Separately, according to Bild, Gotze and his agent have parted ways. Expecting news on him soon.
Does that means the end of Juan Mata at Old Toilet?
Bad news for Pool fans....
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Flash over Eurosports news : Gotze staying and will not come to Pool ....
Edited by Picnic06-Biante15, 23 May 2016 - 09:59 PM.
Bad news for Pool fans....
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Flash over Eurosports news : Gotze staying and will not come to Pool ....
Not to worry too much. We have Edin Dzeko as alternative option.
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http://bleacherrepor...lotelli-rumours
Bad news for Pool fans....
Flash over Eurosports news : Gotze staying and will not come to Pool ....
Source from Bild. Reported that Gotze had chosen to stay with Bayern after a talk with Ancelotti.
Not long ago, there was also a report saying that Ancelotti had told him to find a new club.
Source from Bild. Reported that Gotze had chosen to stay with Bayern after a talk with Ancelotti.
Not long ago, there was also a report saying that Ancelotti had told him to find a new club.
Not forgetting Kicker, which is more reliable then Bild, just a day ago reported that Gotze is deciding between Liverpool and Dortmund.
Good move by him to preserve his long standing friendship with the Dutchman.
http://www.mirror.co...ed-boss-8034049
Separately, what would u do if u were Giggs? Stay n learn from one of the top bosses in the business or dirty your hands in a no. 1 post elsewhere? I would choose the former esp if I have my heart set on being United Mgr in the long run esp as we all know JM Unlikely to stay for long.
Edited by Spring, 24 May 2016 - 08:23 AM.
JM called LvG to say he was being approached by United for the Mgr's job few weeks ago.
Good move by him to preserve his long standing friendship with the Dutchman.
http://www.mirror.co...ed-boss-8034049
Separately, what would u do if u were Giggs? Stay n learn from one of the top bosses in the business or dirty your hands in a no. 1 post elsewhere? I would choose the former esp if I have my heart set on being United Mgr in the long run esp as we all know JM Unlikely to stay for long.
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Wonder how Mata felt ...
From what I heard, Giggs is gone.JM called LvG to say he was being approached by United for the Mgr's job few weeks ago.
Good move by him to preserve his long standing friendship with the Dutchman.
http://www.mirror.co...ed-boss-8034049
Separately, what would u do if u were Giggs? Stay n learn from one of the top bosses in the business or dirty your hands in a no. 1 post elsewhere? I would choose the former esp if I have my heart set on being United Mgr in the long run esp as we all know JM Unlikely to stay for long.
Enough of waiting and playing second fiddle to other managers. Giggs is trying to restore the playing style of SAF but the club has other ideas.
Also, I don't buy the shit of Mourinho treasuring the friendship with LvG. All the things he did behind the scenes is not something you would do to a friend.
Don't like Jose from day 1. Now I despise him as a person. Yes, he might have won a lot of honours as a manager but he is not winning many hearts.
Edited by Osprey23, 24 May 2016 - 08:55 AM.
http://www.dailymail...l-interest.html
Tentative interest from Liverpool LOL
From what I heard, Giggs is gone.
Enough of waiting and playing second fiddle to other managers. Giggs is trying to restore the playing style of SAF but the club has other ideas.
Also, I don't buy the shit of Mourinho treasuring the friendship with LvG. All the things he did behind the scenes is not something you would do to a friend.
Don't like Jose from day 1. Now I despise him as a person. Yes, he might have won a lot of honours as a manager but he is not winning many hearts.
You have some valid points and that's why I say with JM, it comes as a package and likely that's why United took so long to appoint him and I'm sure there are still some skeptics amongst the Board.
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Nevertheless, let's see how this pans out. IMO, it's make or break for both sides.JM wants to repair his name after the fiasco at Chelsea and United needs to get back their glory days else too long out and they could be in an extended period in the doldrums and even they being the biggest club in EPL revenue wise, will see a drop in their popularity and hence earnings if not careful......
Not forgetting Kicker, which is more reliable then Bild, just a day ago reported that Gotze is deciding between Liverpool and Dortmund.
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really alot of noises at the moment. maybe the change of heart might well be Pool's inability to offer UCL football next season for this world cup winner..�
From what I heard, Giggs is gone.
Enough of waiting and playing second fiddle to other managers. Giggs is trying to restore the playing style of SAF but the club has other ideas.
Also, I don't buy the shit of Mourinho treasuring the friendship with LvG. All the things he did behind the scenes is not something you would do to a friend.
Don't like Jose from day 1. Now I despise him as a person. Yes, he might have won a lot of honours as a manager but he is not winning many hearts.
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Jose feels like a man sore from his wounds and trying to have a chance to have a go at his former employers. �but cluedos to him, all his antics in last few months of wooing Utd now managed to get him that place.
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how successful he will be, time will tell. He still has a lot of critics, even at the board level to cope with. �It is open secret that Alex doesn't like him.�
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one thing for sure, he will be backed with spending power so expect a massive clearout at OT this summer too. �
From what I heard, Giggs is gone.
Enough of waiting and playing second fiddle to other managers. Giggs is trying to restore the playing style of SAF but the club has other ideas.
Also, I don't buy the shit of Mourinho treasuring the friendship with LvG. All the things he did behind the scenes is not something you would do to a friend.
Don't like Jose from day 1. Now I despise him as a person. Yes, he might have won a lot of honours as a manager but he is not winning many hearts.
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anyway nowadays soccer is not about on the field but also off the filed.. next season would be a dramatic one especially with pep and jose at it again when they were in Spain.�
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at least it is entertaining amidst the kelongness in soccer these days...�
really alot of noises at the moment. maybe the change of heart might well be Pool's inability to offer UCL football next season for this world cup winner..
Unlikely bro. If Gotze told Klopp that he wanted to wait for our final to see if we can get UCL, Klopp would have ended the interest then. Klopp said before, he wants players to get us back into UCL, not wait till we get then they join.
Jose feels like a man sore from his wounds and trying to have a chance to have a go at his former employers. but cluedos to him, all his antics in last few months of wooing Utd now managed to get him that place.
how successful he will be, time will tell. He still has a lot of critics, even at the board level to cope with. It is open secret that Alex doesn't like him.
one thing for sure, he will be backed with spending power so expect a massive clearout at OT this summer too.
Interesting summer for them certainly. Mendes will have a good time.
Is there a boardroom issue at OT...?
Anyway, glad to see he's back with a job...together with others...to make 16-17 season one not to be missed.
I really can't find a compelling reason for JM to helm the devils. His character, personality, style of play is just not ManU.
Is there a boardroom issue at OT...?
Anyway, glad to see he's back with a job...together with others...to make 16-17 season one not to be missed.
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folks at OT are getting pretty desperate liao.. no ucl for next season. if they stay with LVG for another season, fans will be very bored til the pt of angst.�
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with no viable other options and one in Jose who is opening courting them.. think they had a long look and eventually caved in..�
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how successful he will be, time will tell. He still has a lot of critics, even at the board level to cope with. �It is open secret that Alex doesn't like him.�
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I'm not too sure if this is true or not cos I thought Fergie were pals with him.
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What I read is that Bobby Charlton amongst other directors are not convinced by his antics but obviously�JM had some�supporters as well and hence he got the job. Read he�was asked to sign a "good behaviour" clause or something similar which he turned down and still got the job so obviously his track record won the day.
folks at OT are getting pretty desperate liao.. no ucl for next season. if they stay with LVG for another season, fans will be very bored til the pt of angst.
with no viable other options and one in Jose who is opening courting them.. think they had a long look and eventually caved in..
Never consider pellegrini? No need to move house...haha
I'm not too sure if this is true or not cos I thought Fergie were pals with him.
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What I read is that Bobby Charlton amongst other directors are not convinced by his antics but obviously�JM had some�supporters as well and hence he got the job. Read he�was asked to sign a "good behaviour" clause or something similar which he turned down and still got the job so obviously his track record won the day.
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lol sounds like Mario's clauses...�
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he sure has many enemies in the EPL. One of these managers will come and ruffle his feathers and test out these clauses lol�
From what I heard, Giggs is gone.
Enough of waiting and playing second fiddle to other managers. Giggs is trying to restore the playing style of SAF but the club has other ideas.
Also, I don't buy the shit of Mourinho treasuring the friendship with LvG. All the things he did behind the scenes is not something you would do to a friend.
