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In car vehicle recorder part 49

  • 18 June 2012 - 09:26 AM
    Adrianli

    I wan to declare publicly that I'm not affiliated with this peep.

    But yeah, i started a thread on Papago! P0, P1 and P3.

    Its a good cam except that it doesnt have Parking Mode. But what it's good is that once you hit with accident, you can press a button that locked that portion of video (I think it's 1 minute before and after that accident). it is capable of locking up to 10 videos on accidents.



    Actually, should compare Papago with DOD-tec cameras instead. Since both :

    1) Dont have auto parking mode
    2) Made in Taiwan

    biggrin.gif

    As a driving recorder, these are great. As a surveillance recorder, get the koreans. Depends on one's needs.
  • 18 June 2012 - 09:31 AM
    Mazdaowner

    Actually, should compare Papago with DOD-tec cameras instead. Since both :

    1) Dont have auto parking mode
    2) Made in Taiwan

    biggrin.gif

    As a driving recorder, these are great. As a surveillance recorder, get the koreans. Depends on one's needs.


    True Adrian, I'll be getting it on my next trip to Taiwan. You want anything, let me know ok.
  • 18 June 2012 - 09:41 AM
    Kb27
    This is a great thread for discussion on car recorder.

    However, I would like to know why some sponsors are contravening rules and nothing is being done ?

    According to Sponsor guidelines:
    http://www.mycarforu...owtopic=2633802
    You are not allowed to post threads in other folders blatantly advertising your products/services.
  • 18 June 2012 - 09:44 AM
    Adrianli

    True Adrian, I'll be getting it on my next trip to Taiwan. You want anything, let me know ok.


    When are you going to Taiwan again??? My wife miss the pork chop at Wan Niang building basement!!!
  • 18 June 2012 - 09:46 AM
    Mazdaowner

    This is a great thread for discussion on car recorder.

    However, I would like to know why some sponsors are contravening rules and nothing is being done ?

    According to Sponsor guidelines:
    http://www.mycarforu...owtopic=2633802
    You are not allowed to post threads in other folders blatantly advertising your products/services.


    Very valid point made. Will take note from here onward. thumbsup.gif
  • 18 June 2012 - 09:47 AM
    Mazdaowner

    When are you going to Taiwan again??? My wife miss the pork chop at Wan Niang building basement!!!


    October. You wanna join me? How to bring back the pork chops? laugh.gif MU I cook one for her lah, ai mai?
  • 18 June 2012 - 09:49 AM
    Adrianli

    October. You wanna join me? How to bring back the pork chops? laugh.gif MU I cook one for her lah, ai mai?


    No lah, cannot buy back lah.

    If u going ur annual trip next year, we can plan for it. Oct tis yr cannot. Already making plans with fren to drive up to Penang.
  • 18 June 2012 - 09:51 AM
    Adrianli

    This is a great thread for discussion on car recorder.

    However, I would like to know why some sponsors are contravening rules and nothing is being done ?

    According to Sponsor guidelines:
    http://www.mycarforu...owtopic=2633802
    You are not allowed to post threads in other folders blatantly advertising your products/services.


    Yup, lots of car cam info to harvest from this thread.


    Sponser guidelines, up to admin n mod to enforce.
  • 18 June 2012 - 09:53 AM
    Mazdaowner

    No lah, cannot buy back lah.

    If u going ur annual trip next year, we can plan for it. Oct tis yr cannot. Already making plans with fren to drive up to Penang.


    Next year no problems, I'll let you know in advance.
  • 18 June 2012 - 09:58 AM
    Mazdaowner

    Yup, lots of car cam info to harvest from this thread.


    Sponser guidelines, up to admin n mod to enforce.


    Will discuss with admin wrt to this issue. Other sponsors
    don't seem to be doing it, have to be fair also. See what admin
    says about it.


  • 18 June 2012 - 10:17 AM
    Donut

    Will discuss with admin wrt to this issue. Other sponsors
    don't seem to be doing it, have to be fair also. See what admin
    says about it.


    Actually i had highlighted in one of my postings this in this very thread some time ago (before i became Mod), but no action taken. And now, i have the half the mind to close this thread. Be fair to other merchants.
  • 18 June 2012 - 10:20 AM
    Donut

    Nut, how much did you pay for this?


    i havent buy it yet, bro. there is a local distributor and they told me P3 will come in early July. Price is about S$350

    since u going to taiwan, can buy back? laugh.gif laugh.gif .

    I only need P1 model. Simple device. Local price about $240.

    Maybe once P3 comes in, price for P1 will drop...... ph34r.gif
  • 18 June 2012 - 10:30 AM
    Mazdaowner

    Actually i had highlighted in one of my postings this in this very thread some time ago (before i became Mod), but no action taken. And now, i have the half the mind to close this thread. Be fair to other merchants.


    Yes, made mention to Laser, biut closing it will not be a good idea, since the information here would be very useful to many cam users.
  • 18 June 2012 - 10:31 AM
    Mazdaowner

    i havent buy it yet, bro. there is a local distributor and they told me P3 will come in early July. Price is about S$350

    since u going to taiwan, can buy back? laugh.gif laugh.gif .

    I only need P1 model. Simple device. Local price about $240.

    Maybe once P3 comes in, price for P1 will drop...... ph34r.gif


    Ok, will be there in Oct. if you can wait. I whatapps you price when I'm there, if you ok, I'll buy it for you.
    I'm also going to get one for myself if the price is right.
  • 18 June 2012 - 10:35 AM
    Donut

    Yes, made mention to Laser, biut closing it will not be a good idea, since the information here would be very useful to many cam users.


    Too big to fail? laugh.gif laugh.gif
  • 18 June 2012 - 10:37 AM
    Mazdaowner

    Too big to fail? laugh.gif laugh.gif


    Yeah lor. laugh.gif
  • 18 June 2012 - 10:40 AM
    Donut

    Ok, will be there in Oct. if you can wait. I whatapps you price when I'm there, if you ok, I'll buy it for you.
    I'm also going to get one for myself if the price is right.


    i can wait, no problem. no rush for me.

    let me know the price. i will update any changes in local prices by then.

    For those who are curious about this Papago camera, you can get them from AAS. Go to any of their retail shops or see their website.


  • 18 June 2012 - 10:44 AM
    Adrianli

    i havent buy it yet, bro. there is a local distributor and they told me P3 will come in early July. Price is about S$350

    since u going to taiwan, can buy back? laugh.gif laugh.gif .

    I only need P1 model. Simple device. Local price about $240.

    Maybe once P3 comes in, price for P1 will drop...... ph34r.gif


    U should compare Papago P1 to DOD-tec GSE520 and Papago P3 to DOD-tec GSE550.

    These two prices in Taiwan are very yummy n competitive. DOD-tec agent in SG is ZMC now. If u interested, can speak to them.
  • 18 June 2012 - 10:44 AM
    Mazdaowner

    i can wait, no problem. no rush for me.

    let me know the price. i will update any changes in local prices by then.

    For those who are curious about this Papago camera, you can get them from AAS. Go to any of their retail shops or see their website.


    Ok, on, no problems. BTW MU you going or not? 30th. Go TCSS register if you going. Same pot luck as before.
  • 18 June 2012 - 10:45 AM
    Mazdaowner

    U should compare Papago P1 to DOD-tec GSE520 and Papago P3 to DOD-tec GSE550.

    These two prices in Taiwan are very yummy n competitive. DOD-tec agent in SG is ZMC now. If u interested, can speak to them.


    Oi! You want also or not? You let me know, still early.
  • 18 June 2012 - 10:53 AM
    Adrianli

    Oi! You want also or not? You let me know, still early.


    I can wait till next year lah. I have enough car cams at home to install in at least eight other cars!!! Shhhhhhhhh dont let the wife know. lipsrsealed.gif
  • 18 June 2012 - 10:56 AM
    Mazdaowner

    I can wait till next year lah. I have enough car cams at home to install in at least eight other cars!!! Shhhhhhhhh dont let the wife know. lipsrsealed.gif



    Ok. No need tell her also she know. laugh.gif laugh.gif
  • 18 June 2012 - 11:00 AM
    Donut

    I can wait till next year lah. I have enough car cams at home to install in at least eight other cars!!! Shhhhhhhhh dont let the wife know. lipsrsealed.gif


    you can set up survillence camera system for your home and neighbours'. Keep your neighbourhood safe. Town Council will love you. laugh.gif
  • 18 June 2012 - 11:12 AM
    Adrianli

    you can set up survillence camera system for your home and neighbours'. Keep your neighbourhood safe. Town Council will love you. laugh.gif


    No need lah. I am grateful to have wonderful neighbours on the same floor. No need to install any camera.
  • 18 June 2012 - 01:15 PM
    Chuppychup
    eh can check for those using the ITBitronicss cammie , I am looking to upgrade the memory card to 32gb. Shochong recommended me to get the transcend class 10. Went to sim lim ytd and noticed that the price is around 52$ for this. I saw Sandisk has class 10 32gb gging for $35.

