
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Meanwhile, Indonesia's Natural Disaster Mitigation Agency (BNPB) spokesman Sutopo Purwo Nugroho reportedly said that 32% of the hot spots were in non-concession forest areas, 20% in industrial forest areas, and 20% in palm oil plantations.
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Smoke from Indonesia's forest fires have choked neighbouring countries for nearly two months now, forcing schools in Malaysia to close for several days on end, flights to be cancelled, and a hike in illnesses across several states. � November 1, 2015.
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Another day of haze free ... must learn how to appreciate :)
Here's how satellite image over Sumatra looks like when wind direction flips 180�.
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Taken last Feb during NE monsoon. The fire still continue through out the year.
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We still need to continue pressure and prosecute the culprts, blue sky or not.
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whoa!!!! those guys really suffer day in day out!!!!
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whoa!!!! those guys really suffer day in day out!!!!
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Must thanks the North-East wind .....
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Can see the haze blown inward to their own country� ....
Must thanks the North-East wind .....
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Can see the haze blown inward to their own country� ....
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digs a hole, fall into it
Must thanks the North-East wind .....
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Can see the haze blown inward to their own country� ....
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While I cannot ask for more now that we have our clear weather back!
I believe many will be hoping that the wind direction blow the haze and smoke to Jakarta so that people there will experience the effect themselves.
While I cannot ask for more now that we have our clear weather back!
I believe many will be hoping that the wind direction blow the haze and smoke to Jakarta so that people there will experience the effect themselves.
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Yeah! If wind blow to Jakarta that's the best! Then we will see all the actions to stop haze and forest burning immediately!
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If not, all just talk cock by them especially the tiny brains of VP Kalla...
Yeah! If wind blow to Jakarta that's the best! Then we will see all the actions to stop haze and forest burning immediately!
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If not, all just talk cock by them especially the tiny brains of VP Kalla...
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now the psi got about 50
donno why
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Past few weekend i could not go out or do outdoor activity cause it was so hazy. Finally this weekend the sky was haze free and yet i was sick and could not go out again!
Hope it ends here
It will ends for the year of 2015 only. Don't think the haze will end forever.
11 months blue sky ... 1 month dark sky ... indon says one
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It will ends for the year of 2015 only. Don't think the haze will end forever.
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It will ends for the year of 2015 only. Don't think the haze will end forever.
Glad that least it ends for 2015, sch holidays coming soon. Wish to do more outdoor with my family lol
I can be �brutally frank� - Vivian Balakrishnan:
http://www.todayonli...an-balakrishnan
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�I know foreign ministers are supposed to be nice, smiley, diplomatic people. But since I used to be the Environment Minister, I can be frank. Brutally frank. �the transboundary haze, caused by forest fires in Indonesia, (is) a deliberate, man-made tragedy and a crime.
It would be bad enough if this was a natural disaster. We would all shake our heads, huddle together, reach out, help one another. But this is not a natural disaster. This is �vandalism against society, against the environment, and ultimately, against ourselves. It has impaired the health of millions of people, compromised the safety of aircraft, and damaged our regional economy�.�
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In non-diplomatic words, VIvian just gave Indonesia� a "F*** you" message.
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In non-diplomatic words, VIvian just gave Indonesia� a "F*** you" message.
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that gally only know how to tekan singapore lang .... the rest of the world also dont give a F to him�
We are lucky that the wind change directions ..........�
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This one is worst than HAZE ......�� Ashes from volcano ....
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Yahoo : Bali flights grounded after ash cloud closes airport
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Ash spewing from a volcano forced Indonesian authorities to close the international airport on Bali on Tuesday, an official said, temporarily grounding all flights to the popular holiday island.
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Authorities decided to close Ngurah Rai International Airport for four hours until 11.30 pm (1530 GMT) so they could assess the risk posed by a large ash cloud drifting from Mount Rinjani, an active volcano on the nearby island of Lombok.
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Airport manager Trikora Harjo said the situation would be re-evaluated as the evening went on but unless conditions improved the airport could remain shut.
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"If there's any chance available (to reopen the airport) I will, but if not, I will continue to keep it closed," he told AFP, adding he did not yet know how many flights would be affected.
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Australian airlines Virgin Australia and Jetstar had already cancelled all flights Tuesday, deeming conditions unsafe for flying, with Virgin also scrapping its roster for Wednesday.
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Jetstar advised passengers not to travel to the airport for flights to and from Bali until further notice, while AirAsia said several flights would be "adjusted" due to the temporary closure.
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Ash from a different volcano stranded thousands of passengers on Bali for days during the peak holiday season in July.
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Volcanic ashes contain silicar gel which causes lungs cancel and smaller then the 2.5 micron�haze dust.....
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from : Wikipedia
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"Volcanic ash is not the product of combustion, like the soft fluffy material created by burning wood, leaves, or paper. Volcanic ash is hard, does not dissolve in water, is extremely abrasive and mildly corrosive, and conducts electricity when wet. Volcanic ash is formed during explosive volcanic eruptions.
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Volcanic ash consists of fragments of pulverized rock, minerals and volcanic glass, created during volcanic eruptions and measuring less than 2 mm (0.079 inches) in diameter"
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https://en.wikipedia...ki/Volcanic_ash
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Yahoo : Bali flights grounded after ash cloud closes airport
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Bali very far leh�
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Kalimantan also very far but haze still reach here ...
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Still remember in the 90's where Philippines Mount Pinatubo erupted and its ashes flew accross South China Sea and reached Singapore.
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I�had to wash my car daily cos got a layer of 'white' ashes from Mt Pinatubo�on the vehicle ..
Kalimantan also very far but haze still reach here ...
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Still remember in the 90's where Philippines Mount Pinatubo erupted and its ashes flew accross South China Sea and reached Singapore.
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I�had to wash my car daily cos got a layer of 'white' ashes from Mt Pinatubo�on the vehicle ..
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The wind direction now should be flavor for us. If the wind really blow the volcano ashes �towards �the north, it will hit Jakarta first.
Another day of haze free :)
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Hopefully, cannot count using my 10 fingers soon :)
that gally only know how to tekan singapore lang .... the rest of the world also dont give a F to him�
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Put your political view aside, you cannot deny� Vivian is speaking up against the criminal act commited every year.
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So why do you claim "rest of world" don't give a F when this year's Haze is become an international news ?�
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Its seems some ave extremely short memory once the Haze is "gone"....
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Even Harrison Ford was pissed and I can almost here him saying "F You ! " at the Indonesian minister...
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Put your political view aside, you cannot deny� Vivian is speaking up against the criminal act commited every year.
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So why do you claim "rest of world" don't give a F when this year's Haze is become an international news ?�
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Its seems some ave extremely short memory once the Haze is "gone"....
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Even Harrison Ford was pissed and I can almost here him saying "F You ! " at the Indonesian minister...
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I said dont bother about him ... I didnt say dont bother about the haze .... I think you should open your eyes bigger next time.�
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If you so like to F the indo gov , why dont you write to them or in their FB ? thats easier and faster ...�
Whats the point of sharing what VV said ?�
Edited by Angcheek, 04 November 2015 - 01:51 PM.
Another day of haze free :)
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Hopefully, cannot count using my 10 fingers soon :)
Past few day always rain in the afternoon, maybe it helps also?!
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Haze ? Lai Liao is it? The forecast for Friday and Saturday look bad.
OMG! Haze don't come back, please!
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3hr PSI 86.
I think the highest since last Wednesday.
Quite humid this evening. I returned from a run round the bay and there's no wind unlike the past few days.
Seemed like weekend forecast is also not good
Today back to unhealthy levels......what happened to the north wind huh?
Seemed like weekend forecast is also not good�
Tor-long .... wanna bring kids to some trekking, after exams ...
Haze haze, pls don't come ...
Cant see Batam this morning.
Cant see Batam this morning.
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its bacccccccccccccccccckkkk
I was watching the Terengganu vs LionsXII match last night. The match was stopped halfway due to monsoon downpour. The PSI was 60+ before match started. As the delay was going on, it slowly climbed to 78. The downpour at Terengganu was very heavy.
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knn, what the hell is going on?!?!?!?!
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I said dont bother about him ... I didnt say dont bother about the haze .... I think you should open your eyes bigger next time.�
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If you so like to F the indo gov , why dont you write to them or in their FB ? thats easier and faster ...�
Whats the point of sharing what VV said ?�
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*sigh*..like I mentioned before, people have short memory..
Vivian was speaking as a new FM and it is unusual for a minister in this porfoliao to be so publicly blunt towards another country...
In fact, this is what you wrote when commenting about Vivian in his new role in Sep...
http://www.mycarforu...19#entry5613542
so now you know why people get promoted ... bec they need to follow up with the issue.�
When the issue got upgraded ... they get promoted ... ! Damn good logic ! Should have known ...�
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Which was the reason why I asked you to:
a) put your political view aside since the Minister was speaking up against the criminal act.
b) why do you claim "rest of world" don't give a F when this year's Haze is become an international news ?�
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"...The rainfall over the last week was not sustained enough to put out all the fires burning over forest and peatland, although it did improve conditions enough to take air quality in affected areas back to pre-haze levels in recent days."��
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Looking at the photo, I cannot help thinking how fertile and rich in nutrent the ground is now...which is a good time to plant another cash crop.� That means the same cycle begin this year and next the slash and burn continue in 2nd half of 2016.
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Here's a photo of newly planted palm oil treelets taken in Oct. Notice the air is still smothering with haze...
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Looking at the photo, I cannot help thinking how fertile and rich in nutrent the ground is now...which is a good time to plant another cash crop.� That means the same cycle begin this year and next the slash and burn continue in 2nd half of 2016.
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Here's a photo of newly planted palm oil treelets taken in Oct. Notice the air is still smothering with haze...
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And the cycle repeats again and again and year in and year out ....
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Sianzzz.....
This morning a bit hazy but now the sky seems clear.
And the cycle repeats again and again and year in and year out ....
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Now you know why Vivian and Mr Ford both display unvarnished anger in both words and tone towards Indonesian authority and alleged companies involved.
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How long are we prepared to breath air year in and year out when such large scale crimes are openly commiited just next door ?
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For the record, we don't "owe" Indonesia oxygen 11 months in a year. More like 9 months only.
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Healthy looking palm oil plantation while nearby forest are being cleared by burning.
Natural diaster or Man-made ?
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This morning a bit hazy but now the sky seems clear.
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No leh. Still cant see Batam. Yesterday I could see Batam clearly. Should have taken a photo of the clear view yesterday.
Now you know why Vivian and Mr Ford both display unvarnished anger in both words and tone towards Indonesian authority and alleged companies involved.
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How long are we prepared to breath air year in and year out when such large scale crimes are openly commiited just next door ?
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For the record, we don't "owe" Indonesia oxygen 11 months in a year. More like 9 months only.
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Healthy looking palm oil plantation while nearby forest are being cleared by burning.
Natural diaster or Man-made ?
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Not just Vivian and Ford. It's a no brainer that people will be angry with Indonesia and I'm trying very hard to figure the point of your post complete with picture and rhetorical questions.�
Not just Vivian and Ford. It's a no brainer that people will be angry with Indonesia and I'm trying very hard to figure the point of your post complete with picture and rhetorical questions.�
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Since you appreciate my question(s) of being rhetorical, I can also safely assume you know the answer already.
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At least we agree that there are good reasons to F Indonesia for the haze, one way or another.
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Since you appreciate my question(s) of being rhetorical, I can also safely assume you know the answer already.
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You want to chalk up posts?�
Welcome back...we did not miss you....bummer
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you really want to waste time on him....best to ignore the troll. �Seems to be getting on everybody's nerves with the 'i know better' attitude and reeks strongly with condescendance. �Waste time not on this one
Welcome back...we did not miss you....bummer
you really want to waste time on him....best to ignore the troll. Seems to be getting on everybody's nerves with the 'i know better' attitude and reeks strongly with condescendance. Waste time not on this one
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Return my northeast wind!
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Welcome back...we did not miss you....bummer
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you really want to waste time on him....best to ignore the troll. �Seems to be getting on everybody's nerves with the 'i know better' attitude and reeks strongly with condescendance. �Waste time not on this one
??? really �psi is 137 how come mine only shows 60-91 range by NEA �and highest was now at 7 pm (3 hours psi)
And the cycle repeats again and again and year in and year out ....
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Wonder why the indon don't burn forest in Java and grow palm oil plantation there.
You want to chalk up posts?�
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bro, I join MCF 2 years after you, but already way ahead of me x7 in the no. of postings.
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so simply clocking up msg is this Forum isn't my purpose since I have more productive and creative things to do in the real World.
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Anyway, I noticed that you see half-empty glass in your reply to me.
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Why's that ?
Wonder why the indon don't burn forest in Java and grow palm oil plantation there.
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...because its capital is in Java island ?
bro, I join MCF 2 years after you, but already way ahead of me x7 in the no. of postings.
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so simply clocking up msg is this Forum isn't my purpose since I have more productive and creative things to do in the real World.
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Anyway, I noticed that you see half-empty glass in your reply to me.
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Why's that ?
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I don't understand your "see half empty glass" statement. Maybe you can elaborate.
you really want to waste time on him....best to ignore the troll. �Seems to be getting on everybody's nerves with the 'i know better' attitude and reeks strongly with condescendance. �Waste time not on this one
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Isnt that a trait of taxi uncles??? Well you must understand he is or was a taxi uncle.