Don't like Jose from day 1. Now I despise him as a person. Yes, he might have won a lot of honours as a manager but he is not winning many hearts.
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I read a report�sometime in February 2016 that JM had already discuss with ManU board of him taking over and some form of agreement�signed.�
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If ManU failed to axe LvG and appoint JM, ManU had to pay JM 5 million pound....
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So its either ManU board pays Lvg 5 million pound or JM 5 million pound just by doing nothing...
I'm not too sure if this is true or not cos I thought Fergie were pals with him.
What I read is that Bobby Charlton amongst other directors are not convinced by his antics but obviously JM had some supporters as well and hence he got the job. Read he was asked to sign a "good behaviour" clause or something similar which he turned down and still got the job so obviously his track record won the day.
Not his track record, is the desperation from Man Utd board. There is only one party at the upper hand in this negotiation.
SAF and most of the legends don't want him. They are all pro Giggs. Glaziers and Woody want JM.
Not his track record, is the desperation from Man Utd board. There is only one party at the upper hand in this negotiation.
SAF and most of the legends don't want him. They are all pro Giggs. Glaziers and Woody want JM.
I see. Looks like Fergie doesn't have any more clout then cos I always thought he and Charlton had the most say. Glazers not surprising they want JM but Woodward is abit�strange cos I read he was instrumental in getting LvG in and thus sacking him�is sort of a reflection on himself.�
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Anyway, I await to see how JM performs cos like most neutrals, I don't feel this is a right�match but if anyone can prove us wrong it's JM so time will tell I guess.......
I really can't find a compelling reason for JM to helm the devils. His character, personality, style of play is just not ManU.
Is there a boardroom issue at OT...?
Anyway, glad to see he's back with a job...together with others...to make 16-17 season one not to be missed.
I am just glad that after this appointment, he will never be considered for the Anfield job. I really dunno how to support a manager whom detest so much as a person. Won't have such predicament liao
I see. Looks like Fergie doesn't have any more clout then cos I always thought he and Charlton had the most say. Glazers not surprising they want JM but Woodward is abit strange cos I read he was instrumental in getting LvG in and thus sacking him is sort of a reflection on himself.
Anyway, I await to see how JM performs cos like most neutrals, I don't feel this is a right match but if anyone can prove us wrong it's JM so time will tell I guess.......
They are just the drivers of the main groups. The swing votes decide how this goes. Woody needs to get on the same said as his pay masters. He is employed by Glaziers, not the legends. Yes Woody was fighting for LvG's survival but once that's beyond him, he needs to take a stand on JM.
SAF and SBC have concern over his personality and all those bad publicity that might tarnish the name of the club. Glaziers only concern is ���. Other board members? How many actually have Man Utd at heart? Or are they more interest the earnings of the club?
JM is like LvG, never a builder. Will JM continues to trust the likes of Rashford?
I am just glad that after this appointment, he will never be considered for the Anfield job. I really dunno how to support a manager whom detest so much as a person. Won't have such predicament liao
Hate to say this but, never is a definitive word which shouldn't be used casually, especially so in soccer world where musical chair is part and parcel of the game.
However, having said that. I think I'll never see the young lions in the world cup soccer final round in my lifetime. Haha.
I read a report sometime in February 2016 that JM had already discuss with ManU board of him taking over and some form of agreement signed.
If ManU failed to axe LvG and appoint JM, ManU had to pay JM 5 million pound....
So its either ManU board pays Lvg 5 million pound or JM 5 million pound just by doing nothing...
Whoever came up with that kind of biz plan ought to be shot.
5 Man United players who may thrive under JM.
I rate Anders Herrera and have a feeling he will do well under JM.
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http://www.football3...relish-mourinho
I really can't find a compelling reason for JM to helm the devils. His character, personality, style of play is just not ManU.
Is there a boardroom issue at OT...?
Anyway, glad to see he's back with a job...together with others...to make 16-17 season one not to be missed.
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ah ya.... when before LVG come in, most of us so happy then what happen....
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now Jose come in and most of are unhappy about it, it may have a revered effect and surpass most of our expectations... #justsaying
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anyhow.. read the below link up for the critics of Jose being at Man u. And for those whom gloat at Man u being desperate or whatsoever. just know karma is a bitch!!!
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like how one of my acquaintances kana heart broken when liverpoo lost the final and before that, he was gloating about Man U loss to the poo.�
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http://www.skysports...snt-trust-youth
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Edited by Jayy25, 24 May 2016 - 01:54 PM.
Here is another transfer rumour to make everybody�
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For �4.7m, definitely a bargain. Let's hope Pool can get a proper goalkeeping coach so as not to ruin this young talent.
Edited by Osprey23, 24 May 2016 - 05:14 PM.
Good buy from the EPL new boy. Not sure why they got a free run on him
Even before his official announcement, several papers already reporting that Sporting Lisbon's Joao Mario will be top target for Mourinho. �60m buyout clause
Yes... keep buying... keep spending... help those poorer club earn more $
Didn't recognise Wenger
Clash of the Managerial Titans in EPL next season!
Didn't recognise Wenger 25 May 2016 - 10:29 PMOsprey23Looks like all those reputed jornos are getting eggs on their faces liao
http://www.liverpool...gotzes-11384968
Gotze likely off based on Low's comments.
26 May 2016 - 07:09 AMOsprey23Lorient Vice-President Alex Hayes has revealed Liverpool along with three other clubs have made an offer for left-back Raphael Guerrero.
Hayes: "For now four major foreign clubs, including Dortmund and Liverpool have made an offer."
Edited by Osprey23, 26 May 2016 - 07:11 AM.
26 May 2016 - 08:23 AMOsprey23 26 May 2016 - 08:49 AMSpringInteresting Mirror article on hits n myths of JM's appointment at Man United.
I bet some of you will disagree with some of the points but that's what makes football interesting right?
http://www.mirror.co...reasons-8049898
26 May 2016 - 08:55 AMBismarckIn another news, Everton is still looking for a manager
26 May 2016 - 09:10 AMOsprey23Interesting Mirror article on hits n myths of JM's appointment at Man United.
I bet some of you will disagree with some of the points but that's what makes football interesting right?
http://www.mirror.co...reasons-8049898
Before we can find out whether they are hits and myths, Man Utd first have to compensate Chelsea on JM's image rights.
http://www.express.c...eague-trademark
This better works well as Man Utd are really paying a lot to get him.
In another news, Everton is still looking for a manager
Well, they need time to slowly eliminate their targets.
Emery off the list now.
http://www.liverpool...lf-out-11382279
26 May 2016 - 09:18 AMBismarckBefore we can find out whether they are hits and myths, Man Utd first have to compensate Chelsea on JM's image rights.
http://www.express.c...eague-trademark
This better works well as Man Utd are really paying a lot to get him.
Well, they need time to slowly eliminate their targets.
Emery off the list now.
http://www.liverpool...lf-out-11382279�
Emery doesn't want to offend Klopp and Liverpool after what he did to us
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26 May 2016 - 09:24 AMSpringBefore we can find out whether they are hits and myths, Man Utd first have to compensate Chelsea on JM's image rights.
http://www.express.c...eague-trademark
This better works well as Man Utd are really paying a lot to get him.
Well, they need time to slowly eliminate their targets.
Emery off the list now.
http://www.liverpool...lf-out-11382279�
Chelsea smart for once, having registered JM's image rights. Didn't know this and don't know true or not but read, Inter and Real had to pay Chelsea for his image rights when he was Mgr at those teams!!
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Everton Mgr job down to Moyes or De Boer it seems. Would have been interesting to see how Emery fared at Goodison cos he could have been tailor made for them I feel but then again without Mochi behind the scenes, he might not be so successful? Unfortunately, we will nvr know!
26 May 2016 - 09:47 AMOsprey23Emery is a very good tactician. His in game changes are usually sound. The Europa final showed that and Klopp failed to react to his tactical change until it was too late.Everton Mgr job down to Moyes or De Boer it seems. Would have been interesting to see how Emery fared at Goodison cos he could have been tailor made for them I feel but then again without Mochi behind the scenes, he might not be so successful? Unfortunately, we will nvr know!
Key change he made was to drop Krychowiak deeper and pushed the fullbacks further up. That effectively stretched Pool's midfield wide the limited the effect of Klopp's pressing game.
As said before, Emery is looking at a step up. To manage a team that can be in the UCL consistently. If Arsenal approach him, I believe he will be tempted. Everton? Sorry![]()
Edited by Osprey23, 26 May 2016 - 09:47 AM.
