Thứ Bảy, 17 tháng 9, 2016

Nissan QashQai 2014 Part 2 part 2

  • 07 May 2016 - 12:11 AM
    Itchyhand

    Customize a piller to house a 3 inch mid range speaker and tweeter.....

    U going to manufacture the pillar yourself?
  • 07 May 2016 - 01:36 AM
    JanJenn
    Hi, does anyone know if k&n filter does any good to our Qashqai 1.2? What are the pros and cons of changing? Does it improve Low end torque at all?
  • 07 May 2016 - 02:17 AM
    Caribou

    unspecified.jpg

    Collected my qq 2L last week, happy with the car except the FC due to many short trips. Not too bother though, will just enjoy the drive.


    Edited by Caribou, 07 May 2016 - 02:23 AM.

  • 07 May 2016 - 06:56 AM
    Meemee

    U going to manufacture the pillar yourself?

    1/2 1/2 -
    Getting an extra set of pillar
    From there ..... Work on

    Fiber glass , wooden mount.... Leather wrap ...... Etc

    Hi, does anyone know if k&n filter does any good to our Qashqai 1.2? What are the pros and cons of changing? Does it improve Low end torque at all?

    It smoother up acclecration and the roll is more


    Meaning the car roll further when the foot is off the accelerator ..
  • 07 May 2016 - 11:48 AM
    richard_crl032

    Sometimes the inner demons will want to come out haha...

    Hi Haronkr,

    Need racechip ultimate to turn the 1.2L QQ into a beast.

    Still think it is simply 1.2L engine with 165Nm torque and 114bhp that dun have the oomph to cut in confidently unlike me driving the 2.4L hippo estima.

    Cheers.

    Richard
  • 07 May 2016 - 12:01 PM
    Meemee

    Hi Haronkr,

    Need racechip ultimate to turn the 1.2L QQ into a beast.

    Still think it is simply 1.2L engine with 165Nm torque and 114bhp that dun have the oomph to cut in confidently unlike me driving the 2.4L hippo estima.

    Cheers.

    Richard

    I also not on ulitmate ....
    But yet I feel I have the oomph .....


    :)
  • 07 May 2016 - 12:03 PM
    richard_crl032

    1/2 1/2 -
    Getting an extra set of pillar
    From there ..... Work on

    Fiber glass , wooden mount.... Leather wrap ...... Etc
    It smoother up acclecration and the roll is more


    Meaning the car roll further when the foot is off the accelerator ..

    Hi Janjen,

    Indeed K&N filter makes your rider arguably lighter but pls dun expect day and nite different. Only ethrottle and piggyback like racechip ultimate gave significant difference on performance in addition to some others like strut bar, lowered spring, BBK etc.

    However, there are also those who never want to use K&F filter cos it is oil based especially when you clean it yourself after 50k miles as recommended. I am using it also but my estima had its airflow sensor clogged cos local periodic service dun clean airflow sensor like in usa or europe.

    You will find engine shuttering and loss in power and probably high FC if airflow sensor is clogged like in my experience but that was after 200k km and hence I am still using albeit taking care no excessive reoiling after cleaned.

    Cheers.

    Richard

    Edited by richard_crl032, 07 May 2016 - 12:04 PM.

  • 07 May 2016 - 12:10 PM
    richard_crl032

    I also not on ulitmate ....
    But yet I feel I have the oomph .....


    :)

    Hi Meemee,

    Perhaps my expectation then cos estima is 2.4L or 2X the capacity and its 1.9ton may not be obvious after initial pick up at 60-70km/hr.

    However at 90km/hr upwards, 1.2L QQ certainly need to keep throttle open while 2.4L estima just cruises along with minimal intervention of the ethrottle. At these speeds, any needed acceleration is also for sure more brisk with the 2.4L estima.

    Hence, I would love the ultimate if not my CO's warning not to violate warranty too obviously :(

    Cheers.

    Richard
  • 07 May 2016 - 01:09 PM
    Talkie
    My Q1.2T will be delivered by end of month. Booked during recent expo, on 6 bid guarantee. TC got my COE this week. Car reaching shores early next week.

    1) What is a good paint protection to take up?
    2) Where can I go to get some sound insulation done on the doors?

    Thank you.
  • 07 May 2016 - 02:37 PM
    Meemee
    This 6.5 inch sub look good -----to place at the rear doors

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  • 07 May 2016 - 03:25 PM
    Mred1-2

    Hi Janjen,

    Indeed K&N filter makes your rider arguably lighter but pls dun expect day and nite different. Only ethrottle and piggyback like racechip ultimate gave significant difference on performance in addition to some others like strut bar, lowered spring, BBK etc.

    However, there are also those who never want to use K&F filter cos it is oil based especially when you clean it yourself after 50k miles as recommended. I am using it also but my estima had its airflow sensor clogged cos local periodic service dun clean airflow sensor like in usa or europe.

    You will find engine shuttering and loss in power and probably high FC if airflow sensor is clogged like in my experience but that was after 200k km and hence I am still using albeit taking care no excessive reoiling after cleaned.

    Cheers.

    Richard

    Yes the oil coupled with dirt becomes sticky residue. In my old ride the throttle body became a "sticky" issue.
  • 07 May 2016 - 03:33 PM
    EricChan

    1) I have�good PPS experience with Optishine (read previous posts on this).

    2)�Go to�MeeMee�if you are keen�on insulation work.�

    My Q1.2T will be delivered by end of month. Booked during recent expo, on 6 bid guarantee. TC got my COE this week. Car reaching shores early next week.

    1) What is a good paint protection to take up?
    2) Where can I go to get some sound insulation done on the doors?

    Thank you.


  • 07 May 2016 - 05:58 PM
    dash1234

    This 6.5 inch sub look good -----to place at the rear doors

    Meemee and all expert out there,may l ask what about the front if l were to put this at the rear? Considering using Hertz for my front and left the rear untouch with the Pioneer subwoofer. I'm not that particular but just want something better than stock.
  • 07 May 2016 - 06:23 PM
    Meemee
    You may need lots of sound damping material for the sub at the door, else lot of metal vibration will generated .
    Hence - distortions .....


    If you want to drive good speaker , I suggest maybe consider changing a head unit first ......
    Cause stock not enough power to drive after market speaker.

    1) I have good PPS experience with Optishine (read previous posts on this).
    2) Go to MeeMee if you are keen on insulation work.

    Sorry ----- Meemee stop doing the door insulation works....

    Maybe for a time being.....
    Due to family commitments :)

    Meemee and all expert out there,may l ask what about the front if l were to put this at the rear? Considering using Hertz for my front and left the rear untouch with the Pioneer subwoofer. I'm not that particular but just want something better than stock.

    Now working on how to add damping material :)
  • 07 May 2016 - 06:34 PM
    dash1234

    You may need lots of sound damping material for the sub at the door, else lot of metal vibration will generated .
    Hence - distortions .....


    If you want to drive good speaker , I suggest maybe consider changing a head unit first ......
    Cause stock not enough power to drive after market speaker.
    Sorry ----- Meemee stop doing the door insulation works....

    Maybe for a time being.....
    Due to family commitments :)
    Now working on how to add damping material :)

    Ok. Tks.
  • 07 May 2016 - 07:32 PM
    EricChan

    this modified 1st gen QQ reached 355 kmhr (222 mph)

    http://www.topgear.c...hqai-hit-222mph

    Its 0 - 100 kmhr (0 - 62 mph) is 2.7 sec

    http://www.topgear.c...-nissan-qashqai


    Edited by EricChan, 07 May 2016 - 07:39 PM.

  • 07 May 2016 - 07:59 PM
    richard_crl032
    Hi Bros,

    Those whose asked avout thr reverse camera function on my newsmy dual wince and full android headunit, pls see enclosed much clearer and bright view with same stick camera due to simply superior 1024x600 screen against stock's 800x400.

    Cheers.

    Richard

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  • 07 May 2016 - 08:05 PM
    richard_crl032

    Meemee and all expert out there,may l ask what about the front if l were to put this at the rear? Considering using Hertz for my front and left the rear untouch with the Pioneer subwoofer. I'm not that particular but just want something better than stock.


    Hi dash1234,

    Oh no, meemee is showing superior replacement for your pioneer subwoofer cos rear door has the required bigger volume for low bass.

    You simply need to get some better 2 way speakers if you.want to improve the sound but as meemee mentioned, better headunit will make more significant difference and stock system + speake4s is quite ok and you hqve to spent quite a lot to upgrade significantly.

    Cheers.

    Richard
  • 07 May 2016 - 08:35 PM
    Talkie

    1) I have good PPS experience with Optishine (read previous posts on this).
    2) Go to MeeMee if you are keen on insulation work.

    Thanks Eric.

    And noted MeeMee not free to do insulation anymore :).
  • 07 May 2016 - 08:58 PM
    Meemee

    Hi dash1234,

    Oh no, meemee is showing superior replacement for your pioneer subwoofer cos rear door has the required bigger volume for low bass.

    You simply need to get some better 2 way speakers if you.want to improve the sound but as meemee mentioned, better headunit will make more significant difference and stock system + speake4s is quite ok and you hqve to spent quite a lot to upgrade significantly.

    Cheers.

    Richard

    Get a decent set :)

    Make the ride more enjoyable .....
    Especially after a hard day work .... Pump up the volume and enjoy the ride......
    Must start the audio culture going ....

    Seem like not many into audio now a days ----
    Correct me if I m wrong
  • 07 May 2016 - 09:02 PM
    Baal
    Is the 'power cut' that happens when turning for the 1.2 fixed? If so, what was the cause of this glitch? How was this fixed?
  • 07 May 2016 - 09:23 PM
    Talkie

    Get a decent set :)

    Make the ride more enjoyable .....
    Especially after a hard day work .... Pump up the volume and enjoy the ride......
    Must start the audio culture going ....

    Seem like not many into audio now a days ----
    Correct me if I m wrong

    Any recommended place to get the audio done? Should change the heaf unit? Need to add amp, woofer and change speakers?

    My friend's new PI toyota sounds great w the locally installed pioneer HU costing S$200-300 and stock speakers. Quite astonishing.
  • 07 May 2016 - 09:25 PM
    richard_crl032

    Get a decent set :)

    Make the ride more enjoyable .....
    Especially after a hard day work .... Pump up the volume and enjoy the ride......
    Must start the audio culture going ....

    Seem like not many into audio now a days ----
    Correct me if I m wrong



    Hi Meemee,

    Think now stock headunit not too bad and also with nav like ours that deter owners to change.

    Also younger gen grow up on ipod mp3 and not into high fidelity.

    Oso, have car nowadays damn achievement liao with high payments to make and there are also many other distraction as alternative avenue to spend $, including high priced housing.

    Cheers !

    Richard
  • 07 May 2016 - 09:27 PM
    Mred1-2

    Is the 'power cut' that happens when turning for the 1.2 fixed? If so, what was the cause of this glitch? How was this fixed?


    It's the idling start/start software bug and solved with updated software.
  • 07 May 2016 - 09:40 PM
    dash1234

    Get a decent set :)

    Make the ride more enjoyable .....
    Especially after a hard day work .... Pump up the volume and enjoy the ride......
    Must start the audio culture going ....

    Seem like not many into audio now a days ----
    Correct me if I m wrong

    Don't wish to change the HU becos of the steering control and nav like what Richard has mentioned.

    Hi dash1234,

    Oh no, meemee is showing superior replacement for your pioneer subwoofer cos rear door has the required bigger volume for low bass.

    You simply need to get some better 2 way speakers if you.want to improve the sound but as meemee mentioned, better headunit will make more significant difference and stock system + speake4s is quite ok and you hqve to spent quite a lot to upgrade significantly.

    Cheers.

    Richard

    Ya. Wondering if l should change the speakers instead, with some door insulation. Tks Meemee and Richrd for your suggestions.

    Don't wish to change the HU becos of the steering control and nav like what Richard has mentioned.
    Ya. Wondering if l should change the speakers instead, with some door insulation. Tks Meemee and Richrd for your suggestions.

    Also agree with Meemee that aftermarket speakers may not be 'comparitble' with the stock HU.
  • 07 May 2016 - 09:59 PM
    Meemee

    Any recommended place to get the audio done? Should change the heaf unit? Need to add amp, woofer and change speakers?

