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EPL 2016-17 fixtures released today!
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You could be right cos I don't understand the logic of BM so keen on getting rid of Goetze. First choice for his country and cant even get into the BM squad is illogical to me.
Different manager sees players differently I guess. Low might find him fitting his German team but Pep and Ancelotti might not see him as good a fit to their teams at Bayern.
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hmmm, something wrong with his attitude?
Different manager sees players differently I guess. Low might find him fitting his German team but Pep and Ancelotti might not see him as good a fit to their teams at Bayern.
I can accept different Mgrs disagreeing on which players fit their plans but to discard him totally I find it strange and makes me believe it could be more than meets the eye. Personally I think�it's a club decision rather than the individual Mgr's.
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Bro Othello feels maybe it's�his attitude which we won't know but so far reports and publicly he doesn't seem to have an attitude issue but guess we will nvr know!�
hmmm, something wrong with his attitude?
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EPL 2016-17 fixtures released today!
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You could be right cos I don't understand the logic of BM so keen on getting rid of Goetze. First choice for his country and cant even get into the BM squad is illogical to me.
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maybe he really is gay�
maybe he really is gay
Cannot be lah. At most is bi
Wah lan... haha. They england rejects in the endGot la..
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Hmm... better not.. come spurs better....Henrikh Mkhitaryan�s agent Mino Raiola has revealed the Borussia Dortmund man is keen on a move to Manchester United.
What. A. Clown.
Can't help it
Henrikh Mkhitaryan�s agent Mino Raiola has revealed the Borussia Dortmund man is keen on a move to Manchester United.
Borussia Dortmund reject Man United's �19m bid for Henrikh Mkhitaryan as per Mirror.
Henrikh Mkhitaryan�s agent Mino Raiola has revealed the Borussia Dortmund man is keen on a move to Manchester United.
Borussia Dortmund reject Man United's �19m bid for Henrikh Mkhitaryan as per Mirror.
http://www.independe...m-a7083836.html
Offer apparently is real but FSG reluctant to sell.
�19m is too low. They want �30m if I am not wrongBorussia Dortmund reject Man United's £19m bid for Henrikh Mkhitaryan as per Mirror.
Borussia Dortmund reject Man United's £19m bid for Henrikh Mkhitaryan as per Mirror.
Borussia Dortmund reject Man United's �19m bid for Henrikh Mkhitaryan as per Mirror.
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This time round they can hold a bit. Still early and Man Utd not the only team interested.they going to force him run down on his contract and let him leave on a free transfer?
tot Dortmund has learnt their lesson from the Lewandoski saga
Edited by Osprey23, 16 June 2016 - 08:48 AM.
Beskitas Sporting director Erdal Torunogullari says Besiktas would rather keep Mario Gomez than sign Mario Balotelli.Mino Raiola is confident Balotelli will sign for Besiktas, after offering the striker to the Turkish club. [Calciomercato]
Erdal �We know Raiola well. He�s even said Balotelli will go to Besiktas, but it�s not like that. We�re not interested, our priority is to hold on to Mario Gomez. This month will be decisive, everything depends on him (Gomez). Only then will we decide what to do."
Edited by Osprey23, 17 June 2016 - 10:56 AM.
SportBild reported that both Chelsea and Liverpool are interested in Jonathan Tah.
Is he another Emre Can type?
Is he another Emre Can type?
No bro. Tah is a CB. Only 20.
I like him a lot. Similar to Can, I think he is one huge prospect.
No bro. Tah is a CB. Only 20.
I like him a lot. Similar to Can, I think he is one huge prospect.
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No bro. Tah is a CB. Only 20.
I like him a lot. Similar to Can, I think he is one huge prospect.
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So the midfield comprised of "Can Tah Han" , sure solid ...
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Pool need to sign someone called Han ...
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So the midfield comprised of "Can Tah Han" , sure solid ...
tats a damn gd one bro!
Pool need to sign someone called Han ...
So the midfield comprised of "Can Tah Han" , sure solid ...
Let's not jump the gun. Let's look for Han after we sign Tah.
Only plus point we have is Klopp. He apparently has a release clause, so at least won't be out bid by Chelsea.
Milner not even a striker leh. The snake also not coming back.
Hearing City considering lodging a report for robbery against Pool over that snake.
Milner not even a striker leh. The snake also not coming back.
Hearing City considering lodging a report for robbery against Pool over that snake.
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That pic was from last year before that snake swim over to the blue river...
Edited by L23, 17 June 2016 - 02:16 PM.
No bro. Tah is a CB. Only 20.
I like him a lot. Similar to Can, I think he is one huge prospect.
Seem bro you don't like tah calling him a ....hahahhah
Seem bro you don't like tah calling him a ....hahahhah
LOL, in footballing term.
If I mean that, I will use c**t. :P
if i'm not wrong, he is worth 50m now..
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Real Madrid midfielder�Mateo Kovacic, linked with Liverpool, could be on his way to Roma instead
Real Madrid midfielder Mateo Kovacic, linked with Liverpool, could be on his way to Roma instead
We linked with him before he went Real Madrid. No longer interested liao.
I think Spurs in the mix too. This guy much more worth it than Mane imo
Lille forward Sofiane Boufal is set to make a decision on his future in coming days. Liverpool and Barcelona among those interested for �15m
I think Spurs in the mix too. This guy much more worth it than Mane imo
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We linked with him before he went Real Madrid. No longer interested liao.
Looks like reports in Italy are suggesting otherwise. We shall see then.
http://www.thesportr...id-star-report/
Edited by Osprey23, 17 June 2016 - 11:14 PM.
If barcelona comes in, no offense but i doubt other club stand a chance
Barcelona can't offer him first team chance. Who between MSN is he going to dislodge?
So is really up to him
Looks like reports in Italy are suggesting otherwise. We shall see then.
http://www.thesportr...id-star-report/
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Barcelona can't offer him first team chance. Who between MSN is he going to dislodge?
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Looks like reports in Italy are suggesting otherwise. We shall see then.
http://www.thesportr...id-star-report/
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last season, he was supposed to be "confirmed chopped and stamped"� Now he cost twice the price !!�
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Really all these young players should have their brains checked when RM come calling ....... so many have caused their own career to stutter
Article reported that only an offer of �1.5b would tempt FSG to listen.
http://www.forbes.co...ted-in-selling/
last season, he was supposed to be "confirmed chopped and stamped"
Now he cost twice the price !!
Really all these young players should have their brains checked when RM come calling ....... so many have caused their own career to stutter
I remember clearly that time also Italian papers saying done deal to Pool but local journos reported nothing. Ended up, he went RM.
Let's see whether the Italian press get it right this time
Why Spurs can get good deals from Sotons but we can't huh?
http://www.express.c...outhampton-deal
That's really cheap! I had lobbied for Arsenal to get him but instead Spurs got him n surprisingly Arsenal went for a 3 times more expensive player in Xhaka!!
to be fair, Xhaka is a better player, and better suited for Arsenal's possession based play as well.That's really cheap! I had lobbied for Arsenal to get him but instead Spurs got him n surprisingly Arsenal went for a 3 times more expensive player in Xhaka!!
Why Spurs can get good deals from Sotons but we can't huh?
http://www.express.c...outhampton-deal
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Very strange move. Vardy leaving?
Best thing is, Watford rejected it.25m?!?! Thats quite a lot!
Liverpool not after Kovacic
Here we go again. Italian and English press reporting different thing
Looks like it is happening. The biggest deal for this summer is happening
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See girl still got Mari Kita.
Don't think he's gay.
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Pay lah.25m?!?! Thats quite a lot!
become another arse ah?
Keep so much cash for fark
Edited by Little_prince, 20 June 2016 - 10:15 AM.
Pay lah.
become another arse ah?
Keep so much cash for fark
Leicester want to pay. Watford do not want to accept.
Leicester want to pay. Watford do not want to accept.
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Troy Deeney has agreed personal terms with Leicester. Fee still being discussed. Would be around �25M. (Sky Sports)
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This article explains why Xhaka is a good buy at 32mil:
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But Neil Lennon, ex Celtic boss has a vastly different opinion on Xhaka n compares him with Charlie Adam!! Goes to show, we all have our opinions and it can differ by quite abit!!
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My favorite song perhaps, "You'll never walk alone"
http://www.schweizer...alt-auto-euro16
Dunno what kind of interview is this. Who on earth would ask a 18 year old such question? But his answer is class. Good choice
Breel Embolo asked what song he'd like played at his funeral:
My favorite song perhaps, "You'll never walk alone"
http://www.schweizer...alt-auto-euro16
Dunno what kind of interview is this. Who on earth would ask a 18 year old such question? But his answer is class. Good choice
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In the possession, there a groups of relatives, friends and working colleagues walking together to the burial....
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Breel Embolo asked what song he'd like played at his funeral:
My favorite song perhaps, "You'll never walk alone"
http://www.schweizer...alt-auto-euro16
Dunno what kind of interview is this. Who on earth would ask a 18 year old such question? But his answer is class. Good choice
"You'll never walk alone" is definitely an iconic song which makes goose pimples and your hairs stand on ends especially when sung in an enclosed stadium. A quick check tells you an amazing story.
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The Gerry and the Pacemakers song version was first adopted by Liverpool FC fans as their theme football song.
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The song was later adopted by Scottish team�Celtic�and is now sung by their fans prior to every home�European tie.
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The song has also been adopted by Dutch teams�Feyenoord,�FC Twente�and�SC Cambuur,�Germany's�Borussia Dortmund,�FSV Mainz 05,�1. FC Kaiserslautern,�SV Darmstadt 98,�Eintracht Braunschweig,�Borussia M�nchengladbach,�VfL Osnabr�ck,�Alemannia Aachen,�FC St Pauli,�TSV 1860 Munich,�Belgium's�Club Brugge, Japan's�F.C. Tokyo,�Spain'sCD Lugo.�and the Marist St. Pats MSP 80/80 Blues. In�Ice Hockey, the song has been adopted by German�Deutsche Eishockey Liga�side�Krefeld Pinguine�and Croatian Medve�?ak Zagreb.
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[Source:�https://en.wikipedia...ever_Walk_Alone]
"You'll never walk alone" is definitely an iconic song which makes goose pimples and your hairs stand on ends especially when sung in an enclosed stadium. A quick check tells you an amazing story.
The Gerry and the Pacemakers song version was first adopted by Liverpool FC fans as their theme football song.
The song was later adopted by Scottish team Celtic and is now sung by their fans prior to every home European tie.
The song has also been adopted by Dutch teams Feyenoord, FC Twente and SC Cambuur, Germany's Borussia Dortmund, FSV Mainz 05, 1. FC Kaiserslautern, SV Darmstadt 98, Eintracht Braunschweig, Borussia M�nchengladbach, VfL Osnabr�ck, Alemannia Aachen, FC St Pauli, TSV 1860 Munich, Belgium's Club Brugge, Japan's F.C. Tokyo, Spain'sCD Lugo.and the Marist St. Pats MSP 80/80 Blues. In Ice Hockey, the song has been adopted by German Deutsche Eishockey Liga side Krefeld Pinguine and Croatian Medve�?ak Zagreb.
[Source: https://en.wikipedia...ever_Walk_Alone]
What you are trying to say is Liverpool football club is the greatest club in the world
What you are trying to say is Liverpool football club is the greatest club in the world
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What you are trying to say is Liverpool football club is the greatest club in the world
Aso desu neh !!!
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Whenever YNWA is played on Youtube, fans all over the world will post statements like "I am a Liverpool fan. I am from Kenya, S. Africa, Vietnam, Papua New Guinea, Canada or even Timbaktu."
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Double confirm. We are the greatest club in the world, nothing less.
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We are first to adopt and others are quick to copy. We are FIRST, remember.
Whenever YNWA is played on Youtube, fans all over the world will post statements like "I am a Liverpool fan. I am from Kenya, S. Africa, Vietnam, Papua New Guinea, Canada or even Timbaktu."
Double confirm. We are the greatest club in the world, nothing less.
Always the saying goes, "Form is temporary but class is permanent."
Chelsea n man city will never be in that level yet.... it takes years and years to to that
Tats why solid foundations and rich history is made and earned not bought...
Chelsea n man city will never be in that level yet.... it takes years and years to to that
well u always need to start some where.
Spurs confirming first signing of the season. That wayawama. From saints. Good signing. Add depth the compete dier. Dembele
Very good deal. Considering Pool always get chop carrot head by them
Hendo likely sold if true.
U guys know rite... that "YNWA" song was first sung by Manchester United Fans before pools even started singing it....
Spurs confirming first signing of the season. That wayawama. From saints. Good signing. Add depth the compete dier. Dembele
Good signing for Spurs. If he didn't play well you can nickname him wayang
U guys know rite... that "YNWA" song was first sung by Manchester United Fans before pools even started singing it....
Yeah, many Man U fans like to sing YNWA because in their hearts, they know what it means. Remember Liverpool is first to do so. It's a fact, no dispute.
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Hendo likely sold if true.
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Definately not spurs..... hehe.Which club wants to buy him, bro?
No idea bro. Just heard rumour that there will be a change of captain. Hence I guess he would have to be sold for that to happen.Which club wants to buy him, bro?
Any precedence whereby a club captain stayed on after being stripped off captaincy?
No idea bro. Just heard rumour that there will be a change of captain. Hence I guess he would have to be sold for that to happen.
Any precedence whereby a club captain stayed on after being stripped off captaincy?
Sami hyypia
Ya hor.Sami hyypia
though not exactly being striped of captaincy.
That time CB passed to midfielder. Now is midfielder passing to CB, if the rumour is correct
Edited by Osprey23, 21 June 2016 - 11:15 PM.
Ya hor.
That time CB passed to midfielder. Now is midfielder passing to CB, if the rumour is correct
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Another mega one is brewing. Neymar to PSG.
Sadly, not himCB? Let me guess who is the new captain .. is it Sakho!
Separately, Brazilian club Palmeiras have received bids from Man Utd, Man City and Barcelona for 19 yr old forward Gabriel Jesus. Brazilian media report the bids are Man Utd �19.5 mill, Man City �21.5 mill and Barcelona �19 mill plus �5 mill in bonuses
Edited by Osprey23, 22 June 2016 - 07:11 AM.
Huh.... Centre Back not many and cannot be new comer Matip which is difficult to convince. Sketel on way out. Who else, Loveren? Not likely. I will be surprise if this is true.Sadly, not him
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Between Sakho and Lovren, Sakho will be my choice all day.
But if really Lovren gets it, I just have to accept and support him.
Raiola has confirmed to Marca that they are in the early stage of negotiations with Real Madrid for Pogba. [Sky]
Looks like it is happening. The biggest deal for this summer is happening
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Zidane has always appreciated the sai gang warriors, like his teammate Makelele previously, so he could roam freely upfront
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This is what I mean. Spurs get Wanyama for cheap and we are paying "carrot head" price for Mane.
Overpaid for Lovren, Lallana and now Mane. Only Clyne is at reasonable price.
Klopp remains keen to sign Southampton's Sadio Mane, 24, for a �30m fee. (Paul Joyce)
This is what I mean. Spurs get Wanyama for cheap and we are paying "carrot head" price for Mane.
Overpaid for Lovren, Lallana and now Mane. Only Clyne is at reasonable price.
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Klopp remains keen to sign Southampton's Sadio Mane, 24, for a �30m fee. (Paul Joyce)
This is what I mean. Spurs get Wanyama for cheap and we are paying "carrot head" price for Mane.
Overpaid for Lovren, Lallana and now Mane. Only Clyne is at reasonable price.
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Ryan Giggs is on the brink of becoming the new Nottingham Forest manager. (Source: Mirror)
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"You'll never walk alone" is definitely an iconic song which makes goose pimples and your hairs stand on ends especially when sung in an enclosed stadium. A quick check tells you an amazing story.
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[Source:�https://en.wikipedia...ever_Walk_Alone]
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Klopp remains keen to sign Southampton's Sadio Mane, 24, for a �30m fee. (Paul Joyce)
This is what I mean. Spurs get Wanyama for cheap and we are paying "carrot head" price for Mane.
Overpaid for Lovren, Lallana and now Mane. Only Clyne is at reasonable price.
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And when Man C play in their home ground, they use the banner cover the empty seat
So many clubs copy Liverpool.
YNWA is not just a nice song, it is an iconic song, it is a song that many supporters can identify with, not just in success but in struggles too, sticking together rain or shine. So of course lots of clubs want to copy Liverpool or want to claim credit over the song. Cannot possibly copy "glory glory gay united' right?
Breel Embolo asked what song he'd like played at his funeral:
My favorite song perhaps, "You'll never walk alone"
http://www.schweizer...alt-auto-euro16
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wow, i thought that was anfield
something doesnt quite add up... no club interested in the captain of liverpool? he is supposed to be reaching the prime of his career soon leh
Schalke moved fast to secure replacement for San� it seems.
Said before, once Xakha is sold, very difficult for Pool to get Dahoud
Globo is very reliable when Brazilian players are involved. They broke the interest on Pool's Internet in Firmino before anyone knows about it
Once agn pool looks to b missing out on their main targets, n will end up paying stupid money for 2nd n 3rd choices.
Mane definitely the case. As long as Klopp thinks that he is worth �30m, so be it then.
YNWA is not just a nice song, it is an iconic song, it is a song that many supporters can identify with, not just in success but in struggles too, sticking together rain or shine. So of course lots of clubs want to copy Liverpool or want to claim credit over the song. Cannot possibly copy "glory glory gay united' right?
ManU fellas cannot be gay, why even LVG says that then team is horny and everytime I hear this song at OT, I mari-kita, don't believe you can go ask Ryan Giggs :)
ManU fellas cannot be gay, why even LVG says that then team is horny and everytime I hear this song at OT, I mari-kita, don't believe you can go ask Ryan Giggs :)
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Seems like one of longest serving staff at Chelsea is heading out
http://www.telegraph...rs-exit-as-clu/
Edited by Hamburger, 22 June 2016 - 11:49 PM.
U have the best and most copied anthem there.So far nothing from anfield....haiz
So far nothing from anfield....haiz
Hehe, 3 signings prior to Euros, consider good liao.
Actually there are couple of links which I didn't share as they are probably rubbish.
Spurs are reportedly chasing him as well.
Edited by Osprey23, 23 June 2016 - 07:49 AM.
Something coming out from Anfield.
Joe Allen leaving for Swansea after Euro, according to Telegraph.
Nothing much going into Anfield apparently.
Burnley agreed to switch fixture. Pool having 3 away games at the start of season
Its obvious, he wants to play for the best club in the world.
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So far nothing from anfield....haiz
u have a nice museum though...
YNWA is not just a nice song, it is an iconic song, it is a song that many supporters can identify with, not just in success but in struggles too, sticking together rain or shine. So of course lots of clubs want to copy Liverpool or want to claim credit over the song. Cannot possibly copy "glory glory gay united' right?
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Yup, am sure brenda would always love this song as well....
According to Daily Mirror, Man Utd have upped their offer for Mkhitaryan to �28m after seeing their initial �19m bid rejected.
this club really got a lot of money to throw. one time up straight away 9m increase. very good!
Just for Bro HB.
Something coming out from Anfield.
Joe Allen leaving for Swansea after Euro, according to Telegraph.
Nothing much going into Anfield apparently.
Burnley agreed to switch fixture. Pool having 3 away games at the start of season
aft his good showings towards the end of the season n also in the euros, i might b gd if pool keep him. in this form, i rate him higher than hendo. will b a useful squad player.
this club really got a lot of money to throw. one time up straight away 9m increase. very good!
aft his good showings towards the end of the season n also in the euros, i might b gd if pool keep him. in this form, i rate him higher than hendo. will b a useful squad player.
I agree, but that again Hendo was injured for quite a while
aft his good showings towards the end of the season n also in the euros, i might b gd if pool keep him. in this form, i rate him higher than hendo. will b a useful squad player.
I believe all Pool fans feel the same but Allen doesn't want to be a squad player. At Swansea, he probably will be a regular starter. Also hearing his missus wants to return to be closer to her family as well.
I like Joe Allen. Cool character who works hard.I believe all Pool fans feel the same but Allen doesn't want to be a squad player. At Swansea, he probably will be a regular starter. Also hearing his missus wants to return to be closer to her family as well.
Hope the rumours are fake and he stays in Liverpool.
Don't really like Henderson. Not a great leader and not inspirational.Which club wants to buy him, bro?
Milner/Emre Can/Joe Allen...much better...
wow, very good deal if true
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aft his good showings towards the end of the season n also in the euros, i might b gd if pool keep him. in this form, i rate him higher than hendo. will b a useful squad player.