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I hate this type of taxi uncle who always tell me they are so and so before and met so and so before. None of my business, I just want a ride from a to b.
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Air quality expected to worsen as haze returnsThe clear skies seen over the past few days, such as this one on Nov 3, 2015, may soon give way to haze again.�ST PHOTO: CHONG JUN LIANGThe haze is creeping its way back into Singapore, after a brief hiatus brought on by increased rainfall.
Air quality here for today is expected to deteriorate into the high end of the moderate range, the National Environment Agency (NEA) said in a forecast yesterday.
And it may even waft into the low end of the unhealthy range if denser haze is blown in.
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This comes after a week of clearer skies thanks to wetter weather, with 24-hour Pollutant Standards Index (PSI) readings staying well in the middle of the moderate range of 50 to 100.
Despite continued showers and a fall in the number of hot spots in Sumatra from 66 last week to 55 yesterday, the haze is still expected to make a return here.
As of 5pm yesterday, the 24-hour PSI reading was 75 to 86. The one-hour PM2.5 reading then was 40-50 micrograms per cubic m.
Prevailing winds today are expected to be weak and blow from the south or south-west, with thundery showers forecast in the late morning and early afternoon, the NEA said.
Slight haze and reduced visibility conditions can be expected "if winds are unfavourable", it added.
Given the air quality forecast for today, the NEA advised healthy people to reduce prolonged or strenuous outdoor physical exertion.
Dr Erik Velasco, a research scientist from the Singapore-MIT Alliance for Research and Technology, said that rain in Singapore is no permanent cure for the haze here.
"If we experience heavy rain, it will be a temporary relief, but only for a few hours," he said.
"What we need to stop the haze is more rain in Sumatra and Kalimantan."
Dr Velasco added that if winds continue to blow from the south and east, where Sumatra and Kalimantan are, respectively, hazy conditions will also persist.
He also cautioned that a drop in detected hot spots may not necessarily mean cleaner air.
"Satellite images may not be able to pick up all the hot spots if conditions are cloudy," he said.
Still, he remains optimistic about the air situation here.
"I'm not expecting very serious haze here again," he said.
"It has been raining in Kalimantan and Sumatra, and the number of forest fires has dropped a lot."
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Isnt that a trait of taxi uncles??? Well you must understand he is or was a taxi uncle.
I hate this type of taxi uncle who always tell me they are so and so before and met so and so before. None of my business, I just want a ride from a to b.
I didn't know he was a taxi driver. And I thought he's some Professor or Chief Economist of the IMF type by the way he writesYes. Can see the senoko chimney clearly.
Today's air is nice, enjoy ur Sat!
Today air indeed nice, but it was raining in some area. Lol.
Knn going up again
Seems like a�bit hazy today.
Seems like a�bit hazy today.
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Yes. It is hazy. Only can see half of Singapore Straits. Cant see Batam.
Yes. It is hazy. Only can see half of Singapore Straits. Cant see Batam.
Lol, you always use batam as a gauge to see if the sky is hazy or not?!
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Lol, you always use batam as a gauge to see if the sky is hazy or not?!
Yes. Cos it is the furthest I can see from my office on a clear day.
I don't understand your "see half empty glass" statement. Maybe you can elaborate.
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It's very obvious actually -� In your reply,� you quoted only the 1st sentence from my post (see below) while ignoring the 2nd which I stressed our common agreement that Indonesia's incompetence and its crime needs to the F'd.
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Hope this explain why I said your perception in our exchange as being "half empty glass" ?�
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Since you appreciate my question(s) of being rhetorical, I can also safely assume you know the answer already.
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At least we agree that there are good reasons to F Indonesia for the haze, one way or another.
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Lol, you always use batam as a gauge to see if the sky is hazy or not?!
Yes. Cos it is the furthest I can see from my office on a clear day.
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lol !� keeping an unofficial weather lookout is one of the benefits of having a paranomic view.
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http://www.mycarforu...95#entry5587579
Psi 20 super clean
Hehe...suddenly see this thread, for a moment thot haze is back...btw is haze gone for rest of year?
Hehe...suddenly see this thread, for a moment thot haze is back...btw is haze gone for rest of year?
Come again next year lah
Finally Haze is over !
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Just in time for school holidays' programmes :)
Come again next year lah
Yay!
Bye bye Haze
byeeeee haze.....thank you for 10 mths now of clean air...knn indon...
So did the burning stop or the wind blowing another direction?
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curry mutton and susah wesy still have burning
Hehe...suddenly see this thread, for a moment thot haze is back...btw is haze gone for rest of year?
Haze should be over for the year 2015. Haze should be back in Jun again next year?
Haze should be over for the year 2015. Haze should be back in Jun again next year?
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My source indicate the fire-season is over and plantation owners are now taking aventage of the coming rainy season and burnt fertile soil to plant the next cycle of crops.
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Yes, we should be seeing the same sight in about 10 months from now.
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Haze should be over for the year 2015. Haze should be back in Jun again next year?
Enjoy christmas & cny first :)
My source indicate the fire-season is over and plantation owners are now taking aventage of the coming rainy season and burnt fertile soil to plant the next cycle of crops.
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Yes, we should be seeing the same sight in about 10 months from now.
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And the haze for every year is dragging longer and longer! Last time haze season here is only about 1-2 months, but now can drag for 4-6 months!
Wow, still getting Sumatra squall at this time...at least this is more welcoming aspect of SW monsoon before the onset of wetter season from the northenly cold front.
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So now they blame the wind rather than themselves who created this mess? I guess they do not have the intention to solve their haze problem?!
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wah piang ! this JOKER said that on a major international meet ?!����
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might as well use his same excuse next time and say "don't blame my fart, its the wind that I cannot control..."
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Our new foreign minister need to be more "brutally" frank with him the next time.
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Must be something to do with his little moustache...Mother Fcuker..�
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Stupidity really knows no boundaries
How he can be chosen as the V. President .....
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This is my view from my office on a partial clear day. Taken during lunch time. Some days, it was clearer. I use it as a gauge during the haze season.
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- Can see Batam = Good
- Can see ships = Moderate
- Cannot see Marina Barrage = Jialat
- Cannot see Shears Bridge = Very Jialat
- Cannot see Gardens by the bay = Very very jialat, mask on.
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I see your past navy experience has taught u well in weather "observation".
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This is my view from my office on a partial clear day. Taken during lunch time. Some days, it was clearer. I use it as a gauge during the haze season.
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- Can see Batam = Good
- Can see ships = Moderate
- Cannot see Marina Barrage = Jialat
- Cannot see Shears Bridge = Very Jialat
- Cannot see Gardens by the bay = Very very jialat, mask on.
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I see your past navy experience has taught u well in weather "observation".
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I was the Throttle Man for 1-2 years onboard. The person who actually drive the boat. So when cruising and at fixed RPM, can have time to look ard and enjoy the view.
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Whenever the OOW or CO shouts turn Port or Starboard, if the Lookouts are busy at one side, I go the other side and help check blind spot and shout back, Port or Starboard Clear. Then Steersman will start to turn the ship. This is where you can see how the bridge team gel as a team. No need say a word, we cover each others back.
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During exercise, also help them look for Man O' War. Scan the empty sea for mast or periscope. Once spotted, help shout , Mast or Ship spotted Port or Starboard side 2 O' clock, etc.............
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The fun times....................................
siao liao ... will this moustache joker claim credit if spore fertility rate climb next year? lol
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but some posting commented cannot MARIKITA leh because of haze ... muahahahaha
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Edited by Wt_know, 20 November 2015 - 11:29 PM.
Look at the clear view from my office yesterday morning. Can see Batam clearly.
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Look at the clear view from my office yesterday morning. Can see Batam clearly.
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Lets hope it stays this way�
Finally Indonesia is doing something. Hopefully they catch those main player in the market and not to do for show only, then close 2 eyes for the big player.
Edited by Yewheng, 22 December 2015 - 11:15 PM.
http://news.asiaone....ly-forest-fires
Finally Indonesia is doing something. Hopefully they catch those main player in the market and not to do for show only, then close 2 eyes for the big player.
Every time this thread comes up, reminds me of the bad air we had to breath & bear with for months
Edited by Pinobii, 22 December 2015 - 11:18 PM.
The psi page missed the 10pm and the 11pm reading already
MAybe supper break
Now those guys update Liao
MAybe supper break
I ish cum here rook see rook see
Haze seems to be back
The psi page missed the 10pm and the 11pm reading already
Hmmm...r u sure?! ... ...
I ish cum here rook see rook see
Starting to can't see no shit Liao
Hmmm...r u sure?! ... ...
The reading is 65
No increase
But visibility drop
Starting to can't see no shit Liao
The reading is 65
No increase
But visibility drop
...indo pls dun bless us with a hazy xmas...
...indo pls dun bless us with a hazy xmas...
Aqi side no nothing
Maybe just mist
Aqi side no nothing
Maybe just mist
Kekeke...which part of sg u stay huh....hopefully its mist....
Confirm don't have
Hehe, ownself chua tio ownself.
Hehe, ownself chua tio ownself.
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"" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; vertical-align: bottom;">PT Bumi Mekar Hijau found not guilty by Indonesian court of causing forest fires in Sumatra
By Saifulbahri Ismail
POSTED:�30 Dec 2015 17:56���UPDATED:�30 Dec 2015 18:27
Forest fires in Indonesia have helped lift the country to be one of the world's worst emitters of greenhouse gases. (Photo: Jack Board)
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SOUTH SUMATRA, Indonesia: A Palembang District Court in South Sumatra has rejected all claims made by the Indonesian Ministry of Environment and Forestry against PT Bumi Mekar Hijau, for allegedly causing forest fires in South Sumatra.
The Ministry had demanded a fine of more than US$570 million for damage made to the environment and for its recovery.
PT Bumi Mekar Hijau, a subsidiary of Asia Pulp and Paper, one of the largest pulp and paper companies in the world, was suspected of causing fires on 20,000 hectares of concession land in Ogan Kemering Ilir, South Sumatra in 2014.
In its ruling, the court's three judges said there was no damage done to the environment as a result of the forest fires on that land, and it could still be used for planting. In addition, the judges said the Indonesian government had not experienced losses as a result of the forest fires.
The court also ordered Jakarta to pay the costs of the proceedings, amounting to about US$700.
"The implications are extraordinary. In future, those responsible for forest fires and corporations will feel they can�t be touched by the law, and their bad practices will not change," said Khalisah Khalid, Head of Research and Resource Development, Indonesian Forum for the Environment.
"When the corporation�s bad practices can�t improve, the further implication is on ecological disaster. Haze will continue to happen, and the victims will continue to increase.�
Asia Pulp and Paper was one of several companies that had its products taken off the shelves in Singapore after the National Environment Agency (NEA) launched an investigation in September into the company's role in the forest fires in Indonesia.�
The NEA had sent a 'preventive measures' notice to the company asking it to deploy fire-fighting personnel to extinguish or prevent the spread of any fire on its land.
The 2015 forest fires are estimated to have cost Indonesia's economy US$16 billion, more than double the sum spent on rebuilding Aceh after the 2004 tsunami, according to the World Bank.�
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haha ying liao lor.
Want to bet how much the judges became richer by ? Lol.
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4 zeroes lol.
Want to bet how much the judges became richer by ? Lol.
And the best thing is, these 3 judges will park their money in Singapore.
Edited by Weez911, 30 December 2015 - 09:28 PM.
In its ruling, the court's three judges said there was no damage done to the environment as a result of the forest fires on that land, and it could still be used for planting. In addition, the judges said the Indonesian government had not experienced losses as a result of the forest fires.
The 2015 forest fires are estimated to have cost Indonesia's economy US$16 billion, more than double the sum spent on rebuilding Aceh after the 2004 tsunami, according to the World Bank.
World class !!
No damaged to the environment?
How about damage to the health of all of us ? Including their own people ?
This bring the Chinese saying ??????? to a whole new level!
Saw this thread active again, though haze came back?! Lol.
Saw this thread active again, though haze came back?! Lol.
Now is safe period, can ?? for a while
Don't forget this count down.
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Since we are in the middle of NE monsoon season now, we have remove least 3 months "credits" from Indo since the wind isn't coming from Sumatra..but from northernly wind from South China Sea..
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Our Northern neighbours machiam uprising. "Some people just want to watch the world burn".
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Even then, �the severity of the haze cant match what the Indonesia have done�in 2013 and 2015.
Even then, �the severity of the haze cant match what the Indonesia have done�in 2013 and 2015.
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Yes very much so.
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Now just fingers crossed Vietnam's upcoming nuclear plants are of quality.
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If not, the haze would be the least of Singapore's worries. We can really experience what it's like to live in vaults like Fallout.
Forest fires in Sarawak which have pushed air quality to hazardous levels are expected to rage for at least a week.
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Edited by Angcheek, 22 February 2016 - 07:50 PM.
Even then, �the severity of the haze cant match what the Indonesia have done�in 2013 and 2015.
If based on the trend, the severity of haze here is alternate year, 2013 and 2015 serious haze. So 2014 and 2016 the haze should be mild?
Forest fires in Sarawak which have pushed air quality to hazardous levels are expected to rage for at least a week.
http://www.channelne...qu/2537238.html
If you smell anything ...... its not from the old farts in MCF
Wah bouncy cheeks turned ai pee man, the world jit bai really siao liao
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Ipee man need money ... see my hand asking for donation ? $6.9B can already
lai liao lai liao
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Nearly 70 Forest Fires Found In Indonesia, Hazy Weather Possibly Soon
BycinnaboyPosted on�February 28, 2016
Although the region is experiencing rainy weather, it appears that Indonesia are still having forest fires, and their neighbours will probably suffer another round of bad hazy weather.
