Napoli really know how to bargain and know a bad deal when they see one.
I seriously doubt this rumour.
Firstly, even though Higuain might be a better striker than Giroud, he is not �42m better. Secondly, they are around the same age, so it really make no sense to trade up a striker for one who is as old. Thirdly, Giroud is currently getting higher wages than Higuain. Is Napoli going to offer him the same wage at least? If not, why would Giroud be interested in the move?
Close to �100m spent over 2 summers on young wingers.
Pep still has a keeper to sign
Although its not mentioned in bro O23 post, I'm assuming City bought him for less than 7m** so they will make�a profit when Sociedad is forced to buy him at the end of the season and that's what I feel is not correct cos City just a middleman in this transfer and earning a profit for nothing.
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above is 023 post, i interpret as man city will confirm buy Rulli at 14m in 2018.
City have signed Ger�nimo Rulli and will loan him to Sociedad with an obligation to buy for �7m. City will then have a buy-back clause. Rulli could remain with Real Sociedad until 2018 at which point City will exercise their buy-back clause and buy him for around �14m.
above is 023 post, i interpret as man city will confirm buy Rulli at 14m in 2018.
If I remember correctly the source is AS? Sometimes the translation to English can be a little off. But since I didn't see the original article on Spainish, I can only take whatever is translated and share.
So my apology if there is error along the way :)
Ya, based on the above, my interpretation is the same as bro GS. Hence my comment about it being a very complicated transfer deal.
About this italian striker. Pelle whos not even first choice for at his former club southampton and who just made a move to shandong soccer team...and salary as much as zlatan ibramovic apparrently.
He was quote saying "it was always my chrismas wish to play for shandong. I have always followed them since i was a kid and now finally i have joined my dream club"
During this 8 and a half year stay at Liverpool, no player has scored more goals against Liverpool than Skrtel himself. 7 own goals.
City have signed Ger�nimo Rulli and will loan him to Sociedad with an obligation to buy for �7m. City will then have a buy-back clause. Rulli could remain with Real Sociedad until 2018 at which point City will exercise their buy-back clause and buy him for around �14m.
above is 023 post, i interpret as man city will confirm buy Rulli at 14m in 2018.
No club I know is silly enough to loan a player to another club for 1 season after which the club has to be buy this player for 7 mil n then another season or 2 later, the original club has to buy him back for double the price. Ask yourself whether this makes sense or not?
No club I know is silly enough to loan a player to another club for 1 season after which the club has to be buy this player for 7 mil n then another season or 2 later, the original club has to buy him back for double the price. Ask yourself whether this makes sense or not?
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http://www.liverpool...l-club-11616627
First time a non-soccer club head the list. First time Pool is valued over �1b as well. But stil behind the Manchester clubs, Arsenal and Chelsea.
No club I know is silly enough to loan a player to another club for 1 season after which the club has to be buy this player for 7 mil n then another season or 2 later, the original club has to buy him back for double the price. Ask yourself whether this makes sense or not?
Erm... many things in football does not make sense... more so when moneybags start coming in
Anyway the interpretation is from what was posted, unless you have a better interpretation or article, we can only discuss based on what was posted...
Doesn't make sense to you and me but apparently make sense to Man CityNo club I know is silly enough to loan a player to another club for 1 season after which the club has to be buy this player for 7 mil n then another season or 2 later, the original club has to buy him back for double the price. Ask yourself whether this makes sense or not?
Anyway, the original AS report here:
http://futbol.as.com...247_000497.html
The report is in a foreign language so maybe there is misinterpretation so u can't say our discussion is not based on what was posted and anyway there is no official English interpretation of it unless u have one? Buy back clauses are never an obligation but an option to the original selling club but what u are saying is that City are obliged to buy back the player at double the price later which as I said doesn't make economical sense.Erm... many things in football does not make sense... more so when moneybags start coming in
Anyway the interpretation is from what was posted, unless you have a better interpretation or article, we can only discuss based on what was posted...
A few possibilities why it might be necessary to loan to Sociedad could be that the player is not able to get a work permit so loaned out to a foreign club first, another reason I can think of is he has some 3rd party ownership which is obliged to loan him to Sociedad first but either way the player can be loaned out to Sociedad even for free if needed but no need to sell to them n then buy back at double the price later.
Anyway even if my interpretation is wrong, the intention of my original post was for rules to not allow a club to buy n sell players immediately for a profit which was what I posted few times on n nvr did u mention about the obligation to buy back which would hv rendered my argument as flawed n instead u posted on the rights of an employee/player to switch employers/clubs??
Edited by Spring, 15 July 2016 - 08:38 AM.
That was in relation to your suggestion of not allowing players to leave the club for a certain period after signing for the club
I seriously doubt this rumour.
Firstly, even though Higuain might be a better striker than Giroud, he is not �42m better. Secondly, they are around the same age, so it really make no sense to trade up a striker for one who is as old. Thirdly, Giroud is currently getting higher wages than Higuain. Is Napoli going to offer him the same wage at least? If not, why would Giroud be interested in the move?
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Martin Skrtel has completed his move to Fenebarche. Liverpool insisted that that he must move overseas.
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In 2014, Deportivo Maldonado bought Rulli from Estudiantes and immediately loan him to Real Sociedad. Agreement was for Real to buy him outright after 2 seasons.
My guess is that Real Sociedad are now unable to fulfil the obligation and Man City have stepped in to "help". By buying over Rulli on behalf of Real, the obligation to Maldonado is fulfilled. Not needing the keeper, Man City offered him back on loan to Real but by next year, they must buy him from Man City. In another word, City helped Real to buy the player first effectively.
For their involvement in this deal, City get a non-obligatory clause to exercise a buy back by Jun 2018 and also, entitled to 25% of the sell on value of Rulli from Sociedad. In his contract with Real to be signed once Real buy him over next season, Rulli will have a buy out clause of �40m which equate to a �10m fee to City if Real manage to sell him on before the end of his contract with Real till 2022.
Hope this settles the debate. I think the buy back of �14m is the sticky point. Now being non-obligatory makes sense. The earlier source I believe translated it wrongly. Should have used "can" instead of "will" when talking about the buy back.
Edited by Osprey23, 15 July 2016 - 09:18 AM.
Exactly, so u could hv told me why u talking about city making a profit out of this when there is no profit at all (based on your interpretation)so the rules I'm asking to be implemented is a non starter in the first place and thus players moving freely becomes a moot point.Spring,
That was in relation to your suggestion of not allowing players to leave the club for a certain period after signing for the club
Edited by Spring, 15 July 2016 - 09:28 AM.
Thks for the effort to search on this, much appreciated.Ok, after trying my best to understand the Google translate and doing some background research, I think I might be able to make some sense out of the whole mess.
In 2014, Deportivo Maldonado bought Rulli from Estudiantes and immediately loan him to Real Sociedad. Agreement was for Real to buy him outright after 2 seasons.
My guess is that Real Sociedad are now unable to fulfil the obligation and Man City have stepped in to "help". By buying over Rulli on behalf of Real, the obligation to Estudiantes is fulfilled. Not needing the keeper, Man City offered him back on loan to Real but by next year, they must buy him from Man City. In another word, City helped Real to buy the player first effectively.
For their involvement in this deal, City get a non-obligatory clause to exercise a buy back by Jun 2018 and also, entitled to 25% of the sell on value of Rulli from Sociedad. In his contract with Real to be signed once Real buy him over next season, Rulli will have a buy out clause of �40m which equate to a �10m fee to City if Real manage to sell him on before the end of his contract with Real till 2022.
Hope this settles the debate. I think the buy back of �14m is the sticky point. Now being non-obligatory makes sense
That's my original point, City making money out of this. Bigger club "helping out" a smaller club which shld be outlawed cos the smaller club would be indebted to the bigger team n possibly contradicts the rules of fair play.
Secondly, as u have mentioned, buy back clause is never obligatory which was why I posted that it makes no sense for City to be compelled to buy back a player at double the price. They may buy him back later if he proves a success but that will be at City's call and not an obligation.
Apologies for the many posts on this. Unlike many, I've nvr complained on City's excessive spending to improve their team cos that is their prerogative but to trade players for an instant profit, help out etc is against the spirit of the game.
Edited by Spring, 15 July 2016 - 09:31 AM.
ok ok. no need to discuss anymore. the situation is clear now. although i dont get why man city is so helpful in buying the player for sociedad.
ok ok. no need to discuss anymore. the situation is clear now. although i dont get why man city is so helpful in buying the player for sociedad.
Quite clear to me. They are effectively lending Sociedad money to buy this player.
In return, if the player turns out good, they get to buy him back, if Sociedad sells him they get a profit out of it. I'm also speculating the price paid is possibly slightly less than 7mil so the lending costs of 7mil is also covered. They lose nothing and possibly gain. Of course, this player must have shown some potential for City to want to do this.
The Arabs are simply too good a businessman.Quite clear to me. They are effectively lending Sociedad money to buy this player.
In return, if the player turns out good, they get to buy him back, if Sociedad sells him they get a profit out of it. I'm also speculating the price paid is possibly slightly less than 7mil so the lending costs of 7mil is also covered. They lose nothing and possibly gain. Of course, this player must have shown some potential for City to want to do this.
By helping, they will now be on good term with Real Sociedad. Next time if there is any transfer deals, easier to negotiate. Not saying City will hold them indebted but just base on good will basis is good enough.
Depending how they want to play it, they can even help another club to get Rulli at lower than �40m release clause. Before buy back expires, buy Rulli at the agreed �14m then sell to the other club at �30m. Win win for both at the expense of Real Sociadad
To me, as far as clubs are playing in accordance to the rule book, I am ok for them to be more creative about doing transfers. Too much restrictions can be boring and lesser discussion on this thread LOL
Exactly, so u could hv told me why u talking about city making a profit out of this when there is no profit at all (based on your interpretation)so the rules I'm asking to be implemented is a non starter in the first place and thus players moving freely becomes a moot point.
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The Arabs are simply too good a businessman.
By helping, they will now be on good term with Real Sociedad. Next time if there is any transfer deals, easier to negotiate. Not saying City will hold them indebted but just base on good will basis is good enough.
Depending how they want to play it, they can even help another club to get Rulli at lower than �40m release clause. Before buy back expires, buy Rulli at the agreed �14m then sell to the other club at �30m. Win win for both at the expense of Real Sociadad
To me, as far as clubs are playing in accordance to the rule book, I am ok for them to be more creative about doing transfers. Too much restrictions can be boring and lesser discussion on this thread LOL
U hit the nail on the head, rich clubs cornering the market and exploiting it for their benefit which makes for an uneven playing field. I admit City has done no wrong n so it's up to the Football legislators to tweak rules on this as that's what they are there for.
Before someone comes n say it's never an even playing field in the first place cos some clubs got more money, my take is u can't legislate if someone wants to throw extravagant sums of money at a FC but u can legislate to ensure that the sport remains fair n not allow for exploitation by the bigger clubs which this case clearly is. Won't u be indebted to City if u were Sociedad as u wouldn't even be able to get this player without City's help!
PS. Vitesse Arnhem has an extraordinarily amount of loanees from Chelsea n both clubs were investigated by the Dutch FA for having an improper relationship but was cleared so admittedly it's not easy to prove n in their case is just straight forward loaning of players not like this.
http://www.skysports...iety-allegation
http://futbolgrad.co...sea-connection/
U hit the nail on the head, rich clubs cornering the market and exploiting it for their benefit which makes for an uneven playing field. I admit City has done no wrong n so it's up to the Football legislators to tweak rules on this as that's what they are there for.
Before someone comes n say it's never an even playing field in the first place cos some clubs got more money, my take is u can't legislate if someone wants to throw extravagant sums of money at a FC but u can legislate to ensure that the sport remains fair n not allow for exploitation by the bigger clubs which this case clearly is. Won't u be indebted to City if u were Sociedad as u wouldn't even be able to get this player without City's help!
PS. Vitesse Arnhem has an extraordinarily amount of loanees from Chelsea n both clubs were investigated by the Dutch FA for having an improper relationship but was cleared so admittedly it's not easy to prove n in their case is just straight forward loaning of players not like this.
http://www.skysports...iety-allegation
http://futbolgrad.co...sea-connection/
must see from which club pov also.
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must see from which club pov also.
normal case if u not a fan of man c, or chel, u would see as them taking advantage of those small clubs.
but if u look from the pov of these small clubs, its a win win situation,
not to mention long run, maybe that season alone they having problem paying wages
with these deal with big clubs, at least they can hang on , till a big boss or sponcer come around
Agreed from the smaller club POV, it's God sent!
I'm looking from a neutral perspective n trying to make Football a level playing field where possible so that us Football lovers will continue to support the sport we all love.
Spring, you mean like how Dortmund is indebted to Bayern?
That one can't prove as so far nothing in the records shows any impropriety.
The City/ Sociedad case is blatant n worse than the Chelsea/Vitesse case cos City is clearly funding the player n is so upfront n bold. Football shouldn't close one eye on this n it shld trigger some investigation at the very least.
He has gone through ups and downs during his stay and eventually came back stronger to prove many critics wrong.
Bye Martin and I wish you well, be it here or Fenerbah�e.
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Thks for the effort to search on this, much appreciated.
That's my original point, City making money out of this. Bigger club "helping out" a smaller club which shld be outlawed cos the smaller club would be indebted to the bigger team n possibly contradicts the rules of fair play.
Secondly, as u have mentioned, buy back clause is never obligatory which was why I posted that it makes no sense for City to be compelled to buy back a player at double the price. They may buy him back later if he proves a success but that will be at City's call and not an obligation.
Apologies for the many posts on this. Unlike many, I've nvr complained on City's excessive spending to improve their team cos that is their prerogative but to trade players for an instant profit, help out etc is against the spirit of the game.
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Spring, you mean like how Dortmund is indebted to Bayern?
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That one can't prove as so far nothing in the records shows any impropriety.
The City/ Sociedad case is blatant n worse than the Chelsea/Vitesse case cos City is clearly funding the player n is so upfront n bold. Football shouldn't close one eye on this n it shld trigger some investigation at the very least.
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Hmm, what if it is Real Sociedad who approached City for help? Also, for this case, it is at most a contractual dispute between Maldonado and Real Sociedad if they can't buy the player. Man City stepping in merely avoided the legal tussle which is not going to benefit either club.That one can't prove as so far nothing in the records shows any impropriety.
The City/ Sociedad case is blatant n worse than the Chelsea/Vitesse case cos City is clearly funding the player n is so upfront n bold. Football shouldn't close one eye on this n it shld trigger some investigation at the very least.
City being rich, if they don't mind helping out, I really do not see any issue that merit investigation
Don't see any issue..in fact the player may be just a collateral for the loan
https://www.theguard...hampions-league
actually both already admitted there was a loan....
Good link! I was not aware of this. Then this is also not correct n shldnt be allowed.
Some of u feel it's perfectly OK for this arrangement ie loan n the City/Sociedad tie up, I guess it's up to the individual n their tolerance level. I suppose if the authorities are fine with it, I got no say then.
I am also fine with what man city is doing...
Don't see any issue..in fact the player may be just a collateral for the loan
City is in the Football business Leh not money lending right?
Have u ever wondered Why Sociedad don't borrow thru the normal means?
Hmm, what if it is Real Sociedad who approached City for help? Also, for this case, it is at most a contractual dispute between Maldonado and Real Sociedad if they can't buy the player. Man City stepping in merely avoided the legal tussle which is not going to benefit either club.
City being rich, if they don't mind helping out, I really do not see any issue that merit investigation
Maybe I'm being too suspicious but I don't believe a FC would lend another FC money with nothing in return and anyway as I mentioned, Football is a sport, not a money lending business so why can't Sociedad go to the bank n ask for a loan?
Good link! I was not aware of this. Then this is also not correct n shldnt be allowed.
Some of u feel it's perfectly OK for this arrangement ie loan n the City/Sociedad tie up, I guess it's up to the individual n their tolerance level. I suppose if the authorities are fine with it, I got no say then.
City is in the Football business Leh not money lending right?
Have u ever wondered Why Sociedad don't borrow thru the normal means?
Maybe I'm being too suspicious but I don't believe a FC would lend another FC money with nothing in return and anyway as I mentioned, Football is a sport, not a money lending business so why can't Sociedad go to the bank n ask for a loan?
Guess they max out liao and they are not Madrid or barca..
Likely man city has no money lending license thus the transfer was crafted so creatively
To me, can help just help but in match don't kelong can liao.... those outside of match like transfers, if want give priority to man city I no issue
Guess they max out liao and they are not Madrid or barca..
Likely man city has no money lending license thus the transfer was crafted so creatively
To me, can help just help but in match don't kelong can liao.... those outside of match like transfers, if want give priority to man city I no issue
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some more, alot of those in football clubs know each other maybe from pass working experience at another club.
even if take loan in cash, they might be able to give better loans then bank.
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only when u got no where to turn to, then u turn to banks.
Balotelli linked to a move to CSL but have to complete before today as it is their transfer deadline
I feel impelled to give plaudits to Martin skrtel for his years of service to LFC.
He has gone through ups and downs during his stay and eventually came back stronger to prove many critics wrong.
Bye Martin and I wish you well, be it here or Fenerbah�e.
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same here. Thanks for the memories Skrtel. Those headed goals during the run-in games for the title in 2013-14 will stick forever in our memories. �We will choose to forget those wrestling moments in our own penalty box :p
Fingers crossed.
Balotelli linked to a move to CSL but have to complete before today as it is their transfer deadline
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Balotelli linked to a move to CSL but have to complete before today as it is their transfer deadline
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Edited by Jamesc, 15 July 2016 - 04:05 PM.
All these people lending money and paying for players on loan... whereas my only concern is if Ars�ne will buy another striker... thinking about this and next season is giving me heartburns
While vardy decided to stay, 2 of their most impt players deciding to leave. Gd game liao la. Vardy n leicester will not enjoy next season
if wat the manager and club doing is correct , those players that want to leave.
should just cash in on them.
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with those money i am sure they will be able to get other replacement that suit the manager style.
if wat the manager and club doing is correct , those players that want to leave.
should just cash in on them.
they are all nobody b4 they go to leicester, after only 1 season, make a 10x profit.
good business.
with those money i am sure they will be able to get other replacement that suit the manager style.
I think they already got in the replacement for Kante and Mendy.
West Brom also came in with a bid of �9m for Schlupp. If he is sold, might have impact on Pool chasing Chilwell.
I think they already got in the replacement for Kante and Mendy.
West Brom also came in with a bid of �9m for Schlupp. If he is sold, might have impact on Pool chasing Chilwell.
Mendy as the replacement for Kante I mean.
The transfer soap opera of Zielinski should end liao, according to his agent, his mind is made but will only be talking to the clubs involved after his holidays.
http://paisleygates.com/?p=28304
Mendy as the replacement for Kante I mean.
The transfer soap opera of Zielinski should end liao, according to his agent, his mind is made but will only be talking to the clubs involved after his holidays.
http://paisleygates.com/?p=28304
i think kante moving a a big risk, after all he only play in epl 1 season.
should take up a better contract and stay , if he perform as well this season and shine in the C.L
who knows , RM might come knocking.
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instead he go chel and miss out on C.L .
i think kante moving a a big risk, after all he only play in epl 1 season.
should take up a better contract and stay , if he perform as well this season and shine in the C.L
who knows , RM might come knocking.
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I am absolutely overjoyed to come to chelsea.He went for the money
As a kid i always wished for christmas to wear the famous blue shirt of chelsea. Esp with the embossment of gavin peacock n david rocastle.
Its every boys dream to emultate their success
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Doubt so yet.... not much rumours on this link yet.Marseille winger Georges-Kevin Nkoudou's move to Tottenham Hotspur is 99% done.
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But then a typical poch signing.... potential good player.. raw.
Tats y i doubt poch will wan2 sign gotze
Good news .... for both parties !
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I agree with Kante's decision, most of them go for money, so what CL football for him, is he is damn good, he can play anywhere he wanted, his is till young, not every prof footballer likes to play in CL . My 0.03cts
Making hay now is better than playing in CL football, if he perform well for Chelsea or even at any club football levels is great.
Obviously money is an attraction but frankly, Kante stands a better chance of success with Chelsea next season over Leicester who I doubt will even finish in the top 4 next season with their UCL commitments etc. So too me he sacrifices 1 yr of UCL Football for a chance of playing UCL consistently over the next 4 Seasons or so as he is playing with better players at Chelsea.
Good Luck to Leicester n may they prove me wrong!
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Doubt so yet.... not much rumours on this link yet.
But then a typical poch signing.... potential good player.. raw.
Tats y i doubt poch will wan2 sign gotze
Gotze is returning to BVB. The link with Spurs I don't think is true also. Probably agent faking it to try to negotiate a better contract with BVB.
Obviously money is an attraction but frankly, Kante stands a better chance of success with Chelsea next season over Leicester who I doubt will even finish in the top 4 next season with their UCL commitments etc. So too me he sacrifices 1 yr of UCL Football for a chance of playing UCL consistently over the next 4 Seasons or so as he is playing with better players at Chelsea.
Good Luck to Leicester n may they prove me wrong!
3 key players to Leicester's success last season.
Kante winning possession, Mahrez executing the counter, Vardy finishing the chance.
If both Kante and Mahrez are off, unlikely Leicester can replicate last season's success
3 key players to Leicester's success last season.
Kante winning possession, Mahrez executing the counter, Vardy finishing the chance.
If both Kante and Mahrez are off, unlikely Leicester can replicate last season's success
Fully agreed on the 3 pillars of Leicester's success last season. Even if Mahrez stays, losing Kante is like losing a battery so it is a big blow to them unfortunately.
BTW, Everton is crazy to ask �50mil + Bony for Stones. �50mil alone possibly since City paid thereabouts for Sterling last season but surely Bony is worth �15mil to �20mil at the very least?
Carrot head also not until like that mah haha
is that temporary young english centre back released?
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heard that gomez is injured again? paper player again.....
Kolo released. Skrtel sold. Sakho and Gomez both injured. Ilori joining Portugal Olympic team. Left Lovren and Matip to start seasonY do they need to sign a 30yr old back up player? Don they hv enuf cover?
Yes, Gomez suffered a setback from ACL. But this time round is Achilles' tendon I think.is that temporary young english centre back released?
heard that gomez is injured again? paper player again.....
Which young English CB?
Edited by Osprey23, 18 July 2016 - 08:28 AM.
Kolo released. Skrtel sold. Sakho and Gomez both injured. Ilori joining Portugal Olympic team. Left Lovren and Matip to start season
Yes, Gomez suffered a setback from ACL. But this time round is Achilles' tendon I think.
Which young English CB?
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guess the current injury situation forced Klopp's hand. �Matip also limped out of the game yesterday and there may reasonable doubts whether he can start every game week in week out.�
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getting a back up CB is ok since he will be largely a squad player. Matip, Lovren and Sakho looks like they are contenders for the 1st team when they are fit. ��
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Gomez is not a ready CB even when fit. I feel that he has to ply the trade of a full-back for a couple more season until he is more mature and physically bulked up for the harshness of EPL... �
Which young English CB?
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Andre Wisdom, I think.
Another target that no jornos picked up until now when it is close.
Liverpool to sign Ragnar Klavan from Augsburg as defensive cover this week. 30-year-old cb. �4m-ish [Paul Joyce]
Joyce also reported that Liverpool have targeted Newcastle's Georginio Wijnaldum and will look to complete a deal that could cost �20million. If true, meaning Pool have really given up on Zielinski
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I know Wijnaldum scored against Pool before, but when i watched Newcastle after Rafa took over, i got the impression that he wasn't good, let alone great...�
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Did i miss anything? At��20million�some more...
Wisdom still with us. Played as RB for the second half. Don't think he is good enough to stand in for Clyne. Defensively ok but can't really push forward to support attack. Pace in FBs are crucial in Klopp system imo.Andre Wisdom, I think.
Didn't watch enough Newcastle games last season. But I guess when club in relegation fight, everyone will be affected some way or another.I know Wijnaldum scored against Pool before, but when i watched Newcastle after Rafa took over, i got the impression that he wasn't good, let alone great...
Did i miss anything? At �20million some more...
Rafa keen to do the deal. Dropped Wijnaldum from friendlies liao, possibly wrapped in cotton wool now
Rafa might want to get one youngster on loan as part of the deal. Not sure who he fancies.As for the price, just like in the case of Mane, I not too worried about overpaying. Importantly is Klopp getting who he wants.
Hehe, before anyone think that I am living the dream of having a sugar daddy owner, may I just clarify. Overpaying for player I am more ok because it is an one time cost and amortised over the length of the player's contract. It is paying high wages I am against. It is a recurring cost and most important, a huge stumbling block when trying to shift a player. Benteke is one good example. �32.5m we can still recoup quite a bit. His �140kpw, not sure if Palace is even willing to consider
Edited by Osprey23, 18 July 2016 - 09:02 AM.
Kolo released. Skrtel sold. Sakho and Gomez both injured. Ilori joining Portugal Olympic team. Left Lovren and Matip to start season
Yes, Gomez suffered a setback from ACL. But this time round is Achilles' tendon I think.
Which young English CB?
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may not be an englishman, my bad.
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he played few games as sub as was brought in last season as a backup CB. Not wisdom though.
may not be an englishman, my bad.
he played few games as sub as was brought in last season as a backup CB. Not wisdom though.
Oh Caulker. Ya, he was sent home before last season ended I think.
Wisdom still with us. Played as RB for the second half. Don't think he is good enough to stand in for Clyne. Defensively ok but can't really push forward to support attack. Pace in FBs are crucial in Klopp system imo.
Didn't watch enough Newcastle games last season. But I guess when club in relegation fight, everyone will be affected some way or another.
Rafa keen to do the deal. Dropped Wijnaldum from friendlies liao, possibly wrapped in cotton wool now
As for the price, just like in the case of Mane, I not too worried about overpaying. Importantly is Klopp getting who he wants.
Hehe, before anyone think that I am living the dream of having a sugar daddy owner, may I just clarify. Overpaying for player I am more ok because it is an one time cost and amortised over the length of the player's contract. It is paying high wages I am against. It is a recurring cost and most important, a huge stumbling block when trying to shift a player. Benteke is one good example. �32.5m we can still recoup quite a bit. His �140kpw, not sure if Palace is even willing to consider
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erh, i am not sure whether these newcastle midfielders are any good for pool. first, it was sissoko now it is this Wijnaldum � The way newcastle played in the past will beg the question how these midfielders will fit in pool's game.�
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I think if these players are like 4th or 5th choice down the wanted list, I will prefer Klopp to make the most of its current players like henderson and Allen. �I dun see how these replacement players are better than them to be honest. �
may not be an englishman, my bad.
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he played few games as sub as was brought in last season as a backup CB. Not wisdom though.
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oh yes its caulker....
Sissoko is pure paper speculation I believe. Very shortly after it surfaced, a few Pool based jornos shot it down. Wijnaldum I believe is an alternative to Zielinski. We are done with the nonsense from Udinese.erh, i am not sure whether these newcastle midfielders are any good for pool. first, it was sissoko now it is this Wijnaldum The way newcastle played in the past will beg the question how these midfielders will fit in pool's game.
I think if these players are like 4th or 5th choice down the wanted list, I will prefer Klopp to make the most of its current players like henderson and Allen. I dun see how these replacement players are better than them to be honest.
With the failure to get Dahoud (unless miracle happens), Klopp might be holding back is 4-2-3-1 for another season. Wijnaldum will probably contest with Milner, Hendo, Can and Grujic for the 3 in a 4-3-2-1. Allen and Lucas likely will depart.
Let's see how this goes.
Edited by Osprey23, 18 July 2016 - 09:57 AM.
Sissoko is pure paper speculation I believe. Very shortly after it surfaced, a few Pool based jornos shot it down. Wijnaldum I believe is an alternative to Zielinski. We are done with the nonsense from Udinese.
With the failure to get Dahoud (unless miracle happens), Klopp might be holding back is 4-2-3-1 for another season. Wijnaldum will probably contest with Milner, Hendo, Can and Grujic for the 3 in a 4-3-2-1. Allen and Lucas likely will depart.
Let's see how this goes.
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feel we should give allen another go instead of splashing cash. Allen played exceedingly well in the euros and proved that he can be one of the better midfielders around. �
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anyway, I am with you bro in terms of supporting klopp whatever his final decision is ...�
i feel that if they hv to sell, it should b either allen or lucas. both of them will give their all when called upon. lucas has been an excellent servant to the club, longest serving current player. the club needs this kind of player, who identifies with what the club is all abt.
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allen on the other hand has improved leaps n bounds in the recent months, with the recent euro evidence of what he is all abt.�
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it will b a shame to lose them both, n not knowing what the club can get fm the new players.
feel we should give allen another go instead of splashing cash. Allen played exceedingly well in the euros and proved that he can be one of the better midfielders around.
anyway, I am with you bro in terms of supporting klopp whatever his final decision is ...
For Allen, Klopp wants him to stay, just like most of us. However, it will be down to whether Klopp can offer him regular starting berth. Allen wants to leave primarily because of this.
So is this team considered Klopp's team or still not yet...
to be fair, a manager needs 2 summer transfer windows to somewhat assemble "his" team. 1 is hardly enough.
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http://www.telegraph...naldum-as-jurg/
Return to BVB will be best for him toe recover his form n reputation.Gotze is returning to BVB. The link with Spurs I don't think is true also. Probably agent faking it to try to negotiate a better contract with BVB.
On paper he din do too bad in munich. 30 plus goals in 90 plus games for a midfielder is pretty good stats actually.
to be fair, a manager needs 2 summer transfer windows to somewhat assemble "his" team. 1 is hardly enough.
Agree but some managers might be able to do it in one window if they are given unlimited funds. :)
Else, will take 2 or more windows.
Return to BVB will be best for him toe recover his form n reputation.
On paper he din do too bad in munich. 30 plus goals in 90 plus games for a midfielder is pretty good stats actually.
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he needs to find a club where he can play regularly. �he is too young to sit on the bench week in week out at BM.
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due to his coloured history including scoring a WC final goal, his head is abit swelled at the moment... just need to get back on earth and do what decent footballers do.. play...�
he needs to find a club where he can play regularly. �he is too young to sit on the bench week in week out at BM.
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due to his coloured history including scoring a WC final goal, his head is abit swelled at the moment... just need to get back on earth and do what decent footballers do.. play...�
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i think he is mentally not there yet..
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look at his instagram looks like he is more vain than DB7 or CR but his level not here not there...
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Tats y i tink hes not the poch kind of player.i think he is mentally not there yet..
look at his instagram looks like he is more vain than DB7 or CR but his level not here not there...
Poch likes raw talent who can be nutured and not the finished product though its good to have a has been superstar in your team
Sorry have to differ from some of you guys, I like Georginio Wijnaldum though I do agree 20mil sounds ex but the market is overall inflated so that's the going rate.
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He is different from Allen who is more�of a creator and Lucas who is more of a pure DM. This guy more all rounder with good technical skill, work rate and can score goals so would bring a different dimension to Pool. Actually I also rate Sissoko though 30mil is ridiculous. Why they didn't seem good at Newcastle is that overall the�Magpies are a poor team esp in defence so even put�Messi in the Toon team and he will look ordinary. I remember JM ever mentioned Wijnaldum is good enough to get into the Chelsea team as well!!��
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Agree but some managers might be able to do it in one window if they are given unlimited funds. :)
Else, will take 2 or more windows.
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LVG was given 4 window and unlimited funds.
He got thrown out of the window before his 5th comes...
Dat useless fella LVG - 4 window- get back into UCL and won FA cup nia..
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Dis is Klopp 2nd window ya, so let see what Klopp army will achieve after 4th window...
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Fully agreed on the 3 pillars of Leicester's success last season. Even if Mahrez stays, losing Kante is like losing a battery so it is a big blow to them unfortunately.
BTW, Everton is crazy to ask �50mil + Bony for Stones. �50mil alone possibly since City paid thereabouts for Sterling last season but surely Bony is worth �15mil to �20mil at the very least?
Carrot head also not until like that mah hahaAnd Argentina have very good players.
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All their first team are international players.
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Same situation at Belgium. Man U also has
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very good players but LVG just never got the
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With or without World class players, football is still play with 11 vs 11.
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Agreed that football is a team game and that's what I meant that Messi alone (IMO)�can't lift a poor�Newcastle despite his obvious talent and anyway this�was brought into the discussion purely to justify Sissoko and Wijnaldum"s contribution (or lack of) to Newcastle ie if even Messi�can't lift Newcastle what more Sissoko and Wijnaldum?
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Anyway, I've made my�call on the 2 Newcastle guys and it's left to be seen whether they do move and�become good buys or not which was the point of the post.
If Man U comes in for Allen, I think we should
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let him go for an obscene amount of money.
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After all they can offer him European football
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and as we have all seen he is very good playing
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If Man U comes in for Allen, I think we should
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let him go for an obscene amount of money.
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and as we have all seen he is very good playing
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Man United got so many midfielders so I'm surprised they want Allen.�
Anyway, I don't see Allen accepting this move cos unlikely he will get a regular starting berth but then again in football, anything can happen.
Agreed that football is a team game and that's what I meant that Messi alone (IMO) can't lift a poor Newcastle despite his obvious talent and anyway this was brought into the discussion purely to justify Sissoko and Wijnaldum"s contribution (or lack of) to Newcastle ie if even Messi can't lift Newcastle what more Sissoko and Wijnaldum?
Anyway, I've made my call on the 2 Newcastle guys and it's left to be seen whether they do move and become good buys or not which was the point of the post.
yup, end of the day, the player must fit in and form a team. If that team cannot function, put in 11 WC players also will relegate.
Contribution wise, based on numbers alone, I think Wijnaldum definitely contributed his fair share in terms of goals and assists.
I definitely not against the signing. In fact I won't mind paying more to help an old friend at Newcastle to rebuild his team
Very interesting also to note that so far whenever Klopp missed out on his first choice, he splashed on the alternatives. Dembele -> Mane, Zielinski -> Wijnaldum. I am now hoping he misses out on Chilwell too. Lol
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Man United got so many midfielders so I'm surprised they want Allen.�
Anyway, I don't see Allen accepting this move cos unlikely he will get a regular starting berth but then again in football, anything can happen.
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But he is so much better than all the rest.
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He is even better than Pogba and that's not
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yup, end of the day, the player must fit in and form a team. If that team cannot function, put in 11 WC players also will relegate.
Contribution wise, based on numbers alone, I think Wijnaldum definitely contributed his fair share in terms of goals and assists.
I definitely not against the signing. In fact I won't mind paying more to help an old friend at Newcastle to rebuild his team
Very interesting also to note that so far whenever Klopp missed out on his first choice, he splashed on the alternatives. Dembele -> Mane, Zielinski -> Wijnaldum. I am now hoping he misses out on Chilwell too. LolChilwell -> Hector haha!!
Actually that Portuguese LB Raphael Guerrero caught my eye at the Euros, good spot by Dortmund!!
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Haha good spot bro
Allen had a good tournament and is a good player, just that he needs a run of games to show his true worth!! Start, stop won't do him or his club any good I feel.
Chilwell -> Hector haha!!
Actually that Portuguese LB Raphael Guerrero caught my eye at the Euros, good spot by Dortmund!!
Haha good spot bro
Allen had a good tournament and is a good player, just that he needs a run of games to show his true worth!! Start, stop won't do him or his club any good I feel.
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Haha good spot bro
Allen had a good tournament and is a good player, just that he needs a run of games to show his true worth!! Start, stop won't do him or his club any good I feel.
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You have convinced me.�
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If Jose offered us 70m we should let him go.
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Taking the No.3 shirt, Sakho offered to sign shirts bearing his name and No.17 for fans
You have convinced me.
If Jose offered us 70m we should let him go.
You guys are really having fun hor...
I seriously dunno how anyone can come up with this rumour. Liverpool will rather play him in U21 than to sanction a deal.
Klopp wants him and Klavan in before the team depart for US
Zlatan�s reply couldn�t be more Zlatan if he tried.
�I admire Cantona. And I heard what he said. But I won�t be King of Manchester. I will be God of Manchester�
Deal for Wijnaldum is moving fast. Reports from Newcastle claiming that he is due on Merseyside soon.
Klopp wants him and Klavan in before the team depart for USHappy and lovin' it. Just like big mac.
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Tottenham consider Clinton N�Jie loan exit with �10.8m Georges-Kevin N�Koudou transfer being finalised
Also mentioned about interest in Wijnaldum but Poch unwilling to match Newcastle's asking price
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wear this to direct traffic? Such is the luminous green.
Deal for Wijnaldum is moving fast. Reports from Newcastle claiming that he is due on Merseyside soon.
Klopp wants him and Klavan in before the team depart for US�
wonder how Klopp will play Wijnaldum if he joins. he seems to be another of those attacking midfielders. �The forward line is quite flushed with attackers on the list - Fiminho, coutinho, lallana, Mane. �other players like Origi, Miner, Markovic all also capable of playing there too.
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if he comes, I expect at a minimum for Markovic to leave...�
wear this to direct traffic? Such is the luminous green.
Lol good idea. Might not have much chance to wear it for the team. Probably away to Bournemouth
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wonder how Klopp will play Wijnaldum if he joins. he seems to be another of those attacking midfielders. The forward line is quite flushed with attackers on the list - Fiminho, coutinho, lallana, Mane. other players like Origi, Miner, Markovic all also capable of playing there too.
if he comes, I expect at a minimum for Markovic to leave...
Best thing about Wijnaldum is that even Rafa is unsure about his best role and position.
Depending on Klopp but I believe Wijnaldum can be used as any of the 3 behind the striker in a 4-2-3-1 or any of the 3 across the midfield in a 4-3-2-1. He is that versatile apparently.
If Lucas and Allen leaves as expected, Wijnaldum could be used deeper imo.
Markovic's future remains a mystery. Jornos mainly are of the view that he is surplus to requirement but there is also whispers that the coaching teams see potential in him.
http://www.liverpool...klavan-11629987
He will be thrilled then to be part of the squad to start the season at Emirates
Best thing about Wijnaldum is that even Rafa is unsure about his best role and position.
Depending on Klopp but I believe Wijnaldum can be used as any of the 3 behind the striker in a 4-2-3-1 or any of the 3 across the midfield in a 4-3-2-1. He is that versatile apparently.
If Lucas and Allen leaves as expected, Wijnaldum could be used deeper imo.
Markovic's future remains a mystery. Jornos mainly are of the view that he is surplus to requirement but there is also whispers that the coaching teams see potential in him.�
he doesnt come across to me as a central midfielder to be honest. He likes to dribble and get into goal scoring position. a forward position might suit him better. that's my limited view based on my video clips lol..
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http://www.dailymail...ob-Holding.html
Mentioned about Arsenal's interest before. Wenger I guess still planning for Arsenal's long term. Top man
he doesnt come across to me as a central midfielder to be honest. He likes to dribble and get into goal scoring position. a forward position might suit him better. that's my limited view based on my video clips lol..
I feel we should give Markovic a chance. i see potential in him.
We didn't get enough goals from midfield last season and I think Klopp is trying to address that.
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Arsenal signing Rob Holding
http://www.dailymail...ob-Holding.html
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Yes... fits with our new team motto...
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But please please please... can't he just sign a striker?
everton fans face must be smiling big big this season.
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new manager , new big boss, aiming very high end players this season already.
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everton fans face must be smiling big big this season.
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new manager , new big boss, aiming very high end players this season already.
You are right that they are aiming high with names like Witsel, Mata and Bony being mentioned but so far they only signed Dutch goalie Maarten Stekelenburg.
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They also trying to get Leicester's Steve Walsh as their DoF, failing which Jordi Cruyff has been mentioned. All well and good as shows commitment by their new investor but it also shows that even with money, it's not easy to attract players. Limited supply of good players unfortunately.
everton fans face must be smiling big big this season.
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new manager , new big boss, aiming very high end players this season already.
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Btw any Everton fan here?�
http://m.thenorthern...rpool_interest/
According to the Northern Echo, Liverpool and Newcastle are still miles apart in term of the fee.
http://m.thenorthern...rpool_interest/Prices between parties will converge as we approach 31 August 2016. Now still early days for selling clubs to ask for the moon and beyond. ��
Prices between parties will converge as we approach 31 August 2016. Now still early days for selling clubs to ask for the moon and beyond.
Klopp doesn't want to wait that long. He wants the transfers sort out before leaving for USA tour.
Klavan... missing one A for my fav whisky.. keke
Everton are preparing a �30m move for Sporting Lisbon midfielder William Carvalho.
[Daily Mirror]
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Btw any Everton fan here?�
still waiting for some big boss to see up leeds. haiz.
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if any boss take over, and bring leeds back to epl. I promise to buy all their jersey
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I swear man .
Klopp doesn't want to wait that long. He wants the transfers sort out before leaving for USA tour.
Yes, pushing very hard on this deal now. Media reporting no bid yet is correct as both clubs are trying to trash out the fee before formal bid. Newcastle might want Flanno and Lucas, according to some reports.
Klavan's medical later.
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60m?.... no thanks... even Man U got $$ to burn also not gonna happen...
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Agree that Joe Allen got a good campaign at the Euro.... is more like he(& everyone in the Wales team) has over-perform at the Euro as it was a rare opportunity for Wales to finally take part in such a tournament & they all gasp it with both hands & legs
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Spurs closing in onto their third signing
still waiting for some big boss to see up leeds. haiz.
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if any boss take over, and bring leeds back to epl. I promise to buy all their jersey
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I swear man .
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You are leeds supporter? I thought Leeds was bought by a Italian?�
Stoke City have made an official �20m bid for West Brom striker Saido Berahino. (Source: Sky Sports)
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Stoke City have made an official �20m bid for West Brom striker Saido Berahino. (Source: Sky Sports)
�I read Stoke wants Robin van Persie??
Glad to hear Kante has moved to bigger club. He likes blue colour it seems.
Any big names going to MLS?
Glad to hear Kante has moved to bigger club. He likes blue colour it seems.�
He's doing that (like blue) to show his National coach. Being politically correct�
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Giroud on the other hand not impressing on that front...
https://www.theguard...pogba-juventus?
Won't do in a midfield 2 but certainly fit the wide role of a midfield 3, usually LCM. His powerful runs and dribbles from deeper position will be useful, in terms of transition and also as a goal scoring threat. The player most difficult for defense to pick up is one that runs from deep.
We didn't get enough goals from midfield last season and I think Klopp is trying to address that.
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Newcastle demanding a lump sum payment for Wijnaldum.
http://www.liverpool...y-lump-11634269
Looks like everyone trying to eat Pool ....
Don't buy lah ...