Some players need a run of games to show their worth. Starting n stopping upsets rhythm n sometimes confidence as well. Joe Allen is one of these kind of players n that's why some of them prefer to leave even for a lower placed team so as to play more regularly n prove themselves. Think Benteke is another one but the stakes are high in EPL so can't afford this kind of luxury I'm afraid.
Liverpool reportedly closing in on a �25m deal for Southampton winger, Sadio Mane
Reports from Italy claim Piotr Zielinski will have a medical with Liverpool after Euro2016� is over.
Liverpool reportedly closing in on a �25m deal for Southampton winger, Sadio Mane
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vardy rejected arsenal n staying at leicester.
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vardy rejected arsenal n staying at leicester.
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happy we are not paying 20m pound for a 29yr old, sad that we cannot even attract someone like vardy
Hehe. True. Happy n sad at the same time.happy we are not paying 20m pound for a 29yr old, sad that we cannot even attract someone like vardy
vardy rejected arsenal n staying at leicester.
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Also good... else Leicester will chui next season ...
Yes please. Help Balo
happy we are not paying 20m pound for a 29yr old, sad that we cannot even attract someone like vardy
I think we can all be happy to see loyalty in football. Don't think is Arsenal not attractive enough but rather, he prefers to stay loyal.
Told to come back again next summer.
I think we can all be happy to see loyalty in football. Don't think is Arsenal not attractive enough but rather, he prefers to stay loyal.
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Better chance of winning the league
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with Leicester than Arsenal
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so why leave? It will just be a step down.
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Respect for Vardy just went up a notchvardy rejected arsenal n staying at leicester.
Wow. Super big golden handshake.
Emery to take over apparently
I don see it as much of a loyalty. More likely cos leicester upped his salary to match ars offer. If lei hadnt done that, i tink he would hv gone. Its like, my company offering me a big salary, n im already comfortable in the current plc, y move?Respect for Vardy just went up a notch
No loss for blanc. I will b glad to b sacked if my severance package is that big.
For these guys, it's not a matter of pay but more of professional pride cos being sacked is a black mark in your resume but admittedly almost all football managers have been sacked at least once even JM n of course the big severance pay helps to cushion this blow.
I don see it as much of a loyalty. More likely cos leicester upped his salary to match ars offer. If lei hadnt done that, i tink he would hv gone. Its like, my company offering me a big salary, n im already comfortable in the current plc, y move?
This is the main point here, not loyalty, not stepdown, not whateva, it all boils down to money. there will be no smoke without fire.
I don see it as much of a loyalty. More likely cos leicester upped his salary to match ars offer. If lei hadnt done that, i tink he would hv gone. Its like, my company offering me a big salary, n im already comfortable in the current plc, y move?
To a certain extent I do agree with u that the upping of pay has more say than his loyalty but then again not really wrong to say he has stayed loyal to Leicester.
Besides loyalty n money, other factors which helped Vardy decide on staying could be more playing time, team style suited to his strengths, familiarity, being a big fish at Leicester compared to being amongst similar or bigger fishes at Arsenal etc. Like anyone deciding on a new job, I'm sure he weighed the pros n cons before deciding n I won't fault him either way he chooses.
Should he continue to prosper at Leicester, he would look back later to say he made the right choice but on the flip side, if Arsenal go on to bigger things as expected next season, he could rue not being part of the Gunners set up but aren't we all wiser on hindsight?
This is the main point here, not loyalty, not stepdown, not whateva, it all boils down to money. there will be no smoke without fire.
Nothing wrong to move for money as afterall he is a professional n more so for Vardy who has only reap his rewards at such a late stage of his career. What pisses off most fans is the way some players go about it like forcing a move, publicly denouncing his club etc. Vardy has done none of this so hypothetically, I'm sure if he had chosen to move to Arsenal, the Leicester fans whilst admittedly disappointed, would not have begrudge him his move to a bigger club after all.
For sure, Leicester upped his salary. But he would gotten a similar wage increase anyway, if not more, if he goes to another club.I don see it as much of a loyalty. More likely cos leicester upped his salary to match ars offer. If lei hadnt done that, i tink he would hv gone. Its like, my company offering me a big salary, n im already comfortable in the current plc, y move?
For these guys, it's not a matter of pay but more of professional pride cos being sacked is a black mark in your resume but admittedly almost all football managers have been sacked at least once even JM n of course the big severance pay helps to cushion this blow.
i dont tink it affects much for their reputation if they get fired. so many good managers hv gotten the sack, n yet they still received offers fm big clubs. cos for managers, being sacked has many reasons, not only bcos they r not good. so while not affecting his reputation n at the same time getting the huge payout, its really no big loss for blanc.
For sure, Leicester upped his salary. But he would gotten a similar wage increase anyway, if not more, if he goes to another club.
thats y i say...due to leicester increasing his salary that he decided to stay. sure he will get more or less the same at arsenal. but y move to uncertainty when he is secured at current place.�
thats y i say...due to leicester increasing his salary that he decided to stay. sure he will get more or less the same at arsenal. but y move to uncertainty when he is secured at current place.�
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of course, certainty and stability are compelling factors and that is on the assumption Vardy is not a risk-taker and rather be assured of a place in the starting line-up.
Will English clubs suffers if Britain put out of Euro ?
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If they pull out, no more European countries and thereby, UCL & UEL affected.... �
I think we can all be happy to see loyalty in football. Don't think is Arsenal not attractive enough but rather, he prefers to stay loyal.
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not sure about loyalty if leicester did not match the pay arsenal is offering
Will English clubs suffers if Britain put out of Euro ?
If they pull out, no more European countries and thereby, UCL & UEL affected....![]()
I think it is not an issue for EPL teams to participate in UCL& UEL, as teams from Russia and those non EU country had been competing in UCL & UEL. These 2 tournaments are for all European countries and not just countries from EUROPEAN UNION.
Will English clubs suffers if Britain put out of Euro ?
If they pull out, no more European countries and thereby, UCL & UEL affected....![]()
There will be no effect to EPL clubs as far as UCL n UEL is concerned. Some European countries who are not in EU also take part so status quo.
As far as players r concerned, no more free pass for players from EU countries to ply their trade in EPL. Instead they will follow players coming from rest of the world like South America where they have a criteria to assess whether work permit will be granted.
Eg Kante n Payet will need a work permit this summer unlike last and they might not even get it based on their lack of International caps last Year. But of course those already plying their trade here with contracts will not be told to leave but they may need to get a work permit when their contract expires.
The Brits had voted to leave the EU, so what will happen to those players from the EU in EPL? They will need work permit to play in Uk?
possible transfers may have to be put on hold
applications for work permits and appeals will cost clubs more money.
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british players in other EU countries, like gareth bale, will require work permits.
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applications for work permits and appeals will cost clubs more money.
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british players in other EU countries, like gareth bale, will require work permits.
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In that sense, maybe can promote the English clubs to promote more of their youths ...
So, in the long run, may bode well for 3Lions ..
In that sense, maybe can promote the English clubs to promote more of their youths ...
So, in the long run, may bode well for 3Lions ..
Well said bro, agreed! The positive out of this Brexit is that likely English youths will get more chances n this def bodes well for the England National Team but less EU players will get a chance to ply their trade in EPL n we will unlikely see unknowns like Payet n Kante being unearthed.
Well said bro, agreed! The positive out of this Brexit is that likely English youths will get more chances n this def bodes well for the England National Team but less EU players will get a chance to ply their trade in EPL n we will unlikely see unknowns like Payet n Kante being unearthed.
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it may promote more youths but not necessarily improve the 3 lions... the reason of having foreign players was actually so they could pass some skills to the players thus improving them
it may promote more youths but not necessarily improve the 3 lions... the reason of having foreign players was actually so they could pass some skills to the players thus improving them
Like how having more foreigners in SG is good the SG PMET?
one immediate impact of Brexit is the devaluation of the pound - this is will affect EPL's club's spending power. �
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Each player that a EPL club wants to buy from an EU club just got more expensive by around 7% �this morning alone.�
one immediate impact of Brexit is the devaluation of the pound - this is will affect EPL's club's spending power. �
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Each player that a EPL club wants to buy from an EU club just got more expensive by around 7% �this morning alone.�
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It also means EPL player are now cheaper and more affordable to the vultures in La Liga, Ligue, etc.
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Plus clubs will be cheaper to buy... Quick, where's the next sugar daddy??
it may promote more youths but not necessarily improve the 3 lions... the reason of having foreign players was actually so they could pass some skills to the players thus improving them
More English youths given a chance would likely mean some gems being uncovered as they will have more playing time unlike the present situation. The foreign players improving the English I don't quite agree cos the foreign players are blocking the English players route so how to improve them? Abit like how the China players blocking our locals in TT!
not sure about loyalty if leicester did not match the pay arsenal is offering
Leicester rewarding him for what he is worth and deserved and he repaid the club with his loyalty by staying.
Of course, if Leicester refused to match, there might not even be a question of him not being loyal. Many agreed here that he should move as it is his last chance to join a big club.
Next week expecting news on Mane to Liverpool then
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Nathan Redmond will have a medical at Southampton tomorrow. Fee of around �10m agreed with Norwich. [John Percy, Telegraph]
Next week expecting news on Mane to Liverpool then
Finally Bro Osprey :))
Finally Bro Osprey :))
Rumoured �25m plus �5m add on.
Overpaying for sure but if he is the best alternative to Dembele that Klopp has decided on, I am glad that FSG has backed him.
Once Balo and Benteke shipped, expect us to move for a striker as well. Klopp wants an established one
Rumoured �25m plus �5m add on.
Overpaying for sure but if he is the best alternative to Dembele that Klopp has decided on, I am glad that FSG has backed him.
Once Balo and Benteke shipped, expect us to move for a striker as well. Klopp wants an established one
I had posted earlier that i thought �25mil would be the top end to pay for Mane so I'm surprised Pool willing to add on �5mil more but u r right that FSG should back Klopp up n I suppose disproves this article in the Mirror:
http://www.mirror.co...ruggles-8259069
I had posted earlier that i thought �25mil would be the top end to pay for Mane so I'm surprised Pool willing to add on �5mil more but u r right that FSG should back Klopp up n I suppose disproves this article in the Mirror:
http://www.mirror.co...ruggles-8259069
Many didn't realise that even though the personnel within the transfer committee are around, the way they operate is different now. BR was part of the committee with veto rights but Klopp has the transfer committee working for him.
Frankly, the only one whom the TC has strong recommendation in is Karius. Hunter and Fallows know Karius since Man City days. Other than that, Buvac recommended Grujic, Klopp personally wanted Matip and Zielinski, Wagner recommended Chilwell.
Mane when he was in RB Salzburg was already wanted by Klopp when he was BVB. Though not first choice, it is no surprise that Klopp targeting him after losing Dembele.
Thus, no idea why some sections of Pool fans are abusing the TC over the targets. If they are unhappy, why not just call for Klopp to be sacked then.
Personally, I do not believe in condemning a player before he even started kicking the ball for his new club.
Many didn't realise that even though the personnel within the transfer committee are around, the way they operate is different now. BR was part of the committee with veto rights but Klopp has the transfer committee working for him.
Frankly, the only one whom the TC has strong recommendation in is Karius. Hunter and Fallows know Karius since Man City days. Other than that, Buvac recommended Grujic, Klopp personally wanted Matip and Zielinski, Wagner recommended Chilwell.
Mane when he was in RB Salzburg was already wanted by Klopp when he was BVB. Though not first choice, it is no surprise that Klopp targeting him after losing Dembele.
Thus, no idea why some sections of Pool fans are abusing the TC over the targets. If they are unhappy, why not just call for Klopp to be sacked then.
Personally, I do not believe in condemning a player before he even started kicking the ball for his new club.
I like Mane. Skilful, quick n dares to take on defenders. Last year Man U were rumoured to want him n the United fans were up in arms cos they had bigger targets lined up, they were also questioning Martial when he joined. Must admit I also scratching my head on Martial but I always believe to give players a chance esp since the Mgr wants him so totally agree with u.
As i always say, back the Mgr up but it's also a fact of buying players that some won't turn out right for various reasons but that should not deter a club as even the best Mgrs get it wrong sometimes. Fergie with Bebe, JM selling de Bruyne n Lukaku n many more.
The Polish Zielinski doesn't seem impressive so far at Euros but will Hv to trust Klopp on this. One more chance to see him Tonite!
Like how having more foreigners in SG is good the SG PMET?
Yes absolutely...lol
Yes absolutely...lol
I do subscribe to having talented foreigners but not unfettered access though.
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I do subscribe to having talented foreigners but not unfettered access though.
Sometimes watching EPL match but the entire team only 1 English player.
Then it depends what you want, quality or quantity.... except for English clubs, you don't see other euro clubs having the same issue... there must be a reason why... and it seems to correlate to tv rights too lol
Watched him briefly last night. Still quite raw. Bundesliga for now will be better for his development.
With his joining, likely we will see San� coming to BPL then
As promised.
Sadio Mane to have medical at Liverpool on Monday. �30m deal. [Paul Joyce]
As promised.
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Think the pound just got a lot cheaper versus the USD. �Better buy the player now to realise the potential savings :)�
Man City and some other big clubs are after him too. Will be tough.
Must say hammers are very active this window as well. Pushing on to better last season I believe
Man u on the move already ,
Mkhitaryan and Ibra should be signing soon .
Messi retiring from international football ... at such a young age of 29 ...
Yup. Should have more to follow.Man u on the move already ,
Mkhitaryan and Ibra should be signing soon .
Jose want to return with a bang.
Messi retiring from international football ... at such a young age of 29 ...
Javier Masherano (age 32) �also retiring together with Messi.
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Pool should re-sign Macherano back on free transfer, should Barca release him.
Aguero also right?Javier Masherano (age 32) also retiring together with Messi.
Pool should re-sign Macherano back on free transfer, should Barca release him.
Messi retiring from international football ... at such a young age of 29 ...
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Serious? He still has it leh. Should give it another shot in world cup 2018 at least.
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Or is it the criticism? Maradona said don't go home unless they win copa...
Javier Masherano (age 32) �also retiring together with Messi.
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Pool should re-sign Macherano back on free transfer, should Barca release him.
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Many teams will want him if Barca doesn't. If Barca didn't play him as a CD, he should be the best DM around, or at least one of the top few.
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But think Barca will keep him...
Messi retiring from international football ... at such a young age of 29 ...
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while he is no doubt the best (or perhaps 2nd best) player of his generation, his international career will forever cast a shadow on his achievements. It is a shame he couldn't lead argentina to at least one world cup. Same goes for C. Ronaldo
Can't even win Copa, dun talk about WC where its considerably tougherwhile he is no doubt the best (or perhaps 2nd best) player of his generation, his international career will forever cast a shadow on his achievements. It is a shame he couldn't lead argentina to at least one world cup. Same goes for C. Ronaldo
while he is no doubt the best (or perhaps 2nd best) player of his generation, his international career will forever cast a shadow on his achievements. It is a shame he couldn't lead argentina to at least one world cup. Same goes for C. Ronaldo
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CR7 still have able to explain why the country didn't win the WC.
The whole team basically is relying on him..
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For Messi, it is totally a different story...
Argentina is full of world class stars yet their result is lousy.
Can't even win a copa with all its stars at the peak!
I do hope that mikhitaryan.. wow. Hard to spell his name. I shall call him mik hat trick.Man u on the move already ,
Mkhitaryan and Ibra should be signing soon .
I hope he join spurs leh. Haha. Hope spurs put a serious bid.
Last season dortmund went to play spurs at whl abeit against spurs 2nd team thus not seen the best of his potential new team mates mah. Haha
CR7 still have able to explain why the country didn't win the WC.
The whole team basically is relying on him..
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For Messi, it is totally a different story...
Argentina is full of world class stars yet their result is lousy.
Can't even win a copa with all its stars at the peak!
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true, i can also think of a few legends like zidane and maradona who led their teams that were average or relatively average to the world cup. Such moments are those that will stick with the player forever.
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scoring 40-50 goals per season (and every season) for barca or RM is very impressive, but after a while, it loses some shine
Aguero also right?
Yeah. Messi, Mascherano and Aguero.
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Yup. Should have more to follow.
Jose want to return with a bang.
man u� midfielder very congested liao,
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true, i can also think of a few legends like zidane and maradona who led their teams that were average or relatively average to the world cup. Such moments are those that will stick with the player forever.
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scoring 40-50 goals per season (and every season) for barca or RM is very impressive, but after a while, it loses some shine
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scoring very regularly in the la liga is quite common. I doubt they can do likewise in the EPL where even the smaller clubs are pretty competitive and can cause an upset any day with a bigger club. �
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I just hope to see fighting and confrontation on and off the pitch this season. If Ibra joins scum I hope he tries to punch Pep during the Manchester derby and hit si gin na instead�
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I dont think the special one dares to touch merseyside's double K coz they are of bigger size, more likely he will bully the tinkerman, his voyeur and pep�
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I just hope to see fighting and confrontation on and off the pitch this season. If Ibra joins scum I hope he tries to punch Pep during the Manchester derby and hit si gin na instead�
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I dont think the special one dares to touch merseyside's double K coz they are of bigger size, more likely he will bully the tinkerman, his voyeur and pep�
I love to see him score at least 1 or 2 taekwondo goals in EPL.
CR7 still have able to explain why the country didn't win the WC.
The whole team basically is relying on him..
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For Messi, it is totally a different story...
Argentina is full of world class stars yet their result is lousy.
Can't even win a copa with all its stars at the peak!
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South American team to win WC is not so easy, basically their defense is not that good. When Brazil last won, in fact whenever they won, it was the attack/midfield that stood out. Same with Argentina too.
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With a good attack, they could hope to beat/outscore opponents, especially European ones.
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Now that some European countries are quite good at attack, it is easier for the South American defense to be breached. With a goalie that is a reserve at Man U plus defenders like Rojo, Funes Mori, Otemendi (all of whom did not look top tier in EPL), it will not be easy for Argentina to win WC.
No chance bro. Mkhitaryan confirmed Man Utd. His agent made it very clear.I do hope that mikhitaryan.. wow. Hard to spell his name. I shall call him mik hat trick.
I hope he join spurs leh. Haha. Hope spurs put a serious bid.
Last season dortmund went to play spurs at whl abeit against spurs 2nd team thus not seen the best of his potential new team mates mah. Haha
No chance bro. Mkhitaryan confirmed Man Utd. His agent made it very clear.
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Quite sad with the numbers being talked about to sign someone in the last year of contract :/
EPL next season will be the most exciting to watch ever
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EPL next season will be the most exciting to watch ever
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Leicester may be relegated. I will consider loading up the bets if the odds is 5000:1. hahaha �
Leicester may be relegated. I will consider loading up the bets if the odds is 5000:1. hahaha �
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They are going to win the European Cup. Thats why Vardy stays rather than just want to qualify for Champions League year in year out �Dont know if you saw my post on their cup final against Barcelona or not?�
They are going to win the European Cup. Thats why Vardy stays rather than just want to qualify for Champions League year in year out
�Dont know if you saw my post on their cup final against Barcelona or not?�
with the odds, really can buy abit lol,
their type of soccer is very suitable to play barc , ( u want procession, give u all the procession loh)
and if they can keep their player , like kante
with the odds, really can buy abit lol,
their type of soccer is very suitable to play barc , ( u want procession, give u all the procession loh)
and if they can keep their player , like kante
Yah. I want to see how good Barcelona is when they face a team like Leicester in a real competitive match.
They are going to win the European Cup. Thats why Vardy stays rather than just want to qualify for Champions League year in year out
�Dont know if you saw my post on their cup final against Barcelona or not?�
No conflict at all.
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Leicester can win the European championship and yet be relegated domestically to play championship the following season woh. ��
No conflict at all.
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Leicester can win the European championship and yet be relegated domestically to play championship the following season woh. ��
�buy 100 buks, and keep the ticket.
who know u might just won a car coe , end of season
http://www.mirror.co...io-mane-8292261
man u� midfielder very congested liao,
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def is the area they need to shore up.
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( not a man u fan, but J.M fan)
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hope he prove all his critcis wrong
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Speaking of MFs... this Arsene still obsessed with buying more
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Now chasing Kante... sure he can run all day... but just how many MFs are needed in this team?
Looks like it is �30m rising to �34.5m for Mane.
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actually if we pay 34.5, means he's doing good !!!�
Wah piangz!! Figure getting higher and higheractually if we pay 34.5, means he's doing good !!!
Liverpool could end up paying �38.5m for Sadio Man� depending on appearances & success. (Sam Wallace Telegraph)
Wah piangz!! Figure getting higher and higher
Liverpool could end up paying �38.5m for Sadio Man� depending on appearances & success. (Sam Wallace Telegraph)
It would be justified if Pool finish at least top 4.
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If he scores 20 goal or more per season why not.