IMAGE FROM REUTERS3.1KSHARES����������Although the region is experiencing rainy weather, it appears that Indonesia are still having forest fires, and their neighbours will probably suffer another round of bad hazy weather.
According to�a report by China Press, the Indonesian authorities have found nearly 70 forest fires in the country, signaling a very troubling days ahead. Satellite has shown that more than half of these fires happened in Kalimantan, but more fires are also found in Riau and Sumatera areas.
Malaysia (and the rest of South East Asia, including Indonesia) suffered one of the worst hazy weather in 2015. Image from TodayOnline
The South East Asean region has experienced one of the worst haze last year, after the El-nino phenomenon worsened the commonly occurring�forest fires in Indonesia. Most of these fires are�deliberately started by irresponsible farmers as a cheap way of clearing forests for farming. The global community has largely criticised Indonesia for allowing the fire to happen, but despite global pressure, the forest burning continued year-after-year.
Authorities has claimed that they have done everything they could to slow the fire, but if the farmers continue their forest-burning activities, there�s nothing much they can do to stop these events from occurring again.
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BycinnaboyPosted on�February 28, 2016Although the region is experiencing rainy weather, it appears that Indonesia are still having forest fires, and their neighbours will probably suffer another round of bad hazy weather.
IMAGE FROM REUTERS3.1KSHARES����������Although the region is experiencing rainy weather, it appears that Indonesia are still having forest fires, and their neighbours will probably suffer another round of bad hazy weather.
According to�a report by China Press, the Indonesian authorities have found nearly 70 forest fires in the country, signaling a very troubling days ahead. Satellite has shown that more than half of these fires happened in Kalimantan, but more fires are also found in Riau and Sumatera areas.
Malaysia (and the rest of South East Asia, including Indonesia) suffered one of the worst hazy weather in 2015. Image from TodayOnline
The South East Asean region has experienced one of the worst haze last year, after the El-nino phenomenon worsened the commonly occurring�forest fires in Indonesia. Most of these fires are�deliberately started by irresponsible farmers as a cheap way of clearing forests for farming. The global community has largely criticised Indonesia for allowing the fire to happen, but despite global pressure, the forest burning continued year-after-year.
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Fwah hoarders can go stock up on N95.
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RadX does business spike up during haze period? Need to order more wood?
Those indo people never get into their head not to burn? Still continue their burning activity every year although govt asked them not to burn!�
Once the north wind gone, brace yourself!
Usually north wind should gone somewhere on the 2nd half of the year, right?
Edited by 13177, 02 March 2016 - 09:51 AM.
Usually north wind should gone somewhere on the 2nd half of the year, right?
Starts in November
Ends in March /April
Starts in NovemberYou mean the north wind ends in mar/apr? Then wht starts in nov?
You mean the north wind ends in mar/apr? Then wht starts in nov?
Start nov end March
North wind lor
Start nov end MarchOMG, it means the haze will arrive here from apr! 8 months of hazy weather! Thought usually haze will only come around aug?
March. April and May are usually very hot months. � Hopefully the haze dun blow towards our directions. �
OMG, it means the haze will arrive here from apr! 8 months of hazy weather! Thought usually haze will only come around aug?
End around October
April and September is the transition between north and south wind
Usually this Perioid is no wind one
August is haze toughest month because south wind is at its peak
The south wind starts around may
End around October
April and September is the transition between north and south wind
Usually this Perioid is no wind one
August is haze toughest month because south wind is at its peakLooks like mar would be our last month of clear and haze free month. So from Apr to nov, haze might come and go.
The south wind starts around may
End around October
April and September is the transition between north and south wind
Usually this Perioid is no wind one
August is haze toughest month because south wind is at its peakWow! you
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The south wind starts around may
End around October
April and September is the transition between north and south wind
Usually this Perioid is no wind one
August is haze toughest month because south wind is at its peak�
You refer to the North East Monsoon which occurs generally from Nov to March and the South West Monsoon which occurs generally from April to October.
The south wind starts around may
End around October
April and September is the transition between north and south wind
Usually this Perioid is no wind one
August is haze toughest month because south wind is at its peak
The south wind starts around may
End around October
April and September is the transition between north and south wind
Usually this Perioid is no wind one
August is haze toughest month because south wind is at its peak�
Bro, today busy?
You refer to the North East Monsoon which occurs generally from Nov to March and the South West Monsoon which occurs generally from April to October.
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No lah no lahDidnt know your geography so good one.
I just like to learn interesting stuff like these
Today got to run outsideBro, today busy?
Damn busy man
Boss say I got to do means got to do lor
No lah no lahWow! you
I just interested to learn about the these stuff
Prepare for the haze if wind direction change.
http://www.channelne...html?cid=twtcnaOMG! Haze should starts early this year here!
The haze seems to be back.... got burning smell in the sky. East side
The haze seems to be back.... got burning smell in the sky. East side
The haze seems to be back.... got burning smell in the sky. East side
Haze is back? So early? Now only Mar le.
Haze is back? So early? Now only Mar le.
Ur side any burning smell?
Ur side any burning smell?
I was at west side today, no smell at all le.
The haze seems to be back.... got burning smell in the sky. East side
Looks like we would not enjoy clear sky and air for long liao.
The haze seems to be back.... got burning smell in the sky. East side
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Central Singapore also have...
Suddenly strong smell of haze at NE here, jiat lat!
Woke up around 3am to pee... The burning smell was real bad I had to close all the windows and turn the ac on before going back to bed
Hopefully the afternoon rain could clear up the air.
Woke up around 3am to pee... The burning smell was real bad I had to close all the windows and turn the ac on before going back to bed
Haze really come back already?
I can smell haze this morning ... ��
Smoky smell in the air, despite the strong breeze here in the East. Started about 7pm.
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Looks like must faster go buy air purifier before haze officially come back! If not air purifier sold out again.
This year seem quite early
I saw some apparent haze in the morning about 7:30~8:30, air got bad smell. It went away shortly.
There is reportedly over 200 hectares already being burnt.
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I can't believe that that is due to smallholders.
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It must be multinationals companies doing it.
I wonder if Singapore companies or Indonesian companies owned or run by Singaporeans are involved.
I know what I think.
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I also wonder if these areas of forest being burnt supposedly accidentally are areas that have not yet been logged or if they are areas which have already been logged out and have no value for logging companies.
Seems like many experience haze for the past few days, but there is no report from the NEA side le?
There is reportedly over 200 hectares already being burnt.
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I can't believe that that is due to smallholders.
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It must be multinationals companies doing it.
I wonder if Singapore companies or Indonesian companies owned or run by Singaporeans are involved.
I know what I think.
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I also wonder if these areas of forest being burnt supposedly accidentally are areas that have not yet been logged or if they are areas which have already been logged out and have no value for logging companies.
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200 hectares is a tiny land in indonesia..
200 hectares is a tiny land in indonesia..
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Of course it is, but the burning season hasn't started, and you have to start somewhere.
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But the burning of 200hectares will produce a hell of a lot of haze if the wind is blowing in your direction.
If psi reading have not flash on tv, it means haze still not seriously back yet.
Edited by 13177, 16 March 2016 - 09:46 PM.
Smoky smell in the air, despite the strong breeze here in the East. Started about 7pm.
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was smelling it even at the 2nd link malaysian side last night when i wind down windows to show passport.
not just us.. boleh brothers aren't having it easy either.�
Haze is not here yet.
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But the weather is super hot. Had be forecast for max 35deg for this few days.
But I feel like it is much higher.
Maybe as usual, if the weather man forecast above 35deg, SAF have to cancel some training.
Haze is not here yet.
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But the weather is super hot. Had be forecast for max 35deg for this few days.
But I feel like it is much higher.
Maybe as usual, if the weather man forecast above 35deg, SAF have to cancel some training.
If haze is here and plus the super hot weather, then everyday would be a bad day.
I think got slight haze. I cant see Batam from my office window liao and CBD looks a bit blur.
I think got slight haze. I cant see Batam from my office window liao and CBD looks a bit blur.
Lol, you are always the gauge if the haze condition�is good or bad?! If cant see batam from your office window, then no good liao.
You see the view from my office now :
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Hazy today and started getting alerts alYesterday is hazy. Seems like haze is coming back slowly.
Laos combodia and Vietnam burning
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Agricultural Fires Cover Most of Indochina (12 Feb 2016)NASA's Suomi NPP satellite collected this natural-color image using the VIIRS (Visible Infrared Imaging Radiometer Suite) instrument on February 08, 2016 which detected hundreds of fires burning in various regions of Indochina. The location, widespread nature, and number of fires suggest that these fires were deliberately set to manage land. Farmers often use fire to return nutrients to the soil and to clear the ground of unwanted plants.
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I is see nea the satellite page one
Bro, u are the ???? of MCF :)
Bro, u are the 诸��� of MCF :)
I just make the loudest noise only
Even my wife say so
Cambodia�s exports of crude palm oil have increased, though the price has declined in line with falling global prices, according to an official and a producer.
�The Kingdom exported 17,380 tons of crude palm oil in 2015, compared with 12,211 tons the previous year, an increase of 42.3 percent, according to a report from the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries.
�Malaysia imported the biggest amount of crude palm oil from the Kingdom. Cambodia exported 12,674 tons to Malaysia, 1,100 tons to China and 2,000 tons to Thailand, the report said. �
�http://www.khmertime...ports-increase/
Cambodia�s exports of crude palm oil have increased, though the price has declined in line with falling global prices, according to an official and a producer.
The Kingdom exported 17,380 tons of crude palm oil in 2015, compared with 12,211 tons the previous year, an increase of 42.3 percent, according to a report from the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries.
Malaysia imported the biggest amount of crude palm oil from the Kingdom. Cambodia exported 12,674 tons to Malaysia, 1,100 tons to China and 2,000 tons to Thailand, the report said.
http://www.khmertime...ports-increase/
Moi truck love palm oil
But more expensive than diesel :(
Singapore jia lat liao when Cambodia and Laos also join indonesia to burn forest.
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NE winds from nov to march we get the haze from them, and SW wind for the rest of the year, we get it from indonesia.
Singapore jia lat liao when Cambodia and Laos also join indonesia to burn forest.
NE winds from nov to march we get the haze from them, and SW wind for the rest of the year, we get it from indonesia.
Hope Cambodia and Laos dun use the same you-shd-be-grateful-for-11-months-of-clean-air yada-yadaXiaomi really make everything.
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From handphone to power bank to air purifier to car camera...
So far no issues. Filters up to PM2.5. Happy with that.
Checking the specs again, the following is copied from their website :
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"It filters out over 99% of particles sized 0.3?m and larger, using a H11-grade high density HEPA filter from Japanese manufacturer Toray."
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Of course the filtration standards are�based on�the fact that original filters are used. For this price, I think it's a great buy.
Share good 'kang tao' with everyone.
Xiaomi air purifier now selling in Singapore. Pretty good filtration for the price paid. Xiaomi website advertise for $299. Authorised agent NTUC Fairprice selling for $279, promotion till end of March. Local units, local warranty.
Should be able to get from the larger Fairprice outlets. Bought mine at Fairprice Xtra.
Is filter washable or any issue in finding replacements? TIA.
Is filter washable or any issue in finding replacements? TIA.
Filter is not washable. HEPA filters are normally fibreglass based, therefore not washable.
As of now, Fairprice has not brought in the filter. However, salesman said agent will be bringing it in at some point. You can also buy it online.
Haze is back ... must be due to last nite MU
Haze is back? Where?
Haze is back? Where?
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earlier in the afternoon .... central area.�
Haze is back? Where?
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Afternoon ... the air smell of burning ....
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Sh*t ... still recovering from heaty-ness, and the haze is back ...�
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Hope bros here drink more water in the coming days ...
could it be blown over from the north?
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There's light acrid smell here n the East. Feeling some discomfort in the throat. Thought it was due to Ching Ming festivities but doesn't smell like burning joss sticks/prayer offerings though.
could it be blown over from the north?
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wah! big business in Myanmar!
Afternoon ... the air smell of burning ....
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Sh*t ... still recovering from heaty-ness, and the haze is back ...�
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Hope bros here drink more water in the coming days ...
Hazy in the sky? Could be due to Qing Ming burning? My throat also not very good, on and off discomfort. If the haze really come back, think�i suffer liao.
The number from NEA also show that PSI and PM2.5 is going up.
3hr PSI already at 80.Attached Thumbnails
Today the sky seems getting more hazy and i can actually smell it when get out of aircon environment.
The number from NEA also show that PSI and PM2.5 is going up.
3hr PSI already at 80.�
I smell it when I left office around 6.15pm ... very bad ...
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Time to stay indoors and bring out the air purifier ... and get ready for masks for the kids ...
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Sian... becoming annual event liao ...
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I smell it when I left office around 6.15pm ... very bad ...
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Time to stay indoors and bring out the air purifier ... and get ready for masks for the kids ...
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Sian... becoming annual event liao ...
Sian, if haze come back now, does it mean we have to endure it until Nov?
Stay hydrated folks.
We have CCB neighbours. Take turns to burn here burn there.
We have CCB neighbours. Take turns to burn here burn there.
Die cork stand.
And they very clever, north east monsoon Malaysia, Thailand Myanmar burn, south west monsoon indo burn. Singapore in the centre, sheltered from almost all natural disaster also no place to hide.