    Does sandisk one function well on ITB ??

    Sidenote , kingston one is very cheap , $20 for Class 10 32gb 0_0
  • 18 June 2012 - 01:16 PM
    Mazdaowner

    eh can check for those using the ITBitronicss cammie , I am looking to upgrade the memory card to 32gb. Shochong recommended me to get the transcend class 10. Went to sim lim ytd and noticed that the price is around 52$ for this. I saw Sandisk has class 10 32gb gging for $35.

    Does sandisk one function well on ITB ??

    Sidenote , kingston one is very cheap , $20 for Class 10 32gb 0_0


    Gmarket selling cheaper, go take a look.
  • 18 June 2012 - 01:20 PM
    Shochong

    eh can check for those using the ITBitronicss cammie , I am looking to upgrade the memory card to 32gb. Shochong recommended me to get the transcend class 10. Went to sim lim ytd and noticed that the price is around 52$ for this. I saw Sandisk has class 10 32gb gging for $35.

    Does sandisk one function well on ITB ??

    Sidenote , kingston one is very cheap , $20 for Class 10 32gb 0_0

    Yes bro np for sandisk 32gb class 10 but don't use Kingston alot problem:)
  • 18 June 2012 - 01:23 PM
    Mazdaowner

    eh can check for those using the ITBitronicss cammie , I am looking to upgrade the memory card to 32gb. Shochong recommended me to get the transcend class 10. Went to sim lim ytd and noticed that the price is around 52$ for this. I saw Sandisk has class 10 32gb gging for $35.

    Does sandisk one function well on ITB ??

    Sidenote , kingston one is very cheap , $20 for Class 10 32gb 0_0

    http://list.qoo10.co...rd_auto_change=
  • 18 June 2012 - 02:01 PM
    Adrianli

    http://list.qoo10.co...rd_auto_change=


    Boss,

    Itronics use SD card not microSD. laugh.gif
  • 18 June 2012 - 02:04 PM
    Mazdaowner

    Boss,

    Itronics use SD card not microSD. laugh.gif


    Oso got lah. laugh.gif As in got sell SD card.
  • 18 June 2012 - 03:14 PM
    Cormie
    It would be a shame to close the thread as it has so much info. I did actually think it may have been Shochong's thread from the reaction to me asking a few generic questions about the device :P
  • 18 June 2012 - 03:28 PM
    Adrianli

    It would be a shame to close the thread as it has so much info. I did actually think it may have been Shochong's thread from the reaction to me asking a few generic questions about the device :P


    Its not his thread. This thread was started two yrs ago. With newer technology, the cameras are improving thus this long long thread.

    If u see where it started till now, u can see how the car cam has evolved.
  • 18 June 2012 - 03:35 PM
    Cormie
    Cool, so I'll ask my questions again on getting the right set up for iTronics ITB100HD to ensure important footage isn't overwritten and is LOCKED :)

    1) Is there absolutely any chance of recovering the footage even thought it was replaced with newer footage? Would a recovery specialist of recovery software help even though the card is full with new video?
    2) How can I ensure, even with a small card, this never happens again?
    3) Is there an "Emergency" button anywhere on the ITB-100HD as there was on the DRS1100 where if an incident occurs, even if there's no shock to your car (imagine you see somebody else hit into a cyclist for example) you can press the button and it will save that segment and not record back over it?
    4) What do I choose to ensure that shocks, emergencies etc are not recorded over ever, and the space they take up on the card can only be freed if I manually connect the card to the computer and delete the files?
    5) On the file tree list, there are the letters N, E or P beside each file. I guess N = Normal, E = Emergency and P = Parking. I have about 10 consecutive E files but no shock or emergency happened in any of the footage. How are these showing as E so and if they are showing as E, then the sensitivity must be too high, but even though they are saved as Emergency files, then if the sensitivity was too high, then it must have saved the incident where I crashed as an E file, but then recorded over it! I need to have it set so the E files are not recorded over, is this possible?

    So basically looking to have the sensitivity record only high shock events (going too fast over a speed bump for example is ok to save as a segment that can't be recorded over, but I don't want it so sensitive that it saves every tiny pothole I run over). I then want these events only deleted after I manually do so via the PC and have reviewed them and backed them up if necessary.

    I allocated 50% to Event file, 30% to normal and 20% to parking, but this is still uncertain for me, does this mean, if there's 5 hours of important events already saved, 3 hours of normal driving and 2 hours of parking, if another event occurs, it will record OVER one of the other events instead of taking up space allocated to normal? So in this case, it might be better to allocate 80% to event files?

    The DRS1100 simply left event files untouched and used the rest of the card continuously looping. You could leave it for 2 months before hooking it up to your pc and you'd still see events from weeks ago (low sensitivity). Is there a way to set the same with the ITB?

    I also remember the "format from unit" function being cited as a great feature, how can I be sure I don't do this by mistake?

  • 18 June 2012 - 03:41 PM
    Milleo
    Qn for Xavier: I parked my car while I am on holiday last week. Asked my bro to ran the engine very two days cos I am worried that my car wouldn't start if I leave it idle for the whole week (I have the Fine Vu installed). However, my bro only tried to start it on day 3 and it was totally dead. So I wonder how long will the remaining battery power last if Magix actually cut the power to the camera? I only have alarm that is active.
  • 18 June 2012 - 03:41 PM
    Mazdaowner

    It would be a shame to close the thread as it has so much info. I did actually think it may have been Shochong's thread from the reaction to me asking a few generic questions about the device :P


    The thread will not be closed.
  • 18 June 2012 - 03:45 PM
    Adrianli
    U can ask all u want, but only those who have the camera can help u. biggrin.gif Sorry I cant cos I dont own this camera.


    Shochong has been helpful in answering his customers enquiries.
  • 18 June 2012 - 03:49 PM
    Adrianli

    Qn for Xavier: I parked my car while I am on holiday last week. Asked my bro to ran the engine very two days cos I am worried that my car wouldn't start if I leave it idle for the whole week (I have the Fine Vu installed). However, my bro only tried to start it on day 3 and it was totally dead. So I wonder how long will the remaining battery power last if Magix actually cut the power to the camera? I only have alarm that is active.


    U would have to determine how much current ur stock setup is drawing. Cos Finevu cut off at 11.6V. Then ur alarm n other stuff will continue to draw until it is beyond its ability to start the car.

    So best is to disconnect if u are parking for a few days. Otherwise use external battery packs.
  • 18 June 2012 - 03:54 PM
    Cormie

    Shochong has been helpful in answering his customers enquiries.


    And mostly very helpful to me too which I appreciate greatly :) Just thought I repost the questions for anyone who can help ensure I never make such a mistake again!
  • 18 June 2012 - 03:56 PM
    Dankoo
    Try to ans your qns to the best of my knowledge:

    1) Is there absolutely any chance of recovering the footage even thought it was replaced with newer footage? Would a recovery specialist of recovery software help even though the card is full with new video? chances are low but if you keep writing on the same card, high chance it is not possible
    2) How can I ensure, even with a small card, this never happens again? As others has pointed out, swap cards..
    3) Is there an "Emergency" button anywhere on the ITB-100HD as there was on the DRS1100 where if an incident occurs, even if there's no shock to your car (imagine you see somebody else hit into a cyclist for example) you can press the button and it will save that segment and not record back over it? NO
    4) What do I choose to ensure that shocks, emergencies etc are not recorded over ever, and the space they take up on the card can only be freed if I manually connect the card to the computer and delete the files? I think this is not possible
    5) On the file tree list, there are the letters N, E or P beside each file. I guess N = Normal, E = Emergency and P = Parking. I have about 10 consecutive E files but no shock or emergency happened in any of the footage. How are these showing as E so and if they are showing as E, then the sensitivity must be too high, but even though they are saved as Emergency files, then if the sensitivity was too high, then it must have saved the incident where I crashed as an E file, but then recorded over it! I need to have it set so the E files are not recorded over, is this possible?
    From my exp, the threshold is pretty low (and you cannot change it) for Event, it triggers quite easily, you can set to insensitive
  • 18 June 2012 - 03:58 PM
    Dankoo

    I also remember the "format from unit" function being cited as a great feature, how can I be sure I don't do this by mistake?