    My friend's new PI toyota sounds great w the locally installed pioneer HU costing S$200-300 and stock speakers. Quite astonishing.

    A good head unit is a must for those into music ....

    To be honest ---- after spending a few k my system still can't match my Frd pioneer hu and stock speaker
    In term of clarity ; but lack of the power and sound stage



    That why I consider the change of Hu and never look back from there .......

    Pure audio enjoyment

    Hi Meemee,

    Think now stock headunit not too bad and also with nav like ours that deter owners to change.

    Also younger gen grow up on ipod mp3 and not into high fidelity.

    Oso, have car nowadays damn achievement liao with high payments to make and there are also many other distraction as alternative avenue to spend $, including high priced housing.

    Cheers !

    Richard

    But the sq still imba ....
    Ahahahahaha


    You gain some
    You lose some ......

    :) p

    Any recommended place to get the audio done? Should change the heaf unit? Need to add amp, woofer and change speakers?

    My friend's new PI toyota sounds great w the locally installed pioneer HU costing S$200-300 and stock speakers. Quite astonishing.

    Need to depend on budget ......

    Can have a few hundred to A few thousand ........

    Edited by Meemee, 07 May 2016 - 10:10 PM.

  • 07 May 2016 - 10:16 PM
    Meemee
    Stock Hu just lack the clarity .....
  • 07 May 2016 - 10:18 PM
    Talkie

    A good head unit is a must for those into music ....

    To be honest ---- after spending a few k my system still can't match my Frd pioneer hu and stock speaker
    In term of clarity ; but lack of the power and sound stage



    That why I consider the change of Hu and never look back from there .......

    Pure audio enjoyment
    But the sq still imba ....
    Ahahahahaha


    You gain some
    You lose some ......

    :) p
    Need to depend on budget ......

    Can have a few hundred to A few thousand ........

    I am into home hifi. So I am into sound. But car audio is a totally different ball game. I am unfamiliar. Also can't diy as lack installation skills.

    Any change of HU may render steering wheel buttons not functioning well. I have read Richard's posta. What he does seems highly DIY, different level. Rest of us can only watch and admire. Not able to follow.

    Edited by Talkie, 07 May 2016 - 10:22 PM.

  • 07 May 2016 - 11:01 PM
    500KP

    Need to stock up items for qq

    Sorry to reply so late. Realized that I have limited posts per day. Yes. I will first be looking at installing new horns. Am thinking whether to do PPS though.
  • 08 May 2016 - 02:46 AM
    roycfw

    Get a decent set :)

    Make the ride more enjoyable .....
    Especially after a hard day work .... Pump up the volume and enjoy the ride......
    Must start the audio culture going ....

    Seem like not many into audio now a days ----
    Correct me if I m wrong

    I am into audiophile.. But be prepared to spend a bit.. I have changed the stock speakers.... but did not change my HU due to the nav, GPS, handsfree, steering control, etc (thinking very hard whether to change HU or not) as I am already quite satisfied with the current setup; able to send out crystal clear sound, with good base........... For sharing:
    I have Rainbow SL C6.2 (2 way component), Sifoni midrange Capriccio C89M, for my front (turning front to 3 way), Helix B62C (2 way component) for my rear. Placed 2 amplifiers (soundstream and rainbow dream 4) and a sub woofer under my seat. Audison Bit One processor (8 channel) to drive the speakers, 6 channel to the front 6 speakers and 2 to the rear.
    I did the installation at Autoimage Sin Ming...

    Edited by roycfw, 08 May 2016 - 02:52 AM.

  • 08 May 2016 - 06:55 AM
    Pocy

    I am into audiophile.. But be prepared to spend a bit.. I have changed the stock speakers.... but did not change my HU due to the nav, GPS, handsfree, steering control, etc (thinking very hard whether to change HU or not) as I am already quite satisfied with the current setup; able to send out crystal clear sound, with good base........... For sharing:
    I have Rainbow SL C6.2 (2 way component), Sifoni midrange Capriccio C89M, for my front (turning front to 3 way), Helix B62C (2 way component) for my rear. Placed 2 amplifiers (soundstream and rainbow dream 4) and a sub woofer under my seat. Audison Bit One processor (8 channel) to drive the speakers, 6 channel to the front 6 speakers and 2 to the rear.
    I did the installation at Autoimage Sin Ming...

    What is your total expenses for all?
  • 08 May 2016 - 07:04 AM
    Meemee

    I am into home hifi. So I am into sound. But car audio is a totally different ball game. I am unfamiliar. Also can't diy as lack installation skills.

    Any change of HU may render steering wheel buttons not functioning well. I have read Richard's posta. What he does seems highly DIY, different level. Rest of us can only watch and admire. Not able to follow.

    Steerling control should not be a problem
    Richard got his solve.....


    I shall be trying again.... Hopefully within the next 2 weeks to get it solve ......

    I am into audiophile.. But be prepared to spend a bit.. I have changed the stock speakers.... but did not change my HU due to the nav, GPS, handsfree, steering control, etc (thinking very hard whether to change HU or not) as I am already quite satisfied with the current setup; able to send out crystal clear sound, with good base........... For sharing:
    I have Rainbow SL C6.2 (2 way component), Sifoni midrange Capriccio C89M, for my front (turning front to 3 way), Helix B62C (2 way component) for my rear. Placed 2 amplifiers (soundstream and rainbow dream 4) and a sub woofer under my seat. Audison Bit One processor (8 channel) to drive the speakers, 6 channel to the front 6 speakers and 2 to the rear.
    I did the installation at Autoimage Sin Ming...

    I m just running a simple passive set up.

    Processor and 4 ch amp - front 2 way / rear configure as sub ....

    All installation - DIY :)

    Up coming upgrade will be to a 3 ways system
    ..........

    What is your total expenses for all?

    Different budget catered to different needs
    Different music also required different set of setup :)
  • 08 May 2016 - 09:30 AM
    500KP

    Need to stock up items for qq

    Yes. Horns since the original one doesn't seems to be loud enough. Can anyone advise on the price to do PPS?
  • 08 May 2016 - 09:43 AM
    Meemee

    Yes. Horns since the original one doesn't seems to be loud enough. Can anyone advise on the price to do PPS?

    The stock horn is embarrassing :)
  • 08 May 2016 - 10:13 AM
    uniquely_ad

    oh crap, seems like 1 of our qashqai bros out there did a hit n run on a parked car :(�

    http://singaporeseen...othing-happened


  • 08 May 2016 - 11:10 AM
    500KP
    I cannot make unlimited posts here. So I will put what I wanna ask in a single post.
    1. Can anyone advise on the price of PPS?
    2. For horns, does Nissan workshop carries the stebel magnum horn? If we get our horns from non Nissan affiliated workshops, will it affect the warranty promised by the AD?
    3. Any reliable workshops to recommend for the a/m services?
  • 08 May 2016 - 11:14 AM
    uniquely_ad

    I cannot make unlimited posts here. So I will put what I wanna ask in a single post.
    1. Can anyone advise on the price of PPS?
    2. For horns, does Nissan workshop carries the stebel magnum horn? If we get our horns from non Nissan affiliated workshops, will it affect the warranty promised by the AD?
    3. Any reliable workshops to recommend for the a/m services?

    1. Price varies from different company and also different type of coating, you can go ahead and visit the sponsors section for detailing to see which company you want. I did my pps too, best decision ever

    2. Nope they don't, but you can always ask workshop to do it for you, of course if you do change your horn if any parts relating to the horn will warranty voided but others still intact

    3. This is more of a preference, don't you have your own workshop last time? If you're new why not be safe and stick to Tan Chong npmp

    Edited by uniquely_ad, 08 May 2016 - 11:17 AM.

  • 08 May 2016 - 11:23 AM
    haronkr

    I cannot make unlimited posts here. So I will put what I wanna ask in a single post.
    1. Can anyone advise on the price of PPS?
    2. For horns, does Nissan workshop carries the stebel magnum horn? If we get our horns from non Nissan affiliated workshops, will it affect the warranty promised by the AD?
    3. Any reliable workshops to recommend for the a/m services?

    Opti-shine: $800 for Diamond 9H coating (5yr warranty)

    Ceramic Pro Singapore: $1170 with nano polish (3 yr warranty and before discounts. C/w other freebies) - cheapest full package

    KGC Bodykit: $1180 for Kube Bond Diamond 9H (one time application)

    These are some shops that replied to me. Minimum ceramic 9H coating. There are bundles and packages which vary prices accordingly.

    Chose Opti-shine titanium package. Forgo the interior and gotten 3 outer coats instead. Ask for discount haha.
  • 08 May 2016 - 11:26 AM
    roycfw

    What is your total expenses for all?

    All about $4.5k less one amp and sub woofer which I brought over from my previous car. Another 1.2k to insulate the car. Look for Teh (the boss) at Autoimage and he is able to configure something to suite your budget. Workmanship is great but price is on the high side.
  • 08 May 2016 - 11:38 AM
    roycfw

    Steerling control should not be a problem
    Richard got his solve.....


    I shall be trying again.... Hopefully within the next 2 weeks to get it solve ......
    I m just running a simple passive set up.

    Processor and 4 ch amp - front 2 way / rear configure as sub ....

    All installation - DIY :)

    Up coming upgrade will be to a 3 ways system
    ..........
    Different budget catered to different needs
    Different music also required different set of setup :)

    Yes, Meemee, totally agree with you. Different music requires different set of setup. Actually, a decent setup will suffice if you are not too particular into the details of your listening. Anything beyond that will cost a lot more, eg. The type of speakers used, placement, good processor, proper insulation to the car.
    I'm sure you are good with that and able to fix the correct system that suites you with much lower cost...it is never easy to diy.... Kudos to you!!
  • 08 May 2016 - 12:48 PM
    richard_crl032

    I am into home hifi. So I am into sound. But car audio is a totally different ball game. I am unfamiliar. Also can't diy as lack installation skills.

    Any change of HU may render steering wheel buttons not functioning well. I have read Richard's posta. What he does seems highly DIY, different level. Rest of us can only watch and admire. Not able to follow.

    Hi Talkie,

    Paiseh to have somehow misled you.

    No, I am not like meemee who can diy and did so for his audio setup and others. I simply look for solution, get the needed part and have someone or shop help me to realise the solution ....easily acheived by reading a lot and yes, spending a lot of $ ...haha.

    I am also into home hifi and have 3 turntables, garrard 301, garrard 401 and michell gyrodec ...quite different and car audio equally enjoyable but more costly cos of installation work that cannot be recovered.

    Cheers.

    Richard

    Edited by richard_crl032, 08 May 2016 - 01:07 PM.

  • 08 May 2016 - 01:28 PM
    BO65

    Was at Komoco showroom this morning. �There was another person who failed QQ 5th round bid, also looking for alternative. �Both of us agreed TC is so greedy giving COEs only to later purchasers and hoping for a drop in COE, hoping (not trying) to get cheap COEs. �All there promises, and now excuses. �We both decided TC is NOT the partner of us - so both of us now seriously hopping 6th bid failed and TC can go #$% itself. �

    I will be writing to both TC's GM and the director of Sales later today to tell them what useless advises received from their SE and now putting the blame on me for 'not being smart with the COE market.' �But then, this might just backfire on me and they might just gv me the COE... �which will then not all me for the alternate purchase - the 2.0 Harrier or Tucson. �

    really #$%^ this TC.

    Worst car purchase experience, ever!

    Now seriously no appetite to look at another QQ.


  • 08 May 2016 - 01:36 PM
    richard_crl032

    Was at Komoco showroom this morning. There was another person who failed QQ 5th round bid, also looking for alternative. Both of us agreed TC is so greedy giving COEs only to later purchasers and hoping for a drop in COE, hoping (not trying) to get cheap COEs. All there promises, and now excuses. We both decided TC is NOT the partner of us - so both of us now seriously hopping 6th bid failed and TC can go #$% itself.

    I will be writing to both TC's GM and the director of Sales later today to tell them what useless advises received from their SE and now putting the blame on me for 'not being smart with the COE market.' But then, this might just backfire on me and they might just gv me the COE... which will then not all me for the alternate purchase - the 2.0 Harrier or Tucson.

    really #$%^ this TC.
    Worst car purchase experience, ever!

    Now seriously no appetite to look at another QQ.

    Hi BO65,

    Sorry to hear but sure .. SEs typically ignorant and dun care and TC management also dun care and leave it to the SEs.