Die cork stand.�
LLSH
Lan Lan Smell Haze
is Foreign Ministar going to fly over and bang table ?�
is Foreign Ministar going to fly over and bang table ?�
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Got use meh?!
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Better take care of our ownselves ... drink more water...
Got use meh?!
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Better take care of our ownselves ... drink more water...
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yes, and squeeze a bit of lemon into the water.�
is Foreign Ministar going to fly over and bang table ?
I thought not bang table but to hand over a fat envelope?![[sly]](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/blogger_img_proxy/AEn0k_tTsVWdSCOqbjWyE9WXQnEqCE48crMVZMrrzWn8sPlUS2pg9-ckJgthLcQOXQ0VymVu0H6JJKrTsZOIYuQYMY9M3c29sAheWKMPKxNyXbNndcyK9I_KmuO9aVLsMyj3Q8Y-3Es=s0-d)
I thought not bang table but to hand over a fat envelope?
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in front of media bang table, post strongly worded FB message etc act tough to look like he is truly deserving of the salary.
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below table is the envelope ... �
in front of media bang table, post strongly worded FB message etc act tough to look like he is truly deserving of the salary.
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below table is the envelope ... �
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No lah that will only provoke them. Act helpful. Offer assistance, offer hairycopter, offer manpower. Act concern,"bro, I can see from my satellite your country is on fire, you know?". "I gib chew my saterite link, K?". "You monitor everyday, can?"
in front of media bang table, post strongly worded FB message etc act tough to look like he is truly deserving of the salary.
below table is the envelope ...
.No lah that will only provoke them. Act helpful. Offer assistance, offer hairycopter, offer manpower. Act concern,"bro, I can see from my satellite your country is on fire, you know?". "I gib chew my saterite link, K?". "You monitor everyday, can?"
No lah that will only provoke them. Act helpful. Offer assistance, offer hairycopter, offer manpower. Act concern,"bro, I can see from my satellite your country is on fire, you know?". "I gib chew my saterite link, K?". "You monitor everyday, can?"
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yeah, that's politics ... �
Both of you can becum ministars leow
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Thank you, but i humbly decline the offer ... cos I cannot even be MP ... �
No lah that will only provoke them. Act helpful. Offer assistance, offer hairycopter, offer manpower. Act concern,"bro, I can see from my satellite your country is on fire, you know?". "I gib chew my saterite link, K?". "You monitor everyday, can?"
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wait they say:
Bro, pai she pai she, now ching ming, I sio gim zua
And they very clever, north east monsoon Malaysia, Thailand Myanmar burn, south west monsoon indo burn. Singapore in the centre, sheltered from almost all natural disaster also no place to hide.
Die cork stand.Very bad, now not only indo burn, Malaysia, Thailand and Myanmar also burn? Then we only have 2-3 months of clean air liao.
Got use meh?!
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Better take care of our ownselves ... drink more water...
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Water running low in reservoir...choking haze plus water rationing coming soon.
Water running low in reservoir...choking haze plus water rationing coming soon.
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don't worry ... we got newater �
wait they say:
Bro, pai she pai she, now ching ming, I sio gim zua
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Hahaha....so many kim zua.
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"Bro, you burning part of the country to your ancestor? I salute you."
yeah, that's politics ... �
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Thank you, but i humbly decline the offer ... cos I cannot even be MP ... �
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Too many skeletons in the closet???
Too many skeletons in the closet???
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wait I cannot resist women's wing ... there very the happening one ... �
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Water running low in reservoir...choking haze plus water rationing coming soon.
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No need chut pattern lah ... wait for another 5 years near ge, then chut pattern
Too many skeletons in the closet???
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in the closet got many many blue colour blueray
Checking the specs again, the following is copied from their website :
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"It filters out over 99% of particles sized 0.3?m and larger, using a H11-grade high density HEPA filter from Japanese manufacturer Toray."
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Of course the filtration standards are�based on�the fact that original filters are used. For this price, I think it's a great buy.
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Xiaomi AP is bit noisy.
Nothing wrong with the filtration standards.
But when u can buy the Samsung/LG equivalent superior product on qoo10 for less than the Xiaomi.
Then there's really not much point to getting the xiaomi.�
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The HEPA filter is made in china lah. Just that maybe under this Toray factory lol.
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Got chow-tar smell last night. Phuck the Indons!!
Got chow-tar smell last night. Phuck the Indons!!
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not indons
http://www.haze.gov....atellite-images
Are these forest fires from the heatwave or deliberate slash and burn?
yes, and squeeze a bit of lemon into the water.�
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One of the first things i do every morning after waking up�is to squeeze a lemon into a cup of water and take my first drink of lemon water before doing anything else.
not indons
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You cannot mock the Indons for not able to coordinate their slash/burn problem......
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They seem to coordinate really well with Vietnam/Cambodia to make sure our 9 months of Haze-free days are shortened to 6 months.
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With up and coming newly liberated Myanmar....maybe they will take another 3 months of the year from 2017.
One of the first things i do every morning after waking up�is to squeeze a lemon into a cup of water and take my first drink of lemon water before doing anything else.
Drink lemon everyday will it be overdose of lemon?
Drink lemon everyday will it be overdose of lemon?
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Sorry. One slice of lemon and not the whole fruit.
not indons
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When transitting Hanoi last year I was sure there was haze there.� That was in October.
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Off to HCMC on Friday for 4 nights.
Any haze shouldn't bother us too much as we'll be in the city and it won't effect visibility there although it may well be around.
http://www.straitsti...ll-and-haze-nea
Yesterday haza is own self burn own self , cannot blame anyone.
http://www.straitsti...ll-and-haze-neaSg also started to burn like the rest ar?
So LL lor.
Our govvt's style is always use money to solve problem whether its internal or external.....lollll
If you do a thesis on our governence......money talk will dominate the report.....haha
I thought not bang table but to hand over a fat envelope?
Edited by Hiphiphoray, 30 March 2016 - 02:26 PM.
Yesterday haza is own self burn own self , cannot blame anyone.
http://www.straitsti...ll-and-haze-nea�
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Cannot beat them join them?
Very bad haze here now looking west from Clementi.
Nearly as bad as October November last year.
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on mobile now, can't attach the pic.
the aqi is showing 147 in west singapore, 173 in north...
But donno why so bad leh
The nea map like showing ok ok leh
on mobile now, can't attach the pic.
the aqi is showing 147 in west singapore, 173 in north...
Is the reading refer to psi? If psi read 147-173, if it is� indo haze we are already seeing a super hazy grey sky liao! But overall the sky is consider clear now.
Is the reading refer to psi? If psi read 147-173, if it is� indo haze we are already seeing a super hazy grey sky liao! But overall the sky is consider clear now.
Still blowing NE wind lah.
Cannot be Indo...
Still blowing NE wind lah.
Cannot be Indo...
If indo haze, we be smelling burning and choking�smell in the air with super dim sky. So i guess not indo haze for the past week.
Still blowing NE wind lah.
Cannot be Indo...
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Thai on Fire !�
Thai on Fire !
Not "Thai on fire" lah. Someone had some really spicy food there yesterday, that's all.
171 now in the south according to:
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The smell was quite bad when i went out of my clinic earlier. But AQI was 71 here.
And this afternoon smoke smell 'fresh' at Tampines and SK, like burning from not far away.Attached Thumbnails
Edited by Tohto, 31 March 2016 - 05:56 PM.
Wind direction does not show blow in any smoke..
And this afternoon smoke smell 'fresh' at Tampines and SK, like burning from not far away.�
that's the problem with the map
with so many fires, no smoke meh?
surely at the source of the fire, got smoke?
satellite cannot detect smoke?�
that's why take that picture with pinch of salt
The smell was quite bad when i went out of my clinic earlier. But AQI was 71 here.
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Yup. Its quite bad. After work, when I stepped out of my home can smell the smoky smell.�
From aqi, i note that pm10 is usually 1/2 of 2.5. But now is 1/3. Maybe coz far away at viet area. So visibility not too bad, smell strong due to 2.5 nonetheless
The smell was quite bad when i went out of my clinic earlier. But AQI was 71 here.
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Sometimes, it's hard to rely on the AQI.
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Not that it is not accurate but rather it is historical and smoke tend to be "transient" (quoting NEA).
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Only good thing is you know the air quality is not so healthy generally so mask on.
Not taking chances... bought a new Air Purifier !
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Rather breathe in flesher air ... than suffocate under the smoke by our neighbors ...
Yup. Its quite bad. After work, when I stepped out of my home can smell the smoky smell.�
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Zzzz...very strong smoky smell....
Not taking chances... bought a new Air Purifier !
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Rather breathe in flesher air ... than suffocate under the smoke by our neighbors ...
Havent go buy air purifier yet! Don't know now go buy still have stock or not?
Buy now should still have stock la. Don't wait until NEA declares haze situation. By then, too late liao.
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Havent go buy air purifier yet! Don't know now go buy still have stock or not?
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What are you doing at 3:30am
Sleepwalking
TGIF, yay!
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Somebody sent out this to me - it was a prank for April fool - initially it scared me really badly
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I think anyone using a garmen website to play prank even though is April fool day is looking for trouble.
I think anyone using a garmen website to play prank even though is April fool day is looking for trouble.
I would think so too - but the time n effort it must have taken him or her to do it - I cannot even imagine or must have been some copy cat thing too - I even silly me - went out of my place to see the outdoors too as the weather has been quite unkind for the last 8 days no rain
is it me or is extra hot today?
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but this year's Qingming probably will not have a single drop of rain
is it me or is extra hot today?
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but this year's Qingming probably will not have a single drop of rain
Is super hot.
Mar already the hottest month for the past 100 yrs.
Don't think it will rain for qingming.
Lucky this afternoon air quality look/smell OK.
hope we won't break the highest temp record this year
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too hot to bear
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is it me or is extra hot today?
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but this year's Qingming probably will not have a single drop of rain
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Not only you... I am hot and super hot too
Arrrggg..... perspire like mad .... going to have 2nd shower soon ...
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Oh ya, do drink more water :)
Finally, rain is here. Punggol here
Finally, rain is here. Punggol here
3mins rain at Sent Kang. Useless.
No rain here in Marine Parade leh ... can see the grasses turning brown ....
Did smell some haziness last night... so, turned on air purifier to go sleep ... and oh boy, slept well� :))
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If no rain, haze comes, and shortage of water... will be double blow for us ....
Cool :) and haze away :))
Finally raining here in Marine Parade :))
Cool :) and haze away :))�
How long did it rain for? TPY also rained. But 3-5min only...
How long did it rain for? TPY also rained. But 3-5min only...
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Rained for about 15-20 mins ...
Now, the greens are back in the grasses .. and the birds are singing :))
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Hope the haze won't come back so soon ... and the weather can be a bit cooler for this week ..
Rained for about 15-20 mins ...
Now, the greens are back in the grasses .. and the birds are singing :))
Hope the haze won't come back so soon ... and the weather can be a bit cooler for this week ..
today in orchard...
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saw lion dance competition thingy (like movie lion men) at cathey
and jack neo mark leewith the rest actors/esses promoting "long long time ago 2) outside plaza sg
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no rain
only haiz....so hot
How long did it rain for? TPY also rained. But 3-5min only...
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TPY HOT property ... only can rain 5min max�
Stay indoor, stay in office... to experience the aircon (free)...
Cannot dahan the heat ...
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Luckily didn't smell any haze ... ah choi !
Kanasai,�i got window behind my desk. Even office aircon also struggling to cool my room down.
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Think I need to come to work in board shorts, t-shirt and flip-flops liao. And must go commando, or else sweaty and sticky.
Kanasai,�i got window behind my desk. Even office aircon also struggling to cool my room down.
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Think I need to come to work in board shorts, t-shirt and flip-flops liao. And must go commando, or else sweaty and sticky.
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Thatz what my angmo managers do. Where bermuda, slippers and t-shirt to work. Come office change and work. They have a purpose built wardrobe for their office shirts. They all buay tahan SG weather.
Luckily recent super hot weather doesn't comes with the haze, if not even suffer more.
Raining now :))
Shiok :))
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But don't flood can� liao
Zhun zhun�I kpkb now heavy rain here.
Raining now :))
Shiok :))
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But don't flood can� liao
Where raining?
http://aqicn.org/city/singapore/west/#
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curry nah......wake up open room door already can smell chao da bee liao......
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all the way to work the smell getting stronger, outside also hazy.....psi only this level ??
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i stay and work in the west....
Didn't smell in Bukit Merah area ....
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Hopefully don't smell anything throughout the day and weekend ...
Now winds are blowing towards Jakarta. I wish the Indonesians will start burning now.
63 at West side from NEA... I don't believe... Wake up already damn hazy.
My wife just called to say hazy in eastern side...
Ok, told her ON the air purifier ....
SOP in place� !
The south here looks same as the past few days. Not hazy IMO.
Today sky is hazy! Is indo haze official come back liao?
Today sky is hazy! Is indo haze official come back liao?
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Maybe smoke from all the artillery shells�used in�the continuous salvos between Lee�vs�ST�vs Lee? �
Maybe smoke from all the artillery shells�used in�the continuous salvos between Lee�vs�ST�vs Lee? �
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Thought cease fire liao?!
So, should have no haze le lah :)
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Look at the hot spot in Thailand, Laos and Cambodia...
Huh ?? Really ?? Cannot believe so many fires up North ???