Looks like everyone trying to eat Pool ....
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Juventus wants �100m for Pogba. Will only deal if Pogba wants the move
https://www.theguard...pogba-juventus?�
Happy that ManU want to pay 100m for Pogba. Especially knowing that they let him go for free
well after all the hoo haa.
mahrez might be staying after all.
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He's had a fantastic season. Wish we can swap Walcott plus cash for him
looks like Mourinho is enhancing his unwanted reputation of short term success by going to sell the Man Utd youngsters to make room for the new established players he's buying
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The pictures say it all, either 2 years or�3years, cannot be 8 years right?�
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Refused to increase more money for Proba in the current 100 million pound...
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http://m.thenorthern...more_uncertain/
�25m agreed according to report, structure of payment the sticking point. No player from Liverpool in the deal
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Juventus have rejected Manchester United's �100m bid for Paul Pogba. They want �120m. (Source: Eurosport)
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That is really silly money to splash out on Pogba. Watched him during the Euro. Nothing fantastic. In fact the only player from the French team that caught my eye was Kante.�
Juventus have rejected Manchester United's �100m bid for Paul Pogba. They want �120m. (Source: Eurosport)
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So Man U trying to be the Real/Barca of EPL?
That is really silly money to splash out on Pogba. Watched him during the Euro. Nothing fantastic. In fact the only player from the French team that caught my eye was Kante.
Actually Payet n Griezmann also played well for France n caught the eye as well besides Kante. Pogba played deeper than where he shld be playing n hence couldn't stand out but I do agree �100mil is ridiculousJuventus have rejected Manchester United's �100m bid for Paul Pogba. They want �120m. (Source: Eurosport)
Great news, according to L'Equipe, Man Utd have agreed to pay �120m for Pogba.
Great news, according to L'Equipe, Man Utd have agreed to pay �120m for Pogba.
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Great news, according to L'Equipe, Man Utd have agreed to pay �120m for Pogba.
Noooooooo!!!!!!!!! I really hope Im wrong, but pogba will be the most expensive flop ever in the history of football.....
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Not such a great news. Though no official confirmation, ie, MU has not notified the Stock Exchange, but it is all over the news and tabloids that Pogba deal IS done.
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Not sure if it works out to be a deal that makes sporting and commercial senses, but as some journalists had pointed out, MU makes a big statement of intent. Maybe for the 1st time in history that RM shied away from a bidding war with an English club, mainly due to the price tags given out by MU right from the beginning.
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Now it's MU will get its man, if it wants to. Step aside and eat your hearts out! RM, BM, Bacca, MC & Chelsea. The rest are not worth mentioning in the same breadth or sentence. My bad, no offences and thousand apologies.
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Of course ball is round so anything can happen and he has gotten the sack before.
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That said, their team looking much stronger than last season on paper at least so now up to the new signings to settle in and for JM�to impart his philosophy onto the team and for them to buy into it quickly. I believe he should have learnt from his setback last season and directors like Charlton will ensure his antics are kept to the minimum so I believe they will do well next season.
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For me its a case of who is throwing the money. If it is wenger or feguson then I am all for it because they always put the club first. Same goes to Klopp too. The special one I dont trust him because he is into himself and himself only. He doesnt care about the club at all. All he cares is how great himself is and as long as he has success. Yes the chairman and directors are partly at fault for allowing it but if the manager put the club first, he will reject spending this kind of money if it means the club's future is at risk.
But hor, if JM wants glory and immediate success, that suits Man Utd too. He being successful meaning club is successful.
Perfect match
I just checked out his Wiki.
5 of the named players, 3 transferred to Man United in this window,
Huat, Huat, and Huat ah!�
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Bao nobody wants. Cos the agent busy making big $$ from selling other players under him to those who are willing to pay big $$.
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Actually i think Balo scored hat trick against ManU before? Should ask the Raiola guy to peddle Balo to ManU too... we lose a bit, sell at 15m lah...
No more Philosophy preash
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His philosophy of putting pressure on refs, expecting midfielders to track back, parking the bus when necessary, siege mentality and more. If you are tired of LvG's philosophies, you haven't seen anything yet haha.
But hor, if JM wants glory and immediate success, that suits Man Utd too. He being successful meaning club is successful.
Perfect match�
I am thinking more like both are scums and a**holes hence perfect match�
Paul Joyce (The Express) reporting Wijnaldum 25M deal is done and he will join Pool on their tour...�
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dun noe whether to be happy or sad... �
I'm still waiting for Pool to buy a striker ... hmmm.
that's why I'm a fan of football and not any football clubs
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other the matches, it's also fun to see rival club fans quarrelling with each others, kelong refereeing, Messi v Ronaldo best player debate, minnows upsetting giants, etc
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Its always amusing watching people put other clubs/teams down, especially over the internet.�
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Anybody can call himself a fan of a club. Other than your (minuscule) donation in the form of a jersey or some merchandise purchase, the success of the club has absolutely nothing to do with you.�
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But hey, its quite entertaining and its not ever going to go away, so flame on!�
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Could this be true? Arsenal want Mauro Emanuel Icardi Rivero. Via . http://1.ftb.al/zNTc/DaLwWOiobv
So much "Class" shown lately in this thread... wow...
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I think quite possible. From what I read Higuain and Morata are the top 2 choices but their clubs asking for the sky. Icardi more affordable and more value as he is younger and smells of Wenger kind of signing all day, good luck!!
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true... 62m for Morata rejected and Napoli want to meet release clause of 72m for Higuain...
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Not that this deal at 42m is any cheap also... but I think this is better than swap Giroud plus cash for Higuain... I like Giroud... hope they sell Walcott instead�
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Nowadays, no more chances for Wenger to buy at 2-10m and sell at 20-25m... those days are long gone.
true... 62m for Morata rejected and Napoli want to meet release clause of 72m for Higuain...
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Not that this deal at 42m is any cheap also... but I think this is better than swap Giroud plus cash for Higuain... I like Giroud... hope they sell Walcott instead�
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Nowadays, no more chances for Wenger to buy at 2-10m and sell at 20-25m... those days are long gone.
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Wenger likes Giroud so no way he will be traded in. Anyway, I believe the striker Gunners are after is to supplement Giroud and not replace him.
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Morata is a good player but nowhere near 60mil even in this inflated market. Higuain I don't really fancy�cos his conversion rate is no where near where�a player of his caliber should be at though he is a marque player and Argentina 1st choice striker and age against him as well.
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Icardi could be the answer but I've not seen much of him to comment but he seems to be the nippy kind of striker which could complement the stronger Giroud.
I just signed a 2 year extension with Singtel after the recent Manyoo acquisitions (I'm a manyoo fan). Hope makes people irrational
Worth extending lah, next season will be exciting. Even I am tempted lol
Wenger likes Giroud so no way he will be traded in. Anyway, I believe the striker Gunners are after is to supplement Giroud and not replace him.
Morata is a good player but nowhere near 60mil even in this inflated market. Higuain I don't really fancy cos his conversion rate is no where near where a player of his caliber should be at though he is a marque player and Argentina 1st choice striker and age against him as well.
Icardi could be the answer but I've not seen much of him to comment but he seems to be the nippy kind of striker which could complement the stronger Giroud.
How to complement when he is a 4-2-3-1 manager? Change his tactics in his final season? Quite unlikely imo
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I would like to say Man U got a very good player in Pogba.
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How to complement when he is a 4-2-3-1 manager? Change his tactics in his final season? Quite unlikely imo
What I mean is sometimes you don't need a big striker or he is getting nowhere against�equally big defenders so on comes a nippy striker like Icardi** to bring a different dimension to the team by using his pace, being at the shoulder of the last man etc something like Defoe.�Gunners don't really have an alternative now though Walcott is supposed to be but I'm on record here as saying he is not a striker IMO.
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**Disclaimer: Ive not seen Icardi much to say he is a Defoe but he looks like one.
I would also like to say 37 m for Mane and 27 m for Whatshisname
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like Mr Wenger? For me I would rather have these silly money players.
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What I mean is sometimes you don't need a big striker or he is getting nowhere against equally big defenders so on comes a nippy striker like Icardi** to bring a different dimension to the team by using his pace, being at the shoulder of the last man etc something like Defoe. Gunners don't really have an alternative now though Walcott is supposed to be but I'm on record here as saying he is not a striker IMO.
**Disclaimer: Ive not seen Icardi much to say he is a Defoe but he looks like one.
Ok. My take is that if Wenger really splash on Icardi, Giroud likely to be benched.
If ManU spend so much now and can't qualify for UCL after 2016/17 season, will JM get the sack ....
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Lol, this had happened last season' isn't it?� Leicester City and Tottenham Hotspurs occupying 2 slots from the UCL...
I would also like to say 37 m for Mane and 27 m for Whatshisname
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like Mr Wenger? For me I would rather have these silly money players.
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Well said James, me too!
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We are football fans so obviously we want better players to give our teams a better chance of success. Will these players be better? I don't know but like most fans, I have an opinion but more importantly it is my club Mgr whose opinion matters most and so I expect the Club Board to support him. Money in the bank doesn't benefit me the fan though of course it is needed for club sustainability I fully understand. Cheers!!
Ok. My take is that if Wenger really splash on Icardi, Giroud likely to be benched.
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You could be right but I feel Giroud will still be first choice if Icardi comes. Higuain n Morata, those 2 may replace him if they were bought though. Let's see and bodes for an exciting season ahead with so many comings n goings and a possible World record fee being paid.
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JM holding a press conference now in China and he is warning Juve that United may move to other targets if they dither. Typical straight talking Jose haha.
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http://www.mirror.co...ce-live-8461281
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You could be right but I feel Giroud will still be first choice if Icardi comes. Higuain n Morata, those 2 may replace him if they were bought though. Let's see and bodes for an exciting season ahead with so many comings n goings and a possible World record fee being paid.
JM holding a press conference now in China and he is warning Juve that United may move to other targets if they dither. Typical straight talking Jose haha.
http://www.mirror.co...ce-live-8461281
Juventus stalling? I thought report saying bid accepted?
Juventus stalling? I thought report saying bid accepted?
No its not finalised yet. Apparently Juve is holding out (prolly for more money?). But I think the deal will go though
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can anyone teach me how to pronounce his bladdy name ?
wee-na-dum ?
Not too sure bro but I think you should be quite close
I would also like to say 37 m for Mane and 27 m for Whatshisname
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Better spend and bring in ppl, rather than don't spend ...
Looks like the French papers really jumping the gun.
to be frank although we all say its crazy and waste of money for man u to pay 100m and ++ for pogba
deep in our heart we wish our club would do some thing like this LOL.
some club got money , but simply love to see them sitting in the banks ( we all know who ).
while other cannot afford. haiz..
Who? Liverpool ar?
can anyone teach me how to pronounce his bladdy name ?
wee-na-dum ?
Why-Nor-Derm
Must stop living in the past..lol
So much "Class" shown lately in this thread... wow...
wahahahahaha,
None shown more than you it seems. Muahahaha
Why pool fans like to say wenger niao... past 4 seasons he paid above 30m and 40m for outfield players and cech at 10m is like top 10 most expensive keeper of all time
Must stop living in the past..lol
Is more like reputation I guess. If one per season, then he used his quota on Xhaka liao.
Top class striker still crucial for Wenger I feel. But even if he is willing to spend, not many available at reasonable price.
For once, our blue neighbours have moved ahead of us in one aspect.
Ok. My take is that if Wenger really splash on Icardi, Giroud likely to be benched.
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Juventus stalling? I thought report saying bid accepted?
Pogba's agent posted in social media nothing done yet so looks like more drama.
Juventus greedy I feel though it's their prerogative cos �100mil is unheard of to get for a single player as surely he isn't worth 3x Kante?
http://www.mirror.co...-united-8463631
Pogba's agent posted in social media nothing done yet so looks like more drama.
Juventus greedy I feel though it's their prerogative cos �100mil is unheard of to get for a single player as surely he isn't worth 3x Kante?
http://www.mirror.co...-united-8463631
Seriously don't think the issue is with Juventus. They are more than willing to sell at that price. Pogba wise, I am not sure. Hearing two versions but since I don't have reliable source on Man Utd, I won't know which is more accurate.
I don't really understand ah seng's thinking, Giroud had played very well for france Euro cup, yet back to epl, he will not be first choice striker in arsenal team.
If he see Icardi bery up, then it must has certain truth in him, for all i care Arsenal has to sell 1st in order to slurp. that is their mentality.
Remb last season when Arsenal fans were holding up banner behind the Arsenal's bench, indicating " Buy Buy Buy " Arsenal hierarchy has such a manager who firmly believe in Ah Seng, and not any ordinary ah seng.
I believe I shared before. Arsenal created the highest number of goal scoring chances last season but the goal conversion rate is low. Base on this alone, the striker will surely take the bulk of blame.
Seriously don't think the issue is with Juventus. They are more than willing to sell at that price. Pogba wise, I am not sure. Hearing two versions but since I don't have reliable source on Man Utd, I won't know which is more accurate.
You could be right that it's Pogba that is hesitating so perhaps I'm jumping the gun to say Juve greedy!
Wijnaldum is currently at Melwood doing medical. Will join up with the squad in US after all the formalities
Neil Jone Echo reported that Gini Wijnaldum will have a medical on Merseyside tomorrow, before flying out to join the team in America. Deal is agreed. �23m plus �2m addons
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Why pool fans like to say wenger niao... past 4 seasons he paid above 30m and 40m for outfield players and cech at 10m is like top 10 most expensive keeper of all time
Must stop living in the past..lol40,000,0001 for cannibal
Man Utd got their God. City answer with getting Jesus.
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Very reliable journalist Gerard Romero says Gabriel Jesus is heading to Manchester City.
Man Utd got their God. City answer with getting Jesus.
I believe I shared before. Arsenal created the highest number of goal scoring chances last season but the goal conversion rate is low. Base on this alone, the striker will surely take the bulk of blame.
He have truly train the team to assist and not to shoot. Just ask Henry y he have to pass that PK to his team mate instead of shooting it :)
How many Jesuses City need? Already got one Jesus Navas still not enough?
Because citeh don't know who is the real messiah so they try to sign as many as they can
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Its about time referee takes action on players abusive language and pointing fingers at them ..... �
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Yahoo : Red cards for referee abuse introduced as Premier League tackles 'intolerable behaviour'
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The Premier League, English Football League and Football Association have outlined new laws to target "intolerable behaviour" in English football.
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Beginning this season, red cards will now be issued to players who aim offensive or abusive language or gestures at referees during matches.
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Yellow cards will be shown to any player who runs to confront an official about a decision, while a referee may book at least one player if they are surrounded by two or more team-mates.
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Behaviour in technical areas will also be more strictly enforced as part of the plans to curb poor conduct, which the Premier League claims has reached "unacceptable levels".�
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The highest number of yellow cards accrued by one team for dissent in the Premier League last season was West Brom, who picked up nine.
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"We and our clubs have been discussing for some time concerns that certain elements of player behaviour are overstepping the mark and it is our collective position that these types of behaviour should no longer be tolerated," said Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore.
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Bacca is holding out for Sevilla, his preferred destination over West Ham.
Joe Allen has yet to decide if he wants a move to Stoke, who already has a bid accepted by Liverpool
You could be right that it's Pogba that is hesitating so perhaps I'm jumping the gun to say Juve greedy!
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Bro, based on what I read in the various papers, I believe manyoo, Juve and Pogba have all agreed the fees and salary.
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The hold-up�was due to the fee payable to the greedy agent, Mino Raiola. Manyoo do not want to pay his full 18m fee and want to split with Juve, but Juve do not want to pay a cent to Raiola. If you read Raiola's tweet yesterday, he told the media the transfer was not done yet, followed by a "bla bla bla". He wanted the football word to know his agent fee was not resolved yet I think.
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Bro, based on what I read in the various papers, I believe manyoo, Juve and Pogba have all agreed the fees and salary.
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The hold-up�was due to the fee payable to the greedy agent, Mino Raiola. Manyoo do not want to pay his full 18m fee and want to split with Juve, but Juve do not want to pay a cent to Raiola. If you read Raiola's tweet yesterday, he told the media the transfer was not done yet, followed by a "bla bla bla". He wanted the football word to know his agent fee was not resolved yet I think.
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Mino did not ask for more just because it is Man Utd. His agent fee is made known, and that makes Real Madrid think twice and left the table.
Bro, based on what I read in the various papers, I believe manyoo, Juve and Pogba have all agreed the fees and salary.
The hold-up was due to the fee payable to the greedy agent, Mino Raiola. Manyoo do not want to pay his full 18m fee and want to split with Juve, but Juve do not want to pay a cent to Raiola. If you read Raiola's tweet yesterday, he told the media the transfer was not done yet, followed by a "bla bla bla". He wanted the football word to know his agent fee was not resolved yet I think.
Tks for the info bro! Goes to show its not easy to conclude a transfer as a lot of money n people involved. Easy for us fans to say pay abit more, don't be tight fisted etc which I'm particularly guilty of haha.
Anyway, I believe it Shld be concluded one way or other n u guys looking very strong indeed. BTW, u have indirectly funded this transfer via your MIO TV subscription lolIf I recalled, Lovren, Lucas, Ings?
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Of these, I can understand why Lucas -- he's the most longest-serving and was captain on a few occasions in last season and in the past. So it's like an obligation if he's playing when the designated ones are not. But we all know there's a chance he might move, and even if he doesn't, he is unlikely to be an automatic starter.�
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Lovren... Tot there were criticism of his command of the defence esp before mid-season of 15/16, and that back in Southampton, it was Fonte who was the leader... Did he fare well?
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Ings: i suspect he was captain only because the whole team was made up of youngsters or new-comers?
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Wonder who will be the new captain candidate, and who can really command respect...
Of these, I can understand why Lucas -- he's the most longest-serving and was captain on a few occasions in last season and in the past. So it's like an obligation if he's playing when the designated ones are not. But we all know there's a chance he might move, and even if he doesn't, he is unlikely to be an automatic starter.�
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Lovren... Tot there were criticism of his command of the defence esp before mid-season of 15/16, and that back in Southampton, it was Fonte who was the leader... Did he fare well?
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Ings: i suspect he was captain only because the whole team was made up of youngsters or new-comers?
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Wonder who will be the new captain candidate, and who can really command respect...
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Yes, usually Ings is a 2nd half sub, replacing Firmino as lone striker. First half Klopp will usually put his prefer starting. As for Lovren, he played on the left side of centre defence with Matip on his right. I saw him played a lot of direct balls forward while Matip tried to push forward with the ball.�
None shown more than you it seems. Muahahaha
Nah.. subjective. There's a diff between bantering and insulting, aniwae, thanks for your comments. NEXT... LOL
I don't really understand ah seng's thinking, Giroud had played very well for france Euro cup, yet back to epl, he will not be first choice striker in arsenal team.
If he see Icardi bery up, then it must has certain truth in him, for all i care Arsenal has to sell 1st in order to slurp. that is their mentality.
Remb last season when Arsenal fans were holding up banner behind the Arsenal's bench, indicating " Buy Buy Buy " Arsenal hierarchy has such a manager who firmly believe in Ah Seng, and not any ordinary ah seng.
Last 2 seasons who he sold before he buy?
40,000,0001 for cannibal
Still better than 35m for andy carroll....lol
Of these, I can understand why Lucas -- he's the most longest-serving and was captain on a few occasions in last season and in the past. So it's like an obligation if he's playing when the designated ones are not. But we all know there's a chance he might move, and even if he doesn't, he is unlikely to be an automatic starter.
Lovren... Tot there were criticism of his command of the defence esp before mid-season of 15/16, and that back in Southampton, it was Fonte who was the leader... Did he fare well?
Ings: i suspect he was captain only because the whole team was made up of youngsters or new-comers?
Wonder who will be the new captain candidate, and who can really command respect...
Lovren although improved under Klopp, I am still not convince he is a leader. Probably only BR thinks he is.
If I can have a say, will give it to Sakho.
Still better than 35m for andy carroll....lol
How to compare? One is a grossly insulting bid that was rejected and the other is a desperate move to secure a replacement.
How many Jesuses City need? Already got one Jesus Navas still not enough?
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Jesus we need a goal so the manager
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This is really a good signing for them. Many top clubs eyeing Boufal but none has made a concrete offer.
Lucas is attracting interest from Galatasary. Reported a �2.5m offer has been made.
Lovren although improved under Klopp, I am still not convince he is a leader. Probably only BR thinks he is.
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Sigh... sad if Lucas were to go, and sadder that he's attracting so low bid...
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I too still have my reservation about Lovren. See if he'll change my opinion.
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What? you want to make Sakho the Prime Minister?
Sigh... sad if Lucas were to go, and sadder that he's attracting so low bid...
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I too still have my reservation about Lovren. See if he'll change my opinion.
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What? you want to make Sakho the Prime Minister?
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Lucas is attracting interest from Galatasary. Reported a �2.5m offer has been made.
Lovren although improved under Klopp, I am still not convince he is a leader. Probably only BR thinks he is.
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Agree. I will choose Sakho too as Captain. If not it will Can. But Sakho is really a natural leader and he is not the youngest PSG captain for nothing.�
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In UK, only got prime minister lah, only in France then got president lor...
Agree. I will choose Sakho too as Captain. If not it will Can. But Sakho is really a natural leader and he is not the youngest PSG captain for nothing.�
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But i still a bit worried about him leh. Guess i cannot get out of my system the way his body contorts when he kicks the ball, and the way he used to put teammates under pressure by releasing a desperate pass only when he himself under pressure... I would have sold him instead of making him captain, if he hasn't played better in the last 2 seasons...
But i still a bit worried about him leh. Guess i cannot get out of my system the way his body contorts when he kicks the ball, and the way he used to put teammates under pressure by releasing a desperate pass only when he himself under pressure... I would have sold him instead of making him captain, if he hasn't played better in the last 2 seasons...
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His style is really unorthodox, thats all I can say
How to compare? One is a grossly insulting bid that was rejected and the other is a desperate move to secure a replacement.
Still cost more from ngiao piow arsenal as compared to generous pool
Nah.. subjective. There's a diff between bantering and insulting, aniwae, thanks for your comments. NEXT... LOL
If I was Everton I would go for Mata.
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He is very good but unloved by Jose.
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If I was Everton I would go for Mata.
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He is very good but unloved by Jose.
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They are waiting for lelong sales leh...
Once Pogba deal is sealed, ManU have to sell in order to cover back the burnt hole..
This is where lelong sales start...
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If I was Everton I would go for Mata.
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He is very good but unloved by Jose.
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Does Conte rate him? Maybe can consider go back Chelski since his nemesis not there anymore??
wat the hell for??? they hv karius n mignolet. n then let bogdan go on loan......n then sign an old man??
Does Conte rate him? Maybe can consider go back Chelski since his nemesis not there anymore??
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wat the hell for??? they hv karius n mignolet. n then let bogdan go on loan......n then sign an old man??
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wat the hell for??? they hv karius n mignolet. n then let bogdan go on loan......n then sign an old man??
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Does Conte rate him? Maybe can consider go back Chelski since his nemesis not there anymore??
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Chelsea have a lot of midfielders (Oscar, Willian, Hazard amongst others) and for the playmaker role which Mata favours, they already have Fabregas whose own position is said to be shaky so don't see how he can go back.
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I rate Mata for his strengths of being creator and scorer of goals but I guess in the modern context of midfielders where they are expected to do tracking and cover of ground, he is lacking in these depts and hence he�maybe better off at�clubs whose expectations of a creator are not so demanding.
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That said, JM has clarified that Mata has a place in his squad but no guarantees of first X1 place. Personally, I would keep him if I were JM cos his creative skills could open up tight defences�in�certain games and I don't see a similar player in the current United squad.���
Yup experience and stability.
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Still cost more from ngiao piow arsenal as compared to generous pool
In recent years, Arsenal certainly is spending more. Focus on one big signing to improve the squad. This is the right way to do it when the spine of the team is already there. This can only be achieved when there is stability and continuity as well.
Pool are spending but even record fee of �35m is lesser than Arsenal's. We have been transiting and wasting stupid money due to managerial changes every 1-3 years.
I have a feeling Wenger will go all out for a striker in this summer.
Then i suggest we sign this guy instead�
I don't see how the defender can stop him from heading the ball... With his size, even if botak was around to do wrestling, also might not stop him�
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In recent years, Arsenal certainly is spending more. Focus on one big signing to improve the squad. This is the right way to do it when the spine of the team is already there. This can only be achieved when there is stability and continuity as well.
Pool are spending but even record fee of �35m is lesser than Arsenal's. We have been transiting and wasting stupid money due to managerial changes every 1-3 years.
I have a feeling Wenger will go all out for a striker in this summer.�
I tot he already bought?
That jap guy?�
Should be a case closed for that position for this transfer market liao.
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Help gunner to save another handsome money.
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In recent years, Arsenal certainly is spending more. Focus on one big signing to improve the squad. This is the right way to do it when the spine of the team is already there. This can only be achieved when there is stability and continuity as well.
Pool are spending but even record fee of �35m is lesser than Arsenal's. We have been transiting and wasting stupid money due to managerial changes every 1-3 years.
I have a feeling Wenger will go all out for a striker in this summer.�
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I tot he already bought?
That jap guy?�
Should be a case closed for that position for this transfer market liao.
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wat the hell for??? they hv karius n mignolet. n then let bogdan go on loan......n then sign an old man??
Bogdan knows he will not even be in the squad on match days so request to leave. Ward has to go out loan to develop.
Haha quick sign him up. If we need a last minute goal
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wat the hell for??? they hv karius n mignolet. n then let bogdan go on loan......n then sign an old man??
Bogdan has no future with us liao. Ward and Fulton both loaned out to gain first team experience.
Manninger signed as 3rd choice is ok imo. Don't think he is asking much on the wage front as well
In recent years, Arsenal certainly is spending more. Focus on one big signing to improve the squad. This is the right way to do it when the spine of the team is already there. This can only be achieved when there is stability and continuity as well.
Pool are spending but even record fee of �35m is lesser than Arsenal's. We have been transiting and wasting stupid money due to managerial changes every 1-3 years.
I have a feeling Wenger will go all out for a striker in this summer.
I am sure he has been looking for a striker past 2 reasons but either the asking price is crazy or the player is not interested
Paying 20+m for vardy was already something not associated with the old wenger
I tot he already bought?
That jap guy?
Should be a case closed for that position for this transfer market liao.
Help gunner to save another handsome money.
I mean he is likely to splash big on a big name striker. That Jap boy I don't think fit the bill leh. Unless Wenger really found a gem hidden in the Far East that escaped everyone's eyes
I mean he is likely to splash big on a big name striker. That Jap boy I don't think fit the bill leh. Unless Wenger really found a gem hidden in the Far East that escaped everyone's eyes
Asia now is the new untapped market,.not sure how good asians will be though
I am sure he has been looking for a striker past 2 reasons but either the asking price is crazy or the player is not interested
Paying 20+m for vardy was already something not associated with the old wenger
Sometimes just have to bite the bullet and pay the silly money for once if the player is suited and interested to join. Arsenal consistently in UCL and in London, already in advantage when compared to clubs like Liverpool liao
In recent years, Arsenal certainly is spending more. Focus on one big signing to improve the squad. This is the right way to do it when the spine of the team is already there. This can only be achieved when there is stability and continuity as well.
Pool are spending but even record fee of �35m is lesser than Arsenal's. We have been transiting and wasting stupid money due to managerial changes every 1-3 years.
I have a feeling Wenger will go all out for a striker in this summer.�
I do acknowledge that there is no necessity to buy just for the sake of buying nor does big signings necessarily means better players coming in than what you already have.
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IMO, the trouble with Arsenal/Wenger was that there were quite obvious shortcomings in the squad last season (or maybe lack of cover is the better term) notably DM, Striker and CB. Wenger insisted that what he already had was sufficient.
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When Coq became injured, much needed steel was lost. When Giroud stop scoring, the chances created couldn't be finished consistently. For CB, Koscielny was good but he could get injured, sent off etc and Mertesacker and Gabriel had their shortcomings.
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In short, there were opportunities to buy albeit at inflated prices but Wenger refused to buy and that was why Gunners fans got frustrated and not as if they were short of $. He has since bought a DM in Xhaka so the other 2 positions if filled would definitely boost their squad and give them�a great chance at a title shot.
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All's fine and well to buy potential for the future and this I respect Wenger for his scouting and ability to spot talent and give them chances but fans want silverware now, not waiting for potential to bear fruit later, my 2 cents.
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I am sure he has been looking for a striker past 2 reasons but either the asking price is crazy or the player is not interested
Paying 20+m for vardy was already something not associated with the old wenger
If Wenger knock at yr door, I think lei also sian 1/2.
That y lei rather up Vardy wages
I think his kpi is to spot talent , groom them and sell for a profit.I do acknowledge that there is no necessity to buy just for the sake of buying nor does big signings necessarily means better players coming in than what you already have.
IMO, the trouble with Arsenal/Wenger was that there were quite obvious shortcomings in the squad last season (or maybe lack of cover is the better term) notably DM, Striker and CB. Wenger insisted that what he already had was sufficient.
When Coq became injured, much needed steel was lost. When Giroud stop scoring, the chances created couldn't be finished consistently. For CB, Koscielny was good but he could get injured, sent off etc and Mertesacker and Gabriel had their shortcomings.
In short, there were opportunities to buy albeit at inflated prices but Wenger refused to buy and that was why Gunners fans got frustrated and not as if they were short of $. He has since bought a DM in Xhaka so the other 2 positions if filled would definitely boost their squad and give them a great chance at a title shot.
All's fine and well to buy potential for the future and this I respect Wenger for his scouting and ability to spot talent and give them chances but fans want silverware now, not waiting for potential to bear fruit later, my 2 cents.
He have no intention to win any championship at all.
May no.4 is his own championship title ba :)
I do acknowledge that there is no necessity to buy just for the sake of buying nor does big signings necessarily means better players coming in than what you already have.
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IMO, the trouble with Arsenal/Wenger was that there were quite obvious shortcomings in the squad last season (or maybe lack of cover is the better term) notably DM, Striker and CB. Wenger insisted that what he already had was sufficient.
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When Coq became injured, much needed steel was lost. When Giroud stop scoring, the chances created couldn't be finished consistently. For CB, Koscielny was good but he could get injured, sent off etc and Mertesacker and Gabriel had their shortcomings.
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In short, there were opportunities to buy albeit at inflated prices but Wenger refused to buy and that was why Gunners fans got frustrated and not as if they were short of $. He has since bought a DM in Xhaka so the other 2 positions if filled would definitely boost their squad and give them�a great chance at a title shot.
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All's fine and well to buy potential for the future and this I respect Wenger for his scouting and ability to spot talent and give them chances but fans want silverware now, not waiting for potential to bear fruit later, my 2 cents.
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I really respect Wenger that he won't buy at inflated prices.
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But he never seems to complain when he sells at inflated
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If Vardy got an agent like Pogba and a club like Baca or Manu chasing him, no 60m no talk man.
If Wenger knock at yr door, I think lei also sian 1/2.
That y lei rather up Vardy wages
I think his kpi is to spot talent , groom them and sell for a profit.
He have no intention to win any championship at all.
May no.4 is his own championship title ba :)�
Coming 4th is just like winning a Cup.
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That chap in the photo is apparently�Kristof Van Hout - Tallest Soccer Player�
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At 2.08 m, if he can dive well, penalty kicks ask him play, chances of losing to City in league cup final would be greatly reduced... stretch out max, likely the fingers leave no gaps from the goal posts... maybe 'jake tio' cos hit the posts�
Sometimes just have to bite the bullet and pay the silly money for once if the player is suited and interested to join. Arsenal consistently in UCL and in London, already in advantage when compared to clubs like Liverpool liao
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Yup, it is a bidding war, if Arsene Wegner fails to see that, Arsenal will have more to lose when they eventually miss out on the UCL...� Even though they had not missed out on UCL under Arsene Wenger's reign, there is always a first...
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I do acknowledge that there is no necessity to buy just for the sake of buying nor does big signings necessarily means better players coming in than what you already have.
IMO, the trouble with Arsenal/Wenger was that there were quite obvious shortcomings in the squad last season (or maybe lack of cover is the better term) notably DM, Striker and CB. Wenger insisted that what he already had was sufficient.
When Coq became injured, much needed steel was lost. When Giroud stop scoring, the chances created couldn't be finished consistently. For CB, Koscielny was good but he could get injured, sent off etc and Mertesacker and Gabriel had their shortcomings.
In short, there were opportunities to buy albeit at inflated prices but Wenger refused to buy and that was why Gunners fans got frustrated and not as if they were short of $. He has since bought a DM in Xhaka so the other 2 positions if filled would definitely boost their squad and give them a great chance at a title shot.
All's fine and well to buy potential for the future and this I respect Wenger for his scouting and ability to spot talent and give them chances but fans want silverware now, not waiting for potential to bear fruit later, my 2 cents.
He bought xhaka to replace rosicky, arteta and flamini..... 1 for 3..... worth it mah...lol
I really respect Wenger that he won't buy at inflated prices.
But he never seems to complain when he sells at inflated
prices. Knowing Wenger he will probably just say
he didn't see that properly and was distracted looking
at something else. He is just like my MIL - got selective
hearing and vision.
Who did he sell for inflated price?
Then i suggest we sign this guy instead
I don't see how the defender can stop him from heading the ball... With his size, even if botak was around to do wrestling, also might not stop him
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Who did he sell for inflated price?�
Emmanuel Adebayor
Cost: �25 million to Manchester City, July 2009�
Kolo Toure (behind)
Cost: �16m to Manchester City, July 2009
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Samir Nasri
Cost: �25m to Manchester City, August 2011�
Alexander Hleb
Cost: �12m to Barcelona, July 2008�
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Alex Song��15,000,000
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Cesc F�bregas��35,000,000
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Thierry Henry��16,100,000
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Patrick Vieira��13,700,000
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Marc Overmars��25,000,000
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Nicolas Anelka��23,000,000 1999
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Actually if they need a keeper, Migs is available.
Everton hands off players from Leicester with Walsh's appointment
Actually if they need a keeper, Migs is available.�
Also, if they sell Lukaku, just buy his buddy Benteke lor. Don't even need to move house.
And if they are ambitious and want 2 strikers, we can throw in Balo�
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Everyone happy. Don't say we no take care of them...
Emmanuel Adebayor
Cost: £25 million to Manchester City, July 2009
Kolo Toure (behind)
Cost: £16m to Manchester City, July 2009
Samir Nasri
Cost: £25m to Manchester City, August 2011
Alexander Hleb
Cost: £12m to Barcelona, July 2008
Alex Song
£15,000,000
Cesc Fábregas
£35,000,000
Thierry Henry
£16,100,000
Patrick Vieira
£13,700,000
Marc Overmars
£25,000,000
Nicolas Anelka
£23,000,000 1999
That keeper shouldn't be allowed to go pass the half field. Is there an unfair competition act in EPL?
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Wah, you break his rice bowl...
Later he go outside UK MOM to kneel on the road to complain then you know...
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[Lee Ryder, The Chronicle]
Under Klopp, not just the leaks are stopped. Low balling habit also no more.
Edited by Osprey23, 22 July 2016 - 07:16 PM.
Swansea considering Allen bid
Let the bidding war start�
13,000,001 pounds
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Yup experience and stability.
No sure how many top class keepers
waiting to sign for Liverpool as their
3rd choice keeper. If anyone knows
any keeper better than old Mann please
faster telephone Klopp and recommend
to him. Don't know why Pool so kancheong
to sign Klopp for 7 years when MCF have
so many expert football managers here.
Don't even need to be on the bench
Literally get paid for nothing
13,000,001 pounds
Arsene Wenger style bidding.
He's getting his third player this summer , what an achievement!!
I think his target is 4 players this summer :)
Rob Holding becomes Arsenal's third signing of the summer, joining Switzerland midfielder Granit Xhaka and Japan forward Takuma Asano.
Life not gonna be easy for u to get paid for doing nothing .3rd choice keeper is the best deal
Don't even need to be on the bench
Literally get paid for nothing
Just like paying u a salary to stay in office for doing nothing, I can't survive man :p
Stop laughing at him la .
He's getting his third player this summer , what an achievement!!
I think his target is 4 players this summer :)
Rob Holding becomes Arsenal's third signing of the summer, joining Switzerland midfielder Granit Xhaka and Japan forward Takuma Asano.
Life not gonna be easy for u to get paid for doing nothing .
Just like paying u a salary to stay in office for doing nothing, I can't survive man :p
But I'm a tough guy, so I think I'll be able to tahan if hired as 3rd choice keeper for poolYep it will be hard
But I'm a tough guy, so I think I'll be able to tahan if hired as 3rd choice keeper for poolMourinho:"Some people prefer to play against lower quality teams and win to get confidence out of it."
Tuchel:"You have problem with that?"
Just a banter. Agree totally with JM that friendly result not important and Dortmund is clearly more advanced in their preparation.lvg win all their friendly when he first go man u.
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wat happen when the season starts.
lvg win all their friendly when he first go man u.
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wat happen when the season starts.
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Gunner won treble in pre-season !!
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Mourinho:"Some people prefer to play against lower quality teams and win to get confidence out of it."
Tuchel:"You have problem with that?"
Just a banter. Agree totally with JM that friendly result not important and Dortmund is clearly more advanced in their preparation.JM said he wants to win everything.
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So losing to Dortmund means something. A loss is still a loss.
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His last spell at Chelsea was an unexpected disaster.
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How come a smart alec like him can't see it coming? haha
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How long he last in Man U is uncertain for sure.
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Palmieras have earlier accepted a bid of �32m from Man City and Man Utd have now entered the race and willing to pay �35m for the player.
Globo Esporte reported that Manchester United are trying to convince Gabriel Jesus to join them with Jos� Mourinho making a personal phone call to the player.
Palmieras have earlier accepted a bid of �32m from Man City and Man Utd have now entered the race and willing to pay �35m for the player.
Last week, I read of a Gabriel Barbosa from Santos aka Gabigol and that some European teams after him as he's dubbed the next Neymar! Played in the Copa as sub n now there's a Gabriel Jesus! So many similar name Brazilian youngsters n all supposedly the next best thing! All out to carrot the European clubs!
Dortmund is tearing Man Utd apart....
In other transfer news, Ben Chilwell is likely to extend contract with Leicester. Pool has to look elsewhere now.
Jordan Amavi likely the target now.�
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Last week, I read of a Gabriel Barbosa from Santos aka Gabigol and that some European teams after him as he's dubbed the next Neymar! Played in the Copa as sub n now there's a Gabriel Jesus! So many similar name Brazilian youngsters n all supposedly the next best thing! All out to carrot the European clubs!
Gabigol is a huge talent. Might not be the next Neymar as most people following Brazilian league are saying he is better than Neymar when he was at his age. Barcelona has first refusal on Gabigol and apparently they aren't buying him now. Juventus is the only club negotiating with Santos. EPL clubs can forget about it as he has complex ownership situation.
It is good to learn now than being torn part in competition, always remb this is a friendly match, don't sweat on it
Agree. Preseason friendlies are mainly for building fitness and for new players to gel. for Man Utd, also for JM to know his squad better.
Agree. Preseason friendlies are mainly for building fitness and for new players to gel. for Man Utd, also for JM to know his squad better.
Agreed.
Same goes for every other clubs too ...
The real fight starts from mid Aug ... And that's where the 3 points are so precious ...
Gunner won treble in pre-season !!
And finished higher than spurs, man c, pool, chelsea and man u...... lol
Agree. Preseason friendlies are mainly for building fitness and for new players to gel. for Man Utd, also for JM to know his squad better.
I also believe this but last season Chelsea didn't win a single pre season friendly or at least those against the bigger teams n this flowed into the season proper and as we all know they nvr recovered.
Whilst it's about building fitness n understanding, the fear is it becomes a spiral as losing like winning becomes a habit n confidence can drop quickly, fingers start pointing etc so United or whichever club has to be careful on this. Worse still is that this year, the prestigious Intercontinental cup is being played across the world against Top club sides n last thing u want is being at the end of a f.ew high profile defeats so beware!!
Sunderland confirm the appointment of David Moyes as its new manager.
The Chosen One is back!!
I wonder why Steve Bruce left Hull City then. As part of Big Sam's England set up?
Edited by Osprey23, 23 July 2016 - 05:29 PM.
Let's hear from Paul Scholes on Pogba: -�
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�For his age, he was asking for far too much money, that too for a player who hasn�t played first team football.
�Okay, he has gone on to great things. I think certainly there has been a lot of improvement. He needed to improve if he is going to be a player worth �86m.
�I just don�t think he is worth �86m. For that sort of money, you want someone who is going to score 50 goals a season like Ronaldo or Messi. Pogba is nowhere worth that kind of money yet.�
The secret to doing nothing in the office�
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Pogba is off then. No way they can pay this type of money
Let's hear from Paul Scholes on Pogba: -�
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�He was a very talented young player, I played with him and I knew how good he was. He played for the first team maybe once or twice, but from my understanding he was asking for too much money.
�For his age, he was asking for far too much money, that too for a player who hasn�t played first team football.
�Okay, he has gone on to great things. I think certainly there has been a lot of improvement. He needed to improve if he is going to be a player worth �86m.
�I just don�t think he is worth �86m. For that sort of money, you want someone who is going to score 50 goals a season like Ronaldo or Messi. Pogba is nowhere worth that kind of money yet.�
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Really agree on this, however, with all the inflated fees that are ongoing now, this would be the norm from future...
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i am kinda surprised that Sir Alex Fergunson did not step in to stop this transfer, if i am the director of Man U, i cannot stomach paying this fee when Juventus poached the youngster from us paying a nominal fee/free transfer...
Really agree on this, however, with all the inflated fees that are ongoing now, this would be the norm from future...
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i am kinda surprised that Sir Alex Fergunson did not step in to stop this transfer, if i am the director of Man U, i cannot stomach paying this fee when Juventus poached the youngster from us paying a nominal fee/free transfer...
Zlatan: "All I'm hearing is Pogba is too expensive, this and that, well, my jersey sales alone will pay for Pogba."
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Eurosport and Canal+ reporting that Arsenal will offer �50m (£42m) for Mahrez and that Leicester will accept.
The Chosen One is back!!
I wonder why Steve Bruce left Hull City then. As part of Big Sam's England set up?
Zlatan: "All I'm hearing is Pogba is too expensive, this and that, well, my jersey sales alone will pay for Pogba."
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Lol, not a surprisingly comment from the "God" of Manchester.... He is really that good though...
Eurosport and Canal+ reporting that Arsenal will offer �50m (�42m) for Mahrez and that Leicester will accept.