    If Harrier is within you budget, it is really a no brainer decision but it is really different class at much higher $ and better get from reknown PI albeit higher $ also.

    Cheers.

    Richard

    Edited by richard_crl032, 08 May 2016 - 01:53 PM.

  • 08 May 2016 - 02:00 PM
    Blackyv

    Was at Komoco showroom this morning. There was another person who failed QQ 5th round bid, also looking for alternative. Both of us agreed TC is so greedy giving COEs only to later purchasers and hoping for a drop in COE, hoping (not trying) to get cheap COEs. All there promises, and now excuses. We both decided TC is NOT the partner of us - so both of us now seriously hopping 6th bid failed and TC can go #$% itself.

    I will be writing to both TC's GM and the director of Sales later today to tell them what useless advises received from their SE and now putting the blame on me for 'not being smart with the COE market.' But then, this might just backfire on me and they might just gv me the COE... which will then not all me for the alternate purchase - the 2.0 Harrier or Tucson.

    really #$%^ this TC.
    Worst car purchase experience, ever!

    Now seriously no appetite to look at another QQ.


    From qq to harrier? You pray hard the pi don't screw up your harrier deal because you might come kbkp and decided to buy a Q5 instead... Hehehhe
  • 08 May 2016 - 02:19 PM
    Meemee
    Harrier is nice :)
  • 08 May 2016 - 03:21 PM
    500KP
    "You can make 2 more posts until Today, 03:01 PM. This restriction is in place until you have 2 more approved posts." Does it mean that I can post 2 more posts left until 1501hrs? Does it mean that after 2 more approved posts, this restriction on limited no of posts will be lifted?
  • 08 May 2016 - 03:28 PM
    Talkie

    Hi Talkie,

    Paiseh to have somehow misled you.

    No, I am not like meemee who can diy and did so for his audio setup and others. I simply look for solution, get the needed part and have someone or shop help me to realise the solution ....easily acheived by reading a lot and yes, spending a lot of $ ...haha.

    I am also into home hifi and have 3 turntables, garrard 301, garrard 401 and michell gyrodec ...quite different and car audio equally enjoyable but more costly cos of installation work that cannot be recovered.

    Cheers.

    Richard

    Hi Richard. Noted :). How I hope I am like meemee. Haha. My home now I use actives. Make things simple. I have the Adam Compact classic 3. Mdac. I digitized all my music in wav and served via a 256G thumdrive using cubox-i running Volumio.

    Car...no idea
  • 08 May 2016 - 08:10 PM
    dash1234

    Hi Eric,

    Yes, it is still possible.

    There is also a chance the COE might dip a bit assuming Uber, SMRT and those pte taxi companies have got their COEs the last round. If bit a lot, then it plays into TC's game too.... stretch to maximum of 6 rounds...

    Anyway, knowing there is also someone else in the same boat as me,... now I wonder how many of us are out there.. all kena played played by TC. Can you image at the very 1st bid, the max TC placed the bid was already a couple of Ks lower than the COE at time of purchase. Really pathetic. And their excuse was, no worries, your car still not left UK factory yet!

    I really hope future buyers will read these posts, and act accordingly. Not to avoid QQ or TC, but to go in wisely with all these experience in hand.

    Fret not. This is why they have the so call 6 bid of COE bidding. If TC doesn't secure a COE on the last bid, they practically will lose a customer to their rival. Will TC do that? Istupid is it? Their lost is their competitor's gain. Bear that in mind.
  • 08 May 2016 - 08:40 PM
    Blackyv

    Fret not. This is why they have the so call 6 bid of COE bidding. If TC doesn't secure a COE on the last bid, they practically will lose a customer to their rival. Will TC do that? Istupid is it? Their lost is their competitor's gain. Bear that in mind.


    What makes you think they don't miscalculated? Even Borneo motor also can make such mistake... Remember those bought altis at all time low during cny 2015(was is 2014?) period and many didn't get their Coe?...If they have to make a loss, they will give up the deal and do refund... Its a non guaranteed package, remember?...
  • 08 May 2016 - 08:55 PM
    Pocy

    Your case an anomaly and a strange one . Mostly nearly everyone here on non guaranteed got it on 1st attempt for QQ . A handful on the 2nd attempt .

    Hi BO65, I came to realize one point from EricChan's post. Those successful NG got it on 1st or 2nd attempts were when the COEs were declining. Yours has been riding on the up wave if I am not wrong. This could spell bad for your 6th (final) bidding round if the COE continue to rise. Don't give up your 1st choice QQ. Harrier is swee too but not your 1st choice. Moreover, cost much more with the current COE. Consider guarantee for your 6th (final) bidding round.
  • 08 May 2016 - 09:07 PM
    BO65

    Fret not. This is why they have the so call 6 bid of COE bidding. If TC doesn't secure a COE on the last bid, they practically will lose a customer to their rival. Will TC do that? Istupid is it? Their lost is their competitor's gain. Bear that in mind.

    if the SE is anything to go by:

    according to SE;

    1. �TC does not keep track of what was bid for you last and pre times. Ya right, This SE thinks we are all as dumb as he is. �He boasted years of experience and customer returning back to buy 4th time from him and TC. �And yet tell me something so stupid like this.

    2. �SE blames me for not topping up and not understanding vitality of COE market. �But this same SE says 'confident will get' even after 3rd fail. �This same SE says no need guaranteed bid. �He don't need the extra $200 commission from the guaranteed bid. �Now its obvious its all TC's strategy to discourage guaranteed bid - its more margin for them to play the 6 rounds stretch whenever possible. �Gives them flexibility. For every bro here with 1st and 2nd time successful bid, how many out there are not and not in the forum to share their experience.

    3. �This same SE himself does not keep track of what TC actually bids on prev bids too. �And he says "TC is very sincere. �TC placed extra $2k this bid compared to last bid". �But I kept track. �it was extra only $276 from last bid! �WTF. �He thinks he can conn me. If what he said is true, not by now BUT at PREV rounds already the bid amount would have been higher than the resulting COE. �Want to conn people also so stupid.


  • 08 May 2016 - 09:18 PM
    EricChan

    my experience with several SE in TC (as well as having�a PI friend having his ex runner inside TC)�has informed me there� can be�some variation between costs among them.

    One SE told me must take loan otherwise $2 k penalty, others said none and without penalty.

    One didn't give any discount, another gave original $1K but if ordered before certain time a further $xk (stock clearing).

    Part of it is because�whatever extra�it is�going direct to their pockets (in essence they are self employed as they will not be surviving�without sales).

    if orders on hand full,�that particular SE�will not be that hungry that month�and will dare to quote higher.

    if the SE is anything to go by:

    according to SE;

    1. �TC does not keep track of what was bid for you last and pre times. Ya right, This SE thinks we are all as dumb as he is. �He boasted years of experience and customer returning back to buy 4th time from him and TC. �And yet tell me something so stupid like this.

    2. �SE blames me for not topping up and not understanding vitality of COE market. �But this same SE says 'confident will get' even after 3rd fail. �This same SE says no need guaranteed bid. �He don't need the extra $200 commission from the guaranteed bid. �Now its obvious its all TC's strategy to discourage guaranteed bid - its more margin for them to play the 6 rounds stretch whenever possible. �Gives them flexibility. For every bro here with 1st and 2nd time successful bid, how many out there are not and not in the forum to share their experience.

    3. �This same SE himself does not keep track of what TC actually bids on prev bids too. �And he says "TC is very sincere. �TC placed extra $2k this bid compared to last bid". �But I kept track. �it was extra only $276 from last bid! �WTF. �He thinks he can conn me. If what he said is true, not by now BUT at PREV rounds already the bid amount would have been higher than the resulting COE. �Want to conn people also so stupid.


    Edited by EricChan, 08 May 2016 - 09:28 PM.

  • 08 May 2016 - 09:20 PM
    Bezz

    Sorry to reply so late. Realized that I have limited posts per day. Yes. I will first be looking at installing new horns. Am thinking whether to do PPS though.

    I would recomend PPS. I am lazy and usually don't wash my car. My previous 2 cars were washed once a year, before CNY� [laugh]� After i did PPS to my 3 week old QQ, the paint stays shiny and body is smooth like after claybar feel.

    I hope the effect can last at least 1 yr. Then recoat next year.


  • 08 May 2016 - 09:24 PM
    Talkie

    if the SE is anything to go by:

    according to SE;
    1. TC does not keep track of what was bid for you last and pre times. Ya right, This SE thinks we are all as dumb as he is. He boasted years of experience and customer returning back to buy 4th time from him and TC. And yet tell me something so stupid like this.

    2. SE blames me for not topping up and not understanding vitality of COE market. But this same SE says 'confident will get' even after 3rd fail. This same SE says no need guaranteed bid. He don't need the extra $200 commission from the guaranteed bid. Now its obvious its all TC's strategy to discourage guaranteed bid - its more margin for them to play the 6 rounds stretch whenever possible. Gives them flexibility. For every bro here with 1st and 2nd time successful bid, how many out there are not and not in the forum to share their experience.

    3. This same SE himself does not keep track of what TC actually bids on prev bids too. And he says "TC is very sincere. TC placed extra $2k this bid compared to last bid". But I kept track. it was extra only $276 from last bid! WTF. He thinks he can conn me. If what he said is true, not by now BUT at PREV rounds already the bid amount would have been higher than the resulting COE. Want to conn people also so stupid.

    From what I know so far, SE is just a sales person on the ground. They take in orders and key in. They do not know and have no say as to how the comapny's executives in the office bid and do their policies. They can only guess or based on what is being shared w them. In short, do not put SE in your equation in a crisis like yours. In reality, they are not in the picture in decision making.

    Above is just my take. I could be wrong.
  • 08 May 2016 - 09:30 PM
    BO65

    From what I know so far, SE is just a sales person on the ground. They take in orders and key in. They do not know and have no say as to how the comapny's executives in the office bid and do their policies. They can only guess or based on what is being shared w them. In short, do not put SE in your equation in a crisis like yours. In reality, they are not in the picture in decision making.

    Above is just my take. I could be wrong.

    It is so easy to check what bid the car company placed for you. �Its just need your NRIC during the bidding process. �IF you know the IC number of someone who is waiting for the COE, you could actually check it during the bidding period. �

    For 100K and more purchases, the SE would need to do a bit more. �How hard is it to keep track. �And to claim TC does not keep track too? �major BS. �This SE has �degree from UK, and Team Leader at TC. �But it was his team too who tried to conn me into selling my current ride at like 10K below market value!


  • 08 May 2016 - 09:40 PM
    haronkr

    I would recomend PPS. I am lazy and usually don't wash my car. My previous 2 cars were washed once a year, before CNY [laugh] After i did PPS to my 3 week old QQ, the paint stays shiny and body is smooth like after claybar feel.

    I hope the effect can last at least 1 yr. Then recoat next year.

    How could you. The car will cry u know ahahaha
  • 08 May 2016 - 09:51 PM
    Pocy

    It is so easy to check what bid the car company placed for you. Its just need your NRIC during the bidding process. IF you know the IC number of someone who is waiting for the COE, you could actually check it during the bidding period.

    For 100K and more purchases, the SE would need to do a bit more. How hard is it to keep track. And to claim TC does not keep track too? major BS. This SE has degree from UK, and Team Leader at TC. But it was his team too who tried to conn me into selling my current ride at like 10K below market value!

    Ask yourself, is your offer still attractive and worthwhile? To give up your 1st choice QQ cos of the unexpected commercial issues during the process, worth it? A SE would service you up to collection of car, where you will continue to enjoy your ride for 10 years thereafter. I believe you would still want your QQ. Considering the COE latest price and QQ price now, I think it is still worthwhile to pay $1K for guarantee. Cheers!
  • 08 May 2016 - 10:13 PM
    richard_crl032

    Ask yourself, is your offer still attractive and worthwhile? To give up your 1st choice QQ cos of the unexpected commercial issues during the process, worth it? A SE would service you up to collection of car, where you will continue to enjoy your ride for 10 years thereafter. I believe you would still want your QQ. Considering the COE latest price and QQ price now, I think it is still worthwhile to pay $1K for guarantee. Cheers!


    Hi B065,

    I agreed with Pocy and think we also miss on key point on guaranteed COE I.e.if you really still wish for the Qashqai, 1k seems reasonable as it is already the lowest.