Look at the hot spot in Thailand, Laos and Cambodia...
wow.
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but the winds are blowing towards the north currently right?
Looks like if the wind change direction and blow towards us, we are going to have�quite a�jialat haze this year as compared with last year,�since now not only indo would be burning.
Look at the hot spot in Thailand, Laos and Cambodia...
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rooks like
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nea picture: shit just got real!!!
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http://www.haze.gov....atellite-images
hahahaha, i almost burst out laughing when i saw this
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http://www.channelne...ar/2698558.html
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SINGAPORE: There is "zero chance" that the region will experience the same bout of haze this year as it did in 2015, according to the Head of the Peatland Restoration Agency in Indonesia, Mr Nazir Foead.
This is due to the determination from the government, palm oil and pulp and paper companies, and the community to make sure that steps are taken to ensure that fires do not break out on peatlands, added Mr Nazir, who was speaking at the third Sustainable World Resources dialogue on Friday (Apr 15).�
The Peatland Restoration Agency was set up in January this year by Indonesian President Joko Widodo to restore about 2 million hectares of peatland that have been damaged by fires.
It is a move by the Indonesian government to prevent fires from happening, which is a shift from a focus on mitigation efforts in the past.
The agency is now in the process of creating more detailed maps to complement the�One Map initiative. This will be completed in the next two to three months.
It is also urging companies to play their part in restoring peatlands, which is something touched on by Singapore's Environment and Water Resources Minister Masagos Zulkifli at the same event.
"Agro-forestry companies should take full responsibility for fire prevention and mitigation in their concessions. There must not be a repeat, for example, of last year's fires... Companies should invest in efforts to rehabilitate degraded and fire-prone peatlands. Companies must ensure that sustainable policies and practices don't stop with them," said Mr Masagos.
Restoration involves rewetting the carbon-rich peatlands, which burn easily when dry. The agency wants to create dams and canals to increase the water level in peatlands. It will also identify other types of crops besides palm oil that can grow well on peatlands, like the sago plant.
Mr Nazir added the agency is in talks with the Singapore Environment Council (SEC), to consider including companies' efforts in peatland restoration as a criteria in issuing the Singapore Green Label certification.�
"SEC has just announced that it is now taking it further and working on a new category for products with pulp and paper, which will include in its criteria the requirement for peatland management and fire prevention standards. When fully developed, I believe this standard will be the most holistic certification standard for pulp and paper in the world," said Mr Masagos.�
- CNA/dl
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They mean "zero chance" that this year would not have indo haze?
� Or they mean��"zero chance" that indo would not burn as usual this year?
Edited by 13177, 15 April 2016 - 01:58 PM.
When we were flying up to Ho Chi Min City recently just north of Sedili and south of Mersing you could see 2 or 3 fires and the smoke was all travelling in the direction of Singapore.
I'd guess the smoke was below 1000 feet maybe below 500 ft so I'm not sure why that hot spot map above shows wind direction at 2500ft.
They mean "zero chance" that this year would not have indo haze?
After reading the words 'zero chance', rest of article to me was just blah blah blah ..........
To me, the statement "'zero chance' it won't be the same as 2015 " means that it will be worse than last yearA director of an Indonesian company suspected of contributing to last year's haze did not turn up for an interview with the authorities here, even though he was served with a legal notice to attend it when he was in Singapore.
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But the director, who has since left Singapore, can be detained if he tries to enter Singapore again.
The National Environment Agency (NEA) said yesterday that it has obtained a court warrant against the director to secure his attendance when he enters Singapore. It did not name him or his company, which is believed to have started fires or let its concessions burn.
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http://www.straitsti...-firms-director
NEA gets court warrant against haze-linked firm's director
A director of an Indonesian company suspected of contributing to last year's haze did not turn up for an interview with the authorities here, even though he was served with a legal notice to attend it when he was in Singapore.
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But the director, who has since left Singapore, can be detained if he tries to enter Singapore again.
The National Environment Agency (NEA) said yesterday that it has obtained a court warrant against the director to secure his attendance when he enters Singapore. It did not name him or his company, which is believed to have started fires or let its concessions burn.
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http://www.straitsti...-firms-director
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cheong gong the guy money, property, cars, toys, toilet bowl
he sure turn up
NEA gets court warrant against haze-linked firm's director
A director of an Indonesian company suspected of contributing to last year's haze did not turn up for an interview with the authorities here, even though he was served with a legal notice to attend it when he was in Singapore.
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But the director, who has since left Singapore, can be detained if he tries to enter Singapore again.
The National Environment Agency (NEA) said yesterday that it has obtained a court warrant against the director to secure his attendance when he enters Singapore. It did not name him or his company, which is believed to have started fires or let its concessions burn.
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http://www.straitsti...-firms-director
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CB lah. I only see NEA and the minister's name.
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What is the firm's and the director's name?
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Say like never say like that....
CB lah. I only see NEA and the minister's name.
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What is the firm's and the director's name?
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Say like never say like that....
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http://www.straitsti...662#xtor=CS1-10
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"Mr Arrmanatha reiterated that the Indonesian government is not in favour of the law."
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The gall of these people - to tell us that they are not in favour of �our laws.
http://www.straitsti...662#xtor=CS1-10
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"Mr Arrmanatha reiterated that the Indonesian government is not in favour of the law."
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The gall of these people - to tell us that they are not in favour of �our laws.
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He does not have to like our law, just abide by it whenever stepping onto this little red dot will do. Same thing, our folks are required to keep quiet when going thru' Batam customs.
http://www.straitsti...662#xtor=CS1-10
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"Mr Arrmanatha reiterated that the Indonesian government is not in favour of the law."
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The gall of these people - to tell us that they are not in favour of �our laws.
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Pls lah Mr�Arrmanatha, if your colleague did his job in the first place, we won't be cleaning your shit.
Follow up outcome of NEA court warrant action?
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All procedures concerning planned bilateral collaborations in environment and forestry matters with Singapore�have reportedly been put on hold.Indonesia reviewing cooperation with Singapore in environment, forestry matters: Reporthttp://www.channelne...ng/2786818.html
He does not have to like our law, just abide by it whenever stepping onto this little red dot will do. Same thing, our folks are required to keep quiet when going thru' Batam customs.
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Maybe� he still have the thinking that SG is another island�belongs to Indonesia ....
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This morning the sky seems a bit hazy?!
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Indonesia's largest pulp and paper firm is selling its vacant premises in Pioneer Road at an indicative value of above $40 million.
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The site was put up for auction in 2007 by the Inland Revenue Authority of Singapore after Asia Pulp and Paper (APP) failed to pay more than $1.8 million in property taxes.
But the property was withdrawn from auction after the company settled the tax bill.
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http://www.straitsti...in-pioneer-road
big leech conglomerate also run property tax ... integrity issue here ...�
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APP seeks buyer for factory site in Pioneer Road
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Indonesia's largest pulp and paper firm is selling its vacant premises in Pioneer Road at an indicative value of above $40 million.
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The site was put up for auction in 2007 by the Inland Revenue Authority of Singapore after Asia Pulp and Paper (APP) failed to pay more than $1.8 million in property taxes.
But the property was withdrawn from auction after the company settled the tax bill.
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http://www.straitsti...in-pioneer-road
big leech conglomerate also run property tax ... integrity issue here ...�
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Wow, u scare me leh. Today weather very clear. Can see Batam island from my office.
Wow, u scare me leh. Today weather very clear. Can see Batam island from my office.
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heh heh
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heh heh
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Important to ???? since haze confirm will come de. I have already bought my air purfier and�stock up my masks�liao, and hopefully can tide me over this year haze season. Lol.
Edited by 13177, 03 June 2016 - 09:43 AM.
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Thanks for the info :)
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Have already stock up on the masks as well as bought air purifier liao :)
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Singapore is 1 of the biggest producer of N95 mask. Why have to go Amazon?
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Juz go qoo10.com.
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La Nina is coming.� Very low chance of haze this year.
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For long hour usage, i find Air+ more comfortable.� But need to buy 2 fan.� Each fan can only last 2 hrs.
Sure low chance of haze this year?
Sure low chance of haze this year?
It was over 400 points this time 3yrs ago.
JAKARTA �Indonesia�s Peatland Restoration Agency (BRG) has hit out at Asia Pulp and Paper (APP), whose products were pulled off the shelves from supermarkets in Singapore over alleged links to firms responsible for forest fires that caused the haze, saying that the company was being �uncooperative� in providing data as part of BRG�s peatland restoration efforts.
Mr Nazir Foead, who heads BRG, said many firms have submitted data that includes concession maps of their holdings. But APP, one of the world�s largest pulp and paper companies, has yet to do so, he said. �Many companies submitted their data, but one company has been uncooperative and appears to not be serious. I�ll just disclose the name so it is aware of its faults. It�s APP,� he was quoted as saying by Jakarta Post.
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http://www.todayonli...oration-efforts
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I would think so.
It was over 400 points this time 3yrs ago.But last year haze also came in�around aug, and worsen over the months until dec lo. So still too early to tell if there is low chance of�haze or not?
APP refuse to pay "membership fees" to the BRG issit?
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APP �uncooperative� in peatland restoration efforts
JAKARTA �Indonesia�s Peatland Restoration Agency (BRG) has hit out at Asia Pulp and Paper (APP), whose products were pulled off the shelves from supermarkets in Singapore over alleged links to firms responsible for forest fires that caused the haze, saying that the company was being �uncooperative� in providing data as part of BRG�s peatland restoration efforts.
Mr Nazir Foead, who heads BRG, said many firms have submitted data that includes concession maps of their holdings. But APP, one of the world�s largest pulp and paper companies, has yet to do so, he said. �Many companies submitted their data, but one company has been uncooperative and appears to not be serious. I�ll just disclose the name so it is aware of its faults. It�s APP,� he was quoted as saying by Jakarta Post.
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http://www.todayonli...oration-efforts
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The pulp and paper giant says that it submitted required data to the Environment and Forestry Ministry on May 11, but Indonesia's Peatland Restoration Agency says it has "undeniable evidence that the chronology... constitutes a public lie"......
http://www.channelne...cy/2861872.html
Indonesia will not allow its citizens to be prosecuted under Singapore laws: VP Kalla
http://www.channelne...ow/2866306.html
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Indonesia will not allow its citizens to be prosecuted under Singapore laws: VP Kalla
http://www.channelne...ow/2866306.html�
CCB indon
Indonesia's environment minister lashed out Monday at Singapore for failing to show "respect" after the city-state tried to question the director of an Indonesian company over last year's haze outbreak.
It was the latest row between the neighbours over the smog-belching Indonesian forest fires that choked Singapore, Malaysia and other parts of the region with acrid smog for weeks.
The blazes are an annual occurrence during the dry season as land is cleared using slash-and-burn methods but they were the worst for some time in 2015, with Singapore particularly angered at what it said was Jakarta's failure to take action.
Tempers frayed again after Singapore last month tried to call in the director of an Indonesian company suspected of being linked to the haze for questioning when the individual was in the city-state, Singaporean media reported.
Jakarta is furious at what it sees as a violation of its sovereignty, and Environment Minister Siti Nurbaya Bakar stepped up the angry rhetoric Monday.
"The most important principle is that cooperation is done with respect for each country's sovereignty," she told reporters in Jakarta.
"What has been done by Singapore, in my opinion, does not show their mutual respect to Indonesia."
Bakar said she was seeking a review of "of all issues of cooperation with Singapore concerning the environment and forestry".
She also pointed out that the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, a 10-member regional bloc that includes Indonesia and Singapore, had an agreement to deal with forest fires that was based on cooperation.
Her comments came after Indonesia's Vice President Jusuf Kalla insisted that Singapore cannot take legal action against Indonesian citizens.
The director of the firm called in by Singaporean authorities reportedly did not turn up for the interview despite being served with a legal notice and has since left the city-state. The individual or the firm were not named in the reports.
Singapore is seeking to take legal action under a 2014 law that allows the city-state to levy heavy fines on local or foreign companies that contribute to unhealthy levels of haze pollution in the city-state.
Singapore has also given notices to six Indonesian-based firms, asking them to explain what they are doing to put out fires on their land.
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Forest fires in Indonesia produced acrid smog that shrouded Singapore, Malaysia and other parts of the region for weeks in 2015 More
Indonesia's environment minister lashed out Monday at Singapore for failing to show "respect" after the city-state tried to question the director of an Indonesian company over last year's haze outbreak.
It was the latest row between the neighbours over the smog-belching Indonesian forest fires that choked Singapore, Malaysia and other parts of the region with acrid smog for weeks.
The blazes are an annual occurrence during the dry season as land is cleared using slash-and-burn methods but they were the worst for some time in 2015, with Singapore particularly angered at what it said was Jakarta's failure to take action.
Tempers frayed again after Singapore last month tried to call in the director of an Indonesian company suspected of being linked to the haze for questioning when the individual was in the city-state, Singaporean media reported.
Jakarta is furious at what it sees as a violation of its sovereignty, and Environment Minister Siti Nurbaya Bakar stepped up the angry rhetoric Monday.
"The most important principle is that cooperation is done with respect for each country's sovereignty," she told reporters in Jakarta.
"What has been done by Singapore, in my opinion, does not show their mutual respect to Indonesia."
Bakar said she was seeking a review of "of all issues of cooperation with Singapore concerning the environment and forestry".
She also pointed out that the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, a 10-member regional bloc that includes Indonesia and Singapore, had an agreement to deal with forest fires that was based on cooperation.
