So did the burning stop or the wind blowing another direction?
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curry mutton and susah wesy still have burning
Hehe...suddenly see this thread, for a moment thot haze is back...btw is haze gone for rest of year?
Haze should be over for the year 2015. Haze should be back in Jun again next year?
Haze should be over for the year 2015. Haze should be back in Jun again next year?
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My source indicate the fire-season is over and plantation owners are now taking aventage of the coming rainy season and burnt fertile soil to plant the next cycle of crops.
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Yes, we should be seeing the same sight in about 10 months from now.
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Haze should be over for the year 2015. Haze should be back in Jun again next year?
Enjoy christmas & cny first :)
My source indicate the fire-season is over and plantation owners are now taking aventage of the coming rainy season and burnt fertile soil to plant the next cycle of crops.
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Yes, we should be seeing the same sight in about 10 months from now.
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And the haze for every year is dragging longer and longer! Last time haze season here is only about 1-2 months, but now can drag for 4-6 months!
Wow, still getting Sumatra squall at this time...at least this is more welcoming aspect of SW monsoon before the onset of wetter season from the northenly cold front.
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So now they blame the wind rather than themselves who created this mess? I guess they do not have the intention to solve their haze problem?!
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wah piang ! this JOKER said that on a major international meet ?!����
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might as well use his same excuse next time and say "don't blame my fart, its the wind that I cannot control..."
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Our new foreign minister need to be more "brutally" frank with him the next time.
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Must be something to do with his little moustache...Mother Fcuker..�
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Stupidity really knows no boundaries
How he can be chosen as the V. President ..... 
This is my view from my office on a partial clear day. Taken during lunch time. Some days, it was clearer. I use it as a gauge during the haze season.
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- Can see Batam = Good
- Can see ships = Moderate
- Cannot see Marina Barrage = Jialat
- Cannot see Shears Bridge = Very Jialat
- Cannot see Gardens by the bay = Very very jialat, mask on.
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I see your past navy experience has taught u well in weather "observation".
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This is my view from my office on a partial clear day. Taken during lunch time. Some days, it was clearer. I use it as a gauge during the haze season.
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- Can see Batam = Good
- Can see ships = Moderate
- Cannot see Marina Barrage = Jialat
- Cannot see Shears Bridge = Very Jialat
- Cannot see Gardens by the bay = Very very jialat, mask on.
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I see your past navy experience has taught u well in weather "observation".
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I was the Throttle Man for 1-2 years onboard. The person who actually drive the boat. So when cruising and at fixed RPM, can have time to look ard and enjoy the view.
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Whenever the OOW or CO shouts turn Port or Starboard, if the Lookouts are busy at one side, I go the other side and help check blind spot and shout back, Port or Starboard Clear. Then Steersman will start to turn the ship. This is where you can see how the bridge team gel as a team. No need say a word, we cover each others back.
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During exercise, also help them look for Man O' War. Scan the empty sea for mast or periscope. Once spotted, help shout , Mast or Ship spotted Port or Starboard side 2 O' clock, etc.............
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The fun times....................................
siao liao ... will this moustache joker claim credit if spore fertility rate climb next year? lol
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but some posting commented cannot MARIKITA leh because of haze ... muahahahaha
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Look at the clear view from my office yesterday morning. Can see Batam clearly.
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Look at the clear view from my office yesterday morning. Can see Batam clearly.
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Lets hope it stays this way�
Finally Indonesia is doing something. Hopefully they catch those main player in the market and not to do for show only, then close 2 eyes for the big player.
Edited by Yewheng, 22 December 2015 - 11:15 PM.
Lucky its good newshttp://news.asiaone....ly-forest-fires
Finally Indonesia is doing something. Hopefully they catch those main player in the market and not to do for show only, then close 2 eyes for the big player.
Every time this thread comes up, reminds me of the bad air we had to breath & bear with for months
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The psi page missed the 10pm and the 11pm reading already
MAybe supper break
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Now those guys update Liao
MAybe supper break
I ish cum here rook see rook see
Haze seems to be back
The psi page missed the 10pm and the 11pm reading already
Hmmm...r u sure?! ... ...
I ish cum here rook see rook see
Starting to can't see no shit Liao
Hmmm...r u sure?! ... ...
The reading is 65
No increase
But visibility drop
Starting to can't see no shit Liao
The reading is 65
No increase
But visibility drop
...indo pls dun bless us with a hazy xmas...
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...indo pls dun bless us with a hazy xmas...
Aqi side no nothing
Maybe just mist
Aqi side no nothing
Maybe just mist
Kekeke...which part of sg u stay huh....hopefully its mist....
Confirm don't have
Hehe, ownself chua tio ownself.
Yalor really is ownself ? ownselfHehe, ownself chua tio ownself.
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"" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; vertical-align: bottom;">PT Bumi Mekar Hijau found not guilty by Indonesian court of causing forest fires in Sumatra
By Saifulbahri Ismail
POSTED:�30 Dec 2015 17:56���UPDATED:�30 Dec 2015 18:27
Forest fires in Indonesia have helped lift the country to be one of the world's worst emitters of greenhouse gases. (Photo: Jack Board)
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SOUTH SUMATRA, Indonesia: A Palembang District Court in South Sumatra has rejected all claims made by the Indonesian Ministry of Environment and Forestry against PT Bumi Mekar Hijau, for allegedly causing forest fires in South Sumatra.
The Ministry had demanded a fine of more than US$570 million for damage made to the environment and for its recovery.
PT Bumi Mekar Hijau, a subsidiary of Asia Pulp and Paper, one of the largest pulp and paper companies in the world, was suspected of causing fires on 20,000 hectares of concession land in Ogan Kemering Ilir, South Sumatra in 2014.
In its ruling, the court's three judges said there was no damage done to the environment as a result of the forest fires on that land, and it could still be used for planting. In addition, the judges said the Indonesian government had not experienced losses as a result of the forest fires.
The court also ordered Jakarta to pay the costs of the proceedings, amounting to about US$700.
"The implications are extraordinary. In future, those responsible for forest fires and corporations will feel they can�t be touched by the law, and their bad practices will not change," said Khalisah Khalid, Head of Research and Resource Development, Indonesian Forum for the Environment.
"When the corporation�s bad practices can�t improve, the further implication is on ecological disaster. Haze will continue to happen, and the victims will continue to increase.�
Asia Pulp and Paper was one of several companies that had its products taken off the shelves in Singapore after the National Environment Agency (NEA) launched an investigation in September into the company's role in the forest fires in Indonesia.�
The NEA had sent a 'preventive measures' notice to the company asking it to deploy fire-fighting personnel to extinguish or prevent the spread of any fire on its land.
The 2015 forest fires are estimated to have cost Indonesia's economy US$16 billion, more than double the sum spent on rebuilding Aceh after the 2004 tsunami, according to the World Bank.�
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haha ying liao lor.
Want to bet how much the judges became richer by ? Lol.
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4 zeroes lol.
1% of 570mWant to bet how much the judges became richer by ? Lol.
And the best thing is, these 3 judges will park their money in Singapore.
Edited by Weez911, 30 December 2015 - 09:28 PM.
In its ruling, the court's three judges said there was no damage done to the environment as a result of the forest fires on that land, and it could still be used for planting. In addition, the judges said the Indonesian government had not experienced losses as a result of the forest fires.
The 2015 forest fires are estimated to have cost Indonesia's economy US$16 billion, more than double the sum spent on rebuilding Aceh after the 2004 tsunami, according to the World Bank.
World class !!
No damaged to the environment?
How about damage to the health of all of us ? Including their own people ?
This bring the Chinese saying ??????? to a whole new level!
Saw this thread active again, though haze came back?! Lol.
Saw this thread active again, though haze came back?! Lol.
Now is safe period, can ?? for a while
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Don't forget this count down.
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Since we are in the middle of NE monsoon season now, we have remove least 3 months "credits" from Indo since the wind isn't coming from Sumatra..but from northernly wind from South China Sea..
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Our Northern neighbours machiam uprising. "Some people just want to watch the world burn".
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Even then, �the severity of the haze cant match what the Indonesia have done�in 2013 and 2015.
Even then, �the severity of the haze cant match what the Indonesia have done�in 2013 and 2015.
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Yes very much so.
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Now just fingers crossed Vietnam's upcoming nuclear plants are of quality.
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If not, the haze would be the least of Singapore's worries. We can really experience what it's like to live in vaults like Fallout.
Forest fires in Sarawak which have pushed air quality to hazardous levels are expected to rage for at least a week.
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If you smell anything ...... its not from the old farts in MCF�
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Even then, �the severity of the haze cant match what the Indonesia have done�in 2013 and 2015.
If based on the trend, the severity of haze here is alternate year, 2013 and 2015 serious haze. So 2014 and 2016 the haze should be mild?
Forest fires in Sarawak which have pushed air quality to hazardous levels are expected to rage for at least a week.
http://www.channelne...qu/2537238.html
If you smell anything ...... its not from the old farts in MCF
Wah bouncy cheeks turned ai pee man, the world jit bai really siao liao
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Ipee man need money ... see my hand asking for donation ? $6.9B can already
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Nearly 70 Forest Fires Found In Indonesia, Hazy Weather Possibly Soon
BycinnaboyPosted on�February 28, 2016
Although the region is experiencing rainy weather, it appears that Indonesia are still having forest fires, and their neighbours will probably suffer another round of bad hazy weather.
IMAGE FROM REUTERS3.1KSHARES����������Although the region is experiencing rainy weather, it appears that Indonesia are still having forest fires, and their neighbours will probably suffer another round of bad hazy weather.
According to�a report by China Press, the Indonesian authorities have found nearly 70 forest fires in the country, signaling a very troubling days ahead. Satellite has shown that more than half of these fires happened in Kalimantan, but more fires are also found in Riau and Sumatera areas.
Malaysia (and the rest of South East Asia, including Indonesia) suffered one of the worst hazy weather in 2015. Image from TodayOnline
The South East Asean region has experienced one of the worst haze last year, after the El-nino phenomenon worsened the commonly occurring�forest fires in Indonesia. Most of these fires are�deliberately started by irresponsible farmers as a cheap way of clearing forests for farming. The global community has largely criticised Indonesia for allowing the fire to happen, but despite global pressure, the forest burning continued year-after-year.
Authorities has claimed that they have done everything they could to slow the fire, but if the farmers continue their forest-burning activities, there�s nothing much they can do to stop these events from occurring again.
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Nearly 70 Forest Fires Found In Indonesia, Hazy Weather Possibly Soon
BycinnaboyPosted on�February 28, 2016Although the region is experiencing rainy weather, it appears that Indonesia are still having forest fires, and their neighbours will probably suffer another round of bad hazy weather.
IMAGE FROM REUTERS3.1KSHARES����������Although the region is experiencing rainy weather, it appears that Indonesia are still having forest fires, and their neighbours will probably suffer another round of bad hazy weather.
According to�a report by China Press, the Indonesian authorities have found nearly 70 forest fires in the country, signaling a very troubling days ahead. Satellite has shown that more than half of these fires happened in Kalimantan, but more fires are also found in Riau and Sumatera areas.