I wonder why Steve Bruce left Hull City then. As part of Big Sam's England set up?
As per this article from Guardian, Bruce was frustrated at the lack of signings n he also had a poor relationship with the owner Allam. Allam is an owner who doesn't have the support of the fans n he even wanted to change their name which was eventually overruled. Typical case of owner with his own agenda n he shld hv been supportive of Bruce who brought them back up!
https://www.theguard...uce-leaves-hull
I find it hard to believe that Arsenal would pay this kind of money esp for a wide player which they have an abundance of players in that position like Walcott, Ox, Sanchez etc. We shall see.
Klopp:Wijnaldum can play 5 or 6 positions
His versatility will be an asset.
And a burden.... just like milner
And a burden.... just like milner
Milner is never versatile to start with, hence a burden trying to make him versatile.
Edited by Osprey23, 23 July 2016 - 10:59 PM.
http://www.90min.com...mer?a_aid=40655
Very classy response when asked about the England job as well
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Barcelona director Ariedo Braida has confirmed that the Spanish champions have been priced out of a move for Juventus midfielder Paul Pogba, as his reported move to Manchester United edges closer.
I love Eddie Howe!!
Apparently, his No. 9 shirt was taken away from him without asking or informing him.
I wonder was Januzaj informed when his No 11 shirt was taken away from him.
Liverpool have had a bid accepted for Brad Smith from Bournemouth. Around �6m. (SkySports)
I love Eddie Howe!!
Since he is so nice we give him balotelli for free
I believe Allen will do well for them.
Edited by Osprey23, 24 July 2016 - 08:38 AM.
Since he is so nice we give him balotelli for free
I think send a hamper over can liao.
We buy so many from Southampton they also never give us anyone free
Ah Seng plots 75 mil transfer- albeit for 2 players.
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Gunners fans already took to medias on failure to sign Higuain. If Mahrez snubs Arsenal, it'll be the 2nd players from the little EPL Champion club to snub a big former (or not so recently former) EPL Champion Club in a transfer window.
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Wonder what reactions it will be?
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Meanwhile it was reported that Wolves, under the new chinese owner, may hire Bruce for their push for promotion.
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I think send a hamper over can liao.
We buy so many from Southampton they also never give us anyone free
Because Liverpool is not nice
BVB is on the verged of signing Mario Gomez. Klopp should give them a call to remind them that they shouldn't miss out on the Super Mario.
BVB has now signed 3 current German Internationals if this goes through. Gotze, Schurrle already signed. They rebuilding n I hope to see them do well n challenge BM in Bundesliga.
Ah Seng plots 75 mil transfer- albeit for 2 players.
Gunners fans already took to medias on failure to sign Higuain. If Mahrez snubs Arsenal, it'll be the 2nd players from the little EPL Champion club to snub a big former (or not so recently former) EPL Champion Club in a transfer window.
Wonder what reactions it will be?
Meanwhile it was reported that Wolves, under the new chinese owner, may hire Bruce for their push for promotion.
To be fair, Higuain was going for a ridiculous price n even I who have been critical of Wenger for his tight fist feels this time he is right not to bite. Lacazette n Icardi are more reasonably priced n he shld snap up one of them otherwise he deserves being criticised. As for Mahrez, I still feel its paper talk but it may come true if one or both of Ox n Walcott departs. Otherwise, I don't see how to fit in so many wide players.
I would fight City for Stones even at �50mil if I were Wenger though admittedly it's also silly money but he fits the Arsenal style of play cos he's a ball playing CB, young n English but I Guess it will not happen.
Let's hear from Paul Scholes on Pogba: -�
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�He was a very talented young player, I played with him and I knew how good he was. He played for the first team maybe once or twice, but from my understanding he was asking for too much money.
�For his age, he was asking for far too much money, that too for a player who hasn�t played first team football.
�Okay, he has gone on to great things. I think certainly there has been a lot of improvement. He needed to improve if he is going to be a player worth �86m.
�I just don�t think he is worth �86m. For that sort of money, you want someone who is going to score 50 goals a season like Ronaldo or Messi. Pogba is nowhere worth that kind of money yet.�
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worth at least �150m la
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Ah Seng plots 75 mil transfer- albeit for 2 players.
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Wonder what reactions it will be?
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Meanwhile it was reported that Wolves, under the new chinese owner, may hire Bruce for their push for promotion.
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I've said before... cash plus walcott for Mahrez will be awesome for Arsenal
Ah Seng plots 75 mil transfer- albeit for 2 players.
Gunners fans already took to medias on failure to sign Higuain. If Mahrez snubs Arsenal, it'll be the 2nd players from the little EPL Champion club to snub a big former (or not so recently former) EPL Champion Club in a transfer window.
Wonder what reactions it will be?
Meanwhile it was reported that Wolves, under the new chinese owner, may hire Bruce for their push for promotion.
Seriously, I do not think Higuain is worth that. �94m is crazy money and Juventus are able to do that because of Pogba's sale.
Mahrez' link is not really clear, some doubted it.
Bruce will be a good choice for Wolves.
Looks like Pool really have to dig deep into their list to sign a LB.
Will be a priority now since Brad Smith is to be sold.
Well, sometimes it's not about if the player is right for the club or if he is overpriced. But once if the club announces its intention and kena snubbed, it would not be the best feeling in the world, imho.
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http://www.liverpool...erpool-11655814
FSG 100% backing Klopp. Klavan might not be 4th choice. Manninger will be a good help to Achterberg
I tot brad smith is quite highly rate at pool? How come they wanna sell him?
Australia first choice LB. However, I think �6m is an amount too good to reject. Similar to Ibe, there will be a sell on and buy back clauses inserted.
Personally, I believe pace and ability to provide attacking threats are what Klopp wants in fullbacks. Brad is lacking in both aspects I think. Flanno as well.
surprise brad is to be sold. Not a bad LB if you ask me...
Australia first choice LB. However, I think �6m is an amount too good to reject. Similar to Ibe, there will be a sell on and buy back clauses inserted.
Personally, I believe pace and ability to provide attacking threats are what Klopp wants in fullbacks. Brad is lacking in both aspects I think. Flanno as well.�
Agree mostly with you.
He is good but not to the level of first 11, it will do him more good if he can play regular soccer�
Play finish this season. Still young. Try one more full season then decide which team to join then
Agree mostly with you.
He is good but not to the level of first 11, it will do him more good if he can play regular soccer�
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We have buy back clause, so its actually win win for all parties :)
We have buy back clause, so its actually win win for all parties :)
We will have a forever never buy back clause inserted If we sell balotelli
With the �6m from Brad Smith sale, maybe Pool can meet Leicester asking price of �10m then.
Contract talks between Leicester and Chilwell apparently stalled.
With the �6m from Brad Smith sale, maybe Pool can meet Leicester asking price of �10m then.�
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I hope so ... if Pool thinks Chilwell is good, just spend the 10mil ... you never know how much he will be worth multiple times more when he is superb in his 20s ...
I really hope when Inter gets the �40m - �50m, they can come for Balotelli
https://www.theguard...-pogba-transfer
Juventus insisted that they do not need to sell Pogba to fund Higuain.
Update on Pogba's mega pounds move.
https://www.theguard...-pogba-transfer
Juventus insisted that they do not need to sell Pogba to fund Higuain.�
i will welcome Progba's move to Utd. It will confirm how ridiculous the club has regressed...�
i will welcome Progba's move to Utd. It will confirm how ridiculous the club has regressed...�
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If you call MU ability to throw away 100 mil a player a regression, then it's at best moral one maybe.
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Commercially, MU is set to be the highest revenue earner, surpassing RM & Barca. Regression? Can afford to spend money which makes the rivals green till turn blue with envy a regression? HA
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Sportingly, how MU will perform , only time can tell. But if your club is not MC or Chelski, yours is likely to finish below MU this coming season, according to the Bookie.
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Regression? you made my day. Thank You Very Much. Haven't grinned so much and for so long for awhile.
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arsenal spend 30m-40m a player... they say wenger ngiao
Man u spend 100m on player they say man u desperate
Pool must be bestest liao.... forever rebuilding
Actually some pool fans sometimes funny lar....
arsenal spend 30m-40m a player... they say wenger ngiao
Man u spend 100m on player they say man u desperate
Pool must be bestest liao.... forever rebuildingaiyah....many fans like that la. whatever other clubs doing must b wrong. only their club do is right.�
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but to me, if arse paying 30-40m, means wenger is possessed cos he willing to spend that much money. but gd for the club. if man u spend 100m on a player, gd for them. means later on other fans can say they buy the title. if pool spend 30m n abv for a player, i say they crazy. don hv so much money also willing to throw money away.
If you call MU ability to throw away 100 mil a player a regression, then it's at best moral one maybe.
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Commercially, MU is set to be the highest revenue earner, surpassing RM & Barca. Regression? Can afford to spend money which makes the rivals green till turn blue with envy a regression? HA
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Sportingly, how MU will perform , only time can tell. But if your club is not MC or Chelski, yours is likely to finish below MU this coming season, according to the Bookie.
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Regression? you made my day. Thank You Very Much. Haven't grinned so much and for so long for awhile.
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well, good that at least I made your day :) �
If you call MU ability to throw away 100 mil a player a regression, then it's at best moral one maybe.
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Commercially, MU is set to be the highest revenue earner, surpassing RM & Barca. Regression? Can afford to spend money which makes the rivals green till turn blue with envy a regression? HA
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Sportingly, how MU will perform , only time can tell. But if your club is not MC or Chelski, yours is likely to finish below MU this coming season, according to the Bookie.
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Regression? you made my day. Thank You Very Much. Haven't grinned so much and for so long for awhile.
I praise you for your alternative view which gives food for thot.
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Not necessarily that I agree with your conclusions. All I can say that Alex Fergie had left a huge legacy during his long successful managerial reign in Man U which cannot possibly be replicated in modern footballing era. The past 3~4 years performance had been disappointing and it does show that their financial success does not necessarily translate into footballing success.
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Leicester's unexpected thrust into the top tier of Epl shows that money alone does not guarantee success on the pitch. Look at how Tottenham Hotspur has improved under Pochettino. If Ranieri can do it, why wouldn't Klopp or any less fancied club do it too. The Epl title is no more an entitlement of a few privileged clubs who has a rich sugar daddy.
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My gut feel is that this forum has a higher share of �die hard Pool faithfuls who expressly like to cheer their club in this forum. The active threads here seems to confirm this theory. �
Actually some pool fans sometimes funny lar....
arsenal spend 30m-40m a player... they say wenger ngiao
Man u spend 100m on player they say man u desperate
Pool must be bestest liao.... forever rebuilding
To me, a successful transfer window is not measured by how much you spend. It should reflects how well the incoming players have replaced the outgoing and thus improving the squad.
Pool might be having a negative nett spend this window. Am I disappointed? I don't think so.
Karius is better than Bogdan. Matip is better than Kolo. Klavan is better than Skrtel. Mane is better than Ibe. Wijnaldum is better suited than Allen. Any LB coming in will be better than Enrique.
Hence, if JM feels that he needs Pogba and no one else to improve the midfield, then they just have to pay up the money.
I guess what Bro Fooblack meant to say on the regression, is the ability to better use the funds. Let's put it this way, is Pogba really that out of this world that an alternative that cost less than �120m cannot be found?i believe all of us have the answer.
Edited by Osprey23, 25 July 2016 - 11:50 AM.
At the end if the day we all love this beautiful game. Have a great week ahead :)
Im soo excited for the season to start... spicy....
aiyah....many fans like that la. whatever other clubs doing must b wrong. only their club do is right.
but to me, if arse paying 30-40m, means wenger is possessed cos he willing to spend that much money. but gd for the club. if man u spend 100m on a player, gd for them. means later on other fans can say they buy the title. if pool spend 30m n abv for a player, i say they crazy. don hv so much money also willing to throw money away.
But out of 3 of the past 4 seasons, wenger has paid over 30m for 1.single player
We just enjoy to take a dig at rival clubs, Its common just for laugh only.
At the end if the day we all love this beautiful game. Have a great week ahead :)�
True true, strictly "business".� No (personal) offense intended.
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If so construed, my sincere apologies.
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Actually some pool fans sometimes funny lar....
arsenal spend 30m-40m a player... they say wenger ngiao
Man u spend 100m on player they say man u desperate
Pool must be bestest liao.... forever rebuildingHilarious but damn true.
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Anyone pool sell- player damn jialat
Anyone pool buys- great player with potential and of course value for money
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Anything Klopp say is the bestest correctest..�
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disclaimer: just normal bantering hor
Edited by Getzsfv, 25 July 2016 - 12:10 PM.
But out of 3 of the past 4 seasons, wenger has paid over 30m for 1.single player
Frankly speaking, every clubs have their own strategies in the market. Don't think there is any right or wrong. Financial muscles decide which bracket of players you go for. Richer clubs pay big for stars, less rich clubs go for potential stars.
To me, a successful transfer window is not measured by how much you spend. It should reflects how well the incoming players have replaced the outgoing and thus improving the squad.
Pool might be having a negative nett spend this window. Am I disappointed? I don't think so.
Karius is better than Bogdan. Matip is better than Kolo. Klavan is better than Skrtel. Mane is better than Ibe. Wijnaldum is better suited than Allen. Any LB coming in will be better than Enrique.
Hence, if JM feels that he needs Pogba and no one else to improve the midfield, then they just have to pay up the money.
I guess what Bro Fooblack meant to say on the regression, is the ability to better use the funds. Let's put it this way, is Pogba really that out of this world that an alternative that cost less than �120m cannot be found?i believe all of us have the answer.�
sure... i agree with you too....
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but when the fans that commented.... own club cannot even bear to spend 30-40m now and then call other club manager ngiao when they spend 30-40m........ or other club that spend 100m as desperate....... like slapping own face leh.........
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to me... spending does not equate to ambition... spending for the right player equates to ambition... it does not matter if the price is 1m or 100m
N thats the way it should b. He had saved so much for the club. Its time he spend big. Other than pool, im a fan of arse also cos i like the way they play. Very exciting attacking football. N it is such a waste if they don try to get better big name players n try to win the title.
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aiya.... that was because he was shackled by the stadium debt.... it was only up to 4 years ago that he can spend more and he did .... but even then... arsenal still cannot afford to spend like man u, chelsea or man c....
Hilarious but damn true.
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Anyone pool sell- player damn jialat
Anyone pool buys- great player with potential and of course value for money
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Anything Klopp say is the bestest correctest..�
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disclaimer: just normal bantering hor
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sorry hor... when pool fans want pool sell player is no 50m no talk de.... even if they think player is jialat......they still want sell for sky high price.. �think they use gold price x weight of player x 1000
Edited by Galantspeedz, 25 July 2016 - 12:46 PM.
Hilarious but damn true.
Anyone pool sell- player damn jialat
Anyone pool buys- great player with potential and of course value for money
Anything Klopp say is the bestest correctest..
disclaimer: just normal bantering hor
Thats y i say now is time for him to spend. N 30-40m a season for a really gd player should b the min standard for u guys now.sure... i agree with you too....
but when the fans that commented.... own club cannot even bear to spend 30-40m now and then call other club manager ngiao when they spend 30-40m........ or other club that spend 100m as desperate....... like slapping own face leh.........
to me... spending does not equate to ambition... spending for the right player equates to ambition... it does not matter if the price is 1m or 100m
aiya.... that was because he was shackled by the stadium debt.... it was only up to 4 years ago that he can spend more and he did .... but even then... arsenal still cannot afford to spend like man u, chelsea or man c....
sorry hor... when pool fans want pool sell player is no 50m no talk de.... even if they think player is jialat......they still want sell for sky high price.. think they use gold price x weight of player x 1000
U know y pool fans wan 50m for every player they sell? I bcos the club has no money! So of cos must sell as high as possible. N the fact that they cant compete for other players make it worse. Must keep watever player we hv. Hehehe
Its disgusting how they are shafting
Man U.
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sure... i agree with you too....
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but when the fans that commented.... own club cannot even bear to spend 30-40m now and then call other club manager ngiao when they spend 30-40m........ or other club that spend 100m as desperate....... like slapping own face leh.........
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to me... spending does not equate to ambition... spending for the right player equates to ambition... it does not matter if the price is 1m or 100m
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aiya.... that was because he was shackled by the stadium debt.... it was only up to 4 years ago that he can spend more and he did .... but even then... arsenal still cannot afford to spend like man u, chelsea or man c....
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sorry hor... when pool fans want pool sell player is no 50m no talk de.... even if they think player is jialat......they still want sell for sky high price.. �think they use gold price x weight of player x 1000
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1. Rich people who dont want to pay are ngiao. A poor man is entitled to call them so.
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2. Spending surely equates to ambition leh. if not spend for what? It may be a mistaken belief that it would aid their goal, but it is still ambition.�
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3. Nobody can spend like them lah. Arsenal is lucky to have Wenger, and vice versa. If you dont like what your club is doing, just support another team lah. Then you can mock other people for being poor. Or even better, support leceister.�
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4. Do you want to buy benteke? 40m + 1 can liao, no need 50.�
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No offence hor, banter.�
But out of 3 of the past 4 seasons, wenger has paid over 30m for 1.single player
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Even Mertesacker concerned at�Arsenal lack of transfer activity.....
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http://www.teamtalk....ansfer-activity
Hilarious but damn true.
Anyone pool sell- player damn jialat
Anyone pool buys- great player with potential and of course value for money
Anything Klopp say is the bestest correctest..
disclaimer: just normal bantering hor
Not true leh
Sell Suarez, sell Alonso, you didn't hear Pool fans complain meh?
Signing Benteke and Balotelli, you didn't hear Pool fans questioned meh?
Klopp might not be the best, but he is certainly the bestest for Liverpool. I won't change him for any manager currently alive.
Juve asking for another10m for Pog.
Its disgusting how they are shafting
Man U.
:)wah seh... my heart bleeding leh... still cannot praise you yet
saw his player commit the foul but when asked he
always pretented he didn`t see. At least Mr Wenger
can be truthful about select seeing. I really dont
know why the arsenal fan here cannot be as honest
as Mr Wenger on selective vision on spending.
Just banter hor.
:)
Edited by Jamesc, 25 July 2016 - 01:39 PM.
Klopp might not be the best, but he is certainly the bestest for Liverpool. I won't change him for any manager currently alive.
On a serious note, Klopp has not proven himself yet in the EPL. right now, i think Rafa is still a better pool manager so far...
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we wait at least 2 season and see what he brings.
On a serious note, Klopp has not proven himself yet in the EPL. right now, i think Rafa is still a better pool manager so far...
we wait at least 2 season and see what he brings.
only 2 finals and didn`t win any of them. When he wins
more than Rafa then we can say he is a better manager.
No Pool fan will disagree with you on this.
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Juve asking for another10m for Pog.
Its disgusting how they are shafting
Man U.
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Wait 1 more week, another 10 mil.
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Then 1 week before the window close, no 120m no talk.
Edited by L23, 25 July 2016 - 01:47 PM.
Wait 1 more week, another 10 mil.
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Then 1 week before the window close, no 120m no talk.
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remind me of those thai/china stall owners...... �
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start walking away.. they tell you 100mio ok la... � keep on walking become 86mio... � �
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one more time become 75mio... ��
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cannot be too low becoz they are committed to buying higuain i think ...�
Wait 1 more week, another 10 mil.
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Then 1 week before the window close, no 120m no talk.
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good foresight!!..
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currently seems to be 92M + 18M agent fees + you still want to pay me some more if you wanna drag a few more days!!??..
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LOL...
Bye bye Allen
sure... i agree with you too....
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but when the fans that commented.... own club cannot even bear to spend 30-40m now and then call other club manager ngiao when they spend 30-40m........ or other club that spend 100m as desperate....... like slapping own face leh.........
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im still pissed that AW dint win the title last season!!..
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and i support pool hor..
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no more chance for him this season..
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PS: banter again.. no offence..
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Same also everywhere la. Like how many of man u fans cursed n swear at mourinho when he was at chel. But now he is their saviour n he is wat they need now.
Thats y i say now is time for him to spend. N 30-40m a season for a really gd player should b the min standard for u guys now.
U know y pool fans wan 50m for every player they sell? I bcos the club has no money! So of cos must sell as high as possible. N the fact that they cant compete for other players make it worse. Must keep watever player we hv. Hehehe�
you know why no money because anyhow spend lor....... lol
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i don't think standard should equate to transfer fee........�
1. Rich people who dont want to pay are ngiao. A poor man is entitled to call them so.
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Arsenal and Pool should be on equal terms when it comes to financial ability
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2. Spending surely equates to ambition leh. if not spend for what? It may be a mistaken belief that it would aid their goal, but it is still ambition.�
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anyhow spend does not equate to ambition leh... buying the right player is........ paying 30m for Giroud does not make Arsenal more ambitious
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3. Nobody can spend like them lah. Arsenal is lucky to have Wenger, and vice versa. If you dont like what your club is doing, just support another team lah. Then you can mock other people for being poor. Or even better, support leceister.�
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but now is people mocking others for being rich leh....... lol
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4. Do you want to buy benteke? 40m + 1 can liao, no need 50.�
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is his release clause 40m?
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No offence hor, banter.�
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im still pissed that AW dint win the title last season!!..
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and i support pool hor..
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no more chance for him this season..
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PS: banter again.. no offence..
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every year got chance lar... in fact every club has�2.63157894737% chance
Not true leh
Sell Suarez, sell Alonso, you didn't hear Pool fans complain meh?
Signing Benteke and Balotelli, you didn't hear Pool fans questioned meh?
Klopp might not be the best, but he is certainly the bestest for Liverpool. I won't change him for any manager currently alive.�
On the selling + complain part, add Mascherano to it. If Torres didn't push for the move, and didn't play so badly running up to it, i'll also add him to the list (although the 50 m did help to soften the blow)...
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On signing, there were many more that should complain, until i dunno where to start/end... The Aquilanis, Konchelskys, Carolls, etc. are prime examples....
Or Hodgson for that matter...�
On a serious note, Klopp has not proven himself yet in the EPL. right now, i think Rafa is still a better pool manager so far...
we wait at least 2 season and see what he brings.
Yes, he has not won us anything yet but he has given us an identity and an exciting way of playing football. In a short period of time, he lifted the players and united the fans. He gets the club.
Rafa of course written his name into Pool's history. I respect him a lot but still won't want him ahead of Klopp.
This coming season should see something from him liao. Got in most players he want and a full preseason to prepare.
Even Mertesacker concerned at�Arsenal lack of transfer activity.....
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looking at how the bigger teams has strengthened their squad... i am concerned too.... but even then i don't think i will want wenger to pay 90m euros for higuain....
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i still wondering why xhaka is worth 30+ million... lol
There was one day Mr Wenger admitted he always
saw his player commit the foul but when asked he
always pretented he didn`t see. At least Mr Wenger
can be truthful about select seeing. I really dont
know why the arsenal fan here cannot be as honest
as Mr Wenger on selective vision on spending.
Just banter hor.
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i can see pool fans have learnt well..........�
On the selling + complain part, add Mascherano to it. If Torres didn't push for the move, and didn't play so badly running up to it, i'll also add him to the list (although the 50 m did help to soften the blow)...
On signing, there were many more that should complain, until i dunno where to start/end... The Aquilanis, Konchelskys, Carolls, etc. are prime examples....
Or Hodgson for that matter...
Moores want to exit so that new owner can take us higher. But his decision to sell us to the Cowboys set us back 5 years at least.
Edited by Osprey23, 25 July 2016 - 02:46 PM.
Yes, he has not won us anything yet but he has given us an identity and an exciting way of playing football. In a short period of time, he lifted the players and united the fans. He gets the club.
Rafa of course written his name into Pool's history. I respect him a lot but still won't want him ahead of Klopp.
This coming season should see something from him liao. Got in most players he want and a full preseason to prepare.�
do you think klopp can bring pool to UCL qualification this season?
looking at how the bigger teams has strengthened their squad... i am concerned too.... but even then i don't think i will want wenger to pay 90m euros for higuain....
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i still wondering why xhaka is worth 30+ million... lol
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I also support the move not to buy Higuain cos he's no where worth near that price which is the second highest transfer fee ever (2nd only to Bale). But surely Icardi, Lacazette or some International class striker shld be bought.
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Just wondering if Bony would be a good buy but he's somewhat similar to Giroud whereas a nippy second striker like Griezmann would have been a perfect choice but sadly for u guys, he's untouchable.
Yes, he has not won us anything yet but he has given us an identity and an exciting way of playing football. In a short period of time, he lifted the players and united the fans. He gets the club.
Rafa of course written his name into Pool's history. I respect him a lot but still won't want him ahead of Klopp.
This coming season should see something from him liao. Got in most players he want and a full preseason to prepare.�
To be honest, with the current corps of players, i don't see how they can't get into top 4.
Those players he gotten so far like all used to play in the mid table team leh..�
No world class type..
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Where is Torres, Suz and Gerrard�
I can't remember any striker scoring more than 20 goals in recent years..
With this goals return, how can they go on and get top 4?
Haiz, Woy was gotten in to be the lap dog to the cowboys who are facing financial crunch and trying to refinance the loan to keep hold of the club. They cannot have a manager who is opposing them openly.
Moores want to exit so that new owner can take us higher. But his decision to sell us to the Cowboys set us back 5 years at least.�
I sometimes wonder where Pool would be if the cowboys didn't buy the club, and a better owner came in...
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For that matter, how would the team be if later Peter Lim bought it instead�
To be honest, with the current corps of players, i don't see how they can't get into top 4.
Those players he gotten so far like all used to play in the mid table team leh..�
No world class type..
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Where is Torres, Suz and Gerrard�
I can't remember any striker scoring more than 20 goals in recent years..
With this goals return, how can they go on and get top 4?
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I think the solid Dortmund team he made also didn't have any world class players scoring >20 goals a season initially leh...
I also support the move not to buy Higuain cos he's no where worth near that price which is the second highest transfer fee ever (2nd only to Bale). But surely Icardi, Lacazette or some International class striker shld be bought.
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Just wondering if Bony would be a good buy but he's somewhat similar to Giroud whereas a nippy second striker like Griezmann would have been a perfect choice but sadly for u guys, he's untouchable.
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i dunno what is wenger criteria is in buying a player or how he comes up with a valuation, i only read that there is a psychological test involved..
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griezmann will be good as you can see the pairing between Giroud and Griezmann
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For icardi and lacazette, i think it really depends on the price since other leagues club knows BPL is flush with money now.... but once you start overpaying... it is gonna be a recurring thing........... a good example will be man u..... even though they can afford it....
do you think klopp can bring pool to UCL qualification this season?
Quietly confident. No Europe will be an advantage.
Just hope the rest of the English teams fly the England flag high high in Europe this season
i dunno what is wenger criteria is in buying a player or how he comes up with a valuation, i only read that there is a psychological test involved..
griezmann will be good as you can see the pairing between Giroud and Griezmann
For icardi and lacazette, i think it really depends on the price since other leagues club knows BPL is flush with money now.... but once you start overpaying... it is gonna be a recurring thing........... a good example will be man u..... even though they can afford it....
He was linked to spurs back then. When lamela was useless back then and spurs would like a winger. Lloris even recommended him to spurs but din worked out then unfortunately
To be honest, with the current corps of players, i don't see how they can't get into top 4.
Those players he gotten so far like all used to play in the mid table team leh..
No world class type..
Where is Torres, Suz and Gerrard
I can't remember any striker scoring more than 20 goals in recent years..
With this goals return, how can they go on and get top 4?
If you look at Klopp's signings so far, you will realise that he is adding pace and physicality to the team. Of course, apart for Karius, who is signed for his pure handsomeness
Griezman b4 he move to madrid was unproven. Though he did played in the world cup 2yrs back abeit a bit part player.
He was linked to spurs back then. When lamela was useless back then and spurs would like a winger. Lloris even recommended him to spurs but din worked out then unfortunately
Back in 2010, Comolli was very close to getting him to Liverpool for �7m until Dalglish decided against it and go for Downing.
If you look at Klopp's signings so far, you will realise that he is adding pace and physicality to the team. Of course, apart for Karius, who is signed for his pure handsomeness
No goal machine...
Give him another season, he will be show the door if thing still the same..
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Any fan would appreciate if their team don't score goal?
Ask any gunner fan , how they feel when they see the team keep passing the ball around in front of the goal post?�
No goal machine...
Give him another season, he will be show the door if thing still the same..
Any fan would appreciate if their team don't score goal?
Ask any gunner fan , how they feel when they see the team keep passing the ball around in front of the goal post?
If can offload the 2 B's, Klopp might buy another striker.
Anyway, as mentioned before, Klopp wants more goals from midfielders, so to ease the load on the strikers
Edited by Osprey23, 25 July 2016 - 03:12 PM.
Quietly confident. No Europe will be an advantage.
Just hope the rest of the English teams fly the England flag high high in Europe this season�
mai so bad..... but is true.. no europe will be a big advantage...
No goal machine...
Give him another season, he will be show the door if thing still the same..
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Any fan would appreciate if their team don't score goal?
Ask any gunner fan , how they feel when they see the team keep passing the ball around in front of the goal post?�
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nowadays the ball stop outside opponent penalty box liao....... �no chance to reach goal post
Griezman b4 he move to madrid was unproven. Though he did played in the world cup 2yrs back abeit a bit part player.
He was linked to spurs back then. When lamela was useless back then and spurs would like a winger. Lloris even recommended him to spurs but din worked out then unfortunately�
spurs has a good team now.... but i feel still not as good as klinnsman, barmby days.....
Goal machine already has, just need to maintain it properly so it doesn't breakdown so frequently.
If can offload the 2 B's, Klopp might buy another striker.
Anyway, as mentioned before, Klopp wants more goals from midfielders, so to ease the load on the strikers�
i still think benteke is a good striker....... but that is what he is, a striker and nothing else....
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i still think benteke is a good striker....... but that is what he is, a striker and nothing else....
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So now u starting to appreciate the dirty work done by Heskey back then right?�
i still think benteke is a good striker....... but that is what he is, a striker and nothing else....
Yes he is. Just that we cannot play to his strength. So it will be better for Pool and for him to leave
So now u starting to appreciate the dirty work done by Heskey back then right?�
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i think better to say i have always appreciated giroud....�
Yes he is. Just that we cannot play to his strength. So it will be better for Pool and for him to leave
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actually i won't mind if Wenger buys benteke....... but only for the right price....�
According to Metro.co.uk:
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German sportswear giants Adidas were left red-faced today after an eagle-eyed Chelsea fan spotted no.7 Riyad Mahrez shirts being sold on the brand�s official website.
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man u vs man c game call off...
man u vs man c game call off...
Omg. What happened?
Omg. What happened?
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Omg. What happened?
i knew b4 hand j.m complain pitch very bad,�
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maybe their pitch like our national stadium grass lol..
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damn man, i was so so looking forward to the game.....
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Have Adidas just revealed Chelsea have hijacked Arsenal�s deal for Leicester City ace Riyad�Mahrez?
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2.../#ixzz4FPGKy9cO�
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German sportswear giants Adidas were left red-faced today after an eagle-eyed Chelsea fan spotted no.7 Riyad Mahrez shirts being sold on the brand�s official website.
The Leicester City ace has been the subject of interest from Arsenal in recent days, with the Gunners believed to have held talks with the Algerian over a move to the Emirates.
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Just my opinion only that this rumour unlikely to be true cos Chelsea has quite a few wide players as well like Cuadrado, Moses, Hazard and even Willian.
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But surely some eyebrows will be raised cos unlike for Adidas to make this kind of error unless they know something which they did when Mkhitaryan joined United so maybe true afterall?
i think better to say i have always appreciated giroud....
actually i won't mind if Wenger buys benteke....... but only for the right price....
�30m + 1 should be enough.
Still think he needs horizontal deliveries from the sides. Vertical through balls from Ozil is not going to be effective. Benteke not one who makes intelligent runs
�30m + 1 should be enough.
Still think he needs horizontal deliveries from the sides. Vertical through balls from Ozil is not going to be effective. Benteke not one who makes intelligent runs�
Giroud does try to make intelligent runs but always too slow.... 20m+1 can lar....�
Just my opinion only that this rumour unlikely to be true cos Chelsea has quite a few wide players as well like Cuadrado, Moses, Hazard and even Willian.
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But surely some eyebrows will be raised cos unlike for Adidas to make this kind of error unless they know something which they did when Mkhitaryan joined United so maybe true afterall?
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Adidas sponsorships.... looks like it may be true
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Giroud does try to make intelligent runs but always too slow.... 20m+1 can lar....�
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Adidas sponsorships.... looks like it may be true
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If 20m + 1 then must throw in kieran gibbs�
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On the blue jersey, maybe is china factory mistake lah. They must have been told that no. 7 Mahrez is for blue jersey of the EPL champion team. Some sotong must have missed one year of EPL, and thought it's still Chelsea, so printed on Chelsea jersey�
i knew b4 hand j.m complain pitch very bad,�
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maybe their pitch like our national stadium grass lol..
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damn man, i was so so looking forward to the game.....
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Maybe the bird nest also became like this...
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If 20m + 1 then must throw in kieran gibbs�
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On the blue jersey, maybe is china factory mistake lah. They must have been told that no. 7 Mahrez is for blue jersey of the EPL champion team. Some sotong must have missed one year of EPL, and thought it's still Chelsea, so printed on Chelsea jersey�
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you all want another sick chicken ar?�
you all want another sick chicken ar?
Maybe can at least use him to motivate and push the rash chicken we have at LB now lor
Joe Allen from Liverpool-�13mill
Ramadan Sobhi from Al Ahly-�5mill
Arsenal have to act fast
Crystal Palace are prepared to pay £30m for Christian Benteke. (Dominic King)
Arsenal have to act fast
Pool will b stupid to reject if this offer comes thru.
If �30m straight I believe will be accepted.
The last bid was rejected because it was �27m plus �3m. Apparently that add ons terms are not really realistic.
Crystal Palace are prepared to pay £30m for Christian Benteke. (Dominic King)
Arsenal have to act fast
Good good... one B going. What about the first one?
Icardi might have bearing on this.
Have a feeling Inter will come in for him if Icardi is sold. However, Mancini must remain as their manager.
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LFC have given up on a deal for Chilwell as Klopp doubted his desire to complete a move to Anfield. (James Pearce)
Ok, let's hope the trend continues. Going big on the left back.�
With Smith also gone, Pool's full backs option is really limited. � Hence, it is natural to think Klopp will probably go for a more ready player. Hence,this may also explains why Chiwell may not be the right option. �
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Hopeful on this development... think that's the remaining piece in Klopp's transfer plan this season..
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after which, rest will be sales of fringe players when a good offer comes along - Mario, Benteke, Markovic, �Lucas etc... �No pressure to sell and Pool should be looking for reasonable prices before offloading or sending out on loans..�
With Liverpool not in UCL, chance for the rest to equalise this season
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For a while i couldn't immediately understand the diagram. Thought it was the rest of the teams have 4 each...�
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Only after about 30 sec then gathered that it was combined together.�
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With the big guys like RM, Barca, AM, BM having a stranglehold on the UCL competition these few years, I don't see how easy it would be for anyone to gatecrash lor...
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This chap also a bit talented, but egoistic pattern pattern type.�
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If Stoke should miss him, then should encourage Stoke to get a like-for-like replacement and take Balo after Allen. Give special Purchase-with-Purchase discount, 15m can liao.
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After seeing his mate moving to Anfield and knowing that Liverpool are after a LB, Jetro Willems is doing all he can to make his interest known. Not sure how well PSV fans are taking it though.
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Well, hopefully it'll incite fans revolt and they petition the club to get rid of him fast, so Pool can buy him on the cheap.�
With Smith also gone, Pool's full backs option is really limited. Hence, it is natural to think Klopp will probably go for a more ready player. Hence,this may also explains why Chiwell may not be the right option.
Hopeful on this development... think that's the remaining piece in Klopp's transfer plan this season..
after which, rest will be sales of fringe players when a good offer comes along - Mario, Benteke, Markovic, Lucas etc... No pressure to sell and Pool should be looking for reasonable prices before offloading or sending out on loans..
With Chilwell being the one targeted, seems to suggest that Klopp will keep faith in Moreno for the next season. But I do agree with you that signing an established one might not be a bad idea as he can be a mentor to Moreno rather than understudy.
My dream signing will be Wolfsburg's Ricardo Rodriguez. Apparently has a �24m release clause. Hector I believe is staying put at Koln. Seems to be reluctant to move abroad. Willems seems to be trying too hard to get a move. He is just another Moreno imo and seems to have lose a bit of pace since his knee injury.
Awaiting Klopp to surprise me. The speed he moved and get the deal done for Wijnaldum after deciding to drop Zielinski's interest is impressive.
With Liverpool not in UCL, chance for the rest to equalise this season
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I can't see English teams winning the UCL for the next 2-3 years until all the best players started moving there. Just looking at the strength of Barca's forwards, Madrid's balance and Muchen's German elites, English teams still have a long way to go although they have the best managers in the game imo
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Pool's 5 will not be beaten anytime soon�
new season, new predictions....
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my hopeful predictions for the champs of the 4 major leagues
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England - Arsenal
Spain - Real Madrid
Germany - Dortmund (upset)
Italy - Juventus, but hope others will buck up
With Chilwell being the one targeted, seems to suggest that Klopp will keep faith in Moreno for the next season. But I do agree with you that signing an established one might not be a bad idea as he can be a mentor to Moreno rather than understudy.
My dream signing will be Wolfsburg's Ricardo Rodriguez. Apparently has a �24m release clause. Hector I believe is staying put at Koln. Seems to be reluctant to move abroad. Willems seems to be trying too hard to get a move. He is just another Moreno imo and seems to have lose a bit of pace since his knee injury.
Awaiting Klopp to surprise me. The speed he moved and get the deal done for Wijnaldum after deciding to drop Zielinski's interest is impressive.�
guess the pace of the transfer is due to his pulling power as a manager. should the prospective club be open to a deal, just a phonecall from Klopp and the prospective player is hooked. rest is sorting out the deal with the club.
guess the pace of the transfer is due to his pulling power as a manager. should the prospective club be open to a deal, just a phonecall from Klopp and the prospective player is hooked. rest is sorting out the deal with the club.
Good point but another reason why we can move so fast I believe is also we have someone calling the shots now. Remember the frustration when BR is part of the transfer committee? We are moving so slowly in negotiation and whatsoever. Kind of refreshing to me to see us operate.
Also like the way we are keeping it tight. Jornos always get to know when deals are in advanced stage.
new season, new predictions....
my hopeful predictions for the champs of the 4 major leagues
England - Arsenal
Spain - Real Madrid
Germany - Dortmund (upset)
Italy - Juventus, but hope others will buck up
BPL : Man City
La Liga : Barcelona
Bundesliga : BVB
Italy : Juventus
If I am wrong on City, i do hope Wenger wins it too and leave Arsenal on a high.
Good point but another reason why we can move so fast I believe is also we have someone calling the shots now. Remember the frustration when BR is part of the transfer committee? We are moving so slowly in negotiation and whatsoever. Kind of refreshing to me to see us operate.
Also like the way we are keeping it tight. Jornos always get to know when deals are in advanced stage.
BPL : Man City
La Liga : Barcelona
Bundesliga : BVB
Italy : Juventus
If I am wrong on City, i do hope Wenger wins it too and leave Arsenal on a high.�
Agreed City should be the firm favourites for the EPL with Pep as the manager. Arsenal dun seems very active in the transfer market and they won't be able to challenge meaningfully if they dun pull some star players from the marktet. �Utd probably a season of rebuilding still and Jose doesn't have a good track record of winning in his 1st season at a club.�
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In the bundesliga, I think it will be bayern again as they have once again shown their financial muscles in swooping a few prized possessions from other clubs. BVB lost a few of its star players so I doubt they can win the title.�
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my guess is as follows:-
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BPL - City
La Liga - Barca
Bundesliga - Bayern
Italy - Juve
Agreed City should be the firm favourites for the EPL with Pep as the manager. Arsenal dun seems very active in the transfer market and they won't be able to challenge meaningfully if they dun pull some star players from the marktet. Utd probably a season of rebuilding still and Jose doesn't have a good track record of winning in his 1st season at a club.
In the bundesliga, I think it will be bayern again as they have once again shown their financial muscles in swooping a few prized possessions from other clubs. BVB lost a few of its star players so I doubt they can win the title.
my guess is as follows:-
BPL - City
La Liga - Barca
Bundesliga - Bayern
Italy - Juve
If BVB keeps hold of Auba, I feel they have a good chance for upset. They have no doubt lost Hummels, Gundogan and Mkhitaryan but they really have a fantastic window of getting many talented young players in as replacement. will give Ancelotti and Bayern a good run for their money imo
Former Arsenal captain, Mikel Arteta, deleted all Arsenal pics off his Instagram now that he's a Man City asst coach.
Don't understand why must do that.
BVB has now signed 3 current German Internationals if this goes through. Gotze, Schurrle already signed. They rebuilding n I hope to see them do well n challenge BM in Bundesliga.
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Yup, Bundesliga is kinda boring, as it is basically the same team dominating throughout, like PSG for Ligue 1 and Juventus for Serie A...
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We will have a forever never buy back clause inserted If we sell balotelli
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Lol, never said never, who know when Klopp steps down, the new manager might be a fa n of Balotelli
Yup, Bundesliga is kinda boring, as it is basically the same team dominating throughout, like PSG for Ligue 1 and Juventus for Serie A...
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Lol, never said never, who know when Klopp steps down, the new manager might be a fa n of Balotelli
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Jose Mourinho once said it is impossible to manage or coach Mario.�
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Brendan Rogers, his disciple, wanted to prove his master wrong and tried his hand at Mario, only to get burnt.�
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Klopp... �well, the best thing is that he won't even bother to try. That's alot of wisdom in that... imho
If �30m straight I believe will be accepted.
The last bid was rejected because it was �27m plus �3m. Apparently that add ons terms are not really realistic.�
3m if CP wins BPL? quite realistic mah
Jose Mourinho once said it is impossible to manage or coach Mario.�
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Brendan Rogers, his disciple, wanted to prove his master wrong and tried his hand at Mario, only to get burnt.�
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Klopp... �well, the best thing is that he won't even bother to try. That's alot of wisdom in that... imho
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Lol, so true, hopefully, Mario will prove us all wrong and change for the better
This is seriously out of the blue.
Yup, Bundesliga is kinda boring, as it is basically the same team dominating throughout, like PSG for Ligue 1 and Juventus for Serie A...