Her comments came after Indonesia's Vice President Jusuf Kalla insisted that Singapore cannot take legal action against Indonesian citizens.
The director of the firm called in by Singaporean authorities reportedly did not turn up for the interview despite being served with a legal notice and has since left the city-state. The individual or the firm were not named in the reports.
Singapore is seeking to take legal action under a 2014 law that allows the city-state to levy heavy fines on local or foreign companies that contribute to unhealthy levels of haze pollution in the city-state.
Singapore has also given notices to six Indonesian-based firms, asking them to explain what they are doing to put out fires on their land.
How much was she paid?
When your smoke affects your neighbours you are show great respect?
How much was she paid?
Obviously not enough to shut her mouth.
JAKARTA (AFP) - Singapore is refusing to back down in its pursuit of those responsible for haze-belching forest fires in South-east Asia last year, despite struggling to bring the perpetrators before the courts and drawing a sharp rebuke from neighbouring Indonesia.
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Forest fires are part of an annual dry-season problem in Indonesia, started illegally to quickly and cheaply clear land for cultivation - particularly for palm oil and pulpwood.
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But last year's haze outbreak was among the worst in memory, shrouding Malaysia, Singapore, and parts of Thailand in acrid smoke and forcing school closures as pollution reached hazardous levels and thousands fell sick across the region.
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Singapore has served notice to six Indonesian companies it believes may have cleared land by burning but could target others as investigations continue, according to Singapore's ambassador to Indonesia Anil Kumar Nayar.
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"We are going after, to put it starkly, the bad guys that are causing this problem," he told AFP in an interview last week.
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However, the city-state's efforts to punish Indonesian companies under its own anti-haze law have become a flashpoint with Jakarta.
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Singapore argues that international rules allow states to take action - even if harm is being caused by activities outside its jurisdiction - but Jakarta has questioned how Singapore could pursue Indonesian citizens for prosecution, especially in the absence of a ratified extradition treaty between the neighbours.
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The latest sabre-rattling came after Singapore issued a court warrant in May to detain a director of an Indonesian company linked to the haze while he was in the city-state.
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Afterwards, Indonesia's Environment Minister Siti Nurbaya Bakar said that she would be reviewing her ministry's cooperation with Singapore on environmental issues.
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"Singapore cannot step further into Indonesia's legal domain," Bakar told reporters in June. Her spokesman declined to comment further on the matter when contacted.
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Nayar reiterated that Singapore wasn't crossing any line pursuing these companies and was within its rights to enforce its law.
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"We are not doing something that is extraordinary. It is not targeting any country, or anybody's sovereignty," he said.
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The law threatens local and foreign firms with fines of up to S$100,000 for every day Singapore endures unhealthy haze pollution.
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So far just two of the companies have responded to the court order, Nayar said, without naming specific firms.
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Singapore has repeatedly asked Indonesia for details about companies - such as maps showing who owns what concessions - but says Jakarta has not provided any information.
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Singapore would "continue to press", Nayar said, but added the evidence needed to prosecute these companies could be found by other means.
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"We could go that way as well, but at the end of the day this is part of a legal process. We want to be working with the Indonesian government," he said.
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One of Indonesia's main arguments is that a regional approach to solving the haze crisis would be more effective than individual action.
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"They (Singapore) know our view on this, on how we can best address this issue of haze through the Asean mechanism," ministry spokesman Arrmanatha Nasir told AFP.
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The Association of Southeast Asian Nations has an agreement to create a haze-free region by 2020, though it took 14 years to be fully ratified.
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Nayar says regional progress on curbing haze has been slow.
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Fellow Asean member Malaysia, which also suffers during the haze outbreaks, has expressed interest in adopting its own law similar to Singapore's to pursue errant companies.
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Jakarta has promised tougher action in the wake of last year's haze disaster, which turned skies yellow in Indonesia's part of Borneo island and dealt the economy a US$16 billion blow.
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The government announced in May it would no longer grant new land for palm oil plantations, and established a new agency to restore millions of hectares of carbon-rich peatlands susceptible to fires.
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With the increase in hotspots, wind direction and dry weather recently. Look like the haze may arrive any time.
Now only Jul, if haze really come then we have to suffer even longer period of haze period liao! Cause usually haze should only come from Aug onwards.
Flight HAZE, arriving soon
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Some 300 fire-linked hot spots detected in Indonesia�A forest fire is seen burning from a helicopter belonging to the Indonesian National Board of Disaster Management in Pelalawan, Riau province, Sumatra island on June 13.PHOTO: REUTERSPUBLISHED1 HOUR AGO�Arlina Arshad�Indonesia�Correspondent In JakartaAlmost 300 hot spots were detected over Sumatra and Kalimantan yesterday that were due to forest and land fires, and the number is expected to increase in the coming dry months.
The figures were disclosed as news emerged of an interview given by the Singapore envoy in Jakarta, who said the Republic would continue to pursue those responsible for haze-belching forest fires in South-east Asia last year.
"We are going after, to put it starkly, the bad guys that are causing this problem," Mr Anil Kumar Nayar told the Agence France-Presse news agency last week. He said Singapore was not crossing any line in pursuing these companies and was within its rights to enforce its law.
"We are not doing something that is extraordinary. It is not targeting any country or anybody's sovereignty," he added.
His comments came amid tensions between Indonesia and Singapore over the latter's decision to take action against a director of an Indonesian firm linked to last year's regional haze, considered to be one of the worst in recent history.
��The crisis affected millions across South-east Asia and caused more than half a million Indonesians to suffer from severe respiratory illnesses. Errant pulp and paper firms have been blamed for the fires.
Satellites yesterday recorded 288 hot spots - 245 hot spots over Sumatra island and 43 over Kalimantan - Indonesia's National Disaster Management Agency spokesman Sutopo Purwo Nugroho said in a statement.
The figure is small compared with about 3,000 at the height of last year's crisis, but he warned that the "potential for fires will increase" in the drier months of July to September. "Dry conditions, scarcity of water and difficulty in accessing the locations will make it hard to douse the fires," he said.
Two helicopters and two air-tractor waterbombers were deployed to spray water from the air in Riau province, which had 26 hot spots. Troops, police and personnel from other agencies are controlling the blazes on the ground, he said. "Most of the hot spots are a result of intentional burning," he said. He did not say who were behind the fires but advised the community not to clear land by setting fires.
Last Friday, major palm oil companies said they have ditched a landmark "zero deforestation" pact, saying the government's recent efforts to strengthen its certification standards were sufficient.
The 2014 Indonesia Palm Oil Pledge, or Ipop, was hailed as one that would boost efforts to fight rampant deforestation, annual forest fires and choking haze.
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I hope our gov stands firm on this. N if need be, go to the international courts n sue. Not just 70% said so. Easily, 95% said so. Gogogo!!!
No use no use de,�no�way�it can change the haze situation. Very sad.
No use no use de, no way it can change the haze situation. Very sad.
Ours is up to 55 low, 56-155 elevated, 156-255 high, above 255 very high. The 'elevated' category looks wierd. It will mean that even w/o burning, we still get elevated levels. Over time, people will get used & numb to the elevated levels.
Elevated could b the most common psi reading...
Maybe thats why they re-word our local ratings. Instead of good, moderate, unhealthy, very unhealthy, hazardous...
Ours is up to 55 low, 56-155 elevated, 156-255 high, above 255 very high. The 'elevated' category looks wierd. It will mean that even w/o burning, we still get elevated levels. Over time, people will get used & numb to the elevated levels.
Elevated could b the most common psi reading...�
I only follow this:
http://aqicn.org/cit...gapore/central/
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0-50: Good
51-100: Moderate
101-150: Unhealthy for sensitive group
151-200: Unhealthy
201-300: Very unhealthy
>301: Hazardous
Just saying...
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Bro I thought it's usually after August? Now seems a bit early?
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Also, the haze usually comes with South-Western wind, I think the wind was still blowing from South-East yesterday. I don't feel any SW wind..
Edited by Weez911, 11 July 2016 - 08:29 AM.
Bro I thought it's usually after August? Now seems a bit early?
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Also, the haze usually comes with South-Western wind, I think the wind was still blowing from South-East yesterday. I don't feel any SW wind..
If haze comes early but also end early then not so bad. If not suffering days would be long!
I look out my office window, sky seems hazy?
I look out my office window, sky seems hazy?
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You mean overcast?
It does look a little hazy from my side. Cant see Batam. But I think is normal for morning. Afternoon might be clearer.
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Maybe you windows not cleaned?
It does look a little hazy from my side. Cant see Batam. But I think is normal for morning. Afternoon might be clearer.
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Maybe you windows not cleaned?
Hopefully it is due to overcast in the morning and not haze.�
lai liao ...
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When the wind change its direction, the haze will come to sg liao?! Hopefully this year haze will not be serious.
Sian....zzzz.....
Very soon no more clear sky, everyday sky will be gloomy and smoky with strong burning smell. Also cannot go outside exercise and jogging liao.�
wind direction must blow the haze to this si gina office
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Looks like no matter how serious the haze will be, the wind direction would never affect those hopeless people who cant stop the haze and who dont feel apologetic creating the haze to other countries?!
Today 76
Haze back
Today 76I am so used to seeing yellow warning on the apps, 76 is normal. Will still run.
Edited by Tohto, 24 August 2016 - 08:34 AM.
WussRedXLi says it will not be so bad this year compared to the last. So hopefully this is as bad as it can get.�
Yesterday in Senai the smell also very bad.
Woke up this morning to similar burning smell outside of my window .�
Think Mustank should contribute his share of haze commentary too. He is almost as good as WussRedXLi, or they are same person?�
This morning very strong burning smell.
OMG, haze is back ah?�
Think Mustank should contribute his share of haze commentary too. He is almost as good as WussRedXLi, or they are same person?
Moi is sai :(
CCB Indonesia.
I dont smell anything unusual and I still have a view of Batam from my office window. The view is still somewhat clear.
OMG, haze is back ah?
Rem last year we always come here to get real time updates and rant...looks likr that time has come
This morning very strong burning smell.
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Haze is back ...
closed windows and turned on air purifier ...
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Oh No, its BACK !!!
I dont smell anything unusual and I still have a view of Batam from my office window. The view is still somewhat clear.
Still have clear view from your office window? Then maybe is the 7th month burning? If haze is back now, think a bit early cause have to suffer until Nov!
Wait price increases ah
Those need air purifier one better hurry buy ah
Wait price increases ah
Sunny heng u last year bought liao, can take out and use now
Those need air purifier one better hurry buy ah
Wait price increases ah�
Bought alredi! �
Edited by Windwaver, 24 August 2016 - 09:54 AM.
Bought alredi!
I miss the clean Melbourne air
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I used to stay in the countryside when working overseas, the morning air is literally SWEET!
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Singapore's air just feels heavy even on a normal day.
WussRedXLi says it will not be so bad this year compared to the last. So hopefully this is as bad as it can get.�
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wuss who?
wuss who?
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You can find him in the Haze thread in EDMW. He is a weather and haze guru, machiam like Zhu Geliang that level one. Dont believe u ask Mustank.�
Ya lo need to mask up soon
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Not only mask up, also cannot go for my routine walking or jogging outside liao.
You can find him in the Haze thread in EDMW. He is a weather and haze guru, machiam like Zhu Geliang that level one. Dont believe u ask Mustank.�
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Wussredxli's obsession with air quality and haze/weather is to the level, he should become a meteorologist�
You can find him in the Haze thread in EDMW. He is a weather and haze guru, machiam like Zhu Geliang that level one. Dont believe u ask Mustank.
Wash aircon, vpn, all the tech stuff
http://aqicn.org/cit...gapore/central/
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Below 100.� Ok lah.
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Not only mask up, also cannot go for my routine walking or jogging outside liao.
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Juz wear mask & run if PM 2.5 below 100.
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Those need air purifier one better hurry buy ah
Wait price increases ah�
http://list.qoo10.sg...-3000/436305111
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Qoo10 got time sales.� $229 only.
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Better fast hand fast leg
Edited by Davidtch, 24 August 2016 - 10:39 AM.
http://aqicn.org/cit...gapore/central/
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Below 100.� Ok lah.
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Juz wear mask & run if PM 2.5 below 100.
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http://list.qoo10.sg...-3000/436305111
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Qoo10 got time sales.� $229 only.
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Better fast hand fast leg
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Aiya, new model need add money, delivery add money again. Maybe cheaper buying off the shelve.
You can find him in the Haze thread in EDMW. He is a weather and haze guru, machiam like Zhu Geliang that level one. Dont believe u ask Mustank.�
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oic...towkay also surf edmw?
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that means really got many hidden dragons inside there also
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oic...towkay also surf edmw?
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that means really got many hidden dragons inside there also
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EDMW is a great source for breaking news and saucy pics�
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Aim those KYM (???) threads and you will not look back!�
Aiya, new model need add money, delivery add money again. Maybe cheaper buying off the shelve.
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The cheapest model with Shipping is $258.
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The most expensive model + 1 air filter with Shipping is $384.
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By the way, last time i bought Samsung Air Purifier online with free air filter only about $250.
Though�Air Purifier buy one time can use very long de? Why every year when haze period, people always rush to buy�Air Purifier le?
Not only mask up, also cannot go for my routine walking or jogging outside liao.
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EDMW is a great source for breaking news and saucy pics
Aim those KYM (???) threads and you will not look back!
What is kym thread huh?
What is kym thread huh?
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I would also like to know.