Malaysia (and the rest of South East Asia, including Indonesia) suffered one of the worst hazy weather in 2015. Image from TodayOnline
The South East Asean region has experienced one of the worst haze last year, after the El-nino phenomenon worsened the commonly occurring�forest fires in Indonesia. Most of these fires are�deliberately started by irresponsible farmers as a cheap way of clearing forests for farming. The global community has largely criticised Indonesia for allowing the fire to happen, but despite global pressure, the forest burning continued year-after-year.
Authorities has claimed that they have done everything they could to slow the fire, but if the farmers continue their forest-burning activities, there�s nothing much they can do to stop these events from occurring again.
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Jusuf,http://thankyouindoforthecleanair.com/
Fwah hoarders can go stock up on N95.
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RadX does business spike up during haze period? Need to order more wood?
Those indo people never get into their head not to burn? Still continue their burning activity every year although govt asked them not to burn!�
Once the north wind gone, brace yourself!
Usually north wind should gone somewhere on the 2nd half of the year, right?
Edited by 13177, 02 March 2016 - 09:51 AM.
Usually north wind should gone somewhere on the 2nd half of the year, right?
Starts in November
Ends in March /April
Starts in NovemberYou mean the north wind ends in mar/apr? Then wht starts in nov?
You mean the north wind ends in mar/apr? Then wht starts in nov?
Start nov end March
North wind lor
Start nov end MarchOMG, it means the haze will arrive here from apr! 8 months of hazy weather! Thought usually haze will only come around aug?
March. April and May are usually very hot months. � Hopefully the haze dun blow towards our directions. �
OMG, it means the haze will arrive here from apr! 8 months of hazy weather! Thought usually haze will only come around aug?
End around October
April and September is the transition between north and south wind
Usually this Perioid is no wind one
August is haze toughest month because south wind is at its peak
The south wind starts around may
End around October
April and September is the transition between north and south wind
Usually this Perioid is no wind one
August is haze toughest month because south wind is at its peakLooks like mar would be our last month of clear and haze free month. So from Apr to nov, haze might come and go.
The south wind starts around may
End around October
April and September is the transition between north and south wind
Usually this Perioid is no wind one
August is haze toughest month because south wind is at its peakWow! you
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The south wind starts around may
End around October
April and September is the transition between north and south wind
Usually this Perioid is no wind one
August is haze toughest month because south wind is at its peak�
You refer to the North East Monsoon which occurs generally from Nov to March and the South West Monsoon which occurs generally from April to October.
The south wind starts around may
End around October
April and September is the transition between north and south wind
Usually this Perioid is no wind one
August is haze toughest month because south wind is at its peak
The south wind starts around may
End around October
April and September is the transition between north and south wind
Usually this Perioid is no wind one
August is haze toughest month because south wind is at its peak�
Bro, today busy?
You refer to the North East Monsoon which occurs generally from Nov to March and the South West Monsoon which occurs generally from April to October.
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No lah no lahDidnt know your geography so good one.
I just like to learn interesting stuff like these
Today got to run outsideBro, today busy?
Damn busy man
Boss say I got to do means got to do lor
No lah no lahWow! you
I just interested to learn about the these stuff
Prepare for the haze if wind direction change.
http://www.channelne...html?cid=twtcnaOMG! Haze should starts early this year here!
The haze seems to be back.... got burning smell in the sky. East side
The haze seems to be back.... got burning smell in the sky. East side
The haze seems to be back.... got burning smell in the sky. East side
Haze is back? So early? Now only Mar le.
Haze is back? So early? Now only Mar le.
Ur side any burning smell?
Ur side any burning smell?
I was at west side today, no smell at all le.
The haze seems to be back.... got burning smell in the sky. East side
Looks like we would not enjoy clear sky and air for long liao.
The haze seems to be back.... got burning smell in the sky. East side
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Central Singapore also have...
Suddenly strong smell of haze at NE here, jiat lat!
Woke up around 3am to pee... The burning smell was real bad I had to close all the windows and turn the ac on before going back to bed
Hopefully the afternoon rain could clear up the air.
Woke up around 3am to pee... The burning smell was real bad I had to close all the windows and turn the ac on before going back to bed
Haze really come back already?
I can smell haze this morning ... ��
Smoky smell in the air, despite the strong breeze here in the East. Started about 7pm.
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Looks like must faster go buy air purifier before haze officially come back! If not air purifier sold out again.
This year seem quite early
I saw some apparent haze in the morning about 7:30~8:30, air got bad smell. It went away shortly.
There is reportedly over 200 hectares already being burnt.
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I can't believe that that is due to smallholders.
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It must be multinationals companies doing it.
I wonder if Singapore companies or Indonesian companies owned or run by Singaporeans are involved.
I know what I think.
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I also wonder if these areas of forest being burnt supposedly accidentally are areas that have not yet been logged or if they are areas which have already been logged out and have no value for logging companies.
Seems like many experience haze for the past few days, but there is no report from the NEA side le?
There is reportedly over 200 hectares already being burnt.
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I can't believe that that is due to smallholders.
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It must be multinationals companies doing it.
I wonder if Singapore companies or Indonesian companies owned or run by Singaporeans are involved.
I know what I think.
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I also wonder if these areas of forest being burnt supposedly accidentally are areas that have not yet been logged or if they are areas which have already been logged out and have no value for logging companies.
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200 hectares is a tiny land in indonesia..
200 hectares is a tiny land in indonesia..
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Of course it is, but the burning season hasn't started, and you have to start somewhere.
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But the burning of 200hectares will produce a hell of a lot of haze if the wind is blowing in your direction.
If psi reading have not flash on tv, it means haze still not seriously back yet.
Edited by 13177, 16 March 2016 - 09:46 PM.
Smoky smell in the air, despite the strong breeze here in the East. Started about 7pm.
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was smelling it even at the 2nd link malaysian side last night when i wind down windows to show passport.
not just us.. boleh brothers aren't having it easy either.�
Haze is not here yet.
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But the weather is super hot. Had be forecast for max 35deg for this few days.
But I feel like it is much higher.
Maybe as usual, if the weather man forecast above 35deg, SAF have to cancel some training.
Haze is not here yet.
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But the weather is super hot. Had be forecast for max 35deg for this few days.
But I feel like it is much higher.
Maybe as usual, if the weather man forecast above 35deg, SAF have to cancel some training.
If haze is here and plus the super hot weather, then everyday would be a bad day.
I think got slight haze. I cant see Batam from my office window liao and CBD looks a bit blur.
I think got slight haze. I cant see Batam from my office window liao and CBD looks a bit blur.
Lol, you are always the gauge if the haze condition�is good or bad?! If cant see batam from your office window, then no good liao.
You see the view from my office now :
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Compared to when there was no haze.
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Hazy today and started getting alerts alYesterday is hazy. Seems like haze is coming back slowly.
Laos combodia and Vietnam burning
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Agricultural Fires Cover Most of Indochina (12 Feb 2016)NASA's Suomi NPP satellite collected this natural-color image using the VIIRS (Visible Infrared Imaging Radiometer Suite) instrument on February 08, 2016 which detected hundreds of fires burning in various regions of Indochina. The location, widespread nature, and number of fires suggest that these fires were deliberately set to manage land. Farmers often use fire to return nutrients to the soil and to clear the ground of unwanted plants.
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I is see nea the satellite page one
Bro, u are the ???? of MCF :)
Bro, u are the 诸��� of MCF :)
I just make the loudest noise only
Even my wife say so
Cambodia�s exports of crude palm oil have increased, though the price has declined in line with falling global prices, according to an official and a producer.
�The Kingdom exported 17,380 tons of crude palm oil in 2015, compared with 12,211 tons the previous year, an increase of 42.3 percent, according to a report from the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries.
�Malaysia imported the biggest amount of crude palm oil from the Kingdom. Cambodia exported 12,674 tons to Malaysia, 1,100 tons to China and 2,000 tons to Thailand, the report said. �
�http://www.khmertime...ports-increase/
Cambodia�s exports of crude palm oil have increased, though the price has declined in line with falling global prices, according to an official and a producer.
The Kingdom exported 17,380 tons of crude palm oil in 2015, compared with 12,211 tons the previous year, an increase of 42.3 percent, according to a report from the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries.
Malaysia imported the biggest amount of crude palm oil from the Kingdom. Cambodia exported 12,674 tons to Malaysia, 1,100 tons to China and 2,000 tons to Thailand, the report said.
http://www.khmertime...ports-increase/
Moi truck love palm oil
But more expensive than diesel :(
Singapore jia lat liao when Cambodia and Laos also join indonesia to burn forest.
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NE winds from nov to march we get the haze from them, and SW wind for the rest of the year, we get it from indonesia.
Singapore jia lat liao when Cambodia and Laos also join indonesia to burn forest.
NE winds from nov to march we get the haze from them, and SW wind for the rest of the year, we get it from indonesia.
Hope Cambodia and Laos dun use the same you-shd-be-grateful-for-11-months-of-clean-air yada-yadaXiaomi really make everything.
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From handphone to power bank to air purifier to car camera...
So far no issues. Filters up to PM2.5. Happy with that.
Checking the specs again, the following is copied from their website :
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"It filters out over 99% of particles sized 0.3?m and larger, using a H11-grade high density HEPA filter from Japanese manufacturer Toray."
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Of course the filtration standards are�based on�the fact that original filters are used. For this price, I think it's a great buy.
Share good 'kang tao' with everyone.
Xiaomi air purifier now selling in Singapore. Pretty good filtration for the price paid. Xiaomi website advertise for $299. Authorised agent NTUC Fairprice selling for $279, promotion till end of March. Local units, local warranty.
Should be able to get from the larger Fairprice outlets. Bought mine at Fairprice Xtra.
Is filter washable or any issue in finding replacements? TIA.
Is filter washable or any issue in finding replacements? TIA.
Filter is not washable. HEPA filters are normally fibreglass based, therefore not washable.
As of now, Fairprice has not brought in the filter. However, salesman said agent will be bringing it in at some point. You can also buy it online.
Haze is back ... must be due to last nite MU
Haze is back? Where?
Haze is back? Where?
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earlier in the afternoon .... central area.�
Haze is back? Where?
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Afternoon ... the air smell of burning ....
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Sh*t ... still recovering from heaty-ness, and the haze is back ...�
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Hope bros here drink more water in the coming days ...
could it be blown over from the north?
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There's light acrid smell here n the East. Feeling some discomfort in the throat. Thought it was due to Ching Ming festivities but doesn't smell like burning joss sticks/prayer offerings though.
could it be blown over from the north?
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wah! big business in Myanmar!
Afternoon ... the air smell of burning ....
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Sh*t ... still recovering from heaty-ness, and the haze is back ...�
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Hope bros here drink more water in the coming days ...
Hazy in the sky? Could be due to Qing Ming burning? My throat also not very good, on and off discomfort. If the haze really come back, think�i suffer liao.
The number from NEA also show that PSI and PM2.5 is going up.
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Today the sky seems getting more hazy and i can actually smell it when get out of aircon environment.
The number from NEA also show that PSI and PM2.5 is going up.
3hr PSI already at 80.�
I smell it when I left office around 6.15pm ... very bad ...
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Time to stay indoors and bring out the air purifier ... and get ready for masks for the kids ...
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Sian... becoming annual event liao ...
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I smell it when I left office around 6.15pm ... very bad ...
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Time to stay indoors and bring out the air purifier ... and get ready for masks for the kids ...