Wah piangz!! Figure getting higher and higher
Liverpool could end up paying �38.5m for Sadio Man� depending on appearances & success. (Sam Wallace Telegraph)
I had encouraged FSG to pay the going rate n even abit more to buy the players the Mgr wants but this one sounds over the top n I'm surprised at their stance which has proved me wrong. Added to Wenger's purchase of Xhaka for �32m n looks like this window, I have to eat my words!
Must be English coz if it is not their work permit might be rejected
Mane shd cost more than 38M imho...� �... if couthinio score lesser than mane and pools asking for more than 50M, i dun see why not ya...�
I remembered Stuart pearce was coach for u21 for so long, why he not in list?
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I remembered Stuart pearce was coach for u21 for so long, why he not in list?
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I remembered Stuart pearce was coach for u21 for so long, why he not in list?
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He wouldn't there be long if he is the senior team coach.
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is any club after G.pelle??
I remembered Stuart pearce was coach for u21 for so long, why he not in list?
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is any club after G.pelle??
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is any club after G.pelle??
he plays for southampton, right? so bismarck is correct...must b pool after him.
This one seems to have legGunner gunning for FM wonder kid Barbosa
You got a point put apparently that little chip against DDG is worth �20m alone. Mane I don't think is capable of that.Mane shd cost more than 38M imho...
... if couthinio score lesser than mane and pools asking for more than 50M, i dun see why not ya...
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BR is a good bet at 16/1
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He has managed the biggest club
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He also have a 500 page document
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Pool have until July 1 to trump Man Utd and Everton to Euro 2016 star LIVERPOOL have until July 1 to activate Nani�s �8.5million (�7.05m) release clause, according to reports
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Which club is he from?
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Soton?
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Then its Pool.
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I remembered Stuart pearce was coach for u21 for so long, why he not in list?
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He is a psycho.
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Wah piangz!! Figure getting higher and higher
Liverpool could end up paying �38.5m for Sadio Man� depending on appearances & success. (Sam Wallace Telegraph)
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5m for signing
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1 million for every goal.
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BR is a good bet at 16/1
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Then he can take over Woy as the best england manager ever have, and lead England losing to Singapore 1-0�
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Respected�Echo�journalist Ian Doyle has revealed that Brendan Rodgers rejected the chance to bring Sadio Mane to the club two years ago.
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Doyle writes that Mane was heavily scouted by the club, but Rodgers choose to ignore the staffs� advice and was thus left with little wriggle room when the transfer committee decided to take a �16 million gamble on Italian misfit Mario Balotelli.
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Doyle also reports that Mane is a player whom Klopp was extremely interested in during his time at Dortmund.
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Klopp watched the player developed at Red Bull�Salzburg and wanted to bring him to Germany, but the deal never materialised.
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We could have had Mane for 12m but got Bolotelli for 16 instead.
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Him again.
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And what a chip that was!This one seems to have leg
You got a point put apparently that little chip against DDG is worth £20m alone. Mane I don't think is capable of that.
Balotelli was bought to showcase best man's coaching abilityWe could have had Mane for 12m but got Bolotelli for 16 instead.
Him again.
And to confirm his status as the best man-manager in world football
Do you know who did BR go for in favour of Mane who was recommended by the committee?We could have had Mane for 12m but got Bolotelli for 16 instead.
Him again.
Lallana.
Ended up, Southampton signed Mane as the replacement and now we sign the replacement as well.
Do you know who did BR go for in favour of Mane who was recommended by the committee?
Lallana.
Ended up, Southampton signed Mane as the replacement and now we sign the replacement as well.
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So we will be signing Nathan Redmen
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Unlikely. I believe right now Klopp and the recruitment team are more or less in sync.So we will be signing Nathan Redmen
next year then.
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Bad news for Spurs. Good news for Everton
Finally unveiled. The team Batshuayi will be joining is Chelsea. �40 million euros. 5-year contract.
Bad news for Spurs. Good news for Everton
Huh? Out of the blue this one cos I thought Palace had their bid accepted but Spurs set to gate crash?
Chelsea not mentioned at all previously. Thought the Blues were targeting Morata n possibly Lukaku?
Don't think this is a fair comment. He says EPL is a Skoda being packaged as a Lambo
You picked my mind on why the 3 behind, they are offering different attacking dimension that will create more scoring opportunity. More importantly on Mane, he provides the speed on transition that is agonisingly lacking from last season.
Origi and Ings can step in for Sturridge when needed. Firmino and Mane are other options. We might move for another striker if both Benteke and Balotelli are off the books. But I don't think it is a priority.
I know the limitation on Moreno but I have a feeling Klopp likes him. Not as a person of course but what he offers offensively. Coutinho is always cutting in, that's why Klopp want a LB that will push up to provide width. Heard many times, people keep complaining Moreno is out of position when we are defending a counter. But my question is, how are we going to expect him to be supporting the attack and be back to defend? Unless he is Flash or he has a twin. So whoever Klopp sign as LB, if he is to support on the wing, the system must be in place for a DM or the LCB to cover the hole left behind due to tactical requirement of the LB.
As for the partner for Can, as mentioned in my reply to bro Spring, that's the final key position for Klopp to address. He wants Dahoud.
I hair stood on ends when I saw in a game before he got injured where Danny Ings almost scored, and immediately ran almost the whole field to make a beautiful last ditch tackle on an opponent who counterattack very quickly!
He will be a great potential if he stays away from injury.
Coutinho, Firmino, Mane, the hardworking and multi-talented Milner and Lallana can rotate behind any of them. (Not sure if any of these guys have departed).
My choice of the 2 behind is firmly Emre Can and Joe Allen.
no morata please
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almost 40m... and you consider pool as not one of the rich clubs?
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I think he meant world class club for world class players ba..
Right now there is only a few... Baca, RM, BM, Manu....
Fooblacki agree that 4-2-3-1 suits pool much better too. Pool played their best football last season using this formation. If sturridge is fit, then we are looking at quite a formidable front line that can match almost any other team in the EPL. Coutinho with the technical passes and long shots, Firmino with the guile and goals, Sane with raw pace, dribbles...
The problem is once Sturridge is injured which more likely than not, we are then looking at Origi or moving Firmino into the front striker role. The likes of lallana and milner will then fill the forward position.
Emre Can looks the confirmed central midfielder role. so, Klopp will make a choice between henderson, Gruijic, Zelinski or even Allen to play besides Can. I am not sure whether we need another CM/DM unless we start offloading at least 2 midfielders.. which could well be Klopp's plan.
we still need a LB for sure. Moreno can't defend and always a liability during tight games..
Otherwise, the rest of the squad looks like settled, especially that we wont need a big squad since no euro football... toppings on the cake would be a WC striker, another CB (esp if Sakho's situation remains unclear)...
Agree on your comments.
I like Moreno. DMs should help to cover, like what Joe Allen and Emre Can always does!
Btw, FooBlack and Osprey, your comments would be great if posted in Liverpool with Kopp thread.
FYI, my son supports Liverpool. I'm a Chelsea man.
Doesn't seem to have a Chelsea thread..
Gone are the days where signings like klinsmann. Zola. Bergkamp liao...If I am to be brutally honest, there is the reason why we are always looking at the same targets as Saints and Spurs. we are targeting at the same tier players that is within reach. World class players will be snapped up by rich clubs. We can only aim for those who are about to break into that world class status. Suarez is the successful example. So, naturally, if the scouts at those clubs are doing their job well and not frauds, the assessments and recommendation will more or less be the same.
As for Mane, I am assuming that Klopp will be going for his pet formation 4-2-3-1. Striker sorted. I will have Coutinho, Firmino and Mane as the 3 behind. That's how I will use him primarily. 2nd better option, is to play him as a 2nd striker in a 4-4-2 (flat or diamond).
Klopp's priority positions are mainly sorted barring one. The midfield controller.
Grujic and Zielinski are both not in that mould. Only Dahoud.
Nowadays true world class stars cost more than many bombs plus with the champions league lure. No more such transfers liao.
Unless that world class star actually openly declares its pool or nothing. I dun play for the money
a Lukaku type will complement Giroud. Sometimes you really need a battering ram�
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i am really wondering if there is really an available striker that is better than giroud
Lukaku? Sturridge?
yah lor, I still dun understand the fuss about him. Good meh ? Giroud offers more movement then him.
Klopp wants him. But can't compete.
That's nice. From Dino Woy to Mammoth Arry.
Back to transfer. Nolito is edging close to a move to Man City
Also, Steve Mandanda is attracting interest from BPL clubs. Everton and Palace have both held talks with the player's agent.
Edited by Osprey23, 29 June 2016 - 04:52 PM.
Man Utd got their man.
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Man Utd got their man.
**The reports said Dortmund are set to accept the offer -- which would be the biggest transfer fee ever paid for a player entering the final year of his contract in Europe -- and the deal will be completed in the coming days.
http://www.espnfcasi...itaryan-reports
Really is jin rich lor ~
Frankly, they will only fail to land their target when the player doesn't want to join. Asking price from selling club is never going to be an issue.
Harry Redknapp has put his name forward to be considered as the next England manager.
That's nice. From Dino Woy to Mammoth Arry.
Back to transfer. Nolito is edging close to a move to Man City
Also, Steve Mandanda is attracting interest from BPL clubs. Everton and Palace have both held talks with the player's agent.
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i am really wondering if there is really an available striker that is better than giroud
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IMO it's not about getting a better striker than Giroud but more a complimentary one who gives another option from Giroud. This striker could also replace Giroud when he is out injured, suspended etc. Problem of course is to keep both happy.
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The signing of Xhaka is a good example, is he better than Coquelin? I'm not sure but he gives another option which I've posted many times�previously was required (I suggested Wanyama) but Wenger was adamant that Coq alone suffice but now he has changed stance which will only benefit Arsenal I feel.
Bye bye Skrtel.
Liverpool have an agreement with Fenerbahce for around �5m & it is believed it is just personal terms which remain to be thrashed out. (Echo)
Bye bye Skrtel.
Was thinking he should get a dignified exit but not too sure now.
Skrtel insulted Klopp on Instagram
Very coincidental.
Full article: http://www.liverpool...closer-11542709
Edited by Osprey23, 29 June 2016 - 11:22 PM.
Crystal Palace joined race to sign Benteke. West Ham might be switching their attention back to Big Ben as Lacazette is not in favour of the move.
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Chelsea sign batshuayi,
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the position they need reinforcement the most,
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lucky not moreta,
Liverpool have an agreement with Fenerbahce for around �5m & it is believed it is just personal terms which remain to be thrashed out. (Echo)
Bye bye Skrtel.
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with the exit of turtle, our CB list has dwindled to Lovren, Matip, Sakho and potentially Gomez. Sakho still awaiting outcome of his drug jury issue..�
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i think Pool might have to splash the cash for another defender during this summer... �unless they keep lucas as the backup too...�
with the exit of turtle, our CB list has dwindled to Lovren, Matip, Sakho and potentially Gomez. Sakho still awaiting outcome of his drug jury issue..
i think Pool might have to splash the cash for another defender during this summer... unless they keep lucas as the backup too...
Lucas likely next one out of exit door.
For Sakho's case, if they are to ban him once season start, or worse when transfer window closed, my conclusion will be someone in UEFA is trying to do us in.
Lucas likely next one out of exit door.
For Sakho's case, if they are to ban him once season start, or worse when transfer window closed, my conclusion will be someone in UEFA is trying to do us in.
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Its usual the case when UEFA screw up some clubs.
I will prefer to play it safe and buy another defender, also add to the competition�
Frankly, they will only fail to land their target when the player doesn't want to join. Asking price from selling club is never going to be an issue.
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Thats true.
They are consider 1 of the richest club and have a big war chest
wonder if their transfer kitty big enough for pool's indicative valuation.. i think minimum price is 25M and up...�
Benteke may fit into Palace style of play under Alan Pardew.
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Pool is just posturing on price negotiation just to see if CP is just testing water. I also suspect Pool would want to minimise their losses by selling at around 25m pnds.
Chelsea sign batshuayi,
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the position they need reinforcement the most,
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Why lucky not Morata?
Benteke may fit into Palace style of play under Alan Pardew.
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Pool is just posturing on price negotiation just to see if CP is just testing water. I also suspect Pool would want to minimise their losses by selling at around 25m pnds.
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I also feel 25mil pounds is a fair price for both parties. he is still relatively young and is a current�international�striker�after all.�He is not a bad player, just that his style doesn't suit Pool.�
Why lucky not Morata?
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I also feel 25mil pounds is a fair price for both parties. he is still relatively young and is a current�international�striker�after all.�He is not a bad player, just that his style doesn't suit Pool.�
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Thought Pool asking for 30mil pounds ... still cheap considering how much pound has depreciated ...
Thought Pool asking for 30mil pounds ... still cheap considering how much pound has depreciated ...
Unless Man City or one of the bigger teams want him, I don't see how Pool can get 30mil for him.
Of course can try to hold out for that price and hope an auction happens esp if few clubs go after him.
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Not every club like City willing to pay 49mil for Sterling which is carrot head price haha but who knows? Last season I said sell Sterling for 40mil was a good�price but Pool proved me wrong!!
Man Utd got their man.
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Why ManU need to many expensive midfielders ...
Lucas likely next one out of exit door.
For Sakho's case, if they are to ban him once season start, or worse when transfer window closed, my conclusion will be someone in UEFA is trying to do us in.
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i wouldnt rule that out isn't it... looking at how unfair UEFA has been treating Pool in this year's europa competition.�
i wouldnt rule that out isn't it... looking at how unfair UEFA has been treating Pool in this year's europa competition.�
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UEFA against all English clubs, they only favour Barca, Real and to a lesser extent Bayern.
Always been the case esp when Platini was in charge.
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Luckily got FIFA to hand down the transfer ban to Barca cos if it were to be left to UEFA, Barca would have gotten away with only a slap on the wrist. Not to say�FIFA is good cos they also have their favourites as well which is not European clubs.��
LolYour son is smarter than you
Joking aside, you must have supported Chelsea during Dixon/Speckman/Speedie/Nevin time or even earlier like Osgood?
MY son is 10 yo.
I'm not so old...yet.
Zola time.
Don't really like the current batch of players except Oscar, Cahill and a couple of hardworking guys.
Unfortunately, don't like Hazard's attitude.
Sure. Looking forward to new season.You can try starting one or you are most welcome to join us in the BPL general thread, usually start with the new season. :)
Conte seems to be doing well juggling with the Italian team and Chelsea signing. Batshuayi apparently is his preferred choice.
Yup. To beat Spain is no mean feat! Hope he brings this mentality to Chelsea!
Edited by Fitforfun, 30 June 2016 - 11:51 AM.
Lol
MY son is 10 yo.
I'm not so old...yet.
Zola time.
Don't really like the current batch of players except Oscar, Cahill and a couple of hardworking guys.
Unfortunately, don't like Hazard's attitude.
Sure. Looking forward to new season.
Yup. To beat Spain is no mean feat! Hope he brings this mentality to Chelsea!
Conte will surely bring in a new dimension to the Epl competition.
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More intensity, passion and guile to the way curently Chelski is performing on the pitch. Good for fans and viewers.
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But I still think Klopp is better. �
Conte will surely bring in a new dimension to the Epl competition.
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More intensity, passion and guile to the way curently Chelski is performing on the pitch. Good for fans and viewers.
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But I still think Klopp is better. �
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better in terms of entertainment? haha.. looking at him and reactions during matches can be quite funny :)�
better in terms of entertainment? haha.. looking at him and reactions during matches can be quite funny :)�
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For kicking the ball away before it has gone out of play, I feel that he should have gotten yellow card.
For kicking the ball away before it has gone out of play, I feel that he should have gotten yellow card.
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[Manchester evening news]
Pogba prefers to join Real Madrid than joining Manchester United despite his agent Raiola advise to join the Red Devils. Pogba has intimated he would rather stay at Juve than joining United if a Real transfer does not materialize. Pogba's agent advised him to work under Mourinho for 3 yrs ahead of possible move to RM but he's eager to move to Bernabeu sooner than 2019.
[Manchester evening news]
Joining real, or barc have become the pinnacle of all footballers.
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before the call come, he can be like a saint, swearing all the loyalty to the club� fans,
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but once the calling come, not many can resists to keep their horns inside their head
Pogba prefers to join Real Madrid than joining Manchester United despite his agent Raiola advise to join the Red Devils. Pogba has intimated he would rather stay at Juve than joining United if a Real transfer does not materialize. Pogba's agent advised him to work under Mourinho for 3 yrs ahead of possible move to RM but he's eager to move to Bernabeu sooner than 2019.
[Manchester evening news]
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Save the trouble of going to tribunal. Should have some positive impact on the Zielinski deal
This YouTube video explains why Klopp wants Dahoud as his midfield controller.
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kind of confused....so is this Dahoud still available?
kind of confused....so is this Dahoud still available?
MG issued hands off warning. Many feel money talks. If we throw silly money at them, they might deal.
Player is keen though as far as I know.
Joining real, or barc have become the pinnacle of all footballers.
before the call come, he can be like a saint, swearing all the loyalty to the club fans,
but once the calling come, not many can resists to keep their horns inside their head
Not me. If I am a footballer my pinnacle is playing for Liverpool
Silly pogba. Shld return back to Man UPogba prefers to join Real Madrid than joining Manchester United despite his agent Raiola advise to join the Red Devils. Pogba has intimated he would rather stay at Juve than joining United if a Real transfer does not materialize. Pogba's agent advised him to work under Mourinho for 3 yrs ahead of possible move to RM but he's eager to move to Bernabeu sooner than 2019.
[Manchester evening news]
Who doesn't want more money for less work
I think ktglfc will pay the club money to be the groundskeeper !Not me. If I am a footballer my pinnacle is playing for Liverpool
Barcelona and Real Madrid come for me I pui!
I am willing to play for free too
Ktglfc is willing to pay Liverpool to play for them
Silly pogba. Shld return back to Man U
Who doesn't want more money for less work
I think ktglfc will pay the club money to be the groundskeeper !
Yes yes! He is a sucker for Liverpool!
Silly pogba. Shld return back to Man U
Who doesn't want more money for less work
I think ktglfc will pay the club money to be the groundskeeper !
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Once bitten , twice shy...
Silly pogba. Shld return back to Man U
Who doesn't want more money for less work
I think ktglfc will pay the club money to be the groundskeeper !
I hope to have a chance to step into Melwood or go for a stadium tour at Anfield :))
Interesting. Hopefully he is a replacement for someone I like
This latest article from Guardian is the common understanding on Dahoud's situation.
https://www.theguard...monchengladbach
Kante not going there then.
DEAL DONE: Bournemouth have signed Le Havre striker Lys Mousset on a four-year deal.
Edited by Osprey23, 30 June 2016 - 09:50 PM.
Summer 2014 - Lovren signed for Liverpool.
17 Aug 2014 - Clyne scored for Southampton at Anfield.
Summer 2015 - Clyne signed for Liverpool
26 Oct 2015 - Mane scored for Southampton at Anfield
Summer 2016 - Mane signed for Liverpool.
Mystery solved. Watch out for Liverpool vs Southampton next season
BREAKING: Former Nice boss Claude Puel has been appointed as the new manager of Southampton
DEAL DONE: Bournemouth have signed Le Havre striker Lys Mousset on a four-year deal.
Another "good" football chef from abroad trying to whip up their special dish in this hotly contested english cookfest.
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Now we add Puel to Soton - you got added fuel.....ie jia you.
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Wondering which of the epl coaches will be left standing after end of season? �
Zlatan will never let Man Utd announce he is joining.
Andros Townsend is to have medical at Crystal Palace this afternoon. (Source: Sky Sports)
[John Percy, Telegraph]
To my non blue Manchester bros.. the appointment of JM,Giggs leaving and now this chap will see the Manchester being true Blue for many years to come.. Not something I want to see of this great club... But then why I care. I belong to the red side of of Mersey..Zlatan announced he is joining Man Utd.
Zlatan will never let Man Utd announce he is joining.
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Where got bitterness? Man Utd can afford sky high salary so they get a WC striker. Nothing to be bitter about.
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i tot i was in the poo thread with all the the nonsense i'm reading..... let the bitterness stay in the poo thread yah... cheers... muahahahaha
Money talks.
Zlatan announced he is joining Man Utd.
Zlatan will never let Man Utd announce he is joining.