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Lol, never said never, who know when Klopp steps down, the new manager might be a fa n of Balotelli
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Then get the new manager to sign "cannot sign Balotelli" clause�
3m if CP wins BPL? quite realistic mah
�1m if Palace win BPL
�1m if Palace win UCL
�1m if Benteke win Ballon d'Or
Then get the new manager to sign "cannot sign Balotelli" clause�
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� the new manager might reject the chance of managing Liverpool due to his love for Balotelli...
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Btw, the sales of AC Milan is really turning out to be a drag.... Really hope they can settle this asap...
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asking Mr Wenger to splash the cash to
try to win the league. I say save the money
Mr Wenger. 4th is as good as a trophy.
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I dont know why non Arsenal fans are
asking Mr Wenger to splash the cash to
try to win the league. I say save the money
Mr Wenger. 4th is as good as a trophy.
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that 4th place is like a year in year out given liao. how to improve on that is really the key.�
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As a owner, i think Arsene is almost the perfect manager. Every year, UCL is guaranteed along with the financial gains. �He takes cheap players and sells high to bigger clubs. Guess he doesn't mind being seen as a feeder club. The money in the warchest stacks up and once in while. Wenger buys a few players.. almost to appease the fans it seems. �From a P&L perspectives, Arsene could easily be the best BPL manager ever.. ��
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but for most fans... i think it can be pretty frustrating seeing each year of title challenge fade away at some point. �The squad is maily quite decent and some will argue pretty good.. however, there is just not enough players to go around and last the entire season at top form to win the title at Arsenal it seems.�
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i am saying the above as a neutral fan.. i will root for Arsenal to win the title rather than the likes city, chelsea or utd. .�
that 4th place is like a year in year out given liao. how to improve on that is really the key.�
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As a owner, i think Arsene is almost the perfect manager. Every year, UCL is guaranteed along with the financial gains. �He takes cheap players and sells high to bigger clubs. Guess he doesn't mind being seen as a feeder club. The money in the warchest stacks up and once in while. Wenger buys a few players.. almost to appease the fans it seems. �From a P&L perspectives, Arsene could easily be the best BPL manager ever.. ��
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but for most fans... i think it can be pretty frustrating seeing each year of title challenge fade away at some point. �The squad is maily quite decent and some will argue pretty good.. however, there is just not enough players to go around and last the entire season at top form to win the title at Arsenal it seems.�
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i am saying the above as a neutral fan.. i will root for Arsenal to win the title rather than the likes city, chelsea or utd. .�
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So true, i am sure most owner love to have a manager like Arsene, he does not spend as much as most other clubs but can still achieve the target of being in the UCL... However, from the view of the fans, they want trophies...
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If �30m straight I believe will be accepted.
The last bid was rejected because it was �27m plus �3m. Apparently that add ons terms are not really realistic.Based on current transfer dealings, 30m for a prime quality striker is a good and realistic price.
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Crystal Palace has to act fast; they might be caught in a bidding war if another club is desperate for a striker as the transfer window gets closer. ��
that 4th place is like a year in year out given liao. how to improve on that is really the key.
As a owner, i think Arsene is almost the perfect manager. Every year, UCL is guaranteed along with the financial gains. He takes cheap players and sells high to bigger clubs. Guess he doesn't mind being seen as a feeder club. The money in the warchest stacks up and once in while. Wenger buys a few players.. almost to appease the fans it seems. From a P&L perspectives, Arsene could easily be the best BPL manager ever..
but for most fans... i think it can be pretty frustrating seeing each year of title challenge fade away at some point. The squad is maily quite decent and some will argue pretty good.. however, there is just not enough players to go around and last the entire season at top form to win the title at Arsenal it seems.
i am saying the above as a neutral fan.. i will root for Arsenal to win the title rather than the likes city, chelsea or utd. .
Maybe you have not been following arsenal as a neutral fan
1) we hardly sold anyone in first 11 for past 2-3 seasons
2) we finished 2nd and 3rd the last 2 seasons
3) we have been running transfer deficit past few seasons
What you mentioned is true when we were shackled by the debt of the new stadium but for past 3 seasons, it is the exactly the opposite of what you mentioned
that 4th place is like a year in year out given liao. how to improve on that is really the key.�
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As a owner, i think Arsene is almost the perfect manager. Every year, UCL is guaranteed along with the financial gains. �He takes cheap players and sells high to bigger clubs. Guess he doesn't mind being seen as a feeder club. The money in the warchest stacks up and once in while. Wenger buys a few players.. almost to appease the fans it seems. �From a P&L perspectives, Arsene could easily be the best BPL manager ever.. ��
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but for most fans... i think it can be pretty frustrating seeing each year of title challenge fade away at some point. �The squad is maily quite decent and some will argue pretty good.. however, there is just not enough players to go around and last the entire season at top form to win the title at Arsenal it seems.�
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i am saying the above as a neutral fan.. i will root for Arsenal to win the title rather than the likes city, chelsea or utd. .�
Sorry as I've posted this many times, a football club should be striving for trophies first and not profit first. Yes, profit is important to sustain the club but should not be the be all and end all objective. Paying abit over the odds for quality players can't be helped and players should not be bought for the sake of making a profit cos they have sell on value etc�but cos they can add value on the pitch.��
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And that's why fans and owners seldom see eye to eye although there are exceptions like Sheikh , Roman etc.�I speak from a fan's perspective and hence why I'm always against owners like Kroenke who pays himself a�fee�for doing nothing!��
So true, i am sure most owner love to have a manager like Arsene, he does not spend as much as most other clubs but can still achieve the target of being in the UCL... However, from the view of the fans, they want trophies...
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No idea what had happened but certainly not looking good
While I am all for MU to spend whatever it takes (not my money wa) to bring Pogba back, if not for sporting or commercial, but just to make a big statement of intent. It's somewhat disturbing to read Football365's report that Pogba is holding out hoping for RM to make a last minute bid.
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There is no knowing if the delay is Juve is holding out for MU to foot all agent's fees or it's due to the above.
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It's every footballer's dream to play for RM or Bacca, but if he's another Di Maria and arrives at OT while the heart is still somewhere else, then please, thanks but no thanks.
Edited by Ngseeming, 26 July 2016 - 01:35 PM.
Doubts over Sakho's Anfield future after LFC defender sent home from US tour by Klopp
No idea what had happened but certainly not looking good�
I thought Klopp liked him. Must be something serious...
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Do we have enough cover at central defence now? Matip, Lovren, the new guy, that's all? Gomez, Lucas, etc. all backup when fit again? A bit risky...
i knew b4 hand j.m complain pitch very bad,
maybe their pitch like our national stadium grass lol..
damn man, i was so so looking forward to the game.....
Look at it this way.
Manure narrowly avoided a second consecutive thrashing.
Try to be positive
guys... newcastle in championship yea?
While I am all for MU to spend whatever it takes (not my money wa) to bring Pogba back, if not for sporting or commercial, but just to make a big statement of intent. It's somewhat disturbing to read Football365's report that Pogba is holding out hoping for RM to make a last minute bid.
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There is no knowing if the delay is Juve is holding out for MU to foot all agent's fees or it's due to the above.
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It's every footballer's dream to play for RM or Bacca, but if he's another Di Maria and arrives at OT while the heart is still somewhere else, then please, thanks but no thanks.
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Ya its seems something is holding up this transfer as most conditions have been met. Common belief is that it's the agent's fee that is holding it up but bro O23 has a point that unlikely the agent being the problem so perhaps Pogba still keen on joining RM which if true, United shld pull out after agreeing to pay such an astronomical sum as no point trying for a player whose heart is not there.�
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Anyway, the rumored fall backs of Matuidi n�Matic are more affordable and good enough though Matic will be hard to pry from Chelsea I feel.�We shall see how this pans out as this transfer alone could start the merry go�round to trigger other transfers.��
Big Sam's appointment split the English fans right in the middle: 50% voted happy while the other 50� are either sad or couldn't be bothered with it.
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It would be normal for a new guy to talk about future, but Big Sam just said that England were good enough to win Euro 2016 but they dried up.
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Hmmm, was there an Euro 2016 for women? Then maybe.
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Dried up or not, not many people including many of the die hard fans would ever dream that they could manage last 4, lest alone winning it.
guys... newcastle in championship yea?
Yeh, now they can pick someone their size - so to say.
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Sorry as I've posted this many times, a football club should be striving for trophies first and not profit first. Yes, profit is important to sustain the club but should not be the be all and end all objective. Paying abit over the odds for quality players can't be helped and players should not be bought for the sake of making a profit cos they have sell on value etc�but cos they can add value on the pitch.��
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And that's why fans and owners seldom see eye to eye although there are exceptions like Sheikh , Roman etc.�I speak from a fan's perspective and hence why I'm always against owners like Kroenke who pays himself a�fee�for doing nothing!��
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Lol, truth be told i also want my favorite club to start spending the $$$ too so that the club can get back in UCL...� However, it seems they prefer to bask in former glories and sign free transfer agents instead...
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i am sure you can guess which is the club i am talking about now...
that 4th place is like a year in year out given liao. how to improve on that is really the key.
As a owner, i think Arsene is almost the perfect manager. Every year, UCL is guaranteed along with the financial gains. He takes cheap players and sells high to bigger clubs. Guess he doesn't mind being seen as a feeder club. The money in the warchest stacks up and once in while. Wenger buys a few players.. almost to appease the fans it seems. From a P&L perspectives, Arsene could easily be the best BPL manager ever..
but for most fans... i think it can be pretty frustrating seeing each year of title challenge fade away at some point. The squad is maily quite decent and some will argue pretty good.. however, there is just not enough players to go around and last the entire season at top form to win the title at Arsenal it seems.
i am saying the above as a neutral fan.. i will root for Arsenal to win the title rather than the likes city, chelsea or utd. .
One below Liverpool.
:)
Doubts over Sakho's Anfield future after LFC defender sent home from US tour by Klopp
No idea what had happened but certainly not looking good�
Maybe he was caught with Paris Hilton in his hotel room doing work-out instead on the field with the rest ......
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Or Paris Hilton went to the wrong room, it should be Klopp room but landed in Sakho's room. That is why manager tulan�.... ��
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Big Sam's appointment split the English fans right in the middle: 50% voted happy while the other 50� are either sad or couldn't be bothered with it.
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It would be normal for a new guy to talk about future, but Big Sam just said that England were good enough to win Euro 2016 but they dried up.
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Hmmm, was there an Euro 2016 for women? Then maybe.
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Dried up or not, not many people including many of the die hard fans would ever dream that they could manage last 4, lest alone winning it.
Yeh, now they can pick someone their size - so to say.
�Do not worry too much about big fat Sam.
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He is the best available Brit manager in the England premier league at present and so be it. Talk is cheap but proving by winning WC or next Euro is not so easy.
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If you compare Sam to Portugal's Fernando Santos who has a pedigree track record, fat Sam has not won anything at club level and has nothing much to show. But Brit media will hype him up somehow.
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Nevertheless to me, he would be far better than Roy Hodgson because he don't like Pool and therefore will not be inclined to choose Pool players for England's games. I am very happy and can live with that. �
Maybe he was caught with Paris Hilton in his hotel room doing work-out instead on the field with the rest ......
Or Paris Hilton went to the wrong room, it should be Klopp room but landed in Sakho's room. That is why manager tulan ....
Too imaginative lah Bro. :)
Let's just wait to see if Klopp would shed more light during his next interview. That said, even if there is something serious between them, don't think Klopp will provide the full picture.
Edited by Osprey23, 26 July 2016 - 04:45 PM.
One of them on the way out? ;)
Phone-call between Guardiola and Gabriel Jesus was so strong, even to the point of discouraging Barcelona, who made a new approach. To convince Gabriel Jesus, Manchester United are planning to use the weight of their tradition and history, compared to Manchester City.
Manchester United haven't ruled the possibility of Jos� Mourinho calling Gabriel Jesus.
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Lyon have confirmed they have rejected a �35m bid from Arsenal for Alexandre Lacazette.
I think if change � to � can liao
I think if change � to � can liao
Got chance. He wants to go after they sold his best mate Umtiti.
However, being a Lyon boy through and through, he won't be making a fuss to push for a move.
Lyon have confirmed they have rejected a �35m bid from Arsenal for Alexandre Lacazette.
That's more like it Arsenal! Make me eat my wordsNot sure if it is a cheeky bid because west ham supposedly offer �40m lol
Yes bro. Earlier West Ham has a �40m rejected.
Please get him, then West Ham will come back for Benteke.
Blaise Matuidi allowed to leave PSG. IMO a more platable signing than Pogba for United.
Granted he is much older but less than a third of the price n a good player nevertheless!
http://www.mirror.co...matuidi-8495964�
Higuain is already signed by Juve for record fee. Doubt Utd can back off from the Progba deal which is meant to finance this purchase... �
74M pd for a 28 year old striker is really steep. 3rd all time highest fee after Ronaldo and Bale. �These records are going to tumble once the Progba deal goes thru.... �
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both deals of Higuain and Progba looks astrologically high... �
astrology also come liao..
Higuain is already signed by Juve for record fee. Doubt Utd can back off from the Progba deal which is meant to finance this purchase... �
74M pd for a 28 year old striker is really steep. 3rd all time highest fee after Ronaldo and Bale. �These records are going to tumble once the Progba deal goes thru.... �
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both deals of Higuain and Progba looks astrologically high... �
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it makes suarez deal looks like a bargain
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now if man u back out on pogba deal.... Juve gonna be bankrupt i think
Yes bro. Earlier West Ham has a �40m rejected.
Please get him, then West Ham will come back for Benteke.�
i tot is 40m pounds? euros only?
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but juve said they don need to sell pogba to buy higuain. dunno how true....mayb trying to dig more money fm man u.
Higuain is already signed by Juve for record fee. Doubt Utd can back off from the Progba deal which is meant to finance this purchase... �
74M pd for a 28 year old striker is really steep. 3rd all time highest fee after Ronaldo and Bale. �These records are going to tumble once the Progba deal goes thru.... �
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both deals of Higuain and Progba looks astrologically high... �
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I'm reading some reports saying Juve insisting they have the money to finance the Higuain deal even without the Pogba sale but maybe just talk. Likely u r right that United too far in the negotiations to pull out at this stage but I for one would like to see it fail if anything just to spike the Italians cos they have been demanding super high prices for their players like Napoli with Koulibaly and Higuain.
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Admittedly, United also played their part for agreeing such a high price. It doesn't bode well for the already inflated transfer market and that's why Wenger has to accept it and so too the rest unfortunately.�
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The previous highest 5 transfers in history�were Bale, Ronaldo, Suarez, Neymar and James. Really quality players whereas now you get Pogba and Higuain
guys... newcastle in championship yea?
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Lol, apparently yes, with my beloved Leeds...
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it makes suarez deal looks like a bargain
now if man u back out on pogba deal.... Juve gonna be bankrupt i think
i tot is 40m pounds? euros only?
Yes, Barcelona got a bargain. Juventus apparently said that they don't need to sell Pogba to finance all the deals they have done. Bravo front so as not to weaken negotiation position?
For Lacazette, yes, West Ham bid is �40m, not �
but juve said they don need to sell pogba to buy higuain. dunno how true....mayb trying to dig more money fm man u.
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but jumping the gun with Higuain purchase.. �Juve has already revealed their card in the pocket.�
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in all account, the reality is probably both deals are already secured. just a matter of time to prepare the PR aspects and tie up any contractual loose ends. �
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with such heavy price tags, expectations of the fans will become sky high. let's see how they perform under pressure.�
Yes, Barcelona got a bargain. Juventus apparently said that they don't need to sell Pogba to finance all the deals they have done. Bravo front so as not to weaken negotiation position?
For Lacazette, yes, West Ham bid is �40m, not ��
If I recall correctly, Suarez had to serve another ban for the biting during the WC. Gerrard said once he heard the news of the bite, he knew he would be sold. Kudos to barcelona for taking him. I doubt Pool could have kept him much longer anyway.�
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In the event, Juve do have the money to keep Pogba, Juve may have just joined the elite top 3 of European football. although its laughable if there's such a thing you consider they were so close just 2 months ago.
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Personally, even if Man U doesn't pay up, Real can steal him for slightly lower. Pogba may even opt to take a pay cut to make it happen.�
Lol, apparently yes, with my beloved Leeds...
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When I first started following English League in the�early 70s, Leeds, Liverpool were the popular teams n�title challengers. Arsenal and Derby County were also on the fringes. Derby won the league by "default" in 1972. Default cos they finished their season n went on holiday whilst 2 teams (can't�exactly remember who they were) had a final match to play and could overtake Derby but lost!!�So Derby became champs and heard of it over the radio!!
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Leeds were managed by Don Revie and were a very physical team and much feared cos they were led by the fiery Scot Billy Bremner who was the equivalent of the latter day Roy Keane. Anyway, they were top dogs together with Pool and when they faced each other, fireworks will take place culminating with Keegan and Bremner being sent off in the charity shield of 1974. �
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Leeds went on to reach the European Cup Final in 1975 and fast forward the 90s, they miscalculated by using future funds on the assumption that�UCL qualification was theirs�and the rest is history. Your club has a�good history but mismanagement put paid to it and they now languish in the Championship with other famous old clubs like Forest, Villa, Newcastle etc.��
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It's particularly painful being a fan to see your club struggle. My classmate is a big Leeds fan and still is and I wish you good luck that somehow�Leeds will regain part of their glory at least by returning to the top flight!!�
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Just doing my 2 cents to remember great clubs of the past, cheers!!
wah spring....u really old! hehehe. no offence...joking nia.
When I first started following English League in the�early 70s, Leeds, Liverpool were the popular teams n�title challengers. Arsenal and Derby County were also on the fringes. Derby won the league by "default" in 1972. Default cos they finished their season n went on holiday whilst 2 teams (can't�exactly remember who they were) had a final match to play and could overtake Derby but lost!!�So Derby became champs and heard of it over the radio!!
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Leeds were managed by Don Revie and were a very physical team and much feared cos they were led by the fiery Scot Billy Bremner who was the equivalent of the latter day Roy Keane. Anyway, they were top dogs together with Pool and when they faced each other, fireworks will take place culminating with Keegan and Bremner being sent off in the charity shield of 1974. �
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Leeds went on to reach the European Cup Final in 1975 and fast forward the 90s, they miscalculated by using future funds on the assumption that�UCL qualification was theirs�and the rest is history. Your club has a�good history but mismanagement put paid to it and they now languish in the Championship with other famous old clubs like Forest, Villa, Newcastle etc.��
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It's particularly painful being a fan to see your club struggle. My classmate is a big Leeds fan and still is and I wish you good luck that somehow�Leeds will regain part of their glory at least by returning to the top flight!!�
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Just doing my 2 cents to remember great clubs of the past, cheers!!
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Thks for sharing this, it is amazed how these previous mighty clubs had fallen, it is the same for my beloved italian club too, maybe the problem is with me, lol, every club i support seems to be going down...
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Currently at deficit of �120m
Lol. Very coincidental hor?
wah spring....u really old! hehehe. no offence...joking nia.
Haha ya old man
Football in old days very different from today with live TV and instant information. We had to depend on Shoot magazine which is few months old as it arrives here by sea!!
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Anyway. let's move on from the past and enjoy our football despite the different teams we support, cheers!!
Everton met the release clause of Idrissa Gueye
Edited by Osprey23, 27 July 2016 - 10:38 AM.
Just checked Juventus transfer records for this summer.
Currently at deficit of �120m
Lol. Very coincidental hor?�
Honestly I don't care if the Pogba transfer happens or not. Not digging the way we are being held ransom. But it seems to be a feature of every frigging transfer window since Woodward took charge z.Z
Thks for sharing this, it is amazed how these previous mighty clubs had fallen, it is the same for my beloved italian club too, maybe the problem is with me, lol, every club i support seems to be going down...
�can u please support man u? they are a very gd n mighty club.�
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Honestly I don't care if the Pogba transfer happens or not. Not digging the way we are being held ransom. But it seems to be a feature of every frigging transfer window since Woodward took charge z.Z
thats how it is dealing with italian clubs. when they r buying, they will lowball u till u left with no ball. but when selling, they will put skyhigh prices till u vomit blood.
Just checked Juventus transfer records for this summer.
Currently at deficit of �120m
Lol. Very coincidental hor?�
the accountants at Juve must be doing such a perfect job trying to balance the books �lol�
If I recall correctly, Suarez had to serve another ban for the biting during the WC. Gerrard said once he heard the news of the bite, he knew he would be sold. Kudos to barcelona for taking him. I doubt Pool could have kept him much longer anyway.�
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In the event, Juve do have the money to keep Pogba, Juve may have just joined the elite top 3 of European football. although its laughable if there's such a thing you consider they were so close just 2 months ago.
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Personally, even if Man U doesn't pay up, Real can steal him for slightly lower. Pogba may even opt to take a pay cut to make it happen.�
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Real has really been that active in the transfer market this summer and not signing any galactico players yet.. maybe they will change their mind and hijack Progba deal? unlikely it seems..�
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thats how it is dealing with italian clubs. when they r buying, they will lowball u till u left with no ball. but when selling, they will put skyhigh prices till u vomit blood.
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Lol, i do not want to be flamed by the massive Man U supporters around
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too strong in the league by a distance and buying their rivals' star players
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can Inter, Milan, Roma, Lazio, Napoli all buck up a not
Lol, apparently yes, with my beloved Leeds...
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we can enjoy leeds vs newcastle together at some pub LOL
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Lol, i do not want to be flamed by the massive Man U supporters around
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too strong in the league by a distance and buying their rivals' star players
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can Inter, Milan, Roma, Lazio, Napoli all buck up a not
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i seriously doubt so, unless some godfather come in and embark on a spending spree on players...
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I �was telling all my newcastle friends , ( quite alot in sg )
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we can enjoy leeds vs newcastle together at some pub LOL
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Lmao, the truth hurts but i doubt pub will show Championship matches...
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no la....why would they flame their fellow fans... so pls...declare urself a man u fan.�
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Erm, kinda hard for me, i still supporting Leeds even though they had been down for so long...
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i seriously doubt so, unless some godfather come in and embark on a spending spree on players...
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Erm, kinda hard for me, i still supporting Leeds even though they had been down for so long...
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Leeds FC Elland Road stadium with capacity of 38K is the 12th largest stadium in England and 4th largest outside the premier league. So if there is some big time sugar daddy who is willing to come to Leeds to rejuvenate the club, the fortunes should rise.
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Anyway, we fans whichever stripe or colour we support can always hope........till we finally give up.
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Leeds FC Elland Road stadium with capacity of 38K is the 12th largest stadium in England and 4th largest outside the premier league. So if there is some big time sugar daddy who is willing to come to Leeds to rejuvenate the club, the fortunes should rise.
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Anyway, we fans whichever stripe or colour we support can always hope........till we finally give up.
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I suggest that Liverpool is a better choice. �
i still buy their jersey, but damn hard to find , even at queensway..
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What with the eight La Liga titles, four Spanish cups, four Champions League trophies and 453 goals he has given them, you would have thought Lionel Messi would be quite popular at Barcelona. But apparently some people at the Nou Camp remain unimpressed. That, at least, is what the Metro is reporting, and it�s music to Manchester City�s ears.
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Former Barca president Joan �Collins� Laporta has apparently claimed that there is a �conspiracy� to get Messi out of the club. We�re not sure why exactly. It appears to be something to do with the Argentine�s recent trips to court on tax evasion charges, or maybe it�s just because they don�t like his new blonde haircut that makes him look like Daenerys Targaryen out of Game of Thrones.
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Liverpool could recoup �100m in transfer fees this summer, according to the Daily Mail, which would comprise �30m for Christian Benteke, �6m for Brad Smith, a few more million for Lazar Markovic and Andre Wisdom, �44m they have already received for Joe Allen, Jordon Ibe, Joao Carlos Teixeira, Sergi Canos, Martin Skrtel and Jerome Sinclair, plus about �49.99 for Mario Balotelli.
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It is difficult for clubs like Leeds or lower tier clubs to make a big comeback once the financial rot is not resolved.
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Leeds FC Elland Road stadium with capacity of 38K is the 12th largest stadium in England and 4th largest outside the premier league. So if there is some big time sugar daddy who is willing to come to Leeds to rejuvenate the club, the fortunes should rise.
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Anyway, we fans whichever stripe or colour we support can always hope........till we finally give up.
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Alternatively, you can have a second club to support. Liverpool or Leicester has the same alphabet starting with "L".
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I suggest that Liverpool is a better choice. �
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Lol, i still harboring hopes on their comeback yet... so for now, i will not support other club yet...
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i still buy their jersey, but damn hard to find , even at queensway..
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my brother-in-law bought mine for me, but it is more for mocking me that i still supporting them...
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It is difficult for clubs like Leeds or lower tier clubs to make a big comeback once the financial rot is not resolved.
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Leeds FC Elland Road stadium with capacity of 38K is the 12th largest stadium in England and 4th largest outside the premier league. So if there is some big time sugar daddy who is willing to come to Leeds to rejuvenate the club, the fortunes should rise.
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Anyway, we fans whichever stripe or colour we support can always hope........till we finally give up.
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Ya I think Leeds is a sleeping giant which can be woken up by an investor. Worth considering and in Yorkshire where they are based, think the nearest EPL club is Hull City so good catchment area I feel but unfortunately for Leeds, they only attracted some shady owners so far �
When I first started following English League in the early 70s, Leeds, Liverpool were the popular teams n title challengers. Arsenal and Derby County were also on the fringes. Derby won the league by "default" in 1972. Default cos they finished their season n went on holiday whilst 2 teams (can't exactly remember who they were) had a final match to play and could overtake Derby but lost!! So Derby became champs and heard of it over the radio!!
Leeds were managed by Don Revie and were a very physical team and much feared cos they were led by the fiery Scot Billy Bremner who was the equivalent of the latter day Roy Keane. Anyway, they were top dogs together with Pool and when they faced each other, fireworks will take place culminating with Keegan and Bremner being sent off in the charity shield of 1974.
Leeds went on to reach the European Cup Final in 1975 and fast forward the 90s, they miscalculated by using future funds on the assumption that UCL qualification was theirs and the rest is history. Your club has a good history but mismanagement put paid to it and they now languish in the Championship with other famous old clubs like Forest, Villa, Newcastle etc.
It's particularly painful being a fan to see your club struggle. My classmate is a big Leeds fan and still is and I wish you good luck that somehow Leeds will regain part of their glory at least by returning to the top flight!!
Just doing my 2 cents to remember great clubs of the past, cheers!!
During that period Liverpool sure can match up with Leeds
during the eighty they are the bad boy in EPL. I love david batty and lee bowyer wacking other players.
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yeboha smashing in rockets ( hasslebank also).
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they are more classic in the olden days, when gordon starchan running down the flanks.
with lee chapman smashing in the goals.
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not to forget my favourite speed. and gary mcallister running the show in midfield..
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those wold the days...
during the eighty they are the bad boy in EPL. I love david batty and lee bowyer wacking other players.
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viduka scoring 4 goals, kewell flying pass defender.
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yeboha smashing in rockets ( hasslebank also).
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they are more classic in the olden days, when gordon starchan running down the flanks.
with lee chapman smashing in the goals.
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not to forget my favourite speed. and gary mcallister running the show in midfield..
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those wold the days...
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tot Batty Bowyer Kewell are in the late ninties n millenium....
tot Batty Bowyer Kewell are in the late ninties n millenium....
ya mix up my bad
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how times fly..
during the eighty they are the bad boy in EPL. I love david batty and lee bowyer wacking other players.
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viduka scoring 4 goals, kewell flying pass defender.
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yeboha smashing in rockets ( hasslebank also).
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they are more classic in the olden days, when gordon starchan running down the flanks.
with lee chapman smashing in the goals.
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not to forget my favourite speed. and gary mcallister running the show in midfield..
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those wold the days...
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ha? late nineties to early 2000s ya? �david batty maybe.. lee bowyer not that old la..�
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i rem his fight with teammate kieron dyer at newcastle... another relegated side..�
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you guys also had 2 rocks in defence... woodgate and ferdinand at the start of their carrers.. �with david o'leary as manager�
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*opps.. didnt see someone already point out to ya... my bad
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Ya I think Leeds is a sleeping giant which can be woken up by an investor. Worth considering and in Yorkshire where they are based, think the nearest EPL club is Hull City so good catchment area I feel but unfortunately for Leeds, they only attracted some shady owners so far �
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Yeah, shady owners who are not willing to put the cash to turn the club around, if that is the case, it is near impossible for the club to make a comeback to the premier league
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ha? late nineties to early 2000s ya? �david batty maybe.. lee bowyer not that old la..�
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i rem his fight with teammate kieron dyer at newcastle... another relegated side..�
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you guys also had 2 rocks in defence... woodgate and ferdinand at the start of their carrers.. �with david o'leary as manager�
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*opps.. didnt see someone already point out to ya... my bad
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Lol, are you a leeds fan too?� i wasn't aware we had so many fans here, u forget ian harte who is a free kick specialist, lucas radebe who is a colossal in defence as well, also england gk nigel martyn although he had to play back up to david seaman...
newcastle had their gory days also, the best i ever remember that wacking of man u . 5: 0 ??
even the centre back score a super goal,�
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ginola is flying pass defender like nothing, �alan shearer rocket volley ,
asprilla skils.�
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i am betting on newcastle to bounce back to epl straight�
www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10512322/laws-of-the-game-changes-ahead-of-the-201617-premier-league-season
Click link below for easy reference
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Very timely move. I support.
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Edited by cashcow, 27 July 2016 - 11:24 PM.
Fully behind his decision. No player should be behaving differently and showing no respect to the rest by being late on various occasions.
https://www.theguard...verpool-us-tour
Klopp explained why he sent Sakho back.
Fully behind his decision. No player should be behaving differently and showing no respect to the rest by being late on various occasions.
https://www.theguard...verpool-us-tour�
the guy is looking like a joker and really looked more and more ill-disciplined by character. �taking fat-burners, punctuality issue, missing treatment session... �think he really have to buck up. �It's probably now or never liao..�
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Klopp has handled the issue well without increasing any unnecessary attention or hype on Sakho. �But i am sure his patience is wearing thin. �Klopp can be calmly ruthless in terms of players. ��
Klopp explained why he sent Sakho back.
Fully behind his decision. No player should be behaving differently and showing no respect to the rest by being late on various occasions.
https://www.theguard...verpool-us-tour�
Klopp was known for being a disciplinary master, well, this kind of punishment will probably galvanize Liverpool into a legitimate challenger for the trophy this year...
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Klopp was known for being a disciplinary master, well, this kind of punishment will probably galvanize Liverpool into a legitimate challenger for the trophy this year...
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Klopp explained why he sent Sakho back.
Fully behind his decision. No player should be behaving differently and showing no respect to the rest by being late on various occasions.
https://www.theguard...verpool-us-tourPlayer discipline is of the utmost importance in all sports esp team ones.�
Klopp has handled it well by putting his foot down which he should as Mgr.
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One thing's for sure is that seems highly unlikely Sakho will be the next Capt then.
Klopp explained why he sent Sakho back.
Fully behind his decision. No player should be behaving differently and showing no respect to the rest by being late on various occasions.
https://www.theguard...verpool-us-tour
Quite disappointed with Sakho. Wasn't he a former captain?
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one thing for sure, he wont be the pool capt anytime soon...
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henderson unlikely to keep the skipper arm band in my view. Klopp is looking for stronger leadership on the pitch. �
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the guy is looking like a joker and really looked more and more ill-disciplined by character. taking fat-burners, punctuality issue, missing treatment session... think he really have to buck up. It's probably now or never liao..
Klopp has handled the issue well without increasing any unnecessary attention or hype on Sakho. But i am sure his patience is wearing thin. Klopp can be calmly ruthless in terms of players.
By not setting a good example, I don't think he will be made captain even Klopp wants a change. The taking of fat burners really not an issue in my opinion. The substance is never on the banned list. He has my full support on that issue. But I won't defend him on the lack of respect during the tour.
I seriously hope is not Lovren to take over Hendo if there is a change. He is not even the best CB before the arrival of Matip and Klavan, let alone now.
Pogba on Instagramm. The life of a footballer... steady ah... wonder if he's telling us something
If you want to read further into this, you need to decide whether to focus on his apparels or car.
If you want to read further into this, you need to decide whether to focus on his apparels or car.
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Chelsea 1-0 up v Pool.
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and Real lost 1-3 to PSG.
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Full time Chelsea 1-0 Pool, Fabregas got a red card in 70th min and Pool had 65% of possession.
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Arsenal won't spend big money to compete with rivals, says Ivan Gazidishis ideal or A.W??
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I think ball is now on Sakho's court on how he is going to respond to this.
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probably stereo typing but this is typical frenchman for you...
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Arsenal won't spend big money to compete with rivals, says Ivan Gazidis
his ideal or A.W??
they perfer their money in the banks
Maybe he is just telling a selling club that they are not going to ge chopped carrot?
Ya its seems something is holding up this transfer as most conditions have been met. Common belief is that it's the agent's fee that is holding it up but bro O23 has a point that unlikely the agent being the problem so perhaps Pogba still keen on joining RM which if true, United shld pull out after agreeing to pay such an astronomical sum as no point trying for a player whose heart is not there.
Anyway, the rumored fall backs of Matuidi n Matic are more affordable and good enough though Matic will be hard to pry from Chelsea I feel. We shall see how this pans out as this transfer alone could start the merry go round to trigger other transfers.
Again speaking purely from playing Fifa on ps4 experience.
Haha ...
Matic is another beast
It's strange that no big team likes matuidi since he is another makelele mould type.
Again speaking purely from playing Fifa on ps4 experience.
Haha ...
Matic is another beast�
Pogba can add value�as another dimension�from an attacking sense which Matuidi and�Matic can't so to be fair that's why he is worth more plus his age is a plus factor. I guess United has to decide what exactly do they want from MF. Pogba is obviously a good to have but personally I don't see him as a must have. United have plenty�of options�in MF both from attacking and defensive perspective so perhaps it's as some bros have posted, they want to make a statement?��
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100mil valued players shld be game changers and it is left to be seen if he is one. Suarez was during his Pool time and so too CR7 during his United days and def Henry when he was at Arsenal. Hazard was to a certain extent 2 seasons back but other then these, don't really remember other game changers in the EPL before. Must put a disclaimer that naming of game changers is subjective but more important is whether Pogba can be one?
Pogba can add value�as another dimension�from an attacking sense which Matuidi and�Matic can't so to be fair that's why he is worth more plus his age is a plus factor. I guess United has to decide what exactly do they want from MF. Pogba is obviously a good to have but personally I don't see him as a must have. United have plenty�of options�in MF both from attacking and defensive perspective so perhaps it's as some bros have posted, they want to make a statement?��
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100mil valued players shld be game changers and it is left to be seen if he is one. Suarez was during his Pool time and so too CR7 during his United days and def Henry when he was at Arsenal. Hazard was to a certain extent 2 seasons back but other then these, don't really remember other game changers in the EPL before. Must put a disclaimer that naming of game changers is subjective but more important is whether Pogba can be one?
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Ya Ashley also one of the not so good owners but to be fair he did spend last season but abit too late and on rush transfers with some being done in Jan which is not ideal.
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As I posted few days back, I supported football years ago�when owners were families who had no agenda other than the well being of the clubs and hence I'm always skeptical of new owners when they come in.
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The Hill Wood Family(Arsenal), Moores Family(Pool), Mears Family(Chelsea), Edwards Family(Man United) are examples of owners who�passed on the ownerships of the clubs to their children and were very supportive of the club, fans and community in general which is what football should be all about.�
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I guess I have to accept that English football has evolved into�a big money business which inevitably attracts both good and bad owners. Last word on this is that be careful what you wish for cos new owners coming in could be worse than Ashley. Anyway, good luck for promotion next season cos the Toon faithful surely deserves Premier League football at the very least for their loyal support
Pogba can add value�as another dimension�from an attacking sense which Matuidi and�Matic can't so to be fair that's why he is worth more plus his age is a plus factor. I guess United has to decide what exactly do they want from MF. Pogba is obviously a good to have but personally I don't see him as a must have. United have plenty�of options�in MF both from attacking and defensive perspective so perhaps it's as some bros have posted, they want to make a statement?��
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100mil valued players shld be game changers and it is left to be seen if he is one. Suarez was during his Pool time and so too CR7 during his United days and def Henry when he was at Arsenal. Hazard was to a certain extent 2 seasons back but other then these, don't really remember other game changers in the EPL before. Must put a disclaimer that naming of game changers is subjective but more important is whether Pogba can be one?
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if talking about recent times, i think aguero and david de gea should be considered a game changer too
if talking about recent times, i think aguero and david de gea should be considered a game changer
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As I mentioned, it's subjective but my idea of game changers are normally forwards who can win a game on their own esp when it's moving towards a deadlock with�2 well marshaled defences being superior.�Going back to my original post, is Pogba that kind of player? I have my doubts but let him prove to us EPL fans who doubt him that he�can be a game changer!!
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Players in that price bracket like Suarez, Bale, CR7 are game changers for sure.��
Pogba can add value�as another dimension�from an attacking sense which Matuidi and�Matic can't so to be fair that's why he is worth more plus his age is a plus factor. I guess United has to decide what exactly do they want from MF. Pogba is obviously a good to have but personally I don't see him as a must have. United have plenty�of options�in MF both from attacking and defensive perspective so perhaps it's as some bros have posted, they want to make a statement?��
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100mil valued players shld be game changers and it is left to be seen if he is one. Suarez was during his Pool time and so too CR7 during his United days and def Henry when he was at Arsenal. Hazard was to a certain extent 2 seasons back but other then these, don't really remember other game changers in the EPL before. Must put a disclaimer that naming of game changers is subjective but more important is whether Pogba can be one?
You totally omitted the current most ex player... Bale�
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As I mentioned, it's subjective but my idea of game changers are normally forwards who can win a game on their own esp when it's moving towards a deadlock with�2 well marshaled defences being superior.�Going back to my original post, is Pogba that kind of player? I have my doubts but let him prove to us EPL fans who doubt him that he�can be a game changer!!
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Players in that price bracket like Suarez, Bale, CR7 are game changers for sure.��
players that score goal like c.r messi, are more prominent.
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but if pogba is the next vieira, �he is worth that money in today market.
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but the ideal is a.w did not buy vieira at a celling high price , and wat if pogba turn out to be the next balo in the making??
You totally omitted the current most ex player... Bale
Bale probably around the same age as Pogba when he made the record transfer to Real... around 15M pounds lesser than Pogba's asking now... who's a better buy?
Frankly, i rather ManU don't give in if the greedy agent push too much..
Yes Bale is def a game changer n I rate him higher than Pogba when he made his World record tfr to RM. He single handledly lifted Spurs to greater heights n his free kicks were excellent.
Most of us don't see Pogba at the same level as those game changers we mentioned but I'm sure JM n Man United are not so stupid to pay such a fee if he was not special. So let's reserve judgement till he arrives.
players that score goal like c.r messi, are more prominent.
but if pogba is the next vieira, he is worth that money in today market.
but the ideal is a.w did not buy vieira at a celling high price , and wat if pogba turn out to be the next balo in the making??
Vieira was the steel in the Arsenal MF during their title winning days. I don't classify him as a game changer but more of a leader whose physical strength came in very handy in an outstanding Arsenal team n it's precisely this kind of player that Arsenal was crying out for over the last few seasons. Coq has provided abit of steel but he's not a leader like Vieira. Xhaka reputed to be a leader of the Swiss National team so he could be the new Vieira.
As for Pogba being a dud, that's always possible in any transfer but he does seem to be at least temprementally better than Balo ever was so that alone gives him an edge over Balo, we shall see!
Considering Man U paid next to nothing for Howard Webb, who arguably was the greatest game changer of all, Pogba's fees are insane.
Edited by Osprey23, 29 July 2016 - 06:37 AM.
Klopp also revealed possible new role for Milner - backup full backs.
Klopp:�10m for Chilwell having limited EPL experience is too high a fee to pay
Klopp also revealed possible new role for Milner - backup full backs.
Told you before liao.... milner also 1 with no position like your new guy... too versatile
Marhez deal to arsenal, any hope?
Told you before liao.... milner also 1 with no position like your new guy... too versatile
Milner should just be confined to the wings. He is not versatile to play anywhere in the middle. The game vs BVB exposed his lack of positional sense in the middle of the park. He vacate it too often for BVB to find space through with ease. Wijnaldum on the other hand, is comfortable either centrally or on the wings although I see him offering more from a No.8 or 10 position
Edited by Osprey23, 29 July 2016 - 08:45 AM.
Mahrez is looking for a bigger club but Ranieri seems to be firm on not letting him leave. Threatened to relegate him reserve team I think.
Milner should just be confined to the wings. He is not versatile to play anywhere in the middle. The game vs BVB exposed his lack of positional sense in the middle of the park. He vacate it too often for BVB to find space through with ease. Wijnaldum on the other hand, is comfortable either centrally or on the wings although I see him offering more from a No.8 or 10 position
But managers of milner seems to think otherwise... not only klopp
But managers of milner seems to think otherwise... not only klopp
Only 2 persons see him suitable in the centre. BR and Milner himself. Why did Milner sign for us? Because BR promised him to play him centrally.
Edited by Osprey23, 29 July 2016 - 08:57 AM.
Nope. Pellegrini stuck him on the wings. Klopp has no choice as we were lacking in MF options. Next season, barring an injury crisis, we will not be seeing Milner centrally.
Only 2 persons see him suitable in the centre. BR and Milner himself. Why did Milner sign for us? Because BR promised him to play him centrally.�
http://www.dailymail...tal-Palace.html
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�In an interview with�The Guardian, the City manager insisted that Milner�s qualities made him England�s most versatile player.
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Personally I don't think its a good idea but Klopp knows best I suppose.
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My take on FB has always been he has to a defender first and foremost, attacking capabilities are a bonus though admittedly in the modern game, attacking options are a must for a FB. Look at Walker of Spurs, he's a liability defending though he is very good at attacking and mind you he's a proper FB.
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The plus about Milner is his work rate so obviously he's a good candidate from that point of view but just have a feeling he'll be exposed defensively and end up neither here nor there, just my 2 cents.
Seem like JM is getting his 120m player soon.
Got chance. He wants to go after they sold his best mate Umtiti.
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I apologise to Mr Wenger. Its not he dun wanna spend.
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�Arsenal cannot compete financially with rival clubs - CEO�
(Reuters) - Arsenal do not have the financial strength to "outgun" Premier League rivals in the transfer market and have to be careful in signing new players, according to the club's chief executive Ivan Gazidis.
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Arsenal finished a distant second to champions Leicester City last season and fans have vented frustration at the lack of big-money signings.