    TC also need to first take care of those who indeed paid for guaranteed COE and differentiates from those who did not.

    Cheers.

    Richard
  • 08 May 2016 - 10:15 PM
    Jjlimjohn

    nope. �

    they do increase. �

    but each subsequent increase still will not be enough to make the last losing bid even.

    Eg, the 4th round bid they placed was less than $300 higher than the amount they placed during the 3rd round. �Not even matching or higher than the 3rd round result.

    imho, TC is not sincere in bidding for you. not even matching the last round is saying something about them trying to get the car for you.

    Hope you get it in the 6th bid! Keep us informed ya.


  • 08 May 2016 - 10:28 PM
    Cashcow007

    I would recomend PPS. I am lazy and usually don't wash my car. My previous 2 cars were washed once a year, before CNY [laugh] After i did PPS to my 3 week old QQ, the paint stays shiny and body is smooth like after claybar feel.

    I hope the effect can last at least 1 yr. Then recoat next year.


    Brake dust need to be removed regularly unless you have changed the brake pads.
  • 08 May 2016 - 10:35 PM
    BO65

    Ask yourself, is your offer still attractive and worthwhile? To give up your 1st choice QQ cos of the unexpected commercial issues during the process, worth it? A SE would service you up to collection of car, where you will continue to enjoy your ride for 10 years thereafter. I believe you would still want your QQ. Considering the COE latest price and QQ price now, I think it is still worthwhile to pay $1K for guarantee. Cheers!

    They are asking for 2K, not 1K.

    I am pissed enough that I no longer want to have any relation with TC.


  • 09 May 2016 - 08:34 AM
    Bezz

    It is so easy to check what bid the car company placed for you. �Its just need your NRIC during the bidding process. �IF you know the IC number of someone who is waiting for the COE, you could actually check it during the bidding period. �

    For 100K and more purchases, the SE would need to do a bit more. �How hard is it to keep track. �And to claim TC does not keep track too? �major BS. �This SE has �degree from UK, and Team Leader at TC. �But it was his team too who tried to conn me into selling my current ride at like 10K below market value!

    Hi BO65,

    I understand your frustration. I would be very upset if the same happened to me.�

    I like to look on the bright side of things especially when an event like buying a car which should be a 'happy' event. Think of it as having a 2nd chance to evaluate the choices. Go test drive and start targeting another car if you don't get your COE in 2 weeks time and you don't want to deal with TC anymore.�

    [thumbsup]


  • 09 May 2016 - 08:40 AM
    Bezz

    How could you. The car will cry u know ahahaha

    I have a car siao colleague and he used to (use his fingers to) write "WASH ME" on my car bonnet. Because the dust layer was so thick, the words will be there for months� :XD:

    My previous cars were silver colour so the dust is not too obvious, silver car look like grey colour only. Now with metallic black QQ, need to maintain if not wife will not give me peace, that's why I did PPS. So far I'm very satisfied with the PPS. I did the cheap one by Blacknano� [thumbsup]


    Edited by Bezz, 09 May 2016 - 08:41 AM.

  • 09 May 2016 - 08:57 AM
    haronkr

    I have a car siao colleague and he used to (use his fingers to) write "WASH ME" on my car bonnet. Because the dust layer was so thick, the words will be there for months :XD:

    My previous cars were silver colour so the dust is not too obvious, silver car look like grey colour only. Now with metallic black QQ, need to maintain if not wife will not give me peace, that's why I did PPS. So far I'm very satisfied with the PPS. I did the cheap one by Blacknano [thumbsup]

    LOL hilarious. Any form of pps is better than nothing.
  • 09 May 2016 - 09:45 AM
    Mred1-2

    I would recomend PPS. I am lazy and usually don't wash my car. My previous 2 cars were washed once a year, before CNY� [laugh]� After i did PPS to my 3 week old QQ, the paint stays shiny and body is smooth like after claybar feel.

    I hope the effect can last at least 1 yr. Then recoat next year.

    the effect wont last if u dont wash regularly. and do note PPS cannot protect against bird shits!


  • 09 May 2016 - 10:11 AM
    500KP

    I would recomend PPS. I am lazy and usually don't wash my car. My previous 2 cars were washed once a year, before CNY [laugh] After i did PPS to my 3 week old QQ, the paint stays shiny and body is smooth like after claybar feel.

    I hope the effect can last at least 1 yr. Then recoat next year.

    Noted Bezz, thanks for your advise.
  • 09 May 2016 - 10:18 AM
    500KP

    the effect wont last if u dont wash regularly. and do note PPS cannot protect against bird shits!

    I read that PPS is not bird shit proof but it just helps in the cleaning because of the coating which prevents shit from sticking to the body or something along that line. This will be useful since i don't think I wanna spend so much time on cleaning.

    How about brake dust? As a noob, I'm imagining that this brake dust thingy can be dust off by using a feather duster like cleaning kit. Haha. Am I wrong on this?
  • 09 May 2016 - 10:38 AM
    Mh23

    I read that PPS is not bird shit proof but it just helps in the cleaning because of the coating which prevents shit from sticking to the body or something along that line. This will be useful since i don't think I wanna spend so much time on cleaning.

    How about brake dust? As a noob, I'm imagining that this brake dust thingy can be dust off by using a feather duster like cleaning kit. Haha. Am I wrong on this?

    Bro... consider changing brake pad like NiBK and Vetto which provide less brake dust....


  • 09 May 2016 - 10:43 AM
    BO65

    imho, TC is not sincere in bidding for you. not even matching the last round is saying something about them trying to get the car for you.

    Hope you get it in the 6th bid! Keep us informed ya.

    Thanks Bro!


  • 09 May 2016 - 10:56 AM
    Bezz

    I read that PPS is not bird shit proof but it just helps in the cleaning because of the coating which prevents shit from sticking to the body or something along that line. This will be useful since i don't think I wanna spend so much time on cleaning.

    How about brake dust? As a noob, I'm imagining that this brake dust thingy can be dust off by using a feather duster like cleaning kit. Haha. Am I wrong on this?

    Brake dust can only be scrubbed off.

    Throw water also won't come off.�

    It is fine carbon dust that stick to the front wheel. Buy a small brush for this.


  • 09 May 2016 - 11:18 AM
    EricChan
    ????????????..throwing baby QQ out with the bath water..after 6 rounds

    Edited by EricChan, 09 May 2016 - 11:29 AM.

  • 09 May 2016 - 12:48 PM
    Irsa
    Hi All, just collected my qq 1.2 last saturday..btw how to join the watsapp group. And i like to send my qq to pps which shop can you guys recommend in east area?
  • 09 May 2016 - 02:51 PM
    kumquat

    I read that PPS is not bird shit proof but it just helps in the cleaning because of the coating which prevents shit from sticking to the body or something along that line. This will be useful since i don't think I wanna spend so much time on cleaning.

    How about brake dust? As a noob, I'm imagining that this brake dust thingy can be dust off by using a feather duster like cleaning kit. Haha. Am I wrong on this?

    Yes you are right. I did PPS cause my car is white and still need to wash once a week. Max also once in 2 weeks because I travel everyday and on expressway during peak hours is damn dusty. PPS is not to all encompassing such that you never need to wash or bird shit proof. Leave the bird shit long enough on your car and it will also stain with PPS.

    The brake dust not easy to get rid off because of all the nooks and crannies in the rims. The easiest way is to use those high powered pressured water spray like those in car wash and shoot onto it. Commoners like me use a bucket of water and a $2 hard and soft brush fro daiso to scrub every week.

    You want chillax life, get a grey car, PPS, change brake pads. (don't know if changing brake pads void warranty or not though...)

    Or just enjoy washing your QQ! It can be quite satisfying actually. [thumbsup]


  • 09 May 2016 - 03:53 PM
    uniquely_ad

    Hi All, just collected my qq 1.2 last saturday..btw how to join the watsapp group. And i like to send my qq to pps which shop can you guys recommend in east area?

    Go and visit at the Detailing Sponsors section and choose the variety of choices there are

    Edited by uniquely_ad, 09 May 2016 - 03:54 PM.

  • 09 May 2016 - 03:55 PM
    LPPL

    if the SE is anything to go by:

    according to SE;
    1. TC does not keep track of what was bid for you last and pre times. Ya right, This SE thinks we are all as dumb as he is. He boasted years of experience and customer returning back to buy 4th time from him and TC. And yet tell me something so stupid like this.

    2. SE blames me for not topping up and not understanding vitality of COE market. But this same SE says 'confident will get' even after 3rd fail. This same SE says no need guaranteed bid. He don't need the extra $200 commission from the guaranteed bid. Now its obvious its all TC's strategy to discourage guaranteed bid - its more margin for them to play the 6 rounds stretch whenever possible. Gives them flexibility. For every bro here with 1st and 2nd time successful bid, how many out there are not and not in the forum to share their experience.

    3. This same SE himself does not keep track of what TC actually bids on prev bids too. And he says "TC is very sincere. TC placed extra $2k this bid compared to last bid". But I kept track. it was extra only $276 from last bid! WTF. He thinks he can conn me. If what he said is true, not by now BUT at PREV rounds already the bid amount would have been higher than the resulting COE. Want to conn people also so stupid.

    All this is a blessing in disguise, you will understand why later. All the best in finding your new car.
  • 09 May 2016 - 04:04 PM
    Kxbc

    Just to check with those who have collected your ride:

    1. Where is your car collection point? Is it in the showroom where you inked the agreement or is it at Lok Yang? I remember I collected my existing car many years ago at the showroom.

    2. How long does it take for the SE to run through everything with you on the collection date?

    3. Did the SE collect the cheque (not the initial deposit) from you a few days before the car collection date?

    Sorry for asking these noob questions. I seldom change cars. [:p]� bo lwee.


  • 09 May 2016 - 04:13 PM
    EricChan

    Just to check with those who have collected your ride:

    1. Where is your car collection point? Is it in the showroom where you inked the agreement or is it at Lok Yang? I remember I collected my existing car many years ago at the showroom.

    2. How long does it take for the SE to run through everything with you on the collection date?

    3. Did the SE collect the cheque (not the initial deposit) from you a few days before the car collection date?

    Sorry for asking these noob questions. I seldom change cars. [:p] bo lwee.

    1. Can be either . Mine was at showroom LK.
    2. 1 hr.
    3. Yes. Beforehand . Cheque was first collected and cleared (took 2 days). I think my car collection was something like 10 days later after I issued cheque ( car needed to do final fit up and registration).
  • 09 May 2016 - 04:18 PM
    500KP

    Yes you are right. I did PPS cause my car is white and still need to wash once a week. Max also once in 2 weeks because I travel everyday and on expressway during peak hours is damn dusty. PPS is not to all encompassing such that you never need to wash or bird shit proof. Leave the bird shit long enough on your car and it will also stain with PPS.

    The brake dust not easy to get rid off because of all the nooks and crannies in the rims. The easiest way is to use those high powered pressured water spray like those in car wash and shoot onto it. Commoners like me use a bucket of water and a $2 hard and soft brush fro daiso to scrub every week.

    You want chillax life, get a grey car, PPS, change brake pads. (don't know if changing brake pads void warranty or not though...)

    Or just enjoy washing your QQ! It can be quite satisfying actually. [thumbsup]

    Kumquat, wanted to praise you and the rest too but realized that i don't have any points to praise anyone. No points in my account to do so =(. I have chosen white colour as well. Think it's quite a common colour on the road these days. Anyway, i suppose i can understand how therapeutic it is to wash a car. especially one that you really like. I won't mind washing my car too since it is now my responsibility to take care of it. I will probably be looking at the detailing sponsor section like what one of the bros here mentioned and do some homework.

    Another noob question - Is the brake pad easily located? ��


    Just to check with those who have collected your ride:

    1. Where is your car collection point? Is it in the showroom where you inked the agreement or is it at Lok Yang? I remember I collected my existing car many years ago at the showroom.

    2. How long does it take for the SE to run through everything with you on the collection date?

    3. Did the SE collect the cheque (not the initial deposit) from you a few days before the car collection date?

    Sorry for asking these noob questions. I seldom change cars. [:p]� bo lwee.