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steady, the ego has really landed in Manchester.�
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this deal makes sense completely... from the commercial perspectives. � Any monies spent on Zlatan will be quite easily recouped thru his shirts' sales.�
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at least, Utd will have a proper striker.. �the only issue is when this old striker's useful life will fall off the cliff due to this grand age..�
steady, the ego has really landed in Manchester.�
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this deal makes sense completely... from the commercial perspectives. � Any monies spent on Zlatan will be quite easily recouped thru his shirts' sales.�
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at least, Utd will have a proper striker.. �the only issue is when this old striker's useful life will fall off the cliff due to this grand age..�
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What I heard rumours were�that already the strikers bunch already not happy and also the midfielders ... ��
JM will be officially taking office today (01/07/2016) and rumours already flying fast that some players are not happy and future unsure if they are playing or warming the benches... � �
Must have put $0.50 above is get out clause.. Shud have $1.10 above..Arsenal have rejected an approach from Juventus for Alexis Sanchez. (Source - Daily Mail)
Its 1 July ... let the new (pre) season begins :))
Can't wait to see Balotelli back. Triple sessions. LOLIts 1 July ... let the new (pre) season begins :))
http://www.foxsports...ine-shop-063016
Player yet to confirm but shirts can order liao
Can sense how eager Man Utd are to get fans to buy the new jerseys with Mkhitaryan printed.
http://www.foxsports...ine-shop-063016
Player yet to confirm but shirts can order liao
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my colleague bought me arsenal away jersey from bangkok last week
http://www.footyhead...7-away-kit.html
only 1 issue....... it is supposed to be launched this month only
This is what we call OEM version
This is what we call OEM version
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if wear now... sure picha lobang is oem�
if wear now... sure picha lobang is oem�
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Later they last min change design how?
Just like that German captain that gone to ManU last season.
After the jersey start to sell with his name and number on, his jersey number changed to another number
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With Mkhitaryan coming in, Juan Mata will be
With Mkhitaryan coming in, Juan Mata will be
Actually, he already started packing his bags together with Ryan Giggs when Jose is confirmed.
Later they last min change design how?
Just like that German captain that gone to ManU last season.
After the jersey start to sell with his name and number on, his jersey number changed to another number
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free gift so never mind... if change design... it becomes limited addition�
if wear now... sure picha lobang is oem�
picha lobang oem nvm. last season i saw a guy wearing the "new" man u jersey, based on the rumours that were circulating ard. it was ugly n impossible to b the actual jersey. n he wore it when the actual new jersey was already out. so everyone will know he wear fake jersey� �
Manchester City have confirmed the signing of Spanish international Nolito from Celta Vigo
14mil pounds I understand which is cheap for a current Spanish International winger.
I'm finding it hard to understand the pricing of the transfer market recently. Some players going for exorbitant amounts whilst others are going for peanuts!
14mil pounds I understand which is cheap for a current Spanish International winger.
I'm finding it hard to understand the pricing of the transfer market recently. Some players going for exorbitant amounts whilst others are going for peanuts!
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Baca get themselves a solid defender with only 25m too..�
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I accept that EPL clubs have to pay more but don't u think Barca, Real and Bayern should be in the same bracket? Lyon President Aulas is another Daniel Levy, damn difficult to negotiate with so I'm surprised he allows a player who has been capped at all levels though not yet full international but in the French Euro's squad, to go at a pittance. He held Chelsea at ransom previously to sign Essien!!
Edited by Spring, 01 July 2016 - 04:03 PM.
14mil pounds I understand which is cheap for a current Spanish International winger.
I'm finding it hard to understand the pricing of the transfer market recently. Some players going for exorbitant amounts whilst others are going for peanuts!
�13.8m is his release clause apparently.
�13.8m is his release clause apparently.
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Barca president still want to be sarcastic saying�financial prudence meant they couldn't sign Nolito, talk cxxk!! Either they don't want him or he turned them down I guess.
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http://www.express.c...transfer-latest
Barca president still want to be sarcastic saying financial prudence meant they couldn't sign Nolito, talk cxxk!! Either they don't want him or he turned them down I guess.
http://www.express.c...transfer-latest
Neymar extending. So actually might not need to buy another attacker.
Confirmed: Neymar signed a 5 year extension to stay at Barcelona till 2021. Release clause at �200m, rising to �250m in the third year.Neymar extending. So actually might not need to buy another attacker.
Just need Benteke to complete the window
Manchester City have confirmed the signing of Spanish international Nolito from Celta Vigo
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Confirmed: Neymar signed a 5 year extension to stay at Barcelona till 2021. Release clause at �200m, rising to �250m in the third year.
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there is only one king and he is not a hooligan or scum.
Believed to be �25m. Pool wants �30m.
Bad news for Everton - John Stones wants to leave, holding for �50m from ManCity
Good news for Everton - bidding �30m for Axel Witsel.
Bad news for Everton - John Stones wants to leave, holding for �50m from ManCity
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Eye catching B2B when he was in Benfica partnering Matic. Then took a chance and moved to Zenit. I think this move didn't really work well for him and hence you hear his name mentioned during windows as his agent is working hard :)every off season, this Witsel name sure to come up, but good meh ? saw him during this Euro, nothing special. Don't know what his role was.
Good player but for one entering last year of contract, �30m seems a little high
Well...if a club willing to pay 42m for a player with 1 yr left, y not 30m?Eye catching B2B when he was in Benfica partnering Matic. Then took a chance and moved to Zenit. I think this move didn't really work well for him and hence you hear his name mentioned during windows as his agent is working hard :)
Good player but for one entering last year of contract, £30m seems a little high
there is only one king and he is not a hooligan or scum.
And he doesn't know karate kick too
From mirror online:
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Something in life are certain: Death, Tax and Ah Seng not signing a decent strker.
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Gunner fans agreed and took it to social media:
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Chelsea - Batschuayi 
Man Utd - Ibrahimovic
Liverpool - Mane
ManCity - Nolito
Arsenal - Japaneese guy 


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every off season, this Witsel name sure to come up, but good meh ? saw him during this Euro, nothing special. Don't know what his role was.
I can't comment much on him cos I've not seen enough but from what I read n hear, he is being told to play alongside Naingolaan as the 2 players shielding the back 4 for the National team though he is more comfortable playing further up. An all round midfielder I'm reading so maybe we not seeing his true Colours at the Euros.
Great signing !!
A reunion with his old manager about a decade back. Good for him.Juan Mata has been spotted on Merseyside ahead of finalising £30M move to Everton from Man Utd
Great signing !!
Mkhitaryan is almost done....
Just lacking the official news...
Strengthening for UCL. Insisting Mendy is not a replacement for Kante
Juan Mata has been spotted on Merseyside ahead of finalising �30M move to Everton from Man Utd
Great signing !!
Bro, u joking or serious? Didn't see this coming if true.
BTW, what's the latest on Kante? Seems so many teams after him. Reading it's Chelsea but some other sources quoting other clubs?
Leicester City have signed Nampalys Mendy from Ligue 1 club Nice on a 4 year deal.
Strengthening for UCL. Insisting Mendy is not a replacement for Kante
Ahmed Musa is set for a medical at Leicester City next week. Will cost around �16m.
Bro, u joking or serious? Didn't see this coming if true.
BTW, what's the latest on Kante? Seems so many teams after him. Reading it's Chelsea but some other sources quoting other clubs?
Everton really want him. But whether the transfer is really that close, I am not sure.
Kante only heard back then PSG eyeing him but seems no longer the case. Let's see if any of the rumoured interested clubs make any move then.
From mirror online:
Something in life are certain: Death, Tax and Ah Seng not signing a decent strker.
Gunner fans agreed and took it to social media:
Chelsea - Batschuayi
Man Utd - Ibrahimovic
Liverpool - Mane
ManCity - Nolito
Arsenal - Japaneese guy
8:08 PM - 1 Jul 2016
Hehe finally I know who you are referring to
OFFICIAL: Arsenal have agreed a deal with Sanfrecce Hiroshima for the signing of Takuma Asano.
The manager finally realised the league he came from have many gems !! :)Hehe finally I know who you are referring to
OFFICIAL: Arsenal have agreed a deal with Sanfrecce Hiroshima for the signing of Takuma Asano.
Apparently Klopp has not given up and his rejection of contract extension might have soften BMG's stance
Dahoud is still ON!!
Apparently Klopp has not given up and his rejection of contract extension might have soften BMG's stance
Hope Mahmoud Dahoud signs for Pool. Really good catch if he agree to join.
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Liverpool please do so, chop chop.
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how come no teams looking at�Wales striker�Robson-Kanu?
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he's not bad, and definitely afforable�considering he's a free agent
there is only one king and he is not a hooligan or scum.
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Can be a racist dumb scum then... lol
So EPL awaits the arrival of Antonio Conte whose reputation has been enhanced at the Euros.
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His preferred 3-5-2 formation is interesting. Years back Glenn Hoddle introduced this to the English League and the English couldn't except this as they were too ingrained into a back 4. Hoddle was too revolutionary for his own good though he proved himself to be a good coach and went on to manage the National team.
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Provided you get the right personnel, there are merits in this system. you get a front 2 which keeps the opposing defenders busy and most strikers prefer working with a partner anyway. You still get 5 in MF so won't be overrun and your back 3 will likely be busy with only the opposing 1 striker anyway so seems a good system.
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Surprisingly, Wales uses this system as well and what was even more interesting, the Germans changed to this system for the match vs Italy to match like for like! Will it work in EPL? I don't know but I await to see what Conte does at Chelsea cos I'm not sure if Terry and Cahill are the types of back 3 CBs Conte would require. Anyway, always nice to see different ideas being tried out.
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If you guys got any comments, pls feel free to contribute.
Can be a racist dumb scum then... lol
You might want to reflect on how SAF supported Cantona after that incident.
KD merely given support to his player whom we all know of the "love" he received from the English media.
Don't think I want to go into that incident again but I fully understand why KD did it. Right or wrong, up to individual. He is definitely not racist nor dumb.
So EPL awaits the arrival of Antonio Conte whose reputation has been enhanced at the Euros.
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His preferred 3-5-2 formation is interesting. Years back Glenn Hoddle introduced this to the English League and the English couldn't except this as they were too ingrained into a back 4. Hoddle was too revolutionary for his own good though he proved himself to be a good coach and went on to manage the National team.
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Provided you get the right personnel, there are merits in this system. you get a front 2 which keeps the opposing defenders busy and most strikers prefer working with a partner anyway. You still get 5 in MF so won't be overrun and your back 3 will likely be busy with only the opposing 1 striker anyway so seems a good system.
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Surprisingly, Wales uses this system as well and what was even more interesting, the Germans changed to this system for the match vs Italy to match like for like! Will it work in EPL? I don't know but I await to see what Conte does at Chelsea cos I'm not sure if Terry and Cahill are the types of back 3 CBs Conte would require. Anyway, always nice to see different ideas being tried out.
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If you guys got any comments, pls feel free to contribute.
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Roy Evans also used 3-5-2 formation in the mid 90s
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The success of this formation is one of the 3 centre backs
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wingbacks must track back to defend.
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Roy Evans also used 3-5-2 formation in the mid 90s
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wingbacks must track back to defend.
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For Italy, Bonucci is very comfortable on the ball and is a good passer as well but I don't think any of the Wales back 3 is comfortable on the ball though. WIngbacks always need to work their socks off in most modern formations but agreed maybe more so in a 3-5-2 formation.
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The English are resistant to change so it will take a brave coach to get a club side to adopt this formation which is not new but not used universally.
So EPL awaits the arrival of Antonio Conte whose reputation has been enhanced at the Euros.
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His preferred 3-5-2 formation is interesting. Years back Glenn Hoddle introduced this to the English League and the English couldn't except this as they were too ingrained into a back 4. Hoddle was too revolutionary for his own good though he proved himself to be a good coach and went on to manage the National team.
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Provided you get the right personnel, there are merits in this system. you get a front 2 which keeps the opposing defenders busy and most strikers prefer working with a partner anyway. You still get 5 in MF so won't be overrun and your back 3 will likely be busy with only the opposing 1 striker anyway so seems a good system.
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Surprisingly, Wales uses this system as well and what was even more interesting, the Germans changed to this system for the match vs Italy to match like for like! Will it work in EPL? I don't know but I await to see what Conte does at Chelsea cos I'm not sure if Terry and Cahill are the types of back 3 CBs Conte would require. Anyway, always nice to see different ideas being tried out.
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My view on why this system is no longer popular is due to the lost art of sweeper. In the most ideal set up, the back 3 should comprise a sweeper and 2 stoppers. The sweeper not just the last man but also expected to bring the ball forward in an offensive transition from the back. Else, the only way is to go long or utilise the wing backs. Also, with 3 at the back, it will always be tough to break down the opponents unless you can transit very fast in counters.So EPL awaits the arrival of Antonio Conte whose reputation has been enhanced at the Euros.
His preferred 3-5-2 formation is interesting. Years back Glenn Hoddle introduced this to the English League and the English couldn't except this as they were too ingrained into a back 4. Hoddle was too revolutionary for his own good though he proved himself to be a good coach and went on to manage the National team.
Provided you get the right personnel, there are merits in this system. you get a front 2 which keeps the opposing defenders busy and most strikers prefer working with a partner anyway. You still get 5 in MF so won't be overrun and your back 3 will likely be busy with only the opposing 1 striker anyway so seems a good system.
Surprisingly, Wales uses this system as well and what was even more interesting, the Germans changed to this system for the match vs Italy to match like for like! Will it work in EPL? I don't know but I await to see what Conte does at Chelsea cos I'm not sure if Terry and Cahill are the types of back 3 CBs Conte would require. Anyway, always nice to see different ideas being tried out.
If you guys got any comments, pls feel free to contribute.
3 v 1 no doubt will offer defensive solidarity but most opponents will try to exploit with pace on the wings or using of false 9. The CBs are usually not fast and will hate being taken on 1 v 1 with a winger when being dragged wide. Playing a false 9 against such a system is better as you leave the 3 CBs virtually no one to mark
Conte rumoured to wanting Bonucci. If he wants to implement a 3-CB system, he probably will need to have the central one at least who knows how to operate in it. To get a defensive central pair working together as a unit is already tough. So imagine you are trying to have 3 working together.
Like I always said, there is no perfect formation or system. What you need to assess is how suited are your players and how easy your opponents can exploit the weakness in that system.
Anyway, there are slight difference in how Germany setup to counter Italy. Same back 3 but they use a 3-4-2-1 with Ozil as a False 9 with Muller and Gomez in support. Italy using 3-5-2
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For Italy, Bonucci is very comfortable on the ball and is a good passer as well but I don't think any of the Wales back 3 is comfortable on the ball though. WIngbacks always need to work their socks off in most modern formations but agreed maybe more so in a 3-5-2 formation.
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The English are resistant to change so it will take a brave coach to get a club side to adopt this formation which is not new but not used universally.
This 3-5-2 fromation is nothing new. They key to success of this fomation is whether the back 3 are reliable and able to react against fast breaks from the opposite side.
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I remember Rafa Benitez and later BR use this system on-off with mixed results at Anfield. The most memorable event of this 3-5-2 thingy was that under BR where Stevie G slip and resulted in the painful loss against Chelsea in April 2014.
This system will be great if used intelligently but sometimes it can be a exploitable weakness.
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Van Gaal also used this playing system with Netherlands during the 2014 world cup in Brazil with reasonable success.
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I can foresee that Chelsea under Conte will be using this sytem with great regularity.
This 3-5-2 fromation is nothing new. They key to success of this fomation is whether the back 3 are reliable and able to react against fast breaks from the opposite side.
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I remember Rafa Benitez and later BR use this system on-off with mixed results at Anfield. The most memorable event of this 3-5-2 thingy was that under BR where Stevie G slip and resulted in the painful loss against Chelsea in April 2014.
This system will be great if used intelligently but sometimes it can be a exploitable weakness.
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Van Gaal also used this playing system with Netherlands during the 2014 world cup in Brazil with reasonable success.
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I can foresee that Chelsea under Conte will be using this sytem with great regularity.
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without tweaking and changeing player much.
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3.5.2 is more attack mode then 5.3.2
I remember Rafa Benitez and later BR use this system on-off with mixed results at Anfield. The most memorable event of this 3-5-2 thingy was that under BR where Stevie G slip and resulted in the painful loss against Chelsea in April 2014.
I think that game was Gerrard playing as the registra. It was a flat back 4 iirc. Skrtel and Sakho the two CBs
Juan Mata has been spotted on Merseyside ahead of finalising �30M move to Everton from Man Utd
Great signing !!
Was excited from the earlier part of the sentence....but...
Why Everton? Why not Liverpool??!!
My view on why this system is no longer popular is due to the lost art of sweeper. In the most ideal set up, the back 3 should comprise a sweeper and 2 stoppers. The sweeper not just the last man but also expected to bring the ball forward in an offensive transition from the back. Else, the only way is to go long or utilise the wing backs. Also, with 3 at the back, it will always be tough to break down the opponents unless you can transit very fast in counters.
3 v 1 no doubt will offer defensive solidarity but most opponents will try to exploit with pace on the wings or using of false 9. The CBs are usually not fast and will hate being taken on 1 v 1 with a winger when being dragged wide. Playing a false 9 against such a system is better as you leave the 3 CBs virtually no one to markThe central CB will have to be experience enough to make the call on when to track the F9 and when to just let him roam.
Conte rumoured to wanting Bonucci. If he wants to implement a 3-CB system, he probably will need to have the central one at least who knows how to operate in it. To get a defensive central pair working together as a unit is already tough. So imagine you are trying to have 3 working together.
Like I always said, there is no perfect formation or system. What you need to assess is how suited are your players and how easy your opponents can exploit the weakness in that system.
Anyway, there are slight difference in how Germany setup to counter Italy. Same back 3 but they use a 3-4-2-1 with Ozil as a False 9 with Muller and Gomez in support. Italy using 3-5-2
Quite detailed info.
Yes. 352 is not new in BPL. Liverpool used it to very good effect under Bendan Rodgers. However, at that time they had Suarez, healthy Sturridge and good attitude Sterling in Attack.
So opponents were so busy defending, that they couldn't attack.
Also, the wingbacks were wonderful!
Hope Conte can bring some players who are effective in these areas.
Then we'll really have a scary looking team!
Go Conte! Go Chelsea!
Was excited from the earlier part of the sentence....but...
Why Everton? Why not Liverpool??!!
Man U player coming directly to Liverpool? Unlikely.
Also don't think he suits Klopp's style.
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After five months of reading his name and seeing his face and thinking about his medals, the day has finally arrived when Manchester City fans can reach out and touch Pep Guardiola. The stubbly Spanish genius will be officially unveiled by the club today, and if the Sunday Mirror is to be believed he is planning on making quite the entrance.
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Having already sanctioning the relatively low-key signings of Nolito and Ilkay Gundogan, the tabloid reports that Pep is poised to ramp things up in a rather big way by spending a combined total of �158m on Luis Suarez and Toni Kroos.
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Barcelona forward Suarez is apparently �open to the �85m move� on the condition that he can �persuade his wife and family to leave Spain�. For Manchester. Could be a tough sell. He�d probably also prefer it if City were anywhere near as good at football as Barcelona are.
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Kroos, meanwhile, has another four years left to run on his Real Madrid contract and has just won the Champions League and reached the Euro 2016 semi-finals, so he�s probably quite happy for things to stay exactly as they are. But City are apparently going to offer Real his �63m release clause anyway, just to see what happens.
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Not to be outdone, Manchester United are prepared to complete the worst piece of business in football history by spending a world record fee of �100m on Paul Pogba, four years after they let him go for nothing.
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The Mail on Sunday says the Red Devils are willing to pay Pog a �250,000 a week wage that would give him the means to have everything he�s ever wanted in life, apart from Champions League football.
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There is also a big-money battle heating up on Merseyside, where Liverpool have reportedly joined Everton in the race to sign Zenit St Petersburg midfielder Axel Witsel, reports the Mirror.
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The Toffees� hopes of having a free run at the �30-rated Belgian have apparently been scuppered by Paris Saint-Germain�s �22m signing of Sevilla�s Gregorz Krychowiak, who was the Reds� number one midfield target (Marca).
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There is a similar tussle going on in north London, with the Sun reporting that Tottenham are attempting to �thrash out� a �38m deal for Inter striker Mauro Icardi, who is also wanted by Arsenal.
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The bad news for Spurs fans is that this bid could be almost entirely funded by the sale of goalkeeper Hugo Lloris, who the Sunday Mirror says is a �35m target for Real Madrid and he �could well be tempted� to go.�
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The Sun on Sunday adds that others who could leave White Hart Lane include Ryan Mason, who is linked with a �10m move to Hull, and Nacer Chadli, for whom Borussia Dortmund are said to be �preparing a �12m swoop�.
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Elsewhere, Middlesbrough a set to seal the �11.5m transfer of Atalanta�s Dutch midfielder Marten de Roon (Gazette), Chelsea have �won the race� to sign �30m Napoli defender Kalidou Koulibaly (Mirror) and Robin van Persie has been put up for sale by Fenerbahce and offered to Crystal Palace and West Ham (Sun). Which might sound fun until you see what he earns.