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Over the past few years, Arsenal have signed marquee names like Germany midfielder Mesut Ozil and Chile winger Alexis Sanchez, but they have still spent considerably less than many of their rivals.
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"We can't afford to outgun competitors that have far more money -- we have to be very careful, very selective," Gazidis told British media.
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"That means we can't afford to make huge mistakes in the transfer market. The constraints within the Premier League are less and less about pure finances.
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"More relatively important become things like how well you identify players, how well you develop players, what kind of sports science you have, your analytics, your psychology."
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Manager Arsene Wenger has made three additions to his squad so far, in midfielder Granit Xhaka, defender Rob Holding and striker Takuma Asano, and, according to media reports, is actively looking for another forward.
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Personally I don't think its a good idea but Klopp knows best I suppose.
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My take on FB has always been he has to a defender first and foremost, attacking capabilities are a bonus though admittedly in the modern game, attacking options are a must for a FB. Look at Walker of Spurs, he's a liability defending though he is very good at attacking and mind you he's a proper FB.
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The plus about Milner is his work rate so obviously he's a good candidate from that point of view but just have a feeling he'll be exposed defensively and end up neither here nor there, just my 2 cents.
mayb klopp thinking....if a certain someone can put pure attacking players as wingbacks, surely a better, workhorse player can play as LB.�
Seem like JM is getting his 120m player soon.
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Too much drama and posturing
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Personally I don't think its a good idea but Klopp knows best I suppose.
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My take on FB has always been he has to a defender first and foremost, attacking capabilities are a bonus though admittedly in the modern game, attacking options are a must for a FB. Look at Walker of Spurs, he's a liability defending though he is very good at attacking and mind you he's a proper FB.
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The plus about Milner is his work rate so obviously he's a good candidate from that point of view but just have a feeling he'll be exposed defensively and end up neither here nor there, just my 2 cents.
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actually... it seems to be BR all over again...
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i wonder why no one buy ricardo rodriguez ... i tot his release clause quite low
http://www.dailymail...tal-Palace.html
A quick brainstorm reveals that Milner has now played up to seven positions in a Manchester City shirt - in both full-back positions, across the midfield, behind the frontman and now as an old-fashioned No 9.
http://www.telegraph...Pellegrini.html
In an interview with The Guardian, the City manager insisted that Milner�s qualities made him England�s most versatile player.
if i rem correctly, he only really played as a winger for leeds
�The club wants Milner to continue and he wants to stay, but maybe he wants more games,� he said. �I am Milner�s No?1 fan � find me a more complete English player. There are players who are better technically, yes. Quicker players, yes. Players who head better, yes. But show me one who does all the things Milner does well. There isn�t one.
"Milner is a phenomenon, a guy with big balls and a heart this big. I hope he stays. If he doesn�t, it will be because there�s an important offer [from elsewhere].�
Exact words from Pellegrini from that article. Not sure about you but being "complete" does it equate to "versatile"? My view is no.
No doubt, Pellegrini wants him to stay on as a City player but unable to give him the game time he desired because he see Milner as a wide man and he is a back up.
That's how BR managed to persuade him to join Pool, agreeing with Milner that he has the ability to play in the middle of the park. Even made him Vice Captain. Pretty desperate to get Milner then.
Personally I don't think its a good idea but Klopp knows best I suppose.
My take on FB has always been he has to a defender first and foremost, attacking capabilities are a bonus though admittedly in the modern game, attacking options are a must for a FB. Look at Walker of Spurs, he's a liability defending though he is very good at attacking and mind you he's a proper FB.
The plus about Milner is his work rate so obviously he's a good candidate from that point of view but just have a feeling he'll be exposed defensively and end up neither here nor there, just my 2 cents.
Milner's workrate and crossing ability makes him a decent back up imo. With the lesser games next season, Klopp might be willing to risk it by having only his 2 first choice FBs and Milner as cover.
I apologise to Mr Wenger. Its not he dun wanna spend.
Its his club got no money. They are too small to compete
with the big clubs. Not I say one hor. Arsenal CEO say one.
There is no reason to compete in the same pool of players with the mega rich clubs. If Arsenal need a MF, instead of spending �100m on Pogba, they might see a �30m Matuidi making more financial sense. Just as an example
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minor correction - rich and big different
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just got very little money only.
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For a player to be able to make shift in various positions does not make him versatile. Maybe our interpretation of the term is different. To me, a versatile player must be able to play is various position and perform well in them. Milner is not versatile imo because he only does well on the wings.
Exact words from Pellegrini from that article. Not sure about you but being "complete" does it equate to "versatile"? My view is no.
No doubt, Pellegrini wants him to stay on as a City player but unable to give him the game time he desired because he see Milner as a wide man and he is a back up.
That's how BR managed to persuade him to join Pool, agreeing with Milner that he has the ability to play in the middle of the park. Even made him Vice Captain. Pretty desperate to get Milner then.�
haha ok... then i have to agree.... he reminds me of dirk kyut.... where got hole... put him in to plug
Sorry sorry Arsenal are a big club, very big club
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just got very little money only.
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fan based wise , in bpl... man u and pool still biggest....... no dispute on that....
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not sure if success bring riches.... man c and chelsea were not successful and they managed to get rich owner...�
Think the pogba deal will be concluded today. Good gracious, what a long saga�
I am agreeing to what Arsenal's CEO had said actually. It actually goes very well with what Klopp said as well.
There is no reason to compete in the same pool of players with the mega rich clubs. If Arsenal need a MF, instead of spending �100m on Pogba, they might see a �30m Matuidi making more financial sense. Just as an example�
Jamesc just taking a pot shot at arsenal..... deep down inside he knows what Gaizidis says is right.... just like how deep down inside he is a lesbian in a male body
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on matuidi... i wonder if we had not bought xhaka so early.. would we have gone for matuidi instead
Think the pogba deal will be concluded today. Good gracious, what a long saga�
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Lol, it could not be a longer saga than the sales of AC Milan...
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Edited by Noob79, 29 July 2016 - 11:02 AM.
minor correction - rich and big different
actually... it seems to be BR all over again...
i wonder why no one buy ricardo rodriguez ... i tot his release clause quite low
Klopp is never going to be the same as BR imo. He is far better in judging players' ability. Klopp was questioning BR's decision to play Sahin as a No.10 during his loan spell with us.
Rodriguez is a x file seriously. Rumoured having a �24m release clause.
ars definitely big club. pool also big club. but not so big bank account.
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Wenger wouldn't have gotten Matuidi I'm quite sure cos of his age and no sell on value anymore.
Klopp is never going to be the same as BR imo. He is far better in judging players' ability. Klopp was questioning BR's decision to play Sahin as a No.10 during his loan spell with us.
Rodriguez is a x file seriously. Rumoured having a �24m release clause.�
24m is not high if he is really as good as he is make out to be........... i wonder why is no one buying him
Wenger wouldn't have gotten Matuidi I'm quite sure cos of his age and no sell on value anymore.
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i used to think that till he put in a bid for vardy.........lol
Edited by Galantspeedz, 29 July 2016 - 11:08 AM.
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i used to think that till he put in a bid for vardy.........lol
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Vardy I believe is considered cheap for a striker despite his age as the other options are�so much more ex. DM prices seems to be also 30m+ so comparing Xhaka and Matuidi being of almost similar value,�it would be a no brainer for the value conscious Wenger.�
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Actually I'm surprised he didn't opt for Kante but my guess it's the pay is much�higher and other reason could be he wants more from a DM which Kante might not provide?? Guessing only.
ars definitely big club. pool also big club. but not so big bank account.
.... and not so big trophy cabinet�
Vardy I believe is considered cheap for a striker despite his age as the other options are�so much more ex. DM prices seems to be also 30m+ so comparing Xhaka and Matuidi being of almost similar value,�it would be a no brainer for the value conscious Wenger.�
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Actually I'm surprised he didn't opt for Kante but my guess it's the pay is much�higher and other reason could be he wants more from a DM which Kante might not provide?? Guessing only.
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chelsea came in.. pay wise no fight... if kante earns more than ozil and sanchez.... or even the same... i think both ozil and sanchez will be very unhappy
.... and not so big trophy cabinet�
who's trophy cabinet?
haha ok... then i have to agree.... he reminds me of dirk kyut.... where got hole... put him in to plug
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fan based wise , in bpl... man u and pool still biggest....... no dispute on that....
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not sure if success bring riches.... man c and chelsea were not successful and they managed to get rich owner...�
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Wei.... you trying to get yellow card ah
Wei.... you trying to get yellow card ah
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true mah... they became successful only after they became rich
"I won't make 100 mil signing" -Klopp
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"I won't spend millions on supercar"-� Yours truly.
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In very obvious truth, I have no millions (not even in rupiah) to spend.
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In deference to Klopp and LFC, I won't say that they are in similar situation.�
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Arsenal beat MLS all stars 2-1 this morning.
Trust that it was Drogba who scored against the Gunners, Wenger must be damn happy he's not around anymore in the EPL haha
Arsenal beat MLS all stars 2-1 this morning.
Trust that it was Drogba who scored against the Gunners, Wenger must be damn happy he's not around anymore in the EPL haha
"I won't make 100 mil signing" -Klopp
"I won't spend millions on supercar"- Yours truly.
In very obvious truth, I have no millions (not even in rupiah) to spend.
In deference to Klopp and LFC, I won't say that they are in similar situation.
Arsenal beat MLS all stars 2-1 this morning.
Trust that it was Drogba who scored against the Gunners, Wenger must be damn happy he's not around anymore in the EPL haha
16 games 16 goals... really like a curse sia
Klopp is never going to be the same as BR imo. He is far better in judging players' ability. Klopp was questioning BR's decision to play Sahin as a No.10 during his loan spell with us.
Rodriguez is a x file seriously. Rumoured having a �24m release clause.�
yah.. this 1 is a mystery...
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unless RR only wants to play in GBL and not even liga or BPL...
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swiss player afraid to venture out of his comfort zone?... or VW sponsor him alot stuff only in germany?..
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Looks like shxx, smells like shxx, really is shxx. Not in deference to you or MUFC :P
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What else can you expect from someone who dares not walk alone?
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Article from teamtalk regarding Pool's pre-season matches so far and the concerns......
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http://www.teamtalk....ence-looks-weak
Article from teamtalk regarding Pool's pre-season matches so far and the concerns......
http://www.teamtalk....ence-looks-weak
Valid concerns but Klavan 5th choice? I don't think so. He is basically Skrtel with better composure and passing. Expecting the 4 CBs to fight it out over the starting berths.
Moreno is an easy target imo. Did he really did badly in the last friendly? Keep hearing people talking about the defeat to Sevilla but I am just not sure why Lovren didn't take as much criticism for the poor defensive position he took for their 2 goals
Valid concerns but Klavan 5th choice? I don't think so. He is basically Skrtel with better composure and passing. Expecting the 4 CBs to fight it out over the starting berths.
Moreno is an easy target imo. Did he really did badly in the last friendly? Keep hearing people talking about the defeat to Sevilla but I am just not sure why Lovren didn't take as much criticism for the poor defensive position he took for their 2 goalsI didn't have a chance to watch the Che v Pool match.
But the few comments which were common from various reports were:
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1) Same old Chelsea with only bus captain changed
2) Same old Pool with suspect defence esp at set pieces
3) The game was anything but a friendly
4) John Terry was not only Chelsea's best defender but best defender�on the pitch
I didn't have a chance to watch the Che v Pool match.
But the few comments which were common from various reports were:
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1) Same old Chelsea with only bus captain changed
2) Same old Pool with suspect defence esp at set pieces
3) The game was anything but a friendly
4) John Terry was not only Chelsea's best defender but best defender�on the pitch
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it's conte.... he will make parking bus into an art......
it's conte.... he will make parking bus into an art......
Basically, JM parked it in a boring reverse parking but Conte did it with a fancy handbreak turn and slide into the lotBasically, JM parked it in a boring reverse parking but Conte did it with a fancy handbreak turn and slide into the lot
smart strategy
act tough
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Saw this report in Mirror.......
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Arsenal set price cap for Lacazette
Arsenal will not increase their offer for Alexandre Lacazette above �33.7million (�40million), according to Squawka.
The Gunners have already had a �29million approach for the Lyon front man turned down - but they are expected to come back with a second bid.
But they will refuse to go higher on the price, should their latest transfer attempt be shunted.
They will cap their spending at the same price as what Chelsea paid for Michy Batushuayi, as Arsene Wenger reportedly scouted both men and saw them at a similar level.
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The English captain may be losing his steam and power
But on the pitch, he still fights for every ball
Goes back to defend
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Think still got use lah
If I'm not wrong , the useless captain is earning 300k per month !!
If Pogba earn more than him , I very sure that he will gonna threaten to quit the club again.
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Yannick Bolasie lauds Crystal Palace�s �30m pursuit of �fresh face� Christian Benteke
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Liverpool news: Jurgen Klopp considers playing James Milner at left-back after giving up on Ben Chilwell�
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[Globo Esporte]
Migs will start the season then
The English captain may be losing his steam and power
But on the pitch, he still fights for every ball
Goes back to defend
Not exactly an overpaid lazy bum
Think still got use lah
Ajax is fightinh with BVB to become my second favorite team. Suarez and now Balotelli
Fabinho is close to leaving Monaco. Manchester United are negotiating his purchase with the endorsement of Jos� Mourinho.
[Globo Esporte]This will be a good buy.
However, from ManU history, no Brazilian have ever succeeded .
Baca Ron must be saying heng ah didn't choose to go Manu previously.
is merseyside turning blue also??
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everton reject �57m bid for lukaku .�
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the style of a big club in the making.
is merseyside turning blue also??
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over-rated. With the TV money, many English clubs can play tough. Want to buy, only at MY price
Monchi's magic
Edited by Osprey23, 30 July 2016 - 01:57 PM.
Mahrez wants �100kpw to stay at Leicester
Imo, he is more than worth it
So cheap????? I prefer him to lacazetteWissam Ben Yedder chooses Sevilla, will join for less than �9m; PSG, Arsenal, Lyon, West Ham & Leicester interested.
Monchi's magic
I wonder when sevilla buy these players for cheap,.is it because there is a huge sell on clause for the original club
Edited by Galantspeedz, 30 July 2016 - 03:56 PM.
http://www.mirror.co...p-hails-8522741
Incidentally I find Manu fans strange. When Chelsea and Man C broke their stranglehold, they claim those clubs no history la, use money and buy title la etc..When they splash cash in excess of �100m on one player, "because we can".
Hur hur.
Disclaimer: banter only k.
Edited by Chansters, 30 July 2016 - 05:42 PM.
Karius out for 2 months with a broken bone.
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MY 1MDB double track electric rail prices?
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Please leave my good fren out of this.
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Liverpool news: Jurgen Klopp considers playing James Milner at left-back after giving up on Ben Chilwell�
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I have been reading Real Madrid and Barca
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To those always wondering is this Klopp's team already anot. Yup the man himself has said it is.
http://www.mirror.co...p-hails-8522741
Incidentally I find Manu fans strange. When Chelsea and Man C broke their stranglehold, they claim those clubs no history la, use money and buy title la etc..When they splash cash in excess of £100m on one player, "because we can".
Hur hur.
Disclaimer: banter only k.
Can't understand why did wanayama cost 11m but sadio mane cost 30m
Playing position? Remaining contract?
Contract I see is 1 left 1 year, 1 left 2 years
Can't understand why did wanayama cost 11m but sadio mane cost 30m
Answer is found in Economics 101 sir.
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More 'Wanayama' type and lesser of 'Mane' type of players in the transfer market.
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At the same time more clubs want to buy "Mane' type of players.
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So Pool has to suck it up with their bids.
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[Paul Pogba is by far a more scary example of the economic forces at work]
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Contract I see is 1 left 1 year, 1 left 2 years
Galatasaray reported to have struck a deal with Liverpool over the transfer of Lucas on a 3-year contract worth �2.7m per season
Interesting 4-3-2-1 lineup. AA as RB, Milner as LB, Hendo as DM.
Huge difference. 1 year left if player wants to leave, your bargaining power is significantly weaken. Keeping Wanyama for another year, he leaves for free. Keeping Mane for another year, they can still sell him for £25m or so if he continues to do well
Benteke also 30m rated leh. Lol
3 more years on his contract I think.
Edited by Osprey23, 31 July 2016 - 10:05 AM.
Can't understand why did wanayama cost 11m but sadio mane cost 30m
"A horse of thousand teeth does not perform well. A horse with a nice Mane is more sought after."
hope liverpool performed well this season and quality for UCL next season! Although without any big names added, their current line up look more solid and reliable compared to previous season. If Klopp can gel the team together I am sure they can beat teams with more expensive signings.
Nice. Another one coming home
Not sure how true but I believe Arsenal should really aim higher
Arsenal are weighing up a �16million bid for West Bromwich Albion centre-back Jonny Evans. [Daily Mail]
Not sure how true but I believe Arsenal should really aim higher
Ex man u cb.....anyway pls no!!! Heng source is dailyfail
http://www.mirror.co...-league-8535701
�29m for Firmino is it excessive? I think is subjective. �23m plus �6m I feel is reasonable
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Edited by Osprey23, 01 August 2016 - 09:03 AM.
Ah Seng describes MU's 100 mil bid as complete madness.
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If it's madness, I am sure many gunners' fans would much prefer Ah Seng to be equally mad than the ultra-sane economist who locks the millions into bank account.
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Talking about madness, how about bidding for Lacazette at a lower bid than that of the Hammers' which was already
rejected by Lyon. Expect Lyon to sell its player cheaper to him just because Gunner is bigger than Hammer?
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Not sure which is the bigger madness.
Edited by Ngseeming, 01 August 2016 - 08:53 AM.
It is official. BPL clubs are carrot heads in the eyes of others in Europe
http://www.mirror.co...-league-8535701
�29m for Firmino is it excessive? I think is subjective. �23m plus �6m I feel is reasonable
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but went out leh.... lol�
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firmino hair in pig tail?
Ah Seng describes MU's 100 mil bid as complete madness.
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If it's madness, I am sure many gunners' fans would much prefer Ah Seng to be equally mad than the ultra-sane economist who locks the millions into bank account.
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Talking about madness, how about bidding for Lacazette at a lower bid than that of the Hammers' which was already
rejected by Lyon. Expect Lyon to sell its player cheaper to him just because Gunner is bigger than Hammer?
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Not sure which is the bigger madness.
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i guess it depends on the terms of the bid.... Arsenal may have provided for a larger upfront payment.....
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pogba being bought for 100m is madness to many people..... partly because they can't afford it......
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i see couple go makan few hundred bucks for a meal i also think is madness.... lol �
Ben Chilwell ?
Jonas Hector ?
Sead Kolasinac
but went out leh.... lol
firmino hair in pig tail?
As for his hair, I can only say he needs to find another barber�
Time for AC Milan to look for some bargains from this lot, Adnan Januzaj and Bastian Schweinsteiger are potential gems for this current Milan team...
this ayew piece seems to be paper talk at best at this stage. �decent player but can't see how he can improve the current squad any further. �
�20m is still no bleeding joke for a bloke who was willing to play for free for Pool and then join Swansea on a free transfer in June 2015.�
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Of course, the transfer market is always right if another club values him as such. Just how whimsical epl is.
Sterling will be starting from the bench then.
Edited by Osprey23, 01 August 2016 - 08:15 PM.
Yes, most think it is "complete madness" to pay 100mil for a player
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But many fans also think it is also "complete madness" to help the owners to save this kind of $$�
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Ah Seng describes MU's 100 mil bid as complete madness.
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If it's madness, I am sure many gunners' fans would much prefer Ah Seng to be equally mad than the ultra-sane economist who locks the millions into bank account.
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Talking about madness, how about bidding for Lacazette at a lower bid than that of the Hammers' which was already
rejected by Lyon. Expect Lyon to sell its player cheaper to him just because Gunner is bigger than Hammer?
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Not sure which is the bigger madness.
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Watch some videos of Pogba and I realize he actually can provide another dimension to Man Utd's play. Other than his obvious attacking power (dribbling, shooting etc), his playing making skills (crosses, long cross-field passes, picking out open team mates) are what separates him from other one dimensional players. Not to mention his admirable physical attributes�
Apparently Juve will report 89 mil pounds nia. To pay less tax lol
Man Utd's outlay on Pogba is around �145m, but of which, Juventus only receive �98m. The rest going to agent fee and player sign on fee.
Actually they didn't lie.
Man Utd's outlay on Pogba is around �145m, but of which, Juventus only receive �98m. The rest going to agent fee and player sign on fee.
Please Ajax. A fraction of it and you get Super Mario
Watch some videos of Pogba and I realize he actually can provide another dimension to Man Utd's play. Other than his obvious attacking power (dribbling, shooting etc), his playing making skills (crosses, long cross-field passes, picking out open team mates) are what separates him from other one dimensional players. Not to mention his admirable physical attributes�
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think no one is denying the obvious talents of this player.�
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the question is why and how can it be 100M? that's the real debate...�
DONE DEAL: Arkadiusz Milik has joined Napoli from Ajax for a reported �34m, signing a 5-year contract.
Please Ajax. A fraction of it and you get Super Mario�
Pool should do more to aggressive market Mario off... �price is least of our concerns :)�
think no one is denying the obvious talents of this player.
the question is why and how can it be 100M? that's the real debate...
Pool should do more to aggressive market Mario off... price is least of our concerns :)
Apparently I just wake up from my sleep
Breaking : JM is keen to reunite with Mario this season!! Adding further fire powder to their glaring attack capability.
Apparently I just wake up from my sleep�
lol. dun think JM will EVER wanna play Super Mario again..�
Breaking : JM is keen to reunite with Mario this season!! Adding further fire powder to their glaring attack capability.
Apparently I just wake up from my sleep�
Lucky you.
Jack Wilshere is injured AGAIN...
Edited by L23, 02 August 2016 - 01:10 PM.
Finally got some gunner news !!
Jack Wilshere is injured AGAIN...�
too much cigar...�
Arsenal to return with improved bid for Lacazette and pursuing Shkodran Mustafi
These are the quality of players Wenger should be looking at
This is really bad... he used to be one of my favorite midfielders in Football Manager...
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http://www.dailymail...-free-club.html
This is really bad... he used to be one of my favorite midfielders in Football Manager...
http://www.dailymail...-free-club.html
With new boss eager to prove himself as The Special One , the manager is looking for instant success which I think the player is too old to make a impact.
Interestingly, JM bring in 2 old bird , Drogba and Zalatan.
BS is gonna have the same fate as the previous German captain , Michael Ballack
Basically going to Manu is just a short term buying time approach from him. He know his time is up in BM and Manu is facing confidence issue which give him an opportunity to go over.
With new boss eager to prove himself as The Special One , the manager is looking for instant success which I think the player is too old to make a impact.
Interestingly, JM bring in 2 old bird , Drogba and Zalatan.
BS is gonna have the same fate as the previous German captain , Michael Ballack�
That is really bad, actually, i think he play pretty well during Euros, always got into goal scoring position, pretty much of a goal scoring threat for Germany...
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Pool went in for him at �12m before Euro I was told. Koln I guess didn't accept that and up the price after Euro.
Let's see if we get any luck on the next on list.
Potentially another big money move on the card
Draxler: "Wolfsburg promised I can leave if an opportunity arose. 2 days after Euros I said I want to leave" (Bild)
Potentially another big money move on the card�
he is not top pick for BPL clubs.. too injury prone... �
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he seems to be another exciting player not fated to be seen regularly on our football staple... �
Draxler: "Wolfsburg promised I can leave if an opportunity arose. 2 days after Euros I said I want to leave" (Bild)
Potentially another big money move on the card�
Great player but too easy to get injured.�
Paris St-Germain have agreed a fee of 25m euros with Real Madrid for Spanish winger Jese Rodriguez. (Source - Marca)
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For a moment I was thinking this guy is James Rodriguez and was like BECOME SO CHEAP !?!?!�
Chelsea are willing to offer �65 million plus French striker Loic Remy to Everton for Romelu Lukaku [Daily Mail]
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Wah, another rich club regret on earlier decision.
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So now
RL = LR +��65 million
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If Sturridge stays fit and top scores the coming season in BPL, will Chelsea come with a higher bid?�
Wah, another rich club regret on earlier decision.
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So now
RL = LR +��65 million
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If Sturridge stays fit and top scores the coming season in BPL, will Chelsea come with a higher bid?�
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all these are rumours man.. end of the day.. the highest fee pay so far is STILL angel di maria.. �
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to me.. this is so typical of the english media.. always like to blow up things.. self-indulging
Football transfer rumours: Liverpool to sign Jonas Hector from K�ln?
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[This transfer is long overdue if Pool wants to be top 4. Defence is iffy still after the Roma game]
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https://www.theguard...nas-hector-koln
Edited by cashcow, 03 August 2016 - 05:09 PM.
all these are rumours man.. end of the day.. the highest fee pay so far is STILL angel di maria.. �
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to me.. this is so typical of the english media.. always like to blow up things.. self-indulging
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From what I read, Chelsea are serious in getting Lukaku back so highly likely the British record transfer fee of Angel de Maria will be broken if it has not already been broken by the Pogba transfer.
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Having said that, Everton has a rich backer who will not give up Lukaku so easily but do you insist on keeping a player who wants to go or just get the highest possible price and release him? Tough decisions but I'm leaning towards letting him leave and actually Remy is not too bad provided he's given an extended run in the team which is possible at Goodison.
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Scary. I don't think I can recognise the team next season.
From what I read, Chelsea are serious in getting Lukaku back so highly likely the British record transfer fee of Angel de Maria will be broken if it has not already been broken by the Pogba transfer.
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Having said that, Everton has a rich backer who will not give up Lukaku so easily but do you insist on keeping a player who wants to go or just get the highest possible price and release him? Tough decisions but I'm leaning towards letting him leave and actually Remy is not too bad provided he's given an extended run in the team which is possible at Goodison.
�Lukaku is that good meh??
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or the price is simply crazy?? �65m might as well try A.M that france striker.
Football transfer rumours: Liverpool to sign Jonas Hector from Köln?
[This transfer is long overdue if Pool wants to be top 4. Defence is iffy still after the Roma game]
https://www.theguard...nas-hector-koln
We need a LB for sure. Let's see who we end up with eventually
Lukaku is that good meh??
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or the price is simply crazy?? �65m might as well try A.M that france striker.
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In a nutshell, IMO Lukaku's not worth 65mil. Then again, a lot of the transfers this window are at absurd prices so either you pay up or walk away.
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As for Griezmann, he is not for sale and even if he is, at today's prices, he will be worth closer to 90-100mil for sure. That's why Wenger and Klopp are baulking.
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In May 2017, we shall see whether City, United, Chelsea who are spending big will get their output justified or the more cautious teams like Arsenal, Pool, Spurs will�get the last laugh.
In a nutshell, IMO Lukaku's not worth 65mil. Then again, a lot of the transfers this window are at absurd prices so either you pay up or walk away.
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As for Griezmann, he is not for sale and even if he is, at today's prices, he will be worth closer to 90-100mil for sure. That's why Wenger and Klopp are baulking.
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In May 2017, we shall see whether City, United, Chelsea who are spending big will get their output justified or the more cautious teams like Arsenal, Pool, Spurs will�get the last laugh.
i see him play.
at most i would say he is strong n powerful. can shoot can head.
he dun impressive me with his ball skills .
i like chel. dun know wat they thinking, 65m for this guy...
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di maria is worth that much, he is really good. LVG fail to make good use of him.
but lukaku ....�
In a nutshell, IMO Lukaku's not worth 65mil. Then again, a lot of the transfers this window are at absurd prices so either you pay up or walk away.
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As for Griezmann, he is not for sale and even if he is, at today's prices, he will be worth closer to 90-100mil for sure. That's why Wenger and Klopp are baulking.
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In May 2017, we shall see whether City, United, Chelsea who are spending big will get their output justified or the more cautious teams like Arsenal, Pool, Spurs will�get the last laugh.
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Yup, the prices are absurd, hopefully some minor teams with minimal spending can spring an upset again, however, it is a very big hope
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i see him play.
at most i would say he is strong n powerful. can shoot can head.
he dun impressive me with his ball skills .
i like chel. dun know wat they thinking, 65m for this guy...
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di maria is worth that much, he is really good. LVG fail to make good use of him.
but lukaku ....�
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Quite agree with your assessment. In fact, I don't see why Chelsea need another striker at all cos Costa, Bashuayi and Remy should be sufficient and they still have youngsters like Traore and Conte has mentioned Loftus Cheek as well. Even Hazard can play as a second striker if needed.
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That said, only Costa is a target man type of striker so they may want cover but Lukaku would expect to play so it's not going to be easy keeping both happy.
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Ironical isn't it, Chelsea willing to pay big money even for cover** whilst Arsenal on the other hand won't and looking at cheaper options instead which is prudent but not sure if this should be the way?
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**Chelsea could play 2 upfront next season so both Lukaku and Costa could start?
Quite agree with your assessment. In fact, I don't see why Chelsea need another striker at all cos Costa, Bashuayi and Remy should be sufficient and they still have youngsters like Traore and Conte has mentioned Loftus Cheek as well. Even Hazard can play as a second striker if needed.
That said, only Costa is a target man type of striker so they may want cover but Lukaku would expect to play so it's not going to be easy keeping both happy.
Ironical isn't it, Chelsea willing to pay big money even for cover** whilst Arsenal on the other hand won't and looking at cheaper options instead which is prudent but not sure if this should be the way?
**Chelsea could play 2 upfront next season so both Lukaku and Costa could start?
Anyway if Progba can worth 120m, I dun see why Luka don't worth half of the price.
He's as young as Progba, can score goal and win matches.
Resale value confirm is there.
These rocket prices just make players like CR7, Bale and Neymar look cheap
Hearsay Costa on his way back to Madrid.
Anyway if Progba can worth 120m, I dun see why Luka don't worth half of the price.
He's as young as Progba, can score goal and win matches.
Resale value confirm is there.
These rocket prices just make players like CR7, Bale and Neymar look cheap�
Yes that's the other theory as well that Lukaku is a replacement for Costa.
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This theory more viable cos the 65mil can be covered quite abit by proceeds from Costa's sale but AM just signed a striker from Sevilla I think and with Griezmann and Torres in the squad as well, I don't see how they can afford to pay for Costa or can they?�
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Yes those 3 you mention are game changers so surely they are worth their $
all these are rumours man.. end of the day.. the highest fee pay so far is STILL angel di maria..
to me.. this is so typical of the english media.. always like to blow up things.. self-indulging
And the biggest transfer paid this season so far in bpl is everybody's favourite stingy wenger
Everton have an audacious move across Merseyside for Benteke lined up in the event that Chelsea meet their valuation for Lukaku (Mirror)
That would be real fun for Everton then :)
Not every club have the money power as Juventus wor
And the biggest transfer paid this season so far in bpl is everybody's favourite stingy wenger
I thought Sane at �37mil beats Xhaka's �32-35mil?
Lukaku scored 44 in 94 games for Everton. Imagine him having better providers to feed him.
Soccernet hinted at what I suspected thus far: Pogba's deal was long done and dusted. The protracted saga is just a PR exercise to hold attentions of media and public alike.
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Pogba is still on holiday till end of the week. Deal confirmation would not get him to OT b4 next week anyway. Might as well get the free advertisement going.
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But then I am also a sucker for conspiracy theory
Roberto Martinez appointed Belgium National Team boss.
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Don't feel he's the right fit for the Belgians. They need a coach who is good at organizing them defensively and also to play ugly if needed as a variation to their talented squad. Someone like Conte, Mourinho etc would have been an ideal fit. Don't know what they saw in Martinez who has no International experience and very limited Euro Competition Club exposure as well. Don't get me wrong, Martinez has his strengths but not for a highly ranked National Team like Belgium though.
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http://www.mirror.co...artinez-8556512
I thought Sane at £37mil beats Xhaka's £32-35mil?
But both deals are going to be dwarfed by the mega deal of Pogba. Who will be the most expansive signing is a foregone conclusion
Soccernet hinted at what I suspected thus far: Pogba's deal was long done and dusted. The protracted saga is just a PR exercise to hold attentions of media and public alike.
Pogba is still on holiday till end of the week. Deal confirmation would not get him to OT b4 next week anyway. Might as well get the free advertisement going.
But then I am also a sucker for conspiracy theory
I know the deal was done when Juventus signed Higuain.
Yea you are right bro. Xhaka was the highest fee paid before Sane's deal went through.
But both deals are going to be dwarfed by the mega deal of Pogba. Who will be the most expansive signing is a foregone conclusion�
At the rate the fees are being discussed, I'm quite sure many more higher fees will be concluded other than the Pogba one. Still shaking my head how Higuain can be worth 75mil!!
Roberto Martinez appointed Belgium National Team boss.
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Don't feel he's the right fit for the Belgians. They need a coach who is good at organizing them defensively and also to play ugly if needed as a variation to their talented squad. Someone like Conte, Mourinho etc would have been an ideal fit. Don't know what they saw in Martinez who has no International experience and very limited Euro Competition Club exposure as well. Don't get me wrong, Martinez has his strengths but not for a highly ranked National Team like Belgium though.
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the likes conte n mourinho to me is not a gd fit for them. belgium has some very exciting attacking talents. it will b such a waste to hv them play defensive football.�
Roberto Martinez appointed Belgium National Team boss.
Don't feel he's the right fit for the Belgians. They need a coach who is good at organizing them defensively and also to play ugly if needed as a variation to their talented squad. Someone like Conte, Mourinho etc would have been an ideal fit. Don't know what they saw in Martinez who has no International experience and very limited Euro Competition Club exposure as well. Don't get me wrong, Martinez has his strengths but not for a highly ranked National Team like Belgium though.
http://www.mirror.co...artinez-8556512
They should have gone for LvG. Or maybe Martinez impressed them during the interview by promising to win them the World Cup.
Edited by Osprey23, 04 August 2016 - 09:18 AM.
the likes conte n mourinho to me is not a gd fit for them. belgium has some very exciting attacking talents. it will b such a waste to hv them play defensive football.�
From neutral point of view, yes it's a pity to stifle the obvious talent of the Belgium team.
But it was quite obvious that defensive organization was their downfall at the Euros so that was why I felt a defensive coach would be a good fit. I like Belgium and hope Martinez proves me wrong!
All the good coaches in EPL liao
They should have gone for LvG. Or maybe Martinez impressed them during the interview by promising to win them the World Cup.�
Ya bro, almost any other EPL coach would have been a better fit and definitely LvG is good candidate for Belgium despite his mixed time at United.�
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Like BR, Martinez talks a good game. When he appears on the EPL shows, I enjoy his insights but just can't help feeling he's more talk than action but I wish him and Belgium the best of luck!!
From neutral point of view, yes it's a pity to stifle the obvious talent of the Belgium team.
But it was quite obvious that defensive organization was their downfall at the Euros so that was why I felt a defensive coach would be a good fit. I like Belgium and hope Martinez proves me wrong!
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Ya bro, almost any other EPL coach would have been a better fit and definitely LvG is good candidate for Belgium despite his mixed time at United.�
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Like BR, Martinez talks a good game. When he appears on the EPL shows, I enjoy his insights but just can't help feeling he's more talk than action but I wish him and Belgium the best of luck!!
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Wait you kenna proven wrong when they play against England, then dunno which made you happy/angry more
Wait you kenna proven wrong when they play against England, then dunno which made you happy/angry more
I wish them the worst of luck when playing England
From neutral point of view, yes it's a pity to stifle the obvious talent of the Belgium team.
But it was quite obvious that defensive organization was their downfall at the Euros so that was why I felt a defensive coach would be a good fit. I like Belgium and hope Martinez proves me wrong!
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Ya bro, almost any other EPL coach would have been a better fit and definitely LvG is good candidate for Belgium despite his mixed time at United.�
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Like BR, Martinez talks a good game. When he appears on the EPL shows, I enjoy his insights but just can't help feeling he's more talk than action but I wish him and Belgium the best of luck!!
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This is a golden generation for belgium. If they can't taste success from now till next Euro, then they can wait another generation liao...
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I thought the golden generation portugal team comprising Luis Figo, Couto, Rui Costa, Deco, etc. would definitely win the Euro 04 played on home soil, but they lost in the final to Greece...
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The bunch won the U-20 world cup and should have had a shout at the senior WC/Euro. But alas, opportunity lost.�
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As fate would have it, the far inferior team of 2016 actually did the unfinished business.
Everton have an audacious move across Merseyside for Benteke lined up in the event that Chelsea meet their valuation for Lukaku (Mirror)
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Make sure they know market rate. Lukaku cannot be worth 20m more than Ben.
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So if they get 65m plus Remy, they should value Ben at 45m. Since they showed class for Hillsborough, we will be nice to promote good neighbourliness, and let them keep the extra player.
This is a golden generation for belgium. If they can't taste success from now till next Euro, then they can wait another generation liao...
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I thought the golden generation portugal team comprising Luis Figo, Couto, Rui Costa, Deco, etc. would definitely win the Euro 04 played on home soil, but they lost in the final to Greece...
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The bunch won the U-20 world cup and should have had a shout at the senior WC/Euro. But alas, opportunity lost.�
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As fate would have it, the far inferior team of 2016 actually did the unfinished business.
True on Portugal's golden generation and they now won due to better organization�by Fernando Santos is my take and that's why I think the way to get the best out of Belgium is to get this kind of well organized coach at the helm but of course there's a price to pay in stifling their attacking talents.�
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I must say that it's easier to organize Portugal with only CR7 being the obvious attacking threat other than Sanches whereas Belgium has a plethora of attacking players like De�Bruyne, Lukaku, Hazard so harder to instill this kind of game.
I thought Sane at �37mil beats Xhaka's �32-35mil?
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dunno leh.... because different websites got slightly different price... the one i saw lists both sane and xhaka at 45m euros..... maybe exchange rate different haha
Yea you are right bro. Xhaka was the highest fee paid before Sane's deal went through.
But both deals are going to be dwarfed by the mega deal of Pogba. Who will be the most expansive signing is a foregone conclusion�
can let me brag arsenal not stingy for a few more days bo.............�
At the rate the fees are being discussed, I'm quite sure many more higher fees will be concluded other than the Pogba one. Still shaking my head how Higuain can be worth 75mil!!
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Well, typically, the president of Napoli is always a hard negotiator, he never let any of his players go unless the buying clubs met his demands...� The players can protest all they want but ultimately, he still get what he wants...
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dunno leh.... because different websites got slightly different price... the one i saw lists both sane and xhaka at 45m euros..... maybe exchange rate different haha
can let me brag arsenal not stingy for a few more days bo.............
Based on TransferMarkt, Xhaka at �45m while San� at �50m.
I can let you brag for as long as you want bro. It is Man City who doesn't wish to see you brag leh
Roberto Martinez, based on his records at Swansea, Wigan and Everton, will take his teams one step forward and then 2 or 3 steps backward.
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Maybe the Belgium FA is smart enuff to sack him after the 1 step forward?
Based on TransferMarkt, Xhaka at �45m while San� at �50m.
I can let you brag for as long as you want bro. It is Man City who doesn't wish to see you brag leh�
I got it from here leh
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nvm lar.. here no man city fans anyway............. so we know the other people that call wenger stingy poker.... is pot calling kettle sibei black....lol
I got it from here leh
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nvm lar.. here no man city fans anyway............. so we know the other people that call wenger stingy poker.... is pot calling kettle sibei black....lol
yeah la...wenger not stingy la. but he got quota. one season can only splash big once. ozil, sanchez, n now xhaka. so transfer dealings for arsenal is done.
yeah la...wenger not stingy la. but he got quota. one season can only splash big once. ozil, sanchez, n now xhaka. so transfer dealings for arsenal is done.
Sure got quota mah..... not moneybags leh
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Gabriel Jesus will be confirmed as a Manchester City player in the next 24 hours. (Source: Sky Sports)
Scary. I don't think I can recognise the team next season.�
Brazil Olympic Team forward line is Neymar, Gabriel Jesus and Gabriel Barbosa aka Gabigol
A sports shop in Paris is selling Juve's home and away kit with Dybala taking over Pogba's No.10 shirt.
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It's either a done deal with MU or Pogba will be taking over his previous and favourite No.6, which is vacant in MU's squad number so far.
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The saga continues from anticipation to MTF, even for MU fans.
A sports shop in Paris is selling Juve's home and away kit with Dybala taking over Pogba's No.10 shirt.
It's either a done deal with MU or Pogba will be taking over his previous and favourite No.6, which is vacant in MU's squad number so far.
The saga continues from anticipation to MTF, even for MU fans.
Edited by L23, 04 August 2016 - 02:55 PM.
Deal done with agent getting more than 25m pounds
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Yup, if Daily Telegraph is accurate, the deal will be officially announced before the CS kick off on Sunday.
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[Wow more interested parties now]
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http://www.mirror.co...ristian-8556400
Yup, if Daily Telegraph is accurate, the deal will be officially announced before the CS kick off on Sunday.
Can't wait to see how a multi million pounds team play against a modestly assembled one.
Bayern apparently was disgusted with the way their legend has been treated. Bit of an irony because back in 2005, Schweinstiger was banished to Bayern reserves too and he fought his way back.
Only Bayern can treat a German badly but Man Utd cannot?
https://www.theguard...chester-united?
?Manchester United defender Marcos Rojo has been told that he can find a new club by new boss Jose Mourinho, but the 26-year-old has reportedly turned down a lucrative move to China.
�Manchester United defender Marcos Rojo has been told that he can find a new club by new boss Jose Mourinho, but the 26-year-old has reportedly turned down a lucrative move to China.
Many mid tier players need to go
JM apparently told Schweinstiger to clear his locker and train with the reserves on his birthday.
Bayern apparently was disgusted with the way their legend has been treated. Bit of an irony because back in 2005, Schweinstiger was banished to Bayern reserves too and he fought his way back.
Only Bayern can treat a German badly but Man Utd cannot?
https://www.theguard...chester-united?
Guess in 2005 he still young punk and not established... now is bayern and german legend as well as world cup winner
Deal done with agent getting more than 25m pounds
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disgusted that agent can earn so much for doing nothing .....
He help the selling club to ballon up the player worth, ballon up the player wages and help the buying club to attract the player to the club .
This is a hell lot of works man !!
I wouldn't mind give a agent 500k cash if he can help me find a buyer to use 2m to buy my 500k hdb flat wor :)
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Everton are standing firm on their �50m valuation of John Stones and have told Man City to take it or leave it.
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Everton are standing firm on their �50m valuation of John Stones and have told Man City to take it or leave it.