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Sian... becoming annual event liao ...
Sian, if haze come back now, does it mean we have to endure it until Nov?
Stay hydrated folks.
We have CCB neighbours. Take turns to burn here burn there.
We have CCB neighbours. Take turns to burn here burn there.
Die cork stand.
And they very clever, north east monsoon Malaysia, Thailand Myanmar burn, south west monsoon indo burn. Singapore in the centre, sheltered from almost all natural disaster also no place to hide.
Die cork stand.�
LLSH
Lan Lan Smell Haze
is Foreign Ministar going to fly over and bang table ?�
is Foreign Ministar going to fly over and bang table ?�
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Got use meh?!
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Better take care of our ownselves ... drink more water...
Got use meh?!
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Better take care of our ownselves ... drink more water...
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yes, and squeeze a bit of lemon into the water.�
is Foreign Ministar going to fly over and bang table ?
I thought not bang table but to hand over a fat envelope?![[sly]](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/blogger_img_proxy/AEn0k_srYDVB1oosy6_Yn8Pl4N6Erm_YYZRig9sDRF7gXamOene5ZkZ_8n9BztVo4cte8g1VWoL-APJmRTGetVZmzAVXfeVgBgr-ZnQ-NJJmaUP-GchLlc9kL-AcF3Fmozgrm6Sv6Ho=s0-d)
I thought not bang table but to hand over a fat envelope?
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in front of media bang table, post strongly worded FB message etc act tough to look like he is truly deserving of the salary.
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below table is the envelope ... �
in front of media bang table, post strongly worded FB message etc act tough to look like he is truly deserving of the salary.
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below table is the envelope ... �
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No lah that will only provoke them. Act helpful. Offer assistance, offer hairycopter, offer manpower. Act concern,"bro, I can see from my satellite your country is on fire, you know?". "I gib chew my saterite link, K?". "You monitor everyday, can?"
in front of media bang table, post strongly worded FB message etc act tough to look like he is truly deserving of the salary.
below table is the envelope ...
.No lah that will only provoke them. Act helpful. Offer assistance, offer hairycopter, offer manpower. Act concern,"bro, I can see from my satellite your country is on fire, you know?". "I gib chew my saterite link, K?". "You monitor everyday, can?"
No lah that will only provoke them. Act helpful. Offer assistance, offer hairycopter, offer manpower. Act concern,"bro, I can see from my satellite your country is on fire, you know?". "I gib chew my saterite link, K?". "You monitor everyday, can?"
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yeah, that's politics ... �
Both of you can becum ministars leow
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Thank you, but i humbly decline the offer ... cos I cannot even be MP ... �
No lah that will only provoke them. Act helpful. Offer assistance, offer hairycopter, offer manpower. Act concern,"bro, I can see from my satellite your country is on fire, you know?". "I gib chew my saterite link, K?". "You monitor everyday, can?"
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wait they say:
Bro, pai she pai she, now ching ming, I sio gim zua
And they very clever, north east monsoon Malaysia, Thailand Myanmar burn, south west monsoon indo burn. Singapore in the centre, sheltered from almost all natural disaster also no place to hide.
Die cork stand.Very bad, now not only indo burn, Malaysia, Thailand and Myanmar also burn? Then we only have 2-3 months of clean air liao.
Got use meh?!
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Better take care of our ownselves ... drink more water...
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Water running low in reservoir...choking haze plus water rationing coming soon.
Water running low in reservoir...choking haze plus water rationing coming soon.
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don't worry ... we got newater �
wait they say:
Bro, pai she pai she, now ching ming, I sio gim zua
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Hahaha....so many kim zua.
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"Bro, you burning part of the country to your ancestor? I salute you."
yeah, that's politics ... �
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Thank you, but i humbly decline the offer ... cos I cannot even be MP ... �
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Too many skeletons in the closet???
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Too many skeletons in the closet???
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wait I cannot resist women's wing ... there very the happening one ... �
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Water running low in reservoir...choking haze plus water rationing coming soon.
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No need chut pattern lah ... wait for another 5 years near ge, then chut pattern
Too many skeletons in the closet???
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in the closet got many many blue colour blueray
Checking the specs again, the following is copied from their website :
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"It filters out over 99% of particles sized 0.3?m and larger, using a H11-grade high density HEPA filter from Japanese manufacturer Toray."
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Of course the filtration standards are�based on�the fact that original filters are used. For this price, I think it's a great buy.
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Xiaomi AP is bit noisy.
Nothing wrong with the filtration standards.
But when u can buy the Samsung/LG equivalent superior product on qoo10 for less than the Xiaomi.
Then there's really not much point to getting the xiaomi.�
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The HEPA filter is made in china lah. Just that maybe under this Toray factory lol.
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Got chow-tar smell last night. Phuck the Indons!!
Got chow-tar smell last night. Phuck the Indons!!
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not indons
http://www.haze.gov....atellite-images
Are these forest fires from the heatwave or deliberate slash and burn?
yes, and squeeze a bit of lemon into the water.�
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One of the first things i do every morning after waking up�is to squeeze a lemon into a cup of water and take my first drink of lemon water before doing anything else.
not indons
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You cannot mock the Indons for not able to coordinate their slash/burn problem......
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They seem to coordinate really well with Vietnam/Cambodia to make sure our 9 months of Haze-free days are shortened to 6 months.
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With up and coming newly liberated Myanmar....maybe they will take another 3 months of the year from 2017.
One of the first things i do every morning after waking up�is to squeeze a lemon into a cup of water and take my first drink of lemon water before doing anything else.
Drink lemon everyday will it be overdose of lemon?
Drink lemon everyday will it be overdose of lemon?
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Sorry. One slice of lemon and not the whole fruit.
not indons
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When transitting Hanoi last year I was sure there was haze there.� That was in October.
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Off to HCMC on Friday for 4 nights.
Any haze shouldn't bother us too much as we'll be in the city and it won't effect visibility there although it may well be around.
http://www.straitsti...ll-and-haze-nea
Yesterday haza is own self burn own self , cannot blame anyone.
http://www.straitsti...ll-and-haze-neaSg also started to burn like the rest ar?
So LL lor.
Our govvt's style is always use money to solve problem whether its internal or external.....lollll
If you do a thesis on our governence......money talk will dominate the report.....haha
I thought not bang table but to hand over a fat envelope?
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Yesterday haza is own self burn own self , cannot blame anyone.
http://www.straitsti...ll-and-haze-nea�
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Cannot beat them join them?
Very bad haze here now looking west from Clementi.
Nearly as bad as October November last year.
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on mobile now, can't attach the pic.
the aqi is showing 147 in west singapore, 173 in north...
But donno why so bad leh
The nea map like showing ok ok leh
on mobile now, can't attach the pic.
the aqi is showing 147 in west singapore, 173 in north...
Is the reading refer to psi? If psi read 147-173, if it is� indo haze we are already seeing a super hazy grey sky liao! But overall the sky is consider clear now.
Is the reading refer to psi? If psi read 147-173, if it is� indo haze we are already seeing a super hazy grey sky liao! But overall the sky is consider clear now.
Still blowing NE wind lah.
Cannot be Indo...
Still blowing NE wind lah.
Cannot be Indo...
If indo haze, we be smelling burning and choking�smell in the air with super dim sky. So i guess not indo haze for the past week.
Still blowing NE wind lah.
Cannot be Indo...
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Thai on Fire !�
Thai on Fire !
Not "Thai on fire" lah. Someone had some really spicy food there yesterday, that's all.
171 now in the south according to:
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The smell was quite bad when i went out of my clinic earlier. But AQI was 71 here.
And this afternoon smoke smell 'fresh' at Tampines and SK, like burning from not far away.Attached Thumbnails
Edited by Tohto, 31 March 2016 - 05:56 PM.
Wind direction does not show blow in any smoke..
And this afternoon smoke smell 'fresh' at Tampines and SK, like burning from not far away.�
that's the problem with the map
with so many fires, no smoke meh?
surely at the source of the fire, got smoke?
satellite cannot detect smoke?�
that's why take that picture with pinch of salt
The smell was quite bad when i went out of my clinic earlier. But AQI was 71 here.
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Yup. Its quite bad. After work, when I stepped out of my home can smell the smoky smell.�
From aqi, i note that pm10 is usually 1/2 of 2.5. But now is 1/3. Maybe coz far away at viet area. So visibility not too bad, smell strong due to 2.5 nonetheless
The smell was quite bad when i went out of my clinic earlier. But AQI was 71 here.
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Sometimes, it's hard to rely on the AQI.
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Not that it is not accurate but rather it is historical and smoke tend to be "transient" (quoting NEA).
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Only good thing is you know the air quality is not so healthy generally so mask on.
Not taking chances... bought a new Air Purifier !
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Rather breathe in flesher air ... than suffocate under the smoke by our neighbors ...
Yup. Its quite bad. After work, when I stepped out of my home can smell the smoky smell.�
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Zzzz...very strong smoky smell....
Not taking chances... bought a new Air Purifier !
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Rather breathe in flesher air ... than suffocate under the smoke by our neighbors ...
Havent go buy air purifier yet! Don't know now go buy still have stock or not?
Buy now should still have stock la. Don't wait until NEA declares haze situation. By then, too late liao.
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Havent go buy air purifier yet! Don't know now go buy still have stock or not?
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What are you doing at 3:30am
Sleepwalking
TGIF, yay!
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Somebody sent out this to me - it was a prank for April fool - initially it scared me really badly
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I think anyone using a garmen website to play prank even though is April fool day is looking for trouble.
I think anyone using a garmen website to play prank even though is April fool day is looking for trouble.
I would think so too - but the time n effort it must have taken him or her to do it - I cannot even imagine or must have been some copy cat thing too - I even silly me - went out of my place to see the outdoors too as the weather has been quite unkind for the last 8 days no rain
is it me or is extra hot today?
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but this year's Qingming probably will not have a single drop of rain
is it me or is extra hot today?
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but this year's Qingming probably will not have a single drop of rain
Is super hot.
Mar already the hottest month for the past 100 yrs.
Don't think it will rain for qingming.
Lucky this afternoon air quality look/smell OK.
hope we won't break the highest temp record this year
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too hot to bear
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is it me or is extra hot today?
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but this year's Qingming probably will not have a single drop of rain
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Not only you... I am hot and super hot too
Arrrggg..... perspire like mad .... going to have 2nd shower soon ...
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Oh ya, do drink more water :)
Finally, rain is here. Punggol here
Finally, rain is here. Punggol here
3mins rain at Sent Kang. Useless.
No rain here in Marine Parade leh ... can see the grasses turning brown ....
Did smell some haziness last night... so, turned on air purifier to go sleep ... and oh boy, slept well� :))
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If no rain, haze comes, and shortage of water... will be double blow for us ....
Cool :) and haze away :))
Finally raining here in Marine Parade :))
Cool :) and haze away :))�
How long did it rain for? TPY also rained. But 3-5min only...
How long did it rain for? TPY also rained. But 3-5min only...
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Rained for about 15-20 mins ...
Now, the greens are back in the grasses .. and the birds are singing :))
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Hope the haze won't come back so soon ... and the weather can be a bit cooler for this week ..
Rained for about 15-20 mins ...