26 May 2016 - 10:02 AMSpringEmery is a very good tactician. His in game changes are usually sound. The Europa final showed that and Klopp failed to react to his tactical change until it was too late.
Key change he made was to drop Krychowiak deeper and pushed the fullbacks further up. That effectively stretched Pool's midfield wide the limited the effect of Klopp's pressing game.
As said before, Emery is looking at a step up. To manage a team that can be in the UCL consistently. If Arsenal approach him, I believe he will be tempted. Everton? Sorry�
Good points bro, the thing is some Managers are just good for mid table teams and can't step up.
Can Emery step up, I'm not sure but natural for him to want to prove himself.
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Good example of a Manager who couldn't make the step up is Moyes though this maybe a tad unfair given the situation following Fergie's retirement. Moyes is a good Mgr but don't think he will ever make the grade of a top team Mgr IMO. Emery my gut feel is the same.
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Managing a team of superstars and a club with high expectations, fans who are demanding is a different ball game altogether. It's a tough job and if you read Dudek's autobiography and Zlatan's quotes, u will be amazed by some of JM's methods which gives insights into how a top Mgr works!�
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http://www.express.c...fer-news-gossip
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http://www.punditare...-jose-mourinho/
26 May 2016 - 10:56 AMOsprey23Good points bro, the thing is some Managers are just good for mid table teams and can't step up.
Can Emery step up, I'm not sure but natural for him to want to prove himself.
Good example of a Manager who couldn't make the step up is Moyes though this maybe a tad unfair given the situation following Fergie's retirement. Moyes is a good Mgr but don't think he will ever make the grade of a top team Mgr IMO. Emery my gut feel is the same.
Managing a team of superstars and a club with high expectations, fans who are demanding is a different ball game altogether. It's a tough job and if you read Dudek's autobiography and Zlatan's quotes, u will be amazed by some of JM's methods which gives insights into how a top Mgr works!
http://www.express.c...fer-news-gossip
http://www.punditare...-jose-mourinho/
The manager has to test himself before we know he can or cannot take the step up. My point is Emery should not take up the Everton job to test as it is a step down, not up.
Thanks for the links. Every top coach will have their way to deal with players and most of the time, their personality will dictate the approach. Be amazed by JM? Always I have been. LOL
26 May 2016 - 11:09 AMOsprey23Milan confirmed not keeping Balo.
Hopefully won't be too difficult shifting him. Don't think Klopp is interested to work on him
https://www.theguard...se-super-league
26 May 2016 - 01:27 PMOsprey23OT a bit but this Guardian article is interesting.
Dissecting the accounts of the 20 EPL at the end of last season.
https://www.theguard...down-david-conn
Liverpool top the profit before tax figure. Surprisingly
26 May 2016 - 01:58 PMOsprey23 26 May 2016 - 04:49 PMOsprey23Mario Gotze agreed a �175,000-a-week deal to join Liverpool last week before he switched agents, according to Kicker. Gotze was on the verge of a sensational transfer to Liverpool until he changed representatives on Monday. A �19 million move to #LFC had been agreed by Gotze�s former agents Sports Total that would have lifted his wages to an annual �9.1million.
Apparently, Liverpool are shocked to be informed about the drastic uturn from Gotze.
26 May 2016 - 04:57 PMScionif I'm Jose Mourinho, I will go manage a German club or French club
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win all the major trophies in each league (already won the titles in England, Italy, Spain and Portugal)
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then manage an international team to World Cup
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and become the greatest manager in football history
26 May 2016 - 05:09 PMSpringApparently, Liverpool are shocked to be informed about the drastic uturn from Gotze.
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I'm also shocked cos�looks likely Gotze will not get into the Bayern first X1.
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http://www.channelne...fi/2818758.html
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So why would he want to stay being a current German International at the peak of his career? One possibility is that Pool not his preferred choice but can't be otherwise he wouldn't have agreed terms.
Other possibility I can think of�is he wants to leave on a free next season to get a big payday but he will likely waste one whole season just to achieve this which is not worth it IMO.
26 May 2016 - 05:18 PMBacteria83Think he aiming to do well in euro to either find a better club or force his way back to the team. If he perform well and avoid injury it maybe a gd calculated risk.
26 May 2016 - 06:04 PMSpringJohn Hartson believes Arsenal should buy another striker to give Giroud some competition.
He also points out rightfully that Wenger won't buy players which he feels are similar to what he already has so as�to allow his younger players to go through.�That's why he didn't buy Fabregas back to allow Coq, Ramsey and gang to step up. �
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Which goes nicely into something I always fail to understand ie Why do Gunners fan boo Fabregas when it is Arsenal who doesn't want him and surely he has the right to earn a living elsewhere right??
If he turned down Arsenal for the riches at Chelsea than fair enough, strange these Emirates faithful.........
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26 May 2016 - 06:48 PMBismarckSunmary of the Gotze saga.
Seems like he isn't sure what he wants or the family (father is now the agent) has decided for him.
My take is that BVB want to take him back next summer as a free agent and that's his preferred destination as well.
He has been urged to leave by the club.
26 May 2016 - 06:50 PMSash1401Apparently, Liverpool are shocked to be informed about the drastic uturn from Gotze.
since he has no heart to join pool, I guess its time for klopp to move on to look for other players who wanna join pool nt becoz of ucl or anything, but juz becoz he wanna play for klopp n pool
26 May 2016 - 07:27 PMOsprey23Representatives of Shakhtar have confirmed to ESPN Brasil that they've rejected a �12.5m bid from Tottenham for Marlos. They want �25m
26 May 2016 - 08:25 PMOsprey23since he has no heart to join pool, I guess its time for klopp to move on to look for other players who wanna join pool nt becoz of ucl or anything, but juz becoz he wanna play for klopp n pool
To be fair to him, I think he does want to join. I think the father is the issue.
27 May 2016 - 06:19 AMOthelloApparently, Liverpool are shocked to be informed about the drastic uturn from Gotze.
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still plenty of fishes out there�
27 May 2016 - 08:14 AMOsprey23Paul Joyce reported that Pool are after Mane. Andy Hunter as well.
https://www.theguard...pton-sadio-mane
Looks like Southampton is still a favourite shopping site
Personal take, a pacy right wingman is always the priority for Klopp. Missing out on first choice Dembele to BVB. Quite a few names on that list and Mane could be one of them. Pursuing him has got nothing to do with Gotze. Mentioned before, Gotze is not and never a priority for Klopp.
Edited by Osprey23, 27 May 2016 - 08:27 AM.
27 May 2016 - 08:24 AMScionApparently, Liverpool are shocked to be informed about the drastic uturn from Gotze.
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others want to be big fish in small pond....
27 May 2016 - 10:02 AMSpringFA Cup Quarter Finals replays to be scrapped from next season onwards.
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Good compromise I feel cos Quarter Finals normally clash with UCL�k/o rounds and creates potential congestions for the top clubs and fixture backlogs. Man U v West Ham replay this year was delayed and think clashed with UCL date and not sure if FA was fined for this cos UEFA got a stupid rule that if UEFA competitions on, no domestic top tier games are allowed to be played on those dates.�
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Could also spell a move towards a Winter break eventually which EPL sorely lacks.
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http://www.bbc.com/s...otball/36393608
27 May 2016 - 10:13 AMGalantspeedzJohn Hartson believes Arsenal should buy another striker to give Giroud some competition.
He also points out rightfully that Wenger won't buy players which he feels are similar to what he already has so as�to allow his younger players to go through.�That's why he didn't buy Fabregas back to allow Coq, Ramsey and gang to step up. �
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Which goes nicely into something I always fail to understand ie Why do Gunners fan boo Fabregas when it is Arsenal who doesn't want him and surely he has the right to earn a living elsewhere right??
If he turned down Arsenal for the riches at Chelsea than fair enough, strange these Emirates faithful.........
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27 May 2016 - 10:35 AMSpring�
I've read countless reports that it was Arsenal who don't want Fabregas and even the newspaper report you provided states that:
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But Starsport understands Fabregas' first option WAS a second stint with the Gunners, the club he first joined at 16.
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Wenger as usual good with words and if you read carefully he never said Fab turned down Arsenal but instead said:
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"I believe his decision was already made," said Wenger.
"I personally believe that deal was done a long time ago, early 2014. I didn't speak to him directly.