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Also, Witsel is not on Pool's wanted list as far as I know.
Also, Witsel is not on Pool's wanted list as far as I know.
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Luis Suarez is worth �85m� ............
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Torres worth 50m many many year back.. �
With all the inflation, bigger transfer fee and his goal rate, 85m is way way too cheap liao lo
Was excited from the earlier part of the sentence....but...
Why Everton? Why not Liverpool??!!
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After the initial bid was rejected, Pool have now matched Napoli's bid of �14m but still get rejected.
Few speculations:
1) Udinese looking at higher upfront payment;
2) Napoli offered a player, Zuniga as part of the deal. He will be loan to Watford once sign by Undinese;
3) Napoli unhappy about Klopp's public courting of the player and Zielinski public display of disrespect by wearing the Liverpool jersey.
This one is turning into a bigger soap opera than Gotze's
4th signing for Jose
Udinese is making it difficult for Klopp to get Zielinski.
After the initial bid was rejected, Pool have now matched Napoli's bid of �14m but still get rejected.
Few speculations:
1) Udinese looking at higher upfront payment;
2) Napoli offered a player, Zuniga as part of the deal. He will be loan to Watford once sign by Undinese;
3) Napoli unhappy about Klopp's public courting of the player and Zielinski public display of disrespect by wearing the Liverpool jersey.
This one is turning into a bigger soap opera than Gotze's
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Zielinski should just say he loves Udinese
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and then sign for Liverpool.
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I wonder is the script prepared for him regardless of which club he joins. Playing for Man City? Ok Pep.
Pachuca forward Hirving Lozano will join Manchester United after the Olympics. (MEN)
4th signing for Jose
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This is a good buy..
Hopefully he wont turn out to be another Depay
If there's a transfer, i think Liverpool might get some of this.Luis Suarez is worth £85m ............
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This is a good buy..
Hopefully he wont turn out to be another Depay
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Me too.
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I hope he is more like an
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Wondering why the media reports that 29 years old Argentinian Gabriel Mercado is being targetted by Liverpool's Klopp?
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Is he that good as a CB or RB?
That's good if true. End the drama
Wondering why the media reports that 29 years old Argentinian Gabriel Mercado is being targetted by Liverpool's Klopp?
Is he that good as a CB or RB?
Not sure whether there is a truth in this. Don't think he can get a work permit though.
Never heard of the player nor the club.
Oleksandr Zinchenko joins Manchester City from FC Ufa
Never heard of the player nor the club.
Yah me too, never heard of Manchester city before
The timing is strange even if true
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Hopefully this one can resolve fast.
According to Guardian, base bid only �27m. Addons rising to �31.5m
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Crystal Palace to raise bid for Liverpool�s Christian Benteke to record �31.5m.
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Crystal Palace to raise bid for Liverpool�s Christian Benteke to record �31.5m.
https://www.theguard...nteke-liverpool
�60m spent on a Belgium sub over 2 summers.
Pool spent �1m to relegate Villa.
Pep: "I have to know my players. Hug them - kick their a***! One of my dreams was to play here as a footballer. Now my dream has come true."
I wonder is the script prepared for him regardless of which club he joins. Playing for Man City? Ok Pep.
He mixed up the teams in the city, maybe?
�60m spent on a Belgium sub over 2 summers.
Pool spent �1m to relegate Villa.
Ha ha... that's the price to pay for beating pool at anfield twice in recent years...
Didn't realise he might have issue with WP. Also confirmed Grujic will wear No.16
Crystal Palace to raise bid for Liverpool�s Christian Benteke to record �31.5m.
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Can see him scoring a hattrick against us next season when we lose 3-1 to PalaceHopefully to accept and Let's Move On :)
Can see him scoring a hattrick against us next season when we lose 3-1 to Palace
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Can see him scoring a hattrick against us next season when we lose 3-1 to Palace
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Can see him scoring a hattrick against us next season when we lose 3-1 to Palace
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Hopefully it's only happening in the reserve team.
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But if palace wants Ben, can propose special deal, like 20 m plus that Bolasie, who always made life difficult for us? That guy like got 4 lungs, always running opp ragged whenever i see him play. Should be good for Klopp's game... just that his skills so-so only...
This season will be a exciting one.
I forsee quite a number of upset results as teams are quite balance throughout in spending and having some superstars even in the lesser known clubs.
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Just hope Klopp can do magic and propel Pool back in top flight soccer and win that EPL in this few yrs
So rich already still want to take advantage of State!!
Damn this Barca, Real and other Spanish teams........
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BRUSSELS: The EU on Monday (Jul 4) ordered seven Spanish football clubs including Barcelona and Real Madrid to pay back millions of euros (dollars) in illegal state aid.
The European Commission said Spanish government support, including tax breaks and overpriced land transfers, gave the clubs an "unfair advantage" over others.
The other clubs were Valencia, Athletic Bilbao in the Spanish top flight and Atletico Osasuna, Elche and Hercules in the second division.
The decision followed a two-and-a-half year investigation.
"Using taxpayers' money to finance professional football clubs can create unfair competition," EU Competition Commissioner Margrethe Vestager said in a statement.
"Professional football is a commercial activity with significant money involved and public money must comply with fair competition rules. The subsidies we investigated in these cases did not."
Barcelona vowed to fight the ruling on Monday, saying they had broken no laws.
"We have applied Spanish legal norms exhaustively. In this way Barcelona has nothing to answer for," club spokesperson Josep Vives told a press conference.
"The club will defend itself and its fans against this abusive interpretation and application of the law."
Under European Union anti-trust rules, governments are not allowed to provide state aid to commercial enterprises if it distorts market competition.
The EU ordered Spain to recover unpaid tax of up to �5 million (US$7 million) from each of Barcelona, Real, Athletic Bilbao and Atletico Osasuna.
The exact sums would be determined by Spanish authorities, it said.
It said the four clubs were treated as non-profit organisations, which pay a lower tax rate than other professional clubs registered as limited liability companies.
Real Madrid was meanwhile ordered to repay �18.4 million after the Commission found that the City of Madrid overvalued a land transfer from the club to the city by that amount.
Meanwhile, the Commission said that Valencia, Hercules and Elche were given access to overly favourable loan terms when they were in financial difficulties.
Valencia has to repay �20.4 million, Hercules �6.1 million and Elche �3.7 million.
Separately, the European Commission cleared support given to five Netherlands clubs - FC Den Bosch, MVV Maastricht, NEC Nijmegen, Willem II Tilburg, and PSV Eindhoven - saying it did not involve illegal state aid.
- AFP/de
Yah me too, never heard of Manchester city before
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Crystal Palace to raise bid for Liverpool�s Christian Benteke to record �31.5m.
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With Neymar staying put. This will be the biggest transfer of this window if it happens.
Jose Mourinho launches charm offensive as Manchester United aim to beat Real Madrid to France and Juventus star Paul Pogba
With Neymar staying put. This will be the biggest transfer of this window if it happens.
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Think RM will clinch it if both go for it (With the same amount of $$)
Agree on that. It will be interesting to see what happen if Man Utd bid but RM don't. Will Pogba move or stay at JuventusThink RM will clinch it if both go for it (With the same amount of $$)
JM to be unveiled as Man United Mgr this morning at OT.
This article sums up what he brings to United, pros and cons.
He is the type of Mgr that u will either love or hate, no in between.
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Jose Mourinho unveiling: Get set for the man who can banish the ghosts of Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United
Portuguese will bring drama, waste, gambles - and trophies to Old Trafford
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It was what Sir Alex Ferguson didn�t say about Jose Mourinho in his autobiography which was most significant.�
�Not a word on why he hadn�t encouraged Manchester United to make him his successor in 2014; just references which indicated he always felt there was more to Mourinho�s success at Stamford Bridge than man-management. �He is a greater leader and spectacular manager but it did not hurt that he spent �100m during his first season at Chelsea,� Ferguson wrote. Mourinho�s way certainly doesn�t equate with his own.
The events of the past four days, with United committing �200,000-a-week to 34-year-old Zlatan Ibrahimovich, then allowing Ryan Giggs to walk away, represent what Ferguson would always have feared Mourinho might bring.�
The current pursuit of Juventus� Paul Pogba, in what may prove to be an �80m transfer, would also be anathema to the former manager, and embarrassing, since it was his distaste for the boy�s demands for money which persuaded him to let him leave for nothing, only four years ago.
But for all that, the man who will step through a side door shortly before 11am in Old Trafford�s Europa Suite on Tuesday � the third new manager to be presented in that room in as many years � has the capacity to extinguish the ghost of Ferguson. That alone makes his arrival deeply necessary. As Ferguson�s successors have fallen by the wayside, the collective memory of his achievements has grown to such a level that it haunts the club. A nuclear option is required to allow United to leave the past behind.
Mourinho is not good news for the career prospects of United�s academy players. The potential of a chance discovery � which Marcus Rashford and Tim Fosu Mensah were last season � immediately recedes. But so will the shadow of Ferguson on the wall. ��
Expect Ferguson to feature today, as he has generally tended to do on these introductory occasions in the Europa Suite � a room which really needs to be renamed or else not used for managerial unveilings at all. David Moyes� first mention of Ferguson came 16 words into his own first press conference. It was 18 minutes before Louis van Gaal referenced �Sir Alec� in his. With his keen ear for choreography, Mourinho will lean closer towards the Moyes method.
Wayne Rooney has been central to the discussion on the two previous such occasions. It was two summers ago that Mourinho attempted to sign him from United after returning as Chelsea manager. He has already made the right noises � last week declaring Rooney to be England�s best �for over a decade�.�But the balance of dependency between player and club has shifted since Moyes�fended off Mourinho and Rooney signed a new contract which felt like a new signing for United in February 2014. Still new to the midfield goal Van Gaal eventually found for him, his future is more uncertain now.
The challenge for Rooney will be greater if Pogba does arrive, with the view from France on Monday being that the appeal of playing for Mourinho makes that a growing prospect. United�s past two years have been far more about demonstrating they are still a world power as actually becoming one and the statement of intent Pogba would represent heightens the appeal of securing him.�
The prospect of Ibrahimovich matching the 38 goals he brought in 51 PSG appearances last season�is more remote amid the far greater competition of the Premier League. Not in the remotest circumstance would Ferguson have sanctioned breaking the club�s transfer record for a 34-yer-old. He only paid out heavy to deprive other clubs of players they wanted to keep.�
This is what Mourinho brings though: spending, churn, gambles, waste, suffering for those who fail to deliver quickly. And trophies. And box office stories. It helps that he will find far fewer impediments to shaping United�s spending to his will than at Chelsea or Real Madrid, with no technical director standing in his way.�
Not since his four years as a Barcelona�s assistant manager, in the last century, has Mourinho lasted more than 72 months in one place and no one will be betting the house on this being anything other than a whirlwind ripping through Old Trafford. By 2020, United will probably be starting again, though the achievements of Ferguson will probably have been laid to rest. �For me the challenge is always first and not fourth,� van Gaal said at his introductory press conference, which was ironic in retrospect. For Mourinho, fourth does not even enter the conversation.
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JM to be unveiled as Man United Mgr this morning at OT.
This article sums up what he brings to United, pros and cons.
He is the type of Mgr that u will either love or hate, no in between.
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At least 3rd in standing. Anything below is a poor result for him after spending�so much ..
Palace is on a shopping spree
Apparently he is going Man UtdThis is interesting. PSG's Blaise Matuidi reportedly authorised by France NT to fly to England earlier today for transfer talks.
The timing is strange even if true
Agree on that. It will be interesting to see what happen if Man Utd bid but RM don't. Will Pogba move or stay at Juventus
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Jose Mourinho launches charm offensive as Manchester United aim to beat Real Madrid to France and Juventus star Paul Pogba
With Neymar staying put. This will be the biggest transfer of this window if it happens.
If Pogba indeed do join Man U, it would be the biggest irony in footballing history. It goes one full circle.
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A comedy of human error in evaluation of players with potential �undergoing development who may bloom later than expected.
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After all Man U is a rich club with lots of $$$ to burn.
Another article on 3-5-2 but the author feels it will not catch on at club level:
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https://www.theguard...jonathan-Wilson
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Valencia have signed Portuguese international Nani on a three- year deal.
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Kante close to a move to Real Madrid.
Man City is close to complete the signing of Leroy San� for �40m
RVP is linked with the EPL champion
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5 years late?
wah, the special one just SUANED fat looney big time sia�
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"Yes, his passing is amazing but mine is also amazing without pressure"
Benteke -> Palace �27m (�31.5m)
Skrtel -> Fenerbahce �5.5m
Canos -> Norwich �2.5m
Alberto -> Sevilla �5m
�40m to recoup.
wah, the special one just SUANED fat looney big time sia
"Yes, his passing is amazing but mine is also amazing without pressure"
Actually if you read his whole msg it was more on promoting Rooney to be a no. 8 or no. 10 ie support striker rather than having him in MF. It will be Zlatan n Rooney upfront with Rashford backing up. That said, I don't remember JM playing with 2 upfront during his second Chelsea stint??
Ha ha... that's the price to pay for beating pool at anfield twice in recent years...
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To many MU fans, it's (sorry to steal from Visa) priceless as the defeats keeps LFC at sweet young 18.
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Klopp's axe is wielding. Possible outgoing with bids on table.
Benteke -> Palace �27m (�31.5m)
Skrtel -> Fenerbahce �5.5m
Canos -> Norwich �2.5m
Alberto -> Sevilla �5m
�40m to recoup.
Can use to buy which players?
Reports in Italy said that Juventus has rejected a �45m bid for Bonucci from Man City
Looks like Conte facing competition for Bonucci.
Reports in Italy said that Juventus has rejected a �45m bid for Bonucci from Man City
Wha so ex ah? Think he's 29yrs old already n for a defender it's expensive but he's a good one!
Real defender, comfortable on the ball n good passer as well. Amazing how the Italians always produce this kind of defenders over the years
http://sportwitness....-come-thursday/
How true will depend on the Croatia paper reliability liao.
He is mentioned earlier in the window, resurfaced now.
Another name that comes up again is Neves, the Porto's young captain
More on Ante Coric bid
http://sportwitness....-come-thursday/
How true will depend on the Croatia paper reliability liao.
He is mentioned earlier in the window, resurfaced now.
Another name that comes up again is Neves, the Porto's young captain
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so many midfielders, does that mean Hendo really on way out?
so many midfielders, does that mean Hendo really on way out?
I won't be surprise bro.
Anyway, Daily Mail caught up with the news liao.
Strangely, Napoli interested too. Lol
http://www.dailymail...ion-Napoli.html
so many midfielders, does that mean Hendo really on way out?
Ante Coric is a 19 year old "kid" lah.
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Need 1~2 years of apprenticeship in Pool before his potential is fully realised. Another 'Deli Alli" type.
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Succession planning I suppose.
Ante Coric is a 19 year old "kid" lah.
Need 1~2 years of apprenticeship in Pool before his potential is fully realised. Another 'Deli Alli" type.
Succession planning I suppose.
Coric will not threaten Hendo's place. But Grujic, Neves or Dahoud will.
Agree on succession planning bit. Might not be holding on to the little magician much longer
Edited by Osprey23, 06 July 2016 - 11:44 PM.
What can be better?
And insert in a $23m sacking clause if he were to be sacked before the end of his contract ? :)Wake up to news that FSG offering Klopp a long term deal.
What can be better?
they never insert those buy back clause or first�option�like the Spanish clubs... Barca and Real Madrid always do this
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or is it the English league doesn't allow this?
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If Pogba indeed do join Man U, it would be the biggest irony in footballing history. It goes one full circle.
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A comedy of human error in evaluation of players with potential �undergoing development who may bloom later than expected.
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After all Man U is a rich club with lots of $$$ to burn.
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they never insert those buy back clause or first�option�like the Spanish clubs... Barca and Real Madrid always do this
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or is it the English league doesn't allow this?
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Or maybe the British are not so smart and far sighted.
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SAF made 2 grave mistakes which he never admitted. One is Pogba and the other is to choose Moyes over JM when he retired.
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they never insert those buy back clause or first�option�like the Spanish clubs... Barca and Real Madrid always do this
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or is it the English league doesn't allow this?
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Pogba ran down his contract. Nothing they could do�
Pogba ran down his contract. Nothing they could do�
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oh I see...
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then there should be no reason for him to go back to Man Utd
they never insert those buy back clause or first�option�like the Spanish clubs... Barca and Real Madrid always do this
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or is it the English league doesn't allow this?
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Agreed, I never understood this as well cos the continental European clubs almost always have buy out clauses which can be arbitrary but nvr the EPL teams. Surely they can't be that stupid and there should be a logical explanation to this.
Wake up to news that FSG offering Klopp a long term deal.
What can be better?
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Wah liao! My eyes are playing tricks on me. At first, I read PSG are offering Kloop a long term deal. Then I started to get angry.
Second time read, it is actually FSG .. phew! I think must start to wear spectacles like Kloop. OK, back to normal ..
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MU went through a lot of trouble to sign Pogba as a 16 yo with threatened court cases and FIFA probe before transfer agreement could be reached
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But after securing his service, despite SAF's statement that Pogba would be in the senior squad if we want to hold Pogba back in 2011, he was mainly used in the reserve team despite being captain and outstanding player in French youth team. Pogba was featured in senior team only in� 2 FA cup games, one as sub, one sub appearance for UEFA cup game and 2 sub in premier league game in Jan and March 2012. In July, SAF announced that Pogba would leave after not signing new contract.
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He made his debut for Juve in Sep 2012 and hasn't looked back since.
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Any footballer worth his salt would not extend his contract, given this kind of treatment.
MU went through a lot of trouble to sign Pogba as a 16 yo with threatened court cases and FIFA probe before transfer agreement could be reached
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But after securing his service, despite SAF's statement that Pogba would be in the senior squad if we want to hold Pogba back in 2011, he was mainly used in the reserve team despite being captain and outstanding player in French youth team. Pogba was featured in senior team only in� 2 FA cup games, one as sub, one sub appearance for UEFA cup game and 2 sub in premier league game in Jan and March 2012. In July, SAF announced that Pogba would leave after not signing new contract.
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He made his debut for Juve in Sep 2012 and hasn't looked back since.
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Any footballer worth his salt would not extend his contract, given this kind of treatment.
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From what I read and if not mistaken, the straw that broke the camel's back (in this case Pogba's) was Fergie calling back Scholes from retirement instead of relying on the players available then including Pogba.
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I don't think there is a right or wrong. Pogba had confidence in his abilities and don't want to waste more years waiting for his chance and decided to ply his trade elsewhere. A lot of young players do this esp at the bigger clubs where chances are few and far between. A lot of them don't make it but of course some do and in the case of Pogba, he not only made it but made it big.
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Fergie like many Mgrs at big teams are under pressure to deliver success and naturally trusts players who he is familiar with. Modern football is such that results�are everything n patience is non existent. He made a judgement call on Pogba which has proven wrong. To be fair, he gets more right than wrong and he also allows youth more so than say Mourinho.
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Life has to move on and if United feels Pogba can add value to the current team which I also agree then biting the bullet�by paying a World record transfer fee then so be it. Whether Pogba wants to come back is his call. Chelsea did the same with Matic albeit not such a high price and there will be other similar cases�down the road for sure.
From what I read and if not mistaken, the straw that broke the camel's back (in this case Pogba's) was Fergie calling back Scholes from retirement instead of relying on the players available then including Pogba.
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I don't think there is a right or wrong. Pogba had confidence in his abilities and don't want to waste more years waiting for his chance and decided to ply his trade elsewhere. A lot of young players do this esp at the bigger clubs where chances are few and far between. A lot of them don't make it but of course some do and in the case of Pogba, he not only made it but made it big.
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Fergie like many Mgrs at big teams are under pressure to deliver success and naturally trusts players who he is familiar with. Modern football is such that results�are everything n patience is non existent. He made a judgement call on Pogba which has proven wrong. To be fair, he gets more right than wrong and he also allows youth more so than say Mourinho.
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Life has to move on and if United feels Pogba can add value to the current team which I also agree then biting the bullet�by paying a World record transfer fee then so be it. Whether Pogba wants to come back is his call. Chelsea did the same with Matic albeit not such a high price and there will be other similar cases�down the road for sure.
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From what my understand is, he finally realize he is not required/trusted in Manu is during a match where all the senior and proven MF are injured, a def was call upon to fill up that position instead of Pogba who is fully fit for that match..
From what my understand is, he finally realize he is not required/trusted in Manu is during a match where all the senior and proven MF are injured, a def was call upon to fill up that position instead of Pogba who is fully fit for that match..