No mask one please quickly go buy
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Air+ is the most comfortable mask to use for long hours.
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The only downside is the fan only last 2 hrs.
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What is kym thread huh?
Kym is the short form for Keyima (????). Usually people post pictures of girls and ask the other forummers if they are chio.
Oi Tankie, don't let me do all the explanations leh. Wait people think I tiko
It is super clear now. No sign of haze at all. F1 grand stands are up already.
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It is super clear now. No sign of haze at all. F1 grand stands are up already.
Love the view! Jin green, super nice n yay! No haze liao...happie mood
No haze is good. Hope haze dont come at all. Even if come also come oct or nov, definitely not now. I still want my clear sky.
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It is super clear now. No sign of haze at all. F1 grand stands are up already.
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Wow... good view :))
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Yup... no haze liao ... hope the flyer will continue to blow away the haze :))
Does crude oil price affect Palm oil price?
http://www.thecropsi...le-oil-markets/
If there is less burning this year, could it be low crude oil price capping palm oil price?
Wow... good view :))
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Yup... no haze liao ... hope the flyer will continue to blow away the haze :))
Dont think we can escape from the yearly haze, just depends how many months do we need to suffer from the haze only. Looks like this year so far so good, end aug already and yet haze still not here. But seems like F1 season haze confirmed will be here liao?
Kym is the short form for Keyima (�以�?). Usually people post pictures of girls and ask the other forummers if they are chio.
Oi Tankie, don't let me do all the explanations leh. Wait people think I tiko ���
Tankie only visit those sic threads
Though�Air Purifier buy one time can use very long de? Why every year when haze period, people always rush to buy�Air Purifier le?
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People rich ma, I usually replace filter but some people replace the whole purifier, not the filter�
People rich ma, I usually replace filter but some people replace the whole purifier, not the filter�
You mean these rich people only use their purifier only once a year and throw?!�
Really hope clear sky tomorrow ... No haze :)
Really hope clear sky tomorrow ... No haze :)
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Clear skies today. Still can see Batam from my office.
Clear skies today. Still can see Batam from my office.
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Wow :)
Yeah, no haze :))
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I finally can see the trees opp and hear the beautiful melody from the birds :))
yesterday and today morning when i reach office, i smell cha-ta smell leh......but later during the rest of the day no more.......
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so it is coming our way ?
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Wow :)
Yeah, no haze :))
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I finally can see the trees opp and hear the beautiful melody from the birds :))
Such beautiful sight won't be long liao. Haze should appear anytime. Lol.
Such beautiful sight won't be long liao. Haze should appear anytime. Lol.
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El Nino weather cycle has ended.� It will not be as bad as previous years lah.
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El Nino weather cycle has ended.� It will not be as bad as previous years lah.
Not as bad as previous years? It would be good news liao. At least no need to suffer so much, and yet maybe still can continue my outdoor activities. Lol.
Not as bad as previous years? It would be good news liao. At least no need to suffer so much, and yet maybe still can continue my outdoor activities. Lol.
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I haven't tell you the bad news yet.
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Nowadays, the gap btw El Nino & La Nina might be shorten.� If La Nina gonna starts in Oct this year, prepare for more rain & ponding.
I haven't tell you the bad news yet.
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Nowadays, the gap btw El Nino & La Nina might be shorten.� If La Nina gonna starts in Oct this year, prepare for more rain & ponding.
I rather have more rain & ponding than hazy sky. Lol.
I can confirm, its back!!! I aint see Batam from my office liao.
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sibei hazy this morning ... burning smell all over the atmosphere
Such a nice unobstructed view when there is no haze.I can confirm, its back!!! I aint see Batam from my office liao.
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Almost total white out now. Very bad now. Flyer is barely visible.
174 at North now.
My wife and son at home already close window with AP on liao.
PSI already exceeded 100!�
Check out the view now from my office!!!
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Feeling very choked in the West.. I think i gonna take leave n escape
CCB indonesia
Feeling very choked in the West.. I think i gonna take leave n escape
This is only the first day of the haze le, how many days of leave that you can take to escape lo?! Lol.
west AQI 200
Like the stupid retired general, all Indon govt officials who transit Singapore should be detained - and made to sit on the airport tarmac for 3 hours in the open with no mask.� See how they like it.
west AQI 200
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Don't confuse ppl lah.
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That's only on PM2.5 which is hazardous to our lung.
Don't confuse ppl lah.
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That's only on PM2.5 which is hazardous to our lung.
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i don't get what you mean.
PM 2.5 is the most important factor.
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Edited by Lala81, 26 August 2016 - 10:59 AM.
Hopefully it would not be hazy everyday!�
i don't get what you mean.
PM 2.5 is the most important factor.
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In Sg, we are not familiar with AQI.� In fact, AQI has not fixed definition.
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If you are reading the number from AQICN, PM10 also has AQI of 29.
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Rather than saying AQI, the correct message is AQI of PM2.5 = 200.
CCB.............KNN............KNNBCCB.................
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OK.............thats about all I can do..............
In Sg, we are not familiar with AQI.� In fact, AQI has not fixed definition.
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If you are reading the number from AQICN, PM10 also has AQI of 29.
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Rather than saying AQI, the correct message is AQI of PM2.5 = 200.
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... ... Whatever lah. Can't be bothered.
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Why do i give a crap about AQI of PM10? Your lungs can do the filtering of PM10.
... ... Whatever lah. Can't be bothered.
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Why do i give a crap about AQI of PM10? Your lungs can do the filtering of PM10.
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Want to give numbers.� Give accurate information.
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I know PM2.5 is important.
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Every year, they create such haze that affect millions of ppl, can they protest their own ppl?!
KNS!!
Our lives are affected !!!
Don't come and say we enjoy 9months of clean air and must thank them ... Made me even pissed off !!
We just want clean air !
Want to give numbers.� Give accurate information.
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I know PM2.5 is important.
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whatever lah.
3hr PSI (which btw includes PM2.5, PM10, NO2, SO2 and O3 and CO) is 128 now.
For small little thing like asking their ex general to stay back for some routine security checkup, they protested in front of our embassy...
Every year, they create such haze that affect millions of ppl, can they protest their own ppl?!
KNS!!
Our lives are affected !!!
Don't come and say we enjoy 9months of clean air and must thank them ... Made me even pissed off !!
We just want clean air !�
nothing to kaopeh about lah. Will never end one. Not in our lifetime, and never will.
Just switch on your AP and wear your masks.
As long as the wind from sumatra and borneo doesn't blow towards JKT, nothing will change in our lifetime.
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Edited by Lala81, 26 August 2016 - 11:24 AM.
For small little thing like asking their ex general to stay back for some routine security checkup, they protested in front of our embassy...
Every year, they create such haze that affect millions of ppl, can they protest their own ppl?!
KNS!!
Our lives are affected !!!
Don't come and say we enjoy 9months of clean air and must thank them ... Made me even pissed off !!
We just want clean air !�
Sadly, we can't retaliate by protesting in front of their embassy.
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Pray for more rain.
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By the way, that ex-general carries a lot of political clout hor.
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Sengkang area now at 128 ...........
Like the stupid retired general, all Indon govt officials who transit Singapore should be detained - and made to sit on the airport tarmac for 3 hours in the open with no mask.� See how they like it.
They all sit in VIP lounges�
You and me sit in "Al Fresco" ones aka Kopitiam
CCB.............KNN............KNNBCCB.................
OK.............thats about all I can do..............
Now suck the ccb haze more hahaha
CCB.............KNN............KNNBCCB.................
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OK.............thats about all I can do..............
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There are more....
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TLMKFH ..... (throw your mother flower shoe - in Cantonese)
SNM ... (in hokkien)
KNBKK ... (in teochew)
KB, PKM�.... (in malay)
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Now play pokemon is like playing resident evil haha
There are more....
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TLMKFH ..... (throw your mother flower shoe - in Cantonese)
SNM ... (in hokkien)
KNBKK ... (in teochew)
KB, PKM�.... (in malay)
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NBCCB..............this one really must praise..............but KNN I run out liao.............otang until tomorrow............but wait where the indian and ang moh ones..........
NBCCB..............this one really must praise..............but KNN I run out liao.............otang until tomorrow............but wait where the indian and ang moh ones..........
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FUDD ... in English
WW ... in tamil
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FUDD ... in English
WW ... in tamil
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The haze is very poisonous, just went out for lunch a while, could feel my throat is itchy and dry.!�
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Would be nice to escape to Taiwan for the weekend�
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Got fresh air, great food and xmm�
Would be nice to escape to Taiwan for the weekend
Got fresh air, great food and xmm
Would be nice to escape to Taiwan for the weekend�
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Got fresh air, great food and xmm�
Haze will last for about 3 months le, you only escape for one weekend not much difference also. Lol.
What lao eh ... I ran out of N95 masks ....
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Better to buy asap !
Go aussie better, its winter now there
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Yep, going Sydney on the 4th Sep week�
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Seafood here i cum!
hm...can safely "ON" my front fog lights (pure rally yellow), and occasionally rear fog lights too !�
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Yep, going Sydney on the 4th Sep week
Seafood here i cum!
I planning to go to, sian so many haze, asap haha
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I don't care how everyone looks�or interpret�it. Those figures are pretty F-ing high! And they show no sign of abating.
Thought of planning a short holiday to Indonesia. Now decided against it. Will not give them my money when they keep trying to kill me.
This haze is like a yearly affair Liao.really like a ??????!
Roach shall prevail!
What lao eh ... I ran out of N95 masks ....
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Better to buy asap !
Might be a little too late to buy your masks liao. Should be out of stock the moment the haze strike us this morning!
Might be a little too late to buy your masks liao. Should be out of stock the moment the haze strike us this morning!
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I think this time most people more prepared. I was at Bishan CC and they were giving out free masks. My son's school also gave each of them 3 N95 masks.
We get this super welcome every 3-5 months , kinda wondering what our Gahmen can do about it, I jolly well thy have done many due diligence stuff n stamping out fire-starter and getting our neighbours on hot spot area to crack down those idiots
� seriously, enough s enough.
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Luckily I had a good trek yesterday noon at SICC and back safely afternoon are 5pm, feeling great body, n ache and shoulder pain all gone, now this damn Haze...makes breathing and driving bad.
I think this time most people more prepared. I was at Bishan CC and they were giving out free masks. My son's school also gave each of them 3 N95 masks.
More or less should be more prepare for the haze, since past years the haze was very bad here. Actually i also already bought masks and stock at home liao, but didnt bring the mask out with me this morning!�
Really sld build many many giant fans along the coast facing them.................and blow the CB haze back at them...........
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Can SG sue them in international court???.............or something???..............
Really sld build many many giant fans along the coast facing them.................and blow the CB haze back at them...........
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Can SG sue them in international court???.............or something???..............
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If Singapore takes them to international court, we will be accused of not being "neighbourly" and not understanding that they are doing all they can to stop the fires.� And they got picture some more - see? their personnel died fighting the fires and Singapore still so unappreciative, blah, blah blah ....
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F*** Indonesia
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Might be a little too late to buy your masks liao. Should be out of stock the moment the haze strike us this morning!
maybe bro Mustank got stock?
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this haze is real bad, it happened all of a sudden
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The braised duck I had for lunch seems more like smoked duck
Really sld build many many giant fans along the coast facing them.................and blow the CB haze back at them...........
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Can SG sue them in international court???.............or something???..............
Just change the speed of the Singapore Flyer maybe can solve the haze issue�
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Sunday got 1/2 marathon army run ; Will kenna cancel or not???
Got Any bros or sisters taking part ??�
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If Singapore takes them to international court, we will be accused of not being "neighbourly" and not understanding that they are doing all they can to stop the fires.� And they got picture some more - see? their personnel died fighting the fires and Singapore still so unappreciative, blah, blah blah ....
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F*** Indonesia
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CCB................if they knn dont start the fire.............nobody need to die ................this one really like what Picnic06-Biante15 said.............."f**k U deep deep Indonesia !!!".............
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wanted to go Bali for a short trip in Dec..................Knn change my mind now..............go spend in thailand better ..............
Just change the speed of the Singapore Flyer maybe can solve the haze issue�
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Sunday got 1/2 marathon army run ; Will kenna cancel or not???
Got Any bros or sisters taking part ??�
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I think use my wings better..............last year I did the same thing................almost killed me...........
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the haze is siao siao one.................if later wind direction change.............then carry on running lor............
maybe bro Mustank got stock?
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this haze is real bad, it happened all of a sudden
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The braised duck I had for lunch seems more like smoked duck
Every year the haze also so called happened all of a sudden de. Like yesterday the weather still clear and bright, then next day could suddenly become gloomy and hazy! Think we should get used to such sudden change of weather around this time. Lol.
Really sld build many many giant fans along the coast facing them.................and blow the CB haze back at them........... � �
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Can SG sue them in international court???.............or something???..............
If so easily sue them, this haze issue could have settled long long time ago liao. And we would not experience haze season every year. Lol.
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If so easily sue them, this haze issue could have settled long long time ago liao. And we would not experience haze season every year. Lol.
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Yah lor..................I also know.............thats why I said .............. KPKB is about all I can do liao..............but still knn sibei tulan.............its like knn know the axe is falling but cannot draw the head back.............
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Air purifiers are flying off the shelves.. those who haven't buy yet better go buy chop chop..
Air purifiers are flying off the shelves.. those who haven't buy yet better go buy chop chop..
Maybe go buy today still have chance. After which all out of stock liao. You know how fast hand fast leg people here lo.