"I was informed that he might go to Chelsea, but when I was informed I thought the deal was already done."
Pressed on whether he had rejected the chance to re-sign Fabregas, Wenger added: "We will have to discuss that one day.
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Sounds pretty clear to me who rejected who.
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If Chelsea fans had the same logic, Petr Cech should be booed by them since he chose to join Arsenal but didn't see that happening when he returned to SB in an Arsenal�shirt.�That one was pretty clear who chose who.
27 May 2016 - 10:53 AMGalantspeedzI've read countless reports that it was Arsenal who don't want Fabregas and even the newspaper report you provided states that:
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But Starsport understands Fabregas' first option WAS a second stint with the Gunners, the club he first joined at 16.
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Wenger as usual good with words and if you read carefully he never said Fab turned down Arsenal but instead said:
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"I believe his decision was already made," said Wenger.
"I personally believe that deal was done a long time ago, early 2014. I didn't speak to him directly.
"I was informed that he might go to Chelsea, but when I was informed I thought the deal was already done."
Pressed on whether he had rejected the chance to re-sign Fabregas, Wenger added: "We will have to discuss that one day.
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Sounds pretty clear to me who rejected who.
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If Chelsea fans had the same logic, Petr Cech should be booed by them since he chose to join Arsenal but didn't see that happening when he returned to SB in an Arsenal�shirt.�That one was pretty clear who chose who.
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i will not discount the fact that it is possible that Wenger has rejected Fabregas but there is also a possibility of Fabregas rejecting Arsenal... guess we have to wait for their book to come out....... And Fabregas insistence on leaving for Barca has already made the fans unhappy... this is followed by the move to Chelsea... double whammy...
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Petr Cech was different.. he had done all he can with Chelsea but because of Courtoise, he is not first choice anymore.... Petr Cech transfer will be similar to Ian Wright going to West Ham...�
27 May 2016 - 11:57 AMSpringi will not discount the fact that it is possible that Wenger has rejected Fabregas but there is also a possibility of Fabregas rejecting Arsenal... guess we have to wait for their book to come out....... And Fabregas insistence on leaving for Barca has already made the fans unhappy... this is followed by the move to Chelsea... double whammy...
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Petr Cech was different.. he had done all he can with Chelsea but because of Courtoise, he is not first choice anymore.... Petr Cech transfer will be similar to Ian Wright going to West Ham...�
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Before I get flamed by Gunners fans, just want to state clearly that I'm not flaming Arsenal nor their supporters.
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I don't like it when fans boo ex players and even ex Managers�unless:
1) they�downed tools to force a move.�eg Raheem Sterling
2) they�moved for more money but personally don't quite agree with this as that is their right though I can understand from a fan's point of view if they boo cos sort of traitor/Judas feel they may claim. Eg Ashley Cole
3) Moved to cross town rivals say Arsenal to Spurs, Pool to Everton etc. Eg Sol Campbell
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For the Fabregas case, I'm emphatic towards him cos:
1) He didn't down tools to force a move.
2) More money�I've not read�though�possible. I remember he�was publicly courted by Barca to go back and�Xavi (I think) forcing him to wear a Barca shirt during one of the National team gatherings and he is a Catalan so�choosing to go back to his�home club with�so much courting is hard to resist.
3) He didn't move to a cross town club**
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Towards the end of his�second Barca stint it was�obvious he was not first choice anymore�or at least not starting regularly and�from�most of the reports I gathered he wanted to go back to Arsenal but Wenger didn't want him which to be fair is the Mgr's prerogative so he went to Chelsea instead.�As such, I don't understand the rationale behind his booing at all.��
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**Going to Chelsea I don't consider as a cross town move cos Arsenal don't want him. Of course if Arsenal wants him and he chose Chelsea then that is different. Wenger would have said clearly if that was the case cos there were a lot of comments from Gunners fans on this and as usual chooses to deflect. Petr Cech move is a cross town move so falls into point 3.
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27 May 2016 - 12:31 PMGalantspeedz�
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I don't like it when fans boo ex players and even ex Managers�unless:
1) they�downed tools to force a move.�eg Raheem Sterling (for more money, and better chance of winning a trophy, nothing wrong)
2) they�moved for more money but personally don't quite agree with this as that is their right though I can understand from a fan's point of view if they boo cos sort of traitor/Judas feel they may claim. Eg Ashley Cole (for more money, this i fault wenger.. 5k difference nia knn, rvp to man u for more money.... nothing wrong in all this)
3) Moved to cross town rivals say Arsenal to Spurs, Pool to Everton etc. Eg Sol Campbell (same thing, move for better chance of trophy, nothing wrong)
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For whatever reason, money or trophies, i don't think footballers is wrong in making a move.... especially in a short career.....
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even the above 3 is not a good reason to boo.... hurt yes... but that's about all
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just that everyone threshold to boo is different........�
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27 May 2016 - 02:54 PMOsprey23Pep tells City bosses that he needs 8 new starters
I wonder how many starters Jose will need. Probably 9. Cannot lose to Pep on all counts
27 May 2016 - 03:00 PMSpringFor whatever reason, money or trophies, i don't think footballers is wrong in making a move.... especially in a short career.....
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even the above 3 is not a good reason to boo.... hurt yes... but that's about all
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just that everyone threshold to boo is different........�
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Precisely. Even the 3 reasons I listed were not exactly valid ones for fans to boo ex players.�
So what more for Fabregas who doesn't even qualify under those 3?
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You are right that we all have our thresholds for booing and so it's quite conclusive to me that�the majority of the Emirates faithful thresholds for booing is very low I'm afraid.
27 May 2016 - 03:03 PMOsprey23De Telegraaf reporting this morning that Marc Overmars is a leading candidate to become Everton's director of football.
Good move imo. After that reunite him with FdB. Wondering what is happening at Ajax
27 May 2016 - 03:26 PMKtglfcPep tells City bosses that he needs 8 new starters
I wonder how many starters Jose will need. Probably 9. Cannot lose to Pep on all counts�
Better change all the players ... maybe change 2 x11 players
27 May 2016 - 04:01 PMGalantspeedzPrecisely. Even the 3 reasons I listed were not exactly valid ones for fans to boo ex players.�
So what more for Fabregas who doesn't even qualify under those 3?
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You are right that we all have our thresholds for booing and so it's quite conclusive to me that�the majority of the Emirates faithful thresholds for booing is very low I'm afraid.
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yes they are... i won't deny that....most felt he left when arsenal needed them most....... he left at the wrong time and joined at a even worse time, when JM was in charge....... may be slightly better if CA was in charge instead.....�
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27 May 2016 - 04:30 PMOsprey23Just heard that Zielinski deal might be off.
If true, Klopp really is tough in holding valuation. �3m difference he also won't give in.
27 May 2016 - 04:38 PMGalantspeedzJust heard that Zielinski deal might be off.
If true, Klopp really is tough in holding valuation. �3m difference he also won't give in.�
sounds like wenger lol
27 May 2016 - 04:40 PMOsprey23Chelsea are confident of resigning Lukaku amid interest from PSG.
Everton holding for �60m
27 May 2016 - 04:53 PMOsprey23 27 May 2016 - 05:06 PMOsprey23i am hoping that it is due to the availability of another target that caused itsounds like wenger lol
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27 May 2016 - 05:09 PMGalantspeedzi am hoping that it is due to the availability of another target that caused it
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likely a 16 or 17yr old�
27 May 2016 - 05:30 PMTonyhawk2�
Congrats!�
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Man U and Jose truly deserve each other!
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Dream Football at the theatre of dreams!
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27 May 2016 - 05:32 PMKtglfc
Open secret .. And now the deal done ...
BPL is the league to attract the best managers in the world :)
27 May 2016 - 05:33 PMSpring 27 May 2016 - 05:38 PMGalantspeedzCongrats!�
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Man U and Jose truly deserve each other!
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Dream Football at the theatre of dreams!
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not yet........ still have zlatan..........
27 May 2016 - 05:44 PMOsprey23Last check is 20likely a 16 or 17yr old
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27 May 2016 - 05:56 PMSpring 27 May 2016 - 08:41 PMBismarckAston Villa is going to appoint Roberto Di Matteo as their new manager. Another ex Champions League winning manager in the Championship
27 May 2016 - 08:44 PMBismarckMeantime, Si Gin Na is very nervous now about his future under Pep. So happy for him�
�Indeed he chose the right path to go to Man City
27 May 2016 - 08:58 PMKtglfcJM's first signing at OT.........
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That's a very nice bus
27 May 2016 - 11:28 PMJamesc 27 May 2016 - 11:37 PMJamescJM smile like strike lottery!!
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36M over 3 years.