    Good questions to be asking. Now that you have posted it, i don't have to do so when the time comes for me to collect my car. Shall patiently wait for my SE to whatsapp me the date. Thanks =)


  • 09 May 2016 - 04:18 PM
    EricChan

    Kumquat, wanted to praise you and the rest too but realized that i don't have any points to praise anyone. No points in my account to do so =(. I have chosen white colour as well. Think it's quite a common colour on the road these days. Anyway, i suppose i can understand how therapeutic it is to wash a car. especially one that you really like. I won't mind washing my car too since it is now my responsibility to take care of it. I will probably be looking at the detailing sponsor section like what one of the bros here mentioned and do some homework.

    Another noob question - Is the brake pad easily located?

    Wah you are a car noob ... brake pad is not plug and play hor.. You need a workshop to do this .
  • 09 May 2016 - 04:19 PM
    500KP

    Brake dust can only be scrubbed off.

    Throw water also won't come off.�

    It is fine carbon dust that stick to the front wheel. Buy a small brush for this.

    Noted, Bezz, thank you for this very important info =)�


  • 09 May 2016 - 04:30 PM
    500KP

    Wah you are a car noob ... brake pad is not plug and play hor.. You need a workshop to do this .

    Hahahaha yes bro Eric, i'm really a car noob. Not hiding the fact. That's why i have been asking questions which most of you might have answered hundred times over.�


    Bro... consider changing brake pad like NiBK and Vetto which provide less brake dust....

    Bro, let me take a look from the marketplace and will strongly consider the options. Thanks =)


  • 09 May 2016 - 05:02 PM
    Bezz

    Just to check with those who have collected your ride:

    1. Where is your car collection point? Is it in the showroom where you inked the agreement or is it at Lok Yang? I remember I collected my existing car many years ago at the showroom.

    2. How long does it take for the SE to run through everything with you on the collection date?

    3. Did the SE collect the cheque (not the initial deposit) from you a few days before the car collection date?

    Sorry for asking these noob questions. I seldom change cars. [:p]� bo lwee.

    Same answer as Eric.

    1. Mine was at LK showroom also.

    2. About 1hr. SE will run thru the paperwork then bring you to the car and run thru functions of the car. I hurried him thru the process as I won't remember what he tells me. Its better for me to discover myself.

    3. Yes, SE will collect the cheque from you after securing COE before they register your car. After cheque collection, SE will register the car. Tell the SE the exact day/date you want to collect the car and tell him/her to register the car a day before that date. 1 day before you collect your car, SE will register the car and msg/call you to update you on the car registration number.


  • 09 May 2016 - 05:53 PM
    Pocy

    1. Can be either . Mine was at showroom LK.
    2. 1 hr.
    3. Yes. Beforehand . Cheque was first collected and cleared (took 2 days). I think my car collection was something like 10 days later after I issued cheque ( car needed to do final fit up and registration).

    Collected mine Sat. After the one hour orientation and briefing by SE, still forget many things like the features and function in the HU. Too many to digest at one go ... haha.
    If you have bidded car plate or old car plate to transfer over, bring the doc to SE when making balance payment (before registration). Any changes after registration, LTA charges will apply hor.
  • 09 May 2016 - 06:48 PM
    EricChan

    Hahahaha yes bro Eric, i'm really a car noob. Not hiding the fact. That's why i have been asking questions which most of you might have answered hundred times over.

    Bro, let me take a look from the marketplace and will strongly consider the options. Thanks =)

    The thing to do when you get your car is to do a proper break in. Search my posts until you read something fairly long from me on this . And don't believe those even if it comes from highly reputable companies who said you don't need to . Because I know these things more than very well - I stop there
  • 09 May 2016 - 08:04 PM
    BO65

    The thing to do when you get your car is to do a proper break in. Search my posts until you read something fairly long from me on this . And don't believe those even if it comes from highly reputable companies who said you don't need to . Because I know these things more than very well - I stop there

    bro, you got over 1000 posts! �how to do a quick search to your break-in topic?


  • 09 May 2016 - 08:57 PM
    EricChan

    Here:

    http://www.mycarforu...92#entry5697834

    http://www.mycarforu...92#entry5698933

    bro, you got over 1000 posts! �how to do a quick search to your break-in topic?


    Edited by EricChan, 09 May 2016 - 08:57 PM.

  • 09 May 2016 - 09:49 PM
    EricChan

    In case anyone is wondering where Forte3737 is, he has been KIA (ie banned)�.. and may already have came back in a different �guise since the 6th May .....

    http://www.mycarforu...1105-forte3737/

    So�who�can he now be?


    Edited by EricChan, 09 May 2016 - 09:58 PM.

  • 09 May 2016 - 10:00 PM
    Meemee

    In case anyone is wondering where Forte3737 is, he has been KIA (ie banned) .. and may already have came back in a different guise since the 6th May .....

    http://www.mycarforu...1105-forte3737/

    So who can he now be?



    Please leh.... Don't dig :)
  • 09 May 2016 - 10:06 PM
    Talkie
    My car collection is next week. Less than 4 weeks after I book. 6 bid guatanteed. Really blessed. Had thought maybe need to go through hsrdship of a long wait. Am really thankful.

    Anyone using tyre pressure monitoring system (TPMS)? Thinkng of buying a set from Amazon. About usd100 excluding shipping.
  • 09 May 2016 - 10:28 PM
    Bezz

    My car collection is next week. Less than 4 weeks after I book. 6 bid guatanteed. Really blessed. Had thought maybe need to go through hsrdship of a long wait. Am really thankful.

    Anyone using tyre pressure monitoring system (TPMS)? Thinkng of buying a set from Amazon. About usd100 excluding shipping.

    Still need to get it installed?
    Or you DIY?
  • 09 May 2016 - 10:37 PM
    Alky
    My battery just died on me today. Anybody called the nissan assistance before for battery change. Not too sure how much. I understand that for battery change within the second year at tan Chong, there is 50% discount. Not too sure tan Chong roadside assistance got discount or not.

    Or is it cheaper to get from outside battery shops that come to your stuck vehicle.

    Any advice appreciated.
  • 09 May 2016 - 10:40 PM
    EricChan

    My battery just died on me today. Anybody called the nissan assistance before for battery change. Not too sure how much. I understand that for battery change within the second year at tan Chong, there is 50% discount. Not too sure tan Chong roadside assistance got discount or not.

    Or is it cheaper to get from outside battery shops that come to your stuck vehicle.

    Any advice appreciated.

    Get aa. Either from friend or own membership . Get them to restart for free with a member or membership. Battery cheaper at 50% from TC . I think is around $75 - there was a previous discussion on battery price .

    Edited by EricChan, 09 May 2016 - 10:52 PM.

  • 09 May 2016 - 10:44 PM
    Talkie

    Still need to get it installed?
    Or you DIY?

    TPMS can DIY. Easy. Youtube has video.
  • 09 May 2016 - 10:56 PM
    Candilious

    Get aa. Either from friend or own membership . Get them to restart for free with a member or membership. Battery cheaper at 50% from TC . I think is around $75 - there was a previous discussion on battery price .

    75.00 is battery or RS Assistant? battery cost 175 before Gst. If at 50%, I think I want to change every year to save the hassle of being stranded.
  • 09 May 2016 - 11:01 PM
    Bezz

    My battery just died on me today. Anybody called the nissan assistance before for battery change. Not too sure how much. I understand that for battery change within the second year at tan Chong, there is 50% discount. Not too sure tan Chong roadside assistance got discount or not.

    Or is it cheaper to get from outside battery shops that come to your stuck vehicle.

    Any advice appreciated.

    Just curious, how old is your car/battery?
    Any idea why it died?

    In case anyone is wondering where Forte3737 is, he has been KIA (ie banned) .. and may already have came back in a different guise since the 6th May .....

    http://www.mycarforu...1105-forte3737/

    So who can he now be?

    Aiyah...I've recharged my 'dislike' for him and waiting to dish another one to him when he appears...now no more chance. I always leave my name when i dish some dislike his way
  • 10 May 2016 - 08:16 AM
    Alky

    you mean TC Road Assit does not work at night?

    They do. If you call, they will make their way down immediately. I didn't want to wait and wanted them to come only in the morning. They say if u want them to come in the morning, call tomorrow morning coz it's different team. Night shift and day shift different team, I think. The car is in my office carpark.
  • 10 May 2016 - 08:29 AM
    EricChan

    They do. If you call, they will make their way down immediately. I didn't want to wait and wanted them to come only in the morning. They say if u want them to come in the morning, call tomorrow morning coz it's different team. Night shift and day shift different team, I think. The car is in my office carpark.

    Would it be just call them to find out price and I assume for them to bring a battery along, pop over and simply change it and bill you on the spot.

    Edited by EricChan, 10 May 2016 - 08:30 AM.

  • 10 May 2016 - 08:37 AM
    EricChan

    Only 1.5yrs... my old ride easily last 2.5yrs+ before showing signs of deterioration, eg not starting at 1st crank but needs a little more effort.
    Is idling start/stop one of the culprits?

    Very likely since a surge is needed to do a start. Also not forgetting your DRL .
  • 10 May 2016 - 08:53 AM
    Tinydot

    They do. If you call, they will make their way down immediately. I didn't want to wait and wanted them to come only in the morning. They say if u want them to come in the morning, call tomorrow morning coz it's different team. Night shift and day shift different team, I think. The car is in my office carpark.

    Do keep us posted on your outcome. Mine is 1 year+ too.� :a-SOS:


  • 10 May 2016 - 09:07 AM
    Pocy
    My previous ride battery lasted about 1year+ each time. Hope battery in Nissan last longer.
  • 10 May 2016 - 09:14 AM
    Stanne

    Only 1.5yrs... my old ride easily last 2.5yrs+ before showing signs of deterioration, eg not starting at 1st crank but needs a little more effort.
    Is idling start/stop one of the culprits?

    Mine don't have start/stop and no other special battery draining gagdets except car cam.


  • 10 May 2016 - 09:17 AM
    Alky

    Do keep us posted on your outcome. Mine is 1 year+ too. :a-SOS:

    Ok, called. They will come to my car at my car park to change the battery. Battery was supposed to be $175,but got 50% discount coz within 2 years. Service fee $35. All in about $130. Lucky got 50%, else not worth. Outside battery shop probably can get cheaper and considering mine is emergency case and they come to me. Save me from driving somewhere, wait and bargain...etc.
  • 10 May 2016 - 09:27 AM
    Meemee
    After close to 1 yr - battery check : still at 100%

    At servicing ......
  • 10 May 2016 - 09:29 AM
    Mred1-2

    Ok, called. They will come to my car at my car park to change the battery. Battery was supposed to be $175,but got 50% discount coz within 2 years. Service fee $35. All in about $130. Lucky got 50%, else not worth. Outside battery shop probably can get cheaper and considering mine is emergency case and they come to me. Save me from driving somewhere, wait and bargain...etc.

    other 3rd party most probably�will chop if it is emergency case.


    Edited by Mred1-2, 10 May 2016 - 09:35 AM.

  • 10 May 2016 - 10:12 AM
    cashcow

    Ok, called. They will come to my car at my car park to change the battery. Battery was supposed to be $175,but got 50% discount coz within 2 years. Service fee $35. All in about $130. Lucky got 50%, else not worth. Outside battery shop probably can get cheaper and considering mine is emergency case and they come to me. Save me from driving somewhere, wait and bargain...etc.

    Nissan supplies the basic oem 55 ah battery which comes fitted with the QQ car. Even TC does the replacement of similar oem 55 ah battery at their workshops for cost reason.

    If non emergency, it would be better to try third party brands like Amaron, Bosch or Varta which are comparable in price levels but would last much longer.

    I remember seeing someones's rental car from TC being fitted with a replacement high specs amaron battery when his car battery died. That is the way things are handled for rental cars where the battery wear and tear is much higher vs owner cars.


  • 10 May 2016 - 10:38 AM
    Fanggee

    They are asking for 2K, not 1K.

    I am pissed enough that I no longer want to have any relation with TC.

    Top up 2k for guaranteed bid? I thought it's 1k? I paid 1k for guaranteed bid.


  • 10 May 2016 - 12:40 PM
    Tazzi80

    Top up 2k for guaranteed bid? I thought it's 1k? I paid 1k for guaranteed bid.

    I think its dependent on the price you paid for the car vs the current COE. He probably paid a lower price for the car than you.