Now, the greens are back in the grasses .. and the birds are singing :))
Hope the haze won't come back so soon ... and the weather can be a bit cooler for this week ..
today in orchard...
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saw lion dance competition thingy (like movie lion men) at cathey
and jack neo mark leewith the rest actors/esses promoting "long long time ago 2) outside plaza sg
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no rain
only haiz....so hot
How long did it rain for? TPY also rained. But 3-5min only...
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TPY HOT property ... only can rain 5min max�
Stay indoor, stay in office... to experience the aircon (free)...
Cannot dahan the heat ...
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Luckily didn't smell any haze ... ah choi !
Kanasai,�i got window behind my desk. Even office aircon also struggling to cool my room down.
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Think I need to come to work in board shorts, t-shirt and flip-flops liao. And must go commando, or else sweaty and sticky.
Kanasai,�i got window behind my desk. Even office aircon also struggling to cool my room down.
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Think I need to come to work in board shorts, t-shirt and flip-flops liao. And must go commando, or else sweaty and sticky.
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Thatz what my angmo managers do. Where bermuda, slippers and t-shirt to work. Come office change and work. They have a purpose built wardrobe for their office shirts. They all buay tahan SG weather.
Luckily recent super hot weather doesn't comes with the haze, if not even suffer more.
Raining now :))
Shiok :))
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But don't flood can� liao
Zhun zhun�I kpkb now heavy rain here.
Raining now :))
Shiok :))
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But don't flood can� liao
Where raining?
http://aqicn.org/city/singapore/west/#
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curry nah......wake up open room door already can smell chao da bee liao......
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all the way to work the smell getting stronger, outside also hazy.....psi only this level ??
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i stay and work in the west....
Didn't smell in Bukit Merah area ....
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Hopefully don't smell anything throughout the day and weekend ...
Now winds are blowing towards Jakarta. I wish the Indonesians will start burning now.
63 at West side from NEA... I don't believe... Wake up already damn hazy.
My wife just called to say hazy in eastern side...
Ok, told her ON the air purifier ....
SOP in place� !
The south here looks same as the past few days. Not hazy IMO.
Today sky is hazy! Is indo haze official come back liao?
Today sky is hazy! Is indo haze official come back liao?
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Maybe smoke from all the artillery shells�used in�the continuous salvos between Lee�vs�ST�vs Lee? �
Maybe smoke from all the artillery shells�used in�the continuous salvos between Lee�vs�ST�vs Lee? �
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Thought cease fire liao?!
So, should have no haze le lah :)
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Look at the hot spot in Thailand, Laos and Cambodia...
Huh ?? Really ?? Cannot believe so many fires up North ???
Look at the hot spot in Thailand, Laos and Cambodia...
wow.
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but the winds are blowing towards the north currently right?
Looks like if the wind change direction and blow towards us, we are going to have�quite a�jialat haze this year as compared with last year,�since now not only indo would be burning.
Look at the hot spot in Thailand, Laos and Cambodia...
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rooks like
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nea picture: shit just got real!!!
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http://www.haze.gov....atellite-images
hahahaha, i almost burst out laughing when i saw this
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http://www.channelne...ar/2698558.html
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SINGAPORE: There is "zero chance" that the region will experience the same bout of haze this year as it did in 2015, according to the Head of the Peatland Restoration Agency in Indonesia, Mr Nazir Foead.
This is due to the determination from the government, palm oil and pulp and paper companies, and the community to make sure that steps are taken to ensure that fires do not break out on peatlands, added Mr Nazir, who was speaking at the third Sustainable World Resources dialogue on Friday (Apr 15).�
The Peatland Restoration Agency was set up in January this year by Indonesian President Joko Widodo to restore about 2 million hectares of peatland that have been damaged by fires.
It is a move by the Indonesian government to prevent fires from happening, which is a shift from a focus on mitigation efforts in the past.
The agency is now in the process of creating more detailed maps to complement the�One Map initiative. This will be completed in the next two to three months.
It is also urging companies to play their part in restoring peatlands, which is something touched on by Singapore's Environment and Water Resources Minister Masagos Zulkifli at the same event.
"Agro-forestry companies should take full responsibility for fire prevention and mitigation in their concessions. There must not be a repeat, for example, of last year's fires... Companies should invest in efforts to rehabilitate degraded and fire-prone peatlands. Companies must ensure that sustainable policies and practices don't stop with them," said Mr Masagos.
Restoration involves rewetting the carbon-rich peatlands, which burn easily when dry. The agency wants to create dams and canals to increase the water level in peatlands. It will also identify other types of crops besides palm oil that can grow well on peatlands, like the sago plant.
Mr Nazir added the agency is in talks with the Singapore Environment Council (SEC), to consider including companies' efforts in peatland restoration as a criteria in issuing the Singapore Green Label certification.�
"SEC has just announced that it is now taking it further and working on a new category for products with pulp and paper, which will include in its criteria the requirement for peatland management and fire prevention standards. When fully developed, I believe this standard will be the most holistic certification standard for pulp and paper in the world," said Mr Masagos.�
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They mean "zero chance" that this year would not have indo haze?
� Or they mean��"zero chance" that indo would not burn as usual this year?
Edited by 13177, 15 April 2016 - 01:58 PM.
When we were flying up to Ho Chi Min City recently just north of Sedili and south of Mersing you could see 2 or 3 fires and the smoke was all travelling in the direction of Singapore.
I'd guess the smoke was below 1000 feet maybe below 500 ft so I'm not sure why that hot spot map above shows wind direction at 2500ft.
They mean "zero chance" that this year would not have indo haze?
After reading the words 'zero chance', rest of article to me was just blah blah blah ..........
To me, the statement "'zero chance' it won't be the same as 2015 " means that it will be worse than last yearA director of an Indonesian company suspected of contributing to last year's haze did not turn up for an interview with the authorities here, even though he was served with a legal notice to attend it when he was in Singapore.
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But the director, who has since left Singapore, can be detained if he tries to enter Singapore again.
The National Environment Agency (NEA) said yesterday that it has obtained a court warrant against the director to secure his attendance when he enters Singapore. It did not name him or his company, which is believed to have started fires or let its concessions burn.
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http://www.straitsti...-firms-director
NEA gets court warrant against haze-linked firm's director
A director of an Indonesian company suspected of contributing to last year's haze did not turn up for an interview with the authorities here, even though he was served with a legal notice to attend it when he was in Singapore.
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But the director, who has since left Singapore, can be detained if he tries to enter Singapore again.
The National Environment Agency (NEA) said yesterday that it has obtained a court warrant against the director to secure his attendance when he enters Singapore. It did not name him or his company, which is believed to have started fires or let its concessions burn.
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http://www.straitsti...-firms-director
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cheong gong the guy money, property, cars, toys, toilet bowl
he sure turn up
NEA gets court warrant against haze-linked firm's director
A director of an Indonesian company suspected of contributing to last year's haze did not turn up for an interview with the authorities here, even though he was served with a legal notice to attend it when he was in Singapore.
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But the director, who has since left Singapore, can be detained if he tries to enter Singapore again.
The National Environment Agency (NEA) said yesterday that it has obtained a court warrant against the director to secure his attendance when he enters Singapore. It did not name him or his company, which is believed to have started fires or let its concessions burn.
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http://www.straitsti...-firms-director
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CB lah. I only see NEA and the minister's name.
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What is the firm's and the director's name?
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Say like never say like that....
CB lah. I only see NEA and the minister's name.
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What is the firm's and the director's name?
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Say like never say like that....
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http://www.straitsti...662#xtor=CS1-10
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"Mr Arrmanatha reiterated that the Indonesian government is not in favour of the law."
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The gall of these people - to tell us that they are not in favour of �our laws.
http://www.straitsti...662#xtor=CS1-10
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"Mr Arrmanatha reiterated that the Indonesian government is not in favour of the law."
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The gall of these people - to tell us that they are not in favour of �our laws.
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He does not have to like our law, just abide by it whenever stepping onto this little red dot will do. Same thing, our folks are required to keep quiet when going thru' Batam customs.
http://www.straitsti...662#xtor=CS1-10
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"Mr Arrmanatha reiterated that the Indonesian government is not in favour of the law."
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The gall of these people - to tell us that they are not in favour of �our laws.
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Pls lah Mr�Arrmanatha, if your colleague did his job in the first place, we won't be cleaning your shit.
Follow up outcome of NEA court warrant action?
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All procedures concerning planned bilateral collaborations in environment and forestry matters with Singapore�have reportedly been put on hold.Indonesia reviewing cooperation with Singapore in environment, forestry matters: Reporthttp://www.channelne...ng/2786818.html
He does not have to like our law, just abide by it whenever stepping onto this little red dot will do. Same thing, our folks are required to keep quiet when going thru' Batam customs.
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Maybe� he still have the thinking that SG is another island�belongs to Indonesia ....
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This morning the sky seems a bit hazy?!
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Indonesia's largest pulp and paper firm is selling its vacant premises in Pioneer Road at an indicative value of above $40 million.
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The site was put up for auction in 2007 by the Inland Revenue Authority of Singapore after Asia Pulp and Paper (APP) failed to pay more than $1.8 million in property taxes.
But the property was withdrawn from auction after the company settled the tax bill.
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http://www.straitsti...in-pioneer-road
big leech conglomerate also run property tax ... integrity issue here ...�
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APP seeks buyer for factory site in Pioneer Road
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Indonesia's largest pulp and paper firm is selling its vacant premises in Pioneer Road at an indicative value of above $40 million.
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The site was put up for auction in 2007 by the Inland Revenue Authority of Singapore after Asia Pulp and Paper (APP) failed to pay more than $1.8 million in property taxes.
But the property was withdrawn from auction after the company settled the tax bill.
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http://www.straitsti...in-pioneer-road
big leech conglomerate also run property tax ... integrity issue here ...�
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Wow, u scare me leh. Today weather very clear. Can see Batam island from my office.
Wow, u scare me leh. Today weather very clear. Can see Batam island from my office.
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Important to ???? since haze confirm will come de. I have already bought my air purfier and�stock up my masks�liao, and hopefully can tide me over this year haze season. Lol.
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Thanks for the info :)
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Have already stock up on the masks as well as bought air purifier liao :)
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Singapore is 1 of the biggest producer of N95 mask. Why have to go Amazon?
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Juz go qoo10.com.
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La Nina is coming.� Very low chance of haze this year.
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For long hour usage, i find Air+ more comfortable.� But need to buy 2 fan.� Each fan can only last 2 hrs.
Sure low chance of haze this year?
Sure low chance of haze this year?
It was over 400 points this time 3yrs ago.
JAKARTA �Indonesia�s Peatland Restoration Agency (BRG) has hit out at Asia Pulp and Paper (APP), whose products were pulled off the shelves from supermarkets in Singapore over alleged links to firms responsible for forest fires that caused the haze, saying that the company was being �uncooperative� in providing data as part of BRG�s peatland restoration efforts.
Mr Nazir Foead, who heads BRG, said many firms have submitted data that includes concession maps of their holdings. But APP, one of the world�s largest pulp and paper companies, has yet to do so, he said. �Many companies submitted their data, but one company has been uncooperative and appears to not be serious. I�ll just disclose the name so it is aware of its faults. It�s APP,� he was quoted as saying by Jakarta Post.
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http://www.todayonli...oration-efforts
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I would think so.