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Better than striking lottery.
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27 May 2016 - 11:44 PMJamescsince he has no heart to join pool, I guess its time for klopp to move on to look for other players who wanna join pool nt becoz of ucl or anything, but juz becoz he wanna play for klopp n pool
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We don't need Gotze. We are well stocked with No 10s.
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We have LFC at LFC. Lallana, Firmino and Coutinho.
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The last thing we need is another slow No 10.
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We need pacy wide men.
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28 May 2016 - 07:40 AMKtglfcWe don't need Gotze. We are well stocked with No 10s.
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We have LFC at LFC. Lallana, Firmino and Coutinho.
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The last thing we need is another slow No 10.
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We need pacy wide men.
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Its all the papers linking up lah ... don't really see we need a slow and injury-prone guy ...
28 May 2016 - 10:48 AMOsprey23Agree with most that Gotze is not priority but the fact is that we have offered him a deal which he had agreed but subsequently uturned.
Latest I am hearing is that the issue is between Gotze and Bayern over loyalty bonus. If Gotze took the offer then, he will lose the payout. That's why he sacked the agent for not advising him correctly.
So now they are forcing Bayern's hand to transfer list him.
28 May 2016 - 11:31 AMToothiewabbitJust heard that Zielinski deal might be off.
If true, Klopp really is tough in holding valuation. �3m difference he also won't give in.
Attaboy!
JM smile like strike lottery!!
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Think this is the club he truly pined after.
28 May 2016 - 09:22 PMOsprey23According to L'�quipe, Mamadou Sakho will receive no further punishment because the contents of the fat burning product was not on UEFA's list of banned substances.
It also reported that Sakho can now be selected for the French squad.
Hoping that they are right.
28 May 2016 - 09:27 PMBismarckAccording to L'�quipe, Mamadou Sakho will receive no further punishment because the contents of the fat burning product was not on UEFA's list of banned substances.
It also reported that Sakho can now be selected for the French squad.
Hoping that they are right.�
If true then no need to buy another centre back as replacement.�
Edited by Bismarck, 28 May 2016 - 09:28 PM.
28 May 2016 - 10:25 PMOsprey23Echo reported this. Be mindful that source is still from L'EquipeIf true then no need to buy another centre back as replacement.
http://www.liverpool...-ahead-11398710
Not sure if there will be a new CB being signed. Tah, Sule and Bartra are all being looked at.
Telegraph has a clearer report here.
http://www.telegraph...y-at-euro-2016/
Edited by Osprey23, 28 May 2016 - 10:33 PM.
28 May 2016 - 10:40 PMBismarckEcho reported this. Be mindful that source is still from L'Equipe
http://www.liverpool...-ahead-11398710
Not sure if there will be a new CB being signed. Tah, Sule and Bartra are all being looked at.
Telegraph has a clearer report here.
http://www.telegraph...y-at-euro-2016/�
With Skrtel leaving and Toure contract not renewed, we will have Lorven, Sakho, Matip and Gomez as our 4 centre backs. No Europe means less games so we dont really need too many experience centre back. If Lucas is not sold he can be call upon when needed.�
28 May 2016 - 11:16 PMOsprey23Agree with you.With Skrtel leaving and Toure contract not renewed, we will have Lorven, Sakho, Matip and Gomez as our 4 centre backs. No Europe means less games so we dont really need too many experience centre back. If Lucas is not sold he can be call upon when needed.
But if Tah is really available, we should go all out for him. Tah-Gomez partnership can be the future pairing for us.
29 May 2016 - 02:22 AMCivic2000Hull City secured promotion to EPL with 1 - 0 win over Sheff Wed in Championship play-off.
29 May 2016 - 05:45 AMBacteria83Congrats to Real madrid. Great game for the neutral except for pepe playing acting. Diego simeone really gd tactically, his well drill team literally run till RM flat �
29 May 2016 - 08:38 AMOsprey23Feel for Torres. Want him to win it....Congrats to Real madrid. Great game for the neutral except for pepe playing acting. Diego simeone really gd tactically, his well drill team literally run till RM flat
29 May 2016 - 09:03 AMKtglfcCongrats to Real madrid. Great game for the neutral except for pepe playing acting. Diego simeone really gd tactically, his well drill team literally run till RM flat �
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RM players, some like Bale, all having cramps ...
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Oh well, in the end, penalties settled the game ...
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Back to Euro now ...
29 May 2016 - 09:06 AMOsprey23Gabon manager Jorge Costa: "(Pierre-Emerick) Aubameyang has asked not to be selected because he is changing clubs."
Not sure where he is heading to but definitely going for big money
29 May 2016 - 11:16 AMBismarckThere is only so much Simeone can do to close the gap and the lost to Real Madrid may mean its time he leaves and look for a new challenge.�
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29 May 2016 - 11:46 AMcashcowThere is only so much Simeone can do to close the gap and the lost to Real Madrid may mean its time he leaves and look for a new challenge.�
This guy is a street fighter coach who can do great wonders with limited resources. Definitely not naive and better than JM or many more established coaches in certain respects.
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But sometimes like the past 2 finals with RM, the stars are not well aligned for whatever reasons. You can see the waterfall of tears from so many Atletico fans who want to break the losing streak so much. That's life I suppose.
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He will not give up until he achieve the holy grail, that's fo sure.
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Deep respect for this guy.
29 May 2016 - 11:54 AMOsprey23Man City want to sign Marc-Andre ter Stegen (24) but Barcelona won't listen to any offers. The German player has an 80M buyout fee. [md]
Even Pep they also won't give face I think. �80m is a crazy fee. Don't thick City despite their wealth will trigger it.
29 May 2016 - 12:44 PMSpringMan City want to sign Marc-Andre ter Stegen (24) but Barcelona won't listen to any offers. The German player has an 80M buyout fee. [md]
Even Pep they also won't give face I think. �80m is a crazy fee. Don't thick City despite their wealth will trigger it.
Even Manuel Neuer not worth �80m. Think at most Neuer worth �50m and Stegen probably half of that!
If desperate can pay abit more but that's all. Petr Cech �11m doesn't look like a steal but more of a robbery haha 30 May 2016 - 09:17 AMbummyRead a lot Poo's fan singing different tune now about gotze... it simply hilarious.....
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cant be more funnie than old toilet fans singing about Moanrino
30 May 2016 - 09:22 AMGetzsfvcant be more funnie than old toilet fans singing about Moanrino
nahh... moanrino just get under poo skin again... as he deprived poo of the title. now dats hilarious... but we go again...�
30 May 2016 - 09:28 AMOsprey23Different tunes? Since when?Read a lot Poo's fan singing different tune now about gotze... it simply hilarious.....
From start already said he isn't priority and Klopp would only want him if Bayern is reasonable with their asking price. Everything according to plan until the Gotze's family decided that they want more money from Bayern.
The deal is definitely not dead.
Yup, the song about "Mourinho is a c**t" will come in handy again probably in the 3rd year when they look to change manager again.cant be more funnie than old toilet fans singing about Moanrino
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30 May 2016 - 09:30 AMGetzsfvDifferent tunes? Since when?
From start already said he isn't priority and Klopp would only want him if Bayern is reasonable with their asking price. Everything according to plan until the Gotze's family decided that they want more money from Bayern.
The deal is definitely not dead.not you bro. saying generally in my office especially .. cheers
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Yup, the song about "Mourinho is a c**t" will come in handy again probably in the 3rd year when they look to change manager again.Please, his name is Maureen, so yeh, u might be rite there... muahahaha�
30 May 2016 - 10:02 AMSciontbh, I dun think Gotze will ever reach the heights of Messi (and CR7)... he will�probably be�same level as Hazard
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for those players under 25, Neymar is the one who looks to take over as the best player in the world in the next few years...
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Low: I don't regret telling Gotze to outshine Messi��The coach told the midfielder to prove he can outshine the Argentine before he scored the World Cup winning goal and he maintains it has not put him under too much pressure�Germany boss Joachim Low says he does not regret telling Mario Gotze to show the world he is better than Lionel Messi.
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The 23-year-old's development has somewhat stalled�ever since he scored the winning goal in the final of the 2014 World Cup against Messi's�Argentina, as he has struggled to cement his place in Bayern Munich's first team due to injury problems and a lack of form.