  • 10 May 2016 - 01:00 PM
    Mred1-2

    Top up 2k for guaranteed bid? I thought it's 1k? I paid 1k for guaranteed bid.

    his top up is already for the last bid (6th), not from the point of sales.


  • 10 May 2016 - 01:11 PM
    Alky

    Nissan supplies the basic oem 55 ah battery which comes fitted with the QQ car. Even TC does the replacement of similar oem 55 ah battery at their workshops for cost reason.

    If non emergency, it would be better to try third party brands like Amaron, Bosch or Varta which are comparable in price levels but would last much longer.

    I remember seeing someones's rental car from TC being fitted with a replacement high specs amaron battery when his car battery died. That is the way things are handled for rental cars where the battery wear and tear is much higher vs owner cars.

    Mine is 2.0. Original battery was 60ah. Replacement was 62ah. After hanging up, the assistance was here within 30 mins and it was replaced within 15 mins. Quite hassle free.

    But I realized that they did not connect to another battery when changing, so all settings was gone. Trip meter...etc.
  • 10 May 2016 - 01:19 PM
    500KP

    And I remembered someone who collected his new car insisting that TC changed his car battery beforehand which they did (check old post) . Reason being the battery could have been sitting there a while since the time of manufacture, shipment and storage and is therefore not actually so new.

    Worth a shot when it's time to do collection.
  • 10 May 2016 - 01:28 PM
    Itchyhand

    In case anyone is wondering where Forte3737 is, he has been KIA (ie banned) .. and may already have came back in a different guise since the 6th May .....

    http://www.mycarforu...1105-forte3737/

    So who can he now be?

    Maybe BMW520....
  • 10 May 2016 - 01:38 PM
    Meemee

    Maybe BMW520....

    Mai dig .........
  • 10 May 2016 - 01:39 PM
    kumquat

    wow ... less than 1.5 years for the life of this QQ battery. My 10 year old Sunny (just scrapped) ... used just 3 batteries (including the one which came with the brand new car).

    Not fair compairson mate. Your 10 yr sunny has no touch screen HU, no auto start/stop, no DRL, no wiper sensor, no HL sensor, no back wiper, no bluetooth, no dual A/C, no digital speedometer and other stuff on it, just to name a few. QQ heavy on electronics, your old sunny is probably mainly mechanical.


  • 10 May 2016 - 02:12 PM
    Hoamchu

    Mine don't have start/stop and no other special battery draining gagdets except car cam.

    IMO, car cam with park monitor on is the culprit.


  • 10 May 2016 - 02:13 PM
    Mh23

    Maybe BMW520....

    Let it go..................


  • 10 May 2016 - 02:54 PM
    Pocy

    Mine is 2.0. Original battery was 60ah. Replacement was 62ah. After hanging up, the assistance was here within 30 mins and it was replaced within 15 mins. Quite hassle free.

    But I realized that they did not connect to another battery when changing, so all settings was gone. Trip meter...etc.

    Was this carried out by TC team? Unprofessional ...
  • 10 May 2016 - 11:59 PM
    SDJ4888D
    Dear all the seniors,
    I reversed my QQ and hit a tree trunk. My rear bumper had a dent. Any workshop to recommend and what is the likely cost.

    Thanks you in advance
  • 10 May 2016 - 11:59 PM
    SDJ4888D
    Dear all the seniors,
    I reversed my QQ and hit a tree trunk. My rear bumper had a dent. Any workshop to recommend and what is the likely cost.

    Thanks you in advance
  • 11 May 2016 - 12:05 AM
    LPPL

    Dear all the seniors,
    I reversed my QQ and hit a tree trunk. My rear bumper had a dent. Any workshop to recommend and what is the likely cost.

    Thanks you in advance

    Refer you to an old thread that might help...

    http://www.mycarforu...-bumper-repair/
  • 11 May 2016 - 12:19 AM
    Talkie

    Hey Talkie,

    Many versions available and you can get them steelmate ones from taobao via aliexpress or 65diagou.

    - internal or external installation onto tyres
    - ciagarette socket charged or 12v powered display or wireless solar charged display type

    It ranges from sgd90 to sgd200 but worthwhile investment in my opinion.

    Cheers.

    Richard

    Noted Richard. Thanks!
  • 11 May 2016 - 12:51 AM
    JanJenn
    JanJenn, on 29 Apr 2016 - 3:32 PM, said:
    I just went for a drive and realised it's actually when stepping on brake, not releasing totally and inching forward abit, that's when there sound. Is it normal?
    It is what we called a brake judder or groan and is just a nuisance

    May I know if I change to another brand of brake pad will it solve the issue? I went for servicing, test drove with service manager and he said its normal. But it's really annoying me!!! Can anyone help please???
  • 11 May 2016 - 06:30 AM
    Meemee
    Stock brake is akebono ....

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  • 11 May 2016 - 07:05 AM
    Mred1-2

    Dear all the seniors,
    I reversed my QQ and hit a tree trunk. My rear bumper had a dent. Any workshop to recommend and what is the likely cost.

    Thanks you in advance

    Here...�

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  • 11 May 2016 - 07:26 AM
    Itchyhand

    I read that PPS is not bird shit proof but it just helps in the cleaning because of the coating which prevents shit from sticking to the body or something along that line. This will be useful since i don't think I wanna spend so much time on cleaning.

    How about brake dust? As a noob, I'm imagining that this brake dust thingy can be dust off by using a feather duster like cleaning kit. Haha. Am I wrong on this?

    Pps only act as a few mil of protection against bird poop, tree saps and rain.
    So if u have pps, the company will always advise u to clean away asap. No one dare to put guarantee that after few days then clean away poop will still be ok.
    Even I checked out those clear car bra aka clear vinyl car wrap. There will be stain marks if u left the poop there for some time and higher temperature will increase the reaction of poop to leave a mark.
  • 11 May 2016 - 09:27 AM
    Mred1-2

    Pps only act as a few mil of protection against bird poop, tree saps and rain.
    So if u have pps, the company will always advise u to clean away asap. No one dare to put guarantee that after few days then clean away poop will still be ok.
    Even I checked out those clear car bra aka clear vinyl car wrap. There will be stain marks if u left the poop there for some time and higher temperature will increase the reaction of poop to leave a mark.

    "damage actually results from cooling paint lacquer which contracts and hardens around the deposits"

    http://www.telegraph...e-your-car.html


  • 11 May 2016 - 10:00 AM
    Tazzi80

    Any portable jump starter can do the job , as long as it's a 12v ? Using another cars batt to jump start will hurt the good battery . Meaning no one will help u if ur battery is drain out . Is it due to the start stop technology . QQ 1.2 original battery is it AGM or EFB type ?

    I think its EFB. But nevertheless�anyone can verify�whether the replacement battery from TC is EFB or AGM or similar as well. $175 before discount�for AGM/EFB battery sounds cheap. The problem�IF its not EFB or AGM battery and you are utilizing the start stop only means that the battery will die prematurely.


  • 11 May 2016 - 10:04 AM
    Meemee
    Just start kits

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  • 11 May 2016 - 10:24 AM
    Mh23

    Woah... Troll is back... But be careful hor... Your good friend gotten banned.....

    Please 'dislike' and show yourself if you DARE!


  • 11 May 2016 - 10:27 AM
    Meemee
    Let it go lar .....
    Just ignore is best
  • 11 May 2016 - 11:42 AM
    EricChan

    JanJenn, on 29 Apr 2016 - 3:32 PM, said:
    I just went for a drive and realised it's actually when stepping on brake, not releasing totally and inching forward abit, that's when there sound. Is it normal?
    It is what we called a brake judder or groan and is just a nuisance

    May I know if I change to another brand of brake pad will it solve the issue? I went for servicing, test drove with service manager and he said its normal. But it's really annoying me!!! Can anyone help please???

    Alebono brake is an 85 year old company selling brakes to all major car companies having 9000 employees . http://akebonobrakes...lier_071814.pdf
    .So whether Lexus, Mercedes , Audi , Toyota , Honda , Nissan it is a universal problem as I explained earlier in many posts .
  • 11 May 2016 - 11:44 AM
    Audi2016

    Not fair compairson mate. Your 10 yr sunny has no touch screen HU, no auto start/stop, no DRL, no wiper sensor, no HL sensor, no back wiper, no bluetooth, no dual A/C, no digital speedometer and other stuff on it, just to name a few. QQ heavy on electronics, your old sunny is probably mainly mechanical.

    My Nissan QQ1.2T 1 year mark during servicing cannot restart due to battery flat lol. Start-stop usually not turned off, only additional gadget that drains battery is Blackvue front & rear, mileage 32,000km then.

    I think most new modern cars have most of the above features.. but to know the battery last only 1yr or so is quite surprising.

    Before anyone says I am criticizing QQ again, I am just letting owners know to be more cautious esp. from 1 year mark onwards.

    I think most new modern cars have most of the above features.. but to know the battery last only 1yr or so is quite surprising.


  • 11 May 2016 - 11:50 AM
    Bezz

    My Nissan QQ1.2T 1 year mark during servicing cannot restart due to battery flat lol. Start-stop usually not turned off, only additional gadget that drains battery is Blackvue front & rear, mileage 32,000km then.

    I think most new modern cars have most of the above features.. but to know the battery last only 1yr or so is quite surprising.

    Before anyone says I am criticizing QQ again, I am just letting owners know to be more cautious esp. from 1 year mark onwards.

    I think most new modern cars have most of the above features.. but to know the battery last only 1yr or so is quite surprising.

    At least you still get the 100% free replacement since it is technically still 1st year?

    Anyone knows if other ADs warranty their battery for first 2 years like TC?


  • 11 May 2016 - 11:51 AM
    kumquat

    My Nissan QQ1.2T 1 year mark during servicing cannot restart due to battery flat lol. Start-stop usually not turned off, only additional gadget that drains battery is Blackvue front & rear, mileage 32,000km then.

    I think most new modern cars have most of the above features.. but to know the battery last only 1yr or so is quite surprising.

    Before anyone says I am criticizing QQ again, I am just letting owners know to be more cautious esp. from 1 year mark onwards.
    I think most new modern cars have most of the above features.. but to know the battery last only 1yr or so is quite surprising.

    Haha we are all so afraid to criticize the QQ now huh?
    But yeah you have a fair complain and I do think the QQ stock battery doesn't seem too reliable. That's a lot of mileage for a year though!
  • 11 May 2016 - 11:54 AM
    Audi2016

    Haha we are all so afraid to criticize the QQ now huh?
    But yeah you have a fair complain and I do think the QQ stock battery doesn't seem too reliable. That's a lot of mileage for a year though!

    Here people don't react very maturely & well to neutral / negative responses about the car.. have to be positive then can lol.

    That said.. 1yr or 1.5yr is really very bad battery life. My other cars in the family with similar level of electrical equipment / features usually 2yrs.

    Imagine out of warranty.. every 1.5 year must change battery.�


  • 11 May 2016 - 12:30 PM
    Mred1-2

    My last servicing I had drove nearly 40km doing errands before reaching TC.

    Battery was tested during servicing, 100% health but only 70% charge.

    I guess its the regenerative alternator that only charge during deceleration or idling.

    If you have voltmeter installed,�can realise the readings decrease from 14V+ to 12V+ when u accelerate.

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  • 11 May 2016 - 01:27 PM
    dash1234

    My Nissan QQ1.2T 1 year mark during servicing cannot restart due to battery flat lol. Start-stop usually not turned off, only additional gadget that drains battery is Blackvue front & rear, mileage 32,000km then.

    I think most new modern cars have most of the above features.. but to know the battery last only 1yr or so is quite surprising.

    Before anyone says I am criticizing QQ again, I am just letting owners know to be more cautious esp. from 1 year mark onwards.
    I think most new modern cars have most of the above features.. but to know the battery last only 1yr or so is quite surprising.

    Last time my Hydundai also 'chun chun' 1 year and 1 day went flat. Not free because it was after 1 year. Hahazz..
  • 11 May 2016 - 01:41 PM
    haronkr

    Here people don't react very maturely & well to neutral / negative responses about the car.. have to be positive then can lol.

    That said.. 1yr or 1.5yr is really very bad battery life. My other cars in the family with similar level of electrical equipment / features usually 2yrs.

    Imagine out of warranty.. every 1.5 year must change battery.

    Inputs by owners or ex-owners generally well accepted bah. I would say it's those who test drive once then already can tell A-Z abt the car that gets on ppl's nerve.