Get what you mean but take it or leave it should be City's stance. Everton should be pay up or F off.
http://www.dailymail...ung-talent.html
Quite different the transfer strategies adopted by the 2 Manchester clubs this window. City is building a team that can dominate for years.
http://www.dailymail...ung-talent.html
Cos man u desperate liao. They cant b out of ucl any longer. N in mou, they hv a manager looking for instant success. Gd for selling clubs though. Expect money to cont to b splashed out at insane levels.
Dun think 1 season wthout UCL support this statement leh..."Cos man u desperate liao. They cant b out of ucl any longer"
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The thing is, even without JM, MANU has already been envied by many football fans, what more with JM inside. hahahahahahahahaha
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Abt Chiteh, nahh... not worth mentioning lah,.... i call them a boutique club...
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Anyway, love all this green vibes coming our way... always remember who knock pools off the f&$*ing perch... wakakaka
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Dun think 1 season wthout UCL support this statement leh..."Cos man u desperate liao. They cant b out of ucl any longer"
The thing is, even without JM, MANU has already been envied by many football fans, what more with JM inside. hahahahahahahahaha
Abt Chiteh, nahh... not worth mentioning lah,.... i call them a boutique club...
Anyway, love all this green vibes coming our way... always remember who knock pools off the f&$*ing perch... wakakaka
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Credit when due. You guys did hold the record for now, just like we had been holding that record for quite some time before you. Continue to live on that and very soon, your neighbours will be laughing at you for living in history.
Not a normal bantering. A serious warning to the red in Manchester. City are in serious business and they are catching up. Continue to look down on them, just like last time we never give a shit about some club from Manchester. :)
Credit when due. You guys did hold the record for now, just like we had been holding that record for quite some time before you. Continue to live on that and very soon, your neighbours will be laughing at you for living in history.
Not a normal bantering. A serious warning to the red in Manchester. City are in serious business and they are catching up. Continue to look down on them, just like last time we never give a shit about some club from Manchester. :)when Chiteh rch 19 then......... ...... aniwae dun think will happen lah...we'll be way above 30 by then.. :)
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when Chiteh rch 19 then......... ...... aniwae dun think will happen lah...we'll be way above 30 by then.. :)
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i am sure Pool thought the same when they were at 18........
There was a recent article on the importance of UCL in this transfer window as compared to as recent as even last season.
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Ibra could have his choice of clubs due to his free transfer status, so did MKhitaryan(not free though) and they chose UCL-less MU. Pogba is likely to do the same.
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Kante left Leicester, ignored approach of Arsenal m joined UCL-less Chelski. There were other "lesser names" mentioned in the european league.
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Money, obviously, is the top priority. But some would also look at their future prospect, like will the club be playing regularly in UCL(eg Leicester), chance of winning trophy,� playing opportunities etc.
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A bird in hand is better than 10 in the bush that would fly away at the slightest alert. Develop talent? God bless that you don't develop talent for other clubs. If a player wants to go, the contract is not worth the paper that he signed on. If he doesn't, a club can't even loan him out without his agreement. Player power.
There was a recent article on the importance of UCL in this transfer window as compared to as recent as even last season.
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Ibra could have his choice of clubs due to his free transfer status, so did MKhitaryan(not free though) and they chose UCL-less MU. Pogba is likely to do the same.
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Kante left Leicester, ignored approach of Arsenal m joined UCL-less Chelski. There were other "lesser names" mentioned in the european league.
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Money, obviously, is the top priority. But some would also look at their future prospect, like will the club be playing regularly in UCL(eg Leicester), chance of winning trophy,� playing opportunities etc.
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A bird in hand is better than 10 in the bush that would fly away at the slightest alert. Develop talent? God bless that you don't develop talent for other clubs. If a player wants to go, the contract is not worth the paper that he signed on. If he doesn't, a club can't even loan him out without his agreement. Player power.
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Arsenal wanted Kante?
A serious warning to the red in Manchester. City are in serious business and they are catching up. Continue to look down on them, just like last time we never give a shit about some club from Manchester. :)�
If oil price stay depressed for the next few years, then we shall see what spending power City and Chelski have.
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Sorry, can't remember the last time your team can look down on other teams, let alone MUFC. My kampong school taught only modern history.
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Arsenal wanted Kante?
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Dun think 1 season wthout UCL support this statement leh..."Cos man u desperate liao. They cant b out of ucl any longer"
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The thing is, even without JM, MANU has already been envied by many football fans, what more with JM inside. hahahahahahahahaha
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Abt Chiteh, nahh... not worth mentioning lah,.... i call them a boutique club...
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Anyway, love all this green vibes coming our way... always remember who knock pools off the f&$*ing perch... wakakaka
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LOL! seriously? u are in that much of a denial? come on la....man u is desperate to get back into ucl. im not talking abt whether they r the envy of other fans, or that players r still attracted to them. im talking abt them throwing silly money to get instant success. instant return to ucl. other clubs r also desperate to get into ucl, n i can assure u pool fans wont deny that. but, the difference is man u can afford it. good for u guys that the club hv the money. n yes, many fans of other clubs are envious.
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but pls...."what more with JM inside"?? hahahahahaha. u can keep him in ur club for as long as u want. many sensible man u fans i know also quite sceptical abt having him. but well....i guess u r the "go for instant success" type of fan.
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but...desperate is desperate. man city also desperate. but at the same time, they are also looking towards building for the longer term. fans of other clubs of also envious of them. can buy star players...can build for future. lagi bettter. n good that u once looked up to pool...cos u hv to b the top to b knocked down. n someday....whoever is top now can also b knocked down.�
Obviously MU is desperate. Veri Veri Desperate,
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3 years without league title is an eternity for us.
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Not so, I believe for those who can wait a century (sorry, a quarter of) without getting desperate, just delusional.
hehehe. u guys can make ppl laugh. jus don get why man u fans just cant get the point of wat ppl are talking abt. like i said, many clubs are desperate. be it to win the league or get into ucl. but the difference is, man u can afford it. n like i said, good for them. make other ppl sooooo envious.�
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other clubs is not can wait, but HAVE to wait...bcos they cant afford to but success. teams like pool, ars...they r not rich. so can jus look at rich clubs in envy. thumbs up to man u for the riches that they have. n hopefully the fans are not getting delusional...cos they r also no longer the top club.
LOL! seriously? u are in that much of a denial? come on la....man u is desperate to get back into ucl. im not talking abt whether they r the envy of other fans, or that players r still attracted to them. im talking abt them throwing silly money to get instant success. instant return to ucl. other clubs r also desperate to get into ucl, n i can assure u pool fans wont deny that. but, the difference is man u can afford it. good for u guys that the club hv the money. n yes, many fans of other clubs are envious.
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but pls...."what more with JM inside"?? hahahahahaha. u can keep him in ur club for as long as u want. many sensible man u fans i know also quite sceptical abt having him. but well....i guess u r the "go for instant success" type of fan.
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but...desperate is desperate. man city also desperate. but at the same time, they are also looking towards building for the longer term. fans of other clubs of also envious of them. can buy star players...can build for future. lagi bettter. n good that u once looked up to pool...cos u hv to b the top to b knocked down. n someday....whoever is top now can also b knocked down.�
Great story bro...
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Truth be told, all clubs wants to play UCL. However, that being said, the term "desperate" may be construed as "if MANU dun play UCL, we will crumble and go bankrupt"... which is exactly not going to happen. There are many things MANU fans dun agree with the management team but one thing we have to give credit to them is the business model they have developed. No UCL, no problem, still will be one of the richest club in the world.
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Lastly, the JM thingy is just for "poking" pools purposes, knowing how he "allegedly" denied you guys of the Title. nothing more. Normal bantering. relax�
t...bcos they cant afford to but success. teams like pool, ars...they r not rich.�
u sure pools and arsenal not rich???�
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What is this buy success all about. please enlighten
If oil price stay depressed for the next few years, then we shall see what spending power City and Chelski have.
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Sorry, can't remember the last time your team can look down on other teams, let alone MUFC. My kampong school taught only modern history.
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i dunno leh so i ask you lor.... Arsenal already bought Xhaka and have Coq as back up liao
If oil price stay depressed for the next few years, then we shall see what spending power City and Chelski have.
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ADH has over $600b in it's sovereign fund. I reckon even after throwing a few billions as "donation" to Jibby and spending a billion or so on a football team... they won't run out of cash whatever the price of oil.
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Chelsea... I'm less sure. But then... I don't really cares about those muppets...
600b. Really is kai buay liao
Arsenal wanted Kante?
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My bad. Somehow I remembered an article on Arsenal's interests in him when he signed for Chelski. A quick google turned out blank
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My bad. Somehow I remembered an article on Arsenal's interests in him when he signed for Chelski. A quick google turned out blank
My apologies.
Wenger sang the praises of Kante when he was commentating at the Euros. That does not mean he wanted to buy him but it also doesn't mean he didn't try as well. I Guess we will nvr know. Kante ended up cheaper than Xhaka, weekly wages I don't know. Age wise about the same 23 v 25 IIRC but Kante has played in EPL so that's a big plus.
Maybe Wenger sees Xhaka as a better fit for Arsenal n can contribute more attacking wise besides the obvious defensive strengths of both players? Anyway, u r not entIrely wrong cos I also read the Wenger comments.
600b in sovereign fund. But how much can be used to spend in the football club?
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Great story bro...
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Truth be told, all clubs wants to play UCL. However, that being said, the term "desperate" may be construed as "if MANU dun play UCL, we will crumble and go bankrupt"... which is exactly not going to happen. There are many things MANU fans dun agree with the management team but one thing we have to give credit to them is the business model they have developed. No UCL, no problem, still will be one of the richest club in the world.
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Lastly, the JM thingy is just for "poking" pools purposes, knowing how he "allegedly" denied you guys of the Title. nothing more. Normal bantering. relax�
u sure pools and arsenal not rich???�
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What is this buy success all about. please enlighten
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True... ManU have a pretty decent financial plan... helped by cost of debt being low... but debt at almost 400m GBP
I didn't even know Chelsea have this player.
Which one? God of Manchester?The God is the chosen vice captain!!
http://www.telegraph...-and-arsene-we/
Had a go at Bayern, Klopp and Wenger, and also lamented that the preseason does not have enough games for his players to prepare for next season.
Sunderland have completed the signing of Senegalese international centre back Papy Djilobodji from Chelsea for £8m
I didn't even know Chelsea have this player.
Which one? God of Manchester?
God of Manchester.
God of Manchester.
God or dog still dunno lol
God or dog still dunno lol
Arsene, the man who gives Gunner fans UCL football for the past decades, helps the club to its present sporting and financial situation including building and paying off� the Emirate stadium but increasingly unappreciated by the fans gives insight to his transfer strategy:
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"The price of a player is down to four ingredients. One is the talent, two his age, three is how much you expect him to improve your team, and four his resale value
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If he ticks all four boxes then the price is not that important.
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"He reminds me of buying a car:
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1. It must be reliable.
2. Has enuff power
3. Low depreciation
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Like that sure win one.
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Arsene, the man who gives Gunner fans UCL football for the past decades, helps the club to its present sporting and financial situation including building and paying off the Emirate stadium but increasingly unappreciated by the fans gives insight to his transfer strategy:
"The price of a player is down to four ingredients. One is the talent, two his age, three is how much you expect him to improve your team, and four his resale value
If he ticks all four boxes then the price is not that important.
"He reminds me of buying a car:
1. It must be reliable.
2. Has enuff power
3. Low depreciation
4. High resale.
Like that sure win one.
I only agree with 1 n 3 ie talent n whether he can improve the team or not. 2(age) is impt but that's for u to price it in the transfer fee eg Vardy is relatively old but if he was available at 20mil thereabouts can consider but not at 30mil+. But similar talent striker at say 5 yrs younger can consider at 30mil+.
As for 4(resale value) I won't really consider this cos u can't buy a player thinking whether u can sell him for a decent price later cos players are to be bought to improve the team NOW n not worry on his sell on price later. It's this point which irks me cos transfer market is not the stock or currency market!!
To me, they make sense.
For example, when we look at age and resale value, it does not mean player must be young and with high resale. He can be old and without much resale value but due to his talent and ability to improve the team massively, Wenger will still pay.
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Players are humans, so many factors that can affect their play
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some adjust better than others
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some need more "love' than others
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But age is one big factor in the price
I only agree with 1 n 3 ie talent n whether he can improve the team or not. 2(age) is impt but that's for u to price it in the transfer fee eg Vardy is relatively old but if he was available at 20mil thereabouts can consider but not at 30mil+. But similar talent striker at say 5 yrs younger can consider at 30mil+.
As for 4(resale value) I won't really consider this cos u can't buy a player thinking whether u can sell him for a decent price later cos players are to be bought to improve the team NOW n not worry on his sell on price later. It's this point which irks me cos transfer market is not the stock or currency market!!�
Separately, Zinedine Zidane and Florentino Perez have differences of opinion about who the club should sign this summer. According to London Evening Standard, Zidane is keen on adding Chelsea midfielder Nemanja Matic to his squad, but Los Blancos' president Perez wants Moussa Sissoko, who was left out of Newcastle's squad for the defeat against Fulham on Friday, leading to speculation that a move is imminent.
Personally I would back ZZ's decision. But this also highlight the problem regarding RM - why is it a manager's nightmare to work in
With the back up LB possibly out with a heel injury, Klopp might be forced to act to get in a new LB
Separately, Zinedine Zidane and Florentino Perez have differences of opinion about who the club should sign this summer. According to London Evening Standard, Zidane is keen on adding Chelsea midfielder Nemanja Matic to his squad, but Los Blancos' president Perez wants Moussa Sissoko, who was left out of Newcastle's squad for the defeat against Fulham on Friday, leading to speculation that a move is imminent.
Personally I would back ZZ's decision. But this also highlight the problem regarding RM - why is it a manager's nightmare to work in
Totally agreed that Hv to back Mgr's decision always. President shldnt interfere.
Anyway I believe ZZ wants a DM which Matic is not Sissoko.
Arsene, the man who gives Gunner fans UCL football for the past decades, helps the club to its present sporting and financial situation including building and paying off the Emirate stadium but increasingly unappreciated by the fans gives insight to his transfer strategy:
"The price of a player is down to four ingredients. One is the talent, two his age, three is how much you expect him to improve your team, and four his resale value
If he ticks all four boxes then the price is not that important.
He is not wrong and that is exactly why he nearly always loses out on signing players. Sometimes you have to throw logic out of the window.
"He reminds me of buying a car:
1. It must be reliable.
2. Has enuff power
3. Low depreciation
4. High resale.
Like that sure win one.
Arsene, the man who gives Gunner fans UCL football for the past decades, helps the club to its present sporting and financial situation including building and paying off the Emirate stadium but increasingly unappreciated by the fans gives insight to his transfer strategy:
"The price of a player is down to four ingredients. One is the talent, two his age, three is how much you expect him to improve your team, and four his resale value
If he ticks all four boxes then the price is not that important.
"He reminds me of buying a car:
1. It must be reliable.
2. Has enuff power
3. Low depreciation
4. High resale.
Like that sure win one.
He is not wrong and that is exactly why he nearly always loses out on signing players. Sometimes you have to throw logic out of the window.
http://www.dailymail...ague-title.html
LvG played man to man but JM is a believer of zonal and I am not talking about set piece defending :)
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He is not wrong and that is exactly why he nearly always loses out on signing players. Sometimes you have to throw logic out of the window.
Totally agreed! Esp in football transfer mkt which has no logic. Of course that doesn't mean u Shld put your club at risk with financial ruin but continue to analyse and analyse n u will soon be paralysed!Klopp endearing himself to the Pool faithful by refusing to answer questions from the Sun newspaper.
Another sly one n as each day passes, his mannerisms, comments etc reminds me of Wenger. No wonder JM already training his arrows towards the 2 of them n I'm expecting more fireworks in the coming season!! Cant wait as they are really on the extreme ends of a ruler so don't only expect Pep v JM confrontation but Klopp n Wenger as well!
http://www.football3...-sun-journalist
I have nothing but respect to our Klopp !
Who cares abt the crap S*n papers!
I have nothing but respect to our Klopp !
Who cares abt the crap S*n papers!
Not sure what's the rag is up their sleeves but certainly I am not going to care much.It�s not because I�m with Liverpool now. It�s because of a few things that will happen in the next few days or few weeks, I don�t know.
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Apparently is not just the historical issue over Hillsborough but also this:
Not sure what's the rag is up their sleeves but certainly I am not going to care much.
They were the ones who reported a sex tape involving Clyne. And there could be more coming up, maybe klopp related according to rumours.
Apparently is Lovren. They running a story saying Lovren missed Euro because his wife had an affair.
That one already non story. Clyne wasn't cheating on anyone and his privacy was violated.
Apparently is Lovren. They running a story saying Lovren missed Euro because his wife had an affair.
That's where the problem is. Even Klopp said it. another roller coaster season. Haiz
Bro.. U the new fruit tart huh? Manchester will be blue not red!!
More concern about the injuries and the 4:0 thrashing.. Gut tells me that this will be another see saw season for the Reds.. Sianz
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No worries, Pool first match with�Arsenal already got blessing in disguised............
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ESPN : Gabriel Paulista injury adds to Arsenal's woe ahead of season opener
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GOTHENBURG, Sweden -- Arsene Wenger says Gabriel Paulista is likely to miss the Premier League opener against Liverpool with an ankle sprain, leaving him "very short" on centre-backs for the start of the season.
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Gabriel was injured in the final minutes of Arsenal's 3-2 win over Manchester City in their final preseason friendly in Sweden on Sunday, and was clutching his face in pain as he was carried off on a stretcher.
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The injury adds to Arsenal's defensive worries as Per Mertesacker is out with a long-term knee injury and Laurent Koscielny will only return to training on Monday and will not be ready for the Liverpool game next Sunday.
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"We are very short," Wenger said after the game. "Let's hope we have good news from Gabriel. But we may be short for next week. Of course, if Gabriel is out, and Mertesacker is out and Koscielny not ready, it makes many players."
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I think Pool fans this season have reasons to be quietly confident about their shot at the title. Things starting to piece together now. New players may take time to gel but so do all the other teams.
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A very intriguing season infront of us. With the Pep's Citeh, Mourinho's expensively assembled team, Poch's spurs, Wenger's gunners and last year's winners foxes, anyone in this bracket can bag the title. The Premier League is the most entertaining league without a doubt.
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I'm very happy with my Mio extension this year. Money well-spent�
For years, whoever won the Charity Shield (Community)�Cup will not go on to win the League Champion ...
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I think Pool fans this season have reasons to be quietly confident about their shot at the title. Things starting to piece together now. New players may take time to gel but so do all the other teams.
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A very intriguing season infront of us. With the Pep's Citeh, Mourinho's expensively assembled team, Poch's spurs, Wenger's gunners and last year's winners foxes, anyone in this bracket can bag the title. The Premier League is the most entertaining league without a doubt.
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i think pool (dont seem to be able to scrap wins) is still in transition... i don''t rate man u (defence remains a problem) chances as well.. �neither manc (blowing hot cold depending on aguero) .. �
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think this season will be spurs vs arsenal for the title
i think pool (dont seem to be able to scrap wins) is still in transition... i don''t rate man u (defence remains a problem) chances as well.. �neither manc (blowing hot cold depending on aguero) .. �
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Well you are certainly amongst the minority as far as predictions are concerned cos the bookies favourites are City, United n Chelsea in that order. Arsenal are the 4th favourites n Spurs the 5th favourites. Then again bookies got it wrong last season so I�suppose your guess is as good as mine!
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No worries, Pool first match with�Arsenal already got blessing in disguised............
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What I mean is that whilst West Ham is having a free stadium, Arsenal's have been fully paid for so as far as spending NOW is concerned, it's a level�playing field cos both are virtually free of debt..�
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1st i would like to bring your attention to this article.... simply put, we were in transition for that 10yrs and we did a hell of a job maintaining 4th place... while lesser clubs have failed....... and then we get rival fans laughing at 4th place being a trophy or being called a 4th place team when their team can't even get out of their rut....
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http://www.telegraph...arsenal-fans-a/
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When we built the stadium the banks demanded that I signed for five years,� said Wenger. �Do you want me to tell you how many clubs I turned down during that period? The banks wanted the technical consistency to guarantee that we have a chance to pay back. I did commit and I stayed and under very difficult circumstances.
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So, for me, to come back today and, on top of that, be reproached for not having won the championship during that period, I think it is a bit overboard. I accept criticism. We had to sell our best players every year to survive.�
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Next would be the below link. Arsenal has no debt only if debt - cash. Which means that any money spent would be net debt. And out of the 138m cash, 14m is used annually to pay the debt. So if we take this transfer outlay of about 35m pounds + 14m interest payments. We left about 88m pounds. Oh and the 3m director fees... nbz
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Is it really alot? i am not so sure....
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Its seems you are advocating for clubs to go into debts... just because almost every club is in debt
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All the Premier�League clubs combine (add together)�debts are only a fraction of�1MDB debts ...�
1st i would like to bring your attention to this article.... simply put, we were in transition for that 10yrs and we did a hell of a job maintaining 4th place... while lesser clubs have failed....... and then we get rival fans laughing at 4th place being a trophy or being called a 4th place team when their team can't even get out of their rut....
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Next would be the below link. Arsenal has no debt only if debt - cash. Which means that any money spent would be net debt. And out of the 138m cash, 14m is used annually to pay the debt. So if we take this transfer outlay of about 35m pounds + 14m interest payments. We left about 88m pounds. Oh and the 3m director fees... nbz
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Is it really alot? i am not so sure....
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http://theshortfuse....t-lots-of-money
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Its seems you are advocating for clubs to go into debts... just because almost every club is in debt
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I give Arsenal and their board including Wenger full credit for pulling of the very difficult task of building a stadium and still achieving UCL football continuously. Kudos to them for�that and that's why only last season or so I started calling for spending and not earlier cos I fully understand the enormity of building a stadium but now that is history and since there is money and the squad is in need of players, go ahead and buy.
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Similarly, I had called for FSG to spend previously much to the annoyance of some Pool fans here but if you notice, I've stopped doing that cos like Arsenal, Pool is now rebuilding their stadium hence the tightening of belts is to be expected. Whether this money has been budgetted for or not is not the point but more so money it's required elsewhere so fair enough, prudence is required, hence no calls by me to spend.
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I've been consistent in my views of all EPL clubs not only Arsenal n Pool but even Newcastle/Ashley has earned my wrath. I expect owners to ensure a club has a fighting chance of�success so they are obliged to spend if they have the money on improving playing squads. Never have I advocated spending for the sake of spending nor did I ask that clubs' financial well being to�be threatened just for the sake of buying players.
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Long time ago... first day of economics school... I open the textbook and in the intro are the words;
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"There's no such thing as a free lunch"
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Not so long time ago, I opened the Sxxttimes and headline read:
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" There's no such thing as a free lunch" -� by a ex Minister "of Turf Club"
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So far, only Southampton and Hull had made an earnings of �47.35m and �5.4m respectively. The rest of the 18 clubs are all spending.
Top spender is Man City at �122m and they will be overtaken by their neighbour very soon. Utd currently at �80m but the amount is expected to exceed �200m once Pogba's deal is made official.
Next in line are the London clubs, Arsenal at �52m and Chelsea at �45.8m. Followed by Liverpool at �36.8m.
Spurs is next with �25.9m and newly promotee Middlesborough showed desire to stay in the top flight with an outlay of �22.7m. Stoke followed with �20.79m. Bournemouth with �15.7m and Crystal Palace with �15.3m round up the top 10 clubs in terms of nett spending for this window so far.
Since the league is starting in a week's time, might be a good time to do a simple summary on the expenditures by various BPL clubs.
So far, only Southampton and Hull had made an earnings of �47.35m and �5.4m respectively. The rest of the 18 clubs are all spending.
Top spender is Man City at �122m and they will be overtaken by their neighbour very soon. Utd currently at �80m but the amount is expected to exceed �200m once Pogba's deal is made official.
Next in line are the London clubs, Arsenal at �52m and Chelsea at �45.8m. Followed by Liverpool at �36.8m.
Spurs is next with �25.9m and newly promotee Middlesborough showed desire to stay in the top flight with an outlay of �22.7m. Stoke followed with �20.79m. Bournemouth with �15.7m and Crystal Palace with �15.3m round up the top 10 clubs in terms of nett spending for this window so far.�
Seem like the Saint is always making money year after year...
Seem like the Saint is always making money year after year...
Liverpool contributed a lot to that LOL
I give Arsenal and their board including Wenger full credit for pulling of the very difficult task of building a stadium and still achieving UCL football continuously. Kudos to them for�that and that's why only last season or so I started calling for spending and not earlier cos I fully understand the enormity of building a stadium but now that is history and since there is money and the squad is in need of players, go ahead and buy.
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Similarly, I had called for FSG to spend previously much to the annoyance of some Pool fans here but if you notice, I've stopped doing that cos like Arsenal, Pool is now rebuilding their stadium hence the tightening of belts is to be expected. Whether this money has been budgetted for or not is not the point but more so money it's required elsewhere so fair enough, prudence is required, hence no calls by me to spend.
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I've been consistent in my views of all EPL clubs not only Arsenal n Pool but even Newcastle/Ashley has earned my wrath. I expect owners to ensure a club has a fighting chance of�success so they are obliged to spend if they have the money on improving playing squads. Never have I advocated spending for the sake of spending nor did I ask that clubs' financial well being to�be threatened just for the sake of buying players.
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You yourself have admitted that you wish that Arsenal could buy better players but you are realistic that in your opinion, this can't be achieved.�I'm calling for�exactly the same thing but I guess we have a differing opinion as I feel it can be achieved now but agreed�not previously.��
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based on the figures, i pluck a figure from the sky and think they can maybe afford 1 more 20-30m pound player.... but who can we buy? Strikers are going for 40m and above...... defenders maybe about 20-30m.... the question then is should we get a striker or defender....
Arsenal was operating under entirely different circumstances when they moved from Highbury. And the new stadium is still not fully paid for mind you...�
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It's a lot easier for clubs nowadays to spend - whether it be on marquee players or a new stadium - simply because there's just so much easy money floating around as cheap debt and as windfall from TV sponsorship deal.
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Should the club break the bank on a player with the future TV earning... sure they can... but it better be a world class player... a Messi or CR7 or Suarez or Bale type of player. Not 50m for a defender who's fluffed a few times for team and country... or 75m for 29 yr old CF who looks like he's had one too many pies.
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And we also have to watch the wage bill also
https://insidemanche...anchester-city/
Arsenal will offer �35m plus Olivier Giroud for Inter striker Mauro Icardi (Source: Gazzetta dello Sport)
Dunno how true
The same news outlet also reported that Chievo president Luca Campedelli is reportedly in advanced talks with super agent Mino Raiola to sign Liverpool outcast Mario Balotelli.Italy will be the likely final destination for Mario Balotelli.
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Previously linked to Sampdoria; now Cheivo.
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Hope this rumoured deal can be concluded asap. �
Edited by cashcow, 08 August 2016 - 09:50 PM.
Italy will be the likely final destination for Mario Balotelli.
Previously linked to Sampdoria; now Cheivo.
Hope this rumoured deal can be concluded asap.
I think there was another promoted side if I am not wrong. Ya, hoping to conclude this ASAP. Good for all parties. Pool likely to take a 50% lost on the sale
Man City have apparently put Samir Nasri up for sale. Asking price £17m. AC Milan, Inter & Roma are reported interested.
Man City have apparently put Samir Nasri up for sale. Asking price �17m. AC Milan, Inter & Roma are reported interested.
If arsenal willing to accept him back.. I think he can still play
https://www.theguard...asie-reject-bid
Everton trying for Bolasie.
If arsenal willing to accept him back.. I think he can still play
I also think he can contribute but like Mahrez, I think he's not needed n will be a good to have rather than a must have. Shld focus on the must haves like CB n CF so save the precious resources.
pogba finally confirmed... �
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definitely an upgrade on fellaini...
http://www.turkish-f...lable-for-loan/
pogba finally confirmed...
definitely an upgrade on fellaini...
When you spend �89m on a player, he should be rightfully an upgrade over anyone in the squad playing in his position. ;)
Edited by Osprey23, 09 August 2016 - 10:00 AM.
Congrats.
When you spend �89m on a player, he should be rightfully an upgrade over anyone in the squad playing in his position. ;)�
ha.. i have decided to ignore the spending.. not going make me rich or poor anyways... �
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telling myself to juz seeing him as an upgrade across the midfield.
Judging from the Community Shield display, with Mkhitsryan benched, the display in midfield was so disappointing with 2 slow and unimaginative coaches in Fellani and Carrick found wanting.
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Any upgrade/addition would be welcomed, not to mention one that is most sought after.
pogba finally confirmed...
definitely an upgrade on fellaini...
Hopefully he can light up BPL and attract more quality players to come ply their trade in BPL rather than Germans, Spanish, Italian or even China leagues ...
I also think he can contribute but like Mahrez, I think he's not needed n will be a good to have rather than a must have. Shld focus on the must haves like CB n CF so save the precious resources.
I think part of the problem lies in our wings, one side has sanchez which is great in tracking back... currently ramsey is used on right, because walcott is not good in tracking back.
If we solve the right side, our defence problem may be alleviated
This is a great 51st Singapore birthday for sure
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Eat your word black horse.
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Eat your word black horse.
What a joke
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misquoted lah ..... or out of context ...........�
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what he meant was he would never go back as long as red nose still around ..............�
Judging from the Community Shield display, with Mkhitsryan benched, the display in midfield was so disappointing with 2 slow and unimaginative coaches in Fellani and Carrick found wanting.
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Any upgrade/addition would be welcomed, not to mention one that is most sought after.
The backward passer and elbow king should now be a surplus (and a liability with his backpass to Vardy at the C-Shield) with�Pogback. Definitely an upgrade (the biggest)�and although still hard to swallow, his performance for�the first few matches will help Manu fans come to terms�(not necessarily agree) with�this transfer fee.�
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As to why JM gave a 1 year extn to Carrick, whom I feel is�like�Jonny Evans (now at WBA)�could be coz of being second-most senior to Rooney in the squad.
Man Utd are leading the pack with �185m. Will they be able to hold the lead? City do have unfinished business.
West Ham have also surged up the table to 6th with nett spending of �34.5m.
Swansea on the other hand, joined Saints and Hull as earners with �20.6m profit.
Interesting fact: no team who spent more than �100m in a summer window has won the league.
Arsenal got chance
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With the recently concluded deals, the spending table has changed slightly.
Man Utd are leading the pack with �185m. Will they be able to hold the lead? City do have unfinished business.
West Ham have also surged up the table to 6th with nett spending of �34.5m.
Swansea on the other hand, joined Saints and Hull as earners with �20.6m profit.
Interesting fact: no team who spent more than �100m in a summer window has won the league.
Arsenal got chance�
and man u have not started selling yet!!�
I can't stop grinning after I saw the Pogba confirmation
This is a great 51st Singapore birthday for sureBuying a �100m player is only one aspect of the ball game.
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How Pogba dovetail into the team is another. Man U's forwards with relatively "old" birds Zlatan and Rooney could be testy as the season progress. Martial, Lingaard and Rashford looks more nimble.
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The 'park the bus" syndrome will not easily go away with JM's ingrained mentality. He wants to win at all cost.
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JM in my opinion is still human. Nothing is guaranteed.
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His Epl success or failure is in God's hand. ��
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http://www.skysports...able-for-201617
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Man City are so certain that they will get John Stones such that they have already registered him for the UCL squad.
Man City are so certain that they will get John Stones such that they have already registered him for the UCL squad.
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Man City had completed the �47.5m signing of John Stones from Everton.
Buying a £100m player is only one aspect of the ball game.
How Pogba dovetail into the team is another. Man U's forwards with relatively "old" birds Zlatan and Rooney could be testy as the season progress. Martial, Lingaard and Rashford looks more nimble.
The 'park the bus" syndrome will not easily go away with JM's ingrained mentality. He wants to win at all cost.
JM in my opinion is still human. Nothing is guaranteed.
His Epl success or failure is in God's hand.ha! Arsene and Klopp get sick burn by JM
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Abit higher price than I thought but goes to show market is inflated that even Bony who has had little game time commands a 30mil price tag. City would make money if sold at that price.
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Think City will let go if 25mil or even slightly lesser esp if not many teams are after him.
Abit higher price than I thought but goes to show market is inflated that even Bony who has had little game time commands a 30mil price tag. City would make money if sold at that price.
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Think City will let go if 25mil or even slightly lesser esp if not many teams are after him.
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Yalor the inflation is scary, but they got the money to pay lah�
Citeh has bought a few good players few years back from 20-30m range, now most of them should worth more.�
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I shudder when I imagine how much a 23-year-old Messi could potentially cost now�
Side-track from the transfer news:
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Advent to the Super League?
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The Champions League is reportedly set to be reformed from the 2018/19 season onwards, with changes to qualification rules for the top four leagues in Europe.
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Under a proposed new qualification format, the Premier League, La Liga, Serie A and the Bundesliga could all be guaranteed four clubs qualifying automatically every season.
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However, one new feature of the rule is that while the top three teams in each domestic league would earn a place in the group stage, the fourth would be decided on something described as �historical merit�, according to Gazzetta dello Sport.
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It�s not yet clear what the specifics of this will mean, but the aim is to keep in giants of the game such as Manchester United, Liverpool and AC Milan, all of whom have been in and out of the competition in recent years due to poor showings in the league.
��MU, I believe, has no need to get into UCL through the back door.��
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Side-track from the transfer news:
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Advent to the Super League?
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The Champions League is reportedly set to be reformed from the 2018/19 season onwards, with changes to qualification rules for the top four leagues in Europe.
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Under a proposed new qualification format, the Premier League, La Liga, Serie A and the Bundesliga could all be guaranteed four clubs qualifying automatically every season.
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However, one new feature of the rule is that while the top three teams in each domestic league would earn a place in the group stage, the fourth would be decided on something described as �historical merit�, according to Gazzetta dello Sport.
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It�s not yet clear what the specifics of this will mean, but the aim is to keep in giants of the game such as Manchester United, Liverpool and AC Milan, all of whom have been in and out of the competition in recent years due to poor showings in the league.
��MU, I believe, has no need to get into UCL through the back door.�
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I've posted before that UCL or any competition qualification for that matter should never be a closed door one ie old boys club. Qualification should always be based on merit and the current system is I thought adequate but as usual those greedy clubs who have already made it want permanent membership and don't want gate crashers.
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Having permanent membership, will deny up and coming clubs a chance�to join the elite which denies smaller�clubs and their fans to fulfil a dream to be amongst the elite and explains why there is so much resentment when a rich owner takes over a club and made worse when they splash the cash on strengthening the playing squad.
I don't think Klopp will let this opportunity slips
Very open statement. So meaning if he wins the league title, he might stay on or he may leave
Meanwhile, Arsenal fails to agree on new contracts with 2 of its biggest stars : Ozul & Sanchez
Ranieri will have his wage increases to �3m per year
Sky Sports' pundits on the Premier League:
Who would be your early tip to win the Premier League?�
NEVILLE: Man Utd
CARRAGHER: Man City
HENRY: Man City
REDKNAPP: Man City
SOUNESS: Man Utd
Man Utd and Man City tipped to win league, and it is 3 vs 2 that City will be the winner.
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Who will make up the rest of the top four?�NEVILLE:�1. Man Utd 2. Arsenal 3. Man City 4. Liverpool
CARRAGHER:�1. Man City 2. Chelsea 3. Man Utd 4. Liverpool
HENRY: 1. Man City 2. Man Utd. 3. Chelsea 4. Arsenal
REDKNAPP:� 1. Man City 2. Man Utd 3. Tottenham 4. Liverpool
SOUNESS: 1. Man Utd 2. Man City. 3. Tottenham 4. Arsenal
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Who's your tip for top scorer?�NEVILLE: Sergio Aguero
CARRAGHER: Harry Kane
HENRY: Sergio Aguero
REDKNAPP: Harry Kane
SOUNESS: Sergio Aguero
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Which player are you most excited to watch in the Premier League next season?�NEVILLE: Zlatan Ibrahimovic
CARRAGHER: Kevin De Bruyne
HENRY: Sadio Mane
REDKNAPP: Henrikh Mkhitaryan
SOUNESS: Zlatan Ibrahimovic
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Sky Sports' pundits on the Premier League:
Who would be your early tip to win the Premier League?�
NEVILLE: Man Utd
CARRAGHER: Man City
HENRY: Man City
REDKNAPP: Man City
SOUNESS: Man Utd
Man Utd and Man City tipped to win league, and it is 3 vs 2 that City will be the winner.
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Who will make up the rest of the top four?�NEVILLE:�1. Man Utd 2. Arsenal 3. Man City 4. Liverpool
CARRAGHER:�1. Man City 2. Chelsea 3. Man Utd 4. Liverpool
HENRY: 1. Man City 2. Man Utd. 3. Chelsea 4. Arsenal
REDKNAPP:� 1. Man City 2. Man Utd 3. Tottenham 4. Liverpool
SOUNESS: 1. Man Utd 2. Man City. 3. Tottenham 4. Arsenal
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Who's your tip for top scorer?�NEVILLE: Sergio Aguero
CARRAGHER: Harry Kane
HENRY: Sergio Aguero
REDKNAPP: Harry Kane
SOUNESS: Sergio Aguero
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Which player are you most excited to watch in the Premier League next season?�NEVILLE: Zlatan Ibrahimovic
CARRAGHER: Kevin De Bruyne
HENRY: Sadio Mane
REDKNAPP: Henrikh Mkhitaryan
SOUNESS: Zlatan Ibrahimovic
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Which manager are you most excited to watch in the Premier League next season to get sacked?�L23: JM follow by AW�
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Ars�ne Wenger on Five Live: "My contract runs until the end of the season. What I do after will depend on how the season goes"
Very open statement. So meaning if he wins the league title, he might stay on or he may leave�
i am quite sure if he wins the title, he will leave...
i am surprised no one considered spurs to be in top 4
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my take is arsenal, man city, chelsea and spurs in no particular order
Meanwhile, Arsenal fails to agree on new contracts with 2 of its biggest stars : Ozul & Sanchez
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between ozil and sanchez, i value ozil more but if both sign good lar
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Which manager are you most excited to watch in the Premier League next season to get sacked?�L23: JM follow by AW�
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I'm not looking forward to anybody getting sacked but I'm keen to see Pep and Conte cos they are new to the EPL.
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Pep is supposedly a really good Mgr and has quite a CV. Conte is supposedly a tactical genius and his passion is well known. Would have loved to see Simeone in EPL as well and my personal favourite Ancelotti though boring but a good Mgr and conducts himself well
Official: We are delighted to confirm that Claudio Ranieri has signed a new contract to June, 2020!
Ranieri will have his wage increases to �3m per year�
And how about this news??
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http://www.mycarforu...-a-bmw-i8-each/
Leicester City players were awarded by their chairman with a brand new BMW i8 each after their historic English Premier League win a few months ago.�
According to Carscoops, the�club's chairman Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha�is said to have forked out almost S$2.70 million to buy 19 BMW i8s. Not that the chairman's wallet would hurt, as he is worth more than S$4 billion. Four players from the�he championship squad didn't receive an i8 as one of them has moved to Chelsea while the three others were�only briefly used as substitutes.
The cars were all specced identically with only the different alloy wheels distinguishing one from another.
i am surprised no one considered spurs to be in top 4
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my take is arsenal, man city, chelsea and spurs in no particular order
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Quite naturally, at the start of the season; most pundits prediction�righty or wrongly is based on perceived strength of playing squad or at least the improvement on paper. In this aspect, the Manchester clubs obviously stand out and in fact Danny Murphy feels it will be a 3 horse race with Chelsea for the title. Arsenal, Pool and Spurs fighting for the 4th spot due to less strengthening in his opinion.�Leicester has proven�this wrong last season though.�
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http://www.express.c...fer-News-Gossip
Very interesting interview from Sean Dyche, Burnley manager.
He is of the opinion that British managers are not given due credit for what they have done for the game.
To a certain extend, I agree with him. The younger Britiish managers I feel are doing well and should be given a chance a bigger clubs.
That said, Woy is still a dinosaur.
Submitting a �6M for McNair and Love.
Who is Love huh?
Oh ya, bye bye Benteke. Hope he will fly high with the Eagles.
Edited by Osprey23, 10 August 2016 - 07:15 PM.
Reports suggesting Dahoud has a �10m release clause..which only becomes active in at the end of next season.
I don't think Klopp will let this opportunity slips
http://sportwitness....pool-right-now/
If Klopp is really to throw �30m at him, good chance BMG might sell.
Separately, Galatasaray sporting director: �We are no longer pursuing Lucas Leiva, we will continue efforts to sign an alternative instead.�
Looks like Lucas will be staying on for another season. No problem with that for me. A good servant and model professional.
Edited by Osprey23, 10 August 2016 - 07:38 PM.
What a joke
Prob disappointed spurs no splash out. Missed out on the mitshibishi batsuani to chelsee. N prob why no go try for the mitrihatrick. The armenian playmaker. N also the marseille winger who passed his medical and yet to join spurs as fees stalled.
Prob the red one. The blue one hor have a manager which has good cv but i tink may be like a fish out of water.Which one? Blue or Red?
Maybe my own personal dislike of this team bah.
Hmm why the chief scout want to take responsibility or be disappointed over lack of transfer activities? His job is to find and recommend targets. Whether the manager or club decide to follow up is not of his concern lehSpurs chief scout paul mitchel resigns.
Prob disappointed spurs no splash out. Missed out on the mitshibishi batsuani to chelsee. N prob why no go try for the mitrihatrick. The armenian playmaker. N also the marseille winger who passed his medical and yet to join spurs as fees stalled.
Edited by Osprey23, 10 August 2016 - 08:57 PM.
Spurs chief scout paul mitchel resigns.
Prob disappointed spurs no splash out. Missed out on the mitshibishi batsuani to chelsee. N prob why no go try for the mitrihatrick. The armenian playmaker. N also the marseille winger who passed his medical and yet to join spurs as fees stalled.
Prob the red one. The blue one hor have a manager which has good cv but i tink may be like a fish out of water.
Maybe my own personal dislike of this team bah.
Dahoud's agent:"It has been agreed that he will stay for another season"
Spurs chief scout paul mitchel resigns.
Prob disappointed spurs no splash out. Missed out on the mitshibishi batsuani to chelsee. N prob why no go try for the mitrihatrick. The armenian playmaker. N also the marseille winger who passed his medical and yet to join spurs as fees stalled.