    You need to hold the button down for a couple of secs...so its unlikely this will happen....
  • 18 June 2012 - 03:59 PM
    Cormie
    Thanks a lot for the information. That's quite unfortunate. I guess I assumed again that these would be basic functions of a car DVR so didn't even think to look into such functionality before buying. Guess I'll have to get a few spare cards and do much more regular back ups to PC!
  • 18 June 2012 - 04:29 PM
    Aventador

    Thanks a lot for the information. That's quite unfortunate. I guess I assumed again that these would be basic functions of a car DVR so didn't even think to look into such functionality before buying. Guess I'll have to get a few spare cards and do much more regular back ups to PC!


    I have been reading this thread since it started, and have learnt alot from it

    you have come into the thread suddenly with an ulterior motive

    every sentence you write is barbed and meant to criticise the itronics instead of really wanting more information.

    The basic function of a car DVR is to record the clearest possible image

    and for parking surveillance and night recording, the Itronics is the clearest in the market at this time


  • 18 June 2012 - 04:34 PM
    Chuppychup

    Boss,

    Itronics use SD card not microSD. laugh.gif



    Wahaha, thanks for the link bros ! But it seems like if buy micro sd they dun give the adapter huh ... if got adapter den can buy liao .... can use on Itronics and my note. hahaha
  • 18 June 2012 - 04:38 PM
    Cormie
    Why in the world would I do such a thing? I came into this thread looking for an upgrade to my DRS1100. The iTronics was said to be the absolute best available in car DVR so I bought 4 of them for my transport business! I then have an incident and find out by default, the emergency events are overwritten just as regular footage was overwritten on my DRS1100. I think it's fair to accept I'm a little disappointed that such an important function isn't available after spending so much money on a newer, more advanced device.

    I recorded an incident at night time with my DRS1100 in one of the vans and although it's only VGA quality, was dark and low quality, it was still enough to prove to the police a bus driver wasn't to blame for an incident which resulted in a cyclist being hit. This was only an observation from my van, I wasn't involved, only a witness with the video as evidence. As soon as it happened, I was able to press the emergency button which saved and locked this segment of video so it couldn't be recorded over, no matter what new footage was recorded to the card from that point on. With the iTronics ITB100HD, it seems that if you were involved in a serious collision and were for example, knocked unconscious and taken to hospital by ambulance, but yet the camera still happened to be recording, and with high sensitivity level, with the car put on the back of a bumpy recovery truck driving the car to a storage facility, could record over the incident after an hour on the back of the truck! This to me is a pretty big flaw and this would not be the case with the unit I had before.

    Hopefully something that can be resolved with a firmware upgrade?

    Edited by Cormie, 18 June 2012 - 04:48 PM.

  • 18 June 2012 - 04:40 PM
    Kiario

    Thanks a lot for the information. That's quite unfortunate. I guess I assumed again that these would be basic functions of a car DVR so didn't even think to look into such functionality before buying. Guess I'll have to get a few spare cards and do much more regular back ups to PC!



    actually, unless an accident happens or something worth stomping happens, why would you need to backup the data to the PC?


  • 18 June 2012 - 04:42 PM
    Adrianli

    Why in the world would I do such a thing? I came into this thread looking for an upgrade to my DRS1100. The iTronics was said to be the absolute best available in car DVR so I bought 4 of them for my transport business! I then have an incident and find out by default, the emergency events are overwritten just as regular footage was overwritten on my DRS1100. I think it's fair to accept I'm a little disappointed that such an important function isn't available after spending so much money on a newer, more advanced device.


    If u like the DRS1100 so much, I still have my DRS1100PRO with me. I can sell it to you, u pay for shipment.

    It is complete with original Toshiba 4G SD card. biggrin.gif How does 100pounds sounds??? biggrin.gif
  • 18 June 2012 - 04:54 PM
    Cormie
    Kiario, even just to look over a small incident. I do regular long distance journeys, on a tight time schedule around the country and could be driving for 12 hours at a time. If I record an incident in the first hour or two, with the DRS1100 I knew I could leave it record for days and weeks after and that segment of footage would still be there locked on the card. If it was really important, I'd hook it up to the PC after the 12 hour drive.

    With the iTronics, I'd need to either turn off the camera, use a back up card or get to a PC within say 2 hours (depending on card size), which is hassle!

    Adrianli, thanks for the offer, but I have 5 already!! :)
  • 18 June 2012 - 04:56 PM
    Cormie
    Also, I edited my above post with this which may have been missed but I feel it's an important point:

    I recorded an incident at night time with my DRS1100 in one of the vans and although it's only VGA quality, was dark and low quality, it was still enough to prove to the police a bus driver wasn't to blame for an incident which resulted in a cyclist being hit. This was only an observation from my van, I wasn't involved, only a witness with the video as evidence. As soon as it happened, I was able to press the emergency button which saved and locked this segment of video so it couldn't be recorded over, no matter what new footage was recorded to the card from that point on. With the iTronics ITB100HD, it seems that if you were involved in a serious collision and were for example, knocked unconscious and taken to hospital by ambulance, but yet the camera still happened to be recording, and with high sensitivity level, with the car put on the back of a bumpy recovery truck driving the car to a storage facility, could record over the incident after an hour on the back of the truck! This to me is a pretty big flaw and this would not be the case with the unit I had before.
  • 18 June 2012 - 04:59 PM
    Adrianli

    Adrianli, thanks for the offer, but I have 5 already!! :)


    But urs not working, mine 100% working. biggrin.gif
  • 18 June 2012 - 05:02 PM
    Cormie
    Hehe, I had to replace 3 of them, but still have 2 working, thanks anyway! :) iTronics is certainly a better unit in terms of quality etc, but I'm hoping the flaw of not locking such important events can be rectified with a firmware upgrade?
  • 18 June 2012 - 05:12 PM
    Aventador

    I recorded an incident at night time with my DRS1100 in one of the vans and although it's only VGA quality, was dark and low quality, it was still enough to prove to the police a bus driver wasn't to blame for an incident which resulted in a cyclist being hit.

    With the iTronics ITB100HD, it seems that if you were involved in a serious collision and were for example, knocked unconscious and taken to hospital by ambulance, This to me is a pretty big flaw and this would not be the case with the unit I had before.


    some more veiled barbs from you

    well I can tell you as a car dvr user, it is much more important to me to have clear night recording, than a feature that will help me when I am "knocked unconscious"

    anyway, why not lets put a stop to this once and for all, instead of you messing up this thread any further

    you have 4 units IT100 that you bought 'in Ireland' from an overseas supplier

    since you are so unhappy, I will buy them all from you and you can go back to your VGA quality car cams. provide your receipt and I will buy them for you for the full price you paid. we can make the necessary arrangements. I have friends staying in Ireland or my freight forwarders will do me a favor


  • 18 June 2012 - 05:20 PM
    Cormie
    I'm sorry but I haven't messed this thread up at all. I'm an iTronics user who has questions about the product and is disappointed to find out it doesn't have what I deem to be a pretty essential feature in a product that is advertised as being a "black box", black boxes traditionally being used for airline crashes. Genuine questions and concerns about the product and I'm being accused of all sorts.

    Thanks for the offer but I'll hold on to them for now and keep my fingers crossed for a firmware upgrade which allows segments to be locked.
  • 18 June 2012 - 05:44 PM
    Aventador

    I'm sorry but I haven't messed this thread up at all. I'm an iTronics user who has questions about the product and is disappointed to find out it doesn't have what I deem to be a pretty essential feature in a product that is advertised as being a "black box", black boxes traditionally being used for airline crashes. Genuine questions and concerns about the product and I'm being accused of all sorts.

    Thanks for the offer but I'll hold on to them for now and keep my fingers crossed for a firmware upgrade which allows segments to be locked.