    Im probably going to get disliked again bahahaha
  • 11 May 2016 - 02:16 PM
    kumquat

    My Nissan QQ1.2T 1 year mark during servicing cannot restart due to battery flat lol. Start-stop usually not turned off, only additional gadget that drains battery is Blackvue front & rear, mileage 32,000km then.

    I think most new modern cars have most of the above features.. but to know the battery last only 1yr or so is quite surprising.

    Before anyone says I am criticizing QQ again, I am just letting owners know to be more cautious esp. from 1 year mark onwards.

    I think most new modern cars have most of the above features.. but to know the battery last only 1yr or so is quite surprising.

    Haha chill man. I think most of the people around here know you are a previous QQ owner.

    Did you get an external battery for your blackvue? I think the start/stop function of the QQ is horribly mediocre compared to the other cars with the similar function. It doesn't seem very smooth when it 'starts' and it stops and starts at weird situations (when shifting gear from R to P it stops. release brakes and it starts again even at P ??)

    Anyhow, don't feel obliged to mask the bad stuff and share your experiences with the QQ. We can all learn something or two from someone who drove it that much.


  • 11 May 2016 - 02:21 PM
    Audi2016

    Haha chill man. I think most of the people around here know you are a previous QQ owner.

    Did you get an external battery for your blackvue? I think the start/stop function of the QQ is horribly mediocre compared to the other cars with the similar function. It doesn't seem very smooth when it 'starts' and it stops and starts at weird situations (when shifting gear from R to P it stops. release brakes and it starts again even at P ??)

    Anyhow, don't feel obliged to mask the bad stuff and share your experiences with the QQ. We can all learn something or two from someone who drove it that much.

    I had the power magic installed for the camera.. and I instructed installer to adjust the setting so it cuts off way earlier than it should to conserve battery juice, should it start recording when car is parked (not sure if its possible at all lol)

    For me, the start stop in the QQ was okay, not buttery smooth but didn't disrupt the drive at all. Able to move off instantly once I left off brake pedal & switched to accelerator although some people here mentioned there was a "lag". Also, I found the start stop feature more intuitive than other cars because you actually have to meet some criteria before it kicks in.. other cars' one is the moment steering wheel straight, depress brake pedal, it kicks in.. doesn't care how much distance you have travelled.


  • 11 May 2016 - 02:30 PM
    kumquat

    I had the power magic installed for the camera.. and I instructed installer to adjust the setting so it cuts off way earlier than it should to conserve battery juice, should it start recording when car is parked (not sure if its possible at all lol)

    For me, the start stop in the QQ was okay, not buttery smooth but didn't disrupt the drive at all. Able to move off instantly once I left off brake pedal & switched to accelerator although some people here mentioned there was a "lag". Also, I found the start stop feature more intuitive than other cars because you actually have to meet some criteria before it kicks in.. other cars' one is the moment steering wheel straight, depress brake pedal, it kicks in.. doesn't care how much distance you have travelled.

    The installer that did my blackvue strongly recommended not installing the power magic unless the car is being driven around substantially a lot during the day and not left to parked for 8-10 hours before driving again because constant draining of the battery till the critical level left to start a car is not good for the battery. (maybe smoke me just to make me spend more on the external battery also... lol)

    You are driving an Audi now right? I used to sit in the A4 quite a bit and felt the start/stop was a lot smoother than the QQ. Maybe I am just being niao but I really hated the grinding sound of the QQ when it warm start. Don't recall the A4 or Vezal having such a loud noise.

    Anyway long story short, I just turn off the start/stop everytime cause I don't like it.


    Edited by kumquat, 11 May 2016 - 02:32 PM.

  • 11 May 2016 - 02:36 PM
    tgb

    If you intend to put your jump start battery in your ride, please do not blur blur get Li-on or Lithium-polymer powerbank battery. It is not meant to store at high temperature condition especially if you park your ride under the sun. I have gotten myself this type of dry cell http://world.taobao....1192885239.htm.

    It can easily jump start the ride with start-stop function with 1 crank when the battery is fully charged. It comes with the cig connector which you can easily use other car appliances (such as vacuum, water jet etc) rather than to tap on your car battery power.

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  • 11 May 2016 - 02:38 PM
    Audi2016

    The installer that did my blackvue strongly recommended not installing the power magic unless the car is being driven around substantially a lot during the day and not left to parked for 8-10 hours before driving again because constant draining of the battery till the critical level left to start a car is not good for the battery. (maybe smoke me just to make me spend more on the external battery also... lol)

    You are driving an Audi now right? I used to sit in the A4 quite a bit and felt the start/stop was a lot smoother than the QQ. Maybe I am just being niao but I really hated the grinding sound of the QQ when it warm start. Don't recall the A4 or Vezal having such a loud noise.

    Anyway long story short, I just turn off the start/stop everytime cause I don't like it.

    Yeah lor I do the same now.. Not because it's disruptive but I find it pointless & maybe just want to lengthen battery life. In fact, some brands, during servicing, they can help you permanently disable the start stop feature so you don't need to manually turn it off every time you drive.


  • 11 May 2016 - 03:24 PM
    samsarae

    Resemblance�of BP test�sheet when you visit Polyclinic. [:p]

    My last servicing I had drove nearly 40km doing errands before reaching TC.

    Battery was tested during servicing, 100% health but only 70% charge.

    I guess its the regenerative alternator that only charge during deceleration or idling.

    If you have voltmeter installed,�can realise the readings decrease from 14V+ to 12V+ when u accelerate.


  • 11 May 2016 - 07:40 PM
    500KP
    TC threw in front and rear camera as a freebie. What's the brand? Can anyone advise?

    I had the power magic installed for the camera.. and I instructed installer to adjust the setting so it cuts off way earlier than it should to conserve battery juice, should it start recording when car is parked (not sure if its possible at all lol)

    For me, the start stop in the QQ was okay, not buttery smooth but didn't disrupt the drive at all. Able to move off instantly once I left off brake pedal & switched to accelerator although some people here mentioned there was a "lag". Also, I found the start stop feature more intuitive than other cars because you actually have to meet some criteria before it kicks in.. other cars' one is the moment steering wheel straight, depress brake pedal, it kicks in.. doesn't care how much distance you have travelled.

    I remembered my SE mentioned during the test drive that if the temperature of the interior (or something like that) doesn't match, then the start/stop function will not kick in immediately upon depressing the brake. Not a big problem to me and my wife, at most, we just depress the brake harder to make sure the vehicle comes to a complete halt.
  • 12 May 2016 - 02:27 PM
    Eagles_j24

    Hi all,

    Also just ordered a Qashqai pearl white during car expo, and got COE on first bid.

    SE says shipment should come end of the month, anybody else got news?

    hi alextan, mine also end may get car n got it at 1st bid last week, but I ordered it just 2 days before car show. may I know how much u got it at the expo? what freesbie TC gave u?
  • 12 May 2016 - 02:33 PM
    SLAQQ
    My previous ride civic 1.8A battery died on me 3 times. Battery life only 1 plus years and from kah motor.
  • 12 May 2016 - 02:50 PM
    SJGDKK8

    Maybe they will give you my Pearl White. Already arrived 3 weeks ago and no COE after 5 rounds.

    Think you book same time as me... I was considering Harrier, QQ 2.0 and Forester 2.0. Back then QQ 2.0 was 107K and Forrester NA was 102K... Dropped Harrier due to PI.

    If you had booked Forester 2.0 it might be on the road now...

    But buying with NG COE is a risk and reward case... Save 2K take some risk...

    In the end it was communicated thus I dun think there should be much to shout abt... Then again... Understand your fustration...
  • 12 May 2016 - 02:55 PM
    BO65

    May be still got last chance before you give up... �Altho I understand how disappointed you must be feeling...

    Actually a bit excited to start testing the harrier!

    Blessing in disguise.

    today looked at the Kadjar !

    Last weekend looked at the new Tucson.


  • 12 May 2016 - 03:24 PM
    Pocy

    Think you book same time as me... I was considering Harrier, QQ 2.0 and Forester 2.0. Back then QQ 2.0 was 107K and Forrester NA was 102K... Dropped Harrier due to PI.

    If you had booked Forester 2.0 it might be on the road now...

    But buying with NG COE is a risk and reward case... Save 2K take some risk...

    In the end it was communicated thus I dun think there should be much to shout abt... Then again... Understand your fustration...

    QQ 2.0 at $107K was a good price.
  • 12 May 2016 - 05:06 PM
    KoreanLover

    Actually a bit excited to start testing the harrier!

    Blessing in disguise.

    today looked at the Kadjar !

    Last weekend looked at the new Tucson.

    Any reviews / feedbacks on the cars you tested?


  • 12 May 2016 - 05:44 PM
    EricChan

    Actually a bit excited to start testing the harrier!

    Blessing in disguise.
    today looked at the Kadjar !
    Last weekend looked at the new Tucson.

    What about the Honda CRV?
  • 12 May 2016 - 06:15 PM
    500KP

    Hi all,

    Also just ordered a Qashqai pearl white during car expo, and got COE on first bid.

    SE says shipment should come end of the month, anybody else got news?

    alextantc, me too, bro. Got mine during car, pearl white and COE at first bid. Hopefully my shipment is around the same period as yours. *Fingers crossed*

    Actually a bit excited to start testing the harrier!

    Blessing in disguise.
    today looked at the Kadjar !
    Last weekend looked at the new Tucson.

    I like the logo of harrier but I can't afford it. Lol. Read about good review on Kadjar. What's the feel like?
  • 12 May 2016 - 06:23 PM
    dash1234

    QQ 2.0 at $107K was a good price.

    Should be 117k. 107 is 1.2. Think he either typed wrongly or remembere wrongly.
  • 12 May 2016 - 06:37 PM
    BO65

    alextantc, me too, bro. Got mine during car, pearl white and COE at first bid. Hopefully my shipment is around the same period as yours. *Fingers crossed*
    I like the logo of harrier but I can't afford it. Lol. Read about good review on Kadjar. What's the feel like?

    not enough time to test drive yet.

    This weekend will arrange to test the Nadja, Tucson, and Harrier.

    Was in the higher option Honda CRV in usia yesterday - friend bought it rm137K. �Now only done 320 KM,

    back seat space so huge, plus back aircon.... �very nice. �I think sg is $137K or something like that. �And that is the entry level model. LOL


    apologies for the typo


  • 12 May 2016 - 06:44 PM
    EricChan

    not enough time to test drive yet.
    This weekend will arrange to test the Nadja, Tucson, and Harrier.

    Was in the higher option Honda CRV in usia yesterday - friend bought it rm137K. Now only done 320 KM,
    back seat space so huge, plus back aircon.... very nice. I think sg is $137K or something like that. And that is the entry level model. LOL

    apologies for the typo

    Colleague had the harrier I think elegance - 156 k but that was 8 months ago. So should be same price bracket as CRV which I liked
  • 12 May 2016 - 06:52 PM
    EricChan

    not enough time to test drive yet.
    This weekend will arrange to test the Nadja, Tucson, and Harrier.

    Was in the higher option Honda CRV in usia yesterday - friend bought it rm137K. Now only done 320 KM,
    back seat space so huge, plus back aircon.... very nice. I think sg is $137K or something like that. And that is the entry level model. LOL

    apologies for the typo

    Kadjar higher version has a lot of bells and whistles. The red looks good. Think it's diesel . Not so common which is good...( If you are into watch collection you will know what I mean : limited edition model.. ). Question mark is the gearbox ??
  • 12 May 2016 - 08:27 PM
    BO65

    Kadjar higher version has a lot of bells and whistles. The red looks good. Think it's diesel . Not so common which is good...( If you are into watch collection you will know what I mean : limited edition model.. ). Question mark is the gearbox ??

    I drove a few Turbo Diesel while in Europe, from The Tucson model, Audi A3,A4 �and A6 and also the Polo. �The one that gave me problem was a brand new A6 - LOL! �But that was due to a faulty indicator.

    Diesel got no spark plugs, and fuel efficient. �

    The Kadjar hi-end cost 10K more - called the Bose edition, with moon roof, self parking, etc. �But that makes it very pricy for a QQ brother model.


  • 12 May 2016 - 10:38 PM
    Bezz

    I drove a few Turbo Diesel while in Europe, from The Tucson model, Audi A3,A4 �and A6 and also the Polo. �The one that gave me problem was a brand new A6 - LOL! �But that was due to a faulty indicator.