That's the situation I'm talking about but I thought Fergie called back Scholes out of retirement?
Anyway, details aside; Pogba felt enough was enough and decided to move on and fair play to him for proving he is good enough. Whilst he's a good player, 100mil seems extravagant to say the least!
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�Whilst he's a good player, 100mil seems extravagant to say the least!
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The premiership teams in general, MU and other top teams in particular, are flushed with obscene amount of cash with the new TV deals.
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Even during the "hard-time" when MU was saddled with loan and high interest, each Glazer member reportedly received 10 mil in director fee. So better pay them out in transfer than in director fees.
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That's the situation I'm talking about but I thought Fergie called back Scholes out of retirement?
Anyway, details aside; Pogba felt enough was enough and decided to move on and fair play to him for proving he is good enough. Whilst he's a good player, 100mil seems extravagant to say the least!
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Nvm lah. Man Utd got too much money mah.
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At least that's all i keep reading here.
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Is it a good thing that its pretty much the only thing that we regularly get railed at for here?
But it is the fact leh. Man U really is very very rich.Nvm lah. Man Utd got too much money mah.
At least that's all i keep reading here.
Is it a good thing that its pretty much the only thing that we regularly get railed at for here?
So far I feel Mkhitaryan will have the biggest impact. Pogba is definitely not worth �100m imo. But if JM feels he is, who am I to argue otherwise?
Edited by Osprey23, 07 July 2016 - 05:55 PM.
I might start supporting England if this happens :)
Football transfer $$$$ has really gone astronomical
100million pounds is for strikers that put balls into the net
When midfielders hit 100m pounds, then strikers will be worth 200 m
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Not sure if $$ has spoilt football or
Football has spoilt $$$
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Agents laugh all the way to the Banks
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That's the situation I'm talking about but I thought Fergie called back Scholes out of retirement?
Anyway, details aside; Pogba felt enough was enough and decided to move on and fair play to him for proving he is good enough. Whilst he's a good player, 100mil seems extravagant to say the least!
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But it is the fact leh. Man U really is very very rich.
So far I feel Mkhitaryan will have the biggest impact. Pogba is definitely not worth �100m imo. But if JM feels he is, who am I to argue otherwise?
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Act like rich nia...
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And, its the broken record nature of the comments i am, er commenting about.
[David Anderson, Daily Mirror]
Hopefully there will be a buy back clause too.
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Joran Ibe to Bournemouth for 15mil pounds?
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Good price for Pool�I feel though he obviously has potential.
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http://www.mirror.co...nemouth-8368474
Joran Ibe to Bournemouth for 15mil pounds?
Good price for Pool I feel though he obviously has potential.
http://www.mirror.co...nemouth-8368474
I believe I shared before. Klopp is not convince of Ibe. �15m is a crazy amount, no way we will reject.
With is bro sold, let's see how it impact Sturridge.
Real Madrid also cannot fight.
Man U win!
But what if Pogba only wants RM?
Then he stays on Juventus and wait.
i can see him move to Man Utd though. Record fee that Juventus would gladly accept and he will be offered a more than decent salary. Why not?
More like a headless chicken that runs to by line and don't know how to progress from there.
On a side note, ibe is promising but his progress seem stagnant.
More like a headless chicken that runs to by line and don't know how to progress from there.
Klopp is fair. Given him a season to carry out what he wants but Ibe failed to deliver. Klopp wants his winger to be more direct, take on defender at pace. At the end of season, Ojo moved ahead of him. With Mane signed, he would fall even further back. �15m is really an offer we can't afford to reject imo.
Klopp is fair. Given him a season to carry out what he wants but Ibe failed to deliver. Klopp wants his winger to be more direct, take on defender at pace. At the end of season, Ojo moved ahead of him. With Mane signed, he would fall even further back. �15m is really an offer we can't afford to reject imo.
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I'm with you that Ibe didn't manage to prove himself, when given about 1-2 seasons already.
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But I'm not convinced about Ojo at all. He seems equally lost, if not more so.
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On the fee for Ibe... his buddy earned us 50 (before the sell-on deduction)... They went smoking together, should at least earn us half that amount mah...�
Before agreeing with Bournemouth, should ask Pep whether he wants�
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ok ok. should accept. add sell-on and buy-back clause...
I'm with you that Ibe didn't manage to prove himself, when given about 1-2 seasons already.
But I'm not convinced about Ojo at all. He seems equally lost, if not more so.
On the fee for Ibe... his buddy earned us 50 (before the sell-on deduction)... They went smoking together, should at least earn us half that amount mah...
Before agreeing with Bournemouth, should ask Pep whether he wants
ok ok. should accept. add sell-on and buy-back clause...
Being lost is ok. They are still very young and learning the game. Young players usually struggle with consistency and decision making in final third. All these can improve.
However, why Ojo moves ahead is because he carried out Klopp's instructions.
I think it is pure mathematic crazy to spent this type of money on Pogba, if he come to UNITED, it met be pure love and adrenalin rush to play for Devils, no something of the past incident on how he left or left his balls standing,Pogba is another attacking midfielder to me whereby his skills may be highly anticipated or heading ability, I do not find him worthy of any sort, maybe his hairstyle stands out more than his feet.
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Neven Subotic in negotiations with Middlesbrough? He would cost around � 9 m and looking to leave the Dortmund. [TheNorthernEcho]
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This is lelong sale !
Cheap and why didn't the better teams sign him ?!
West Ham and Milan have struck an agreement on Carlos Bacca. Down to Bacca and West Ham to agree terms now
This is lelong sale !
Cheap and why didn't the better teams sign him ?!
Age, fitness.
Regress a lot since his last major injury.
Being lost is ok. They are still very young and learning the game. Young players usually struggle with consistency and decision making in final third. All these can improve.
However, why Ojo moves ahead is because he carried out Klopp's instructions.
Sheyi Ojo is only 19. He has been selected to play for England for the coming under 19 european competition.
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Still a raw talent and needs about 1~2 years to develop. Liverpool needs such back up for certain game changer football occasions, so good to retain, imo.
It is understood Liverpool have accepted a �15m bid from Bournemouth for Jordon Ibe and have given him permission to speak to the Cherries.
[David Anderson, Daily Mirror]
Hopefully there will be a buy back clause too.
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abit sad to see ibe not fufilling his potential at anfield at this stage of his career.�
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think last season, Klopp did tried to fit him in. but, he started to play with a load of sandbags on his shoulders. begin to looked burdened and unable to express himself freely. more often than not, he started to blamed and kick himself for not playing right or well. i think it has got to do with trying to fufill the fans' expectations on him.. that he is supposed to be the next Raheem Sterling.�
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Klopp's squad is gonna be alot smaller this season since he is getting out of the squad experimental mode and there is no european football to blood youngsters. Klopp also need a ready 1st team right wing forward to play consistently in and out of game. There where it can be hard to see game time for Ibe.�
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end of the day, Klopp is also doing the right thing. Game time is what Ibe needs at this stage of his career. Pool can also cash in on a undoubtedly raw talent. hopefully, Pool can insert a buy-back clause so that they retain the 1st option on the player when he is more ready for Pool's 1st team...�
Hate to admit this, but to me the person who do this job constantly since i follow english football was ryan giggs.
Looks like West Ham have pull out from the race to sign Benteke.
West Ham and Milan have struck an agreement on Carlos Bacca. Down to Bacca and West Ham to agree terms now
AC Milan have agreed to sell Carlos Bacca to West Ham for �26m. Bacca now has to decide if he wants to move West Ham [Sky Italy]
abit sad to see ibe not fufilling his potential at anfield at this stage of his career.�
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think last season, Klopp did tried to fit him in. but, he started to play
with a load of sandbags on his shoulders. begin to looked burdened and unable to express himself freely. more often than not, he started to blamed and kick himself for not playing right or well. i think it has got to do with trying to fufill the fans' expectations on him.. that he is supposed to be the next Raheem Sterling.��like shit after he signed a new contract.��
Klopp's squad is gonna be alot smaller this season since he is getting out of the squad experimental mode and there is no european football to blood youngsters. Klopp also need a ready 1st team right wing forward to play consistently in and out of game. There where it can be hard to see game time for Ibe.�
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end of the day, Klopp is also doing the right thing. Game time is what Ibe needs at this stage of his career. Pool can also cash in on a undoubtedly raw talent. hopefully, Pool can insert a buy-back clause so that they retain the 1st option on the player when he is more ready for Pool's 1st team...�
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Corrected for you�
Now like very hard to find gd winger who love to torture fb on 1v1 situation and has the abitities to put in a gd cross or the right pass.
Hate to admit this, but to me the person who do this job constantly since i follow english football was ryan giggs.
To be fair, the modern wide player is expected to track back and cover the FB. With this added responsibility,�coaches look our for generalists rather than specialized wingers like Milner with high work rate�and precisely cos they are generalists, end up neither here nor there and likely they�will not have the skill to take on 1 v 1 but the plus side is they cover�a lot of ground and help out FB and ensure team is not outnumbered in MF.
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Ryan Giggs type of winger is getting extinct.�My 2 cents.....
Ryan Giggs type of winger is getting extinct.�My 2 cents.....
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There's not supposed to be (m)any around to begin with - he's a mutant�
AC Milan have agreed to sell Carlos Bacca to West Ham for �26m. Bacca now has to decide if he wants to move West Ham [Sky Italy]
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Just my 2 cents on this transfer:
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1) Going rate for International strikers these days is at least >�30m so seems a fair price for Bacca but then again he is almost 30yrs old but he is a regular�for the Colombian National team.
2) Seems strange no EPL club after Eduardo Vargas of Chile who is younger (26yrs I think) and the winner of the Golden Boot at the recent Copa.
Now like very hard to find gd winger who love to torture fb on 1v1 situation and has the abitities to put in a gd cross or the right pass.
Hate to admit this, but to me the person who do this job constantly since i follow english football was ryan giggs.
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Maybe you might have�heard of Steve Coppell and Gordon Hill from�ManU of the�80's ...�
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They are the best wingers in that era ....
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machiam, man u and man c challenging each other,
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who can spend more.
That time im still crawalingMaybe you might have heard of Steve Coppell and Gordon Hill from ManU of the 80's ...
They are the best wingers in that era ....
Maybe you might have heard of Steve Coppell and Gordon Hill from ManU of the 80's ...
They are the best wingers in that era ....
I only got to know what is a winger after watching John Barnes
Just my 2 cents on this transfer:
1) Going rate for International strikers these days is at least >�30m so seems a fair price for Bacca but then again he is almost 30yrs old but he is a regular for the Colombian National team.
2) Seems strange no EPL club after Eduardo Vargas of Chile who is younger (26yrs I think) and the winner of the Golden Boot at the recent Copa.
Frankly speaking, if I am West Ham, I rather spend �30m on Benteke than �26m on Bacca
BREAKING - Jurgen Klopp signs a new six year deal keeping him here until at least 2022.
http://www.liverpool...ronger-11586079
Edited by Osprey23, 08 July 2016 - 06:09 PM.
I only got to know what is a winger after watching John Barnes
Frankly speaking, if I am West Ham, I rather spend �30m on Benteke than �26m on Bacca
Agreed, Benteke is younger and proven in EPL having been in England for few years now.
As I've posted previously, he is not bad a striker, just not suited to Pool's style but then again Hammers have Carroll so maybe they want a more nimble striker which Bacca�is?�
Agreed, Benteke is younger and proven in EPL having been in England for few years now.
As I've posted previously, he is not bad a striker, just not suited to Pool's style but then again Hammers have Carroll so maybe they want a more nimble striker which Bacca is?
When both are fit, start them both upfront and bomb long balls forward
Anyway, they signed Gokhan Tore on loan for a fee of around �5m. Deal will become permanent if he does well. I think he is a winger.
When both are fit, start them both upfront and bomb long balls forward
Anyway, they signed Gokhan Tore on loan for a fee of around �5m. Deal will become permanent if he does well. I think he is a winger.
Haha then go back to the 70s where all English clubs only tactic was high ball into the box!!�
Hammers really spending on players likely cos with bigger new stadium and European football, they got more $ to�buy big!!
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Gokhan this name don't know is it the same as one who previously played in EPL, I could be wrong though.
Happy weekend to all fellow Reds!
BREAKING - Jurgen Klopp signs a new six year deal keeping him here until at least 2022.
http://www.liverpool...ronger-11586079
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Happy Weekend to all.
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Remember what happened when Pardew was awarded and signed a 6 year deal after a fine season with Newcastle?
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Even me won't wish (or curse) that on JK, he is a decent fellow.
Happy Weekend to all.
Remember what happened when Pardew was awarded and signed a 6 year deal after a fine season with Newcastle?
Even me won't wish (or curse) that on JK, he is a decent fellow.
Hehe, no one can say for sure whether Klopp will rock the Kop or flop, but he is the best manager for Pool imo. So I am happy that he commits long term. That will allow him to plan for longer term which is good. Happy that FSG wasted no time in tying him down.
Even reported that Liverpool has submitted an application for Work Permit. Not sure how jornos in Portugal knows about WP application in England though
The English clubs are all spending big monies
Chelsea have firmed up their interest in Kalidou Koulibaly by submitting a �34m bid. (Source: Daily Express)
The English clubs are all spending big monies
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" not bad " is actually bad egg become not bad after some quality upgrade.
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Southampton really like rebuilding every season
Omitted from the squad in the opening friendly of preseason
http://www.dailymail...an-Anfield.html
Hehe, no one can say for sure whether Klopp will rock the Kop or flop, but he is the best manager for Pool imo. So I am happy that he commits long term. That will allow him to plan for longer term which is good. Happy that FSG wasted no time in tying him down.
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True, true. I had wished that MU would sign him before he signed for Pool.
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Still remember what he said in his 1st interview: �t's not so important how you are welcomed when you arrive, but how you are remembered when you leave" (essence only. can't remember the exact words"
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It sadly but aptly apply to LvG at MU.
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Sakho cleared of doping charges!!!
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Sakho is cleared from the doping scandal. Can resume playing.
Too excited to post and missed your post. Sorry bro.
I really hope Sakho or LFC take UEFA to court now. We need to know exactly what happened for them to ban a player at a late late stage of season and only to clear him after so long.
Sakho missed the Sevilla final and the chance to represent his country in the Euros because of this
Mario G�tze has decided to leave FC Bayern. In talks with Tottenham. Dortmund also interested.
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Too excited to post and missed your post. Sorry bro.
I really hope Sakho or LFC take UEFA to court now. We need to know exactly what happened for them to ban a player at a late late stage of season and only to clear him after so long.
Sakho missed the Sevilla final and the chance to represent his country in the Euros because of this
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i think tough lah. UEFA's hands are tied cos the substance was on WADA list. Can only go after WADA i think�
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i think tough lah. UEFA's hands are tied cos the substance was on WADA list. Can only go after WADA i think
Agreed, it's going to be tough to go after UEFA.
Anyway, UEFA is a rubbish body, I never trust them, period.....
actually, Sakho must also shoulder part of the blame. Am sure the players are repeatedly told NOT TO ingest any supplements without the team doctor's approval �
No prob at all. Carry on the good work. I enjoy your posts.Mario Götze has decided to leave FC Bayern. In talks with Tottenham. Dortmund also interested.
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Too excited to post and missed your post. Sorry bro.
I really hope Sakho or LFC take UEFA to court now. We need to know exactly what happened for them to ban a player at a late late stage of season and only to clear him after so long.
Sakho missed the Sevilla final and the chance to represent his country in the Euros because of this
Slept late so caught it...
1) English press says that substance in WADA list but Sakho's lawyer managed to argue that the substance should not be in the list.
2) French press says the substance is not in the list but it belongs to a category of fat burner that is in the list.
If it is scenario A, I would agree that Sakho and Liverpool has no case against UEFA and Sakho has to shoulder some blame.
But what if it is scenario B?
Also if indeed is scenario A, wouldn't UEFA whack him for gross negligence as well. Nevermind whether the substance should or should not be in the list but since it is, you shouldn't be touching it in the first place
Edited by Osprey23, 09 July 2016 - 12:05 PM.
final pay check
http://www.express.c...e-Ban-WADA-News
Sakho has my respect for how he conducted himself in this matter. Voluntarily asked for suspension so that club would not be in a fix and still pay him when he cannot be picked.
Next captain in my eyes if Hendo really stepping down
Carlos Bacca apparently wants �120k pw to join West Ham.
final pay check
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South Americans strikers somehow do not thrive in England, woth few exceptions of course. So to pay so much to this chap who is 30 looks like a not-so-good deal
Paul Joyce now also reported that the substance is NOT in the list.
http://www.express.c...e-Ban-WADA-News
Sakho has my respect for how he conducted himself in this matter. Voluntarily asked for suspension so that club would not be in a fix and still pay him when he cannot be picked.
Next captain in my eyes if Hendo really stepping down
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then what test did he fail ? Did UEFA officials conduct the test, and what is test based on then ? UEFA got its own list, different from WADA ?�
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then what test did he fail ? Did UEFA officials conduct the test, and what is test based on then ? UEFA got its own list, different from WADA ?
wa lan, sounds like a big cockup leh
That's what I hope can come to light with a lawsuit against them Bro. Too many unanswered questions. Not in the list and yet banned and investigate him? Too many things just don't add up.
And they still want Stones?
Reports in Italy claiming that Bonucci has accepted Manchester City's offer of �8m per year! Transfer now pending Juventus accepting the �60m bid.
And they still want Stones?
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seems like Guardiola + $$$ is a deadly combo !! Messi anyone ?
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Wenger should consider jese Rodriguez on the cheap instead
Unfortunately monies rules.seems like Guardiola + $$$ is a deadly combo !! Messi anyone ?
This man citeh is like many of those chinese clubs. No proud history. Buy buy buy success only.
Creating more hatred than sarpork for this tiny club
They want 50m profit... siao... don't even know what so good about morata
Wenger should consider jese Rodriguez on the cheap instead
They need the money to beat Man Utd to Pogba.
Unfortunately monies rules.
This man citeh is like many of those chinese clubs. No proud history. Buy buy buy success only.
Creating more hatred than sarpork for this tiny club
Pep is far from done I think. Ter Stegen and San� yet to get. Not sure about hatred part, many felt envious that they can just just throw money to buy anyone they fancy.
Pep is far from done I think. Ter Stegen and San� yet to get. Not sure about hatred part, many felt envious that they can just just throw money to buy anyone they fancy.
Agreed, why envy other clubs who can spend. When you turn comes, don't eat your own words is my mantra. I'm reading Pep wants Bravo rather than Stegen?
Unfortunately monies rules.
This man citeh is like many of those chinese clubs. No proud history. Buy buy buy success only.
Creating more hatred than sarpork for this tiny club
China or Arab businessmen takeover Spurs n u will sing a different tune for sure!
Haiz.... but then spurs might lose its soul and identity liao.China or Arab businessmen takeover Spurs n u will sing a different tune for sure!
http://www.mirror.co...ging-up-8385548
If Chinese take over, you guys will be in danger of shirt colour change because you are not wearing redHaiz.... but then spurs might lose its soul and identity liao.
Edited by Osprey23, 10 July 2016 - 02:35 PM.
Didn't hear about that but well, if Barcelona intend to give Ter Stegen the start he craves for, then maybe Pep might try for Bravo then.Agreed, why envy other clubs who can spend. When you turn comes, don't eat your own words is my mantra. I'm reading Pep wants Bravo rather than Stegen?
If Pep is to plan long term, Ter Stegen will be a better buy imo
Apparently Bravo is playing better than e German, that's y he getting e starting lineup instead of the latter. His performance at Copa is another his testimony.Didn't hear about that but well, if Barcelona intend to give Ter Stegen the start he craves for, then maybe Pep might try for Bravo then.
If Pep is to plan long term, Ter Stegen will be a better buy imo
Anyway I heard pep is looking at Bravo instead of that German guy
Agree that Bravo is playing really well, that's why Ter Stegen finding it so hard to dislodge him from the No.1 spot. :)Apparently Bravo is playing better than e German, that's y he getting e starting lineup instead of the latter. His performance at Copa is another his testimony.
Anyway I heard pep is looking at Bravo instead of that German guy
Bravo is 30+ iirc and certainly not someone whom you would want be build up the defense with on a longer term. So depends on what Pep wants I guess.
Let's see how it goes but either way, Hart's place is certainly threatened
Edited by Osprey23, 10 July 2016 - 03:37 PM.
http://www.thesportr...s-man-utd-deal/
Indisputably, Man Utd are the pride of EPL. First time I think for an English club to beat Real Madrid to a signing by offering a deal that they cannot even match.