    Let the forummers make their own judgement about you
  • 18 June 2012 - 05:50 PM
    Cormie
    As they please :)

    Does anyone know if such a feature could be implemented via a firmware upgrade? Also, is the firmware built into the software itself? I notice the firmware version is stated when you open the software, before putting an SD card in even. On the DRS1100, you had to download a file and put it in the root directory of the SD card, then update the unit. It's a lot handier if the firmware is indeed built into the software :) I see the date on the software I have is from January, I didn't realise the ITB100HD was out so long, maybe due an upgrade soon?
  • 18 June 2012 - 05:51 PM
    Shochong

    Let the forummers make their own judgement about you

    thumbsup.gif
  • 18 June 2012 - 05:52 PM
    Shochong

    some more veiled barbs from you

    well I can tell you as a car dvr user, it is much more important to me to have clear night recording, than a feature that will help me when I am "knocked unconscious"

    anyway, why not lets put a stop to this once and for all, instead of you messing up this thread any further

    you have 4 units IT100 that you bought 'in Ireland' from an overseas supplier

    since you are so unhappy, I will buy them all from you and you can go back to your VGA quality car cams. provide your receipt and I will buy them for you for the full price you paid. we can make the necessary arrangements. I have friends staying in Ireland or my freight forwarders will do me a favor

    thumbsup.gif
  • 18 June 2012 - 05:52 PM
    Shochong

    I have been reading this thread since it started, and have learnt alot from it

    you have come into the thread suddenly with an ulterior motive

    every sentence you write is barbed and meant to criticise the itronics instead of really wanting more information.

    The basic function of a car DVR is to record the clearest possible image

    and for parking surveillance and night recording, the Itronics is the clearest in the market at this time

    thumbsup.gif
  • 18 June 2012 - 05:54 PM
    Weihui
    Genuinely understand your situation but complaining on how ITB-100HD should have designed its firmware on file management is irrelevant in this forum since none of us (I doubt) is working for Itronics. It will be doubtful that any of their developer is surfing this forum let alone this thread. It will be more useful if direct the suggestion to them via email?

    To answer part of your questions:

    1) If you plan to drive for 6 hours (8GB only gives 3 hours of recording, since event and normal recording are divided into 50% respectively, you only have 4GB setup for event recording which translate to 1.5 hours), 1.5 hours of event should be sufficient or even very "eventful" for an ordinary journey.

    2) Due to the sensitivity of the ITB-100HD gyro sensor, it is recommended to set "less sensitive" in driving mode to prevent it from recording unwanted events like driving over pole holes or uneven road. 1.5 hrs of event recording with less sensitive shock sensor should give you plenty of room.

    3) The best practice is still remove the SD card after an event is happened to prevent overwritten. Some impact is so small that the ITB-100HD may not pick up after you set the sensitivity to less sensitive. Get yourself a duplicator (SD to HDD) or spare SD card is the safest.
  • 18 June 2012 - 05:57 PM
    Shochong

    Hehe, I had to replace 3 of them, but still have 2 working, thanks anyway! :) iTronics is certainly a better unit in terms of quality etc, but I'm hoping the flaw of not locking such important events can be rectified with a firmware upgrade?

    Give me your Ireland number,i will give u a call personally to clear your doubt even though ur not my customer.
  • 18 June 2012 - 06:27 PM
    Shochong

    Why in the world would I do such a thing? I came into this thread looking for an upgrade to my DRS1100. The iTronics was said to be the absolute best available in car DVR so I bought 4 of them for my transport business! I then have an incident and find out by default, the emergency events are overwritten just as regular footage was overwritten on my DRS1100. I think it's fair to accept I'm a little disappointed that such an important function isn't available after spending so much money on a newer, more advanced device.

    I recorded an incident at night time with my DRS1100 in one of the vans and although it's only VGA quality, was dark and low quality, it was still enough to prove to the police a bus driver wasn't to blame for an incident which resulted in a cyclist being hit. This was only an observation from my van, I wasn't involved, only a witness with the video as evidence. As soon as it happened, I was able to press the emergency button which saved and locked this segment of video so it couldn't be recorded over, no matter what new footage was recorded to the card from that point on. With the iTronics ITB100HD, it seems that if you were involved in a serious collision and were for example, knocked unconscious and taken to hospital by ambulance, but yet the camera still happened to be recording, and with high sensitivity level, with the car put on the back of a bumpy recovery truck driving the car to a storage facility, could record over the incident after an hour on the back of the truck! This to me is a pretty big flaw and this would not be the case with the unit I had before.

    Hopefully something that can be resolved with a firmware upgrade?

    Do u think u can press the emergency button if u are involved in a serious collison??? You can press the emergency button before u faint? Blackvue & finevu doesnt come with emergency button even with their latest model. Emergency button is so yesterday.
    Long hour drive? buy a bigger capacity card.

    Dont turn this thread into your own thread for u to complain about itronics for your own motives.
    Dont know the functions, learn from your mistake & stop blaming on file management design which is used throughout all popular brand of car dvr.
    Everyone has their limits, those who have follow closely on your comments know what u r up to, & will eventually voice out their unhappiness not for me nor for Itronics, but to ppl like u. I have even ppl calling up to ask me why u r trying to stir s--t here in the thread.

    I, for the 1st time as a sponsor, will type in this manner here. You really pushed the limits too far.
    I have helped answered queries for those with Blackvue even when they have not purchased from me, I am also more than willing to help u if your every sentence is not barbed like mentioned.

    As a consumer:
    You wan buy cheap from unauthorised source, yet complain because u have no knowledge with the item due to lack of coaching or english manual, dont blame product. Who knows if your unauthorised product even comes with the latest firmware?

    As a competitor:
    Resort to these method, u wont go far.

    Edited by Shochong, 18 June 2012 - 07:05 PM.

  • 18 June 2012 - 06:28 PM
    Cormie

    Genuinely understand your situation but complaining on how ITB-100HD should have designed its firmware on file management is irrelevant in this forum since none of us (I doubt) is working for Itronics. It will be doubtful that any of their developer is surfing this forum let alone this thread. It will be more useful if direct the suggestion to them via email?

    To answer part of your questions:

    1) If you plan to drive for 6 hours (8GB only gives 3 hours of recording, since event and normal recording are divided into 50% respectively, you only have 4GB setup for event recording which translate to 1.5 hours), 1.5 hours of event should be sufficient or even very "eventful" for an ordinary journey.

    2) Due to the sensitivity of the ITB-100HD gyro sensor, it is recommended to set "less sensitive" in driving mode to prevent it from recording unwanted events like driving over pole holes or uneven road. 1.5 hrs of event recording with less sensitive shock sensor should give you plenty of room.

    3) The best practice is still remove the SD card after an event is happened to prevent overwritten. Some impact is so small that the ITB-100HD may not pick up after you set the sensitivity to less sensitive. Get yourself a duplicator (SD to HDD) or spare SD card is the safest.


    Thanks a lot, that's very helpful. You're right too, I should indeed be directing my questions to iTronics directly. I think I will pop them off a mail with the suggestion!

    I've set each unit to be "less sensitive" now, but it even still logs closing the door as an emergency so I think it's still a little too sensitive but it can't be set to be any less sensitive so I'll just have to be aware of the limitations. I've received my delivery of 32GB Class 10 Transcend cards this morning in the post so will now have this as my main card in each unit and then keep the 8gb for backup if an event occurs with the 32GB card. Again it's unfortunate to need to do this but for the higher quality capture and other features, it's worth it I guess.

    Shochong, I'm a little wary of giving my number out in such a fashion through an internet forum. Are you wanting to call to clear doubt that what I'm saying is true, or that you want to advise me on keeping important events such as which you quoted, locked and safe and that it may be rectified with a firmware upgrade? I can PM you through my number anyway if you want?

  • 18 June 2012 - 07:01 PM
    Cormie

    Do u think u can press the emergency button if u are involved in a serious collison??? Blackvue & finevu doesnt come with emergency button even with their latest model. Emergency button is so yesterday.
    Long hour drive? buy a bigger capacity card.
    Everyone has their limits, even those who r following your comments will know what u r up to & stand out to voice out their unhappiness, not for me, for ppl like u.

    Dont turn this thread into your own thread for u to complain about itronics for your own motives.
    Dont know the functions, learn from your mistake & stop blaming on file management design which is used throughout all popular brand of car dvr.
    Everyone has their limits, those who have follow closely on your comments know what u r up to, & will eventually voice out their unhappiness not for me, but to ppl like u. I have even ppl calling up to ask me why u r trying to stir s--t here in the thread.