It was over 400 points this time 3yrs ago.But last year haze also came in�around aug, and worsen over the months until dec lo. So still too early to tell if there is low chance of�haze or not?
APP refuse to pay "membership fees" to the BRG issit?
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APP �uncooperative� in peatland restoration efforts
JAKARTA �Indonesia�s Peatland Restoration Agency (BRG) has hit out at Asia Pulp and Paper (APP), whose products were pulled off the shelves from supermarkets in Singapore over alleged links to firms responsible for forest fires that caused the haze, saying that the company was being �uncooperative� in providing data as part of BRG�s peatland restoration efforts.
Mr Nazir Foead, who heads BRG, said many firms have submitted data that includes concession maps of their holdings. But APP, one of the world�s largest pulp and paper companies, has yet to do so, he said. �Many companies submitted their data, but one company has been uncooperative and appears to not be serious. I�ll just disclose the name so it is aware of its faults. It�s APP,� he was quoted as saying by Jakarta Post.
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http://www.todayonli...oration-efforts
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The pulp and paper giant says that it submitted required data to the Environment and Forestry Ministry on May 11, but Indonesia's Peatland Restoration Agency says it has "undeniable evidence that the chronology... constitutes a public lie"......
http://www.channelne...cy/2861872.html
Indonesia will not allow its citizens to be prosecuted under Singapore laws: VP Kalla
http://www.channelne...ow/2866306.html
Real ccb
Indonesia will not allow its citizens to be prosecuted under Singapore laws: VP Kalla
http://www.channelne...ow/2866306.html�
CCB indon
Indonesia's environment minister lashed out Monday at Singapore for failing to show "respect" after the city-state tried to question the director of an Indonesian company over last year's haze outbreak.
It was the latest row between the neighbours over the smog-belching Indonesian forest fires that choked Singapore, Malaysia and other parts of the region with acrid smog for weeks.
The blazes are an annual occurrence during the dry season as land is cleared using slash-and-burn methods but they were the worst for some time in 2015, with Singapore particularly angered at what it said was Jakarta's failure to take action.
Tempers frayed again after Singapore last month tried to call in the director of an Indonesian company suspected of being linked to the haze for questioning when the individual was in the city-state, Singaporean media reported.
Jakarta is furious at what it sees as a violation of its sovereignty, and Environment Minister Siti Nurbaya Bakar stepped up the angry rhetoric Monday.
"The most important principle is that cooperation is done with respect for each country's sovereignty," she told reporters in Jakarta.
"What has been done by Singapore, in my opinion, does not show their mutual respect to Indonesia."
Bakar said she was seeking a review of "of all issues of cooperation with Singapore concerning the environment and forestry".
She also pointed out that the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, a 10-member regional bloc that includes Indonesia and Singapore, had an agreement to deal with forest fires that was based on cooperation.
Her comments came after Indonesia's Vice President Jusuf Kalla insisted that Singapore cannot take legal action against Indonesian citizens.
The director of the firm called in by Singaporean authorities reportedly did not turn up for the interview despite being served with a legal notice and has since left the city-state. The individual or the firm were not named in the reports.
Singapore is seeking to take legal action under a 2014 law that allows the city-state to levy heavy fines on local or foreign companies that contribute to unhealthy levels of haze pollution in the city-state.
Singapore has also given notices to six Indonesian-based firms, asking them to explain what they are doing to put out fires on their land.
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Forest fires in Indonesia produced acrid smog that shrouded Singapore, Malaysia and other parts of the region for weeks in 2015 More
Indonesia's environment minister lashed out Monday at Singapore for failing to show "respect" after the city-state tried to question the director of an Indonesian company over last year's haze outbreak.
It was the latest row between the neighbours over the smog-belching Indonesian forest fires that choked Singapore, Malaysia and other parts of the region with acrid smog for weeks.
The blazes are an annual occurrence during the dry season as land is cleared using slash-and-burn methods but they were the worst for some time in 2015, with Singapore particularly angered at what it said was Jakarta's failure to take action.
Tempers frayed again after Singapore last month tried to call in the director of an Indonesian company suspected of being linked to the haze for questioning when the individual was in the city-state, Singaporean media reported.
Jakarta is furious at what it sees as a violation of its sovereignty, and Environment Minister Siti Nurbaya Bakar stepped up the angry rhetoric Monday.
"The most important principle is that cooperation is done with respect for each country's sovereignty," she told reporters in Jakarta.
"What has been done by Singapore, in my opinion, does not show their mutual respect to Indonesia."
Bakar said she was seeking a review of "of all issues of cooperation with Singapore concerning the environment and forestry".
She also pointed out that the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, a 10-member regional bloc that includes Indonesia and Singapore, had an agreement to deal with forest fires that was based on cooperation.
Her comments came after Indonesia's Vice President Jusuf Kalla insisted that Singapore cannot take legal action against Indonesian citizens.
The director of the firm called in by Singaporean authorities reportedly did not turn up for the interview despite being served with a legal notice and has since left the city-state. The individual or the firm were not named in the reports.
Singapore is seeking to take legal action under a 2014 law that allows the city-state to levy heavy fines on local or foreign companies that contribute to unhealthy levels of haze pollution in the city-state.
Singapore has also given notices to six Indonesian-based firms, asking them to explain what they are doing to put out fires on their land.
How much was she paid?
When your smoke affects your neighbours you are show great respect?
How much was she paid?
Obviously not enough to shut her mouth.
JAKARTA (AFP) - Singapore is refusing to back down in its pursuit of those responsible for haze-belching forest fires in South-east Asia last year, despite struggling to bring the perpetrators before the courts and drawing a sharp rebuke from neighbouring Indonesia.
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Forest fires are part of an annual dry-season problem in Indonesia, started illegally to quickly and cheaply clear land for cultivation - particularly for palm oil and pulpwood.
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But last year's haze outbreak was among the worst in memory, shrouding Malaysia, Singapore, and parts of Thailand in acrid smoke and forcing school closures as pollution reached hazardous levels and thousands fell sick across the region.
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Singapore has served notice to six Indonesian companies it believes may have cleared land by burning but could target others as investigations continue, according to Singapore's ambassador to Indonesia Anil Kumar Nayar.
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"We are going after, to put it starkly, the bad guys that are causing this problem," he told AFP in an interview last week.
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However, the city-state's efforts to punish Indonesian companies under its own anti-haze law have become a flashpoint with Jakarta.
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Singapore argues that international rules allow states to take action - even if harm is being caused by activities outside its jurisdiction - but Jakarta has questioned how Singapore could pursue Indonesian citizens for prosecution, especially in the absence of a ratified extradition treaty between the neighbours.
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The latest sabre-rattling came after Singapore issued a court warrant in May to detain a director of an Indonesian company linked to the haze while he was in the city-state.
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Afterwards, Indonesia's Environment Minister Siti Nurbaya Bakar said that she would be reviewing her ministry's cooperation with Singapore on environmental issues.
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"Singapore cannot step further into Indonesia's legal domain," Bakar told reporters in June. Her spokesman declined to comment further on the matter when contacted.
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Nayar reiterated that Singapore wasn't crossing any line pursuing these companies and was within its rights to enforce its law.
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"We are not doing something that is extraordinary. It is not targeting any country, or anybody's sovereignty," he said.
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The law threatens local and foreign firms with fines of up to S$100,000 for every day Singapore endures unhealthy haze pollution.
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So far just two of the companies have responded to the court order, Nayar said, without naming specific firms.
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Singapore has repeatedly asked Indonesia for details about companies - such as maps showing who owns what concessions - but says Jakarta has not provided any information.
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Singapore would "continue to press", Nayar said, but added the evidence needed to prosecute these companies could be found by other means.
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"We could go that way as well, but at the end of the day this is part of a legal process. We want to be working with the Indonesian government," he said.
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One of Indonesia's main arguments is that a regional approach to solving the haze crisis would be more effective than individual action.
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"They (Singapore) know our view on this, on how we can best address this issue of haze through the Asean mechanism," ministry spokesman Arrmanatha Nasir told AFP.
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The Association of Southeast Asian Nations has an agreement to create a haze-free region by 2020, though it took 14 years to be fully ratified.
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Nayar says regional progress on curbing haze has been slow.
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Fellow Asean member Malaysia, which also suffers during the haze outbreaks, has expressed interest in adopting its own law similar to Singapore's to pursue errant companies.
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Jakarta has promised tougher action in the wake of last year's haze disaster, which turned skies yellow in Indonesia's part of Borneo island and dealt the economy a US$16 billion blow.
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The government announced in May it would no longer grant new land for palm oil plantations, and established a new agency to restore millions of hectares of carbon-rich peatlands susceptible to fires.
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With the increase in hotspots, wind direction and dry weather recently. Look like the haze may arrive any time.
Now only Jul, if haze really come then we have to suffer even longer period of haze period liao! Cause usually haze should only come from Aug onwards.
Flight HAZE, arriving soon
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Some 300 fire-linked hot spots detected in Indonesia�A forest fire is seen burning from a helicopter belonging to the Indonesian National Board of Disaster Management in Pelalawan, Riau province, Sumatra island on June 13.PHOTO: REUTERSPUBLISHED1 HOUR AGO�Arlina Arshad�Indonesia�Correspondent In JakartaAlmost 300 hot spots were detected over Sumatra and Kalimantan yesterday that were due to forest and land fires, and the number is expected to increase in the coming dry months.
The figures were disclosed as news emerged of an interview given by the Singapore envoy in Jakarta, who said the Republic would continue to pursue those responsible for haze-belching forest fires in South-east Asia last year.
"We are going after, to put it starkly, the bad guys that are causing this problem," Mr Anil Kumar Nayar told the Agence France-Presse news agency last week. He said Singapore was not crossing any line in pursuing these companies and was within its rights to enforce its law.
"We are not doing something that is extraordinary. It is not targeting any country or anybody's sovereignty," he added.
His comments came amid tensions between Indonesia and Singapore over the latter's decision to take action against a director of an Indonesian firm linked to last year's regional haze, considered to be one of the worst in recent history.
��The crisis affected millions across South-east Asia and caused more than half a million Indonesians to suffer from severe respiratory illnesses. Errant pulp and paper firms have been blamed for the fires.
Satellites yesterday recorded 288 hot spots - 245 hot spots over Sumatra island and 43 over Kalimantan - Indonesia's National Disaster Management Agency spokesman Sutopo Purwo Nugroho said in a statement.
The figure is small compared with about 3,000 at the height of last year's crisis, but he warned that the "potential for fires will increase" in the drier months of July to September. "Dry conditions, scarcity of water and difficulty in accessing the locations will make it hard to douse the fires," he said.
Two helicopters and two air-tractor waterbombers were deployed to spray water from the air in Riau province, which had 26 hot spots. Troops, police and personnel from other agencies are controlling the blazes on the ground, he said. "Most of the hot spots are a result of intentional burning," he said. He did not say who were behind the fires but advised the community not to clear land by setting fires.
Last Friday, major palm oil companies said they have ditched a landmark "zero deforestation" pact, saying the government's recent efforts to strengthen its certification standards were sufficient.
The 2014 Indonesia Palm Oil Pledge, or Ipop, was hailed as one that would boost efforts to fight rampant deforestation, annual forest fires and choking haze.