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Low admitted after that triumph in Brazil that he had told Gotze to prove he is�"better than Messi and can decide the World Cup", but he denies that such comments have put the former Borussia Dortmund man under undue pressure to perform ever since.
"Mario is a player with incredible abilities," he said on Saturday. "For a player after such a tournament like the World Cup 2014 to sometimes experience�a drop is not unusual."The I said to him 'Show the world�that you are better than Messi',�I�don't see this as a mistake. I do not regret it. I think Mario can handle it."
�Gotze was heavily linked with a transfer to Liverpool before stating that he was eager to stay at the Allianz Arena and fight for his place under new head coach Carlo Ancelotti.
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Low, despite�previously suggesting�that a new challenge could benefit Gotze's career, says he has no interest in further�discussing the attacking midfielder's future plans at club level.
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"I am no�longer interested in the topic of Bayern Munich or his intentions for transfers. What interests me now is the performance," he said.
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Germany take on Slovakia in a Euro 2016 warm-up match in Augsburg on Sunday.
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30 May 2016 - 10:10 AMTonyhawk2
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30 May 2016 - 10:30 AMBruisedlee
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Hahahaha! Now they will sing "Fug me, Mourinho!" ..
30 May 2016 - 10:39 AMWoeiSongKehJM smile like strike lottery!!
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Of cause!!! �
Did you read on the amount he will get for being Utd manager.
This guy is a street fighter coach who can do great wonders with limited resources. Definitely not naive and better than JM or many more established coaches in certain respects.
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But sometimes like the past 2 finals with RM, the stars are not well aligned for whatever reasons. You can see the waterfall of tears from so many Atletico fans who want to break the losing streak so much. That's life I suppose.
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He will not give up until he achieve the holy grail, that's fo sure.
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Deep respect for this guy.
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I consider him to be quite a legend in the manager rank.
With the kind of resource he have, he still manage to keep the team to fight for top honors almost every season
30 May 2016 - 10:43 AMSpringOf cause!!! �
Did you read on the amount he will get for being Utd manager.
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JM is a rich man so don't think money is his motivating factor though it helps of course.
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For once in his Managerial career, he faced failure at Chelsea last season n was sacked. Mr Ego is hell bent on proving a point that he is not past it and not a 3yr only Mgr. Where better than to prove himself at OT with the clubs resources and history.
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Achieve silverware, getting back into UCL, promoting youth, attacking football will be his objectives.
First 2 should be in his DNA but the last 2 is questionable and IMO, if history repeats itself and he just achieves the first 2 objectives and departs after 3 years like all his previous appointments, he will not go down in history as a managerial legend but instead just short of it.
30 May 2016 - 12:36 PMcashcowWow wow. Argentinian Gonzalo Higuain of Napoli is open to Liverpool move to play under Klopp.
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Serious news development from Daily Mirror.
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http://www.espnfcasi...-liverpool-move
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30 May 2016 - 12:37 PMWoeiSongKehJM is a rich man so don't think money is his motivating factor though it helps of course.
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Achieve silverware, getting back into UCL, promoting youth, attacking football will be his objectives.
First 2 should be in his DNA but the last 2 is questionable and IMO, if history repeats itself and he just achieves the first 2 objectives and departs after 3 years like all his previous appointments, he will not go down in history as a managerial legend but instead just short of it.
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Getting back to Chelsea for the sack is for sure 1 of the reason as he seems to be a petty man to me.
However the $$ is confirm 1 of the +ve factor for him to take the job�
30 May 2016 - 12:40 PMSpringWow wow. Argentinian Gonzalo Higuain of Napoli is open to Liverpool move to play under Klopp.
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Serious news development.
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Read this but I seriously doubt Pool will pay anywhere near the going rate for Higuain.
This guy hit and miss cos he is a marque striker but he misses a lot of chances so I would say he is not exactly prolific and in the fast paced EPL, I feel he may not get as many chances as in Italy.
30 May 2016 - 12:46 PMOsprey23Not on wanted list. Agent using us to drum up interest.Wow wow. Argentinian Gonzalo Higuain of Napoli is open to Liverpool move to play under Klopp.
Serious news development from Daily Mirror.
http://www.espnfcasi...-liverpool-move
http://www.mirror.co...ransfer-8077110
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30 May 2016 - 12:54 PMPicnic06-Biante15Wow wow. Argentinian Gonzalo Higuain of Napoli is open to Liverpool move to play under Klopp.
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30 May 2016 - 12:56 PMOthelloWow wow. Argentinian Gonzalo Higuain of Napoli is open to Liverpool move to play under Klopp.
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30 May 2016 - 02:57 PMOsprey23Just 4 days ago, Football Italia ran this piece.
http://app.football-...allitalia-84956
�94m ladies and gentlemen. And he is surprised why Liverpool not making a move
30 May 2016 - 03:26 PMGizmoreJust 4 days ago, Football Italia ran this piece.
http://app.football-...allitalia-84956
�94m ladies and gentlemen. And he is surprised why Liverpool not making a move�
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30 May 2016 - 10:03 PMOsprey23If Arsenal are to activate the clause in Ricardo Rodriguez's Wolfsburg contract then it appears that Arsenal is going all out to give Wenger a grand farewell.
Gutted. My favourite LB
30 May 2016 - 11:01 PMOsprey23Liverpool along with Man United, Villarreal and Fiorentina interested in Marc Bartra - prefers Liverpool or Villarreal. [l'esportiu]
As mentioned, Bartra, Tah and Sule are CB targets Pool are looking at. Sule had ruled himself out for a move, committing himself to Hoffenheim. Tah will cost a bit while Bartra has a �8m release clause that can be triggered due to his lack of playing time at Barcelona.
31 May 2016 - 07:48 AMOsprey23Big news coming out from Spain. Monchi is leaving Sevilla.
31 May 2016 - 07:57 AMHosayboGoing to??????
31 May 2016 - 09:04 AMOsprey23Dunno yet. He said he has yet to agree on a new job. Only said he is leaving Sevilla on personal reasons.Going to??????
I only know FSG wants a DoF structure. :)
31 May 2016 - 09:23 AMOsprey23Looks like my initial info on Zielinski is correct. Deal is off as reported by Mondo Udinese. Claimed that Pool taking too long to agree fee with Udinese and relationship between the clubs were strained over the Jerome Sinclair move to Watford. (Udinese and Watford have same owner)
31 May 2016 - 09:30 AMFooblackDunno yet. He said he has yet to agree on a new job. Only said he is leaving Sevilla on personal reasons.
I only know FSG wants a DoF structure. :)�
definitely stirring a buzz amongst Pool fans. very good DoF on the continental stage.
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31 May 2016 - 10:10 AMWoeiSongKehLiverpool along with Man United, Villarreal and Fiorentina interested in Marc Bartra - prefers Liverpool or Villarreal. [l'esportiu]
As mentioned, Bartra, Tah and Sule are CB targets Pool are looking at. Sule had ruled himself out for a move, committing himself to Hoffenheim. Tah will cost a bit while Bartra has a �8m release clause that can be triggered due to his lack of playing time at Barcelona.�
For the amount I feel Pool should go with it, its a good bargain !!!�
31 May 2016 - 10:12 AMOthelloRumours is that he'll be going to OT?
31 May 2016 - 10:17 AMWoeiSongKehRumours is that he'll be going to OT?
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As long can make $$, Man Utd will be keen
(No offense to the fans but ever since the take over, it looks like its gg this way).
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31 May 2016 - 10:40 AMSpringRumours is that he'll be going to OT?
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My take is that Monchi is good at sniffing out value buys which is ideal for clubs who are on a budget eg Pool,�Everton, Southampton, maybe West Ham etc.�Obviously the Glazers would be happy to have him but seriously, can u be a DoF at OT to get value buys?�Just the name Manchester United will push up the price a few notches so don't think he is the ideal candidate for the role at OT.�
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He may prove�me wrong though.�United should get a Damian Comolli type of DoF.
As long can make $$, Man Utd will be keen
(No offense to the fans but ever since the take over, it looks like its gg this way).
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31 May 2016 - 10:50 AMOsprey23I will be very very surprise if Monchi ends up at Man Utd.
Read his interview I shared previously. You can sense that he detest the way some English clubs are doing transfers by throwing silly money around. Will he go to a club that is guilty of that? Unless he is tasked to change the model by Glazers. Even if that is possible, how would Mendes and Mourinho take it? Especially Mendes. He worked so hard to get Mourinho into the job. No way he will let Monchi spoil his plan.