    I, for the 1st time as a sponsor, will type in this manner here. You really pushed the limit too far.

    As a consumer:
    You wan buy cheap, yet complain because u have no knowledge with the item due to lack of coaching or english manual, dont blame product.

    As a competitor:
    Resort to these method, u wont go far.


    No, in a serious collision, the shock sensor would mark the footage as an emergency and wouldn't record over it. I also gave a perfect example of how the emergency button can be useful.

    With regards the rest of your post, I'm perplexed. I have learned from my mistakes but I still feel this segment lock feature is important for a car blackbox.

    I bought cheap as warranty isn't worth the extra money for me being based in Ireland and I thought I could find English software easy enough, which thanks to some posters here, I did.

    You still seem to think I'm your competitor. Again, I must clarify, I'm a consumer with questions on a product I bought. Even if I was importing and selling these in Ireland, I still wouldn't be your competitor. The company I bought from on Ebay isn't your competitor either. I'm not in your target market.

    I PM'd you asking for your best price on 4 units shipped to Ireland, your price although understandable with warranty, support, local pick up, battery pack and all other benefits, was not worth the extra, to me, as I'm based in Ireland and can't take advantage of the extra benefits of buying from you. You then seemed to hold a grudge against me when I came looking for advice, on a car recorder thread, on the units I bought, from users of the same device, just because I didn't buy from you.

    This is going around in circles. I never mentioned about having bought the items cheaper elsewhere in the thread and thanked you for every bit of advice you gave to me. I simply asked questions related to the product software, firmware and features. You felt this was an opportunity to highlight that I would get this support direct from you if I bought from you, to promote the advantages of buying from you. I was only looking for advice from other users on how to use the products I bought. That is what forums are for. I don't think your doing yourself or your business any favours. I accepted that you couldn't assist me with letting me know where to get the English software, I didn't even ask you for it when you mentioned it via PM. I understand, please understand my situation too!
  • 18 June 2012 - 10:38 PM
    Laserjet
    All flaming threads removed.
    This takes up alot of my time.
    Therefore, next one to start flaming again will get banned.

    This thread is useful, and lets keep it that way.

  • 18 June 2012 - 10:41 PM
    Mazdaowner

    All flaming threads removed.
    This takes up alot of my time.
    Therefore, next one to start flaming again will get banned.

    This thread is useful, and lets keep it that way.


    Thanks Boss. sleep.gif
  • 18 June 2012 - 10:43 PM
    RadX

    All flaming threads removed.
    This takes up alot of my time.
    Therefore, next one to start flaming again will get banned.

    This thread is useful, and lets keep it that way.


    Steady boss!!!! Indeed this thread is too useful, considering the local occurences of late!
    Keep it clean!
  • 18 June 2012 - 10:44 PM
    Mazdaowner

    Steady boss!!!! Indeed this thread is too useful, considering the local occurences of late!
    Keep it clean!


    Bro. We will keep a tight watch.
  • 18 June 2012 - 11:12 PM
    Shochong

    Qn for Xavier: I parked my car while I am on holiday last week. Asked my bro to ran the engine very two days cos I am worried that my car wouldn't start if I leave it idle for the whole week (I have the Fine Vu installed). However, my bro only tried to start it on day 3 and it was totally dead. So I wonder how long will the remaining battery power last if Magix actually cut the power to the camera? I only have alarm that is active.

    Hi bro, sorry for the late reply. The finevu lasted me 5 days without driving while i was away in taiwan for 10 days. My battery was flat when i was back too, thats because my alarm is also drawing power which is not protected by the power magic. Normally if your car battery is still less than a year, it would be fine if u drive daily. Driving will recharge the battery again. wink.gif
    If you are going away for long and wish to have surveillance still, its better to start engine every 2 day for 5 mins or used external battery pack (ie. Tpower) for charging.

    PS: Thanks Adrainli bro for the help in answering queries, as helpful as ever. :)

    Edited by Shochong, 18 June 2012 - 11:26 PM.

  • 19 June 2012 - 12:16 AM
    Donut
    The Man has spoken.......

    Could I suggest that all merchants here to post their advertisements in the rightful Merchant folder? This thread is NOT a place for advertisements. The merchants can of coz continue to participate in this thread, but not to post advertisements.

    I want to keep this thread clean.

    And most importantly, the next bugger who flame or give BS here, it will be your last post.
  • 19 June 2012 - 01:06 AM
    Shochong
    Laserjet, i just changed my ip. Do a check on my ip & everything will come to light.
    Will await your reply in pm :)

    Donut: No worries, we will not post any more ads but only help here.
    Thanks.

    Edited by Shochong, 19 June 2012 - 01:08 AM.

  • 19 June 2012 - 08:48 AM
    Milleo
    thanks Xavier. guess my battery kinda old liao.
  • 19 June 2012 - 08:55 AM
    Solar
    i happen to chance upon this
    portable battery

    for those who don't want to connect their cam to the car's battery, is this workable, anyone tried before?
    i am concerned with the rated power.. heard many china products have overrated their stuff. any way to test it?

  • 19 June 2012 - 08:59 AM
    Mazdaowner

    i happen to chance upon this
    portable battery

    for those who don't want to connect their cam to the car's battery, is this workable, anyone tried before?
    i am concerned with the rated power.. heard many china products have overrated their stuff. any way to test it?


    Got one for my phone and laptop, works very well in fact, for that kind of price, can't ask for more.
    Hooked it up to my aux camera in my other car, rear cam, no issues also. All stuff now also MIC,
    cheap, use, spoilt, dump, no love lost.
  • 19 June 2012 - 09:10 AM
    Donut

    i happen to chance upon this
    portable battery

    for those who don't want to connect their cam to the car's battery, is this workable, anyone tried before?
    i am concerned with the rated power.. heard many china products have overrated their stuff. any way to test it?


    Looks good to me. worth to give it a try.
  • 19 June 2012 - 09:18 AM
    Adrianli

    i happen to chance upon this
    portable battery

    for those who don't want to connect their cam to the car's battery, is this workable, anyone tried before?
    i am concerned with the rated power.. heard many china products have overrated their stuff. any way to test it?


    I am very concerned abt such portable battery indicated capacity. For example, u see this URL u posted, its 12,000mah. But it is not actually true 12,000mah at 5v output capacity.

    Li-ion battery nominal voltage is 3.6V
    Li-Fe battery nominal voltage is 3.3V
    Li-poly battery nominal voltage is 3.7V

    There is no 5V lithium battery exist at the moment. So the maker is using a step-up transformer to up the voltage to 5V output. This in turn cause a drop in the battery capacity to much lower than the rated 12,000mah.

    This can be represented by the below theory calculations:

    Lets assume it is using Li-poly battery.

    P=IV
    P= 12,000 x 3.7
    P= 44,000

    44,000 = I x 5V
    I = 8,880mah

    So in actual fact, it is only 8,880mah capacity at 5V rather than 12,000mah at 5V. If it is to output at 12V, the capacity drops even further.

    Also these got no car charger, u got to bring home n charge n replace it everyday. U will need two sets to cover 24/7 operation.
  • 19 June 2012 - 10:25 AM
    Solar
    thanks bro.. thumbsup.gif

    this price looks good even if it is at 8000mah.. if it really is.. some comments on similar products on deaxextreme are like only 2000mah when they advertised 8000mah. can a voltmeter measure the rating? (if it can, probably gonna borrow it from a friend)

    hope it has enough power to do overnight surveillance..
  • 19 June 2012 - 10:29 AM
    Adrianli

    thanks bro.. thumbsup.gif

    this price looks good even if it is at 8000mah.. if it really is.. some comments on similar products on deaxextreme are like only 2000mah when they advertised 8000mah. can a voltmeter measure the rating? (if it can, probably gonna borrow it from a friend)

    hope it has enough power to do overnight surveillance..


    To know its actual capacity, u will need to run the battery from full charged till drain on a capacity logger to know its true capacity.

    These lithium batteries cannot run flat one, it will destroy the battery thus shorten the life-span.

    Minimum voltage will be 3.0V.

    Edited by Adrianli, 19 June 2012 - 10:30 AM.

  • 19 June 2012 - 10:31 AM
    Mazdaowner

    thanks bro.. thumbsup.gif

    this price looks good even if it is at 8000mah.. if it really is.. some comments on similar products on deaxextreme are like only 2000mah when they advertised 8000mah. can a voltmeter measure the rating? (if it can, probably gonna borrow it from a friend)

    hope it has enough power to do overnight surveillance..