Maybe go buy today still have chance. After which all out of stock liao. You know how fast hand fast leg people here lo.
People always have this mentality of "what if tomorrow the haze is gone?".
No la, people will only go buy air purifier and masks when the PSI reading is high, and when the sky is covered with thick smoke. Like today lo, you go pharmacy and you will see tons of people rushing to buy masks. But when the sky is clear again, no one will be buying masks. Lol. �
Maybe go buy today still have chance. After which all out of stock liao. You know how fast hand fast leg people here lo.
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no one else have stock pile?? this is turning out to be a yearly affair. ... already bot during safe time�
no one else have stock pile?? this is turning out to be a yearly affair. ... already bot during safe time�
Like one bro here mentioned, people throw every year and buy new air purifier when the haze strike again. Lol. Thats why every year during the haze period, air purifier would be default out of stock.
Like one bro here mentioned, people throw every year and buy new air purifier when the haze strike again. Lol. Thats why every year during the haze period, air purifier would be default out of stock.
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mayb.. its demand vs supply... sellers creating market...�
Whole island PM 2.5 is above 200 liao.
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Better sleep in office if you have no mask
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Whole island PM 2.5 is above 200 liao.
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Better sleep in office if you have no mask
Sound serious yet again! Seems like every year when haze strike here, the reading always very high de?!
Whole island PM 2.5 is above 200 liao.
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Better sleep in office if you have no mask
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Another outdoor activities sure backfire....
boycott Sinar Mas / APP products�
Afternoon theres strong wind, haze seemed better liao
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Yup, marginally better. But still cant see the ships from my office.
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generally I think they are not Singapore companies. they are indo companies that have offices in Singapore to make use of our financial, logistics, and other services.
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and if there are any chaos, like in '98, the first place they would�hide is in Singapore.
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oh and remember to go thank them for the haze: http://thankyouindoforthecleanair.com/
rem thank them many fxxxing times....
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Wah! Choking...
Wah! Choking...
i think the reading is not very acurate.
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see your own area yourself and judge
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, if need maybe oxygen mask also must wear
i think the reading is not very acurate.
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see your own area yourself and judge
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, if need maybe oxygen mask also must wear
Maybe we need to carry an oxygen tank during the haze period?!�
Wah! Choking...
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eh, what happened ? you accidentally swallowed something ?�
Want to give numbers.� Give accurate information.
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I know PM2.5 is important.
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Don't so fussy lah...
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Ahem.
http://www.mycarforu...ines/?p=4899362
eh, what happened ? you accidentally swallowed something ?
we need this...............
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eh, what happened ? you accidentally swallowed something ?
My view goot or not
My view goot or not
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yishun ?�
My view goot or not
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New Pokemons.. tonite go catch..
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yishun ?
http://m.imgur.com/GUvlLLG?r
http://m.imgur.com/GUvlLLG?r
Hahahahaha!!!!!
Catching monkeymon tonite!!!!!New Pokemons.. tonite go catch..
Still thinking should i go home straight after work or go out walk walk? Will the haze still as bad outside?!�
Still thinking should i go home straight after work or go out walk walk? Will the haze still as bad outside?!�
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Don't go home.
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PM 2.5 is more than 150 now.
Don't go home.
PM 2.5 is more than 150 now.
Time to stay indoors ....
Looks like tomorrow will be indoor day ...
Really hope the wind direction will change soon to blow away the haze ....
Seems like the haze temporary gets better since 7pm plus till now. No more hazy sky. Hopefully it will stay this way over the weekends.
No much haze and smell now as of 7.30am ... though didn't see any index yet ...
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Hopefully the early morning rain have dampen the haze... and pls change the direction to blow back to the original source ...
haze building up now
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looks like another hazy day
Can feel the discomfort in my throat.
Better stay indoor
Take care Bro ... Drink more water or herbal tea ...
Don't go home.
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PM 2.5 is more than 150 now.
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yes ... tiagong inside KTV PSI is healthy range ...�
so far today looks good................fingers cross.............
yes ... tiagong inside KTV PSI is healthy range ...
That's always healthy one lah ...
Happenings lah
bought mine from NTUC. will look around Cold Storage, Giant etc as well.
for hazy weather, would up my green bean soup intake.
just got back from outside, eyes smarting a bit.
Green bean can add sweet potato n sago
Green bean can add sweet potato n sago
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haha ... I usually go to this aunty's dessert stall at Mei Ling Market.
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have a choice of sweet potato or tapioca,�
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Today Beijing
Clear blue sky..
how much more we need to "sugar coat" the bad, worse and harmful of haze?
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Edited by Wt_know, 27 August 2016 - 09:09 PM.
"moderate unhealthy"
how much more we need to "sugar coat" the bad, worse and harmful of haze?
whole day breathing in burning smell and choking ...�
PM2.5 is below 100 now.� According to AQICN, it will stays at that level until tomorrow night.� Tomorrow night will be below 50
We can keep complaining the haze, but this is the kind of response we get from the Vice President of Indonesia.�
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Speaking in the VP's office on 26 August morning, Vice President of Indonesia, Jusuf said that the smoke caused by the forest fire which was blown to Singapore is something common due to the wind.
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He said that it is up to Singapore's Government to complain about the haze. "As long as there are lots of fire here and the wind blow to the north, the smoke must have reached Singapore. Nobody wants the smoke to reach Singapore. It is just that we can not control the wind. How do you control the wind?"
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Jusuf stated that the Indonesia Government has put in its maximum effort to put off the fire. He added that the Government has also conducted Emergency Operations which involved armies and armadas to detect and battle the fire. "We have deployed helicopters, aeroplanes, and people to put off the fire. The Government has done the best," he said.
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Asked about the complaints from Singapore, Jusuf only said, "It is up to them to complain. Whom are they going to complain to? Are they going to complain to the wind?"
Indo really cannot make it, created the haze and yet say cannot control the wind and bring the haze to sg!
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But today haze seems quite ok in tiong baru and town area le.
KNN ... what kind of lowly VP talk about controlling wind ....
if want to blame ... blame the wind ... pui !
say until like that ... indon need more wind master instead of fire fighter
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Edited by Wt_know, 27 August 2016 - 11:33 PM.
Army 1/2 marathon proceeding as of now ...
KNN ... what kind of lowly VP talk about controlling wind ....
if want to blame ... blame the wind ... pui !
say until like that ... indon need more wind master instead of fire fighter
Inside KTV room worse, with all the smoking.
SPA room would be better air LOL.
Looks like haze did not get worst over the weekend.
This is only the first day of the haze le, how many days of leave that you can take to escape lo?! Lol.
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not alot of leave, lol.. still got mc ma
Eh, today like no haze leh
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Still have but not so intense. I can faintly view Batam from my office still not fully clear.
Hopefully haze can go away soon.. cos I am getting nose irritation ...
ah choo .....
Still have but not so intense. I can faintly view Batam from my office still not fully clear.
hahaha.......I am afraid those gila mosquitoes will just be driven into our homes by the haze instead!
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Damn.......just when you need the haze to kill those gila mosquitoes
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hahaha.......I am afraid those gila mosquitoes will just be driven into our homes by the haze instead!
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eh you dun call Mustank gila leh...altho his house is below
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Seems like haze a bit only?!�
Dun like that leh...... dun Haze have we should just diam diam and enjoy the clean air while we can, reserve our energy to kpkb when the main force hits. The one last friday is just a warning shot...calm before the storm
Seems like haze a bit only?!�
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hahaha.......I am afraid those gila mosquitoes will just be driven into our homes by the haze instead!
This one too high class Liaoeh you dun call Mustank gila leh...altho his house is below
My one is the old Woodbridge
Haven't enbloc yet
Dun like that leh...... dun Haze have we should just diam diam and enjoy the clean air while we can, reserve our energy to kpkb when the main force hits. The one last friday is just a warning shot...calm before the storm
True, true, we just enjoy the clean air while we can while the storm should come anytime again.
Dun like that leh...... dun Haze have we should just diam diam and enjoy the clean air while we can, reserve our energy to kpkb when the main force hits. The one last friday is just a warning shot...calm before the storm
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i also say...it's like pre-ejac
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he full bloom will cum later
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Porker say one...Weez911 confirm
Rem to drink lots of water.
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Have N95 with you all the time.
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Lastly, have AQICN Singapore all the time on your phone browser.� Check it before you go out.
Rem to drink lots of water.
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Have N95 with you all the time.
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Lastly, have AQICN Singapore all the time on your phone browser.� Check it before you go out.
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One more advice on top of yours ... if can stay indoor, just stay indoors like office or shopping malls, or even home :)
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Some years, the haze wasn't that bad. Hope we will be lucky again. Can only hope .... can't do much.
As far as i remember, haze seems to be getting worse over the years. Cant really remember which years haze wasnt bad? Lol.
The smell of burnt ash is pretty strong. Think I will wake up to an index above 100..... C
nb US seems not interested in this region's this particular issue.
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while really dip in in the middle east.
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hmmmm......
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hope the cumming up Hillary Clinton will care for this.
nb US seems not interested in this region's this particular issue.
while really dip in in the middle east.
hmmmm......
hope the cumming up Hillary Clinton will care for this.
Are you sure you want them to do a middle east in SEA? I prefer they stay away and not mess things up.
Are you sure you want them to do a middle east in SEA? I prefer they stay away and not mess things up.
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eh.. i have the impression you quite intellect but in bad mood.
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of course i expect their approach to be different as different issue.
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considering or what appears to be their belief on human rights they should do something right
A bit hazy this morning ....
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Hope haze can go away soon ... else double whammy of haze and zika ...
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Poor children, school holidays will have to be clamped in homes ...
I cant see Batam from my office today. Looks like haze is back.
I cant see Batam from my office today. Looks like haze is back.
Haze is back again!�
According to radio this morning, NEA has switched to 1hr PM2.5 reading + 24h PSI.
No more 3 hr PSI liao.
According to radio this morning, NEA has switched to 1hr PM2.5 reading + 24h PSI.
No more 3 hr PSI liao.
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The hourly 2.5 should be good enough indicator ... its always the fine particles that could be health hazards to us ...
A bit hazy this morning ....
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Hope haze can go away soon ... else double whammy of haze and zika ...
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Poor children, school holidays will have to be clamped in homes ...
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With haze the mozzies still fly around? What mask are they wearing? N100?
With haze the mozzies still fly around? What mask are they wearing? N100?
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their philosophy. YOLO!�
Indonesia should either ask the Philippines president to attach to the Indon environ team for 2 mth, or send in what is left of the army who is not corrupt (if any) and take down the mobs one by one, then torture and interrogate them to review who is behind all these, then go bring those people responsible in and do the same to them...
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Cannot believe a sovereign country allow this to happen.
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Indonesia environment team threatened with death investigating haze
- Posted�05 Sep 2016 14:57
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- Updated�05 Sep 2016 15:10
: Dozens of Indonesian men, suspected of being hired by an oil palm plantation company, threatened to kill environmental investigators checking on fires on Sumatra island, the environment ministry said.
The incident illustrates the difficulties Indonesia faces tackling the illegal burning of vegetation to clear land for palm oil and pulp and paper plantations that causes clouds of smoke every dry season, which at times blanket the region, raising fears for public health and air travel.
The ministry said a group of up to 100 men detained seven investigators for about 12 hours on the weekend and threatened to burn them alive and dump their bodies in a river at an oil palm plantation in Rokan Hulu, Riau province.
The team was following up on satellite images showing "hot spots", or suspected fires, in a concession of PT Andika Permata Sawit Lestari (APSL) oil palm plantation company.
There were "strong indications" the mob was deployed by the company, the ministry said in a statement.
"With this incident, the investigation of PT APSL will become our top priority," Environment Minister Siti Nurbaya said in the statement, referring to both suspected forest encroachment by the company and the detention of the team.
"The environment ministry will investigate this and take strict action in accordance with the law," she said.
A company official, contacted by Reuters on Monday, declined to comment.
The team was released only after lengthy negotiations involving police and after they agreed to delete photographic evidence and to leave behind two vehicles and equipment. The equipment and vehicles were recovered the next day.
The investigators, however, managed to retrieve video footage shot by a drone showing thousands of hectares of forest had been burned illegally in and around the APSL concession.
"As far as the eye can see, an area that was once peatland has been converted into oil palm plantation," Nurbaya said.
Plantation companies drain swampy peatland before planting their crops and the dried-out peat is particularly flammable and often catches fire when companies set fires to clear vegetation.
More than 450 individuals have been arrested in connection with land and forest fires this year.
Under Indonesian law, companies found guilty of clearing land by burning can be fined up to 10 billion rupiah (US$735,000), and the management faces up to 10 years in jail. Companies that fail to control fires started elsewhere but which spread into their concession land also face punishment.
Smoke from fires in Riau often drifts over nearby Singapore and Malaysia. Air pollution in Singapore rose to "unhealthy" levels late last month after a spike in fires in the area.
- Reuters
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Edited by Tohto, 10 September 2016 - 03:24 PM.
Now I know why Indonesia will never able to put off the forest fire. Just look at this photo from today ST. 14 person holding the water hose, all those standing behind basically wayang like doing SAF log PT.
Will cause all the tiny holes in the fire hoses.
Frankly, looks normal to me. Whoever drag my fire hose on the floor sure kena scolded by me. The rough terrain or the normal road will tear these rubber hoses.
Will cause all the tiny holes in the fire hoses.
but seems like many hoses carrying along but not using�
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