    Diesel got no spark plugs, and fuel efficient. �

    The Kadjar hi-end cost 10K more - called the Bose edition, with moon roof, self parking, etc. �But that makes it very pricy for a QQ brother model.

    I wanted to test drive a Kadjar but one morning I saw a kahjar drive thru my carpark. The engine sounded exactly like a taxi from the outside, probably due to it being a diesel engine. So I dropped it from my shortlist.

    Also, if you go up to Malaysia often, a turbo diesel engine may not be a good idea since most diesel are Euro 2 insteadof Euro 5 as requires for turbo diesel engine.

    One car I was looking at but didn't have time to test drive was the Mitsubishi ASX.

    By the way ��http://www.bbc.com/n...siness-36273122


    Edited by Bezz, 12 May 2016 - 10:58 PM.

  • 12 May 2016 - 11:11 PM
    Keira

    No worries, BHP petrol station has already selling their euro 5 diesel.

    Next time it will be Kadjar = qashai = ASX, all are badge engineered cars in 1 platform.


  • 12 May 2016 - 11:14 PM
    EricChan

    ya, Nissan scooping up 34% of mitsubishi and controlling stake after first bashing its reputation thence share prices, Jointly will be among top 3 car makers in the world �by volume�

    No worries, BHP petrol station has already selling their euro 5 diesel.

    Next time it will be Kadjar = qashai = ASX, all are badge engineered cars in 1 platform.


    Edited by EricChan, 12 May 2016 - 11:25 PM.

  • 12 May 2016 - 11:45 PM
    LPPL

    Actually a bit excited to start testing the harrier!

    Blessing in disguise.
    today looked at the Kadjar !
    Last weekend looked at the new Tucson.

    You are really lucky to be able to walk away from TC. Harrier is a great car, i am sure you will enjoy every minute of it.
  • 12 May 2016 - 11:52 PM
    SJGDKK8

    Should be 117k. 107 is 1.2. Think he either typed wrongly or remembere wrongly.

    I brought during the Low COE, eventually got Forester XT AT 112K
  • 13 May 2016 - 06:18 AM
    richard_crl032
    Hi,

    Just to update on the rear aircon mod.

    Received the parts from Russian and should have realised that they dun fit. Will need to change the entire console but will not venture any further and stop here.

    More details here for those who are interested:

    http://www.qashqaifo...php?f=19&t=3743

    Cheers.

    Richard

    Edited by richard_crl032, 13 May 2016 - 06:18 AM.

  • 13 May 2016 - 07:28 AM
    Blackyv

    May be still got last chance before you give up... Altho I understand how disappointed you must be feeling...


    Frankly, I think he should not get it. With his current perception on TC , even one tiny dot on bumper he might blow it up .. No point. He should move on to other make....

    Kadjar is nice inside out except concern on gb. Harrier is too 'uncle' to my liking although the the interior is classy with leather wrap, those fake woodgrain panel is a turn off for me...Toyota like it a lot but not me...
  • 13 May 2016 - 07:45 AM
    BO65

    yes, �very very unlikely I would be getting the kadjar. �Too much of a Qashqai in it. �Its more of a curiosity visit, and to test drive the 1.5T diesel. If I'm not taking the QQ, it would not be the Vezel or kadjar, �Harrier is high on the list. �Tucson is a possibility.

    Forrester, Vitara and the ASX does not look appealing to me. �And I think KIA is highly overpriced.

    well, �COE might just come down a bit this round. �CheapO TC might finally secure the bid and I will be with the QQ after all. �Fate is not in my hands, yet !

    till next Wednesday 4 pm!

    and I won't be surprised they have actually given away my car too. �arrived 3 weeks already. �And SE's words as good as toilet paper.

    Really has no faith in TC.

    Sorry all bros here. �I don't meant to offend anyone. �Its just this whole experience with TC and its useless SE. �Really pathetic.

    I might be heading back to TC showroom this weekend. �A diff branch. have already forgotten what the QQ feels like..... �its been too long and too negative.


  • 13 May 2016 - 10:43 AM
    roycfw
    Hi B065, maybe will be good to test drive Harrier whether it suites your driving style. My friend driving the 2L version complaint that the power is lagging. Don't be mistaken, I am not saying QQ is good or Harrier is no good. But just sharing with you from what I heard so that you will be better informed before you decide.
    I believe sharing is caring, no matter whether there's differences in our opinion.

    Edited by roycfw, 13 May 2016 - 10:44 AM.

  • 13 May 2016 - 11:03 AM
    EricChan

    Hi B065, maybe will be good to test drive Harrier whether it suites your driving style. My friend driving the 2L version complaint that the power is lagging. Don't be mistaken, I am not saying QQ is good or Harrier is no good. But just sharing with you from what I heard so that you will be better informed before you decide.
    I believe sharing is caring, no matter whether there's differences in our opinion.

    B065 , agreed with blackyv QQ is not in for you.

    However I had refrained from saying this about the 2.0 l version of harrier until roycfw mentioned . The underpower was related to me as well by an owner who I chatted with while doing pps.
    You do want to test drive it .
  • 13 May 2016 - 11:09 AM
    Pocy
    I think 2.0l generally not power enough for most SUV, due to heavier weight.
  • 13 May 2016 - 11:37 AM
    BO65

    Hi B065, maybe will be good to test drive Harrier whether it suites your driving style. My friend driving the 2L version complaint that the power is lagging. Don't be mistaken, I am not saying QQ is good or Harrier is no good. But just sharing with you from what I heard so that you will be better informed before you decide.
    I believe sharing is caring, no matter whether there's differences in our opinion.

    Thanks for sharing.

    Did drive a Harrier - my bosses car few years back. �

    Will want to test again.

    Thanks


    I think 2.0l generally not power enough for most SUV, due to heavier weight.

    alamak!

    dont use the word under-power leh.

    This very sensitive word can invoke a lot of 'noise' as happenned 2-3 weeks ago..

    [bounce1]


  • 13 May 2016 - 11:44 AM
    richard_crl032

    I think 2.0l generally not power enough for most SUV, due to heavier weight.

    Hi Pocy,

    Indeed and power is usually never enuff for many but heard FC is not worst than 1.2L or 2.0L QQ but again, many factors and hard to compare but at least not known as guzzler.

    Cheers,

    Richard


  • 13 May 2016 - 11:54 AM
    Pocy

    Thanks for sharing.

    Did drive a Harrier - my bosses car few years back.
    Will want to test again.

    Thanks

    alamak!

    dont use the word under-power leh.

    This very sensitive word can invoke a lot of 'noise' as happenned 2-3 weeks ago..
    [bounce1]

    Alamak! Sh .. Sh ...
    I must admit that I would like my X-Trail (only one week) to have better drive-off power. After drive-off, power is adequate. It is heavy at 1.6+ ton, no choice. Thinking to take out spare tyre to reduce weight. I don't expect my FC better than 10km/l. My brother shared with me his Harrier FC not better than 10km/l. Both of us more urban driving.
  • 13 May 2016 - 11:58 AM
    Googoo

    Thanks for sharing.

    Did drive a Harrier - my bosses car few years back. �

    Will want to test again.

    Thanks


    alamak!

    dont use the word under-power leh.

    This very sensitive word can invoke a lot of 'noise' as happenned 2-3 weeks ago..

    [bounce1]

    the previous harrier is a 2.5 �liter but this time harrier is using 2l.. i am driving one �now.. power is not super lacking in normal mode.. just a bit slow.. its the eco mode that is super slow.. but then most car if got eco mode is also slow..

    hahha.. anyway got power mode for u to choose if u can tahan the slow pickup.. power mode is shiok..�


    Alamak! Sh .. Sh ...
    I must admit that I would like my X-Trail (only one week) to have better drive-off power. After drive-off, power is adequate. It is heavy at 1.6+ ton, no choice. Thinking to take out spare tyre to reduce weight. I don't expect my FC better than 10km/l. My brother shared with me his Harrier FC not better than 10km/l. Both of us more urban driving.

    my harrier fc tank base average is 15km/.. even urban driving i still get 12 like that.. but then i use eco mode most of the time.. the harrier fc is darn good (for its weight) if u travel on expressway a lot.. i managed to get 20km/l for a 1 tank before as that tank 80% was expressway..�


    Edited by Googoo, 13 May 2016 - 11:56 AM.

  • 13 May 2016 - 01:42 PM
    Mh23

    Alamak! Sh .. Sh ...
    I must admit that I would like my X-Trail (only one week) to have better drive-off power. After drive-off, power is adequate. It is heavy at 1.6+ ton, no choice. Thinking to take out spare tyre to reduce weight. I don't expect my FC better than 10km/l. My brother shared with me his Harrier FC not better than 10km/l. Both of us more urban driving.

    Bro, can add K&N filter and ethrottle to improve your pick-up. Since X-trail body roll is higher, do consider front strut bar (for handling) and anti-roll bar (bottom). Estimated both is about $420.


  • 13 May 2016 - 01:44 PM
    Meemee

    Bro, can add K&N filter and ethrottle to improve your pick-up. Since X-trail body roll is higher, do consider front strut bar (for handling) and anti-roll bar (bottom). Estimated both is about $420.

    You can also change your Hu and add an amp ....
    Don't just change speaker :)


    At mh23


    Ahahhahaa
  • 13 May 2016 - 01:45 PM
    Pocy

    Bro, can add K&N filter and ethrottle to improve your pick-up. Since X-trail body roll is higher, do consider front strut bar (for handling) and anti-roll bar (bottom). Estimated both is about $420.

    Though mod like that will void warranty?
  • 13 May 2016 - 01:59 PM
    Mh23

    You can also change your Hu and add an amp ....
    Don't just change speaker :)


    At mh23


    Ahahhahaa

    hahaha...� Not going to change HU... Amp later.....


    Though mod like that will void warranty?

    Err.... I have installed it with K&N, ethrottle and strut bar... No issues..


  • 13 May 2016 - 02:02 PM
    roycfw
    I have just fixed (plug and play) Racechip Ultimate to my QQ T1.2 few days ago at Fong Kim. Impressive and noticeable increase of power on low and mid torque. Those interested may give it a try.
  • 13 May 2016 - 02:11 PM
    Meemee

    hahaha... Not going to change HU... Amp later.....


    Err.... I have installed it with K&N, ethrottle and strut bar... No issues..

    I have install more things.......

    I have just fixed (plug and play) Racechip Ultimate to my QQ T1.2 few days ago at Fong Kim. Impressive and noticeable increase of power on low and mid torque. Those interested may give it a try.

    Sh.....!!!!!!!!

    But good things must share ......
    :)
  • 13 May 2016 - 02:26 PM
    Mh23

    I have install more things.......
    Sh.....!!!!!!!!

    But good things must share ......
    :)

    That's why you have more budget and your car is faster than me....


  • 13 May 2016 - 02:39 PM
    Shawntcl

    Decide to join this thread, seems like�more active discussions here.

    �X-trail owner here waiting to collect car.


  • 13 May 2016 - 03:12 PM
    haronkr

    I have just fixed (plug and play) Racechip Ultimate to my QQ T1.2 few days ago at Fong Kim. Impressive and noticeable increase of power on low and mid torque. Those interested may give it a try.

    Im scared but i want more power hahaha. Will this void the warranty?
  • 13 May 2016 - 03:17 PM
    November

    Im scared but i want more power hahaha. Will this void the warranty?

    You can remove it any time since its a plug & play device.


  • 13 May 2016 - 03:24 PM
    Meemee

    Decide to join this thread, seems like more active discussions here.

    X-trail owner here waiting to collect car.

    Almost the same platform


    I actually learn from rouge (USA X trail) on how to open up the car ....

    That's why you have more budget and your car is faster than me....

    Don't think so ---- almost the same set up ....

    I got no e throttle and ulitmate as from now....
    Back to basic...

    Im scared but i want more power hahaha. Will this void the warranty?

    Lust for power ....
  • 13 May 2016 - 03:34 PM
    Mh23

    Almost the same platform


    I actually learn from rouge (USA X trail) on how to open up the car ....
    Don't think so ---- almost the same set up ....

    I got no e throttle and ulitmate as from now....
    Back to basic...
    Lust for power ....

    I also don't have ultimate hor...


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