    One I have is for laptop, never bothered to run a test on the mah, leaving overnight for me is a fear,
    I'm more afraid of it catching fire, as with the direct tap into the car batt with the PowerMagic. Troublesome as it may seem,
    will remove batt before leaving the car. Peace of mind.
  • 19 June 2012 - 10:37 AM
    Aventador

    One I have is for laptop, never bothered to run a test on the mah, leaving overnight for me is a fear,
    I'm more afraid of it catching fire, as with the direct tap into the car batt with the PowerMagic. Troublesome as it may seem,
    will remove batt before leaving the car. Peace of mind.


    portable battery packs if switched off but left in the car is there also a risk of catching fire?


  • 19 June 2012 - 11:03 AM
    Adrianli

    portable battery packs if switched off but left in the car is there also a risk of catching fire?


    If u park under the sun, I advise u against using these lithium battery packs.

    Lithium-ion batteries can rupture, ignite, or explode when exposed to high temperature. Short-circuiting a battery will cause the cell to overheat and possibly to catch fire. Adjacent cells may then overheat and fail, possibly causing the entire battery to ignite or rupture. In the event of a fire, the device may emit dense irritating smoke

  • 19 June 2012 - 11:10 AM
    Mazdaowner

    portable battery packs if switched off but left in the car is there also a risk of catching fire?


    Personally, I'd feel a lot better if I took them out.
  • 19 June 2012 - 11:11 AM
    Mazdaowner

    If u park under the sun, I advise u against using these lithium battery packs.

    Lithium-ion batteries can rupture, ignite, or explode when exposed to high temperature. Short-circuiting a battery will cause the cell to overheat and possibly to catch fire. Adjacent cells may then overheat and fail, possibly causing the entire battery to ignite or rupture. In the event of a fire, the device may emit dense irritating smoke


    Yeah bro. not being paranoid, insurances no coverage if they found out this is your fault.
  • 19 June 2012 - 11:26 AM
    Adrianli

    Yeah bro. not being paranoid, insurances no coverage if they found out this is your fault.


    Yup, one will never know the workmanship on the product esp from China. The battery will be fine. But the soldering of various parts together are still labour intensive.
  • 19 June 2012 - 11:41 AM
    Mazdaowner

    Yup, one will never know the workmanship on the product esp from China. The battery will be fine. But the soldering of various parts together are still labour intensive.


    Yeah, best is remove. Now I go the use and throw route, why bother pay so much also.
  • 19 June 2012 - 11:56 AM
    Ikennyg
    Any user here using this korea brand car recorder Inavi black clair non gps here. Just brought one from korea when on business trip there last week. The online registration and to update the latest firmware is done online. But the website is in korea word and same for the operation manual. Any one had the operation manual in english can borrow to photostat? kindly advice can I use other korean brand firmware found online?
  • 19 June 2012 - 12:02 PM
    Inc
    Hi Fellow bro and sis(if any),

    I'm a newbie to this in car video recorder and have recently bought my very first Itronics ITB 100HD from bro Xavier. Just wanted to clear some doubts and learn from the seniors in this forum to make full use of my new gadget. At the same time to manage my expectations as well as I have not been exposed to any other car recorder and thus will not be able to determine if the end results are the "norm". Please bear with me if my enquries are elementary: Here goes:

    Night Video

    1) Is the quality of my night recording considered good? I noticed that certain bright lights like the street lamps/traffic lights etc tend to have a halo effect. Is that normal? Can anything be done to improve on it? I have tried the brightness and contrast functions and also switch on the night vision mode in the player but to no avail...

    2 Same video around the 30 sec timing. As I approached the white car, I realise that I can't see its license plate at all. His license plate too reflective? My lights too glaring? I'm using normal stock light bulbs for my headlamp. Is this normal as well? If this is normal, then how do I ensure that I can capture its license plate if I really wanted to? Dim down my headlights?


    Day Video

    1) Day videos definitely are much better and clearer. Another thing that I notice is that sometimes the lights from the traffic light flicker as shown in the video. Why is it so and any means to avoid it? And in this video, guess the reason I cant see the license plate of the car in front is because of the sun glare from the back? Just to check with the more experience bro here, normally to ensure that recording of crucial information is being captured, what will you do? Will you drive to the sides as well as follow behind for a while in order to eliminate/reduce tha chances of non capture of crucial information like licence plate?


    Hope to receive valuable advices from the fellow forumers here. Given what had just transpired over the past few days, please do not flame me and I do not harbour any other intentions except to clarify and learn from the seniors here. Many thanks in adv!

    Cheers!
  • 19 June 2012 - 12:10 PM
    Aventador

    Personally, I'd feel a lot better if I took them out.


    then what about those portable GPS units and ipods, also not safe to leave it in the car?

    hope i don't have to carry my DVR, GPS, ipod everytime i park in the sunny area! especially with the crappy weather nowadays

    looks like i may need to borrow my wife handbags soon
  • 19 June 2012 - 12:12 PM
    Inc
    Oh dear.... think i must have did something wrong with the video upload...... Please pardon me. I'm a sotong noob when it comes to issues like this.... Can any kind soul help me out? Many thks!
  • 19 June 2012 - 12:15 PM
    BoneStock

    If u park under the sun, I advise u against using these lithium battery packs.

    Lithium-ion batteries can rupture, ignite, or explode when exposed to high temperature. Short-circuiting a battery will cause the cell to overheat and possibly to catch fire. Adjacent cells may then overheat and fail, possibly causing the entire battery to ignite or rupture. In the event of a fire, the device may emit dense irritating smoke


    so it's also better to remove the battery from the DVR as well? When ignition is turned on, the DVR taps power from the car anyway.

    I park under hot sun very often especially if the sheltered lots at my often are taken up.
  • 19 June 2012 - 12:19 PM
    Mazdaowner

    then what about those portable GPS units and ipods, also not safe to leave it in the car?

    hope i don't have to carry my DVR, GPS, ipod everytime i park in the sunny area! especially with the crappy weather nowadays

    looks like i may need to borrow my wife handbags soon


    I only have a GPS, and it's kept in the glove compartment. Battery wise, it's exposed if I choose to leave it, of which I do not,
    remove it from the car when I leave it parked. Short period of time I guess, guess only, should be fine.
  • 19 June 2012 - 12:55 PM
    I_RIDE_DEEP

    Lets assume it is using Li-poly battery.

    P=IV
    P= 12,000 x 3.7
    P= 44,000

    44,000 = I x 5V
    I = 8,880mah

    So in actual fact, it is only 8,880mah capacity at 5V rather than 12,000mah at 5V. If it is to output at 12V, the capacity drops even further.

    Also these got no car charger, u got to bring home n charge n replace it everyday. U will need two sets to cover 24/7 operation.


    Tks bro Adrian once again. Very informative.

    I was doing this computation mentally too (except that I didnt know LiPo was at 3.7V nominal voltage)

    At the present moment, it will seem lead acid battery is still a cheap and safe option.

    Aside to bro Adrian: Did you get a chance to measure the power draw for finevue?

  • 19 June 2012 - 01:13 PM
    Inc
    Sorry for the repost as the Sotong me finally know how to upload the video..... sweatdrop.gif


    Hi Fellow bro and sis(if any),

    I'm a newbie to this in car video recorder and have recently bought my very first Itronics ITB 100HD from bro Xavier. Just wanted to clear some doubts and learn from the seniors in this forum to make full use of my new gadget. At the same time to manage my expectations as well as I have not been exposed to any other car recorder and thus will not be able to determine if the end results are the "norm". Please bear with me if my enquries are elementary: Here goes:

    Night Video

    1) Is the quality of my night recording considered good? I noticed that certain bright lights like the street lamps/traffic lights etc tend to have a halo effect. Is that normal? Can anything be done to improve on it? I have tried the brightness and contrast functions and also switch on the night vision mode in the player but to no avail...

    2 Same video around the 30 sec timing. As I approached the white car, I realise that I can't see its license plate at all. His license plate too reflective? My lights too glaring? I'm using normal stock light bulbs for my headlamp. Is this normal as well? If this is normal, then how do I ensure that I can capture its license plate if I really wanted to? Dim down my headlights?