31 May 2016 - 01:05 PMPicnic06-Biante15Going to??????
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31 May 2016 - 02:49 PMScionLiverpool along with Man United, Villarreal and Fiorentina interested in Marc Bartra - prefers Liverpool or Villarreal. [l'esportiu]
As mentioned, Bartra, Tah and Sule are CB targets Pool are looking at. Sule had ruled himself out for a move, committing himself to Hoffenheim. Tah will cost a bit while Bartra has a �8m release clause that can be triggered due to his lack of playing time at Barcelona.�
Bartra reminds me of Real Madrid's Pavon
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31 May 2016 - 03:02 PMOsprey23Mourinho eyeing Mouro Icardi.
31 May 2016 - 03:11 PMOsprey23Liverpool are continuing negotiations with Leicester over left-back Ben Chilwell. The Anfield club are confident of clinching a deal, but may have to pay �7 million for the player. [The Daily Telegraph]
We are confident about Zielinski and Gotze too. But did get them over the line for different reasons.
Hopefully this one will be different.
31 May 2016 - 03:59 PMBismarckLiverpool are continuing negotiations with Leicester over left-back Ben Chilwell. The Anfield club are confident of clinching a deal, but may have to pay �7 million for the player. [The Daily Telegraph]
We are confident about Zielinski and Gotze too. But did get them over the line for different reasons.
Hopefully this one will be different.�
This one I am quite confident.�
31 May 2016 - 05:53 PMOsprey23Morata admitted that there are tempting offers for him from EPL.
http://www.telegraph...ting-offers-fr/
Arsenal definitely one of them
31 May 2016 - 06:14 PMOsprey23West Ham & Southampton, are interested in signing Werder Bremen�Zlatko Junuzovic (Source - Kicker)
31 May 2016 - 06:44 PMBacteria83Poor mata, now speculating his exit. You come sg I bring you to go beat xiao ren.
31 May 2016 - 06:59 PMOsprey23Mourinho will approve the sales of Juan Mata and Daley Blind if Man Utd receive acceptable offers [sky sports]
Poor Mata...
31 May 2016 - 10:53 PMBismarckLooks like my initial info on Zielinski is correct. Deal is off as reported by Mondo Udinese. Claimed that Pool taking too long to agree fee with Udinese and relationship between the clubs were strained over the Jerome Sinclair move to Watford. (Udinese and Watford have same owner)
Seems like deal is done soon.
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01 June 2016 - 12:07 AMOsprey23To Pool or Napoli?Seems like deal is done soon.
Contradicting reports. Only Polish papers saying deal close to completion. Others saying deal is off
01 June 2016 - 08:13 AMOsprey23Pool reportedly close to signing Anderlecht youngster Samuel Bastien
http://readliverpool...ign-midfielder/
01 June 2016 - 08:17 AMPicnic06-Biante15Pool reportedly close to signing Anderlecht youngster Samuel Bastien
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The 'white' or the 'black' one ???
01 June 2016 - 08:29 AMSpringMr moneyball wants to moneyball his way out of his contract?
Looks like there are some rumours on Real n United going after Monchi which I still feel is not a good fit at these clubs, we shall see.....
http://www.dailymail...eal-Madrid.html
01 June 2016 - 08:33 AMOsprey23Reports say Sevilla have effectively forced Monchi to stay. They would only let him leave at the end of his current contract that will last till 2020. However, Monchi does have a release clause at �5m. Not difficult for clubs to pay that for his service.
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01 June 2016 - 08:42 AMOsprey23The one with darker skin tone :)The 'white' or the 'black' one ???
01 June 2016 - 09:30 AMGalantspeedzMorata admitted that there are tempting offers for him from EPL.
http://www.telegraph...ting-offers-fr/
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great!! buying a striker with worse record than Giroud, in a declining league.....
01 June 2016 - 09:40 AMOsprey23Don't worry bro, as said before, Real Madrid might keep him and even if they want to sell, will be to the highest bidder. Yet to know if Arsenal will go all out for him. Also depending also who else are in the mix, he might not choose Arsenal alsogreat!! buying a striker with worse record than Giroud, in a declining league.....
01 June 2016 - 09:45 AMGalantspeedzDon't worry bro, as said before, Real Madrid might keep him and even if they want to sell, will be to the highest bidder. Yet to know if Arsenal will go all out for him. Also depending also who else are in the mix, he might not choose Arsenal also
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i like him but not at 40m... giroud cost 10m but average about 20 goals a season... 82 goals out of 143 (first team) + 45 (subs) appearance is very decent...... not sure how many strikers in the top few leagues can match that.....
01 June 2016 - 04:27 PMPicnic06-Biante15Boro eyeing Pool defender Shrtel for 6 million pound ...
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01 June 2016 - 07:17 PMOsprey23Reliable information from UOL Esporte that Manchester Utd, Manchester City, Chelsea and Bar�a are in talks with PSG for Marquinhos. UOL adds that interested clubs would have to pay a fee close to �50m to sign Marquinhos. PSG see him as a natural successor to Thiago Silva. UOL Esporte says that Marquinhos has decided to leave PSG this summer, and his preference is to join Barcelona.
01 June 2016 - 09:46 PMOsprey23Mario G�tze turned down Liverpool because he thinks the club would be a backwards step. He hopes to join the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona and possibly Arsenal (SportBild)
Gotze certainly has high regards for Arsenal . Same level as the Spanish Giants. :P
01 June 2016 - 10:04 PMGalantspeedzMario G�tze turned down Liverpool because he thinks the club would be a backwards step. He hopes to join the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona and possibly Arsenal (SportBild)
Gotze certainly has high regards for Arsenal . Same level as the Spanish Giants. :P
Like the 2 Spanish clubs, UCL is a certainty....lol
This year may see a much closer fight though....
02 June 2016 - 12:59 AMOthelloMario G�tze turned down Liverpool because he thinks the club would be a backwards step. He hopes to join the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona and possibly Arsenal (SportBild)
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with his injury record, he go to RM or Barca sure die there. ..... better to go somewhere with lesser pressure and try to recover his rep.
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02 June 2016 - 08:40 AMOsprey23A lot of noise coming out from Gotze's camp ever since the change of agent. His father is running the show. We just sit back and enjoy.![]()
02 June 2016 - 09:54 AMFooblackA lot of noise coming out from Gotze's camp ever since the change of agent. His father is running the show. We just sit back and enjoy.
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02 June 2016 - 12:39 PMOsprey23 02 June 2016 - 01:55 PMOsprey23According to Kicker, Dortmund are interested in Liverpool targets Marc Bartra, Rapha�l Guerreiro and Emre Mor.
Hmm, at most 2 are serious target.
02 June 2016 - 02:04 PMPicnic06-Biante15According to Kicker, Dortmund are interested in Liverpool targets Marc Bartra, Rapha�l Guerreiro and Emre Mor.
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02 June 2016 - 02:10 PMBismarckLiverpool so used to it until numb .....
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02 June 2016 - 02:20 PMOsprey23Hehe, if losing Bartra means we will be forced to pay more for Tah, I don't mind.Liverpool so used to it until numb .....
Every time Pool interested in one, sure got rich clubs come and disturb ...
Mor's interest only reported by ESPN today. Yet to verify.
The other chap is not a serious target. The LB Klopp after is Chilwell.
02 June 2016 - 02:32 PMOsprey23Time to say goodbye?
Man Utd bracing themselves for the exit of their long serving player/coach/assistant manager - Ryan Giggs
02 June 2016 - 02:35 PMFooblackTime to say goodbye?
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02 June 2016 - 04:16 PMScionMario G�tze turned down Liverpool because he thinks the club would be a backwards step. He hopes to join the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona and possibly Arsenal (SportBild)
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but he must accept frequently being used in rotation or come off the bench (possibly for Neymar on the left forward position or Iniesta on the attacking mid)
02 June 2016 - 06:14 PM159erTime to say goodbye?
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Good for him. Doubt he will prosper under JM anyway. Go elsewhere build up his experience and see if he will get a shot at managing Utd in later part of his career.