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I hope our gov stands firm on this. N if need be, go to the international courts n sue. Not just 70% said so. Easily, 95% said so. Gogogo!!!
No use no use de,�no�way�it can change the haze situation. Very sad.
No use no use de, no way it can change the haze situation. Very sad.
Ours is up to 55 low, 56-155 elevated, 156-255 high, above 255 very high. The 'elevated' category looks wierd. It will mean that even w/o burning, we still get elevated levels. Over time, people will get used & numb to the elevated levels.
Elevated could b the most common psi reading...
Maybe thats why they re-word our local ratings. Instead of good, moderate, unhealthy, very unhealthy, hazardous...
Ours is up to 55 low, 56-155 elevated, 156-255 high, above 255 very high. The 'elevated' category looks wierd. It will mean that even w/o burning, we still get elevated levels. Over time, people will get used & numb to the elevated levels.
Elevated could b the most common psi reading...�
I only follow this:
http://aqicn.org/cit...gapore/central/
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0-50: Good
51-100: Moderate
101-150: Unhealthy for sensitive group
151-200: Unhealthy
201-300: Very unhealthy
>301: Hazardous
Just saying...
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Bro I thought it's usually after August? Now seems a bit early?
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Also, the haze usually comes with South-Western wind, I think the wind was still blowing from South-East yesterday. I don't feel any SW wind..
Edited by Weez911, 11 July 2016 - 08:29 AM.
Bro I thought it's usually after August? Now seems a bit early?
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Also, the haze usually comes with South-Western wind, I think the wind was still blowing from South-East yesterday. I don't feel any SW wind..
If haze comes early but also end early then not so bad. If not suffering days would be long!
I look out my office window, sky seems hazy?
I look out my office window, sky seems hazy?
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You mean overcast?
It does look a little hazy from my side. Cant see Batam. But I think is normal for morning. Afternoon might be clearer.
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Maybe you windows not cleaned?
It does look a little hazy from my side. Cant see Batam. But I think is normal for morning. Afternoon might be clearer.
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Maybe you windows not cleaned?
Hopefully it is due to overcast in the morning and not haze.�
lai liao ...
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When the wind change its direction, the haze will come to sg liao?! Hopefully this year haze will not be serious.
Sian....zzzz.....
Very soon no more clear sky, everyday sky will be gloomy and smoky with strong burning smell. Also cannot go outside exercise and jogging liao.�
� At least must endure until Nov then haze should be over.�
wind direction must blow the haze to this si gina office
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Edited by Wt_know, 20 August 2016 - 11:54 PM.
Looks like no matter how serious the haze will be, the wind direction would never affect those hopeless people who cant stop the haze and who dont feel apologetic creating the haze to other countries?!
Today 76
Haze back
Today 76I am so used to seeing yellow warning on the apps, 76 is normal. Will still run.
Edited by Tohto, 24 August 2016 - 08:34 AM.
WussRedXLi says it will not be so bad this year compared to the last. So hopefully this is as bad as it can get.�
Yesterday in Senai the smell also very bad.
Woke up this morning to similar burning smell outside of my window .�
Think Mustank should contribute his share of haze commentary too. He is almost as good as WussRedXLi, or they are same person?�
This morning very strong burning smell.
OMG, haze is back ah?�
Think Mustank should contribute his share of haze commentary too. He is almost as good as WussRedXLi, or they are same person?
Moi is sai :(
CCB Indonesia.
I dont smell anything unusual and I still have a view of Batam from my office window. The view is still somewhat clear.
OMG, haze is back ah?
Rem last year we always come here to get real time updates and rant...looks likr that time has come
This morning very strong burning smell.
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Haze is back ...
closed windows and turned on air purifier ...
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Oh No, its BACK !!!
I dont smell anything unusual and I still have a view of Batam from my office window. The view is still somewhat clear.
Still have clear view from your office window? Then maybe is the 7th month burning? If haze is back now, think a bit early cause have to suffer until Nov!
Wait price increases ah
Those need air purifier one better hurry buy ah
Wait price increases ah
Sunny heng u last year bought liao, can take out and use now
Those need air purifier one better hurry buy ah
Wait price increases ah�
Bought alredi! �
Edited by Windwaver, 24 August 2016 - 09:54 AM.
Bought alredi!
I miss the clean Melbourne air
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I used to stay in the countryside when working overseas, the morning air is literally SWEET!
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Singapore's air just feels heavy even on a normal day.
WussRedXLi says it will not be so bad this year compared to the last. So hopefully this is as bad as it can get.�
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wuss who?
wuss who?
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You can find him in the Haze thread in EDMW. He is a weather and haze guru, machiam like Zhu Geliang that level one. Dont believe u ask Mustank.�
Ya lo need to mask up soon
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Not only mask up, also cannot go for my routine walking or jogging outside liao.
You can find him in the Haze thread in EDMW. He is a weather and haze guru, machiam like Zhu Geliang that level one. Dont believe u ask Mustank.�
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Wussredxli's obsession with air quality and haze/weather is to the level, he should become a meteorologist�
You can find him in the Haze thread in EDMW. He is a weather and haze guru, machiam like Zhu Geliang that level one. Dont believe u ask Mustank.
Wash aircon, vpn, all the tech stuff
http://aqicn.org/cit...gapore/central/
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Below 100.� Ok lah.
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Not only mask up, also cannot go for my routine walking or jogging outside liao.
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Juz wear mask & run if PM 2.5 below 100.
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Those need air purifier one better hurry buy ah
Wait price increases ah�
http://list.qoo10.sg...-3000/436305111
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Qoo10 got time sales.� $229 only.
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Better fast hand fast leg
Edited by Davidtch, 24 August 2016 - 10:39 AM.
http://aqicn.org/cit...gapore/central/
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Below 100.� Ok lah.
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Juz wear mask & run if PM 2.5 below 100.
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http://list.qoo10.sg...-3000/436305111
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Qoo10 got time sales.� $229 only.
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Better fast hand fast leg
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Aiya, new model need add money, delivery add money again. Maybe cheaper buying off the shelve.
You can find him in the Haze thread in EDMW. He is a weather and haze guru, machiam like Zhu Geliang that level one. Dont believe u ask Mustank.�
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oic...towkay also surf edmw?
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that means really got many hidden dragons inside there also
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oic...towkay also surf edmw?
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that means really got many hidden dragons inside there also
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EDMW is a great source for breaking news and saucy pics�
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Aim those KYM (???) threads and you will not look back!�
Aiya, new model need add money, delivery add money again. Maybe cheaper buying off the shelve.
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The cheapest model with Shipping is $258.
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The most expensive model + 1 air filter with Shipping is $384.
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By the way, last time i bought Samsung Air Purifier online with free air filter only about $250.
Though�Air Purifier buy one time can use very long de? Why every year when haze period, people always rush to buy�Air Purifier le?
Not only mask up, also cannot go for my routine walking or jogging outside liao.
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ya lo�
EDMW is a great source for breaking news and saucy pics
Aim those KYM (???) threads and you will not look back!
What is kym thread huh?
What is kym thread huh?
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I would also like to know.
No mask one please quickly go buy
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Air+ is the most comfortable mask to use for long hours.
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The only downside is the fan only last 2 hrs.
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What is kym thread huh?
Kym is the short form for Keyima (????). Usually people post pictures of girls and ask the other forummers if they are chio.
Oi Tankie, don't let me do all the explanations leh. Wait people think I tiko
It is super clear now. No sign of haze at all. F1 grand stands are up already.
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It is super clear now. No sign of haze at all. F1 grand stands are up already.
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Love the view! Jin green, super nice n yay! No haze liao...happie mood
No haze is good. Hope haze dont come at all. Even if come also come oct or nov, definitely not now. I still want my clear sky.
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It is super clear now. No sign of haze at all. F1 grand stands are up already.
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Wow... good view :))
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Yup... no haze liao ... hope the flyer will continue to blow away the haze :))
Does crude oil price affect Palm oil price?
http://www.thecropsi...le-oil-markets/
If there is less burning this year, could it be low crude oil price capping palm oil price?
Wow... good view :))
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Yup... no haze liao ... hope the flyer will continue to blow away the haze :))
Dont think we can escape from the yearly haze, just depends how many months do we need to suffer from the haze only. Looks like this year so far so good, end aug already and yet haze still not here. But seems like F1 season haze confirmed will be here liao?
Kym is the short form for Keyima (�以�?). Usually people post pictures of girls and ask the other forummers if they are chio.
Oi Tankie, don't let me do all the explanations leh. Wait people think I tiko ���
Tankie only visit those sic threads
Though�Air Purifier buy one time can use very long de? Why every year when haze period, people always rush to buy�Air Purifier le?
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People rich ma, I usually replace filter but some people replace the whole purifier, not the filter�
People rich ma, I usually replace filter but some people replace the whole purifier, not the filter�
You mean these rich people only use their purifier only once a year and throw?!�
Really hope clear sky tomorrow ... No haze :)
Really hope clear sky tomorrow ... No haze :)
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Clear skies today. Still can see Batam from my office.
Clear skies today. Still can see Batam from my office.
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Wow :)
Yeah, no haze :))
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I finally can see the trees opp and hear the beautiful melody from the birds :))
yesterday and today morning when i reach office, i smell cha-ta smell leh......but later during the rest of the day no more.......
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so it is coming our way ?
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Wow :)
Yeah, no haze :))
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I finally can see the trees opp and hear the beautiful melody from the birds :))
Such beautiful sight won't be long liao. Haze should appear anytime. Lol.
Such beautiful sight won't be long liao. Haze should appear anytime. Lol.
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El Nino weather cycle has ended.� It will not be as bad as previous years lah.
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El Nino weather cycle has ended.� It will not be as bad as previous years lah.
Not as bad as previous years? It would be good news liao. At least no need to suffer so much, and yet maybe still can continue my outdoor activities. Lol.
Not as bad as previous years? It would be good news liao. At least no need to suffer so much, and yet maybe still can continue my outdoor activities. Lol.
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I haven't tell you the bad news yet.
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Nowadays, the gap btw El Nino & La Nina might be shorten.� If La Nina gonna starts in Oct this year, prepare for more rain & ponding.
I haven't tell you the bad news yet.
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Nowadays, the gap btw El Nino & La Nina might be shorten.� If La Nina gonna starts in Oct this year, prepare for more rain & ponding.
I rather have more rain & ponding than hazy sky. Lol.
I can confirm, its back!!! I aint see Batam from my office liao.
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sibei hazy this morning ... burning smell all over the atmosphere
Such a nice unobstructed view when there is no haze.I can confirm, its back!!! I aint see Batam from my office liao.
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Almost total white out now. Very bad now. Flyer is barely visible.
174 at North now.
My wife and son at home already close window with AP on liao.
PSI already exceeded 100!�
Check out the view now from my office!!!
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Feeling very choked in the West.. I think i gonna take leave n escape
CCB indonesia
Feeling very choked in the West.. I think i gonna take leave n escape
This is only the first day of the haze le, how many days of leave that you can take to escape lo?! Lol.
west AQI 200
Like the stupid retired general, all Indon govt officials who transit Singapore should be detained - and made to sit on the airport tarmac for 3 hours in the open with no mask.� See how they like it.
west AQI 200
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Don't confuse ppl lah.
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That's only on PM2.5 which is hazardous to our lung.