    Day Video

    1) Day videos definitely are much better and clearer. Another thing that I notice is that sometimes the lights from the traffic light flicker as shown in the video. Why is it so and any means to avoid it? And in this video, guess the reason I cant see the license plate of the car in front is because of the sun glare from the back? Just to check with the more experience bro here, normally to ensure that recording of crucial information is being captured, what will you do? Will you drive to the sides as well as follow behind for a while in order to eliminate/reduce tha chances of non capture of crucial information like licence plate?


    Hope to receive valuable advices from the fellow forumers here. Given what had just transpired over the past few days, please do not flame me and I do not harbour any other intentions except to clarify and learn from the seniors here. Many thanks in adv!

    Cheers!

  • 19 June 2012 - 01:26 PM
    Adrianli

    so it's also better to remove the battery from the DVR as well? When ignition is turned on, the DVR taps power from the car anyway.

    I park under hot sun very often especially if the sheltered lots at my often are taken up.


    By right, should avoid having the lipo battery under extreme hot temperatures. The battery in the dvr helps maintain the correct settings in the dvr.

    Those Nokia type enclosed li-ion batt should be fine. But there are many cases of it bloated. Just keep a lookout.
  • 19 June 2012 - 01:27 PM
    Adrianli

    Aside to bro Adrian: Did you get a chance to measure the power draw for finevue?


    It was ard 3watts if I can remember correctly.
  • 19 June 2012 - 01:27 PM
    Aventador
    In all photography and videos, lighting is Everything!

    so lots of the image capture also depends on your luck - shadows, reflections, glare

    perhaps you need an assistant driving next to you with the white reflector you see during wedding shoots laugh.gif

    besides that , nothing much you can do

    don't worry, if you need to , you can send the footage to CSI labs in LA, Miami or New York. they press a few buttons, even the passenger underwear color also can see


  • 19 June 2012 - 04:11 PM
    Inc
    Hey Aventador bro,

    thks for replying to my enquries happy.gif

    So my recordings are normal right? and not because I missed out on some much needed settings adjustments etc..

    Like I mentioned earlier, first time user so have to manage my expectations in order to know what is the norm. Understand that bro Xavier is out of town today, perhaps he can share his input when he's back.

    By the way, I prefer pressing a few buttons and see passengers naked without underwear. wink.gif

    Have a good evening, cheers!
  • 19 June 2012 - 09:16 PM
    Obscurest
    Folks,

    I bought the Itronics Car Cam from Xavier 2 weeks ago and would like to post my experience about this car cam with everybody.

    I believe this video should solve most of our queries about if this car cam can survive the heat issues.

    I have own the BlackVue and FineVue and i am really impressed by this Itronics.

    In terms of clarity in day and night, my vote will go for BlackVue.

    Guess till now, Itronics will defintely by my choice.

    The only setback that for this Itronics is that there is no prominent indicators if the car cam is running except for 1 small red light and i mean real small.

    But with the heat stress that i have done, my confi for this cam is higher now.

    Thanks Xavier...




    Edited by Obscurest, 19 June 2012 - 09:33 PM.

  • 19 June 2012 - 09:49 PM
    Cormie
    I just sent this mail to iTronics :)

    Dear iTronics staff,
    I would like to make, what I feel is an important suggestion and feature to be implemented into your next firmware upgrade for the ITB100HD. It's the ability to lock a certain segment of recorded footage so it cannot be recorded over. Also the ability to have an "emergency" button so it's possible to record footage being observed from the windscreen, not necessarily involving you, for example, a cyclist getting hit by another car.

    At the moment, if the ITB100HD was to capture such an event, or if it was to capture an event where the driver of the car was knocked unconscious, either event, when very important, could easily be recorded over if the camera is left running.

    I am a previous user of the X-Driven DRS1100, this is another car blackbox and instead of working with an overwrite by time/file type system, it simply locked certain segments (if there was a heavy shock or G-force or if the driver pressed the emergency button). These files could not be recorded over in the continuous looping of footage and the only way to free up space taken by these files, was by deleting them from the computer. This made it much more reliable to save important files and not lose vital footage of what could be a serious incident. Once the SD card is connected to the computer, the files can be backed up and deleted off the SD card leaving more space to be used for general looping footage.

    I feel it's very important to have the files locked and not be overwritten and perhaps an emergency button could be created, say by pressing the "mic" button quickly twice or something similar.

    I'm hoping this is something can can be implemented soon as I was already involved in a collision and the data was overwritten unfortunately.

    Pleas let me know if this is possible and if it's likely to be implemented any time soon?

    Regards,


  • 19 June 2012 - 10:07 PM
    Dankoo
    For your day video, your cam is tilted lower and exposing more black at the bottom. The cam will try to balance up the EV for this thus the brighter areas become more wash out. Dynamic range of cams are limited. Try to expose more outside area and see if theres improvements
  • 19 June 2012 - 10:15 PM
    Chaicka
    Is anyone able to provide information on what's new/change in the FineVu CR-300HD's new firmware version 1.00.027 (Korean) and version 1.00.127 (English)?
  • 19 June 2012 - 10:27 PM
    Cormie

    For your day video, your cam is tilted lower and exposing more black at the bottom. The cam will try to balance up the EV for this thus the brighter areas become more wash out. Dynamic range of cams are limited. Try to expose more outside area and see if theres improvements


    Never knew that myself, so it's best t have less of the dash, and more of the sky, including in some cases what will be the sun?
  • 19 June 2012 - 11:02 PM
    Kb27

    i happen to chance upon this
    portable battery

    for those who don't want to connect their cam to the car's battery, is this workable, anyone tried before?
    i am concerned with the rated power.. heard many china products have overrated their stuff. any way to test it?


    Go Sim Lim Tower basement and buy a SLA battery, around $50.

  • 19 June 2012 - 11:15 PM
    Shochong
    The most practical way is still to remove your sd card when u meet with an accident.
    Most of the latest korea brand like finevu, otosaver, blackvue, itronics do not have that lock function anymore.
    You should set to file deletion by type, & set more % for event recording & least sensitive for impact sensor during driving.
    Thats my suggestion for all my customers.

    I just sent this mail to iTronics :)

    Dear iTronics staff,
    I would like to make, what I feel is an important suggestion and feature to be implemented into your next firmware upgrade for the ITB100HD. It's the ability to lock a certain segment of recorded footage so it cannot be recorded over. Also the ability to have an "emergency" button so it's possible to record footage being observed from the windscreen, not necessarily involving you, for example, a cyclist getting hit by another car.

    At the moment, if the ITB100HD was to capture such an event, or if it was to capture an event where the driver of the car was knocked unconscious, either event, when very important, could easily be recorded over if the camera is left running.

    I am a previous user of the X-Driven DRS1100, this is another car blackbox and instead of working with an overwrite by time/file type system, it simply locked certain segments (if there was a heavy shock or G-force or if the driver pressed the emergency button). These files could not be recorded over in the continuous looping of footage and the only way to free up space taken by these files, was by deleting them from the computer. This made it much more reliable to save important files and not lose vital footage of what could be a serious incident. Once the SD card is connected to the computer, the files can be backed up and deleted off the SD card leaving more space to be used for general looping footage.

    I feel it's very important to have the files locked and not be overwritten and perhaps an emergency button could be created, say by pressing the "mic" button quickly twice or something similar.

    I'm hoping this is something can can be implemented soon as I was already involved in a collision and the data was overwritten unfortunately.

    Pleas let me know if this is possible and if it's likely to be implemented any time soon?

    Regards,


    Edited by Shochong, 19 June 2012 - 11:41 PM.

  • 19 June 2012 - 11:16 PM
    Axela525

    Go Sim Lim Tower basement and buy a SLA battery, around $50.

    How to charge? Got A/c house plug to charge? wink.gif
  • 19 June 2012 - 11:17 PM
    Shochong

    Folks,

    I bought the Itronics Car Cam from Xavier 2 weeks ago and would like to post my experience about this car cam with everybody.

    I believe this video should solve most of our queries about if this car cam can survive the heat issues.

    I have own the BlackVue and FineVue and i am really impressed by this Itronics.

    In terms of clarity in day and night, my vote will go for BlackVue.

    Guess till now, Itronics will defintely by my choice.

    The only setback that for this Itronics is that there is no prominent indicators if the car cam is running except for 1 small red light and i mean real small.

    But with the heat stress that i have done, my confi for this cam is higher now.

    Thanks Xavier...




    Thanks bro for the stress test! You should state u tested in JURONG ISLAND!

    Edited by Shochong, 19 June 2012 - 11:18 PM.