According to Richard Key, Man Utd is very close in getting Pogba.
http://www.thesportr...s-man-utd-deal/
Indisputably, Man Utd are the pride of EPL. First time I think for an English club to beat Real Madrid to a signing by offering a deal that they cannot even match.
This is what I call giving the Spaniards a taste of their own medicine. Real n Barca shldnt always have things their own ways. One up to United n EPL if Pogba does come
But can also be called "Cutting off the nose to spite the face" if it's just to keep up with the Joneses.
I mean, paying a vast sum to have a player who's just like another lumbering Balo is not financial prudence but with Juan Mata on his way out (who is a better player imho) and Fellaini (with better elbows in the 6 yard box), JM wants better and instant results. Is he worth it?
For the record, I don't rate Pogba at �100mil.
�50-�60mil can consider. I don't think United paying that price just to spite Real.
In fact, I don't believe any club buys players just to prevent another club from getting that player, not even City nor Chelsea nor anyone for that matter.
IMO, nice to let the bigger clubs like Real, Barca n Bayern feel how it's like to be outbidded, rejected etc n that's why even though I'm not a United supporter, I'm happy they put one up over the biggest clubs
I am with bro OS, though I dont like Big Sam, I dont mind seeing him or even Alan Pardew leading England just for laughs�
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According to James Pearce, Pool are no longer pursuing Gotze.
http://www.liverpool...-gotze-11593690
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Yep, hands and legs up in full agreement. LFC don't need players that are not fully convinced and committed.
For the record, I don't rate Pogba at �100mil.
�50-�60mil can consider. I don't think United paying that price just to spite Real.
In fact, I don't believe any club buys players just to prevent another club from getting that player, not even City nor Chelsea nor anyone for that matter.
IMO, nice to let the bigger clubs like Real, Barca n Bayern feel how it's like to be outbidded, rejected etc n that's why even though I'm not a United supporter, I'm happy they put one up over the biggest clubs 11 July 2016 - 08:58 PMOsprey23Shandong Luneng have signed Graziano Pelle for a fee of �12m from Southampton and Papiss Ciss� from Newcastle for �5m.
11 July 2016 - 10:02 PMOsprey23Pogba's mum: "My son wants to stay at Juventus and the club and Riaola know what he wants".
Look like the champagne might have to put back into the chiller first.
I think it is all down to Pogba now.
11 July 2016 - 10:10 PMOsprey23Liverpool are mulling over their next move in attempts to sign Piotr Zielinski. May end interest after having �11.75m bid rejected.
[David Anderson, Daily Mirror]
11 July 2016 - 10:28 PMCivic2000Pogba's mum: "My son wants to stay at Juventus and the club and Riaola know what he wants".
Look like the champagne might have to put back into the chiller first.
I think it is all down to Pogba now.�
There is another report saying that�Juventus�rejected �132m (�112m)�offer from Man�United. You believe? I don�t believe. �They can keep him for�another 10 years.� Base on his Euro 2016 performance, he is not even worth 50 mil.
11 July 2016 - 11:37 PMOsprey23Former Arsenal keeper could earn a contract at Liverpool
http://www.liverpool...ntract-11599192
I believe Man Utd has the money to make the bid. But I am not sure if they have.There is another report saying that Juventus rejected �132m (£112m) offer from Man United. You believe? I don�t believe. They can keep him for another 10 years. Base on his Euro 2016 performance, he is not even worth 50 mil.
If they indeed made the bid, I don't believe Juventus will reject it unless Pogba made it clear that he doesn't want the move.
However if that's the case, the agent would have informed Man Utd and they won't make the bid.
Have to agree on your valuation based on Euro performance. Joe "Welsh Pirlo" Allen made it to the official team of the tournament and yet he is available for �10m.![]()
Edited by Osprey23, 11 July 2016 - 11:51 PM.
12 July 2016 - 12:05 AMOsprey23Manchester City will sign Marlos Moreno on a 5 year deal and loan him immediately to La Liga. Deportivo La Coru�a front of the queue.
12 July 2016 - 06:38 AMOsprey23On Sakho's anti-doping case.
http://www.telegraph...-over-doping-v/
Looks like the French papers are right. Substance NOT on list but WADA insisted that Sakho be banned because of the family of drug which the substance belongs to.
Edited by Osprey23, 12 July 2016 - 06:41 AM.
12 July 2016 - 08:30 AMSpringOn Sakho's anti-doping case.
http://www.telegraph...-over-doping-v/
Looks like the French papers are right. Substance NOT on list but WADA insisted that Sakho be banned because of the family of drug which the substance belongs to.
Seems like for once UEFA not the culprit but WADA instead?
They might appeal against UEFA's decision to let Sakho off!!
http://www.mirror.co...e-legal-8401238
12 July 2016 - 08:57 AMOsprey23Seems like for once UEFA not the culprit but WADA instead?
They might appeal against UEFA's decision to let Sakho off!!
http://www.mirror.co...e-legal-8401238
Don't think they have a case bro.
During the hearing when Sakho presented his case, WADA did not even has anyone representive to present their case. UEFA then had an easy decision to make. Substance not on list, Sakho cleared of any charges.
Hearing don't want to be present then now want to appeal? They can go fly kite lah
12 July 2016 - 09:05 AMSpringDon't think they have a case bro.
During the hearing when Sakho presented his case, WADA did not even has anyone representive to present their case. UEFA then had an easy decision to make. Substance not on list, Sakho cleared of any charges.
Hearing don't want to be present then now want to appeal? They can go fly kite lah�
Haha you got a point, don't want top be present at hearing n now want to appeal!!
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Trouble with this WADA is that they can be overzealous. Happen to other sports as well so don't think Pool or football being singled out here. Anyway, it's a real pity for club, country and player. Lose lose situation. Personally I feel benefit of any doubt should be given to sportsman till solid evidence is presented otherwise a similar situation will happen again.
12 July 2016 - 09:39 AMNgseemingI am a long time admirer of Ah Seng, esp after he cured his myopic problems.
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But those gunner fans who pay good monies for merchandise and tickets and the club just lock it into their account with no intentions to compete on transfer market may not be overjoyed. They have backed out on at least 2 reported deals so far. Youth and long term policy is at best idealism. Even if the players are loyal, their agents may not be. With Arsenal languishing in the eternal top 4 positions, one has little hope that they can hold on the top promising young stars. They would go either for financial or footballing reasons, if not for both.�
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Not many fully grasp the commercial impacts on EPL. The teams do not depend so much for success on the pitch. LFC, like Ed said, despite their recent (or not so recent) drought, they are still No. 2 shirt seller in UK. MU revenue grow by over 30% over the past 3 underwhelming seasons. Arsenal earned more TV money than Leicester last season etc
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So it's worth to keep the momentum going by any means. New players, or even new managers to stay in the limelight. Or for some to survive in the premiership where TV money of abt 65 mil is guarantee by just being there.
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If Pogba is ex at 100 mil, W Ham just slapped 100 mil price tag on Payet.
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If Lambo is out of touch and mere dream for me, it's a toy for many.
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If one thinks that MU is reckless financially, the latest report (June 2014) said they have the lowest wage to revenue % in EPL. (Obviously they were help by the huge revenue base) Among the top teams, Arsenal is next with 55%. Rest of the top teams are ard 60%. WBA had the hight at 75%.
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Therein lies the spending power of MU.
12 July 2016 - 11:16 AMOsprey23Bro Ngseeming
Not sure on the latest but with Zlatan and Mkhitaryan onboard, the wage numbers certainly have gone up significantly.
West Ham put a price tag of �50m on Payet but i seriously doubt anyone will be paying that.
Man Utd model is built on success to drive commercial and with loads of money, continue achieve success.
That's the reason why Man Utd will not hesitate to spend big, not just because they can, but also they must. Let's put it this way, they can't afford to have barren spells like what Pool are going through. The business model will crash
Edited by Osprey23, 12 July 2016 - 11:17 AM.
12 July 2016 - 11:27 AML23Bro Ngseeming
Not sure on the latest but with Zlatan and Mkhitaryan onboard, the wage numbers certainly have gone up significantly.
West Ham put a price tag of �50m on Payet but i seriously doubt anyone will be paying that.
Man Utd model is built on success to drive commercial and with loads of money, continue achieve success.
That's the reason why Man Utd will not hesitate to spend big, not just because they can, but also they must. Let's put it this way, they can't afford to have barren spells like what Pool are going through. The business model will crash�
That's happened to Leeds�
12 July 2016 - 11:58 AMOsprey23That's happened to Leeds
Leeds do not have the fundation when they took that route imo.
They crashed even before they took off
12 July 2016 - 12:01 PMBismarckLeeds is different case. The spend the money that they don't have at all.That's happened to Leeds
No doubt Leeds is a big club. But commercially, just based on jersey sales alone, they can't even compare to Newcastle.
12 July 2016 - 04:54 PMOsprey23"And when you've a club like C. Palace will to pay �125-130k a week to a guy at LFC (Benteke), you do think it has gone barmy", says West Ham owner Sullivan who has valued Payet at �50m.
12 July 2016 - 05:14 PMOsprey23DEAL DONE: Swansea have signed Tyler Reid from Manchester United for an undisclosed fee.
Mata, Schweinstiger, Rojo and Blind are all believed to be on Jose' clear out list
12 July 2016 - 05:19 PMSuPerBoRedDEAL DONE: Swansea have signed Tyler Reid from Manchester United for an undisclosed fee.
Mata, Schweinstiger, Rojo and Blind are all believed to be on Jose' clear out list�
you made me google who tyler reid is... and wonder if you did a typo somewhere..
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12 July 2016 - 08:56 PMOsprey23Haha sorry about that. I presume is an academy player?you made me google who tyler reid is... and wonder if you did a typo somewhere..
Anyway, Pool clearing faster.
Skrtel, Canos and Ibe to be confirmed within days. Bogdan close to Wigan switch as well.
12 July 2016 - 09:34 PMSabian 12 July 2016 - 10:11 PMOsprey23Apparently Bonucci will renew with Juventus - �5m new contract. Juventus have rejected City's offer.
12 July 2016 - 10:46 PMOsprey23Jonas Hector's agent has confirmed that Liverpool have made an offer for him. (Sport)
The offer apparently is made before Euro and unlikely to be accepted by Koln who is hoping to sell him to a higher bidder
12 July 2016 - 10:49 PMOsprey23 12 July 2016 - 10:52 PMScionoff topic....
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these are his recent photos
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12 July 2016 - 11:29 PMOsprey23 12 July 2016 - 11:41 PMJamescUnfortunately monies rules.
This man citeh is like many of those chinese clubs. No proud history. Buy buy buy success only.
Creating more hatred than sarpork for this tiny club�
Man City has a proud history,
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12 July 2016 - 11:56 PMOsprey23off topic....
anyone remember England legend Paul Gascoigne?
49 year old only, but totally destroyed by alcoholism...
these are his recent photos
bet he doesn't even watched the Euro... probably just drinks his life away
Sad to see him in this state. Saw links to that article but didn't want to click. Anything from the rag I don't read
13 July 2016 - 06:35 AMOsprey23Surprise... Chelsea is after Drinkwater
13 July 2016 - 08:12 AMOsprey23City have signed Ger�nimo Rulli and will loan him to Sociedad with an obligation to buy for �7m. City will then have a buy-back clause. Rulli could remain with Real Sociedad until 2018 at which point City will exercise their buy-back clause and buy him for around �14m.
Summary: City have bought Rulli, will loan him to Sociedad, who will have to buy him for �7m, with City able to buy him back for �14m. [AS]
What a complicated transfer.![]()
13 July 2016 - 08:21 AMOsprey23Recommended read for Pool fans. Simon Hughes outlined some pending changing to the club and also suggested that the offers from China are around �750m.
http://www.independe...s-a7133456.html
Only one thing I heard differently. Chilwell is close to a move. By end of this week should have news.
13 July 2016 - 08:27 AMOsprey23 13 July 2016 - 08:30 AMHamburgerthe legacy continues....
13 July 2016 - 08:39 AMSpringCity have signed Ger�nimo Rulli and will loan him to Sociedad with an obligation to buy for �7m. City will then have a buy-back clause. Rulli could remain with Real Sociedad until 2018 at which point City will exercise their buy-back clause and buy him for around �14m.
Summary: City have bought Rulli, will loan him to Sociedad, who will have to buy him for �7m, with City able to buy him back for �14m. [AS]
What a complicated transfer.
The authorities Shld not allow this kind of transfers. Obviously big club milking the transfer market n it becomes like trading kettle. And to make matters worse, the smaller club, Sociedad in this case will be sort of indebted to City n leads to the feeder club situation which the authorities are keen to stop so as to ensure fair play.
Even ownership rules of FC doesn't allow an owner to own more than one club IIRC so this Shld be barred as well.
13 July 2016 - 09:32 AMcashcowOT: Celtics lost to this team 1-0 in UCL qualifier.
Not too sure if BR will be a good choice for England.BR might be in for a shock sacking if they got kicked out of CL at this stage.
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I can only hope this will not happen.
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In life, you really need to have luckn esp ib football.
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Talk is cheap. Lots of hard work ahead for BR & Co.
13 July 2016 - 09:35 AMOsprey23Tough bro.The authorities Shld not allow this kind of transfers. Obviously big club milking the transfer market n it becomes like trading kettle. And to make matters worse, the smaller club, Sociedad in this case will be sort of indebted to City n leads to the feeder club situation which the authorities are keen to stop so as to ensure fair play.
Even ownership rules of FC doesn't allow an owner to own more than one club IIRC so this Shld be barred as well.
Each and every transaction is in accordance to the rule. Nothing to fault City with.
Yes, owners cannot own more than one club in the same league but not stopping them to own different clubs in different leagues
13 July 2016 - 09:37 AML23The authorities Shld not allow this kind of transfers. Obviously big club milking the transfer market n it becomes like trading kettle. And to make matters worse, the smaller club, Sociedad in this case will be sort of indebted to City n leads to the feeder club situation which the authorities are keen to stop so as to ensure fair play.
Even ownership rules of FC doesn't allow an owner to own more than one club IIRC so this Shld be barred as well.�
In business world, this is called Networking
13 July 2016 - 09:44 AMSpringTough bro.
Each and every transaction is in accordance to the rule. Nothing to fault City with.
Yes, owners cannot own more than one club in the same league but not stopping them to own different clubs in different leaguesYes it's tough obviously but rules can be added to make this a no-go.
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Eg A player cannot move to another club within say 1 or 2 transfer windows just after he joined a new club. I'm sure the authorities can implement something otherwise football will be cornered by the richest clubs which is slowly happening already and fair play may be compromised.
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I've always advocated not being envious of richer clubs and teams buying success and have chastised forumers and fans from saying clubs have no history etc which I still standby but a line has to be drawn on what a rich club is allowed to do and this selling on of players�should be stopped as it has crossed the line as far as I'm concerned.�
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I don't fault City, I fault the rules that allow them to do this. This is the ugly side of money, not the buying of players to improve your own team, my 2 cents.
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13 July 2016 - 09:51 AMSpringIn business world, this is called Networking
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In the interest of fair play, networking should not be allowed in football but admittedly it's easier said than done. Football is a sport after all not a business which I've always insisted on but unfortunately it is moving in that direction which is to the detriment of us genuine lovers of the game!
13 July 2016 - 10:32 AMOsprey23In this particular case, City possibly guilty of hogging. They know this keeper is good but can't give him starting berth. They also aware that Real Sociaded are interested in him and thus made this proposal.Yes it's tough obviously but rules can be added to make this a no-go.
Eg A player cannot move to another club within say 1 or 2 transfer windows just after he joined a new club. I'm sure the authorities can implement something otherwise football will be cornered by the richest clubs which is slowly happening already and fair play may be compromised.
I've always advocated not being envious of richer clubs and teams buying success and have chastised forumers and fans from saying clubs have no history etc which I still standby but a line has to be drawn on what a rich club is allowed to do and this selling on of players should be stopped as it has crossed the line as far as I'm concerned.
I don't fault City, I fault the rules that allow them to do this. This is the ugly side of money, not the buying of players to improve your own team, my 2 cents.
As far as Sociadad is concern, they would probably be losing out on the player anyway. So this deal might be win-win as they get to loan the player with an obligatory clause to sign him and should City come back for him in the future, they are guarenteed of a profit.
Football transfers at the end of the day, still a willing buyer, willing seller and willing player transaction. Money can influence but will never be able to force a deal through if one party die die don't want to deal.
As for players not allowed to move within 1 or 2 windows, I don't think it will be received well as it seriously violate basic employment rights. What is being done now though, is to restrict a player from representing more than 2 clubs in the same season. Meaning if A played for Club X in preseason, get transferred to Club Y, played a game for them, he cannot play for Club Z in that season even if Club Y sold him off immediate in the same window.
Edited by Osprey23, 13 July 2016 - 10:35 AM.
13 July 2016 - 10:38 AMOsprey23In the interest of fair play, networking should not be allowed in football but admittedly it's easier said than done. Football is a sport after all not a business which I've always insisted on but unfortunately it is moving in that direction which is to the detriment of us genuine lovers of the game!
Bold portion is the reason why Liverpool are trailing Man Utd in financial means now. When we were successful in 70s and 80s, we made no effort to expand the commercial side of things, because of that belief held by the Anfield hierarchy.
Man Utd took the commercial path even before they started their dominance on the field.
The rest they say, is history.
13 July 2016 - 10:42 AMNgseemingAgain there is no good solution in this imperfect world.
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If one bars the players from playing in the same league after having played with another club, then one might as well scrap the Jan transfer window. It may hurt the smaller clubs which could not afford big squads, desperate for survival more.
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13 July 2016 - 11:05 AMSpringAs for players not allowed to move within 1 or 2 windows, I don't think it will be received well as it seriously violate basic employment rights. What can be done though, is to restrict a player from representing more than 2 clubs in the same season. Meaning if A played for Club X in preseason, get transferred to Club Y, played a game for them, he cannot play for Club Z in that season even if Club Y sold him off immediate in the same window.
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I think there is�a rule presently that you can't be registered�for 3 clubs in�the same season but for this case, he never played for City so in theory, it's still 2 clubs so within the rules I think, something like that.
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Anyway, I feel strongly on this bartering/hogging or whatever you want to call it of players and feel the football authorities can surely come up with something to stop this. IMO, it's not a violation of employment cos he's still paid and employed not as if it's restrictive for the player to ply his trade.
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Sorry for the harping on this issue but this situation is much worse than what Chelsea always does by loaning out their players cos in their case not a single time do they have this immediate agreement that at the�end of the�loan to force the loan club to buy the player.
13 July 2016 - 11:11 AMOsprey23 13 July 2016 - 11:23 AMNgseemingWorst scenario, just pay him off.
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Pool can afford to waste a few mil, I believe
13 July 2016 - 11:29 AMFooblackKlopp:"Mario's future is not with us"
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OT: Celtics lost to this team 1-0 in UCL qualifier.
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13 July 2016 - 12:50 PMSpringif pool is resigned to losing the player anyway, might as well keep him in the roster in case there are many injuries during the season?�
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13 July 2016 - 12:57 PMOsprey23if pool is resigned to losing the player anyway, might as well keep him in the roster in case there are many injuries during the season?
hardly any takers for mario in the market. the italian clubs aren't stupid to buy him outright either.. cheapo clubs will only try to loan him..
What makes it worse is that his agent probably won't be pushing very hard for him. Earned enough commission from Man Utd liao.
13 July 2016 - 01:02 PMOsprey23 13 July 2016 - 01:11 PMJamescOT: Celtics lost to this team 1-0 in UCL qualifier.
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13 July 2016 - 02:28 PMWyfitmsOT: Celtics lost to this team 1-0 in UCL qualifier.
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preventing BR from playing his free flowing football
13 July 2016 - 02:32 PMOsprey23dirty imps must have parked the bus after scoring a lucky set piece
preventing BR from playing his free flowing football
Based on his post match, sounds like they parked the bus from first minute. Lob one long ball and scored. Of course, Celtic showed lots of character![]()
13 July 2016 - 02:32 PMWyfitmsBtw, profile of that club Celtic managed to lose to. BR allows them to set a milestone in their club history.
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come on rocky, u can do it!
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13 July 2016 - 02:37 PMWyfitmsBased on his post match, sounds like they parked the bus from first minute. Lob one long ball and scored. Of course, Celtic showed lots of character
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i am sure BR is very satisfied with the work rate and performance.
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�No. There is obvious disappointment. There is no embarrassment. It was a tough game in tough conditions. We didn�t take our chances, they took their chance.
�We dominated and created enough chances to score. Sometimes it can happen, obviously with the pitch, an awkward bounce and all of a sudden the player is in, it�s into the floor and goes in.