Don't confuse ppl lah.
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That's only on PM2.5 which is hazardous to our lung.
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i don't get what you mean.
PM 2.5 is the most important factor.
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Edited by Lala81, 26 August 2016 - 10:59 AM.
Hopefully it would not be hazy everyday!�
i don't get what you mean.
PM 2.5 is the most important factor.
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In Sg, we are not familiar with AQI.� In fact, AQI has not fixed definition.
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If you are reading the number from AQICN, PM10 also has AQI of 29.
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Rather than saying AQI, the correct message is AQI of PM2.5 = 200.
CCB.............KNN............KNNBCCB.................
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OK.............thats about all I can do..............
In Sg, we are not familiar with AQI.� In fact, AQI has not fixed definition.
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If you are reading the number from AQICN, PM10 also has AQI of 29.
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Rather than saying AQI, the correct message is AQI of PM2.5 = 200.
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... ... Whatever lah. Can't be bothered.
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Why do i give a crap about AQI of PM10? Your lungs can do the filtering of PM10.
... ... Whatever lah. Can't be bothered.
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Why do i give a crap about AQI of PM10? Your lungs can do the filtering of PM10.
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Want to give numbers.� Give accurate information.
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I know PM2.5 is important.
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Every year, they create such haze that affect millions of ppl, can they protest their own ppl?!
KNS!!
Our lives are affected !!!
Don't come and say we enjoy 9months of clean air and must thank them ... Made me even pissed off !!
We just want clean air !
Want to give numbers.� Give accurate information.
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I know PM2.5 is important.
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whatever lah.
3hr PSI (which btw includes PM2.5, PM10, NO2, SO2 and O3 and CO) is 128 now.
For small little thing like asking their ex general to stay back for some routine security checkup, they protested in front of our embassy...
Every year, they create such haze that affect millions of ppl, can they protest their own ppl?!
KNS!!
Our lives are affected !!!
Don't come and say we enjoy 9months of clean air and must thank them ... Made me even pissed off !!
We just want clean air !�
nothing to kaopeh about lah. Will never end one. Not in our lifetime, and never will.
Just switch on your AP and wear your masks.
As long as the wind from sumatra and borneo doesn't blow towards JKT, nothing will change in our lifetime.
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Edited by Lala81, 26 August 2016 - 11:24 AM.
For small little thing like asking their ex general to stay back for some routine security checkup, they protested in front of our embassy...
Every year, they create such haze that affect millions of ppl, can they protest their own ppl?!
KNS!!
Our lives are affected !!!
Don't come and say we enjoy 9months of clean air and must thank them ... Made me even pissed off !!
We just want clean air !�
Sadly, we can't retaliate by protesting in front of their embassy.
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Pray for more rain.
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By the way, that ex-general carries a lot of political clout hor.
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Sengkang area now at 128 ...........
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Like the stupid retired general, all Indon govt officials who transit Singapore should be detained - and made to sit on the airport tarmac for 3 hours in the open with no mask.� See how they like it.
They all sit in VIP lounges�
You and me sit in "Al Fresco" ones aka Kopitiam
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CCB.............KNN............KNNBCCB.................
OK.............thats about all I can do..............
Now suck the ccb haze more hahaha
CCB.............KNN............KNNBCCB.................
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OK.............thats about all I can do..............
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There are more....
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TLMKFH ..... (throw your mother flower shoe - in Cantonese)
SNM ... (in hokkien)
KNBKK ... (in teochew)
KB, PKM�.... (in malay)
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Now play pokemon is like playing resident evil haha
There are more....
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TLMKFH ..... (throw your mother flower shoe - in Cantonese)
SNM ... (in hokkien)
KNBKK ... (in teochew)
KB, PKM�.... (in malay)
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NBCCB..............this one really must praise..............but KNN I run out liao.............otang until tomorrow............but wait where the indian and ang moh ones..........
NBCCB..............this one really must praise..............but KNN I run out liao.............otang until tomorrow............but wait where the indian and ang moh ones..........
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FUDD ... in English
WW ... in tamil
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FUDD ... in English
WW ... in tamil
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The haze is very poisonous, just went out for lunch a while, could feel my throat is itchy and dry.!�
Edited by 13177, 26 August 2016 - 12:17 PM.
Would be nice to escape to Taiwan for the weekend�
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Got fresh air, great food and xmm�
Would be nice to escape to Taiwan for the weekend
Got fresh air, great food and xmm
Would be nice to escape to Taiwan for the weekend�
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Got fresh air, great food and xmm�
Haze will last for about 3 months le, you only escape for one weekend not much difference also. Lol.
What lao eh ... I ran out of N95 masks ....
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Better to buy asap !
Go aussie better, its winter now there
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Yep, going Sydney on the 4th Sep week�
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Seafood here i cum!
hm...can safely "ON" my front fog lights (pure rally yellow), and occasionally rear fog lights too !�
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Yep, going Sydney on the 4th Sep week
Seafood here i cum!
I planning to go to, sian so many haze, asap haha
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I don't care how everyone looks�or interpret�it. Those figures are pretty F-ing high! And they show no sign of abating.
Thought of planning a short holiday to Indonesia. Now decided against it. Will not give them my money when they keep trying to kill me.
This haze is like a yearly affair Liao.really like a ??????!
Roach shall prevail!
What lao eh ... I ran out of N95 masks ....
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Better to buy asap !
Might be a little too late to buy your masks liao. Should be out of stock the moment the haze strike us this morning!
Might be a little too late to buy your masks liao. Should be out of stock the moment the haze strike us this morning!
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I think this time most people more prepared. I was at Bishan CC and they were giving out free masks. My son's school also gave each of them 3 N95 masks.
We get this super welcome every 3-5 months , kinda wondering what our Gahmen can do about it, I jolly well thy have done many due diligence stuff n stamping out fire-starter and getting our neighbours on hot spot area to crack down those idiots
� seriously, enough s enough.
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Luckily I had a good trek yesterday noon at SICC and back safely afternoon are 5pm, feeling great body, n ache and shoulder pain all gone, now this damn Haze...makes breathing and driving bad.
I think this time most people more prepared. I was at Bishan CC and they were giving out free masks. My son's school also gave each of them 3 N95 masks.
More or less should be more prepare for the haze, since past years the haze was very bad here. Actually i also already bought masks and stock at home liao, but didnt bring the mask out with me this morning!�
Really sld build many many giant fans along the coast facing them.................and blow the CB haze back at them...........
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Can SG sue them in international court???.............or something???..............
Really sld build many many giant fans along the coast facing them.................and blow the CB haze back at them...........
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Can SG sue them in international court???.............or something???..............
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If Singapore takes them to international court, we will be accused of not being "neighbourly" and not understanding that they are doing all they can to stop the fires.� And they got picture some more - see? their personnel died fighting the fires and Singapore still so unappreciative, blah, blah blah ....
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F*** Indonesia
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Might be a little too late to buy your masks liao. Should be out of stock the moment the haze strike us this morning!
maybe bro Mustank got stock?
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this haze is real bad, it happened all of a sudden
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The braised duck I had for lunch seems more like smoked duck
Really sld build many many giant fans along the coast facing them.................and blow the CB haze back at them...........
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Can SG sue them in international court???.............or something???..............
Just change the speed of the Singapore Flyer maybe can solve the haze issue�
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Sunday got 1/2 marathon army run ; Will kenna cancel or not???
Got Any bros or sisters taking part ??�
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If Singapore takes them to international court, we will be accused of not being "neighbourly" and not understanding that they are doing all they can to stop the fires.� And they got picture some more - see? their personnel died fighting the fires and Singapore still so unappreciative, blah, blah blah ....
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F*** Indonesia
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CCB................if they knn dont start the fire.............nobody need to die ................this one really like what Picnic06-Biante15 said.............."f**k U deep deep Indonesia !!!".............
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wanted to go Bali for a short trip in Dec..................Knn change my mind now..............go spend in thailand better ..............
Just change the speed of the Singapore Flyer maybe can solve the haze issue�
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Sunday got 1/2 marathon army run ; Will kenna cancel or not???
Got Any bros or sisters taking part ??�
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I think use my wings better..............last year I did the same thing................almost killed me...........
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the haze is siao siao one.................if later wind direction change.............then carry on running lor............
maybe bro Mustank got stock?
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this haze is real bad, it happened all of a sudden
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The braised duck I had for lunch seems more like smoked duck
Every year the haze also so called happened all of a sudden de. Like yesterday the weather still clear and bright, then next day could suddenly become gloomy and hazy! Think we should get used to such sudden change of weather around this time. Lol.
Really sld build many many giant fans along the coast facing them.................and blow the CB haze back at them........... � �
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Can SG sue them in international court???.............or something???..............
If so easily sue them, this haze issue could have settled long long time ago liao. And we would not experience haze season every year. Lol.
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If so easily sue them, this haze issue could have settled long long time ago liao. And we would not experience haze season every year. Lol.
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Yah lor..................I also know.............thats why I said .............. KPKB is about all I can do liao..............but still knn sibei tulan.............its like knn know the axe is falling but cannot draw the head back.............
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Air purifiers are flying off the shelves.. those who haven't buy yet better go buy chop chop..
Air purifiers are flying off the shelves.. those who haven't buy yet better go buy chop chop..
Maybe go buy today still have chance. After which all out of stock liao. You know how fast hand fast leg people here lo.
Maybe go buy today still have chance. After which all out of stock liao. You know how fast hand fast leg people here lo.
People always have this mentality of "what if tomorrow the haze is gone?".
No la, people will only go buy air purifier and masks when the PSI reading is high, and when the sky is covered with thick smoke. Like today lo, you go pharmacy and you will see tons of people rushing to buy masks. But when the sky is clear again, no one will be buying masks. Lol. �
Maybe go buy today still have chance. After which all out of stock liao. You know how fast hand fast leg people here lo.
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no one else have stock pile?? this is turning out to be a yearly affair. ... already bot during safe time�
no one else have stock pile?? this is turning out to be a yearly affair. ... already bot during safe time�
Like one bro here mentioned, people throw every year and buy new air purifier when the haze strike again. Lol. Thats why every year during the haze period, air purifier would be default out of stock.
Like one bro here mentioned, people throw every year and buy new air purifier when the haze strike again. Lol. Thats why every year during the haze period, air purifier would be default out of stock.
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mayb.. its demand vs supply... sellers creating market...�
Whole island PM 2.5 is above 200 liao.
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Better sleep in office if you have no mask
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Whole island PM 2.5 is above 200 liao.
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Better sleep in office if you have no mask
Sound serious yet again! Seems like every year when haze strike here, the reading always very high de?!
Whole island PM 2.5 is above 200 liao.
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Better sleep in office if you have no mask
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Another outdoor activities sure backfire....
boycott Sinar Mas / APP products�
Afternoon theres strong wind, haze seemed better liao
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Yup, marginally better. But still cant see the ships from my office.
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generally I think they are not Singapore companies. they are indo companies that have offices in Singapore to make use of our financial, logistics, and other services.
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and if there are any chaos, like in '98, the first place they would�hide is in Singapore.
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oh and remember to go thank them for the haze: http://thankyouindoforthecleanair.com/
rem thank them many fxxxing times....
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Wah! Choking...
Wah! Choking...
i think the reading is not very acurate.