  • 19 June 2012 - 11:27 PM
    Shochong

    Is anyone able to provide information on what's new/change in the FineVu CR-300HD's new firmware version 1.00.027 (Korean) and version 1.00.127 (English)?

    I can check it out for u tmr bro, just back to SG :)
  • 19 June 2012 - 11:35 PM
    Dankoo

    Never knew that myself, so it's best t have less of the dash, and more of the sky, including in some cases what will be the sun?


    The cam will overexposed the sun to make sure the surrounding are exposed properly. However, there's always limitation. If you are driving into the sun in the evening, very difficult for the cam to produce balance exposure as I mentioned earlier, cam dynamic range is limited.
  • 19 June 2012 - 11:37 PM
    Shochong

    Sorry for the repost as the Sotong me finally know how to upload the video..... sweatdrop.gif


    Hi Fellow bro and sis(if any),

    I'm a newbie to this in car video recorder and have recently bought my very first Itronics ITB 100HD from bro Xavier. Just wanted to clear some doubts and learn from the seniors in this forum to make full use of my new gadget. At the same time to manage my expectations as well as I have not been exposed to any other car recorder and thus will not be able to determine if the end results are the "norm". Please bear with me if my enquries are elementary: Here goes:

    Night Video

    1) Is the quality of my night recording considered good? I noticed that certain bright lights like the street lamps/traffic lights etc tend to have a halo effect. Is that normal? Can anything be done to improve on it? I have tried the brightness and contrast functions and also switch on the night vision mode in the player but to no avail...

    2 Same video around the 30 sec timing. As I approached the white car, I realise that I can't see its license plate at all. His license plate too reflective? My lights too glaring? I'm using normal stock light bulbs for my headlamp. Is this normal as well? If this is normal, then how do I ensure that I can capture its license plate if I really wanted to? Dim down my headlights?


    Day Video

    1) Day videos definitely are much better and clearer. Another thing that I notice is that sometimes the lights from the traffic light flicker as shown in the video. Why is it so and any means to avoid it? And in this video, guess the reason I cant see the license plate of the car in front is because of the sun glare from the back? Just to check with the more experience bro here, normally to ensure that recording of crucial information is being captured, what will you do? Will you drive to the sides as well as follow behind for a while in order to eliminate/reduce tha chances of non capture of crucial information like licence plate?


    Hope to receive valuable advices from the fellow forumers here. Given what had just transpired over the past few days, please do not flame me and I do not harbour any other intentions except to clarify and learn from the seniors here. Many thanks in adv!

    Cheers!

    Hi bro,
    Am back to SG, let me help answer your queries.
    Night Video
    1) Is the quality of my night recording considered good? I noticed that certain bright lights like the street lamps/traffic lights etc tend to have a halo effect. Is that normal? Can anything be done to improve on it? I have tried the brightness and contrast functions and also switch on the night vision mode in the player but to no avail...

    Its normal, that "halo" effect or flickering of traffic lights is normal across all brand of car dvr, in fact, even if we look at the street lamps with our naked eyes, u will also be able to see the same effect. You can take a look at all my night samples with other car dvr, u will know its normal :)

    2 Same video around the 30 sec timing. As I approached the white car, I realise that I can't see its license plate at all. His license plate too reflective? My lights too glaring? I'm using normal stock light bulbs for my headlamp. Is this normal as well? If this is normal, then how do I ensure that I can capture its license plate if I really wanted to? Dim down my headlights?

    Day Video
    1) Day videos definitely are much better and clearer. Another thing that I notice is that sometimes the lights from the traffic light flicker as shown in the video. Why is it so and any means to avoid it? And in this video, guess the reason I cant see the license plate of the car in front is because of the sun glare from the back? Just to check with the more experience bro here, normally to ensure that recording of crucial information is being captured, what will you do? Will you drive to the sides as well as follow behind for a while in order to eliminate/reduce tha chances of non capture of crucial information like licence plate?

    Like what Aventador bro mentioned earlier in the post, if you played with videography or photography,lighting is Everything! Will also be affected by the angle, reflection & distance especially at night.

    Edited by Shochong, 19 June 2012 - 11:38 PM.

  • 19 June 2012 - 11:41 PM
    Unclepigpig

    Go Sim Lim Tower basement and buy a SLA battery, around $50.


    Used to have 2 of this in my boot for powering of car cam but removed them due to

    1) Too heavy and affecting FC
    2) The distance travelled is too short per day to effectively charge them full enough for 4 cams
    3) Hassle to carry both home everyday to charge from wall plug
  • 19 June 2012 - 11:42 PM
    Kb27

    How to charge? Got A/c house plug to charge? wink.gif


    Get a dc (ciggie) plug ($3) from Sim Lim. Wire it to 2 spades and plug into the battery.
    Your car alternator is the charger when the engine is running. biggrin.gif
  • 19 June 2012 - 11:53 PM
    Obscurest

    Thanks bro for the stress test! You should state u tested in JURONG ISLAND!



    Yes bro...

    This test was conducted in jur island. Generally the temp there is a few degree higher than the mainland.

    Hope the video helps.

    Cheers.
  • 20 June 2012 - 02:47 AM
    Shochong

    Yes bro...

    This test was conducted in jur island. Generally the temp there is a few degree higher than the mainland.

    Hope the video helps.

    Cheers.

    Appreciated.
    Cheers wink.gif
  • 20 June 2012 - 08:14 AM
    Adrianli

    Go Sim Lim Tower basement and buy a SLA battery, around $50.


    For this size, should be ard the S$23-S$36 range lah. Where got S$50??? biggrin.gif I got one in my car for my weekend non-stop recording.
  • 20 June 2012 - 08:59 AM
    Bryankoh

    Yes bro...

    This test was conducted in jur island. Generally the temp there is a few degree higher than the mainland.

    Hope the video helps.

    Cheers.

    May I know how many days you have tested on the heat stress?
  • 20 June 2012 - 09:06 AM
    Sengsterz

    Is anyone able to provide information on what's new/change in the FineVu CR-300HD's new firmware version 1.00.027 (Korean) and version 1.00.127 (English)?


    http://translate.goo...h...&prmd=imvns

    google translation also dun work. Think they create a jpeg file for the description. Need some hot korean chick help to translate it. inlove.gif
  • 20 June 2012 - 09:14 AM
    Adrianli

    Is anyone able to provide information on what's new/change in the FineVu CR-300HD's new firmware version 1.00.027 (Korean) and version 1.00.127 (English)?


    If nothing wrong with the current english firmware, advise not to touch it.
  • 20 June 2012 - 09:24 AM
    Bryankoh

    Is anyone able to provide information on what's new/change in the FineVu CR-300HD's new firmware version 1.00.027 (Korean) and version 1.00.127 (English)?

    According to a translation by someone on Taiwan car recorder forum, the changes for 1.00.027 (Korean) are:
    1.??????

    2.??????????

    3.????GPS????????GPS???

    4.????
  • 20 June 2012 - 09:28 AM
    Bryankoh

    Is anyone able to provide information on what's new/change in the FineVu CR-300HD's new firmware version 1.00.027 (Korean) and version 1.00.127 (English)?

    I have upgraded to Korean 1.00.027, the video seems to be sharper. Will try to do a night drive to check out.... The only issue I have with the CR-300HD is the bad night recording.

    Btw, where did you get your English version 1.00.127? I got it from Bro Xavier is only 1.00.118
  • 20 June 2012 - 09:38 AM
    Octopus

    Is anyone able to provide information on what's new/change in the FineVu CR-300HD's new firmware version 1.00.027 (Korean) and version 1.00.127 (English)?


    I only noticed that the newer version got total 6 files inside to be copied to the Micro SD card. Previous version got only 4 files.
    Upon using the new version the night brightness jump up one level. Other than that I cannot tell what are the difference....
  • 20 June 2012 - 10:01 AM
    Kb27

    For this size, should be ard the S$23-S$36 range lah. Where got S$50??? biggrin.gif I got one in my car for my weekend non-stop recording.


    Might be $25, I forgot. Cuz I bought it with an AC charger at the same time. biggrin.gif
  • 20 June 2012 - 10:09 AM
    Solar

    Go Sim Lim Tower basement and buy a SLA battery, around $50.


    good idea bro! but the size look like around a car battery?
    even 1/2 size also quite big... how u guys put in the car.. front passenger side ah?

    i'll check it out sim lim this weekend wink.gif
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