02 June 2016 - 11:48 PMOsprey23PSG have been tracking Coutinho for some time. They've already approached his representatives. PSG have indicated they will launch a bid for Coutinho. However, they need to sell one of their non-EU players first. [Le10Sport]
03 June 2016 - 06:43 AMOsprey23Liverpool have stepped up their interest on Hector.
03 June 2016 - 07:35 AMShortySo will pool sell? At 40m n abv i will sell. Provided they can get a replacement. Cos pool is sorely lacking in the creativity dept. Without him, i don see anyone near his capability to create.
03 June 2016 - 08:16 AMOsprey23Besiktas offer �7million for Liverpool defender Martin Skrtel.
Not only PSG, 2 other clubs interested.So will pool sell? At 40m n abv i will sell. Provided they can get a replacement. Cos pool is sorely lacking in the creativity dept. Without him, i don see anyone near his capability to create.
Unless player forcing a move, else I see him in Klopp's plan.
03 June 2016 - 08:17 AMPicnic06-Biante15So will pool sell? At 40m n abv i will sell. Provided they can get a replacement. Cos pool is sorely lacking in the creativity dept. Without him, i don see anyone near his capability to create.
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03 June 2016 - 08:21 AMMrmilktoothSo will pool sell? At 40m n abv i will sell. Provided they can get a replacement. Cos pool is sorely lacking in the creativity dept. Without him, i don see anyone near his capability to create.
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03 June 2016 - 08:39 AMScionDortmund loses�key players in Ilkay Gundogan and Mats Hummels...
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03 June 2016 - 08:43 AMKtglfcDortmund loses�key players in Ilkay Gundogan and Mats Hummels...
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03 June 2016 - 09:11 AMOsprey23Next year Mkhitaryan will leave, on a freeDortmund loses key players in Ilkay Gundogan and Mats Hummels...
kena raped again, kena raped every year
03 June 2016 - 10:35 AMBismarckIn a very serious news, Everton wanted to sign up Koeman as manager and Monchi sporting director. If it really happens bro Os must�
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03 June 2016 - 11:23 AMGalantspeedzSo will pool sell? At 40m n abv i will sell. Provided they can get a replacement. Cos pool is sorely lacking in the creativity dept. Without him, i don see anyone near his capability to create.
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if you all keep selling your best players..... you all can rebuild forever........ look at arsenal paying the price.....
03 June 2016 - 11:35 AMShortyif you all keep selling your best players..... you all can rebuild forever........ look at arsenal paying the price.....
that's y i say only if they can get a replacement. by that i mean someone else who is on par or better than couti. not an up and coming young talent.
03 June 2016 - 11:49 AMBismarckthat's y i say only if they can get a replacement. by that i mean someone else who is on par or better than couti. not an up and coming young talent.
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03 June 2016 - 01:50 PMOthelloSo will pool sell? At 40m n abv i will sell. Provided they can get a replacement. Cos pool is sorely lacking in the creativity dept. Without him, i don see anyone near his capability to create.
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From the way I see, he is still 2-3 years away from David Silva level. When and If he reaches there, he will have no lack of suitors then. No need to be so kan jiong. And i personally think he have an affinity to Pool, so will not leave.... for the time being
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03 June 2016 - 04:23 PMScionSo will pool sell? At 40m n abv i will sell. Provided they can get a replacement. Cos pool is sorely lacking in the creativity dept. Without him, i don see anyone near his capability to create.
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03 June 2016 - 04:53 PMcashcowsell high buy high
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03 June 2016 - 05:22 PMLittle_princeOnly DDG can keep la. The rest all buay gan. Probably need to buy 10 starter plus a few subsPep tells City bosses that he needs 8 new starters
I wonder how many starters Jose will need. Probably 9. Cannot lose to Pep on all counts
Easy for you to say lah.Coutinho have to prove his worth first. He is an immense talent but still inconsistent, and he has time on his side. Joining impatient clubs on a HIGH fee will only add to the pressure ....
From the way I see, he is still 2-3 years away from David Silva level. When and If he reaches there, he will have no lack of suitors then. No need to be so kan jiong. And i personally think he have an affinity to Pool, so will not leave.... for the time being
in a way, Dortmund brought it upon themselves by always letting their star players' contract run down..... Left 2 years should offer new contract, if dowan sell them high high or let them rot. Their salary not that high anyway
Same as when bigger company MNC offer you big pay rise and higher position would you stay with your old SME company?
Sometimes footballer are also human. When we are in their shoe, we will also make the logical choice
03 June 2016 - 10:33 PMOsprey23Koeman they might have a chance. Monchi tough.In a very serious news, Everton wanted to sign up Koeman as manager and Monchi sporting director. If it really happens bro Os must
liao coz Monchi join the wrong Liverpool club
Latest from Sevilla is that Monchi claimed that he will not be exiting Sevilla by activating a clause in his contract. Not sure what he meant. He want to leave amicably or what someone to buy him out?
03 June 2016 - 10:58 PMOsprey23Dani Alves left Barcelona. I wonder who they would want as replacement :P
04 June 2016 - 12:04 AMScionDani Alves left Barcelona. I wonder who they would want as replacement :P
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04 June 2016 - 07:51 AMOsprey23Marc Bartra has joined Borussia Dortmund from Barcelona.
Tah please. Else extend Kolo
Confirmed approached from Pool:
Jonas Hector
Samuel Bastien
Mahmoud Dahoud
Breel Embolo
Edited by Osprey23, 04 June 2016 - 07:59 AM.
04 June 2016 - 07:56 AMOsprey23Zlatan to Man Utd gathering pace. Woody in talks with agent. A one year contract mooted
04 June 2016 - 08:13 AMOsprey23 04 June 2016 - 08:31 AMBismarck
Pretend to use take a break as an excuse and while 3 months into the break Liverpool make an offer "he couldn't refused". Sounds like someone?![]()
04 June 2016 - 09:16 AMOsprey23Didn't include Ben Chilwell and Gotze as they are widely known.Marc Bartra has joined Borussia Dortmund from Barcelona.
Tah please. Else extend Kolo
Confirmed approached from Pool:
Jonas Hector
Samuel Bastien
Mahmoud Dahoud
Breel Embolo
04 June 2016 - 09:50 AMOsprey23Milan is a very likely destination as well and a project that is worth trying out.Pretend to use take a break as an excuse and while 3 months into the break Liverpool make an offer "he couldn't refused". Sounds like someone?
04 June 2016 - 12:00 PMGalantspeedzO23, vardy to arsenal true?
04 June 2016 - 12:10 PML23O23, vardy to arsenal true?
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04 June 2016 - 12:25 PMMrmilktoothO23, vardy to arsenal true?
i hope vardy dont move... thai boss more power??
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04 June 2016 - 01:09 PMOsprey23Looks like It is true. Maybe Wenger feels that he is a safer bet over Morata.O23, vardy to arsenal true?
Vardy definitely fit the profile of a clinical striker but my only concern is how well he can transit from a counter attacking style to a more possession based one.
In any case, with Xhaka and Vardy, Wenger is just one CB away to complete his shopping. Stay away from Tah![]()
04 June 2016 - 01:43 PMbummyLooks like It is true. Maybe Wenger feels that he is a safer bet over Morata.
Vardy definitely fit the profile of a clinical striker but my only concern is how well he can transit from a counter attacking style to a more possession based one.
In any case, with Xhaka and Vardy, Wenger is just one CB away to complete his shopping. Stay away from Tahkeep tah tah tah, i also nvr hear him before.
So gd meh? so good other club sign liao lah
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04 June 2016 - 02:06 PMOthellokeep tah tah tah, i also nvr hear him before.
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04 June 2016 - 03:14 PMOsprey23keep tah tah tah, i also nvr hear him before.
So gd meh? so good other club sign liao lah
no pay high $ to club, no pay high $ to player, live in place no disco. who want come??
Nevermind, he is just another of my dream signing for Pool. Just like Firmino and Volland. Got one missed one.
Good or not really subjective. Different team looking at different type of CBs of various strength and weakness. I
Just feel that he is good for his age, the maturity of play and the physical size, which I feel is what Pool needs. Cannot always get bullied by tall burly strikers in the box.
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04 June 2016 - 03:22 PMBruisedleeDani Alves left Barcelona. I wonder who they would want as replacement :P
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04 June 2016 - 05:07 PMOsprey23Clyne is good. Mr Consistency in my opinion.Hopefully not Clyne ..
Sorry, if I think too highly of Pool's player
However, don't think he is at their level yet. So I think we are safe.![]()
Edited by Osprey23, 04 June 2016 - 05:08 PM.
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