Whilst I don't have proof on this, can't help speculating that perhaps it's Daniel Levy's well known tight fisted approach which clashes with what Mitchel recommended and hence no deals able to be concluded and so he got frustrated n decide to leave? Possible?
Hearsay Mitchel joining the Fox
He might well be poached. Foxes lost Steve Welsh to Everton.
Guardian has a report on Mitchel leaving. Apparently Levy having another advisor interfering with his job.
https://www.theguard...quits-nightmare
http://sportwitness....er-last-minute/
If he carries on to meddle with the signings, Poch will be gone next.
Definitely a short term upgrade over Stones.
Football Economy:
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RM recouped Beckam's transfer fees through merchandise in his maiden season and that of Ronaldo in 2 to 3 seasons.
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What about Pogba. He sold just under 700,000 jerseys in Juves. Given the huge PR generated through the protracted transfer (his Twitter & Instagram following increased by 25% since he was linked with MU), a good 7 figure sales should be easily achieved.
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Experts at Deloitte say as long as he lives up his billing then:
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An increase in kit sales, an increase in the image rights of the player, and potentially an added value on a future transfer could see United ending up turning a profit from football's most expensive player.
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Unless he fails miserably,� he who laughs last laughs best. Then it will be not just we can (pay 100 mil) also we know........
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wth... no starting�place even for David Silva?
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Silva,�Yaya, Nasri, Mangala, Navas, Sane, Kolarov on the bench... possibly the strongest bench in EPL
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wth... no starting�place even for David Silva?
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Silva,�Yaya, Nasri, Mangala, Navas, Sane, Kolarov on the bench... possibly the strongest bench in EPL
sterling over silva??? they must b crazy.
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And how about this news??
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http://www.mycarforu...-a-bmw-i8-each/
According to Carscoops, the�club's chairman Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha�is said to have forked out almost S$2.70 million to buy 19 BMW i8s. Not that the chairman's wallet would hurt, as he is worth more than S$4 billion. Four players from the�he championship squad didn't receive an i8 as one of them has moved to Chelsea while the three others were�only briefly used as substitutes.
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Liverpool also get leh...
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Football Economy:
RM recouped Beckam's transfer fees through merchandise in his maiden season and that of Ronaldo in 2 to 3 seasons.
What about Pogba. He sold just under 700,000 jerseys in Juves. Given the huge PR generated through the protracted transfer (his Twitter & Instagram following increased by 25% since he was linked with MU), a good 7 figure sales should be easily achieved.
Experts at Deloitte say as long as he lives up his billing then:
An increase in kit sales, an increase in the image rights of the player, and potentially an added value on a future transfer could see United ending up turning a profit from football's most expensive player.
Unless he fails miserably, he who laughs last laughs best. Then it will be not just we can (pay 100 mil) also we know........
Stand corrected but I have read somewhere before that in that mega shirt deals with Adidas, Man Utd are not getting any �� from the shirt sales.
Usually the profits are split but because of the amount of the up front sponsorship, Adidas taking all.
sterling over silva??? they must b crazy.
They are overloaded with wingers. Sterling will have to fight very hard for his spot. I believe San� is better than him already.
This Guardian reports�Mahrez not leaving�Leicester this window.�
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My�feel is that despite Leicester's obvious refusal to not let him leave, I believe there's also not really a strong interest in him from other clubs despite his obvious talent and being the POTY as well. Most clubs this window looking for CB and CF, not so much wide players, my 2 cents.
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https://www.theguard...leave-leicester
They are overloaded with wingers. Sterling will have to fight very hard for his spot. I believe San� is better than him already.
50m leh...�
Can't be wrong right?
Torres was 50m before.�
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Arsenal�s negotiations to sign Valencia defender Shkodran Mustafi are ongoing. [Sky Sports]
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reports says he just followed xhaka and like his photo.............�
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will be happy if he comes...
50m leh...
Can't be wrong right?
Torres was 50m before.
His price inflated due to his nationality.
if he is non-English, his fee probably will be �25m max
reports says he just followed xhaka and like his photo.............
will be happy if he comes...
Hope you guys can get him too... But only next week
More predictions, this time from Mirror reporters.
They tallied the votes up and concluded......
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Premier League top four (in order):
Manchester United (1st), Manchester City (2nd), Chelsea (3rd), Arsenal (4th).
Relegated: Swansea, Burnley, Hull.
FA Cup: Liverpool.
League Cup: Manchester United
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http://www.mirror.co...-bottom-8593233
Guardian's team of 4 writer predicted"
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1. MU
2. MC
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4. Chelski
5. Arsenal
6. LFC
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Their 3rd placing should go to yet to be previewed Spur.
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Todate the Bookies' picks are
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1. MC
2. MU
3. Chelski
4. Arse
5. Spur & Pool.
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They got it terribly wrong last season. Hope they mix up the top 2 this time.
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But everyone agrees on No. 20 - Hull.
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Spurs chief scout paul mitchel resigns.
Prob disappointed spurs no splash out. Missed out on the mitshibishi batsuani to chelsee. N prob why no go try for the mitrihatrick. The armenian playmaker. N also the marseille winger who passed his medical and yet to join spurs as fees stalled.
Prob the red one. The blue one hor have a manager which has good cv but i tink may be like a fish out of water.
Maybe my own personal dislike of this team bah.�
As I suspected, it's Spurs approach to transfers that has gotten Mitchell frustrated so looks like I'm not the only one who doesn't like tight fisted owners, Mgrs though this one looks like it's Levy who is the chairman.
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Frankly with a top end wage of only 80k per week, I fear Spurs may lose their best players in the near future. Rightly or wrongly, football wages and fees have gone up tremendously and if you want to compete at the top, you have to fork out unfortunately.
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But who knows, another Leicester may prove this theory wrong which I don't mind but doubt it.
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http://www.standard....r-a3316506.html
Wah, this scout is pretty high profile
Hope you guys can get him too... But only next week
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even if he comes in this week.. don't think he will go straight into the team...
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looking at chambers and holding partnership
Guardian's team of 4 writer predicted"
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They got it terribly wrong last season. Hope they mix up the top 2 this time.
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But everyone agrees on No. 20 - Hull.
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Then how much is the odds of Hull winning the title?�
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Might be good gamble to buy a bit on it... Last year Leicester made how many people very rich??
reports says he just followed xhaka and like his photo.............
will be happy if he comes...
Talks of Mahrez hot up yesterday.
Mainly reports from France. Mahrez is keen to move but as reported widely in the English press, Leicester are holding firm on their position - Not for sale.
Then how much is the odds of Hull winning the title?
Might be good gamble to buy a bit on it... Last year Leicester made how many people very rich??
If you have some spare money, maybe can try lol.
Hull City attracting interest from the Chinese. However, even if they really buy over, little time left in the market for them to strengthen imo
This Guardian reports�Mahrez not leaving�Leicester this window.�
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My�feel is that despite Leicester's obvious refusal to not let him leave, I believe there's also not really a strong interest in him from other clubs despite his obvious talent and being the POTY as well. Most clubs this window looking for CB and CF, not so much wide players, my 2 cents.
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Mahrez and Vardy thrive on counter attacking play
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and Arsenal play possession football.
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It doesn't make sense for either of them to join Arsenal.
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Talks of Mahrez hot up yesterday.
Mainly reports from France. Mahrez is keen to move but as reported widely in the English press, Leicester are holding firm on their position - Not for sale.�
i presume we get mayhrez to let walcott play as striker.......if not, i don't see why we getting him unless Wenger intend to turn him into a striker
i presume we get mayhrez to let walcott play as striker.......if not, i don't see why we getting him unless Wenger intend to turn him into a striker
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Maybe just like Henry.
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Liverpool are set to secure the services of Juanma from Barcelona, according to reports from�the Liverpool Echo
�Liverpool have splashed a lot of cash to secure the services of the likes of Sadio Mane, Georginio Wijnaldum, Loris Karius and Ragner Klavan among others and the Reds will now most certainly be looking to mount a challenge for a place in the Championship during the upcoming campaign.
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While the aforementioned players are all established names, manager Jurgen Klopp is a manager who is always on the lookout to sign promising youngsters as well and it can now be revealed that the German boss is set to make a swoop for 19-year-old Juanma.
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Juanma is a graduate of the famed La Masia academy of Barcelona and he had joined Liverpool on trial last month for around 10 days.
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The left back most certainly seems to have impressed the Liverpool staff during the trial and now revelations can be made that the Reds are set to sign him on a permanent deal, according to reports from the Liverpool Echo.
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Liverpool have signed the likes of Pedro Chirivella and Madger Gomes from Barcelona previously and the left-back will surely be helped by the presence of his Spanish compatriots at Anfield.
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Under-23 manager Michael Beale had spoken about Juanma in July and had praised the teenager�s ability. He had said,��Juanma is a boy who�s come in to spend the week with us with a view to maybe seeing more of him. He�s only had a couple of days training with us, speaks very little English but you can see a very good player.
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�He was at Barcelona so we�ll have a look and see how we go with him. He played with Madger Gomes and Pedro Chirivella with Spain so we�re quite familiar with him.
��He�s very versatile and can play in different positions because technically he�s very good. I quite like him, he reminds he a little bit of someone like a Pablo Zabaleta-type player, a nice player.�
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Mahrez and Vardy thrive on counter attacking play
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and Arsenal play possession football.
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It doesn't make sense for either of them to join Arsenal.
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U have a point but sometimes it's good to have a different variation and it's a fact�Wenger was keen on Vardy which would have been the harder of the 2 to assimilate whereas Mahrez I believe is much easier to bed in but Arsenal have an abundance of wide players like Sanchez, Ox, Walcott and even Ramsey can play there so don't really see him there esp as they have other pressing needs.
Juanma boleh
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Unfortunately he goes to the U 23 team and not "ready" for the first team.
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Edited by cashcow, 11 August 2016 - 03:59 PM.
Finally...
Liverpool signed a LB
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Is he of first team caliber? Seems like more of a potential future LB?
Then how much is the odds of Hull winning the title?�
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Might be good gamble to buy a bit on it... Last year Leicester made how many people very rich??
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Bookies are much more kiasu this time, all the relegation favourites are at 1,500:1.
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No more 5 or 6,000:1
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so all the smoke screen gone, comes the real target.
Another window of hard work by the agent coming to nought.
Is he of first team caliber? Seems like more of a potential future LB?
Definitely not there yet. Meant more to be a joke as many are looking forward to a new LB but bro James posted earlier so killed the suspense ;)
Let's wait for a while more to let Klopp free up more wages. I still believe a LB is on the card.
Starsport�understand�Liverpool�have snapped up the ex-Tottenham�and�Newcastle�centre-back, who was released byMiddlesborough�in May.
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He will focus on assessing players in Spain and Portugal - utilising knowledge gained during his brief spell at Real Madrid.
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The La Liga giants signed Woodgate from Newcastle for �13.4m in August 2004, much to the dismay of Toon supporters.
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His first task may be to continue the search for a new left-back to rival Alberto Moreno, who Kop legend John Aldridge recently described as a 'big worry.'
U have a point but sometimes it's good to have a different variation and it's a fact�Wenger was keen on Vardy which would have been the harder of the 2 to assimilate whereas Mahrez I believe is much easier to bed in but Arsenal have an abundance of wide players like Sanchez, Ox, Walcott and even Ramsey can play there so don't really see him there esp as they have other pressing needs.
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Ah Seng should try buying Mata instead of Mahrez... especially now Mata wants out of Man Utd
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Starsport�understand�Liverpool�have snapped up the ex-Tottenham�and�Newcastle�centre-back, who was released byMiddlesborough�in May.
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He will focus on assessing players in Spain and Portugal - utilising knowledge gained during his brief spell at Real Madrid.
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The La Liga giants signed Woodgate from Newcastle for �13.4m in August 2004, much to the dismay of Toon supporters.
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His first task may be to continue the search for a new left-back to rival Alberto Moreno, who Kop legend John Aldridge recently described as a 'big worry.'
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woooh... did they register him as scout/player
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can be an emergency center back in time of injury crisis
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still only 36 yo
Definitely not there yet. Meant more to be a joke as many are looking forward to a new LB but bro James posted earlier so killed the suspense ;)
Let's wait for a while more to let Klopp free up more wages. I still believe a LB is on the card.�
Haha Ok thks!! That's what I thought as well, surely an experienced LB can be found although no harm getting a potential one for future as well. Actually I thought that Pool can try for Ben Davies of Spurs. Played quite ok in the Euros and quite good going forward IMO.
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Jamie Carragher's take on the Pool squad n no prizes for guessing he pointed out LB as well which we all know.
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http://www.skysports...-choice-striker
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I do agree with his assessment that not having a first choice striker can be a good thing and keeps the forwards on their toes
Ah Seng should try buying Mata instead of Mahrez... especially now Mata wants out of Man Utd
�IMO, no need Mata as well cos they have Ozil as play maker and so too Carzola to pull the strings.
As I suspected, it's Spurs approach to transfers that has gotten Mitchell frustrated so looks like I'm not the only one who doesn't like tight fisted owners, Mgrs though this one looks like it's Levy who is the chairman.
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Frankly with a top end wage of only 80k per week, I fear Spurs may lose their best players in the near future. Rightly or wrongly, football wages and fees have gone up tremendously and if you want to compete at the top, you have to fork out unfortunately.
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But who knows, another Leicester may prove this theory wrong which I don't mind but doubt it.
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To be frank, although the players are already ridiclously paid, this kind of wages ceiling will get you nowhere near enough to compete for the top players...
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If Spurs is intent on challenging for the trophy next season, they need to do a reassessment of their wages ceiling....
Official. Sunderland are cleaning Man Utd off their deadwoods.
Mata next?
To be frank, although the players are already ridiclously paid, this kind of wages ceiling will get you nowhere near enough to compete for the top players...
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If Spurs is intent on challenging for the trophy next season, they need to do a reassessment of their wages ceiling....
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That's exactly my point. Don't get me wrong, I'm not for paying big wages but that's the way it is now and with TV money in abundance, you have no choice but to follow or at least be close to the top teams to challenge them.
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Poch and Spurs worked hard to finish 3rd (almost 2nd) last season so it will be a waste to see this going down the drain if they are not careful. Strong English core with a good coach playing the modern pressing game with players who seem to adjust to his methods�are their plus points.
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Although it's only a newspaper report, can't help feel there's some truth to this wages claim�of Spurs.�
Adnan Januzaj is close to joining Sunderland on a season-long loan. [Telegraph]
Official. Sunderland are cleaning Man Utd off their deadwoods.
Mata next?�
Sunderland have been doing that in recent year.
Remember Brown and o'Shea?
If you have some spare money, maybe can try lol.
Hull City attracting interest from the Chinese. However, even if they really buy over, little time left in the market for them to strengthen imo�
Last year Leicester was 5000 to 1. If Hull got same odds, just put 5 pounds try for 25,000 pounds... Leicester no need buy too many also won, so can pray everyday for lightning to strike twice
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Don't stress over the 5 pounds, but potential upside wah...
Sunderland have been doing that in recent year.
Remember Brown and o'Shea?
True that. With the appointment of the Chosen One, the relationship is now on a higher level
Bookies are much more kiasu this time, all the relegation favourites are at 1,500:1.
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Valencia will move for Mangala as replacement
Arsenal are moving towards a breakthrough in negotiations to sign Shkodran Mustafi from Valencia. (The Times)
Valencia will move for Mangala as replacement
The don't need a defender , they NEED a world class striker
Every team needs a world class striker, except prolly Barca, RM and MunichSeriously it got so bad today as theres aimt much world class strikers.
old classis number 9 like�Van Nistelrooy very hard to come by liao.
now system all change ,
manager who like procession play alway play a false no 9 who can play as attacking midfielder also.
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or team that rely on counter need their striker to def from m.field like.
old classis number 9 like Van Nistelrooy very hard to come by liao.
now system all change ,
manager who like procession play alway play a false no 9 who can play as attacking midfielder also.
or team that rely on counter need their striker to def from m.field like.
Romario. Batistuta. Lineker. Shearer. Klinsmann. Bebeto. Rush.
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Thought the fatty is the Barcelona Ronaldo. Won't call the real one fat. If he is, then I obese Liao.
i would think of w.r.
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West Brom join race to sign Christian Benteke from Liverpool
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My favourite also the fat real Madrid Ronaldo. Not many fatty can walk into RM starting 11. You need to be really special.
Even the Brazilian national team
Ronaldo played for RM before cr7 didThought the fatty is the Barcelona Ronaldo. Won't call the real one fat. If he is, then I obese Liao.
He walks into any team first 11. Not just RM.
Even the Brazilian national team
Ronaldo played for RM before cr7 did�
said it before and will say it again...
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There is only ONE Ronaldo�
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think abit too late... heard he's gone to CP liao.�
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WBA probably wont have the financial powers to spend on Benteke..�
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anyway, let's wait for further developments..�
said it before and will say it again...
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Nah, amend for you liao... hee hee
said it before and will say it again...
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I think they are talking about Ronaldino nick name "Buck Tooth". He played for Barca.
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Fat Ronaldo played for RM ....
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I think they are talking about Ronaldino nick name "Buck Tooth". He played for Barca.
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Fat Ronaldo played for RM ....
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personally i feel when fat ronaldo and buck tooth in their peak days are better then cr7 in his peak
I think they are talking about Ronaldino nick name "Buck Tooth". He played for Barca.
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Fat Ronaldo played for RM ....
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ronaldo played for both teams�
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I think they are talking about Ronaldino nick name "Buck Tooth". He played for Barca.
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Fat Ronaldo played for RM ....
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personally i feel when fat ronaldo and buck tooth in their peak days are better then cr7 in his peak
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ronaldinho had crazy skills and passes
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ronaldo is a one man scoring machine
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cr7 is a great player but not a legend like the above. His goals per game only peaked after joining la liga. Fat ronaldo as a 19 yr old scored 34 goals in 37 app in his first season with barca. That was sheer talent with not much training or experience in senior top flight games
Fat Ron played for Baca�
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i read some report last time, they over develop his leg muscle when he was young,�
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resulting in alot of inj when he reach around 30 , his tendon cannot cope or joint cannot cope. something like that.
i read some report last time, they over develop his leg muscle when he was young,
resulting in alot of inj when he reach around 30 , his tendon cannot cope or joint cannot cope. something like that.
Combined with his style of explosive pace and sudden change of directions plus the only way to stop him was to foul him
Eventually his knee gave way. Started at age 23, not 30
ronaldo played for both teams
i read some report last time, they over develop his leg muscle when he was young,�
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resulting in alot of inj when he reach around 30 , his tendon cannot cope or joint cannot cope. something like that.
Yeah, towards his later part of fat ronaldo's fb career often got pain-killer and other injections to get him match fit.
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Like flogging a race horse, until something gives.
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Sad but that's the ugly greed of football.
OK. The barca one is thin but the Real one is fat!
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even with a 48 inch waist, he can still play better than most professionals�
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even with a 48 inch waist, he can still play better than most professionals�
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he can't run but his shooting still bestest....
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he can't run but his shooting still bestest....
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think abit too late... heard he's gone to CP liao.
WBA probably wont have the financial powers to spend on Benteke..
anyway, let's wait for further developments..
Benteke wants the Palace move as well.
I only know Pool are watching him. Not sure if they have indeed made a move. This is usually quite a usual ploy by the seller to gain negotiation position
This deal might have impact on Mustafi to Arsenal as Velencia unlikely to let both of them leave.
[BBC]
[Fichajes]
Hmm, not sure if Klopp is hinting at anything
Makes scoring look easy
Klopp: Benteke, Balotelli & Ings are good strikers. They've improved, but six strikers is too comfortable. We'll wait (& see) what happens.
Hmm, not sure if Klopp is hinting at anything
Luckily he clarified.
http://www.liverpool...t-sale-11743077
So I guess Klopp will be keeping Sturridge, Origi, Ings and Firmino as striker
Hart is expected to be axed for the season opener.
http://www.express.c...-Premier-League
If Hart's performance at Euro 2016 was parameter, then even Harry Redknapp's granny could perform better, (Harry's famous quote not mine ho)
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Don't mind having Hart at the KOP Instead of the Pigeon mig
Karius will be No.1
If Hart's performance at Euro 2016 was parameter, then even Harry Redknapp's granny could perform better, (Harry's famous quote not mine ho)
Well some clubs are still seeing value. A �32m bid incoming...
Luckily he clarified.
http://www.liverpool...t-sale-11743077
So I guess Klopp will be keeping Sturridge, Origi, Ings and Firmino as striker�
I would be very surprise if Klopp decided that Ings is a surplus. Prior to his injury he was in very good form. And during his rehab, he showed good attitude and desire to recover and fight for his place. And he played well during the pre-season too.�
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Ings has the good old striker kind of traits, similar to old school striker like Alan Shearer. Hope he can flourish under Klopp's guidance.�
I would be very surprise if Klopp decided that Ings is a surplus. Prior to his injury he was in very good form. And during his rehab, he showed good attitude and desire to recover and fight for his place. And he played well during the pre-season too.
Ings has the good old striker kind of traits, similar to old school striker like Alan Shearer. Hope he can flourish under Klopp's guidance.
Agree. I feel that he offers something different from the rest of the strikers.
To get his chance, he might have to accept playing wide though. Expecting Firmino and Origi to lead the line. Sturridge's fitness remains a concern
Good to have but not a must... Cant really depend on Sturridge .
Milan have initiated contacts for Mangala. Milan are willing to offer �18m while City won't sell him for less than �30m.
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Christian Benteke should be off once this move is completed.
If we are talking about No.9, I can think of some more.
My favourite is still Ronaldo. Most complete No. 9 imo. Strength, speed, skill, technique.
May I also add Torres? He was world class with Liverpool.�
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Looks like it is Bravo to replace Hart
Manchester City have agreed personal terms with Barcelona goalkeeper Claudio Bravo. (SPORT)
Looks like it is Bravo to replace Hart
It's good for England team in a Long run actually:)
Finally Hart have some competition.
It's good for England team in a Long run actually:)
Don't think so. If Bravo is in, fully expect Hart to leave.
In other news, Palace is going to splash the cash from the sale of Bolasie on Benteke. They are also interested in signing Berahino and Young, according to Mirror
http://www.mirror.co...-target-8632430
Manchester City have agreed personal terms with Barcelona goalkeeper Claudio Bravo. (SPORT)
Looks like it is Bravo to replace Hart�
Huh? Target can change so drastically arrh? from Ter Stegen suddenly become Barca wants to sell Bravo?
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This just reminds me that one season Suarez was being targeted by RM, but next season he went to Barca...�
Expecting news on Benteke soon
Huh? Target can change so drastically arrh? from Ter Stegen suddenly become Barca wants to sell Bravo?
This just reminds me that one season Suarez was being targeted by RM, but next season he went to Barca...
Frankly, it all started with rumour of Pep not rating Hart. Think I shared before. As for who he wants as No1, I heard is Ter Stegen but there is also rumour of Bravo.
Just have to wait and see. Need Hart to move first.
This is enough to send 90% of Pool fan base into meltdown
True to form and policy, Mustafi's transfer hit snag as Arsenal refused to meet Valancia's valuation of 25 mil, 5 more than their offer price.
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Maybe another defeat will change their mind?
True to form and policy, Mustafi's transfer hit snag as Arsenal refused to meet Valancia's valuation of 25 mil, 5 more than their offer price.
Maybe another defeat will change their mind?
Over �5m is really stupid if true
Not saying Arsenal is wrong to stick to their valuation but it really has to be applied on a case by case. If he is going to improve the team as the starter, overpaying by �5m is really not much.
Of course if he is just for a back up, then maybe can save the funds for other more crucial position.
Even FSG has learnt. We overpaid so many players from Southampton just because the managers want them in as starters
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Jurgen Klopp will persevere with Alberto Moreno rather than dip into the transfer market. (Paul Joyce)
This is enough to send 90% of Pool fan base into meltdown
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True to form and policy, Mustafi's transfer hit snag as Arsenal refused to meet Valancia's valuation of 25 mil, 5 more than their offer price.
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Maybe another defeat will change their mind?
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Seriously 25m is a steal man..
AW wait somemore..�
Confirm other club is planning to seal the deal quietly with this kind of pricing lo..
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Don't forget Stones is worth 50m, i don't think Mustafi don't worth half the price lo.
Even FSG has learnt. We overpaid so many players from Southampton just because the managers want them in as starters
In this current market, we have no choice, as long you are in premier league and top teams, ppl will squeeze u dry..
Jurgen Klopp will persevere with Alberto Moreno rather than dip into the transfer market. (Paul Joyce)
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True to form and policy, Mustafi's transfer hit snag as Arsenal refused to meet Valancia's valuation of 25 mil, 5 more than their offer price.
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IMO, 25mil for a current German International, 24 years old seems a fair price in this current market.
Chelsea also looking for CB and was quoted in excess of 40mil for Koulibaly so I can see them scooping in on Mustafi if Arsenal hesitate further, don't say I never warn Wenger
25m will be reasonable..... there were reports he is in london...... all the time i suspect is meet chelsea not arsenal......... lol
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if is 25m i really hope he buys.... i don't see how he will reject because of 5m euros
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really incredible if true. i hope it is a smoke screen...
really neutrals also can see the position is a real issue.
if no LB comes in, I really wont be surprised to see Milner start more often than Moreno when fit.
Although slower, Milner can nevertheless provide width, cross and shoot so much better than Moreno... so there is offensive contributions. With coutinho on the left wing, the LB is often naked and vulnerable to attacks, Milner have more more defensive sense than Moreno...
Actually I am ok with the first bit that he chooses to perservere with Moreno. Because he works with him on a daily basis. So I cannot say I know Moreno as a player better than Klopp does. As for the second bit, about not dipping into the market, I tends to disagree. No matter what, we probably need a proper backup.
If really want to use Milner, he is more suited to back up for Clyne actually as he is right footed. Notice a couple of time vs Barcelona, he would cut in to bring the ball to his right foot before delivering a cross. Compared to a natural left footer who can whip in the cross straightaway, the attacking movement will be faster.
On the defensive sense, I do agree Milner is slight better due to his experience.
In this current market, we have no choice, as long you are in premier league and top teams, ppl will squeeze u dry..
Worse if you see buying from another PL club. Dry liao still squeeze some more
Manu favourites to land Gabigol !!
Smelling agent at work. Last week Leicester, this week Man Utd.
wah Chelsea is dumping Fabregas, putting him up for sale
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or will Liverpool bid for him? after all it lacks a good CM organizer after Gerrard left
"Poor" Fabregas, apparently he was offered to Juve, PSG and RM.
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Meanwhile, Ah Seng is playing his waiting game with Mustafi whose deal is getting more complicated as Valencia apparently does not want to lose both Mustafi and Abdennour, who may be heading to Everton but was also offered to Arsenal.
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Ah Seng has his Plan C in the much cheaper Johnny Evans. But this deal would� infuriate rather than appease gunner supporters for more reasons than financial one..
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"Poor" Fabregas, apparently he was offered to Juve, PSG and RM.
Meanwhile, Ah Seng is playing his waiting game with Mustafi whose deal is getting more complicated as Valencia apparently does not want to lose both Mustafi and Abdennour, who may be heading to Everton but was also offered to Arsenal.
Ah Seng has his Plan C in the much cheaper Johnny Evans. But this deal would infuriate rather than appease gunner supporters for more reasons than financial one..
Ya, posted before that Everton's interest in Abdennour has impact on Arsenal's pursuit of Mustafi. Valencia are more keen to let go of Abdennour and see Mustafi as an integral part to their team.
What this mean is that Arsenal likely have to pay through the nose for Mustafi by given Valencia an offer they can't refuse.
I wonder if he would try a Plan D, by going for Sakho. Remember early last season when Sakho wasn't given a look in by BR? Then out of the blue Sakho was given a new contract while not playing? Arsenal was pushing for him and forced Liverpool's hands to tie him down.
But if they really want to try, need to be fast. Klopp unlikely to entertain any transfer out late in the window
I remembered the reason that RM did not move for Ronaldinho was he was too ugly for a Galactico.
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Ah Seng might think that Sakho's playing style is too awkward for his gunners?
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"Poor" Fabregas, apparently he was offered to Juve, PSG and RM.
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so guess Juventus, PSG or stay in England are the options for him... or he can still go back Spain and join Valencia or At Madrid?
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still only 29... not as good as before but still a good CM imo
I remembered the reason that RM did not move for Ronaldinho was he was too ugly for a Galactico.
Ah Seng might think that Sakho's playing style is too awkward for his gunners?
Hmm, if he does, why bother to try last summer?
This is not reported but told to be by a credible source.
Personally, I certainly hope Wenger just go for Plan C. Still rate Sakho
wah Chelsea is dumping Fabregas, putting him up for sale
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Unless Chelsea get an irresistible offer for Fabregas, I don't think he will go.
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Chelsea got�plenty of�MFs but he can still play a part cos he is the most creative. Last night, they chose to play Kante and Matic but IMO only one was required�esp against an out of sorts Hammers and�Chelsea were crying out for�Fab's well known passes. Conte didn't feel the need to bring him on though and instead changed the wings and brought on an extra striker which brought their winner.
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just realised Everton has dumped Tony Hibbert
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this guy has been with Everton for 2 decades and they dumped him just like that.... just like how Newcastle dumped long serving Steven Taylor last season
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guess the only one-club man left in EPL is John Terry
On the way to Rennes on loan.
Zinedine Zidane has decided that midfielder Martin Odegaard will go on loan to Rennes for the 2016/17 campaign
2 weeks left for
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Man City to get rid of Yaya
Chelsea to get rid of Fabregas
Liverpool to get rid of Balotelli
Man Utd to get rid of Mata
Arsenal to get rid of... nay they are short of players now
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Man City to get rid of Yaya , Hart and Bony
Chelsea to get rid of Fabregas
Liverpool to get rid of Balotelli
Man Utd to get rid of Mata & BS
Arsenal to get rid of... nay they are short of players now Walcott & Ox
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[Paul Joyce]
They doesn't get the idea isn't it? �27m plus �3m rejected. They returned with �23m plus �7m?
Edited: Apparebtly WBA willing to match Liverpool's valuation but Benteke not keen to join. Maybe that's why Palace low-balled.
Edited by Osprey23, 16 August 2016 - 06:02 PM.
Crystal palace have bid rejected by Liverpool for Christian Benteke £23m guaranteed. £7m in add ons
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They doesn't get the idea isn't it? £27m plus £3m rejected. They returned with £23m plus £7m?
Edited: Apparebtly WBA willing to match Liverpool's valuation but Benteke not keen to join. Maybe that's why Palace low-balled.
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But nowadays, the other most important factor is whether the player wants to leave
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If Fabregas wants to leave this window, he will go
Unless Chelsea get an irresistible offer for Fabregas, I don't think he will go.
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Chelsea got�plenty of�MFs but he can still play a part cos he is the most creative. Last night, they chose to play Kante and Matic but IMO only one was required�esp against an out of sorts Hammers and�Chelsea were crying out for�Fab's well known passes. Conte didn't feel the need to bring him on though and instead changed the wings and brought on an extra striker which brought their winner.
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Conte clarified the Fabregas situation later but maybe he's just trying to be diplomatic. I still don't think he will go .
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Although Mustafi remains priority and he is keen to join, Arsenal might be forced to consider cheaper alternatives such as Omer Toprak & Simon Kjaer
Rumours that Ballotelli ask to join Italian club Sassuolo may not be concluded.
Goal.com
Really hope his move to Seria A can conclude soon. Any club will do.
Gabigol is very competitive and ambitious but discovered Inter Milan undergoes a transition after being sold to Suning group. In addition, Gabigol was told that Inter Milan do not have a very competitive team and power to fight for titles now.
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This might explains why the agent is working hard again.
Valencia needs to recoup �10m to meet FFP. Insisting on �30m on Mustafi as he is not one who Valencia are keen to sell. Hence the hard stance.
So if Valencia managed to off load Abdennour for more than �10m, they will entertain any bid for Mustafi.
Arsenal really have to move fast if they want the player.
David Ornstein of BBC (very reliable) is saying that Arsenal is yet to agree fee with Valencia over Mustafi because they are holding funds back for a possible striker signing.
Although Mustafi remains priority and he is keen to join, Arsenal might be forced to consider cheaper alternatives such as Omer Toprak & Simon Kjaer
Stupid... we will end up with nothing...
Stupid... we will end up with nothing...
After all the bank Acc will be 30m more :)
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More on Arsenal's pursuit of Mustafi.
Valencia needs to recoup �10m to meet FFP. Insisting on �30m on Mustafi as he is not one who Valencia are keen to sell. Hence the hard stance.
So if Valencia managed to off load Abdennour for more than �10m, they will entertain any bid for Mustafi.
Arsenal really have to move fast if they want the player.�
The transfer strategy by Wenger is damn�
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Finally I think, end up not strengthening any position. Next year will probably find two of the creative/attacking players leave for cheap as they are also disillusioned with the club.
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Penny wise, pound foolish...
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Dunno how true is this but this price is fair. Medel is a proper baddie we need in midfield
Let the scramble begins
Gary Medel is Klopp's 'greatest desire' & Liverpool have bid over �8.7M for the defensive midfielder.
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Dunno how true is this but this price is fair. Medel is a proper baddie we need in midfieldTelegraph reported that the Reds 'have bid turn down' in race for Gary Medel.
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Ex-Cardiff City player Medel now plays for Inter Milan.
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Quite a versatile defensive player needed to bolster Pool's 'iffy' defences.
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Can see Pool very pissed. Leaking all these stupid add on clauses to the papers
http://www.express.c...lan-Pardew-News
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Liverpool rejected Crystal Palace's latest bid for Benteke because one of the clauses was they would pay £2.5m if they got top four. (Paul Joyce)
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Can see Pool very pissed. Leaking all these stupid add on clauses to the papers
http://www.express.c...lan-Pardew-News
Haha.
Might as well say pay double the price if they are EPL champion:)
Liverpool rejected Crystal Palace's latest bid for Benteke because one of the clauses was they would pay �2.5m if they got top four. (Paul Joyce)
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Can see Pool very pissed. Leaking all these stupid add on clauses to the papers
http://www.express.c...lan-Pardew-News
The worry about this from Pool's point of view is that Palace may decide to go for Remy now from what I read cos Pardew has managed Remy before n he is much cheaper. Pool under FSG has stood firm on sales most times n got away the better eg Sterling but I'm not too sure if it will always work. My guess is they will let him go for a slightly better price n more achievable add on clauses but don't think they can get the full 32.5mil even with add ons, my 2 cents.
The worry about this from Pool's point of view is that Palace may decide to go for Remy now from what I read cos Pardew has managed Remy before n he is much cheaper. Pool under FSG has stood firm on sales most times n got away the better eg Sterling but I'm not too sure if it will always work. My guess is they will let him go for a slightly better price n more achievable add on clauses but don't think they can get the full 32.5mil even with add ons, my 2 cents.
Agree bro. I seriously don't think Pool are looking to recoup every cents spent. I would believe a �25m with �3m of realistic addons would clinch the deal.
Pool already has an offer on the table from WBA that matched Pool's asking. They won't back down until Palace comes up with a reasonable offer. If Palace decide to walk, so be it and Benteke will have no choice but to accept a move to WBA if he still wants to play football this season.
Pay 2.5m for getting TOP 4?
Haha.
Might as well say pay double the price if they are EPL champion:)�
CP is a real relegation candidate this season.. judging by their form in 2016 alone... they also lost their best player bolaise..�
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so they are pretty desperate.. �Pool should play it to its advantage�
I also think he is coming to Liverpool, but to join Everton FC
Frankly, unless one of the senior CBs is leaving, I do not think there is any truth in this
Come on...where is the LB that pool needs. Surely not another CB.
I think Mustafi can play at LB. If not mistaken, thought I remember him playing at FB for Germany in the Euros though he is recognised as a CB.
Come on...where is the LB that pool needs. Surely not another CB.
Mustafi I seriously think is Valencia using us to force Arsenal to act.
Also, Spanish paper Cadena reported Liverpool offered �10m+Alberto for Mustafi which was rejected, they want closer to their �25m valuation.
Who in the right mind will think that Luis Alberto is worth �15m??
Edited by Osprey23, 17 August 2016 - 10:43 PM.
Not sure how much is the release clause though
According to SER Deportivos Valencia (a radio station), Valencia are in negotiations with Liverpool over a move for Shkodran Mustafi. The biggest plus point for Valencia to deal with Liverpool is that Luis Alberto could be included in the deal going the other way.
Frankly, unless one of the senior CBs is leaving, I do not think there is any truth in this�
Forgot where I had read a report on an interview with�Shkodran Mustafi that he was actually interested of coming to Liverpool.
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It was the club that will decide to release him if any clubs offer is too good to reject. If a player wishes to come to Pool knowing that Pool will not feature in UCL, he is
Forgot where I had read a report on an interview with Shkodran Mustafi that he was actually interested of coming to Liverpool.
It was the club that will decide to release him if any clubs offer is too good to reject. If a player wishes to come to Pool knowing that Pool will not feature in UCL, he is
James Pearce has rubbished both links to Medel and Mustafi.
Still believe Arsenal will be his most likely destination if he is to come to England
Hehe, I give up liao. Will just trust Klopp on his assessment. If he think Moreno and Milner are good enough to last us this season. I will just back his decision.
Mustafi I seriously think is Valencia using us to force Arsenal to act.
Also, Spanish paper Cadena reported Liverpool offered �10m+Alberto for Mustafi which was rejected, they want closer to their �25m valuation.
Who in the right mind will think that Luis Alberto is worth �15m??�
i firmly believe the non-actions of Klopp is highly due to the lack of available options (at right price) at the moment. It is clear as daylight Pool needs to reinforce this position.�
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Alberto needs to justify his place in the squad in the meantime when given the chance. I think Milner will be starting more games than him when fit at the moment, until Moreno clears his head (and that pony-tail)...�
i firmly believe the non-actions of Klopp is highly due to the lack of available options (at right price) at the moment. It is clear as daylight Pool needs to reinforce this position.
Alberto needs to justify his place in the squad in the meantime when given the chance. I think Milner will be starting more games than him when fit at the moment, until Moreno clears his head (and that pony-tail)...
I have a feeling Klopp has in mind what kind of LB he has in mind. It seems to me that he places more emphasis on the full backs offensive ability of defensive. If he wants a LB who is solid at defending, Hector is there for him to sign. Paying �20m is not beyond us but apparently we walked away.
Agree with you that maybe there isn't one who fits the profile and is available at the right price.
Klopp with the long term contract, seems to be more patient to wait for the right player. Dahoud is a good example.
I have a feeling Klopp has in mind what kind of LB he has in mind. It seems to me that he places more emphasis on the full backs offensive ability of defensive. If he wants a LB who is solid at defending, Hector is there for him to sign. Paying �20m is not beyond us but apparently we walked away.
Agree with you that maybe there isn't one who fits the profile and is available at the right price.
Klopp with the long term contract, seems to be more patient to wait for the right player. Dahoud is a good example.�
Reading some reports Pool in for Dutchman Bruno Martins Indi? He is versatile as can play CB and LB but I don't think he is particularly good at going forward if I remember when he played for the Dutch national team. This guy's a real defender so maybe just rumours.
Reading some reports Pool in for Dutchman Bruno Martins Indi? He is versatile as can play CB and LB but I don't think he is particularly good at going forward if I remember when he played for the Dutch national team. This guy's a real defender so maybe just rumours.
Read it. Same as Mustafi imo. If none of the senior CB moving on, I don't see why we need to sign him. Klavan already can play LB if need be.
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Mediawatch: Joe Hart is off to Liverpool
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This is a naughty cutie poke
Mediawatch: Joe Hart is off to Liverpool
Football365
I also believe he is heading to Liverpool
To join Everton
I also believe he is heading to Liverpool
To join Everton
Hart now becoming the next paul robinson.
England ruined him
That everton currebt goalie very good leh. Stopped spurs from winning leh.
Hart now becoming the next paul robinson.
England ruined himMaarten Stekelenburg was the Dutch National team goalie for many years and I felt he was up amongst the top goalies at one stage but don't know how come he lost his way and�I was surprised he ended up at Fulham and then went on loan to other teams and now back to EPL with Everton.
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You can see he's quite a good goalie though maybe he's not consistent and makes errors now and then but then again which goalie doesn't? Ironically, he reminds me of Joe Hart!! Good shot stopper many a times but prone to the odd mistake.
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It seems Pep wants a sweeper keeper for City which Hart certainly is not. These days damn cham, FB expected to attack on top of defending, keeper expected to be a sweeper n good with his feet and distribution!!�
Maarten Stekelenburg was the Dutch National team goalie for many years and I felt he was up amongst the top goalies at one stage but don't know how come he lost his way and�I was surprised he ended up at Fulham and then went on loan to other teams and now back to EPL with Everton.
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You can see he's quite a good goalie though maybe he's not consistent and makes errors now and then but then again which goalie doesn't? Ironically, he reminds me of Joe Hart!! Good shot stopper many a times but prone to the odd mistake.
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It seems Pep wants a sweeper keeper for City which Hart certainly is not. These days damn cham, FB expected to attack on top of defending, keeper expected to be a sweeper n good with his feet and distribution!!�
Joe Hart is a good top GK under normal circumstances, but tends to fumble on big occasions, the recent Euro 2016 is a case in point. Man City probably is too big a shoe for him under Pep Guardiola.
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He is like Tim Howard who didn't do well in Man U, yet did great for Everton/USA.
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Pool accepted Palace's bid of �27m + �5m.
Next out would be Luis Alberto. �5m to Valencia
Hope big Ben do well for CP except against Pool. So we have every chance to get that 5mil add on
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Yah, how about he fulfils the potential and hope that we harboured when Pool signed him, which is to score against all other teams (but not incl. Pool, since we didn't expect him to score against us when we signed him, right?), and win more points - especially against the top sides. Then can help Pool too�
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Talking of which, didn't CP and Pardew hate Ben when he came on, earned that penalty at the death and scored it to win all 3 points last season? Looks like Pool is not the only team who likes to sign players who scored against it�
salah boh?
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Johnny Evans also worths 20m pounds?
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More bad news for Arsenal fans: The club have failed in the transfer market, again. This time, it's a �16m move for West Bromwich Albion defender Jonny Evans that has been knocked back, according to the Birmingham Mail, with an offer upwards of �20m needed to prise the former Manchester United man away from the Hawthorns.
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how come Liverpool din express interest in Fabio Coentrao?
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tio�frozen out by Marcelo at Real Madrid and spent his season on loan... but still a�good LB
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missed out Euro 2016 (and the trophy) though
salah boh?
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Johnny Evans also worths 20m pounds?
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Wait some more ..