�We have seen enough to see that we can get through in the second leg. Of course you are disappointed to lose. It was difficult, of course. They set up 5-4-1. And it doesn�t matter the team, the level. Teams have good organisation, 11 players behind the ball. Throw the pitch into that, it�s very, very tough for the players. But we created enough chances, their keeper made fantastic saves. It gives us a bit of work to do in the second leg.�
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�No. There is obvious disappointment. There is no embarrassment. It was a tough game in tough conditions. We didn�t take our chances, they took their chance.
�We dominated and created enough chances to score. Sometimes it can happen, obviously with the pitch, an awkward bounce and all of a sudden the player is in, it�s into the floor and goes in.
�We have seen enough to see that we can get through in the second leg. Of course you are disappointed to lose. It was difficult, of course. They set up 5-4-1. And it doesn�t matter the team, the level. Teams have good organisation, 11 players behind the ball. Throw the pitch into that, it�s very, very tough for the players. But we created enough chances, their keeper made fantastic saves. It gives us a bit of work to do in the second leg.�
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This is England manager material.
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13 July 2016 - 02:50 PMWyfitmsI am now truly amazed with the genius of LS
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it must have been a tremendous feat to almost deliver the league title�
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in spite of having a manager like BR�
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i don't think even pele or maradonna could have done that if BR was their manager.
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And LS's genius was so complete that he could even make the rest of the country vote BR as manager of the year.. WOW
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13 July 2016 - 03:07 PMBacteria83This is kena caught by mata with his pant down.
13 July 2016 - 03:19 PMOsprey23Wilfried Bony is set to leave Manchester City, with Galatasaray offering a �3m loan spell in Turkey.
Can go against Skrtel again![]()
13 July 2016 - 04:35 PMBismarckOnce a fraud always a fraud. I dare say the best man for the job is worse than woy. Simply because woy thinks he is good where else best man pretend to be good.
13 July 2016 - 05:06 PML23Bold portion is the reason why Liverpool are trailing Man Utd in financial means now. When we were successful in 70s and 80s, we made no effort to expand the commercial side of things, because of that belief held by the Anfield hierarchy.
Man Utd took the commercial path even before they started their dominance on the field.
The rest they say, is history.�
Sound like Nokia..
"we didn't do anything wrong..."�
But they didn't revolve to be a better brand...
13 July 2016 - 05:31 PMGalantspeedz�
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Eg A player cannot move to another club within say 1 or 2 transfer windows just after he joined a new club. I'm sure the authorities can implement something otherwise football will be cornered by the richest clubs which is slowly happening already and fair play may be compromised.
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you know how much dead wood that pool would have been stuck with?
13 July 2016 - 05:36 PMSpringyou know how much dead wood that pool would have been stuck with?
Too bad. Clubs have to live by their decisions be it good or bad and perhaps they will be more careful of their purchases. Idea though is to disallow trading of players by bigger clubs to smaller clubs for an immediate profit which is against the spirit of player movement.��
13 July 2016 - 05:43 PMJamescBold portion is the reason why Liverpool are trailing Man Utd in financial means now. When we were successful in 70s and 80s, we made no effort to expand the commercial side of things, because of that belief held by the Anfield hierarchy.
Man Utd took the commercial path even before they started their dominance on the field.
The rest they say, is history.�
This was started by Sir Matt Busby who visited New York Yankee stadium
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and saw the director boxes and started the commercialisation of the club.
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This brought in so much money they could afford to buy the best players.
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13 July 2016 - 05:58 PMOsprey23Damn it, got it all wrong. They are after his midfield partnerSurprise... Chelsea is after Drinkwater
According to reports from France, Chelsea have agreed a fee of �35 mill with Leicester City for N'Golo Kante
13 July 2016 - 06:06 PMOsprey23Wilfried Bony is set to leave Manchester City, with Galatasaray offering a �3m loan spell in Turkey.
Can go against Skrtel again
Reports in Turkey suggest Galatasaray to make �4m bid for Lucas Leiva.
Can some Turks please come in for Balo, please
13 July 2016 - 06:19 PMSpringCan't believe that the FA is speaking to Sam Allardyce for the vacant England Mgr post.
It's official from Sunderland FC website....
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https://www.safc.com...t-sam-allardyce
13 July 2016 - 07:43 PMHosayboSeems like quite a few supporter for him leh.....
13 July 2016 - 08:15 PMOsprey23Seems like quite a few supporter for him leh.....
SAF also back him. When SAF recommend, usually good.
Oh wait...
13 July 2016 - 10:38 PMcashcowSound like Nokia..
"we didn't do anything wrong..."�
But they didn't revolve to be a better brand...
Issues of branding issues with Liverpool started the day Tom Hicks and George Gillet Jr bought over this well known club in 2007 with borrowed money and tried to make money from this so called prized "investment". It turned out to be a financial disaster. Instead of improving the club's brand, most of the time and resources were spend on bickering between Hicks & Co and the management team with Rick Parry and Rafa Benitez on the receiving end.
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It was well known that during those years, the club struggled to meet the interest payments on the loans taken out as part of the leveraged buyout. It also meant that there was a lack of investment in players resulting in declining performances on the pitch. All that was but a bad phase of the club's history.
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Now with FSG on board, it is more of steadying and strengthening the Liverpool ship and growing the club domestically and globally eg physically increasing capacity of the stadium and accelerating the global brand franchise, endorsements and partnership arrangements.�
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Long story cut short; it is more of catch-up time and it cannot be helped if Man U or Arsenal or even other Johnny-come-latelys has moved ahead of LFC, because past historical glories alone is never good enough.
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So better late than never.There is still hope for Liverpool specially if a genuine deep pocketed suitor is willing to dish out the real $$$, and be committed to leap-frog the club to the where it should rightfully be.
13 July 2016 - 10:58 PMcashcowSAF also back him. When SAF recommend, usually good.
Oh wait...SAF is still a much respected personality in the British football scene. So his views and opinions carries much weight.
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But he was wrong with endorsing David Moyes for the Man U manager post.
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Did he or didn't he has some say on LVG's appointment to replace Moyes as a Board director of Man U?
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Now he endorse JM for Man U. SAF could be right this third time round, right.
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Perhaps he could be also right with Big Sam, being an "appropriate" coach from a "English" coach viewpoint.
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Back on past track record, the FA's selection committee usually end up choosing the most 'politically correct" candidate. Big Fat Sam seems to fit the profile well, very well.
13 July 2016 - 11:13 PMMeanmachineThere is another report saying that�Juventus�rejected �132m (�112m)�offer from Man�United. You believe? I don�t believe. �They can keep him for�another 10 years.� Base on his Euro 2016 performance, he is not even worth 50 mil.
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� � Thy are taking ManUted as sucker, for whatever reason that skull head is NOT every pounds he's worth, for all i care, I think by keeping Fellaini and Mata is a best deal than " PooBor "
13 July 2016 - 11:23 PMMeanmachineI firmly believe a player in any calibre and clubs takes at least 24 months to gel, live and play well, let alone understand the true culture of the club. �IN football term it is not about height or size, we have ebony and ivory ( T.Sheringham and Andy Cole ) characters, hardly speak a word, but a terror once thy kick a ball.
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What have we got here, Mata and Fellaini ( Fellaini can win ball by his head knock down to Mata, who can shoot from all angle and distribution, But I am nt here to tell Jose what to do, He can't afford to do another SAF's mistake...
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Yes, yes I have heard all he say was Mata has no pace, he can't track back like Oscar , Hazard is another midfielder who can attack and shoot, every players has their strength and weakness.
14 July 2016 - 12:49 AMOthelloSeems like quite a few supporter for him leh.....
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I for one feel it might turn out good. He knows how to work with what he had, I think he'll definitely be better than Woeful Woy
14 July 2016 - 08:14 AMKtglfcI for one feel it might turn out good. He knows how to work with what he had, I think he'll definitely be better than Woeful Woy
Let him try out ... Can't be worse than Roy![]()
14 July 2016 - 08:31 AMOsprey23Not surprising at all for me.
http://www.express.c...ier-League-News
Klopp told Karius to snub Olympics so that he will not miss the start of season. Clearly if Migs still the No.1, Karius going to Olympics or not won't matter much.
14 July 2016 - 08:43 AMOsprey23Canos off to Norwich - �2.5m rising to �4.5 with first option (not buy back)
Skrtel off to Fenerbache - �5.5m
Ibe off to Bournemouth (soon) - �15m
This week is a good week for Pool in terms of sales
14 July 2016 - 09:54 AMFooblackCanos off to Norwich - �2.5m rising to �4.5 with first option (not buy back)
Skrtel off to Fenerbache - �5.5m
Ibe off to Bournemouth (soon) - �15m
This week is a good week for Pool in terms of sales�
Sakho may not be ready for that start of the season so Pool is down to Lovren and Matip. �they better stay fit and matip better put on a few pounds as he seems a bit light weight for the epl�
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hope they inserted a buy back for ibe. otherwise, his potential, if exploited, may come back to haunt Klopp on this decision. �
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as a long-faithful servant, Skrtel deserved a better send off than the recent happiness at his departure. forever, he did himself no favours for his vulgarity at Klopp recently
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seems from this point, Klopp is more interested in selling than buying. any further transfers in may well be determined by how much deadwood he can clear...�
14 July 2016 - 10:03 AMGalantspeedzToo bad. Clubs have to live by their decisions be it good or bad and perhaps they will be more careful of their purchases. Idea though is to disallow trading of players by bigger clubs to smaller clubs for an immediate profit which is against the spirit of player movement.��
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Would this not be as good as any of us being tied down to a company for a year or two, without being allowed to switch jobs?
Not surprising at all for me.
http://www.express.c...ier-League-News
Klopp told Karius to snub Olympics so that he will not miss the start of season. Clearly if Migs still the No.1, Karius going to Olympics or not won't matter much.�
rejecting a chance to play for his country.......... hmm...
14 July 2016 - 10:07 AMOsprey23Give other young keepers a chance. His target now should be the NT, not Olympic squad.rejecting a chance to play for his country.......... hmm...
To reach this target, he must do well for his club.
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14 July 2016 - 10:12 AMSpringWould this not be as good as any of us being tied down to a company for a year or two, without being allowed to switch jobs?
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It's not the same comparison right?
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We don't get traded to another company unlike players. That's the fundamental difference between our contracts and a footballer. And that's why we have the�Bosman transfer where players are free to move at the end of their contract unlike pre Bosman days.
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I've never heard of an employee here who has joined a new company only to be "sold" to another employer here so not an apple to apple comparison.
14 July 2016 - 10:16 AMOsprey23Mauro Icardi is wanted by six clubs, including; Arsenal and Spurs. (Source - Calcio Mercato)
14 July 2016 - 11:19 AMcashcowSakho may not be ready for that start of the season so Pool is down to Lovren and Matip. �they better stay fit and matip better put on a few pounds as he seems a bit light weight for the epl�
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as a long-faithful servant, Skrtel deserved a better send off than the recent happiness at his departure. forever, he did himself no favours for his vulgarity at Klopp recently
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seems from this point, Klopp is more interested in selling than buying. any further transfers in may well be determined by how much deadwood he can clear...�
Stock clearance sale of surplus players affects every club, not just Liverpool alone. Man U, Citeh, Chelsea, Arsenal and the rest have to do trading of players here and there.
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It seems that Klopp is managing this departure of 'released' players well �without firesale prices.
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Looks like the present team is undergoing a refreshing change for the better.
14 July 2016 - 11:45 AMFooblackas an aside, Pool's newly acquired Gruijic looks a man-mountain in his first game at the club in the friendly last nite.�
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comparision with Matic at Chelsea are bound to surface due to their similar frame and size, and playing position and style. �
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i really wonder if Klopp still need to go out and grab another central midfielder. �The current players in Can, Gruijic, Allen, Henderson and agruably Milner looks ok unless he is looking for something this current players cannot offer.
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I am excluding Lucas as either he will be kept in the squad as a back CB or be sold off..�
14 July 2016 - 12:04 PMOsprey23seems from this point, Klopp is more interested in selling than buying. any further transfers in may well be determined by how much deadwood he can clear...
I do believe although there is a need to trim the squad, the lack of incoming activity is also due to deadlock in negotiation.
Key players to move on are Benteke and Balotelli. Transfer fees recouping aside, the two will free up �200kpw worth of wages.
I really pity Zielinski. Napoli bid accepted. Our similar bid in value rejected. Zielinski refused to discuss terms with Napoli. Now Milan came in with a �18m bid which is higher and get accepted by Udinese too. Will see how Zielinski response to it now. If Klopp's lure is so strong, he is likely to reject all personal terms talk and force Udinese to accept our bid. If that is to happen, will be late in the window.
Dahoud's situation remains unchanged. Either we give BMG an offer they can't refuse, or we wait till next summer.
Chilwell closest. Hopefully by end of this week can get some news.
Leverkusen had been contacted on Tah. But I have not receive any credible info on the outcome of our enquiry. Just hope we make the move if Leverkusen is willing to do business.
14 July 2016 - 12:30 PMOsprey23as an aside, Pool's newly acquired Gruijic looks a man-mountain in his first game at the club in the friendly last nite.
comparision with Matic at Chelsea are bound to surface due to their similar frame and size, and playing position and style.
i really wonder if Klopp still need to go out and grab another central midfielder. The current players in Can, Gruijic, Allen, Henderson and agruably Milner looks ok unless he is looking for something this current players cannot offer.
I am excluding Lucas as either he will be kept in the squad as a back CB or be sold off..
Grujic had a good outing and I only manage to watch the highlights. I will find time over the weekend to catch the match in full. From the first friendly, Klopp went 4-2-3-1. If that's what he wants for next season, I would say we still need that controller. Grujic if you ask me, is still a B2B like Can, based on how he played for Red Star.
Assuming Can is taking one of the midfield spot, none of whom we have compliment Can as a partner. Allen, Hendo and Milner are more suited in a midfield 3. Ideally, if we are to sign one to partner Can, I hope it would be a DLP like Dahoud or Neves, or a pure DM destroyer like William Carvalho.
14 July 2016 - 12:52 PMGalantspeedzIt's not the same comparison right?
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We don't get traded to another company unlike players. That's the fundamental difference between our contracts and a footballer. And that's why we have the�Bosman transfer where players are free to move at the end of their contract unlike pre Bosman days.
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I've never heard of an employee here who has joined a new company only to be "sold" to another employer here so not an apple to apple comparison.
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but the basics are the same....
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and though we don't hear of company A selling to Company B but we do hear of Staff A joining Staff B and get rewarded by it, something like signing on bonus
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and yes company do buy out another employee's contract.....�
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and maybe our normal skill set not hard to find so no need pay transfer fee.............�
Give other young keepers a chance. His target now should be the NT, not Olympic squad.
To reach this target, he must do well for his club.�
i don't agree that a player should be allowed to choose which level to play for his country.......... but that's my own opinion
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14 July 2016 - 01:44 PMOsprey23Sorry for not making myself clear.i don't agree that a player should be allowed to choose which level to play for his country.......... but that's my own opinion
Karius did not choose the level he should play but rather, he is working hard to be chosen by his NT. If this call up his from Jochim Low, Klopp won't stop him.
My point is this. Between going for the Olympic and missing the chance to establish yourself as the No.1 in your new club, after the manager expressed his desire for you to stay is a no brainer.
The matter was brought up to the German Federation for discussion and they respected Karius' decision.
Beside, Karius probably also eager to have the chance to play at a World Class stadium like the Emirates on the opening day![]()
Edited by Osprey23, 14 July 2016 - 01:49 PM.
14 July 2016 - 02:18 PMFooblackSorry for not making myself clear.
Karius did not choose the level he should play but rather, he is working hard to be chosen by his NT. If this call up his from Jochim Low, Klopp won't stop him.
My point is this. Between going for the Olympic and missing the chance to establish yourself as the No.1 in your new club, after the manager expressed his desire for you to stay is a no brainer.
The matter was brought up to the German Federation for discussion and they respected Karius' decision.
Beside, Karius probably also eager to have the chance to play at a World Class stadium like the Emirates on the opening day�
playing for the junior level in the olympics is really a waste of time imho. national team wise, i agreed more worth it in terms of exposure and development.�
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make no mistake about it, Karius is competing with Mingolet for the right to be no.1 GK for the start of the season. I think Klopp is gonna give him the chance, having seen how Mingolet has played in the last season. He shouldnt have too much things to lose to be honest...�
14 July 2016 - 02:31 PML23Paul Labile Pogba and Manchester United have agreed personal terms.
14 July 2016 - 02:35 PMGalantspeedzSorry for not making myself clear.
Karius did not choose the level he should play but rather, he is working hard to be chosen by his NT. If this call up his from Jochim Low, Klopp won't stop him.
My point is this. Between going for the Olympic and missing the chance to establish yourself as the No.1 in your new club, after the manager expressed his desire for you to stay is a no brainer.
The matter was brought up to the German Federation for discussion and they respected Karius' decision.
Beside, Karius probably also eager to have the chance to play at a World Class stadium like the Emirates on the opening day�
i think playing in the olympics will be good exposure...... he don't have to worry about playing at emirates, he should have many chances at that
14 July 2016 - 03:10 PMSpringbut the basics are the same....
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Think we getting out of point here.
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My point is on not allowing a club (employer in your scenario) to financially gain by trading a player (employee in your scenario) to another club (employer) thru them when they never owned the player in the first place.
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There is no precedent in our local context and I also don't see any breach of employees rights etc as the employee could simply move from his current employer to the final destination employer without the need to go thru this intermediary employer so no comparison at all and also nothing to do with employee rewards, buying out of contract etc which is an entirely different matter altogether.
14 July 2016 - 05:45 PMOsprey23i think playing in the olympics will be good exposure...... he don't have to worry about playing at emirates, he should have many chances at that
But at Olympics he will be facing U21 or U23 teams right? Pit against the top strikers plying their trades in the BPL I think he can learn more.
I do agree Klopp is being selfish here but as long as Karius agrees, the German Federation agrees, everyone is happy.![]()
14 July 2016 - 05:52 PMOsprey23If Big Sam lands the England job, Sunderland will target Moyes as the replacement.
14 July 2016 - 05:53 PMJamescArsenal�plan to offer��42m and Oliver Giroud�for�Gonzalo Higua�n; it is thought that Napoli will hold out for �42m.�
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14 July 2016 - 06:01 PMJamescCan't believe that the FA is speaking to Sam Allardyce for the vacant England Mgr post.
It's official from Sunderland FC website....
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The FA is all about consistency.
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bad managers for England.
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Why change now?
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I support Fat Sam for Engerland.
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14 July 2016 - 06:02 PMJamescIf Big Sam lands the England job, Sunderland will target Moyes as the replacement.
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I wonder how many mirrors Sunderland fans broke.
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14 July 2016 - 06:04 PMJamescI just cannot wait to see Jermaine Defoe
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14 July 2016 - 06:06 PMJamescPaul Labile Pogba and Manchester United have agreed personal terms.
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I have nothing against Pogba
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but even Allen is better than him.
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I know cos I watched all the Euros.
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14 July 2016 - 06:13 PMGalantspeedzThink we getting out of point here.
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My point is on not allowing a club (employer in your scenario) to financially gain by trading a player (employee in your scenario) to another club (employer) thru them when they never owned the player in the first place.
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There is no precedent in our local context and I also don't see any breach of employees rights etc as the employee could simply move from his current employer to the final destination employer without the need to go thru this intermediary employer so no comparison at all and also nothing to do with employee rewards, buying out of contract etc which is an entirely different matter altogether.
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this gets me confused... man city buy the player, loan the player and club buy player for 7m.... thereafter man city buy for 14m.... unless i understand wrongly... i actually term it as man city paying the spanish club for developing the player�
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Don't think they do it for financial gain but more to hoard prospects...... good and bad i guess.....
14 July 2016 - 06:49 PMSpringthis gets me confused... man city buy the player, loan the player and club buy player for 7m.... thereafter man city buy for 14m.... unless i understand wrongly... i actually term it as man city paying the spanish club for developing the player�
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Don't think they do it for financial gain but more to hoard prospects...... good and bad i guess.....
Although its not mentioned in bro O23 post, I'm assuming City bought him for less than 7m** so they will make�a profit when Sociedad is forced to buy him at the end of the season and that's what I feel is not correct cos City just a middleman in this transfer and earning a profit for nothing.
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As for the buy back of 14m, it's a fair and common practice amongst clubs to sell a player and put a buy back�clause which obviously has to be higher than the original price otherwise the selling club (Sociedad in this case) will not agree to it.�So nothing wrong with this.
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**Fair assumption that the buying price should be lower than 7m otherwise why would City want to embark on this at all if it's more than 7mil cos it would make no economic sense as�they will�be�losing money if it's more than 7mil.



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