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see your own area yourself and judge
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, if need maybe oxygen mask also must wear
i think the reading is not very acurate.
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see your own area yourself and judge
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, if need maybe oxygen mask also must wear
Maybe we need to carry an oxygen tank during the haze period?!�
Wah! Choking...
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eh, what happened ? you accidentally swallowed something ?�
Want to give numbers.� Give accurate information.
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I know PM2.5 is important.
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Don't so fussy lah...
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Ahem.
http://www.mycarforu...ines/?p=4899362
eh, what happened ? you accidentally swallowed something ?
we need this...............
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eh, what happened ? you accidentally swallowed something ?
My view goot or not
My view goot or not
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yishun ?�
My view goot or not
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New Pokemons.. tonite go catch..
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yishun ?
http://m.imgur.com/GUvlLLG?r
http://m.imgur.com/GUvlLLG?r
Hahahahaha!!!!!
Catching monkeymon tonite!!!!!New Pokemons.. tonite go catch..
Still thinking should i go home straight after work or go out walk walk? Will the haze still as bad outside?!�
Still thinking should i go home straight after work or go out walk walk? Will the haze still as bad outside?!�
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Don't go home.
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PM 2.5 is more than 150 now.
Don't go home.
PM 2.5 is more than 150 now.
Time to stay indoors ....
Looks like tomorrow will be indoor day ...
Really hope the wind direction will change soon to blow away the haze ....
Seems like the haze temporary gets better since 7pm plus till now. No more hazy sky. Hopefully it will stay this way over the weekends.
No much haze and smell now as of 7.30am ... though didn't see any index yet ...
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Hopefully the early morning rain have dampen the haze... and pls change the direction to blow back to the original source ...
haze building up now
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looks like another hazy day
Can feel the discomfort in my throat.
Better stay indoor
Take care Bro ... Drink more water or herbal tea ...
Don't go home.
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PM 2.5 is more than 150 now.
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yes ... tiagong inside KTV PSI is healthy range ...�
so far today looks good................fingers cross.............
yes ... tiagong inside KTV PSI is healthy range ...
That's always healthy one lah ...
Happenings lah
bought mine from NTUC. will look around Cold Storage, Giant etc as well.
for hazy weather, would up my green bean soup intake.
just got back from outside, eyes smarting a bit.
Green bean can add sweet potato n sago
Green bean can add sweet potato n sago
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haha ... I usually go to this aunty's dessert stall at Mei Ling Market.
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have a choice of sweet potato or tapioca,�
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Today Beijing
Clear blue sky..
how much more we need to "sugar coat" the bad, worse and harmful of haze?
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Edited by Wt_know, 27 August 2016 - 09:09 PM.
"moderate unhealthy"
how much more we need to "sugar coat" the bad, worse and harmful of haze?
whole day breathing in burning smell and choking ...�
PM2.5 is below 100 now.� According to AQICN, it will stays at that level until tomorrow night.� Tomorrow night will be below 50
We can keep complaining the haze, but this is the kind of response we get from the Vice President of Indonesia.�
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Speaking in the VP's office on 26 August morning, Vice President of Indonesia, Jusuf said that the smoke caused by the forest fire which was blown to Singapore is something common due to the wind.
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He said that it is up to Singapore's Government to complain about the haze. "As long as there are lots of fire here and the wind blow to the north, the smoke must have reached Singapore. Nobody wants the smoke to reach Singapore. It is just that we can not control the wind. How do you control the wind?"
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Jusuf stated that the Indonesia Government has put in its maximum effort to put off the fire. He added that the Government has also conducted Emergency Operations which involved armies and armadas to detect and battle the fire. "We have deployed helicopters, aeroplanes, and people to put off the fire. The Government has done the best," he said.
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Asked about the complaints from Singapore, Jusuf only said, "It is up to them to complain. Whom are they going to complain to? Are they going to complain to the wind?"
Indo really cannot make it, created the haze and yet say cannot control the wind and bring the haze to sg!
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But today haze seems quite ok in tiong baru and town area le.
KNN ... what kind of lowly VP talk about controlling wind ....
if want to blame ... blame the wind ... pui !
say until like that ... indon need more wind master instead of fire fighter
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Army 1/2 marathon proceeding as of now ...
KNN ... what kind of lowly VP talk about controlling wind ....
if want to blame ... blame the wind ... pui !
say until like that ... indon need more wind master instead of fire fighter
Inside KTV room worse, with all the smoking.
SPA room would be better air LOL.
Looks like haze did not get worst over the weekend.
This is only the first day of the haze le, how many days of leave that you can take to escape lo?! Lol.
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not alot of leave, lol.. still got mc ma
Eh, today like no haze leh
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Still have but not so intense. I can faintly view Batam from my office still not fully clear.
Hopefully haze can go away soon.. cos I am getting nose irritation ...
ah choo .....
Still have but not so intense. I can faintly view Batam from my office still not fully clear.
hahaha.......I am afraid those gila mosquitoes will just be driven into our homes by the haze instead!
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Damn.......just when you need the haze to kill those gila mosquitoes
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hahaha.......I am afraid those gila mosquitoes will just be driven into our homes by the haze instead!
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eh you dun call Mustank gila leh...altho his house is below
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Seems like haze a bit only?!�
Dun like that leh...... dun Haze have we should just diam diam and enjoy the clean air while we can, reserve our energy to kpkb when the main force hits. The one last friday is just a warning shot...calm before the storm
Seems like haze a bit only?!�
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hahaha.......I am afraid those gila mosquitoes will just be driven into our homes by the haze instead!
This one too high class Liaoeh you dun call Mustank gila leh...altho his house is below
My one is the old Woodbridge
Haven't enbloc yet
Dun like that leh...... dun Haze have we should just diam diam and enjoy the clean air while we can, reserve our energy to kpkb when the main force hits. The one last friday is just a warning shot...calm before the storm
True, true, we just enjoy the clean air while we can while the storm should come anytime again.
Dun like that leh...... dun Haze have we should just diam diam and enjoy the clean air while we can, reserve our energy to kpkb when the main force hits. The one last friday is just a warning shot...calm before the storm
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i also say...it's like pre-ejac
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he full bloom will cum later
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Porker say one...Weez911 confirm
Rem to drink lots of water.
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Have N95 with you all the time.
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Lastly, have AQICN Singapore all the time on your phone browser.� Check it before you go out.
Rem to drink lots of water.
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Have N95 with you all the time.
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Lastly, have AQICN Singapore all the time on your phone browser.� Check it before you go out.
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One more advice on top of yours ... if can stay indoor, just stay indoors like office or shopping malls, or even home :)
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Some years, the haze wasn't that bad. Hope we will be lucky again. Can only hope .... can't do much.
As far as i remember, haze seems to be getting worse over the years. Cant really remember which years haze wasnt bad? Lol.
The smell of burnt ash is pretty strong. Think I will wake up to an index above 100..... C
nb US seems not interested in this region's this particular issue.
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while really dip in in the middle east.
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hmmmm......
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hope the cumming up Hillary Clinton will care for this.
nb US seems not interested in this region's this particular issue.
while really dip in in the middle east.
hmmmm......
hope the cumming up Hillary Clinton will care for this.
Are you sure you want them to do a middle east in SEA? I prefer they stay away and not mess things up.
Are you sure you want them to do a middle east in SEA? I prefer they stay away and not mess things up.
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eh.. i have the impression you quite intellect but in bad mood.
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of course i expect their approach to be different as different issue.
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considering or what appears to be their belief on human rights they should do something right
A bit hazy this morning ....
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Hope haze can go away soon ... else double whammy of haze and zika ...
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Poor children, school holidays will have to be clamped in homes ...
I cant see Batam from my office today. Looks like haze is back.
I cant see Batam from my office today. Looks like haze is back.
Haze is back again!�
According to radio this morning, NEA has switched to 1hr PM2.5 reading + 24h PSI.
No more 3 hr PSI liao.
According to radio this morning, NEA has switched to 1hr PM2.5 reading + 24h PSI.
No more 3 hr PSI liao.
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The hourly 2.5 should be good enough indicator ... its always the fine particles that could be health hazards to us ...
A bit hazy this morning ....
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Hope haze can go away soon ... else double whammy of haze and zika ...
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Poor children, school holidays will have to be clamped in homes ...
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With haze the mozzies still fly around? What mask are they wearing? N100?
With haze the mozzies still fly around? What mask are they wearing? N100?
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their philosophy. YOLO!�
Indonesia should either ask the Philippines president to attach to the Indon environ team for 2 mth, or send in what is left of the army who is not corrupt (if any) and take down the mobs one by one, then torture and interrogate them to review who is behind all these, then go bring those people responsible in and do the same to them...
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Cannot believe a sovereign country allow this to happen.
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Indonesia environment team threatened with death investigating haze
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- Updated�05 Sep 2016 15:10
: Dozens of Indonesian men, suspected of being hired by an oil palm plantation company, threatened to kill environmental investigators checking on fires on Sumatra island, the environment ministry said.
The incident illustrates the difficulties Indonesia faces tackling the illegal burning of vegetation to clear land for palm oil and pulp and paper plantations that causes clouds of smoke every dry season, which at times blanket the region, raising fears for public health and air travel.
The ministry said a group of up to 100 men detained seven investigators for about 12 hours on the weekend and threatened to burn them alive and dump their bodies in a river at an oil palm plantation in Rokan Hulu, Riau province.
The team was following up on satellite images showing "hot spots", or suspected fires, in a concession of PT Andika Permata Sawit Lestari (APSL) oil palm plantation company.
There were "strong indications" the mob was deployed by the company, the ministry said in a statement.
"With this incident, the investigation of PT APSL will become our top priority," Environment Minister Siti Nurbaya said in the statement, referring to both suspected forest encroachment by the company and the detention of the team.
"The environment ministry will investigate this and take strict action in accordance with the law," she said.
A company official, contacted by Reuters on Monday, declined to comment.
The team was released only after lengthy negotiations involving police and after they agreed to delete photographic evidence and to leave behind two vehicles and equipment. The equipment and vehicles were recovered the next day.
The investigators, however, managed to retrieve video footage shot by a drone showing thousands of hectares of forest had been burned illegally in and around the APSL concession.
"As far as the eye can see, an area that was once peatland has been converted into oil palm plantation," Nurbaya said.
Plantation companies drain swampy peatland before planting their crops and the dried-out peat is particularly flammable and often catches fire when companies set fires to clear vegetation.
More than 450 individuals have been arrested in connection with land and forest fires this year.
Under Indonesian law, companies found guilty of clearing land by burning can be fined up to 10 billion rupiah (US$735,000), and the management faces up to 10 years in jail. Companies that fail to control fires started elsewhere but which spread into their concession land also face punishment.
Smoke from fires in Riau often drifts over nearby Singapore and Malaysia. Air pollution in Singapore rose to "unhealthy" levels late last month after a spike in fires in the area.
- Reuters
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Now I know why Indonesia will never able to put off the forest fire. Just look at this photo from today ST. 14 person holding the water hose, all those standing behind basically wayang like doing SAF log PT.
Will cause all the tiny holes in the fire hoses.
Frankly, looks normal to me. Whoever drag my fire hose on the floor sure kena scolded by me. The rough terrain or the normal road will tear these rubber hoses.
Will cause all the tiny holes in the fire hoses.
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