Later one more cb injured, the price will be 40m.
German young cb priced at 25m don't want, chose one manu reject at a much older age at 20m.�
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AW, 5m is a small money to your club leh..
But the talent you can get is a HUGE diff !!
how come Liverpool din express interest in Fabio Coentrao?
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tio�frozen out by Marcelo at Real Madrid and spent his season on loan... but still a�good LB
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missed out Euro 2016 (and the trophy) though
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he was the next best thing till he went to RM. Then everything went down south. My guess ? Lousy attitude�
salah boh?
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Johnny Evans also worths 20m pounds?
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Wenger claims it's tough to find�value in the transfer market and English clubs are being targeted for high prices which�is true but that doesn't mean you stop buying if you need a player.
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Anyway it's not only the overseas clubs targeting English clubs but even English clubs setting high prices for their players as can be seen from Everton asking 75mil for Lukaku and WBA now asking 20mil for Evans etc. and as the clock ticks ever closer to 31/8, prices might be even higher for desperate buyers.
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http://www.mirror.co...-market-8655625
also kena spoilt market by Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea
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rather than overpaying for an average player, might as well spend�that amount of�money in the youth academy and hope one or two wonderkids can step up
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Wenger claims it's tough to find�value in the transfer market and English clubs are being targeted for high prices which�is true but that doesn't mean you stop buying if you need a player.
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Anyway it's not only the overseas clubs targeting English clubs but even English clubs setting high prices for their players as can be seen from Everton asking 75mil for Lukaku and WBA now asking 20mil for Evans etc. and as the clock ticks ever closer to 31/8, prices might be even higher for desperate buyers.
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Eriksen. Alderweid. Wayang. Lloris all on the cheap.
No wonder they also unwilling to splurge big.
They like arsenal also looking for value.
Unfortunately competitiors are splurging like money is water.
So i can say spurs n arsenal really need to rethink or lose out further unless their value proved otherwise
salah boh?
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Johnny Evans also worths 20m pounds?
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wah lao... quick, somebody phone Pool to hold the 32m Benteke deal, ask to raise it to at least 40m...
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how come Pool's sale of Allen and Ibe both should be worth at least 1.5x of Evans, but sold so cheaply???
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Somebody said the EPL market is crazy.
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I agree totally.
also kena spoilt market by Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea
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rather than overpaying for an average player, might as well spend�that amount of�money in the youth academy and hope one or two wonderkids can step up
In theory, yes spending on own youth academy is the best investment but can you wait for potential to be realized**? Fans are impatient, the Board is impatient and actually everyone is impatient so sadly, youth players don't get much chance esp at top clubs.
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If I were to be a youth player, I'll select a smaller club where my chance of�breaking in to the first team�is higher but then again the rewards at the top clubs make them a�natural draw for the better youth players.
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Lastly, yes market is being spolit by the 3 big spenders and some other clubs�as well but we're in a very practical world where if you don't pay the going rate, you don't get the players to bolster your squad and don't come crying later saying no value, we can't compete financially�etc cos it's who dares wins!
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**Edited: if it gets realized at all!!
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Spurs also one of the niao club.. maybe more niao than arsenal. But they lucky. Got alli for so cheap.
Eriksen. Alderweid. Wayang. Lloris all on the cheap.
No wonder they also unwilling to splurge big.
They like arsenal also looking for value.
Unfortunately competitiors are splurging like money is water.
So i can say spurs n arsenal really need to rethink or lose out further unless their value proved otherwise�
confirmed. read somewhere that the top earner is Lloris at 75-80kpw ? come'on, lousy sterling already earning 180k and Fabian Delph 90k
Spurs also one of the niao club.. maybe more niao than arsenal. But they lucky. Got alli for so cheap.
Eriksen. Alderweid. Wayang. Lloris all on the cheap.
No wonder they also unwilling to splurge big.
They like arsenal also looking for value.
Unfortunately competitiors are splurging like money is water.
So i can say spurs n arsenal really need to rethink or lose out further unless their value proved otherwiseI don't know who more niao, Wenger or Levy?? haha
Actually I think Wenger more niao cos Levy good at low balling whereas Wenger don't even bother to low ball!!
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Barca getting Dutch National Team keeper Cillesen as replacement for the outgoing Bravo.
Sell 17mil, buy 10mil provided Ajax accepts. Younger keeper but Bravo supposedly the better keeper on paper and def more experienced.
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http://www.dailymail...ester-City.html
I don't know who more niao, Wenger or Levy?? haha
Actually I think Wenger more niao cos Levy good at low balling whereas Wenger don't even bother to low ball!!$0
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40 million plus 1 pound is considered low-balling lor. No?
40 million plus 1 pound is considered low-balling lor. No?
Seriously speaking I don't treat it as low balling but niao�cos it did exceed the suspected buy out clause by 1pound. Low balling is putting in an offer well below the expected price. Wenger feels market overpriced so he won't even�bother to put in a bid whereas Levy will try his luck
Seriously speaking I don't treat it as low balling but niao�cos it did exceed the suspected buy out clause by 1pound. Low balling is putting in an offer well below the expected price. Wenger feels market overpriced so he won't even�bother to put in a bid whereas Levy will try his luck
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The market price for Suarez is definitely well above 40 million and 1 pound. That offer was definitely a low-ball offer and also trying his luck.�
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Not targeting against your comment but I'm just so disgusted by Arsene Wenger.�
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If there is one other team (besides Liverpool) that I would support to win the title, it would be Arsenal. A big club (at least Emirates stadium is much bigger then Anfield) like Arsenal does not have to try their luck in the transfer market. If a manager is serious about getting a player, the club should offer what is worth, rather than a value that is just (by a hair width) above the release clause.�
Barca getting Dutch National Team keeper Cillesen as replacement for the outgoing Bravo.
Sell 17mil, buy 10mil provided Ajax accepts. Younger keeper but Bravo supposedly the better keeper on paper and def more experienced.
http://www.dailymail...ester-City.html
Ter Stegen will be the first choice with Cillessen as back up.
The market price for Suarez is definitely well above 40 million and 1 pound. That offer was definitely a low-ball offer and also trying his luck.�
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Not targeting against your comment but I'm just so disgusted by Arsene Wenger.�
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If there is one other team (besides Liverpool) that I would support to win the title, it would be Arsenal. A big club (at least Emirates stadium is much bigger then Anfield) like Arsenal does not have to try their luck in the transfer market. If a manager is serious about getting a player, the club should offer what is worth, rather than a value that is just (by a hair width) above the release clause.�
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No worries, I agree and that's why I had few posts on this cos I also strongly disagree on his methods. Just imagine, we are not Arsenal fans n we�feel so bad about it, what more the paying supporters at the Emirates? Even 2 of their ex-players said so.......
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Ter Stegen will be the first choice with Cillessen as back up.
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Tks for the info!! If I were Cillessen, I won't go to Barca cos my National team place will be in jeopardy with the lack of playing time. Admittedly, the lure of being a Barca player is strong and so too the $.
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Maybe Cillessen is�confident of his ability to oust�Ter Stegen? Normally, it's hard for a�no. 2 goalie to oust the no. 1 unless the no. 1 had continuous bad games or he got injures and the no. 2 performed spectacularly well.�Anyway good luck to Cillessen!�
Barca getting Dutch National Team keeper Cillesen as replacement for the outgoing Bravo.
Sell 17mil, buy 10mil provided Ajax accepts. Younger keeper but Bravo supposedly the better keeper on paper and def more experienced.
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Kinda difficult for them to maintain the same rotation for these 2 top goalkeepers whereby 1 starts the league matches and the other one starts the cup matches...� gk are supposed to start every matches to build a good understanding with the defense
Kinda difficult for them to maintain the same rotation for these 2 top goalkeepers whereby 1 starts the league matches and the other one starts the cup matches...� gk are supposed to start every matches to build a good understanding with the defense
Exactly! I'm not really a fan of rotating goalies but admittedly some 1st team game time needs to be given to an equal adversary. Unlike outfield players who can be played in a diff position, u can't do this for a goalie but it has been proven many times how important a 2nd goalie is so good move by Barca to get a good goalie as back up!
Tks for the info!! If I were Cillessen, I won't go to Barca cos my National team place will be in jeopardy with the lack of playing time. Admittedly, the lure of being a Barca player is strong and so too the $.
Maybe Cillessen is confident of his ability to oust Ter Stegen? Normally, it's hard for a no. 2 goalie to oust the no. 1 unless the no. 1 had continuous bad games or he got injures and the no. 2 performed spectacularly well. Anyway good luck to Cillessen!
From Barcelona's perspective, best scenario would be both keepers fighting over the No.1 spot. However, at the end of the day, you still need to decide who is No.1.
Barcelona might adopt the same strategy of having one for league and one for cup games.
Exactly! I'm not really a fan of rotating goalies but admittedly some 1st team game time needs to be given to an equal adversary. Unlike outfield players who can be played in a diff position, u can't do this for a goalie but it has been proven many times how important a 2nd goalie is so good move by Barca to get a good goalie as back up!
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Yup, it is a critical position, if your backup is a joker, that is it... however, if u got 2 equally capable men vying for this position,one will definitely be unhappy and seek a move away, just like Diego Lopez, it was the same for him at Real Madrid and now he is equally unhappy at AC Milan...
Wenger sharing his thoughts on transfers. Worrying that English clubs will be suffocated in this 2-tier value systems. Also with the high wages paid, players will be more difficult to be offloaded and even if they are, clubs continue to subsidise their wages.
http://www.telegraph...-transfer-mark/
Last para backed up what I said previously on the criteria set by Wenger. Doesn't mean Wenger only looking at young players when looking at potential targets.
He agreed terms and passed medical before the deal fell through due to Levy interfering
Dunno why, I enjoyed the outgoing more than incoming for Pool this Window.
That's what Wenger meant I guess
[Sven Claes, Belgium HLN journalist]
Joe Hart is interested in a move to Sevilla but such a deal would mean Man City subsidising his �140,000-a-week salary. (Source: Daily Mail)
That's what Wenger meant I guessI reckon disproportionate wage inflation is only an English phenomena and not applicable to other EU clubs other than the traditional European football powerhouses.
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This will affect English clubs when they want to clear non performing players and this Joe Hart example is a glaring one.
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I hope that clubs like Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs and others maintain their financial prudence, otherwise there will be nothing except bloating troubles ahead.
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Feel sorry for poor Joe. Pep Guardiola means business, serious business.
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At this moment, still no agreement between Benteke and Palace. Negotiations still ongoing - not sure it will be done today.
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Announcement later in the day. Will not be in time for Big Ben to play against Spurs.
Edited by Osprey23, 20 August 2016 - 08:02 AM.
Watford are benefitting from the Italian owners they have apparently
It's quite obvious there would be "2 tier" markets, one for the european leagues and one for EPL.
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Even in wet market, will one sell the provisions at the same price to a dressed up lady with maid in attendance as compared to a simply dressed housewife? It's the same in all other trades where prices are negotiable.
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Even before the huge jump in TV money, the bottom clubs of EPL earned more than that those at or near the top of other leagues, eg Atletico and BVB.
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Last years champion Leicester earn about 100 mil in TV money when Aresenal topped with about 110 mil by virtue of no. of live telecasts.
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For the next 3 years, the relegated clubs will get 99 mil (then the parachute money) while the champion will get about 165 mil.
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Arsenal last reported cash in hand according to BBC is about 220 mil.
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If you want the right player at the right price, then you can wait long long. Like bro Spring said we not being Arsenal fans (had loved watching them esp during Henry and Bergkamp time)� already feel fed up. Really feel for the fans.
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And places outside the top 4.
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In any industries, if you don't spend on R&D, recruitment and innovations and still hope to stay on top.
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Hope the youth who become stars will stay on "meager" wages and lack of playing time?
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And places outside the top 4.
In any industries, if you don't spend on R&D, recruitment and innovations and still hope to stay on top.
Success breeds success.
Invest in youth academy and be a selling club?
Hope the youth who become stars will stay on "meager" wages and lack of playing time?
There are more than one way to achieve success. Investing on youth does not mean you become a selling club.
Think back. Before Man Utd started their domination in the 90s, what enabled it. Look at Barcelona. This team is built from academy, or spent millions to assembled.
i am not against spending. I am just not convinced that this is the ONLY way
DEAL DONE: Watford have signed midfielder Roberto Pereyra from Juventus on a long-term deal.
Watford are benefitting from the Italian owners they have apparently
Huh? He very highly rated in fifa...Argentina international right?
There are more than one way to achieve success. Investing on youth does not mean you become a selling club.
Think back. Before Man Utd started their domination in the 90s, what enabled it. Look at Barcelona. This team is built from academy, or spent millions to assembled.
i am not against spending. I am just not convinced that this is the ONLY way
Totally agreed it's not the ONLY way. Try telling that to Wenger whose ONLY way is to buy value!
Clubs have to invest in youth for sure, supporters like nothing better than a home grown talent to work his way into the first team n that's why they often cut them more slack than a big money purchase.
That said, when your academy doesn't have a player to fill a position that requires urgent filling, u have to look at the transfer mkt to fill it n if it means paying abit more, so be it. Of course not the kind of money that buys Higuain nor the price that Lukaku is quoted at. 25-30mil for Mustafi is high but not crazy.
Totally agreed it's not the ONLY way. Try telling that to Wenger whose ONLY way is to buy value!
Clubs have to invest in youth for sure, supporters like nothing better than a home grown talent to work his way into the first team n that's why they often cut them more slack than a big money purchase.
That said, when your academy doesn't have a player to fill a position that requires urgent filling, u have to look at the transfer mkt to fill it n if it means paying abit more, so be it. Of course not the kind of money that buys Higuain nor the price that Lukaku is quoted at. 25-30mil for Mustafi is high but not crazy.
Agree totally. But if we look at Cech, isn't it a signing to fill a position that they have no immediate talent to fill? Talking about value, I am not sure if Xhaka at �30m is exactly that.
Therefore, I do believe Wenger, although trying to get value buys whenever he can, has accepted that overpaying for some might be inevitable.
Mustafi is a strange situation. My opinion is that they can afford but for some reasons, are unwilling to push it through. Let's see how this develops.
But i respect this ah seng wanker. Those gooners sibei ungrateful. Where the f**k were the fans when arsenal won the title. Many cups under ah seng. Mind u this arsenal last time sibei many ppl dun like to watch them one. Coz they defensive minded n play long balls one and at one point of time in mid 90s sliding down.
But came ah seng to rescue the club.. now the very grateful fans at that time wan2 turn on him again. Haiz... real hyposcry rite.
Anyway whining from a spurs fan. Hehe. Coz during this period spurs declined. No trophies. Only some worthless cup n finish below the gooners every time. Sibei sianz one.
And then out of the blue. The girl guide in london became rich overnight and spoil market by paying for players and heng heng got success n then eatablish themselves as a bigger club.
Then anoter blue man citeh came along and also bought the title.
Now got 2 new big clubs to concern with liao. Haiz
Isn't Bergovic there as No.2?
Another player not joining Chelsea would be Lukaku. According to Koeman, Lukaku had committed to him that he would be staying at Everton
Edited by Osprey23, 20 August 2016 - 05:05 PM.
Lol, welcome to the PL, Mr Conte.
Actually hor. I would like arsenal not to challenge for anything and that they deteriote and wenger leaves and the team in shambles.
But i respect this ah seng wanker. Those gooners sibei ungrateful. Where the f**k were the fans when arsenal won the title. Many cups under ah seng. Mind u this arsenal last time sibei many ppl dun like to watch them one. Coz they defensive minded n play long balls one and at one point of time in mid 90s sliding down.
But came ah seng to rescue the club.. now the very grateful fans at that time wan2 turn on him again. Haiz... real hyposcry rite.
Anyway whining from a spurs fan. Hehe. Coz during this period spurs declined. No trophies. Only some worthless cup n finish below the gooners every time. Sibei sianz one.
And then out of the blue. The girl guide in london became rich overnight and spoil market by paying for players and heng heng got success n then eatablish themselves as a bigger club.
Then anoter blue man citeh came along and also bought the title.
Now got 2 new big clubs to concern with liao. Haiznot really, under�George Graham� they are doing quite well also .
i love his style.
Update: All is done.
Announcement later in the day. Will not be in time for Big Ben to play against Spurs.
Confirmed.
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Actually hor. I would like arsenal not to challenge for anything and that they deteriote and wenger leaves and the team in shambles.
But i respect this ah seng wanker. Those gooners sibei ungrateful. Where the f**k were the fans when arsenal won the title. Many cups under ah seng. Mind u this arsenal last time sibei many ppl dun like to watch them one. Coz they defensive minded n play long balls one and at one point of time in mid 90s sliding down.
But came ah seng to rescue the club.. now the very grateful fans at that time wan2 turn on him again. Haiz... real hyposcry rite.
Anyway whining from a spurs fan. Hehe. Coz during this period spurs declined. No trophies. Only some worthless cup n finish below the gooners every time. Sibei sianz one.
And then out of the blue. The girl guide in london became rich overnight and spoil market by paying for players and heng heng got success n then eatablish themselves as a bigger club.
Then anoter blue man citeh came along and also bought the title.
Now got 2 new big clubs to concern with liao. Haiz
Have you all had a.manager that won nothing for 10 yrs? Did you all even have a manager for 10 yrs
It's quite obvious there would be "2 tier" markets, one for the european leagues and one for EPL.
Even in wet market, will one sell the provisions at the same price to a dressed up lady with maid in attendance as compared to a simply dressed housewife? It's the same in all other trades where prices are negotiable.
Even before the huge jump in TV money, the bottom clubs of EPL earned more than that those at or near the top of other leagues, eg Atletico and BVB.
Last years champion Leicester earn about 100 mil in TV money when Aresenal topped with about 110 mil by virtue of no. of live telecasts.
For the next 3 years, the relegated clubs will get 99 mil (then the parachute money) while the champion will get about 165 mil.
Arsenal last reported cash in hand according to BBC is about 220 mil.
If you want the right player at the right price, then you can wait long long. Like bro Spring said we not being Arsenal fans (had loved watching them esp during Henry and Bergkamp time) already feel fed up. Really feel for the fans.
Can I ask you something? Do you support money or man u?
Diego Lopez is expected to join Chelsea from AC Milan in the next few days as back-up for Thibaut Courtois. [Mirror]
Isn't Bergovic there as No.2?
Another player not joining Chelsea would be Lukaku. According to Koeman, Lukaku had committed to him that he would be staying at Everton
Either Lopez becomes the 3rd choice goalie or something's happening to Begovic. Think more likely the former. Don't underestimate the need for a good 3rd goalie as we saw last season when Courtois got injured n also this season at Pool with Karius.
That's why I don't know whether Pep is brave or he is silly being so blunt with Hart. Till Bravo actually comes, he's playing a dangerous game if u ask me as if something happens to Caballero, he doesn't have a 3rd quality goalie! Outfield players not really an issue to ostracise someone but not a specialised position like goalie. Anyway Pep Shld know better so who am I to question him.
Gaffer a bit cheesed off in the interview... I feel for him... fan expectations are so crazy nowadays... I'm guilty of wishing for some variables to change as well... the following quote is telling of how he feels.
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After the match, the Frenchman made a passionate defence of the accusation he is reluctant to spend and promised he would spend astonishing amounts on the right player.
��Why do you say I am reluctant? I don�t understand that,� said Wenger. � If we find players who can strengthen our team we are not reluctant. I would spend �300m if I find the right player and I have �300m.��He could not hide his disappointment to be thrown questions about finance and transfers in the immediate aftermath of an intense match with quite a lot on the line, even at this early stage of the campaign.��Unfortunately, nobody speaks about the performance of Rob Holding,� Wenger went on. �You should be happy � he is English, he is 20. But I am sorry he didn�t cost �55m so he cannot be good. He had an outstanding performance for a young boy who has never played in the Premier League up against a great player. We don�t talk about the players any more. We speak about anything else than football.��
COYG!
Edited by ins1dious, 21 August 2016 - 01:38 PM.
Have you all had a.manager that won nothing for 10 yrs? Did you all even have a manager for 10 yrs
Can I ask you something? Do you support money or man u?I would marry the one I love. But if it turned out that she is rich .....
Valencia wants �50m for Mustafi
Time to show them the middle finger�
If really at this price, I won't blame Wenger for not budging cos this is crazy even in today's market!
Want to carrot head Arsenal so they meet FFP and get a Pedro as well.
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That's why I don't know whether Pep is brave or he is silly being so blunt with Hart. Till Bravo actually comes, he's playing a dangerous game if u ask me as if something happens to Caballero, he doesn't have a 3rd quality goalie! Outfield players not really an issue to ostracise someone but not a specialised position like goalie. Anyway Pep Shld know better so who am I to question him.
Hart won't be sold until Bravo is in. So I think they are still quite covered in that aspect.
Hart won't be sold until Bravo is in. So I think they are still quite covered in that aspect.
You think so? I mean being covered?
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With all due respect, Caballero whilst decent is not top 4 level goalie so if Bravo gets suspended or injured, City might be found wanting I feel. I don't quite agree on the ostracizing of Hart,�could have been handled better but apparently Pep�has done this before at his previous clubs but first time for a goalie if not mistaken. We shall see.
You think so? I mean being covered?
With all due respect, Caballero whilst decent is not top 4 level goalie so if Bravo gets suspended or injured, City might be found wanting I feel. I don't quite agree on the ostracizing of Hart, could have been handled better but apparently Pep has done this before at his previous clubs but first time for a goalie if not mistaken. We shall see.
Don't think it is ostracising him. If he willing to stay as 3rd choice, Pep won't mind a bit I think.
Anyway, hearing a bid from Everton is in
Edited by Osprey23, 22 August 2016 - 04:31 PM.
Valencia wants �50m for Mustafi
Time to show them the middle finger
Always rem this... peter is a man u fan...
Always rem this... peter is a man u fan...
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Though the only thing that he loves more than Man Utd is his money
Valencia wants �50m for Mustafi
Time to show them the middle finger�
This sound normal actually.
I was surprised at 25m initially when gunner going for him.
AW must be cursing himself not to give that extra 5m back then...
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I think he have no choice now but to pay 20m for that manu reject liao..
Though the only thing that he loves more than Man Utd is his money
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in this case... he can have both....
I can sense he is obviously pissed about so many people telling him who to sign.
I seriously think that Klopp wants to build and does not believe in using transfers to solve all problems.
Official stance is that he needs to play elsewhere to regain his form and fitness.
Personally, I feel he had pissed Klopp so much that his Anfield future is gone.
[RMC]
Liverpool are considering sending Sakho out on loan
Official stance is that he needs to play elsewhere to regain his form and fitness.
Personally, I feel he had pissed Klopp so much that his Anfield future is gone.�
hope he stays and Klopp gives him a chance. Pool only has Matip as the other 1st team CB. He is kind of untested in the EPL and fitness level is a big question mark at this time. Hence, it is wise not to let Sakho go for the sake of the team. �
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Still need to get rid of Markovic, Wisdom, Illori, Balo by transfer or loan. Dun think Klopp wants the window closed without doing these necessary... �
Klopp on transfer speculation. "I wait for the day when the transfer window is closed. I can't believe how obsessed you all are with this."
I can sense he is obviously pissed about so many people telling him who to sign.
I seriously think that Klopp wants to build and does not believe in using transfers to solve all problems.�
1 year nia.... wenger tio 20 yrs liao lol
Liverpool are considering sending Sakho out on loan
Official stance is that he needs to play elsewhere to regain his form and fitness.
Personally, I feel he had pissed Klopp so much that his Anfield future is gone.if he gets rid of sakho, he's an idiot. for now, sakho n lovren should b the 1st choice pairing. i havent seen matip play, so cant comment. klavan is good, but i dont think he is ahead of sakho. n whatever petty differences he n sakho had, im sure they can settle it professionally.�
Even Carragher told Klopp to strengthen the team.
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There is a good article on Soccernet, but directed at Ah Seng, on how the football scene and transfer market has changed since the influx of TV money.
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http://www.espnfcasi...-gunners-title.
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Basically, if you know that there is (are) shortcoming(s) on your players in whichever positions and there is no one in the rank (incl the youth academy) to step up. Then you just have to pay the price and buy if you want to challenge for the title. To rebuild almost certainly means giving up the title fight.
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What happened to the Fox is a fairy tale that happen (not even) once every 50 years.
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Money may be the root of all evisl, but if you have them and don't spend it wisely is even the greater evil - not for the owners / shareholders obviously.
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Even Carragher told Klopp to strengthen the team.
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There is a good article on Soccernet, but directed at Ah Seng, on how the football scene and transfer market has changed since the influx of TV money.
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http://www.espnfcasi...-gunners-title.
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Basically, if you know that there is (are) shortcoming(s) on your players in whichever positions and there is no one in the rank (incl the youth academy) to step up. Then you just have to pay the price and buy if you want to challenge for the title. To rebuild almost certainly means giving up the title fight.
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What happened to the Fox is a fairy tale that happen (not even) once every 50 years.
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Money may be the root of all evisl, but if you have them and don't spend it wisely is even the greater evil - not for the owners / shareholders obviously.
Err at least for the past 20 years, the gunner went into Champion League even in those years they are not spending much..
Can Liverpool, Chelsea and Manu do that ?
Err at least for the past 20 years, the gunner went into Champion League even in those years they are not spending much..
Can Liverpool, Chelsea and Manu do that ?
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To be fair... I don't think even Arsenal can do this now also. Money is cheap and the field is just too strong.
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Teams have to spend and strengthen... but within reason. Some of the fees quoted are crazy.
To be fair... I don't think even Arsenal can do this now also. Money is cheap and the field is just too strong.
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Teams have to spend and strengthen... but within reason. Some of the fees quoted are crazy.
They just managed to do that last season�
Where is Chelsea and Manu?
Manu lost 100m and a manager by the way.
They just managed to do that last season�
Where is Chelsea and Manu?
Manu lost 100m and a manager by the way.
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if man u has fans that don't even dare to admit they are fans of man u...... nothing much to say....
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chelsea suffering from JM 3rd season syndrome
They just managed to do that last season�
Where is Chelsea and Manu?
Manu lost 100m and a manager by the way.
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Yes... but if you look at overall spend by Arsenal for the last 2+ years... you'll see it's net deficit.... they spent more buying than received on selling...�
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True though... the club has been more conservative in their spending without the big splash signings. That's how the gaffer likes to operate.�
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And also... he's not an idiot like LVG
[Manchester Evening News]
http://www.thesportr...dnesday-report/
According to the above report, Arsenal is getting their man soon at �25m plus �3m addons
Manchester United are interested in signing Southampton's Jose Fonte.
[Manchester Evening News]Fonte deserved to be in a Top Club for his performance in the Euros, good experience player.
Looks like the earlier report of Valencia wanting �50m is wide off the mark.
http://www.thesportr...dnesday-report/
According to the above report, Arsenal is getting their man soon at �25m plus �3m addons�
25m too little lar... �we should offer 50m......
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because 25m can't win us the title but if we pay 50m.... the title is ours!!!
25m too little lar... �we should offer 50m......
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because 25m can't win us the title but if we pay 50m.... the title is ours!!!
Haiz.....missing the point as usual just like your boss.....
Haiz.....missing the point as usual just like your boss.....
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Even West Brom is helping Wenger to make up his mind
Apparently Hart is getting near to the exit door after a heated argument with pep during training.
Regardless heated or not, he is heading out I think.
Everton waiting for Bravo to complete the switch.
Arsenal head count just reduced by 1
Frankly hor, who will submit resignation with Comic Sans font??
After Bravo, they are reportedly trying to sign Hernandez from Leverkusen
Man City are finishing the window strongly.
After Bravo, they are reportedly trying to sign Hernandez from Leverkusen
Man citeh have lost their soul unfortunately. Buying instant success
Hmm, you mean City or their neighbour?
Edited by Osprey23, 23 August 2016 - 10:04 PM.
Hmm, you mean City or their neighbour?
Man yo well. They r already self sustaining unlike citeh who depend on little history n oil monies
City.
Man yo well. They r already self sustaining unlike citeh who depend on little history n oil monies
True but Man Utd in the past 3 seasons basically is trying to buy instant success as well.
Just my observation, don't flame me
I recall Arsenal went into a period of austerity as they wanted to spend on their new bigger capacity stadium that will bring them higher revenue. Leaving Highbury was a tough pill to swallow then as most fans have connections with the old ground.
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10 years later today, it appears that the club is still unwilling to spend more competively in the market although the bigger Emirates should have given them more firepower. My personal view is the shareholders of Arsenal are the ones hogging the profits and dividends. Arsene may/could have gotten his share outside his managerial remuneration too. This arrangement is a win-win for everyone except the fans, who pay for ever higher season tickets and TV subscription without seeing their money spend on the recruits they like and being a perennial top 4. I would have understood their frustrations too.
Looks like Pako has made it clear. Unless Arsenal trigger his release clause at �50m, Mustafi is staying
Edited by Osprey23, 24 August 2016 - 08:46 AM.
True but Man Utd in the past 3 seasons basically is trying to buy instant success as well.
Just my observation, don't flame meoic, MANU buying success when buying players... hmmm
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When pools buy players and change almost the entire team, just short of changing the toilet auntie, season after season is called rebuilding.... hmmm�
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Just my observation, don't flame me�
I recall Arsenal went into a period of austerity as they wanted to spend on their new bigger capacity stadium that will bring them higher revenue. Leaving Highbury was a tough pill to swallow then as most fans have connections with the old ground.
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10 years later today, it appears that the club is still unwilling to spend more competively in the market although the bigger Emirates should have given them more firepower. My personal view is the shareholders of Arsenal are the ones hogging the profits and dividends. Arsene may/could have gotten his share outside his managerial remuneration too. This arrangement is a win-win for everyone except the fans, who pay for ever higher season tickets and TV subscription without seeing their money spend on the recruits they like and being a perennial top 4. I would have understood their frustrations too.
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Wenger rejected a pay increase... but take his share outside his manager pay? Might as well take both
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I think besides the rich guys like man u, man c and chelsea.... we have been competitive.... so unless we have commercial revenue like man u or sugar daddy like man c and chelsea.... there is only so much Arsenal can do...
All along this thread is Man Utd and Pool fans trading barbs, in addition to the usual transfer updates that O23 provides. Now Arsenal dowan spend money/no money spend/ngiao ji ngiao lan, also tio target.
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Football. Bloodee Hell.
All along this thread is Man Utd and Pool fans trading barbs, in addition to the usual transfer updates that O23 provides. Now Arsenal dowan spend money/no money spend/ngiao ji ngiao lan, also tio target.
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Football. Bloodee Hell.
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At least don't have too many plastic ManC fans crowing about their "success"
Wow, finally got someone on the same wavelength as me! That's what I've been saying all this while ie how did Pool, United, Arsenal etc became good? Cos they got success earlier likely cos they either came first, got more money earlier or combination of both. Now City, Chelsea n whoever using money n called plastic etc. Come on, don't begrudge new money cos u reaped the benefits of old money, cheers!
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Not just one. So many agree with you. All fans want success. Only disagreement is the philosophy of how.
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At the end of the season... there can only be one winner. Whether club spends 200m or 2m. If the club/manager/players have the heart and wherewithal... they can do it.
i rather Arsene Wenger uses that 50m go and buy 30 16-year-old potential kids
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then hope in 2/3 years time, got at least 1 turn into Messi or Ronaldo, and 3-5 become Rooney
Never like the Glazers, but admire them for their biz acumen. Who would use their own money to start up if the bank loans are available to you? Of course, the risks were there and could affect their biz in the State if MU deal backfired badly. They know their biz, maybe not football and left it to SAF to sail through the stormy years. Except for the 1st few years when interest payment were at its highest, they were not shy and supported the managers with fund to compete in transfer markets.
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They, like successful bizmen, know that you need to spend money to make money.
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Despite with higher net debts than many of its top rivals, MU, back by recent years bumper sponsorship deals and the new TV money, beat every club incl RM into submission in transfer market.
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While the detractors had field days on the Pogba deal, no one mentioned on the free transfer Ibra.
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While one "specialist" club is re-building after 12 years, and another trying to find its way after a 1/4 of CENTURY and hundreds of millions on dozens of players, they can proudly proclaim to be purists.
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MU cannot wait after just 3 years in wilderness. So instead of more money going as directors' fees to Glazer, they can spend every penny on the players for all MU fan could care.
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After all, most of these money come from merchandise and sponsorship as the fans do not pay the highest tickets for their dreams.
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So let the money hoarders and the lesser teams rejoice, we have the noisy neighbor and maybe the Chelski to take care of,
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i know but the fact is they did spend but maybe not on the scale of man u because they cannot afford to....
to be honest, even madrid and barca cannot spend like man u...
Ya, seems like their spending power curbed. Real stepping aside on Pogba's deal is a good indicator.
Barcelona will have to relies on their next batch of stars from academy. Their core group now are all aging together.
Man Utd is a monster in their commercial tie up. In term of fan base, maybe only Liverpool can match but even that is dwelling. If during Klopp's time Pool can't start winning again, future will b quite bleak in terms of overseas fan base. To have a commercial machinery running, global fan base is key.
Edited by Osprey23, 24 August 2016 - 10:44 AM.
Pako:"Mustafi will not be allowed to leave Valencia this summer"
Looks like Pako has made it clear. Unless Arsenal trigger his release clause at �50m, Mustafi is staying�
I always like Pako.
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Not just one. So many agree with you. All fans want success. Only disagreement is the philosophy of how.
At the end of the season... there can only be one winner. Whether club spends 200m or 2m. If the club/manager/players have the heart and wherewithal... they can do it.
Well it sure doesn't seem like many agree with me here but no worries as we all Hv our opinion. BTW, My point on Arsenal is to spend in proportion of their earnings, not at the level of United, City n Chelsea. It's my opinion they are not doing this but as u said, diff clubs Hv diff philosophies so I shall not be posting anymore on this as I've riled up quite a few people here which was nvr the intention.
Like Weez911 says, not my club so actually better still they dont spend isn't it? N still got people say I geh geh happy at Arsenal's woes but ironical isn't it, if I'm happy why post their non spending? Cheers n peace to all here n let's enjoy the football!!
Ya, seems like their spending power curbed. Real stepping aside on Pogba's deal is a good indicator.
Barcelona will have to relies on their next batch of stars from academy. Their core group now are all aging together.
Man Utd is a monster in their commercial tie up. In term of fan base, maybe only Liverpool can match but even that is dwelling. If during Klopp's time Pool can't start winning again, future will b quite bleak in terms of overseas fan base. To have a commercial machinery running, global fan base is key.�
Liverpool can match fan base currently but revenue i think man u outstrip all of us.�
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I wonder if there is no FFP, will man c, chelsea, barca, RM and PSG be able to fight with man u financially
Well it sure doesn't seem like many agree with me here but no worries as we all Hv our opinion. BTW, My point on Arsenal is to spend in proportion of their earnings, not at the level of United, City n Chelsea. It's my opinion they are not doing this but as u said, diff clubs Hv diff philosophies so I shall not be posting anymore on this as I've riled up quite a few people here which was nvr the intention.
Like Weez911 says, not my club so actually better still they dont spend isn't it? N still got people say I geh geh happy at Arsenal's woes but ironical isn't it, if I'm happy why post their non spending? Cheers n peace to all here n let's enjoy the football!!�
your proportion and arsenal proportion is different.....�
Ya! I say you geh geh!
Never like the Glazers, but admire them for their biz acumen. Who would use their own money to start up if the bank loans are available to you? Of course, the risks were there and could affect their biz in the State if MU deal backfired badly. They know their biz, maybe not football and left it to SAF to sail through the stormy years. Except for the 1st few years when interest payment were at its highest, they were not shy and supported the managers with fund to compete in transfer markets.
They, like successful bizmen, know that you need to spend money to make money.
Despite with higher net debts than many of its top rivals, MU, back by recent years bumper sponsorship deals and the new TV money, beat every club incl RM into submission in transfer market.
While the detractors had field days on the Pogba deal, no one mentioned on the free transfer Ibra.
While one "specialist" club is re-building after 12 years, and another trying to find its way after a 1/4 of CENTURY and hundreds of millions on dozens of players, they can proudly proclaim to be purists.
MU cannot wait after just 3 years in wilderness. So instead of more money going as directors' fees to Glazer, they can spend every penny on the players for all MU fan could care.
After all, most of these money come from merchandise and sponsorship as the fans do not pay the highest tickets for their dreams.
So let the money hoarders and the lesser teams rejoice, we have the noisy neighbor and maybe the Chelski to take care of,
Agree.
Different clubs just have to operate differently base on financial muscles. You guys got big muscles so can just buy whoever you fancy at whatever price.
People like us will just have to work around it and thus, taking a much tougher route to achieve success.
No right or wrong as I always said. With money, the path to glory is smoother. Without money, you just have to work harder for it.
I love all the hypocrisy here.
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I see nothing wrong with buying success.
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Liverpool hold many record buys in their time
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Its ok when my club buys expensive players
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you are buying success.
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And when a club like Arsenal cannot afford or
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won't buy players you all keep laughing and
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i rather Arsene Wenger uses that 50m go and buy 30 16-year-old potential kids
then hope in 2/3 years time, got at least 1 turn into Messi or Ronaldo, and 3-5 become Rooney
Buying 30 youngsters is all well n good but but how many will actually come good? Ironically, city n Chelsea Hv one of the best youth academies cos they willing to spend there but which player came good from there? Maybe Iheanacho n Loftus Cheek possibly but not sure yet. We all impatient naturally so buying finished product is preferred but obviously not guaranteed.
Best I think is a mixture of say 18 first team standard players n 5-6 youth ones in the squad to see how they fare n give them exposure but easier said than done cos sometimes certain positions need filling n there could be lop sided of players in a particular position.
I love all the hypocrisy here.
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Liverpool hold many record buys in their time
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Kenny Dalglish 440k
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Craig Johnston 570k
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John Barnes 920k
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Peter Beardsley 1.9m
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Its ok when my club buys expensive players
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when your club is buying expensive players
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you are buying success.
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And when a club like Arsenal cannot afford or
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won't buy players you all keep laughing and
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making fun of them. Why don't anyone say
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they don't want to buy success?
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David Jack from Bolton for 10,000 pounds
that's y i have said. it's good to b rich. but somehow whenever i say that to fans of certain clubs that their favourite club is buying titles, they get offended. there's nothing wrong. the world now is in such a way that u need money to succeed. of cos there will b clubs who dont read the script n spoil the party of the rich. but that is "once in 50yrs" occurrence.
What the point of buying in a Super wonder kid and sell him off at a Super value price during the peak time of the player ?
You need to keep that Super star in your team to win title and attract more wonder kid !!
Look at CR7, Manu should not sell him at all.
I know the player wanted to go RM but if Manu is determined to overtake RM in any sort of competition, they should make use of CR7 to attract more stars and win title.
On the contrary , Barca definitely done well to make sure Messi stay with them . They make use of Ugly Ron to nature Messi and now making Messi happy enough to groom the next batch of youth.
I can't see the gunner doing that .its not that they wanna sell la. but they hv to. arsenal need the money at that time, thats y we see a lot of their star players are sold. n also they can counteroffer by increasing the players' pay. but now, i tink they do not hv to sell if they want. we will surely see arsenal buy expensive players at least once a window.
[L'Equipe]
Southampton have bid �15m for Sofiane Boufal
Premier League side Southampton have bid �15m for Lille attacker Sofiane Boufal, according to France Football.
Watford already had an offer rejected worth a similar amount earlier on during the window.
Lille want at least �20m plus bonuses in order to part with the player.
Southampton could come back with an improved offer in the coming days.
Spurs supposedly interested too but never bid.
His free kicks already worth the price tag
With no potential suitor in sight, no sure where James Pearce gets his optimism from.
Very good explanation on the cost involved in signing a player.
https://www.theguard...ow-market-myths
Mark Huges wants to take Sakho on loan
BILD report that Stoke City have bid �20 million for Borussia Dortmund's Christian Pulisic.
Stoke is aiming to finish the window with a bang too
Surprised that Spurs let him go. Good player in my opinion and offer back up option to Walker.
Mark Huges wants to take Sakho on loan
if this happens, klopp will need to do some explaining. cos everyone knows the reason of giving him play time to regain his fitness or watever is nonsense. he needs to disclose wat went on at the us tour that had sakho sent home.�
On the contrary , Barca definitely done well to make sure Messi stay with them . They make use of Ugly Ron to nature Messi and now making Messi happy enough to groom the next batch of youth.
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Balotelli won't be at Liverpool come 1st Sep
With no potential suitor in sight, no sure where James Pearce gets his optimism from.
- Mario Balotelli could end his Liverpool nightmare by signing for Swiss Super League side FC Sion.
From THE SUN.
even back in italy no 1 want him, sad man
, wat happen to this guy. i still remember him winning the title for man c
if this happens, klopp will need to do some explaining. cos everyone knows the reason of giving him play time to regain his fitness or watever is nonsense. he needs to disclose wat went on at the us tour that had sakho sent home.
I rate Sakho and believe he is a captain material.
However, even if Klopp rates his ability as well, he needs to cut him down to size of he grows his head too big.
I believe Klopp is team builder. He will not allow anyone to disrupt his effort to gel a team. This loan move is more for Sakho to sort out his head imo. He either take this positively and work his way back or he will be sold. The message to him is clear.
Transfer Spending so far:
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MC� :� � 165,580,000.00
MU� :� � 157,250,000.00
LFC :� �� 67,920,000.00
Che :� �� 63,580,000.00
Ars : � �� 44,200,000.00
LC :��� �� 40,380,000.00
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(source : mirror)
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As it stands, MU would have the bigger chance of winning the title as only on 3 occasions did the biggest spenders win the EPL title (Chelsea twice-under JM and MU once)
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In the 4 past seasons that MC topped the spending, they finished no higher than 3rd. Let History repeat itself
Edited by Ngseeming, 25 August 2016 - 10:32 AM.
Transfer Spending so far:
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MC� :� � 165,580,000.00
MU� :� � 157,250,000.00
LFC :� �� 67,920,000.00
Che :� �� 63,580,000.00
Ars : � �� 44,200,000.00
LC :��� �� 40,380,000.00
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(source : mirror)
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As it stand, MU would have the bigger chance of winning the title as only on 3 occasions did the biggest spenders won the EPL title (Chelsea twice and MU once)
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In the 4 past seasons that MC topped the spending, they finished no higher than 3rd. Let History repeat itself
but u forgot they won the charity shield.
how many time did the winner of charity shield went on to win the title.
but u forgot they won the charity shield.
how many time did the winner of charity shield went on to win the title.
you are right, not many, only MANU has done it...
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